Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)

[domoaligato]

brown switch tenkeyless keycool 87's
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&switch_id=2&size=Tenkeyless&man=ALL&key_plastic=ALL&backlit=ALL&interface=ALL&cord_length=ALL&usb_kro=ALL&ps2_kro=ALL&x=33&y=10&in_stock=on

for white led keycaps post a WTB thread in the classifieds for white ducky shine keycap set.
they are sold out on mechanicalkeyboards.com and a few other places I checked.

a youtube video showing what that would look like...

[Melvang]

brown switch tenkeyless keycool 87's
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&switch_id=2&size=Tenkeyless&man=ALL&key_plastic=ALL&backlit=ALL&interface=ALL&cord_length=ALL&usb_kro=ALL&ps2_kro=ALL&x=33&y=10&in_stock=on

for white led keycaps post a WTB thread in the classifieds for white ducky shine keycap set.
they are sold out on mechanicalkeyboards.com and a few other places I checked.

a youtube video showing what that would look like...

Problem with posting in the Classifieds section is he doesn't have the required number of posts to start a thread there.

[klaxhu]

@domoaligato - that is not a bad idea. i will have a look at that option!
@melvang indeed - but it's not too bad. by the time i am familiarized with what i will need after probably spending some time here i think i will have the necessary no of posts.

[Lastpilot]

What is this switch?

[BlueBär]

Can you get some more light on the inside of that black ring? I don't really see how it's mounted. Are you sure that it's mechanical and not a rubberdome with slider?

[Lastpilot]

Never mind it must be rubber dome. Feels like rubber some I have just never seen a slider before. XD

[CPTBadAss]

I also thought it was just a slider over rubberdome but I'm not sure.

[MJ45]

I just finished building my Phantom and looking for a case. I know that Filco and PLU will fit. Will a CM QFR case work?

[BlueBär]

I just finished building my Phantom and looking for a case. I know that Filco and PLU will fit. Will a CM QFR case work?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg753747#msg753747

[kenmai9]

Does anyone know if I can put a Poker X/Poker pcb in my Poker 2 case? I want to be able to mod my Poker to clears.

[lcs]

I would like to know which 60 or 75% keyboards have a white case and if any of them have white, clears or greens.

Also, if there is someone that could mod a regular one for me!s

[SpAmRaY]

Does anyone know if I can put a Poker X/Poker pcb in my Poker 2 case? I want to be able to mod my Poker to clears.

I think they are the same case, but do you not have a case for your poker x?

I would like to know which 60 or 75% keyboards have a white case and if any of them have white, clears or greens.

Also, if there is someone that could mod a regular one for me!s

The first half, I don't think so, possibly a leopold that is somewhat rare, someone else probably knows better

The second half there is a directory of people who mod boards here

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45886.0

[Narcix]

Does the poker 2 come with any leds installed?

[SpAmRaY]

Does the poker 2 come with any leds installed?

yes

capslock and 2 on spacebar possibly others can't remember and cant find pic i took

[Narcix]

Does the poker 2 come with any leds installed?

yes

capslock and 2 on spacebar possibly others can't remember and cant find pic i took

kewl! what color?
also, to install leds on the poker 2, you just have to remove the solder from the led holes and solder 'em in right?

[SpAmRaY]

Does the poker 2 come with any leds installed?

yes

capslock and 2 on spacebar possibly others can't remember and cant find pic i took

kewl! what color?
also, to install leds on the poker 2, you just have to remove the solder from the led holes and solder 'em in right?

white-ish, I haven't actually plugged mine in yet

yes, more info here http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35152.msg976734#msg976734

[Narcix]

Does the poker 2 come with any leds installed?

yes

capslock and 2 on spacebar possibly others can't remember and cant find pic i took

kewl! what color?
also, to install leds on the poker 2, you just have to remove the solder from the led holes and solder 'em in right?

white-ish, I haven't actually plugged mine in yet

yes, more info here http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35152.msg976734#msg976734

thanks! 

[BlueBär]

I would like to know which 60 or 75% keyboards have a white case and if any of them have white, clears or greens.

There was a KBT Race in white but that had issues with the paint chipping off. The Noppoo Choc Mini and the Keycool 84 are available in white, too. I don't think there's a 60% in white. None of those come with the switches you want though I think.

capslock and 2 on spacebar possibly others can't remember and cant find pic i took

Left win has also one.

[lcs]

I would like to know which 60 or 75% keyboards have a white case and if any of them have white, clears or greens.

There was a KBT Race in white but that had issues with the paint chipping off. The Noppoo Choc Mini and the Keycool 84 are available in white, too. I don't think there's a 60% in white. None of those come with the switches you want though I think.

Yes, I saw it. I want heavier switches though I think I'll buy one of those (or maybe a Filco white TKL) and change the switches. Would that be expensive?

[Narcix]

If i installed leds on a poker 2, would they be always turned on?

[SpAmRaY]

I would like to know which 60 or 75% keyboards have a white case and if any of them have white, clears or greens.

There was a KBT Race in white but that had issues with the paint chipping off. The Noppoo Choc Mini and the Keycool 84 are available in white, too. I don't think there's a 60% in white. None of those come with the switches you want though I think.

capslock and 2 on spacebar possibly others can't remember and cant find pic i took

Left win has also one.

Yes I remember that now, because I saw it and was thinking, 'what the heck?'

[BlueBär]

Yes, I saw it. I want heavier switches though I think I'll buy one of those (or maybe a Filco white TKL) and change the switches. Would that be expensive?

You can get some different springs from the classifieds or Originative and make some ghetto greens for example. Or you can buy some switches which will be more expensive though (price for 100 springs should be under 10$, Originative sells 100 80g springs for 8$, a new switch costs around 0.50-0.60$ per piece). Maybe check 7bit's MX group buy on deskthority.

If i installed leds on a poker 2, would they be always turned on?

I think you can turn them off if you want to but that is more of a guess. Since it will be the same PCB as the backlit version I am pretty sure they included that feature. Probably dimming as well.
Edit: Just looked it up in the manual, you can dim the backlight and turn it completly off as well.

[lcs]

You can get some different springs from the classifieds or Originative and make some ghetto greens for example. Or you can buy some switches which will be more expensive though (price for 100 springs should be under 10$, Originative sells 100 80g springs for 8$, a new switch costs around 0.50-0.60$ per piece). Maybe check 7bit's MX group buy on deskthority.

Humm, more help them please

If I bought the switches from MX, I wouldn't know if I need the pins or not. The options are the filco and a noppoo choc. Also, is it easy to change them? Thanks for the replies so far guys!

[BlueBär]

If I bought the switches from MX, I wouldn't know if I need the pins or not. The options are the filco and a noppoo choc. Also, is it easy to change them? Thanks for the replies so far guys!

Both the Noppoo and the Filco are plate mounted boards, so you don't need the pins. However, if you misordered or something, you can simply cut the pins off, it doesn't really make a difference.
Changing the switches or the springs is a bit of work as you will have to desolder the switches on plate mounted boards. This will take some time, you will also have to resolder them when reassembling the keyboard.
If you just buy different springs you will also have to open each switch, but with The_Beast's switch tools for example (currently available for pre-order, I would really recommend them if you want to get into keyboard modding) it's really easy and just takes a few seconds for each switch, opening - swapping the spring - closing takes about a minute for each switch, depending on how fast you are.
You won't have to open the the switches if you simply replace them with new switches of course, so that would a bit faster.

[Photekq]

Anyone know roughly how much a 456GT weighs?

[lcs]

Both the Noppoo and the Filco are plate mounted boards, so you don't need the pins. However, if you misordered or something, you can simply cut the pins off, it doesn't really make a difference.
Changing the switches or the springs is a bit of work as you will have to desolder the switches on plate mounted boards. This will take some time, you will also have to resolder them when reassembling the keyboard.
If you just buy different springs you will also have to open each switch, but with The_Beast's switch tools for example (currently available for pre-order, I would really recommend them if you want to get into keyboard modding) it's really easy and just takes a few seconds for each switch, opening - swapping the spring - closing takes about a minute for each switch, depending on how fast you are.
You won't have to open the the switches if you simply replace them with new switches of course, so that would a bit faster.

Thanks! I think I'll try swapping the springs them! Seems easier for starting I'll buy some switches to practice first

Thanks again for the replies!

[BlueBär]

Thanks! I think I'll try swapping the springs them! Seems easier for starting I'll buy some switches to practice first

Thanks again for the replies!

Could be that you misunderstood me there: For swapping the switches themselves you will have to desolder them all, and resolder again. When swapping only the springs you will have to additionally open the swiches, so really just changing switches is easier, but more expensive as well.

[lcs]

Could be that you misunderstood me there: For swapping the switches themselves you will have to desolder them all, and resolder again. When swapping only the springs you will have to additionally open the swiches, so really just changing switches is easier, but more expensive as well.

Ok, I get it. Indeed I misunderstood.

So, to desolder and resolder, that'd be too hard for a total idiot on these things?

[BlueBär]

So, to desolder and resolder, that'd be too hard for a total idiot on these things?

Not too hard, but you need some soldering equipment of course and enough time and patience. To get an idea of how much work it is, heres a video from WhiteFireDragon swapping the switches of a Filco to Ergo Clears:

If you don't want to do that, here you can find some people who will do it for you: Professional Services Directory.

[lcs]

Not too hard, but you need some soldering equipment of course and enough time and patience. To get an idea of how much work it is, heres a video from WhiteFireDragon swapping the switches of a Filco to Ergo Clears:

If you don't want to do that, here you can find some people who will do it for you: Professional Services Directory.

I think I'll try it myself! There is tj's thread to help as well.

Thanks so much BlueBär!

[BlueBär]

Glad to help! I think tomorrrow I'm gonna write a beginner's modding guide, but now I gotta go to sleep

[domoaligato]

Anyone know roughly how much a 456GT weighs?

I asked alaricljs and he says about 7lb 2oz without the cable

[Narcix]

I think i read somewhere that soon every qfr will have the blak case. is that true?

[CPTBadAss]

I think i read somewhere that soon every qfr will have the blak case. is that true?

The regular QFRs should be unbranded and black now.

The QFR Stealths already have the black cases. I think they have matching plate colors as well. So red switches have red plates, blue switches have blue plates, etc.

[Xenderwind]

I think i read somewhere that soon every qfr will have the blak case. is that true?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46341.msg977953#msg977953

[phx]

so the brown is 45 cN and the clear is 55, is there a 50 spring?
also, is there a lighter spring than the 45?

edit: sticker sheet, worth?

[CPTBadAss]

1) is there a 50 spring?
2) is there a lighter spring than the 45?
3) sticker sheet, worth?

1) I think so? I'm not sure. There might be a custom Korean one.
2) I've seen a 35g mod but I'm not sure how he did it. I didn't look at the article I saw.
3) Read the OP. This isn't the Price Check Thread. There are vendors who sell stickers so check those out for an idea.

[phx]

1) is there a 50 spring?
2) is there a lighter spring than the 45?
3) sticker sheet, worth?

1) I think so? I'm not sure. There might be a custom Korean one.
2) I've seen a 35g mod but I'm not sure how he did it. I didn't look at the article I saw.
3) Read the OP. This isn't the Price Check Thread. There are vendors who sell stickers so check those out for an idea.

3. meant to say "is it worth getting?" Does it make a noticeable difference?

[CPTBadAss]

Answer is in the OP as well.

[phx]

Answer is in the OP as well.

great, thanks!
(didn't notice the OP has a list of FAQs now)

[BlueBär]

so the brown is 45 cN and the clear is 55, is there a 50 spring?
also, is there a lighter spring than the 45?

If you take the Korean measurements (by bottom out force), the brown springs bottom out around 60g (correct me if I'm wrong here!). You can get 62g, 65g, 67g or 80g springs pretty easily (Originative for example), 80g should be close to the original black springs. Lighter springs sometimes show up in the classifieds, i.e. 45g or 55g springs. Be aware that with a less strong spring, the tactility of a switch will increase (can make it sticky feeling though), but with a stronger spring it will decrease.

[CPTBadAss]

67g is probably closest to MX blacks. 80g is definitely heavier than Blacks based on my own research.

[BlueBär]

I don't have any 80g 67g springs to compare, this was just compiled from waht I read on the forum, so I guess you're right. Kind of a simple question: I made this beginner guide to modding, should I rather put it in the keyboard section or in the making stuff together section?

[CPTBadAss]

Making Stuff Together

[SpAmRaY]

Is there anything currently any mechanicals available  to purchase smaller than 60%?

I know there are a few 'in the works' pre-group buy/planning stuffs.

[WhiteFireDragon]

Not commercially available.

[dndlmx]

How much smaller can you get? Link to said designs?

HHKB could be considered less than "60%" as it's missing some corner buttons.   

[CPTBadAss]

How much smaller can you get? Link to said designs?

HHKB could be considered less than "60%" as it's missing some corner buttons.   

Welcome to the world of 40% boards.

jdcarpe, he actually built his. I've seen prototypes.

Hypermicro from DT and 7bit.

kmiller8's 40% design thread

[dndlmx]

[CPTBadAss]

No memes in this thread please.