Author Topic: [GB] Filco tenkeyless custom ATmega32u4 controller - All gone, that's it folks. (Read 253751 times)

Kalmarauder · « **Reply #300 on:** Sun, 14 October 2012, 21:31:29 »

I would like one of these, but I have no soldering experience and I would need guidance in programming it.

WhiteFireDragon · « **Reply #301 on:** Mon, 15 October 2012, 06:12:16 »

They come soldered, unless you request for one unsoldered. All you have to do is pluck the stock filco controller off and plug this one in, so soldering required.

fruktstund · « **Reply #302 on:** Tue, 16 October 2012, 07:42:48 »

nsfw, porn:

\o/

Now I'll just have to program this beat, but that'll have to wait until tonight, probably.

metalliqaz · « **Reply #303 on:** Tue, 16 October 2012, 07:45:03 »

Might I ask, how did you get it first? I was under the impression bpiphany was going to work down the list from the top...

bpiphany · « **Reply #304 on:** Tue, 16 October 2012, 07:49:02 »

Quote from: metalliqaz on Tue, 16 October 2012, 07:45:03

Might I ask, how did you get it first? I was under the impression bpiphany was going to work down the list from the top...

I cherry picked a few persons.. Living close or I knew since earlier, or just high profile members. I have started working my way down the list now. It'll be a couple of days of sending inquiries to a number of people each day. I wouldn't be able to handle all at the same time..

fruktstund: Did you try closing the case? I noticed my controller is a little bit higher than the stock one. It fit just perfectly in my case. Hopefully the Filco tolerances are tight.. Otherwise there is room to sand away some PCB material to make it fit. There is nothing important that close to the edges =)

SmallFry · « **Reply #305 on:** Tue, 16 October 2012, 08:14:17 »

Quote from: fruktstund on Tue, 16 October 2012, 07:42:48

nsfw, porn:
Show Image

\o/

Now I'll just have to program this beat, but that'll have to wait until tonight, probably.

metalliqaz · « **Reply #306 on:** Tue, 16 October 2012, 08:29:37 »

"high profile" lol
I am the 99%

jdcarpe · « **Reply #307 on:** Tue, 16 October 2012, 09:49:49 »

If you notice, they are both in Sweden.

boost · « **Reply #308 on:** Tue, 16 October 2012, 10:19:16 »

Can't wait to get this.

phetto · « **Reply #309 on:** Tue, 16 October 2012, 10:34:04 »

Im getting mine in a few days! woohoo

fruktstund · « **Reply #310 on:** Tue, 16 October 2012, 10:37:18 »

Probably the first time ever living in Sweden is good when it comes to keyboard stuff. :>

Quote from: bpiphany on Tue, 16 October 2012, 07:49:02

fruktstund: Did you try closing the case? I noticed my controller is a little bit higher than the stock one. It fit just perfectly in my case. Hopefully the Filco tolerances are tight.. Otherwise there is room to sand away some PCB material to make it fit. There is nothing important that close to the edges =)

Yeah, I managed to close it. I had some problems closing the case, but I think that was more because of my inexperience when it comes to closing Filco cases. First time actually!
It didn't even occur to me that the controller might be too high, but it certainly didn't feel like it was the controller that was making me have problems with closing the case. Maybe it was though, I'll notice next time I open and close the case.

Now I just need to know how to program this thing, and I'm pretty sure I saw you writing somewhere about it, but I can't find it. I guess I can find the source on GitHub at least?

harrison · « **Reply #311 on:** Tue, 16 October 2012, 12:56:47 »

So stoked to receive my DIY pack. I just finished cleaning off my work bench yesterday!

damorgue · « **Reply #312 on:** Tue, 16 October 2012, 12:59:45 »

YAY!
Quickie question: Two of the legs of the controller is supposed to not be used, right? I don't see any pads where you would solder them to anyway, so I guess they are supposed to be that way. Just wanted to make sure.

bpiphany · « **Reply #313 on:** Tue, 16 October 2012, 13:40:36 »

Quote from: damorgue on Tue, 16 October 2012, 12:59:45

YAY!
Quickie question: Two of the legs of the controller is supposed to not be used, right? I don't see any pads where you would solder them to anyway, so I guess they are supposed to be that way. Just wanted to make sure.

Yes, they are left open. I will upload the schematics later on. I think a wiki page will be a good idea.

Quote from: fruktstund on Tue, 16 October 2012, 10:37:18

Probably the first time ever living in Sweden is good when it comes to keyboard stuff. :>

Quote from: bpiphany on Tue, 16 October 2012, 07:49:02
fruktstund: Did you try closing the case? I noticed my controller is a little bit higher than the stock one. It fit just perfectly in my case. Hopefully the Filco tolerances are tight.. Otherwise there is room to sand away some PCB material to make it fit. There is nothing important that close to the edges =)
Yeah, I managed to close it. I had some problems closing the case, but I think that was more because of my inexperience when it comes to closing Filco cases. First time actually!
It didn't even occur to me that the controller might be too high, but it certainly didn't feel like it was the controller that was making me have problems with closing the case. Maybe it was though, I'll notice next time I open and close the case.

Now I just need to know how to program this thing, and I'm pretty sure I saw you writing somewhere about it, but I can't find it. I guess I can find the source on GitHub at least?

The controller won't be too high in the sense of hitting the top of the case, but as in too wide or whatever direction I am talking about.. On my case top it fit very snugly into the compartment of the case top. The between-'Up'-and-'End'-direction.

I will have to upload the code to a repository. It is very crude at the moment.. My solution to simplifying away the is_modifier array that was used in the original Phantom code limited the number of keys in the matrix to 128, and the Filco is 8x18=144 =P So I did a quick and dirty revert back to the old code, just to have the thing working on shipment =D Pressing both shift keys at the same time resets into the bootloader. As does passing a magnet across the controller, where that little glass tube is. I have no idea how strong the magnet needs to be, but I've been using not too extreme ones.

There are also other AVR keyboard firmwares out there, that should be easy to modify.

bpiphany · « **Reply #314 on:** Tue, 16 October 2012, 14:43:19 »

Here is the current code at github for now https://github.com/BathroomEpiphanies/HID-Liberation-Device

Now I need to do some other stuff...

Edit: And also the very start of the guide for the DIY kit... http://deskthority.net/wiki/HID_Liberation_Device_-_DIY_Instructions

xavierblak · « **Reply #315 on:** Tue, 16 October 2012, 15:18:48 »

I'm interested in one.

I'm also interested in an eventual version for the Quickfire Rapid. I see it was mentioned a few times in this thread. Has anyone done any work on reverse engineering the pinout yet? I could take a look at that. Is there an existing documentation on the filco pinout to compare it too?

bpiphany · « **Reply #316 on:** Tue, 16 October 2012, 16:00:47 »

Reverse engineering the matrix is the easiest part. Only takes a Teensy++, a bunch of wires, and some patience.. After that, and with the appropriate firmware, you just punch away on the keys and let the engineering do itself =D

See this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34392.msg640733#msg640733

Sifo · « **Reply #317 on:** Tue, 16 October 2012, 17:07:09 »

That's awesome. Can't wait to get mine.

TheProfosist · « **Reply #318 on:** Tue, 16 October 2012, 17:25:08 »

Cant wait to get mine as well, ill sure up my layout as I wait and possibly get some matching caps on order from WASD.

xavierblak · « **Reply #319 on:** Wed, 17 October 2012, 09:39:06 »

Quote from: bpiphany on Tue, 16 October 2012, 16:00:47

Reverse engineering the matrix is the easiest part. Only takes a Teensy++, a bunch of wires, and some patience.. After that, and with the appropriate firmware, you just punch away on the keys and let the engineering do itself =D

That's true. Anything else on the headers? I assume vcc, gnd, usb D-/D+, outputs for status leds, plus all the rows and columns for the keys. Anything else I'm missing? Are you planning on releasing a schematic for this?

Also if you are still taking down people interested in buying one the filco board please add me to the list.

The_Beast · « **Reply #320 on:** Wed, 17 October 2012, 09:39:51 »

In for 2 pre-mades and 1 DIY ^___^

bpiphany · « **Reply #321 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 02:36:31 »

Quote from: xavierblak on Wed, 17 October 2012, 09:39:06

Quote from: bpiphany on Tue, 16 October 2012, 16:00:47
Reverse engineering the matrix is the easiest part. Only takes a Teensy++, a bunch of wires, and some patience.. After that, and with the appropriate firmware, you just punch away on the keys and let the engineering do itself =D

That's true. Anything else on the headers? I assume vcc, gnd, usb D-/D+, outputs for status leds, plus all the rows and columns for the keys. Anything else I'm missing? Are you planning on releasing a schematic for this?

Also if you are still taking down people interested in buying one the filco board please add me to the list.

I uploaded the schematic here http://deskthority.net/wiki/HID_Liberation_Device_-_DIY_Instructions at the very end. It's not quite correct. It used to be two separate files for the matrix and the controller parts. I just merged them, so there is some overlap, and I am not exactly sure which columns 1-18 A-R that should be paired up. But that is the general idea.

And yes, rows, columns, LEDs, and USB connectors should be all there is to it.

Cindori · « **Reply #322 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 03:19:51 »

Quote from: fruktstund on Tue, 16 October 2012, 07:42:48

nsfw, porn:
Show Image

\o/

Now I'll just have to program this beat, but that'll have to wait until tonight, probably.

White backplate?

Is there a filco that comes with that or did you color it yourself?

DrugER · « **Reply #323 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 05:27:48 »

i'm very interested !!!

Glissant · « **Reply #324 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 08:21:26 »

I got mine today. Nothing much to report. No issues closing the Filco.

longweight · « **Reply #325 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 08:26:48 »

Does it come pre-programmed?

bpiphany · « **Reply #326 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 08:33:01 »

Quote from: longweight on Thu, 18 October 2012, 08:26:48

Does it come pre-programmed?

It should.. And if it doesn't I missed testing it as well.. But I think I got my workflow pretty clean =)

And general information: I'm working my way down the interest list. Sending out a couple of PMs every day or so. Meaning if you don't answer reasonably soon, other people will skip you in line. No worry though, everyone who has spoken up so far will have theirs eventually. I still haven't got the big heap of header pins from ebay. It's been quite some time now, and it can be ordering from China... Other components is not a limiting factor (except the PCBs of course, 150 of them).

longweight · « **Reply #327 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 08:34:48 »

Quote from: bpiphany on Thu, 18 October 2012, 08:33:01

Quote from: longweight on Thu, 18 October 2012, 08:26:48
Does it come pre-programmed?

It should.. And if it doesn't I missed testing it as well.. But I think I got my workflow pretty clean =)

And general information: I'm working my way down the interest list. Sending out a couple of PMs every day or so. Meaning if you don't answer reasonably soon, other people will skip you in line. No worry though, everyone who has spoken up so far will have theirs eventually. I still haven't got the big heap of header pins from ebay. It's been quite some time now, and it can be ordering from China... Other components is not a limiting factor (except the PCBs of course, 150 of them).

Excellent

Has mine been shipped?

bpiphany · « **Reply #328 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 08:42:22 »

The firmware doesn't do much of course, just mimics the Filco, with an additional double-shift-kill-switch...

Hope that doesn't spill anything too private.. Date stamped Tuesday =)

longweight · « **Reply #329 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 08:45:41 »

Quote from: bpiphany on Thu, 18 October 2012, 08:42:22

The firmware doesn't do much of course, just mimics the Filco, with an additional double-shift-kill-switch...

(Attachment Link)
Hope that doesn't spill anything too private.. Date stamped Tuesday =)

I am so excited!

Glissant · « **Reply #330 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 08:48:39 »

You should be, longweight. This is full of epic win!

bpiphany, you are excellent at what you do, sir. I am extremely happy with the controllers, and the packaging was very secure too. Perfect

.

4LI4Z · « **Reply #331 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 09:02:04 »

Can't wait for it. I'm so excited.

fruktstund · « **Reply #332 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 09:09:43 »

Quote from: bpiphany on Tue, 16 October 2012, 14:43:19

Here is the current code at github for now https://github.com/BathroomEpiphanies/HID-Liberation-Device

Now I need to do some other stuff...

Edit: And also the very start of the guide for the DIY kit... http://deskthority.net/wiki/HID_Liberation_Device_-_DIY_Instructions

Woohoo, I'll check it out!

Quote from: Cindori on Thu, 18 October 2012, 03:19:51

White backplate?

Is there a filco that comes with that or did you color it yourself?

It's from a pink Filco, so yes, it comes in white. Maybe the white Filcos also do, but I have no idea really. <: Seems kind of reasonable though.

xavierblak · « **Reply #333 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 09:17:08 »

Quote from: bpiphany on Thu, 18 October 2012, 02:36:31

I uploaded the schematic here http://deskthority.net/wiki/HID_Liberation_Device_-_DIY_Instructions at the very end. It's not quite correct. It used to be two separate files for the matrix and the controller parts. I just merged them, so there is some overlap, and I am not exactly sure which columns 1-18 A-R that should be paired up. But that is the general idea.

And yes, rows, columns, LEDs, and USB connectors should be all there is to it.

Very cool. Thanks!

tjweir · « **Reply #334 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 09:20:48 »

Did I miss the part where I was supposed to pay?

alaricljs · « **Reply #335 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 09:23:14 »

No, you didn't.

bpiphany · « **Reply #336 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 09:25:23 »

Don't worry, you aren't too far down the line

tjweir · « **Reply #337 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 09:31:54 »

Phew, I was asleep at the switch and missed the Phantom deadline.
I didn't want that to happen again.

Cheers.

bisl · « **Reply #338 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 11:04:29 »

Between this and Ergodox, I think I probably check geekhack around three dozen times per day. Once every 10-15 minutes? Sounds about right.

Sifo · « **Reply #339 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 12:53:48 »

Ahhhhh I can't wait to get mine!!!

esoomenona · « **Reply #340 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 14:33:43 »

Sifo · « **Reply #341 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 14:34:19 »

Bid for one in Dan's auction

esoomenona · « **Reply #342 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 20:36:29 »

alaricljs · « **Reply #343 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 21:17:10 »

Pokemon

esoomenona · « **Reply #344 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 23:39:45 »

phetto · « **Reply #345 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 08:31:13 »

What can this be?

.... the piece itself! ty bpiphany

Glissant · « **Reply #346 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 09:44:50 »

Nice pictures, phetto! Now install that baby!

phetto · « **Reply #347 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 14:15:42 »

^ will most certainly do it soon, im smashed with stuff to do, friends, family etc need help with thit and that..

Sifo · « **Reply #348 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 17:17:18 »

I can help you install it... on my board

Glissant · « **Reply #349 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 17:20:50 »

I already posted this in some other thread.
One of my pre-assembled and one DIY kit for you to envy me over

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Excellent work.

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Author Topic: [GB] Filco tenkeyless custom ATmega32u4 controller - All gone, that's it folks. (Read 253751 times)