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geekhack Marketplace => Interest Checks => Topic started by: Fredington on Mon, 26 October 2020, 21:33:55

Title: [IC] SA 8010 - Launching TOMORROW, March 5 - April 3, all prices added
Post by: Fredington on Mon, 26 October 2020, 21:33:55
Hi all,

Welcome to the NEW interest check for SA 8010. With a new house and renovations that have taken up his free time, FRANCO has passed this project on to me to run, so let's go!

(https://i.imgur.com/2JvCaSq.png)

I've reworked the kits to be more GB-friendly, trying to stay faithful to FRANCO's original vision for the set while taking into account recent trends with SA kitting/sales, lessons learned from running SA SAIL, and some requests from the old IC thread. Since I didn't have easy access to the form responses, I've created this new IC to gather everything in one place.

Interest Check Form (https://forms.gle/zzUm1BmRoeifV6PA7)

Without further ado...



GB Date: March 1-31, 2021



Vendors & Pricing

(https://i.imgur.com/DCFlqQB.png)



Kits

Alphas

I decided to break up the original base kit into alphas and modifier kits for more flexibility with overall kit breakdowns. F and J are homing keys by default.

(https://i.imgur.com/pVQd8uw.png)

TKL

Modifiers for TKL and 60% support. Extra white keys give the option for an all-white HHKB bottom row, like the original 8010 keyboard.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZTg1Dny.png)

Specialties

Extension kit for 65% and 660 layouts, as well as Mac bottom row swaps and the elusive 2u Shift.

(https://i.imgur.com/CavxHk2.png)

Numpad

I think this one needs no explanation. Like F and J in Alphas, 5 is homing by default.

(https://i.imgur.com/DSMayyj.png)

ISO

Enough keys for physical ISO support, with option for either an alpha or a modifier for the extra 1u key next to Left/Upper Shift.

(https://i.imgur.com/GytwDas.png)

Ortho & 40s

This kit has ortho support in combination with the Alphas and 40s support in combination with the Alphas and TKL. Includes a bottom row 0 key for 4x12 ortho boards.

(https://i.imgur.com/fRdp4XB.png)

Split Spacebars

Small spacebars and Alice support.

(https://i.imgur.com/RePnqod.png)

PROG

Keys for lefthand macro columns.

(https://i.imgur.com/789kR1C.png)



Deskmat

(https://i.imgur.com/XgNA8p8.jpg)



Renders

Iron180 by Smith+Rune

(https://i.imgur.com/r9wvJAx.png)

Bauer by Dixie Mech

(https://i.imgur.com/dDnq5r8.png)

Saturn-60 by Birgus Latro

(https://i.imgur.com/8qyppnR.png)

Atlas by nasp

(https://i.imgur.com/rXVWwVo.png)



Acknowledgements

FRANCO for bringing this project to me
Abec13 for the awesome renders
konstantin for the kit advice



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Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: Fredington on Mon, 26 October 2020, 21:34:50
3/4/21
- Added pricing

2/27/21
- Removed Modern kit

2/10/21
- Added deskmat

1/29/21
- Added Oblotzky Industries as EU vendor
- Removed 00 from Numpad

11/12/20
- Added SwitchKeys as Oceania vendor
- Removed 1u META from Specialties, as including it would [unnecessarily] give you three of these keys if you bought TKL or Ortho/40s
- Added R3 UP to TKL, giving the option for the arrow cluster to be all the same profile


11/9/20
- Moved the MC key from TKL to Alphas to provide more flexibility with R1 layouts across all form factors and child kits, allowing for the removal of PROG from Ortho/40s kit
- Removed 1.25u and 1.5u bottom row 0/ keys from Ortho/40s kit (these have an equivalent in the updated Modern kit)
- Updated the Modern kit to support 4x12 ortho and staggered 40s

11/3/20
- Moved 7u spacebar and 1u blank white keys back into TKL kit (blanks are for HHKB, so it makes more sense for them to stay in this kit)
- Removed non-homing 5 key from Numpad kit, so 5 will be homing by default (like F and J in Alphas)
- Added more options for bottom row 0 key in Ortho/40s kit
- Revised Modern kit to shift integrated numpad up by one row. The benefit of this configuration is that 789 will be in their proper places, thus helping to orient yourself on the number row. Please note, 4x12 ortho and 40s is not supported by this kit. Thanks to konstantin for the idea.

11/1/20
- Moved 7u spacebar from TKL to Alphas
- Moved 1u blanks from TKL to Specialties
- Removed 1.25u META key from Specialties
- Changed 2u Shift legend from Lower Shift to UPPER SHIFT
- Added bottom row 0/ key to Ortho & 40s kit
- Added the Modern kit for an alternate layout of the integrated numpad
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: yoot on Mon, 26 October 2020, 21:35:09
Hmmm
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: Agilr on Mon, 26 October 2020, 21:35:17
Standing by
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: goddream on Mon, 26 October 2020, 21:36:11
locked and loaded
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: Pwner on Mon, 26 October 2020, 21:40:21
very cool
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: Whiplash_XXIII on Mon, 26 October 2020, 21:46:45
Oooo
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: would? on Mon, 26 October 2020, 21:47:07
standing by....
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: Zeelobby on Mon, 26 October 2020, 22:03:59
So is it loading or what?
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: Fredington on Mon, 26 October 2020, 22:13:19
locked and loaded

So is it loading or what?

standing by....

Standing by

Hmmm

Sorry for the delay. I had a brainfart and pressed SAVE instead of PREVIEW when I only had the first kit ready.

Speaking of brainfarts, can anyone give me the proper formatting text for inserting a banner image? I cannot for the life of me remember how to do it.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: bisoromi on Mon, 26 October 2020, 22:34:17
will you consider 112344
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: horchata771 on Mon, 26 October 2020, 23:21:37
Nice!
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: finalarcadia on Mon, 26 October 2020, 23:31:22
Cool colorway but sadly SA is a no for me :( if it was DCS on the other hand...
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: $W4GK!NG on Tue, 27 October 2020, 02:33:40
will you consider 112344
+1 on this plz make it 112344


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Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: Willtato on Tue, 27 October 2020, 10:43:01
Loving this design a lot.  Surprisingly much.  I might for the first time have to order multiple!
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: psxndc on Tue, 27 October 2020, 11:22:25
I don't want any more SA sets. I don't want any more SA sets. I don't want any more SA sets. I don't want any more SA sets.

Ahhhh fine. What's one more SA set?
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: liebach on Tue, 27 October 2020, 13:08:32
Please fix the IC form so I can use it without a Google account (because I don't have one, and very much don't want to have one).

Also, please, please add colevrak, or at least dvorak, kit. Alternatively an alpha kit with the logic symbols only, not even the '.', ',' and '/' keys, to add complete freedom to those who like interesting layouts. Would fit really well with the general weirdness of the set, which I really like.  ;D

UPDATE 2020-10-29: Upon image searching "decision data 8010" and further reflection I think it is quite perfect as is. :-)  I'd still like to be able to use the IC form though.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: darthcapn on Tue, 27 October 2020, 13:42:54
Yes please

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Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: nasp on Tue, 27 October 2020, 14:02:46
Thanks for adding double 3u bars. I'm in  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: psxndc on Tue, 27 October 2020, 14:10:51
Also, please, please add colevrak, or at least dvorak, kit. Alternatively an alpha kit with the logic symbols only, not even the '.', ',' and '/' keys, to add complete freedom to those who like interesting layouts.

While I'm all for a Colevrak kit, it was discussed in the last IC that this would be prohibitively expensive due to keeping the dual legends correct while changing around the letters.

I don't think a mono-legend symbols kit was discussed.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 28 October 2020, 11:30:43
Looks great!
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: Fredington on Thu, 29 October 2020, 11:29:39
will you consider 112344

Sorry, not a fan of bottom row R4.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: hottrout on Fri, 30 October 2020, 04:32:12
Still very interested in this set.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: d4vid4f on Fri, 30 October 2020, 12:53:32
Love this! Great work man!
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - New Version
Post by: Fredington on Sun, 01 November 2020, 20:22:36
Small update today, but brought back the Modern numpad kit from the first IC. Full details below and in the reserved post:

- Moved 7u spacebar from TKL to Alphas
- Moved 1u blanks from TKL to Specialties
- Removed 1.25u META key from Specialties
- Changed 2u Shift legend from Lower Shift to UPPER SHIFT
- Added bottom row 0/ key to Ortho & 40s kit
- Added the Modern kit for an alternate layout of the integrated numpad
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Updated Modern Kit
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 03 November 2020, 09:55:07
Another update, mainly revolving around the Modern kit, but a few other tweaks (and reversals) as well:

- Moved 7u spacebar and 1u blank white keys back into TKL kit (blanks are for HHKB, so it makes more sense for them to stay in this kit)
- Removed non-homing 5 key from Numpad kit, so 5 will be homing by default (like F and J in Alphas)
- Added more options for bottom row 0 key in Ortho/40s kit
- Revised Modern kit to shift integrated numpad up by one row. I was never really happy with the initial design of this kit, which is why I didn't post it originally. Bottom row 0 can look really awkward on certain layouts. The benefit of this configuration is that 789 will be in their proper places, thus helping to orient yourself on the number row. Please note, 4x12 ortho and 40s is not supported by this kit. Thanks to konstantin for the help on this kit.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Updated Modern Kit
Post by: kukkurovaca on Fri, 06 November 2020, 20:08:30
Oh noooooo. My interest in this set is specifically for use on a small ortho, because that's where the numpad is actually functionally most useful.

Could the modern numpad on the alpha rows be incorporated into the ortholinear set? Without it this set goes from extremely must buy to ehhhhhhhmaybe.

Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Updated Modern Kit
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 06 November 2020, 20:53:15
Oh noooooo. My interest in this set is specifically for use on a small ortho, because that's where the numpad is actually functionally most useful.

Could the modern numpad on the alpha rows be incorporated into the ortholinear set? Without it this set goes from extremely must buy to ehhhhhhhmaybe.

As a small ortho user, you would prefer the numpad to be in the standard, modern orientation, correct? I guess the good news with that approach is that no more than six new keys would need to be added to the ortho & 40s kit, as the 456 row would be able to be reused from the base alphas. I think Fredington already had a mockup for this.

If he decides to go that route, my suggestion would be to keep the extra keys in the modern numpad kit, and only put the bottom row 0 keys in the ortho kit (which is where they currently are). The reason for this is that there might be some non-40% users out there who like to have their modern-orientation numpad start on UIO instead of 789, so they would be able to make use of these keys as well.
Edit: Actually, doing it like this poses a different problem. So I'm not sure what the best approach would be here. So far, including it in the ortho & 40s kit like you suggested sounds viable, if a couple of unnecessary keys are cut.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Updated Modern Kit
Post by: WhitePlate on Sat, 07 November 2020, 12:00:11
Cant wait!
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Updated Modern Kit
Post by: Fredington on Mon, 09 November 2020, 14:58:50
Oh noooooo. My interest in this set is specifically for use on a small ortho, because that's where the numpad is actually functionally most useful.

Could the modern numpad on the alpha rows be incorporated into the ortholinear set? Without it this set goes from extremely must buy to ehhhhhhhmaybe.

As a small ortho user, you would prefer the numpad to be in the standard, modern orientation, correct? I guess the good news with that approach is that no more than six new keys would need to be added to the ortho & 40s kit, as the 456 row would be able to be reused from the base alphas. I think Fredington already had a mockup for this.

If he decides to go that route, my suggestion would be to keep the extra keys in the modern numpad kit, and only put the bottom row 0 keys in the ortho kit (which is where they currently are). The reason for this is that there might be some non-40% users out there who like to have their modern-orientation numpad start on UIO instead of 789, so they would be able to make use of these keys as well.
Edit: Actually, doing it like this poses a different problem. So I'm not sure what the best approach would be here. So far, including it in the ortho & 40s kit like you suggested sounds viable, if a couple of unnecessary keys are cut.

(https://i.imgur.com/I6W0oap.png)

Alright, I've added 4x12 ortho and staggered 40s support for the Modern kit, while removing 3 keys from Ortho/40s. See changelog for full details:

- Moved the MC key from TKL to Alphas to provide more flexibility with R1 layouts across all form factors and child kits, allowing for the removal of PROG from Ortho/40s kit
- Removed 1.25u and 1.5u bottom row 0/ keys from Ortho/40s kit (these have an equivalent in the updated Modern kit)
- Updated the Modern kit to support 4x12 ortho and staggered 40s

Also, vendors and a date: March 2021!

NA: Mechs & Co
CAN: ApexKeyboards
UK/EU: Proto[Typist]
SEA: Monokei
Oceania: TBD
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Vendors, GB Date, 40s support for Modern kit
Post by: Willtato on Mon, 09 November 2020, 17:10:35
How exciting

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Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Vendors, GB Date, 40s support for Modern kit
Post by: Top Right Logo on Mon, 09 November 2020, 18:12:45
Thanks for splitting the alphas!
Would it be possible to add a 1.75u shift to the 40's kit as well?
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Vendors, GB Date, 40s support for Modern kit
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 09 November 2020, 18:16:54
Thanks for splitting the alphas!
Would it be possible to add a 1.75u shift to the 40's kit as well?

Are you a Dimple user? There's already one 1.75u Shift in the TKL kit.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Vendors, GB Date, 40s support for Modern kit
Post by: Top Right Logo on Mon, 09 November 2020, 18:28:15
Are you a Dimple user? There's already one 1.75u Shift in the TKL kit.

Just wanted to see if I could get away with a 40's/Alphas for trashman boards.
I know you can't have it all so no pressure from me!
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Updated Modern Kit
Post by: raptorzoz on Tue, 10 November 2020, 02:02:32

Hi, I don't intend this to be disrespectful to either you nor jae, but how hard is it to grasp that prototypist is not an EU vendor? I see this on like every other group buy, and its so frustrating. The reason we have regional vendors is to avoid expensive shipping and individual customers avoiding to have to deal with customs. BOTH of which are not achieved with prototypist as a vendor. I could just as well order it from Australia, or the US with a slight increase in shipping costs. Stop using any UK based company as an EU vendor. Its not an EU vendor. Its a vendor with closest geographic proximity and nothing else. Please speak to one of the multitude other vendors in the EU: mykeyboard, Keygem, and oblotzky (who runs a ton of keycap gbs on his website) just to name a few.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Vendors, GB Date, 40s support for Modern kit
Post by: ullr on Tue, 10 November 2020, 06:39:39
I like that there's options for the keypad, such a great set

Looking forward to buying this one
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Vendors, GB Date, 40s support for Modern kit
Post by: Howgii on Tue, 10 November 2020, 07:49:44
I agree with raptor, having to pay another 30+ euros because of customs and tax declaration  is stupid. I’ll reconsider buying if this will be the case.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Vendors, GB Date, 40s support for Modern kit
Post by: BirgusLatro on Tue, 10 November 2020, 13:24:17
Of course I'm in  :D
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Vendors, GB Date, 40s support for Modern kit
Post by: darthcapn on Tue, 10 November 2020, 15:58:42
I was in earlier, but seeing BirgusLatro getting in, I am in twice!

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Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Updated Modern Kit
Post by: kukkurovaca on Wed, 11 November 2020, 19:31:58
Alright, I've added 4x12 ortho and staggered 40s support for the Modern kit, while removing 3 keys from Ortho/40s. See changelog for full details:

- Moved the MC key from TKL to Alphas to provide more flexibility with R1 layouts across all form factors and child kits, allowing for the removal of PROG from Ortho/40s kit
- Removed 1.25u and 1.5u bottom row 0/ keys from Ortho/40s kit (these have an equivalent in the updated Modern kit)
- Updated the Modern kit to support 4x12 ortho and staggered 40s

woooo!!
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Vendors, GB Date, 40s support for Modern kit
Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 12 November 2020, 06:12:23

Hi, I don't intend this to be disrespectful to either you nor jae, but how hard is it to grasp that prototypist is not an EU vendor? I see this on like every other group buy, and its so frustrating. The reason we have regional vendors is to avoid expensive shipping and individual customers avoiding to have to deal with customs. BOTH of which are not achieved with prototypist as a vendor. I could just as well order it from Australia, or the US with a slight increase in shipping costs. Stop using any UK based company as an EU vendor. Its not an EU vendor. Its a vendor with closest geographic proximity and nothing else. Please speak to one of the multitude other vendors in the EU: mykeyboard, Keygem, and oblotzky (who runs a ton of keycap gbs on his website) just to name a few.


I agree with raptor, having to pay another 30+ euros because of customs and tax declaration  is stupid. I’ll reconsider buying if this will be the case.


Crossposting from the Sagittarius thread:

Ok guys so the distinction between "EU" and "Europe" went right past me once I was oblivious to the situation, and I'm sorry for that.

Here is Jae's response to the matter:


In this instance EU was meant to represent Europe the continent rather than European Union - a small but very important distinction.

Any sale made in 2020 but shipped in 2021 will have VAT collected at the time of sale (and paid to the respective governments as per VAT rules/procedures that currently exist), and will have the VAT invoice in the box clearly showing the sale date, and be also marked as VAT Paid at the time of shipping on the shipping slip.

As such, even if no trade deal is agreed (which is still to be determined) VAT should not be charged again. On the off chance it is, you will be able to reclaim that with the original purchase order as proof following the rules and process in your country.

Of course for non-European Union countries (whether in Europe the continent or worldwide), sales will still be the same as they are on the store today - with no VAT included.

Sales in 2021 depend on what trade deal (or not) is agreed, and could range from VAT being collected as it always has been, or EU customers no longer paying VAT on UK stores, and potentially paying it on import. There is a wide range of outcomes here that its hard to speculate on.

The same also applies in reverse to UK customers where sales are with EU vendors, which is worth keeping in mind.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Vendors, GB Date, 40s support for Modern kit
Post by: Willtato on Thu, 12 November 2020, 06:53:55

Hi, I don't intend this to be disrespectful to either you nor jae, but how hard is it to grasp that prototypist is not an EU vendor? I see this on like every other group buy, and its so frustrating. The reason we have regional vendors is to avoid expensive shipping and individual customers avoiding to have to deal with customs. BOTH of which are not achieved with prototypist as a vendor. I could just as well order it from Australia, or the US with a slight increase in shipping costs. Stop using any UK based company as an EU vendor. Its not an EU vendor. Its a vendor with closest geographic proximity and nothing else. Please speak to one of the multitude other vendors in the EU: mykeyboard, Keygem, and oblotzky (who runs a ton of keycap gbs on his website) just to name a few.


I agree with raptor, having to pay another 30+ euros because of customs and tax declaration  is stupid. I’ll reconsider buying if this will be the case.


Crossposting from the Sagittarius thread:

Ok guys so the distinction between "EU" and "Europe" went right past me once I was oblivious to the situation, and I'm sorry for that.

Here is Jae's response to the matter:


In this instance EU was meant to represent Europe the continent rather than European Union - a small but very important distinction.

Any sale made in 2020 but shipped in 2021 will have VAT collected at the time of sale (and paid to the respective governments as per VAT rules/procedures that currently exist), and will have the VAT invoice in the box clearly showing the sale date, and be also marked as VAT Paid at the time of shipping on the shipping slip.

As such, even if no trade deal is agreed (which is still to be determined) VAT should not be charged again. On the off chance it is, you will be able to reclaim that with the original purchase order as proof following the rules and process in your country.

Of course for non-European Union countries (whether in Europe the continent or worldwide), sales will still be the same as they are on the store today - with no VAT included.

Sales in 2021 depend on what trade deal (or not) is agreed, and could range from VAT being collected as it always has been, or EU customers no longer paying VAT on UK stores, and potentially paying it on import. There is a wide range of outcomes here that its hard to speculate on.

The same also applies in reverse to UK customers where sales are with EU vendors, which is worth keeping in mind.
Problem is that this GB date is March 2021. 

This no extra tax thing if purchased in 2020 is quite nice though.  I hope it works the other way around too!

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Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Vendors, GB Date, 40s support for Modern kit
Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 12 November 2020, 07:13:40
Problem is that this GB date is March 2021. 

This no extra tax thing if purchased in 2020 is quite nice though.  I hope it works the other way around too!
That's a fair point - what the situation will look like by March is unknown. But to be clear, there is no situation where you both pay VAT at checkout and pay customs. It will be either or.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - EU vendor will be revisted in the new year
Post by: Fredington on Thu, 12 November 2020, 08:21:37
Some small updates today:

- Added SwitchKeys as Oceania vendor
- Removed 1u META from Specialties, as including it would [unnecessarily] give you three of these keys in combination with TKL
- Added R3 UP to TKL, giving the option for the arrow cluster to be all the same profile

Also, regarding a separate EU vendor, the intention was to revisit the issue in the new year when the transition period is over and the laws will [hopefully] be more clear. Rest assured, that I will make the decision that will best benefit buyers. Since the situation is currently unclear however, it would be premature and unfair to Proto[Typist] to bring another vendor on board.

Thanks.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - EU vendor will be revisted in the new year
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 12 November 2020, 08:24:59
Also, regarding a separate EU vendor, the intention was to revisit the issue in the new year when the transition period is over and the laws will [hopefully] be more clear. Rest assured, that I will make the decision that will best benefit buyers. Since the situation is currently unclear however, it would be premature and unfair to Proto[Typist] to bring another vendor on board.

I can get behind this approach. Thanks for being considerate of both buyers and vendors.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - EU vendor will be revisted in the new year
Post by: Howgii on Thu, 12 November 2020, 08:27:51
Some small updates today:

- Added SwitchKeys as Oceania vendor
- Removed 1u META from Specialties, as including it would [unnecessarily] give you three of these keys in combination with TKL
- Added R3 UP to TKL, giving the option for the arrow cluster to be all the same profile

Also, regarding a separate EU vendor, the intention was to revisit the issue in the new year when the transition period is over and the laws will [hopefully] be more clear. Rest assured, that I will make the decision that will best benefit buyers. Since the situation is currently unclear however, it would be premature and unfair to Proto[Typist] to bring another vendor on board.

Thanks.
Great, after eskimojo cited Jae I feel better about the situation. But it still wouldn’t be a surprise if customs screwed me over.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - EU vendor will be revisted in the new year
Post by: splodeybaloney on Tue, 17 November 2020, 07:30:47
Even though I like the looks of this set I wasn't in for it originally, the delays sound unfortunate but for a group buy next March, I think I'm in. I had enough other stuff going on the last time I saw this come up but now things have died down and I've got a new board that needs a set of caps.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - EU vendor will be revisted in the new year
Post by: asisleep on Mon, 07 December 2020, 07:21:09
Looks amazing!
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - EU vendor will be revisted in the new year
Post by: ogp3 on Thu, 17 December 2020, 21:56:52
I've really fallen in love with this set, looking forward to the groupbuy!
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - EU vendor will be revisted in the new year
Post by: erich8to on Thu, 31 December 2020, 13:20:02
This is it  :p
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - EU vendor will be revisted in the new year
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sat, 02 January 2021, 19:01:30
Interest registered. Love the teal color so much.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - EU vendor will be revisted in the new year
Post by: voodoo6k on Sun, 03 January 2021, 14:51:40
This is my favourite keyset!

Do you think you could add a second white 1.25u R3 space in the split spacebar kit? Also maybe a R4 delete key in specialties... although not a deal-breaker.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - EU vendor will be revisted in the new year
Post by: asisleep on Tue, 05 January 2021, 06:05:50
Will you consider an EU-based vendor in these times?
I am very blind
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - EU vendor will be revisted in the new year
Post by: puddingfarmer on Fri, 15 January 2021, 15:03:43
Is it March yet?? This is going to be my endgame,* seriously.


*for at least 20 minutes
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - EU vendor added!
Post by: Fredington on Fri, 29 January 2021, 09:14:42
Hi all,

Long time no update, but now we can get ready for the GB in about a month from now. I'm pleased to welcome Oblotzky Industries as the EU vendor!

In terms of kits, they're pretty much finalized. I've removed the 00 from the Numpad, as I think exceedingly few people use this key.

I'm also thinking of bring back the SA SAIL deskmat in a couple new colors, so if you hate that idea, holler!
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - EU vendor added, deskmat added
Post by: Fredington on Wed, 10 February 2021, 08:50:51
Bringing back the SA SAIL deskmat in a new color to match the modifiers:

(https://i.imgur.com/XgNA8p8.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - EU vendor added, deskmat added
Post by: paperassgasket on Wed, 10 February 2021, 17:03:27
Bringing back the SA SAIL deskmat in a new color to match the modifiers:

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(https://i.imgur.com/XgNA8p8.jpg)

Nice. I missed out on Sail but I always liked the deskmat so I'm glad to see it make a comeback.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - EU vendor added, deskmat added
Post by: Rx003 on Fri, 19 February 2021, 06:02:44
Looks cool! Glwic and wish you all the best for this project! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - GB will run from March 1-31
Post by: Fredington on Mon, 22 February 2021, 11:57:24
GB dates have been set for March 1-31. See you in a week!
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - GB will run from March 1-31
Post by: Fredington on Sat, 27 February 2021, 22:01:39
Hi all,

Unfortunately, I have some bad news...after discussions with the vendors, we've decided to drop the Modern [integrated numpad] kit due to a combination of low interest and high cost. My apologies to those who requested this kit--I personally thought it allowed for some pretty cool variations.

Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - GB will run from March 1-31, added US pricing, dropped Modern kit
Post by: paperassgasket on Sat, 27 February 2021, 23:46:14
:(
The Modern numpad kit should have been the real numpad kit.
I was planning on picking up couple extras just to stick them on other SA sets. Sad.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - GB will run from March 1-31, added US pricing, dropped Modern kit
Post by: matthewdias on Sun, 28 February 2021, 01:16:36
pouring one out for the good numpad kit :(
Title: [IC] SA 8010 - GB will run from March 1-31, added US pricing, dropped Modern kit
Post by: consumer on Sun, 28 February 2021, 07:18:28
What?! Modern Numpad kit is the only reason why I was also buying the other kits. Was planning on buying several to fit in with other SA sets. Now there’s no reason for me to join the GB. Huge disappointment.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - GB will run from March 1-31, added US pricing, dropped Modern kit
Post by: Fredington on Sun, 28 February 2021, 07:42:55
pouring one out for the good numpad kit :(

:(
The Modern numpad kit should have been the real numpad kit.
I was planning on picking up couple extras just to stick them on other SA sets. Sad.

What?! Modern Numpad kit is the only reason why I was also buying the other kits. Was planning on buying several to fit in with other SA sets. Now there’s no reason for me to join the GB. Huge disappointment.

Well, it would have been a $45-50 kit and we felt that was a bit too much for a kit whose interest level was on par with the ISO kit.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - GB will run from March 1-31, added US pricing, dropped Modern kit
Post by: paperassgasket on Sun, 28 February 2021, 11:33:31
pouring one out for the good numpad kit :(

:(
The Modern numpad kit should have been the real numpad kit.
I was planning on picking up couple extras just to stick them on other SA sets. Sad.

What?! Modern Numpad kit is the only reason why I was also buying the other kits. Was planning on buying several to fit in with other SA sets. Now there’s no reason for me to join the GB. Huge disappointment.

Well, it would have been a $45 kit and we felt that was a bit too much for a kit whose interest level was on par with the ISO kit at $19.

$45 is pretty yikes, yeah.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - GB delayed until Friday, March 5
Post by: Fredington on Sun, 28 February 2021, 13:48:45
Hi all,

The GB will be delayed a few days to Friday, March 5 to allow the proxies more time to price the set. Unfortunately, there's been an increase in shipping costs from SP to a number of proxies that need to be adjusted for. I've taken down the US pricing for now as well, as it is also subject to change to be more in line with the other vendors so costs can be shared more equitably.

My sincerest apologies for the delay, as well as the change in pricing. Regardless of the increased shipping costs, it was my fault for posting prices before the other vendors had enough time to look over them.

Please stay tuned.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - GB will run from March 1-31, added US pricing, dropped Modern kit
Post by: kukkurovaca on Wed, 03 March 2021, 00:13:11
pouring one out for the good numpad kit :(

:(
The Modern numpad kit should have been the real numpad kit.
I was planning on picking up couple extras just to stick them on other SA sets. Sad.

What?! Modern Numpad kit is the only reason why I was also buying the other kits. Was planning on buying several to fit in with other SA sets. Now there’s no reason for me to join the GB. Huge disappointment.

Well, it would have been a $45-50 kit and we felt that was a bit too much for a kit whose interest level was on par with the ISO kit.

RIP, I would still have been in for it, but I understand that it might not have sold enough units.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - GB delayed until Friday, March 5
Post by: yukiburzm on Wed, 03 March 2021, 00:14:21
Excited :p
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Launching TOMORROW, March 5 - April 3, all prices added
Post by: Fredington on Thu, 04 March 2021, 22:16:25
After a bit of a delay, we are going live TOMORROW until April 3.

All pricing is below:

(https://i.imgur.com/DCFlqQB.png)
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Launching TOMORROW, March 5 - April 3, all prices added
Post by: jack.yijugu on Fri, 05 March 2021, 08:45:38
What is the specific color chart?
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Launching TOMORROW, March 5 - April 3, all prices added
Post by: Fredington on Fri, 05 March 2021, 08:56:54
What is the specific color chart?

We never posted it because FRANCO and I were going back and forth regarding the blue, but it's going to be a custom Pantone plus 2 stock colors.
Title: Re: [IC] SA 8010 - Launching TOMORROW, March 5 - April 3, all prices added
Post by: hottrout on Sat, 06 March 2021, 04:00:42
Can't wait to get this set in the future.