[IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]

[longweight]

Nah hashbaz is looking after it.

[rowdy]

The Cherry legends won't be happening for months, they haven't even started rechecking the donations let alone collecting cash so we will be in for a long wait.

Sorry for the silly question, but having seen it mentioned a few times - what is this about collecting money for Cherry legends?  Is there some sort of fee that has to be paid to use them?

[TDub]

Very interessted in this! I think these will look awesome!

[alaricljs]

Have to pay to make the molds for the legends and pay for keys to be tested on each legend and make sure they'll be done right.

[danielucf]

Sorry for the silly question, but having seen it mentioned a few times - what is this about collecting money for Cherry legends?  Is there some sort of fee that has to be paid to use them?

At one point each key was made available for people to "adopt" and essentially donate the $45 new legend fee. All legends were spoken for pretty quickly if I remember correctly but then the money was never collected.

In my opinion for anything donation based you just collect the donations right away in case people pull out or change their mind later. Collect now, you've got it for sure, collect later and who knows what you'll get. I guess maybe it was more of a pledge thing, but I wish they would get the ball rolling, or at least let everyone know where it stands in one easy to find location since it is such a cool community driven project.

[rowdy]

Ah, I see, thank you.

But, given the apparent popularity of these (the number of griup buys where someone asks "Will these have Cherry legends?"), wouldn't it pay SP to make the molds themselves, then sell the keycaps at a slightly higher price?  If they are that popular they would sell, and continue to sell, and SP would recoup their initial investment?

[Batmann]

Ah, I see, thank you.

But, given the apparent popularity of these (the number of griup buys where someone asks "Will these have Cherry legends?"), wouldn't it pay SP to make the molds themselves, then sell the keycaps at a slightly higher price?  If they are that popular they would sell, and continue to sell, and SP would recoup their initial investment?

If I understood correctly, Cherry legends will only be available for geekhack group buys. SP will have to ask permission to use them.
I kind of like the idea, that makes them very limited.

[rowdy]

Sounds good   Ok, back to business.

Is there a colour code for toxic green?

The keycaps here http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37270.msg709306#msg709306 look cool, but I couldn't see exactly that colour on SP web site.

The original mockup looks darker, and the mockup by Batmann looks good, but a bit washed out compared to the really bright green (if it is toxic green).

[Batmann]

I took this color code CMYK  (38, 0, 78, 1), that's what google gave me ^^
looks pretty close to VAT from SP but it's hard to be sure knowing that shades vary from one screen to another
Think our best shot on this is to ask color code to SP

[rowdy]

I have no idea about CMYK, and probably little colour sense (other than liking yellow and colours close to it heh), but I poked some numbers into GIMP and came up with this:



Looking specifically at F5..F8:

F5 = 6 0 63 0 = the middle of the Enter key from the photo with the toxic green on page 1
F6 = 78 0 94 4 = the original mockup colour
F7 = 20 0 51 19 = the second mockup (a few posts up)
F8 = 38 0 78 1 = the colours you said you used

To me they all look different.  Perhaps something screwed up saving the file, or GIMP interprets the CMYK colours differently or something.

Personally I like the F8 colour - what you said you got from Google, although it is quite different to the mockup.

[danielucf]

I appreciate the effort but the only color that matters is labeled "VAT" in the following image, which I believe is the brightest shade of green SP can do without going custom colored (which I don't even know if they can do)

[rowdy]

Make of it what you will, and allowing for different lighting and picture clarity etc., but GIMP reckons that VAT is 31 0 53 24.

Damn Topre!  They have all the good colours.

[rowdy]

Here is the above image with both Win keys in this VAT colour (approximately).  They are a pretty close match to what Batmann said, so it is about the closest to the toxic green.

[ekw808]

Prefer this new one way more, as long as the green isnt the same color as the green from the CCnG.

I'm in for a set if that green num row comes standard with option for tsangan's kit since I'm only using keyboards with 1.5x mods these days. lol

You so fancy.

[nullstring]

color me interested.
I'd also like to see other colors on charcoal like this.
Amber, Blue, and Green.

EDIT: I am not really feeling that toxic color...
Any thoughts on Amber or Blue? It seems like we have plenty of good options with those colors.

[danielucf]

color me interested.
I'd also like to see other colors on charcoal like this.
Amber, Blue, and Green.

EDIT: I am not really feeling that toxic color...
Any thoughts on Amber or Blue? It seems like we have plenty of good options with those colors.

After this toxic set I think a light blue color like signature plastics BBQ might also look good on dark or light charcoal. I personally like darker sets now, they seem more functional long term because you can not really notice as much when they get dirty. Also amber is pretty close to orange, and the OCKC set will be orange on light charcoal supposedly. Been waiting weeks for the group buy to get started *shrug*

[AriesX]

Id be interested in the set if the orange IC takes too long, also this keybaord would look sick with some glow in the dark caps

[kinruan]

i like VAT in the color tag

[esoomenona]

I don't know... I mean VAG is always a good choice, no?

[tjcaustin]

I think every time the full color ring comes out, that's a suggestion.

Not that I'm complaining.

/bro moment.

[The_Beast]

you mean a broment?

[esoomenona]

I think we should start an IC for VAG on VAG.

[sth]

IC VAG? is that like when you put bengay on your--

[tjcaustin]

you mean a broment?

Of course I do, what I did before, that was a test to see who was a real bro and who wasn't.  Call it a bro-check, if you will.

[tjcaustin]

I think we should start an IC for VAG on VAG.

I dunno, that's not that far off from blue waffle hues, I'm not a fan of that kind of VAG on VAG

IC VAG? is that like when you put bengay on your--

First, it gets cold to soothe the pain, then it gets what exactly?

[alaricljs]

I've asked this before... (just not publicly)  Is there an INA color code?

[tjcaustin]

If only there were a range of indigo colors for that...

[alaricljs]

So if B* is blue, and Y* is yellow and R* is red... wtf is V?!!??

Black and brown being some odd code is cool... W* is white...   gaaaaah!

[tjcaustin]

I'm trying to figure out why v is green, I bet I could find the answer with google, but that would be like cheating.

[alaricljs]

Who wants to run a VAG RA set?

[esoomenona]

So if B* is blue, and Y* is yellow and R* is red... wtf is V?!!??

Black and brown being some odd code is cool... W* is white...   gaaaaah!

Verde

[esoomenona]

Who wants to run a VAG RA set?

:|

[tjcaustin]

So if B* is blue, and Y* is yellow and R* is red... wtf is V?!!??

Black and brown being some odd code is cool... W* is white...   gaaaaah!

Verde

See?  Just easier for someone else to say it.  Though, considering where I live, I'm surprised it didn't click earlier for me.

[Ragnorock]

color me interested.
I'd also like to see other colors on charcoal like this.
Amber, Blue, and Green.

EDIT: I am not really feeling that toxic color...
Any thoughts on Amber or Blue? It seems like we have plenty of good options with those colors.

After this toxic set I think a light blue color like signature plastics BBQ might also look good on dark or light charcoal. I personally like darker sets now, they seem more functional long term because you can not really notice as much when they get dirty. Also amber is pretty close to orange, and the OCKC set will be orange on light charcoal supposedly. Been waiting weeks for the group buy to get started *shrug*

If you're going to do green, I get to do blue, deal? I had plans in the works to do both of those but I don't mind each of us doing one so we don't end up doing duplicates. I do want to do it on black though, so maybe down the road we can do a round 2 where we swap, and you do a blue on charcoal and I do the green. Make sense?

[danielucf]

I don't have a problem with that Ragnorock. I liked the Lambda group buy so I wanted to try a big one. Maybe I'll hate it and stick to smaller ones, maybe I'll love it. Who knows.

Also since the thread is going way off topic with little to no more input I think we are ready to start the group buy. Give it a week or two to get all the mock-ups together and an order page created and we'll get this started.

I had an idea to try and promote some of the small businesses at geekhack through this set. For instance if keypop.net or techkeys.us wanted to let us use some of their legends to make keys in VAT and GX variants to match this set they will get tons of free publicity just for sharing legends. There might even be ways to bundle in some QWERKey's caps or NIQMOD's caps, and I'm interested in other ways to promote other vendors here. The holy grail would be to bundle in a Toxic green CC  )

[rainbowshy]

Interested in this for sure, including an ISO add-on and either a modifier set or accent stripe -- can't quite decide.

[esoomenona]

I would really like a Toxic Green/Lime Green NIQMODS. Please try to work that in.

[Womble]

Definitely interested

[JSaintS]

Hi everyone! I'm really interested in this as it is what I'm looking for my keyboard, i just have a question, will there be a spacebar. In one of the set? Also is there a way to have the line of the backspace in the same green as the set?

I'm sorry if those questions have already been asked, but i'm in class, i'll check the topic when i get back home if nobody answered me yet.

[nunobet]

definitely interested!!!!

[TDub]

Will the |\ key also be available in black on green? I prefer the gap between enter and backspace not to be in a different color, but it's not a dealbreaker for me.

[Acetrak]

It's most likely going to stay the way in the mockup. Reason being that \ and ` are input keys, and Enter and Backspace keys are functions keys. It's also more of a classic/traditional way of coloring

[danielucf]

Both will be available in both colors because a modifier set will be available. I will also have extra space bars available, maybe even in VAT.

[ferociousfingerings]

*Declaration of Interest*

[rowdy]

Both will be available in both colors because a modifier set will be available. I will also have extra space bars available, maybe even in VAT.

Would it push the cost up much to include a spacebar of each colour and ` and \ keys in each colour?

[esoomenona]

I'm sure they'd be extra, though probably not much since they'll already be set up with the machine and colors.

[JSaintS]

I have to admit the " \ keys" would be awesome to add! I don't like the fact that it has to stay of another color :S

[danielucf]

Well you wouldn't want a "|\" in GX on VAT unless you had the green modifier set, and it will come with the green modifier set. The base set will come with the color stripe accent similar to how Sanctuary does, the modifier set will be separate.

In a week or two we will have all the mock-ups complete and start the group buy and it will all be more clear.

[JSaintS]

Well you wouldn't want a "|\" in GX on VAT unless you had the green modifier set, and it will come with the green modifier set. The base set will come with the color stripe accent similar to how Sanctuary does, the modifier set will be separate.

In a week or two we will have all the mock-ups complete and start the group buy and it will all be more clear.

the thing is I'm not thinking about taking the complete set, I'm just interested in the modifier set

[esoomenona]

I'm in for the whole set, so the one key should be an option, if not the both for others who aren't. Though they'd have to be a separate option, right?