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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #50 on: Thu, 25 September 2014, 06:36:06 »
This is pretty much what I'd love to have...


If I think about it twice, they could keep it as it is, just give me a fully programmable controller and split spacebar! :)

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 25 September 2014, 12:31:46 »
PBT spacebar, separate plate and case. Mx sliders with topre compatibility. And doesn't cost a kidney

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 25 September 2014, 17:57:36 »
Silenced Novatouch stems would be nice, along with some feet that actually grip. Metal case would of course be great, but the price would go up massively.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 25 September 2014, 19:59:54 »
The biggest draw of the HHKB seems to be the switches.   A gon with topre switches and blue tooth seem like a better keyboard to me although I imagine price would hit the 700 dollar mark.
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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 26 September 2014, 12:53:59 »
The only change I can think of is that i would like a smaller space with a function key on either side for multiple layers like the planck idea.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 26 September 2014, 13:09:05 »
I like the HHKB Pro 2 like it is. I particularly like the 60% form factor and highly efficient layout.

However, lately I have been using a RF 87u 55g, and I prefer the sound and feel of the RF to the HHKB. Therefore, if the HHKB Pro 3 would keep the form factor and layout or the Pro 2, here are some things that might make it even better:

+ 55g Topre switches.

+ Reduced cost of Type-S.

+ Address the reported "whistling" problem with Type-S.

+ Steel plate.

+ PBT spacebar.

+ Possibly more keycap choices, but keep the Topre stems. I don't need or want mx stems.

+ Possibly a Bluetooth option.


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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 26 September 2014, 13:13:37 »
Programmable controller.
Better feet.
Blue Tooth.

You guys that want a steel plate are crazy.
The case mounted switches are the whole reason the HHKB feels special.

There really should be group buy for plastic plates for other keyboards.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 26 September 2014, 20:40:24 »
+ Steel plate.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm almost certain that the reason people like the HHKB's feeling (or at least I do) is because it has case-mounted, rather than plate-mounted, switches. It'd also make it significantly heavier, pretty much as heavy as an FC660C, and then they would be essentially the same thing except with different layouts.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #58 on: Sun, 28 September 2014, 10:28:46 »
Not much, the thing is pretty much perfect as is.

- More power to the USB ports

- 30g version alongside to the 45g

- A distributor in the EU.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #59 on: Sun, 28 September 2014, 10:30:13 »
I would like  -$100 on the retail price  :p
                                      
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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #60 on: Sun, 28 September 2014, 10:45:45 »
Affordable price would be a bonus, but who am I kidding?  This is Thorpe.  This is HHKB.

I bet the price will increase. And the HHKB III will be non-programmable again, because they are confident to produce the bestest and most elite keymapping ever. Ridiculous.  :(

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #61 on: Sun, 28 September 2014, 15:25:30 »
I bet the price will increase. And the HHKB III will be non-programmable again, because they are confident to produce the bestest and most elite keymapping ever. Ridiculous.  :(







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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #62 on: Sun, 28 September 2014, 15:40:25 »
If the current torpre Coolermaster keyboard is both good and successful maybe Coolmaster can build one us a fully programmable 60%.   As much as they are selling to the gamer market they really are starting to build some fine key boards.   Are you listening???
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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #63 on: Mon, 29 September 2014, 10:14:12 »
55g, silent and with MX compatible sliders.
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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #64 on: Mon, 29 September 2014, 16:52:27 »
God damnit... can we add "[Wish List]" to the title or something? I think this is the 4th time I've clicked on this threading thinking "HOLY **** THE HHKB 3?!?!!"

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #65 on: Mon, 29 September 2014, 18:56:17 »
I bet fujitsu has no plans for making an hhkb pro iii this year :(
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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #66 on: Tue, 30 September 2014, 02:53:22 »
why no love for 35g?

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #67 on: Tue, 30 September 2014, 03:20:46 »
God damnit... can we add "[Wish List]" to the title or something? I think this is the 4th time I've clicked on this threading thinking "HOLY **** THE HHKB 3?!?!!"
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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #68 on: Thu, 23 April 2015, 09:53:18 »
MX sliders are a terrible idea IMO

They make the sound unbearably bad and loud.

I agree alu case 55g, 45g, or 35g, would be amazing also revised keycaps, all come with the silent purple sliders without the sound dampening

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #69 on: Thu, 23 April 2015, 10:51:13 »
MX sliders are a terrible idea IMO

They make the sound unbearably bad and loud.

I agree alu case 55g, 45g, or 35g, would be amazing also revised keycaps, all come with the silent purple sliders without the sound dampening
I think that's just a novatouch thing. I haven't heard of noise increases from people who transplanted mx sliders into their HHKB.

The sound dampening is the best part. Silenced topre 4 lyfe. None of that noisy upstroke :(

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #70 on: Thu, 23 April 2015, 12:30:00 »
MX sliders are a terrible idea IMO

They make the sound unbearably bad and loud.

I agree alu case 55g, 45g, or 35g, would be amazing also revised keycaps, all come with the silent purple sliders without the sound dampening
I think that's just a novatouch thing. I haven't heard of noise increases from people who transplanted mx sliders into their HHKB.

The sound dampening is the best part. Silenced topre 4 lyfe. None of that noisy upstroke :(


Hollow cases made of brittle materials make the sound worst.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #71 on: Thu, 23 April 2015, 13:13:22 »
It'd be nice if they started selling Topre domes of varying weights separately from the keyboards themselves so that customers aren't forced to scavenge boards to change the weighting of their switches. 20g and 80g versions might be fun.
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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #72 on: Thu, 23 April 2015, 14:48:46 »
It'd be nice if they started selling Topre domes of varying weights separately from the keyboards themselves so that customers aren't forced to scavenge boards to change the weighting of their switches. 20g and 80g versions might be fun.
20g? That's Way too light. I can't imagine anybody typing on 20g.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #73 on: Thu, 23 April 2015, 16:03:01 »

It'd be nice if they started selling Topre domes of varying weights separately from the keyboards themselves so that customers aren't forced to scavenge boards to change the weighting of their switches. 20g and 80g versions might be fun.
20g? That's Way too light. I can't imagine anybody typing on 20g.

30g hhkb is super light as is

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #74 on: Thu, 23 April 2015, 16:46:16 »
I keep seeing this thread pop up and I click on it because I keep thinking there was a hhkb3 announcement. But, alas, it is not yet to be. :(

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #75 on: Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:08:57 »
I really don't see the need for a HHKBIII. Everything people are asking for is just, to me, not necessary.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #76 on: Tue, 28 April 2015, 09:08:15 »
MX sliders are a terrible idea IMO

They make the sound unbearably bad and loud.

I agree alu case 55g, 45g, or 35g, would be amazing also revised keycaps, all come with the silent purple sliders without the sound dampening
I think that's just a novatouch thing. I haven't heard of noise increases from people who transplanted mx sliders into their HHKB.

The sound dampening is the best part. Silenced topre 4 lyfe. None of that noisy upstroke :(


Maybe it idk. I would just like TOPRE TO MAKE MORE KEYCAPS ER MER GERHD... That alone would sell like crazy and would make more people open to topre but... nooo they cancel them ugh just give them back to us or just make the hhkb 3 in differnt colors
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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #77 on: Tue, 28 April 2015, 17:55:48 »
As others have said an aluminum case and more power to the USB ports would be my ideal modifications.  The size and layout are just absolutely perfect.
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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #78 on: Tue, 28 April 2015, 18:41:25 »
Novatouch stems.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #79 on: Tue, 28 April 2015, 18:52:16 »
i want rubber on the feet

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #80 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 07:07:54 »
Novatouch stems.


+1 to this: Being able to use MX caps would be awesome.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #81 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 18:22:25 »
Novatouch stems.


+1 to this: Being able to use MX caps would be awesome.
Or just topre keycaps to expand and be common place, like MX.


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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #82 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 19:56:27 »
Never gonna happen.  That's why I got the Novatouch.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #83 on: Fri, 01 May 2015, 03:07:21 »
I'd love to have the F-keys and full programmability. The lack of F-keys on 60% can be a real drag in IDEs, which makes for unhappy hacking.

Programmability mitigates this somewhat, but it's still better to have the keys.

If no F-keys I'll end up w a number pad in which case I'd still want the usb hub bc it helps reduce cablling.

A trackpoint option would be fantastic.

Tiny spacebar or split. No need for giant block spacebar. The JIS layout fills me with envy and inspiration.

Finally a switchable wireless option so it can toggle between multiple computer would be great. Like work/home or workstation/laptop/phone ...

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #84 on: Sat, 02 May 2015, 13:28:27 »
If the case was a bit more solid/heavier would be cool
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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #85 on: Sat, 02 May 2015, 21:21:27 »
Hhkb3 is hhkb2 in a red case.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #86 on: Sun, 21 May 2017, 20:06:43 »
Still waiting for HHKB Pro 3

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #87 on: Sun, 21 May 2017, 20:28:42 »
I think my list has already been said but here goes:
1. Uniform 55g option.
2. Metal plate option.
3. PBT spacebar.
4. MX compatible sliders and/or more Topre keycap options.
5. Better feet.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #88 on: Sun, 21 May 2017, 21:21:22 »
I think my list has already been said but here goes:
1. Uniform 55g option.
2. Metal plate option.
3. PBT spacebar.
4. MX compatible sliders and/or more Topre keycap options.
5. Better feet.

Yeah, I agree with all of those! Would make it a lot easier on us. That way we do not have to part out 3 different boards haha

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #89 on: Sun, 21 May 2017, 21:52:49 »
Split Fn/Spacebar.  Option for hi-pro caps. Aluminum case with weight. PBT space bar. USB C.

As as coder, I honestly don't understand how the Dr concluded that cording with the right pinky was best. My right pinky is easily my most used digit already. Cording with the left thumb allows my pinky to stay on my syntax, where it belongs.
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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #90 on: Mon, 22 May 2017, 01:16:41 »
I think my list has already been said but here goes:
2. Metal plate option.
4. MX compatible sliders and/or more Topre keycap options.

2. A metal plate would make HHKBs feel like a RF and thus destroy the classic HHKB feel.
4. Cherry profile is just plain wrong on an HHKB. I have no strong feelings about SA or DSA but I think PBT OEM Topre is part of the HHKB appeal.

Split Fn/Spacebar.  Option for hi-pro caps. Aluminum case with weight. PBT space bar. USB C.

Yes, yes, no, yes, yes

Hi-pro caps are fine but the board would need to be changed to allow for the hi-pro upper housing, just using hi-pro caps increases wobble because the caps lack support. Making an Aluminum HHKB will change the entire feeling of the board and basically make it an RF unless it was alu with a plastic plate.
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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #91 on: Mon, 22 May 2017, 07:14:51 »
Surprised at the amount of people who want to change the few things that make this keyboard unique.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #92 on: Mon, 22 May 2017, 07:37:18 »
Surprised at the amount of people who want to change the few things that make this keyboard unique.

I think a lot of people put up with the weirdness/drawbacks of HHKB just to get the great feel of the case mounted switches. I'd love PFU to make an ANSI  TKL, and if they wanted to call it HHKB III, no prob.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #93 on: Mon, 22 May 2017, 07:50:42 »
A standard bottom row.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #95 on: Mon, 22 May 2017, 08:19:08 »
To me, empty space on 60% makes no sense. Apart from that, while gaming, my pinkie needs that bottom key. I hope someday, someone will make a "regular" 60% topre. I just hope it will be a good one, like HHKB.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #96 on: Mon, 22 May 2017, 08:57:50 »
2. A metal plate would make HHKBs feel like a RF and thus destroy the classic HHKB feel.
Indeed. The feel and sound of the HHKB is from the plastic integrated plate.

4. Cherry profile is just plain wrong on an HHKB. I have no strong feelings about SA or DSA but I think PBT OEM Topre is part of the HHKB appeal.
For what it's worth, the keycap family on the HHKB is Stepsculpture 2. This is as close as it gets to Cherry.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #97 on: Mon, 22 May 2017, 11:12:51 »
I'm so used to mine now (having 2 at work and one at home) that I don't have many complaints.  I do wish it was fully programmable now, that little fn key under return could be used for something; even just having that just show up in the registry so I could software bind it would be a huge +.

Another feature I REALLY wish the HHKB had is powered USB.  It seems to provide enough for a ducky pocket 10key but not enough for the basic steelseries rival mouse.  This is actually a pretty big drawback for me.  If you don't use the built in usb it does wonders for wire management.

The feet suck and it slides, easy enough fix but for the price it shouldn't have any issues with build quality.

I just don't like how light the HHKB is.  I like how the realforce boads weigh as much as you'd expect a really good MK to.  The HHKB should be made of some sort of metal.  That would be great.

Finally it needs hybrid keystems.  I like the HHKB caps but I'd really like to switch them out without waiting 100 years and spending extra money on third party topre/cherry stems.  The ability to use more custome caps would be very veeeeery welcome.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #98 on: Mon, 22 May 2017, 11:52:29 »
Surprised at the amount of people who want to change the few things that make this keyboard unique.

I think a lot of people put up with the weirdness/drawbacks of HHKB just to get the great feel of the case mounted switches.

The popularity of HHKB layout MX builds would say otherwise.

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Re: HHKB Pro III.
« Reply #99 on: Mon, 22 May 2017, 12:09:07 »
The unix layout is why I personally love it. The switches are just an added plus. A good chunk of this thread is just people indirectly wanting a Topre Pok3r.