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Title: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 30 April 2018, 10:48:52
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1FyLKrgFOsQkQp3bT5wgdpDVxjnD7ePCH share link for case cut files. Eventually I'll get a proper Github repo for it but until then this'll do.

More
6/24/18
Current status:
Submitted order and payment to JOlimon
Submitted invoice request to PCB designer, finalizing details of shipment with him
Submitted invoice request to GMK for the stabs, haven't heard back yet :(
Finalizing plate design since I missed a couple details in the recent protos, they'll be ready to submit for order soon
Case bumpons and stab washers are on hand

5/29/18
Worked with an extremely helpful PayPal service rep to get a workaround for the currently issues they're having, so I'll begin on the sorting and conversion process today and invoice should start being sent tomorrow since I have to go to my brothers' performance tonight.


Order form https://donutcables.com/budget96-gb-form/

For mobile/submission issues, use https://goo.gl/forms/hqQxX7NDdv2dpDbn1

Welcome to the long awaited GB for the budget96, the budget-friendly 96key kit.
(https://i.imgur.com/bTJ9ixr.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/bTJ9ixr.jpg)

This GB is intended to run from 4/30 to 5/27 with an estimated delivery date in June.

Some information on the components included in this GB:

The PCB
 - ps2avRGB by default, QMK support in progress
 - RGB underglow
 - in-switch backlighting support
 - multiple layout options shown below
 - available in both matte black and purple soldermask with gold immersion finish
(https://i.imgur.com/RmhcyOf.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/RmhcyOf.jpg)
Prototype PCB
(https://i.imgur.com/toK3xy7.png) (https://i.imgur.com/toK3xy7.png)
Supported Layouts

The Case
 - designed entirely by JOlimon of StrataKB
 - 1.6mm FR4 top and bottom plates in multiple colors
 - 9mm frosted acrylic middle layer
 - optional 9mm frosted acrylic
 - all assembly hardware and bumpons included
(https://i.imgur.com/Tix0WWZ.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Tix0WWZ.jpg)

GMK Screw-in Stabs
 - packs of 6x2u+1x6u+1x7u
 - include plastic washers to prevent shorting

More
Pricing is as follows:

PCB - Per Color
 - 50MOQ - $30
 - 100MO - $28
 - 150MOQ - $25

Case Pieces
Plates - Per Color
 - 10 units - $25/set
 - 25 units - $20/set
 - 50 units - $17.5/set
 - 75 units - $15/set
 - 100 units - $14/set

Middles -
 - 15 units - $37/per
 - 30 units - $33/per
 - 60 units - $30/per

Hipro Layer
 - 15 units - $47/per
 - 30 units - $43/per
 - 60 units - $40/per

GMK Stabs -
 - 100MOQ - $13/set


Edit: Adding in shipping information since I missed it before like a dummy.

For shipping CONUS It'll be roughly $15 from me(east coast) to California via Priority with some insurance, meaning everywhere inbetween should be cheaper incrementally. For Canada, it looks like about $17 First Class Intl uninsured. For other intl countries it should be approximately $25 First Class Intl. If I see enough numbers to make a proxy price efficient then I'll hook up with them, but there has to be numbers shown in the order form to do that, so please order to show interest.

I think I've covered everything here, but be sure to let me know if you think anything is missing!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 30 April 2018, 12:22:56
Since it's been asked in the Reddit posts, here's an album of most of my relevant pictures for the budget96 https://imgur.com/a/sacLlLG
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: MatchstickMan on Mon, 30 April 2018, 15:42:31
YES FINALLY
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 30 April 2018, 18:43:05
ordered... hope it was ok to just order pcbs cuz I had to choose a color for plates lol
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: OfTheWild on Mon, 30 April 2018, 19:20:00
as a 96key user, i love this project. I will try and convince some co-workers to jump on this.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: Ephemeral on Mon, 30 April 2018, 21:28:52
Ordered, hyped.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: Keebmeupscotty on Mon, 30 April 2018, 22:08:14
Nice job! Looks like you managed to get it in at 105 bucks with everything except the hipro plate. This will probably end up being the first board I attempt to build. I am just wondering if it might be possible to get just the plates and pcb (and assembly hardware/screws) without the middle acrylic? I like the look of it, but for like 40 bux on a board that is already budget minded, I would probably go w/o it and get an extra pcb if possible and just use an open middle with the standoffs in between the plates.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: azachhh on Tue, 01 May 2018, 08:51:57
Will you be posting updates to let us know where we stand in terms of MOQ throughout the GB? Or will we not know until the end?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 01 May 2018, 18:56:17
Welcome to the first update for the budget96! There's a lot of stuff to go over, so I'm gonna try a couple ways to do this before I settle.

Total Submissions - 29

Purple PCBs - 15/50
Black PCBs - 17/50

Black Plates - 13/25, 10MOQ hit
White Plates - 10/25, 10MOQ hit
Green Plates - 2/10
Blue Plates - 2/10

Middles - 27/30, 15MOQ hit
Hipro - 12/15

GMK Stabs - 29/100

ANALYSIS TIME

PCBs - Doing better than I expected for the first day, we're at almost 1/3 for purple, over 1/3 for black, so they're looking well on the way to MOQ and beyond.

Plates - Both the default colors have hit the lowest MOQ, so there's only price drops from here on out for them! I must say I did expect the blue plates to make an appearance, but I didn't actually expect the green ones to show up, so we'll see how far they go.

Acrylic layers - Middles have easily surpassed the lowest MOQ and are toeing the line of the next price drop. Hipro are actually more popular than I expected and I forsee them easily hitting lowest MOQ and getting along nicely.

GMK Stabs - 1 set of stabs per order placed, on average, not bad indeed. These should have no issue hitting MOQ.

So here's the current state of component pricing:

PCBs - $30, ~1/3 to MOQ

All Plates - $25, next price break at 25units/color

Middles - $37, three more to $33
Hipro - $40, three more to MOQ

GMK Stabs - $13

We've had lots of progress in the first day, so hopefully we can keep this up! I'm hoping this breakdown was easy to understand and I'll be looking to update at least every few days if not sooner. Don't be afraid to ask any questions you may have!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: Kavik on Wed, 02 May 2018, 00:08:45
Does the most barebones kit possible require only PCB, case, and plate? The middle piece and hipro are cosmetic add-ons basically. Is that correct?

EDIT: I looked at the order-form, and it sounds as if the middle is required and includes all the screws and such. Still a little confused though; I'm not familiar with sandwich cases.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: Tree_ on Wed, 02 May 2018, 01:07:38
Does the most barebones kit possible require only PCB, case, and plate? The middle piece and hipro are cosmetic add-ons basically. Is that correct?

EDIT: I looked at the order-form, and it sounds as if the middle is required and includes all the screws and such. Still a little confused though; I'm not familiar with sandwich cases.

The plates and acrylic middle make up the case.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 02 May 2018, 16:49:38
cant wait to get my hands on that purp PCB!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: azachhh on Wed, 02 May 2018, 16:50:57
Just placed an order for two full sets!
Depending on what MOQs are hit....may grab another.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: Kavik on Wed, 02 May 2018, 21:06:42
Does the most barebones kit possible require only PCB, case, and plate? The middle piece and hipro are cosmetic add-ons basically. Is that correct?

EDIT: I looked at the order-form, and it sounds as if the middle is required and includes all the screws and such. Still a little confused though; I'm not familiar with sandwich cases.

The plates and acrylic middle make up the case.

Ooooh, I get it. Thanks. For some reason, I read case, plate, and middle as separate pieces instead of the latter two's being a subset of the former.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Thu, 03 May 2018, 15:19:13
Figured I'd post today's updated a little early since I'll be spending the evening working on OG Coil invoicing.

Pasted from my comment on Reddit, so let me know if the formatting messes up part of it.

PCBs
    Matte black - 21/50
    Purple - 20/50

Plates
    White - 10/25, 10 MOQ hit!
    Black - 16/25, 10 MOQ hit!
    Blue - 2/10
    Green - 2/10
    Yellow - 1/10

Middle and Hipro layers
    Middles - 33/60, 15 MOQ and 30 unit price drop hit!
    Hipro - 14/15

Middles are now down to the $33 price point!

Good numbers so far and I look forward to seeing what we can reach throughout the rest of the month.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: bball2 on Thu, 03 May 2018, 23:05:38
Do you need a mid or hipro layer to complete the kit? Or will just the plate be sufficient?

Also is the top keyboard here an example of the "white" case? Ie) somewhat transparent with the underglow?

https://i.imgur.com/Tix0WWZ.jpg
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: Tree_ on Fri, 04 May 2018, 03:39:42
I don't think this has been asked at any point: Will the production plates have anything written on them like all the ones pictured do ("Prototype by...")?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: rockydbull on Fri, 04 May 2018, 08:00:22
Do you need a mid or hipro layer to complete the kit? Or will just the plate be sufficient?

Also is the top keyboard here an example of the "white" case? Ie) somewhat transparent with the underglow?

https://i.imgur.com/Tix0WWZ.jpg

My understanding is that a mid layer is needed based on the hardware used to secure the plates. The case you reference in the picture is translucent acrylic and is not an example of the white case. The white pcb material is the same level opaqueness as the green but in gloss like white. The white is good at reflecting the rgb off the bottom plate and out the middle acrylic though.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: HotRoderX on Sat, 05 May 2018, 03:10:25
just wanted to be clear if we order this now we don't get a invoice tell the buy ends?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Sat, 05 May 2018, 10:50:49
Do you need a mid or hipro layer to complete the kit? Or will just the plate be sufficient?

Also is the top keyboard here an example of the "white" case? Ie) somewhat transparent with the underglow?

https://i.imgur.com/Tix0WWZ.jpg

Mid is required, hipro is not. The board in that picture is the all acrylic Rev1 prototype.

I don't think this has been asked at any point: Will the production plates have anything written on them like all the ones pictured do ("Prototype by...")?

There will be no silkscreen visible once the case is assembled. There will be some on the inside of the plates where it won't be visible in normal use since the manu forces a production number onto everything, and I may include some.

just wanted to be clear if we order this now we don't get a invoice tell the buy ends?

Correct, invoicing will not happen until the GB period is over.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: tanvir175 on Sun, 06 May 2018, 18:20:22
The PCB would work with the Espectro right? I would be able to just use the Espectro case+plate along with this PCB?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 06 May 2018, 18:48:08
The PCB would work with the Espectro right? I would be able to just use the Espectro case+plate along with this PCB?

It should work with any case that has the USB port between column 0 and column 1 on the left side. Can't be 100% certain though.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: tanvir175 on Sun, 06 May 2018, 18:53:18
The PCB would work with the Espectro right? I would be able to just use the Espectro case+plate along with this PCB?

It should work with any case that has the USB port between column 0 and column 1 on the left side. Can't be 100% certain though.

Alright thanks, I'll check the espectro thread to confirm.

Edit: Looks like it'll work. I'll be in for two PCB's, one of each.

Edit 2: There isn't an option to not buy the plate?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 06 May 2018, 20:02:46
You choose a plate color and then just pick 0 on the case kit since the case kit includes the plates.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: tanvir175 on Sun, 06 May 2018, 21:04:01
You choose a plate color and then just pick 0 on the case kit since the case kit includes the plates.

Gotcha. Submitted for 1 purple and 1 matte black PCB.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 08 May 2018, 12:41:05
Alright, time for an update. The last one seemed to work well, so I'll try doing that again.

PCBs
    Matte black - 31/50
    Purple - 29/50

Plates
    White - 19/25, 10 MOQ hit!
    Black - 22/25, 10 MOQ hit!
    Blue - 2/10
    Green - 4/10
    Yellow - 1/10

Middle and Hipro layers
    Middles - 47/60, 15 MOQ and 30 unit price drop hit!
    Hipro - 18/30, 15 MOQ hit!

GMK Stabs - 53/100

Current prices:
PCBs - $30/each
Plates - $25/set
Middles - $37 $33
Hipro - $47
Stabs - $13

Looking really good for just overt a week at this point and we're well on track to hit all the MOQs we need and a good few price drops as well!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 11 May 2018, 14:51:53
Time for another update on numbers!

PCBs
    Matte black - 36/50
    Purple - 32/50

Plates
    White - 22/25, 10 MOQ hit!
    Black - 25/50, 10 MOQ hit, 25 unit price drop hit!
    Blue - 2/10
    Green - 5/10
    Yellow - 1/10

Middle and Hipro layers
    Middles - 54/60, 15 MOQ and 30 unit price drop hit!
    Hipro - 19/30, 15 MOQ hit!

GMK Stabs - 60/100

Current prices:
PCBs - $30/each
Plates - $25/set, Black plates - $20/set
Middles - $37 $33
Hipro - $47
Stabs - $13

Base kit(PCB, case kit) - $88
Base kit black plates - $83

Black plates are the first to hit the first price break with white not far behind, dropping base kit prices $5. Middles are 90% of the way to hitting their final price drop bringing the base kit price down another $3 when they do.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: HotRoderX on Fri, 11 May 2018, 21:29:01
am excited got my order in today I am thinking might do a Ultra Violet Build are maybe a Orange Build are Maybe something wild. I mean options are limitless and if the prices keep going down might have to grab another PCB and plate to have extra options down the road

Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 13 May 2018, 19:08:25
Figure I'll post another update since we hit a couple price drops this weekend:

PCBs
    Matte black - 41/50
    Purple - 36/50

Plates
    White - 25/50, 10 MOQ hit, 25 unit price drop hit!
    Black - 28/50, 10 MOQ hit, 25 unit price drop hit!
    Blue - 2/10
    Green - 6/10
    Yellow - 1/10
    Red - 1/10

Middle and Hipro layers
    Middles - 62/60, 15 MOQ 30 unit and 60 unit price drops hit!
    Hipro - 23/30, 15 MOQ hit!

GMK Stabs - 68/100

Current prices:
PCBs - $30/each
Plates - $25/set, Black and White plates - $20/set
Middles - $37 $33 $30!
Hipro - $47
Stabs - $13

Base kit(PCB, case kit) current price - $85
Base kit w/ black/white plates - $80

Continuing to do well, PCBs are doing very nicely and I expect them to hit MOQ without help. Middles are at their lowest price. Plate price drops will be the majority of price reductions from here on out.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 13 May 2018, 19:37:31
Is the moq for stabilizers 100? Or are you selling them regardless and 100 is a price drop?

If it's moq, i can add a couple more to my order.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 13 May 2018, 20:38:20
Is the moq for stabilizers 100? Or are you selling them regardless and 100 is a price drop?

If it's moq, i can add a couple more to my order.

That's MOQ, though if they get reasonably close without hitting I'm willing to buy to MOQ.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 13 May 2018, 20:50:49
Is the moq for stabilizers 100? Or are you selling them regardless and 100 is a price drop?

If it's moq, i can add a couple more to my order.

That's MOQ, though if they get reasonably close without hitting I'm willing to buy to MOQ.

Okay thanks. Either way, I think I ordered 2, can you bump that up to 4?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 13 May 2018, 21:02:25
Is the moq for stabilizers 100? Or are you selling them regardless and 100 is a price drop?

If it's moq, i can add a couple more to my order.

That's MOQ, though if they get reasonably close without hitting I'm willing to buy to MOQ.

Okay thanks. Either way, I think I ordered 2, can you bump that up to 4?

NP bby.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Thu, 17 May 2018, 14:11:00
Numbers update as usual:

PCBs
    Matte black - 45/50
    Purple - 38/50

Plates
    White - 25/50, 10 MOQ hit, 25 unit price drop hit!
    Black - 30/50, 10 MOQ hit, 25 unit price drop hit!
    Blue - 3/10
    Green - 6/10
    Red - 1/10
    Yellow - 1/10
   

Middle and Hipro layers
    Middles - 66/60, 15 MOQ 30 unit and 60 unit price drops hit!
    Hipro - 24/30, 15 MOQ hit!

GMK Stabs - 73/100

Current prices:
PCBs - $30/each
Plates - $25/set, Black and White plates - $20/set
Middles - $37 $33 $30!
Hipro - $47
Stabs - $13

Base kit(PCB, case kit) current price - $85
Base kit w/ black/white plates - $80

We had a couple order drops this week, but I'm still happy where the numbers are going.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: azachhh on Thu, 17 May 2018, 15:21:40
loving these numbers! would love to see the white & black plates hit 50 (since I ordered one of each  ;D ).
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: theraphosa13 on Sat, 19 May 2018, 23:01:01
Dumb question; Should i have gotten any sort of confirmation for filling out the order form? I never saw anything in my email and was just worried i may have goofed on my order.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Sat, 19 May 2018, 23:25:08
Afaik no confirmations since I've got it set to not automatically pick up emails.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: Blar on Sun, 20 May 2018, 09:35:49
Very interested in joining, pardon my ignorance, but to be clear hipro layers mean high profile?
Just extra standoffs with a third plate?   :^)
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 20 May 2018, 10:32:42
Very interested in joining, pardon my ignorance, but to be clear hipro layers mean high profile?
Just extra standoffs with a third plate?   :^)

Hipro is high profile, and in this case it's an acrylic layer similar to this picture but frosted like the middles will be
(https://i.imgur.com/Kegkuj0.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Kegkuj0.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: sacklunch on Sun, 20 May 2018, 18:23:49
In for an order!

Will the writing be on the case (budget 96 etc.)? I actually kind of like it.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 20 May 2018, 18:34:34
In for an order!

Will the writing be on the case (budget 96 etc.)? I actually kind of like it.

No silkscreen will be visible on the outside, there will be some on the inside where it's not visible in use.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 20 May 2018, 22:42:49
Little update for tonight, we've hit the MOQ for matte black PCBs and the price drop point for the hipro layers. Additionally, we're close enough to MOQ on purple PCBs that I'm going to call it as having hit MOQ as well. GMK stabs I'm also willing to push to MOQ from this point, so I'll also consider them as hit MOQ. Current numbers below:


PCBs
    Matte black - 50/100, 50 MOQ hit!
    Purple - 45/100, pushed to 50 MOQ!

Plates
    White - 29/50, 10 MOQ hit, 25 unit price drop hit!
    Black - 36/50, 10 MOQ hit, 25 unit price drop hit!
    Blue - 5/10
    Green - 7/10
    Red - 1/10
    Yellow - 1/10
   

Middle and Hipro layers
    Middles - 80/60, 15 MOQ 30 unit and 60 unit price drops hit!
    Hipro - 30/30, 15 MOQ hit, 30 unit price drop hit!

GMK Stabs - 84/100, pushed to MOQ!

Current prices:
PCBs - $30/each, both at MOQ
Plates - $25/set, Black and White plates - $25 $20/set!
Middles - $37 $33 $30!
Hipro - $47 $43
Stabs - $13, at MOQ!

Base kit(PCB, case kit) current price - $85
Base kit w/ black/white plates - $80
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: MeowiWaui on Mon, 21 May 2018, 03:06:08
Just joined!

Looking forward to this.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: bun on Mon, 21 May 2018, 04:48:56
Keen to join the group buy for green plates for the nuclear data set I managed to get a few weeks back from pmk  ;D

Question... the moq for green plates is 7, assuming I am the only further buyer for green, giving 8 sets ordered and therefore 2 lower than MOQ, what happens? Green is the only colour i'm keen on so i'm not sure what happens if you order and the MOQ isn't met.

New to group buys on GH, hence the question.

Thanks much.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: LogicBomb on Mon, 21 May 2018, 12:05:26
Keen to join the group buy for green plates for the nuclear data set I managed to get a few weeks back from pmk  ;D

Question... the moq for green plates is 7, assuming I am the only further buyer for green, giving 8 sets ordered and therefore 2 lower than MOQ, what happens? Green is the only colour i'm keen on so i'm not sure what happens if you order and the MOQ isn't met.

New to group buys on GH, hence the question.

Thanks much.

On the order page you select a fallback plate color (white/black) in case the color you choose doesn't hit MOQ.

Green is so close, I hope it hits MOQ...
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 21 May 2018, 12:18:37
Keen to join the group buy for green plates for the nuclear data set I managed to get a few weeks back from pmk  ;D

Question... the moq for green plates is 7, assuming I am the only further buyer for green, giving 8 sets ordered and therefore 2 lower than MOQ, what happens? Green is the only colour i'm keen on so i'm not sure what happens if you order and the MOQ isn't met.

New to group buys on GH, hence the question.

Thanks much.

In the form there's an option for choosing one of the default plate colors(black/white) in the event your first choice doesn't hit MOQ. In this particular case, 8 is close enough that I'm willing to push it to 10 MOQ.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 23 May 2018, 13:54:45
Today's numbers:


PCBs
    Matte black - 52/100, 50 MOQ hit!
    Purple - 46/100, pushed to 50 MOQ!

Plates
    White - 30/50, 10 MOQ hit, 25 unit price drop hit!
    Black - 38/50, 10 MOQ hit, 25 unit price drop hit!
    Blue - 5/10
    Green - 8/25, pushed to 10 MOQ!
    Red - 1/10
    Yellow - 1/10
   

Middle and Hipro layers
    Middles - 83/60, 15 MOQ 30 unit and 60 unit price drops hit!
    Hipro - 30/30, 15 MOQ hit, 30 unit price drop hit!

GMK Stabs - 88/100, pushed to MOQ!

Current prices:
PCBs - $30/each, both at MOQ
Plates - $25/set, Black and White plates - $25 $20/set!
Middles - $37 $33 $30!
Hipro - $47 $43
Stabs - $13, at MOQ!

Base kit(PCB, case kit) current price - $85
Base kit w/ black/white plates - $80

Looking pretty steady here on the home stretch. I was wanting to get us to 100 total orders, but even if we don't we've done well on all the MOQs and price points. JOlimon is sure to have his hands full with all of these case kits to work on :P

Blue, Red, and Yellow plates are currently struggling. If there's anyone that really wants those to hit, please join. It'd be awesome to see those hit MOQ, but I just can't afford to push them when there's this few ordered.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 25 May 2018, 12:45:46
Today's numbers:


PCBs
    Matte black - 57/100, 50 MOQ hit!
    Purple - 50/100, 50 MOQ hit!

Plates
    White - 33/50, 10 MOQ hit, 25 unit price drop hit!
    Black - 41/50, 10 MOQ hit, 25 unit price drop hit!
    Blue - 6/10
    Green - 10/25, 10 MOQ hit!
    Red - 1/10
    Yellow - 1/10
   

Middle and Hipro layers
    Middles - 91/60, 15 MOQ 30 unit and 60 unit price drops hit!
    Hipro - 33/60, 15 MOQ hit, 30 unit price drop hit!

GMK Stabs - 98/100, pushed to MOQ!

Current prices:
PCBs - $30/each, both at MOQ
Plates - $25/set, Black and White plates - $25 $20/set!
Middles - $37 $33 $30!
Hipro - $47 $43
Stabs - $13

Base kit(PCB, case kit) current price - $85
Base kit w/ black/white plates - $80

Orders still slowly making their way in. At this point most everything has hit base MOQ by itself. Blue is still right on the edge of being able to push it there, yellow and red are still behind and even though I want to see them made it's not viable at this low a number. If you really want to see them made as well now is the time to join!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: kmfmppl on Sun, 27 May 2018, 13:10:37
Entered, hyped! :D  Any chance of a EU proxy for this, or is that out of the question with the origin of orders so far?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 27 May 2018, 13:48:54
Last day for orders, here's where we're at right now

PCBs
    Purple - 53/100, 50 MOQ hit!
    Matte black - 63/100, 50 MOQ hit!
   

Plates
    Black - 43/50, 10 MOQ hit, 25 unit price drop hit!
    White - 36/50, 10 MOQ hit, 25 unit price drop hit!
    Blue - 7/10, pushed to 10 MOQ!
    Green - 11/25, 10 MOQ hit!
    Red - 1/10
    Yellow - 2/10
   

Middle and Hipro layers
    Middles - 99/60, 15 MOQ 30 unit and 60 unit price drops hit!
    Hipro - 36/60, 15 MOQ hit, 30 unit price drop hit!

GMK Stabs - 107/100, pushed to MOQ!

Current prices:
PCBs - $30/each, both at MOQ
Plates - $25/set, Black and White plates - $25 $20/set!
Middles - $37 $33 $30!
Hipro - $47 $43
Stabs - $13

Base kit(PCB, case kit) current price - $85
Base kit w/ black/white plates - $80

Most components have hit base MOQ, some have hit price breaks, and some haven't hit. Blue plates are close enough I'm willing to push them at this point, but more orders for them wouldn't hurt. Red and yellow currently aren't close to MOQ, and trying to push them at this point would detract too much from my ability to have backup materials on hand for the buy. For those three that ordered them, unless there's significant orders in the next 24hrs you'll be kicked to your backup choices. Other than that, expect invoicing to begin in the next couple days after I've had time to collect submission data and transfer it to invoicing.

Entered, hyped! :D  Any chance of a EU proxy for this, or is that out of the question with the origin of orders so far?

We're actually up to 10-11 EU orders right now, so that could definitely be an option. I'll have to check with my usual EU proxy buddy and see what the prices would be for bulk shipment to them and then their domestic shipping.

Also, I would like to reiterate, please read the form and don't put your email in the physical shipping address box. Additionally, put the entire address that I ask for and not just the street address. I'm getting quite tired of the extra work this causes me as well as the extra time it adds to the GB fulfillment having to go and get this information when it should have been given in the form. Beginning in my next GB, whatever that may be, I'll begin more strictly enforcing this with order cancellations and possible blacklisting like I've begun enforcing with invoice dodgers.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 27 May 2018, 16:34:24
Also, something else of interest, if you are one of the people looking for assembly for your board, when you get your initial invoice just message/email me to let me know and I'll adjust the invoice. A couple people have already mentioned it in the form and contacted me, and I want to be sure I get to everyone that wants it.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 27 May 2018, 19:08:24
Also, something else of interest, if you are one of the people looking for assembly for your board, when you get your initial invoice just message/email me to let me know and I'll adjust the invoice. A couple people have already mentioned it in the form and contacted me, and I want to be sure I get to everyone that wants it.
How much is assembly?

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Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 27 May 2018, 19:41:14
Assembly will be $25 for just switches(supplied by you) and +$8 for in-switch LEDs. Details will be worked out in email on a case-by-case basis.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: kmfmppl on Mon, 28 May 2018, 09:57:57
We're actually up to 10-11 EU orders right now, so that could definitely be an option. I'll have to check with my usual EU proxy buddy and see what the prices would be for bulk shipment to them and then their domestic shipping.

Sweet!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: Butter on Mon, 28 May 2018, 12:31:56
Will the pcb fit ZZ96?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 28 May 2018, 13:12:02
Will the pcb fit ZZ96?

Looks like it will according to the standoffs in the case.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 28 May 2018, 15:05:41
Small update, PayPal is apparently having an issue on their end with their batch invoicing setup so I'm currently unable to work on the invoices until that's back up and running. In the meantime I'll just leave the form open since we actually gained 25 orders in the past 24hrs, a huge boost. Here's where we are on the numbers right now


PCBs
    Purple - 60/100, 50 MOQ hit!
    Matte black - 77/100, 50 MOQ hit!
   

Plates
    Black - 48/50, 10 MOQ hit, 25 unit price drop hit!
    White - 46/50, 10 MOQ hit, 25 unit price drop hit!
    Blue - 7/10, pushed to 10 MOQ!
    Green - 11/25, 10 MOQ hit!
    Red - 1/10
    Yellow - 3/10
   

Middle and Hipro layers
    Middles - 119/60, 15 MOQ 30 unit and 60 unit price drops hit!
    Hipro - 40/60, 15 MOQ hit, 30 unit price drop hit!

GMK Stabs - 126/100, pushed to MOQ!

Current prices:
PCBs - $30/each, both at MOQ
Plates - $25/set, Black and White plates - $25 $20/set!
Middles - $37 $33 $30!
Hipro - $47 $43
Stabs - $13

Base kit(PCB, case kit) current price - $85
Base kit w/ black/white plates - $80

An absolutely huge push on the PCBs with a good push for the plates as well. White and black plates are so close I know they'll be able to hit with the form open another day or so. Hell, the black PCBs might even have a chance at the price drop at this rate :3
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 Now Live!
Post by: ideus on Mon, 28 May 2018, 17:39:43
It is really great to see interest in affordable custom keyboards. This initiative takes the keyboard to its roots: afordability, efficiency and convinience for computer input needs.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoicing in progress, form still open
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 29 May 2018, 15:54:16
5/29/18
Worked with an extremely helpful PayPal service rep to get a workaround for the currently issues they're having, so I'll begin on the sorting and conversion process today and invoice should start being sent tomorrow since I have to go to my brothers' performance tonight. I'm leaving the form open while working on the invoices in case any stragglers want to get in.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoicing in progress, form still open
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 30 May 2018, 16:27:09
Invoices should be sent now. Be sure to let me know if anything is incorrect before you pay it so I can still edit the invoice. Shipping will be invoiced when stuff is ready to ship out since some design changes have made the weights a little different. For the few of you that have ordered them, Red and Yellow plates will also be produced since I was able to wiggle a little bit to be able to order them.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoicing in progress, form still open
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 30 May 2018, 16:27:10
Just got my invoice but it didn't include shipping. Is that going to be charged later?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoicing in progress, form still open
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 30 May 2018, 16:30:20
It's happening!!



Just got my invoice but it didn't include shipping. Is that going to be charged later?

... Shipping will be invoiced when stuff is ready to ship out since some design changes have made the weights a little different. ...
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoicing in progress, form still open
Post by: LogicBomb on Wed, 30 May 2018, 16:32:18
Paid! Super exited for these. Glad red and yellow plates are being made too.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoicing in progress, form still open
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 30 May 2018, 16:35:21
Got the invoice but had a quick question. I noticed the middle layer wasn't being shown, Thought it did show 1 Case Kit Which could be the middle. I wanted to double check thought.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoicing in progress, form still open
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 30 May 2018, 17:09:24
Got the invoice but had a quick question. I noticed the middle layer wasn't being shown, Thought it did show 1 Case Kit Which could be the middle. I wanted to double check thought.

Case kit includes the middle piece like it did on the form submission.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: _joe_king on Wed, 30 May 2018, 17:20:23
Paid! Thanks for doing this GB :)
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: sacklunch on Wed, 30 May 2018, 17:43:45
Paid; thanks dude!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: kmfmppl on Thu, 31 May 2018, 03:56:14
Paid! Great that so many options are being made :) personally doing a white build, but looking forward to see the yellow ones
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: Sifo on Thu, 31 May 2018, 09:59:48
paed
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 01 June 2018, 15:15:50
Sitting at 33 unpaid right now with 2 drops so far, not bad so far. I've talked with a couple people about some delayed payments so that's no biggie. Hoping to have all payments and be ready to start placing orders by the end of next week. Right now the order priority is PCBs and acrylic layers since they seem to be what's going to take the longest. We've actually got quite a few more PCBs than the manu anticipated, so right now the estimate on their production is 20-30 days, but that might go up. I'm also ordering another set of proto plates later today to check all the cutouts for the compatible layouts and to doublecheck that our mounting solution for the countersunk screws isn't going to cause any issues.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 05 June 2018, 12:20:09
23 unpaid right now. Reminder that the technical due date for payment is tomorrow, so please remember to pay. Also a reminder that dodging invoices makes you subject to my terms and conditions page linked in the invoices, which may include blacklisting from future invoiced sales and GBs I conduct.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: kyoumau on Tue, 05 June 2018, 13:03:44
The shipping fees to Canada will be 17$? Or higher?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 05 June 2018, 13:08:36
The shipping fees to Canada will be 17$? Or higher?

We actually got 8 orders for Canada, so I'll be looking for a proxy to help keep shipping costs down. Should also help with customs fees and such as well.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: azachhh on Thu, 07 June 2018, 14:56:52
What’s the good word? Everybody pay up??
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: donutcat on Thu, 07 June 2018, 16:42:43
12 currently that haven't paid. I'll begin aggressive reminders while working on the 2nd round of invoices on the few late submissions.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: HotRoderX on Thu, 07 June 2018, 19:42:48
I got mine paid up and am now super excited. I am thinking might get some extra Mod-H switches or do some DIY switches ((First set)) for this board. I been given some thought to transplanting Burnt orange springs into some linear's.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: azachhh on Thu, 07 June 2018, 20:36:59
12 currently that haven't paid. I'll begin aggressive reminders while working on the 2nd round of invoices on the few late submissions.

How will non payment affect price points? If at all.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: kyoumau on Sat, 09 June 2018, 20:16:13
12 currently that haven't paid. I'll begin aggressive reminders while working on the 2nd round of invoices on the few late submissions.

So, did they pay? How will that affect?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: donutcat on Sat, 09 June 2018, 21:55:03
Non-payment of those invoices will at most affect numbers slightly on some of the plates, but I will keep everything as it is for those who paid invoices even if that happens.

An additional reminder that invoice dodging puts you on a blacklist for future sales from me, as per my terms and conditions linked in the invoices.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: kyoumau on Sat, 09 June 2018, 22:41:49
Non-payment of those invoices will at most affect numbers slightly on some of the plates, but I will keep everything as it is for those who paid invoices even if that happens.

An additional reminder that invoice dodging puts you on a blacklist for future sales from me, as per my terms and conditions linked in the invoices.

Nice. ( That's why I paid you, I didn't want to be banned for all the interesting gmk sets that you'll maybe run one day XD )
Do you have and estimation date when will you be able to ship?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: HotRoderX on Sun, 10 June 2018, 01:39:32
Non-payment of those invoices will at most affect numbers slightly on some of the plates, but I will keep everything as it is for those who paid invoices even if that happens.

An additional reminder that invoice dodging puts you on a blacklist for future sales from me, as per my terms and conditions linked in the invoices.


Hope you got mine I paid it a few days ago. I am sure you did and yea invoice dogging is kinda crap. The least they could do is contact you to let ya know something came up.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 10 June 2018, 12:51:08
I'm tolerant of people that will take the time to contact me to tell me something's up and they can't pay or need an extension, but I have no patience anymore for people that can't be bothered and just ignore the invoice. I used to think it pretty harsh when I saw artisan makers doing it, but after long enough dealing with people like this I can completely understand it now.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: kyoumau on Sun, 10 June 2018, 13:03:30
I'm tolerant of people that will take the time to contact me to tell me something's up and they can't pay or need an extension, but I have no patience anymore for people that can't be bothered and just ignore the invoice. I used to think it pretty harsh when I saw artisan makers doing it, but after long enough dealing with people like this I can completely understand it now.

Yeah, it's pretty impolite. The GB is like an agreement between 2 sides, and both sides should honor their part in the agreement.
I hope it won't affect too much in your finances.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: ZROGST on Sun, 10 June 2018, 14:48:31
I joined the GB for this and I'm excited about the timing I caught it at.   This will be one of my first board builds, so I'd love for the guys who also got kits to post some build logs either here or on youtube so I can board-a-long with you
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 10 June 2018, 22:05:49
I joined the GB for this and I'm excited about the timing I caught it at.   This will be one of my first board builds, so I'd love for the guys who also got kits to post some build logs either here or on youtube so I can board-a-long with you

I terrible at build logs, let alone pictures. But I happy to help your with any questions during your build.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 12 June 2018, 13:33:25
Alright, good news:bad news time. Good news: the most recent protos are here for testing the cutouts for all of the possible layouts. Haven't be able to test them just yet though. Bad news: the quality of the plates is absolutely the worst I've ever seen on PCBs. If you want to see the damage, check https://imgur.com/a/lKlwRHB. I'm contacting them to see what they say about it and hopefully this isn't indicative of what to expect during the GB.

Second round invoices will be going out here shortly. They'll have a one week deadline. We still have 11 unpaid invoices. I will be starting aggressive reminders until the second round deadline before removing those orders and blacklisting the emails.

Some bits are already in like the bumpons for the cases and the washers for the stabs. As soon as invoices are paid I can submit the orders for the other components.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: _joe_king on Tue, 12 June 2018, 17:32:17
Wow! hopefully that is just them sending out samples for layout purposes and not indicative of whats to come!!!

Alright, good news:bad news time. Good news: the most recent protos are here for testing the cutouts for all of the possible layouts. Haven't be able to test them just yet though. Bad news: the quality of the plates is absolutely the worst I've ever seen on PCBs. If you want to see the damage, check https://imgur.com/a/lKlwRHB. I'm contacting them to see what they say about it and hopefully this isn't indicative of what to expect during the GB.

Second round invoices will be going out here shortly. They'll have a one week deadline. We still have 11 unpaid invoices. I will be starting aggressive reminders until the second round deadline before removing those orders and blacklisting the emails.

Some bits are already in like the bumpons for the cases and the washers for the stabs. As soon as invoices are paid I can submit the orders for the other components.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Tue, 12 June 2018, 21:35:05
Alright, good news:bad news time. Good news: the most recent protos are here for testing the cutouts for all of the possible layouts. Haven't be able to test them just yet though. Bad news: the quality of the plates is absolutely the worst I've ever seen on PCBs. If you want to see the damage, check https://imgur.com/a/lKlwRHB. I'm contacting them to see what they say about it and hopefully this isn't indicative of what to expect during the GB.

Second round invoices will be going out here shortly. They'll have a one week deadline. We still have 11 unpaid invoices. I will be starting aggressive reminders until the second round deadline before removing those orders and blacklisting the emails.

Some bits are already in like the bumpons for the cases and the washers for the stabs. As soon as invoices are paid I can submit the orders for the other components.

Damn. I explained that album to be like 3 or 4 pics. But it went on forever!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: HotRoderX on Tue, 12 June 2018, 23:27:59
Alright, good news:bad news time. Good news: the most recent protos are here for testing the cutouts for all of the possible layouts. Haven't be able to test them just yet though. Bad news: the quality of the plates is absolutely the worst I've ever seen on PCBs. If you want to see the damage, check https://imgur.com/a/lKlwRHB. I'm contacting them to see what they say about it and hopefully this isn't indicative of what to expect during the GB.

Second round invoices will be going out here shortly. They'll have a one week deadline. We still have 11 unpaid invoices. I will be starting aggressive reminders until the second round deadline before removing those orders and blacklisting the emails.

Some bits are already in like the bumpons for the cases and the washers for the stabs. As soon as invoices are paid I can submit the orders for the other components.

Whats the plan if the manufacture say's thats as good as they will promise quality wise? Would you look for another manufacture or just go with that one and hope for the best.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 15 June 2018, 20:56:49
JLC claims they'll do their best to avoid these issues in the future. I'm hoping they do, because the extent of the issues on these protos is inexcusable but changing manufacturers isn't really an option currently. The next cheapest PCB fab would be 64% more expensive than JLC, bringing the cost higher than I can afford and higher than I want to charge anyone.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: donutcat on Sat, 16 June 2018, 01:35:41
The invoices that were notably overdue and repeatedly ignored have been cancelled and the recipients blacklisted. Currently there is one order from earlier this week that I'm waiting for, but they're within the time limit. Currently, this is what our numbers look like
(https://i.imgur.com/KUHelQj.png) (https://i.imgur.com/KUHelQj.png)
Starting tomorrow I'll be beginning submitting orders to relevant vendors and fabs, though it is a weekend so there won't be immediate responses.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: Blar on Mon, 18 June 2018, 11:41:15
The invoices that were notably overdue and repeatedly ignored have been cancelled and the recipients blacklisted.



nice :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: Evolken on Mon, 18 June 2018, 14:20:14
Do you think the group buy is still on schedule to ship out by the end of June?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 18 June 2018, 14:24:17
Do you think the group buy is still on schedule to ship out by the end of June?

It's more likely to be closer to the "mid July" part of the date range I initially gave. I've no doubt plates will be a quick turnover, but getting the cut parts from JOlimon will take some time as well as PCB production, and I've run into a potential delay with GMK since emailing them about the stabs returned an automatic reply that my contact won't be back in the office until July 5th. Hopefully this might be a mistake, but if not it could certainly be a hindrance.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: MatchstickMan on Mon, 18 June 2018, 14:37:56
I was just seeing on the HS60 GB that the GMK stabs were causing delays. Don't have any recommendations, but more as an FYI.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: Evolken on Mon, 18 June 2018, 20:44:33
Do you think the group buy is still on schedule to ship out by the end of June?

It's more likely to be closer to the "mid July" part of the date range I initially gave. I've no doubt plates will be a quick turnover, but getting the cut parts from JOlimon will take some time as well as PCB production, and I've run into a potential delay with GMK since emailing them about the stabs returned an automatic reply that my contact won't be back in the office until July 5th. Hopefully this might be a mistake, but if not it could certainly be a hindrance.

Thanks for the quick response.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 20 June 2018, 16:09:54
Orders for the acrylic middles and hipros has been placed and paid for with materials for them currently on order.

Requested an invoice for stabs but nothing back yet due to the situation mentioned previously.

Plates are not ordered yet as we're waiting on one last revision to the design to clean up some spots on the bottom row where cutouts are making spots that are too thin for the FR4
(https://i.imgur.com/7gwkm9g.png) (https://i.imgur.com/7gwkm9g.png)
The tiny bits we're removing to clean it up

I'm currently talking with my PCB designer to work out the last details for shipping cost and numbers ordered. I'm also adding some samples to the order for the other layouts the designer has available so I can evaluate them for future budget-series boards.

Bumpons and stab washers are already on hand.

Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: MatchstickMan on Wed, 20 June 2018, 16:50:01
I love hearing that you're looking at more budget boards. Between the Contra and this, I'll be racking up quite the collection!

I would still very much like to see a split spacebar version of a 96 board or full 104 or TKL for that matter.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Invoices Sent!
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 20 June 2018, 18:36:15
would love to see a budget TKL and a semi budget carbon fiber TKL would be amazing. I know there only so much cost savings with carbon fiber but would be nice.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: azachhh on Thu, 28 June 2018, 19:40:57
What’s the latest?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 29 June 2018, 18:17:57
Plates and PCBs are both waiting for final confirmations on details before payment goes through. JOlimon said he should be going to pick up the acrylic next week, which he has to borrow a truck in order to do so since the budget96 order required 8640in³8640in³ of acrylic. Keep an eye out for him to post gnarly pics of that ordeal on reddit.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: _joe_king on Sun, 08 July 2018, 11:50:00
That is a lot of acrylic!! How is everything else looking? Very excited for this one :)
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 08 July 2018, 12:47:35
We're unfortunately still waiting on GMK's invoice manager to be from leave before we can order stabs. This might be affecting other GBs as well if they're waiting for invoices to submit their payments as well.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: MatchstickMan on Mon, 09 July 2018, 09:40:34
We're unfortunately still waiting on GMK's invoice manager to be from leave before we can order stabs. This might be affecting other GBs as well if they're waiting for invoices to submit their payments as well.

Ah good, the ol' single-point-of-failure meme of Supply Chain Management...
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: johntron25 on Tue, 10 July 2018, 17:30:32
Are there any updates (pictures) for the acrylic plates?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 10 July 2018, 23:46:31
Are there any updates (pictures) for the acrylic plates?

I'll have to check with JOlimon to see if he's got any pics yet.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: Gettys on Mon, 16 July 2018, 21:48:51
Any updates lately on how things are going?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 17 July 2018, 18:10:58
Any updates lately on how things are going?

Nothing really notable going on at the moment, things are sitting in production and I'm waiting for components to start being shipped to me.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: Gettys on Tue, 17 July 2018, 18:29:57
Any updates lately on how things are going?

Nothing really notable going on at the moment, things are sitting in production and I'm waiting for components to start being shipped to me.

Cool, just keeping up with it.  Almost forgot I was in the GB and hadn't been on the up and up.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: azachhh on Thu, 26 July 2018, 07:40:18
So anxious for these to start shipping!!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: RobotRogue on Wed, 01 August 2018, 10:58:03
If you end up with a spare PCB I'd love to buy one. (Just the PCB, that is)
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 01 August 2018, 13:48:51
If you end up with a spare PCB I'd love to buy one. (Just the PCB, that is)

Barring any issues, like the plane they're gonna be on crashing, there should be plenty of extras available.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 01 August 2018, 15:49:59
Donut do you have any updated ETA's on when things are expected? I am kinda excited to know there being shipped via air and not sea. I am guessing thought for something so lightweight air is most likely the cheaper option.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: RobotRogue on Wed, 01 August 2018, 16:53:18
If you end up with a spare PCB I'd love to buy one. (Just the PCB, that is)

Barring any issues, like the plane they're gonna be on crashing, there should be plenty of extras available.
Well that just made my day.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 01 August 2018, 19:59:52
Donut do you have any updated ETA's on when things are expected? I am kinda excited to know there being shipped via air and not sea. I am guessing thought for something so lightweight air is most likely the cheaper option.

No solid ETA yet, JOlimon is still working his way through tons of acrylic cutting and the PCBs should be going through assembly right now. Stabs did come in this week after being stuck in customs for a couple days, so now I've got to go through and add all the washers to them.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: johntron25 on Sat, 04 August 2018, 17:22:41
Are there any pics of the acrylic? Im not really asking for glamour shots just any pic would do. I'm just trying to plan which keycaps to use.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 07 August 2018, 15:52:33
(https://i.imgur.com/8n3B2Np.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/8n3B2Np.jpg)
Actually a panorama to capture JOlimon's entire shelf of acrylic for this GB

(https://i.imgur.com/l4fOzoT.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/l4fOzoT.jpg)
Pic of the acrylic on test plate cuts.

JOlimon said he's looking to have these shipped out later this week hopefully after working his way through countersinking the top layers.

In other news, plates are still working their way through production. Sheer quantity it making the inspection stages take longer than the initial quote.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: HotRoderX on Tue, 07 August 2018, 16:30:01
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8n3B2Np.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/8n3B2Np.jpg)

Actually a panorama to capture JOlimon's entire shelf of acrylic for this GB

(https://i.imgur.com/l4fOzoT.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/l4fOzoT.jpg)
Pic of the acrylic on test plate cuts.

JOlimon said he's looking to have these shipped out later this week hopefully after working his way through countersinking the top layers.

In other news, plates are still working their way through production. Sheer quantity it making the inspection stages take longer than the initial quote.

That poor shelf RIP.. and thats a good issue to have this group buy was amazing. I am hoping we might see other sizes in the future. Like 75%. Maybe TKL etc etc. There does seem to be a big market for it maybe.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: _joe_king on Tue, 07 August 2018, 18:13:41
Do you see there being any spare hipro layers? I just checked over my info and dont think I freaking bought one :( :( :(
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 08 August 2018, 02:09:45
Do you see there being any spare hipro layers? I just checked over my info and dont think I freaking bought one :( :( :(

Unfortunately not. Both of the acrylic pieces I was bad at math and almost ended up going negative on pricing them, so I didn't even have enough to order single extras.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: Blar on Thu, 09 August 2018, 09:32:28
Looking forward to shipment.

whenever that is  :D
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: johntron25 on Fri, 10 August 2018, 13:59:50
looks really nice with granites
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: rmiles on Fri, 17 August 2018, 15:38:58
Any update? Looking forward to this and glad to see progress.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 17 August 2018, 20:11:38
Nothing in particular to update yet. Plates are in shipment and should be passing through US customs soon, hopefully without a delay like my other recent shipments. PCBs are still in production/assembly and may soon be shipping out.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: donutcat on Sat, 25 August 2018, 15:32:12
Small update, plates and acrylic pieces are here and I'll be going over them the next few days to make sure everything's all howdy-doody. Additionally, I've got an update on the PCBs

(https://i.imgur.com/jXabbb0.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/jXabbb0.jpg)

The final version of the PCBs has come in from fab and will be moving shortly to SMD assembly. I'm really hoping to see these moving along before too long.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: _joe_king on Tue, 28 August 2018, 11:49:32
that purple looks great!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Tue, 28 August 2018, 14:29:03
that purple looks great!

It really does! I'm stoked for this to start shipping!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: ZROGST on Tue, 28 August 2018, 18:57:45
The updates have been great.  I still haven't decided on switches and caps for this build. What's everyone else planning? I like that click life!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: Evolken on Tue, 28 August 2018, 19:22:39
The updates have been great.  I still haven't decided on switches and caps for this build. What's everyone else planning? I like that click life!

I decided on the 70g Aliaz switches and EnjoyPBT Russian/Orange key set. I built a Contra with the Aliaz switches and love the muted sound of them.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: MatchstickMan on Tue, 28 August 2018, 21:50:50
The updates have been great.  I still haven't decided on switches and caps for this build. What's everyone else planning? I like that click life!

This is going to be my work keyboard, so I decided to go with heavy Zilents. As for caps, I dunno...maybe this will hold my GMK Laser?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Tue, 28 August 2018, 23:17:29
The updates have been great.  I still haven't decided on switches and caps for this build. What's everyone else planning? I like that click life!

Not quite sure yet. But I'm probably going to do lubed gat blacks (again) and might put GMK Plum or Hyperfuse Origins on it. Either way, white plates and purple leds are a given.

What're your ideas?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: lollipoplouie on Wed, 29 August 2018, 00:25:41
The updates have been great.  I still haven't decided on switches and caps for this build. What's everyone else planning? I like that click life!
I am in the click club as well, have a bag full of box navies and Maxkeys dolch on standby!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 29 August 2018, 07:43:55
The updates have been great.  I still haven't decided on switches and caps for this build. What's everyone else planning? I like that click life!

Glad that I'm keeping updates to satisfaction. Dealing with delays and hits to the timeline isn't easy but I'm trying to do what I can to keep everyone up to date.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: _joe_king on Wed, 29 August 2018, 08:14:22
The updates have been great.  I still haven't decided on switches and caps for this build. What's everyone else planning? I like that click life!

I went with some box royal's that I have lubed and slightly modified with partial stickers that eliminated the already very minimal play. Very excited to get this build complete and will top it off with GMK Yuri.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: ZROGST on Wed, 29 August 2018, 11:51:48
Not quite sure yet. But I'm probably going to do lubed gat blacks (again) and might put GMK Plum or Hyperfuse Origins on it. Either way, white plates and purple leds are a given.

What're your ideas?

I'm using Box Navies in my TADA68 and Box Jades in my Planck. Outemu clicks in MacroPad and being used in my Gherkin build.  I've used Cherry Greens in the passed. I'm totally open to more click suggestions for the Budget96 build if anyone has any...

I don't have anything in particular in mind for caps, but I was thinking a more affordable all-over dye sub PBT set... they seem to show up on MassDrop fairly frequently and don't have super long delivery times.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: Blar on Thu, 30 August 2018, 10:58:56

I'm using Box Navies in my TADA68 and Box Jades in my Planck. Outemu clicks in MacroPad and being used in my Gherkin build.  I've used Cherry Greens in the passed. I'm totally open to more click suggestions for the Budget96 build if anyone has any...


Can you or anyone reading this please tell me how Box Navys compare to Cherry MX Greens.  I'm very interested in getting these for this board.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: portbaron on Thu, 30 August 2018, 12:36:08

I'm using Box Navies in my TADA68 and Box Jades in my Planck. Outemu clicks in MacroPad and being used in my Gherkin build.  I've used Cherry Greens in the passed. I'm totally open to more click suggestions for the Budget96 build if anyone has any...


Can you or anyone reading this please tell me how Box Navys compare to Cherry MX Greens.  I'm very interested in getting these for this board.
Navys feel a little heavier, a little more tactile, and sound infinitely better. Crisper, no plastic rattle like MX blues/greens.

It's too bad you won't really see the purple pcb with keycaps on, it looks nice.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: ZROGST on Thu, 30 August 2018, 13:52:11
Can you or anyone reading this please tell me how Box Navys compare to Cherry MX Greens.  I'm very interested in getting these for this board.

Both the Box Navies and Jades are superior in every way to the MX Greens. The click is crisper and thicker.  I cannot recommend them enough.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: azachhh on Fri, 31 August 2018, 12:54:33
The updates have been great.  I still haven't decided on switches and caps for this build. What's everyone else planning? I like that click life!

I got 2 boards....gonna do Kailh Pro Purple on one, then some Box Whites on the other. Not sure about caps...I have an order out for those Starry Night ones from zFrontier....if they ever ship lol
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 05 September 2018, 15:24:20
any updates?  Any sort of ETA?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Payment Submissions
Post by: Overchecken8 on Thu, 06 September 2018, 20:02:59
any updates?  Any sort of ETA?
Curious about what the ETA might be as well.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: donutcat on Thu, 06 September 2018, 21:07:35
Not much to update on at the moment, PCBs are still in assembly. One thing to consider is that when I got my initial estimate for assembly it was based on an order of 100 PCBs whereas the order for this buy ended up quite exceeding that at 250, so that may be part of the delay. I'll update when I hear back after fabrication.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: Sifo on Thu, 06 September 2018, 21:11:28
cool beans
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: johntron25 on Fri, 07 September 2018, 13:55:31
would you say that you'll get the PCB this month? or next?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: 8six753o9 on Thu, 13 September 2018, 21:42:55
So just curious on the status of this.  Do you have any pictures of the plate colors that isn't green or black?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: donutcat on Thu, 20 September 2018, 14:54:07
So just curious on the status of this.  Do you have any pictures of the plate colors that isn't green or black?


(https://i.imgur.com/eh8Zlss.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/eh8Zlss.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dPMXNny.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/dPMXNny.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CNpEmAj.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/CNpEmAj.jpg)

Grabbed a couple pics last weekend and then lost track of stuff with it being a bit stormy. Still in the plastic to try and keep them clean until time to ship them. Red and blue came out as expected, yellow leans a bit more towards gold than a saturated yellow, but it should still look good.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: 8six753o9 on Thu, 20 September 2018, 17:21:08
Looks nice!  Thanks for the update.


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Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: regionfree on Thu, 20 September 2018, 21:05:26
those colors look great!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: sickbabies on Sat, 22 September 2018, 22:08:40
Nice! Really happy that I'm one of the people that went for blue plates
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: johntron25 on Sun, 23 September 2018, 15:59:10
What about the white plates? Are those still being cut?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: 112227 on Thu, 04 October 2018, 19:28:25
entering month 5 of delay. What is the over/under for delivery before 2019? I'm guessing it's not going to happen.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: donutcat on Thu, 04 October 2018, 20:53:17
entering month 5 of delay. What is the over/under for delivery before 2019? I'm guessing it's not going to happen.

We're currently only 4mo past the invoicing date, I'm not sure what "over/under" is meant to mean, but as it sits right now there's no reason for them not to be in shipping to me aside from the current holiday. PCBs are the only thing that's being waited on at the moment and once those are in hand shipping can happen right after.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: HotRoderX on Fri, 05 October 2018, 01:54:18
entering month 5 of delay. What is the over/under for delivery before 2019? I'm guessing it's not going to happen.

We're currently only 4mo past the invoicing date, I'm not sure what "over/under" is meant to mean, but as it sits right now there's no reason for them not to be in shipping to me aside from the current holiday. PCBs are the only thing that's being waited on at the moment and once those are in hand shipping can happen right after.

Wow has it really been 4 months?? This seems like it happened just the other day! Time has certainly flown. I am sure the holiday is holding things up so no worries. Plus the order was larger that held things up also. I am pretty excited and completely forgot a ordered this! I am really glad you reminded me. I think got a black one which is perfect. Since I got a set of Laser keycap's coming in. I out fit the board with some pink/purple LED's and now Laser will have a nice Unique one of a kind home!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: 112227 on Fri, 05 October 2018, 02:03:42
entering month 5 of delay. What is the over/under for delivery before 2019? I'm guessing it's not going to happen.

We're currently only 4mo past the invoicing date, I'm not sure what "over/under" is meant to mean, but as it sits right now there's no reason for them not to be in shipping to me aside from the current holiday. PCBs are the only thing that's being waited on at the moment and once those are in hand shipping can happen right after.




Correct. It's been 4 months, hence "entering" the 5th month. The over/under is a common betting term. If I'm being cynical and don't believe the budget96 would be delivered by years end, I would take the "over" odds to the bet.

:)
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: severin on Fri, 05 October 2018, 08:58:27
Correct. It's been 4 months, hence "entering" the 5th month. The over/under is a common betting term. If I'm being cynical and don't believe the budget96 would be delivered by years end, I would take the "over" odds to the bet.

:)

why would you equate 5 months past invoicing to 5 months of delay?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: HotRoderX on Fri, 05 October 2018, 12:28:10
Correct. It's been 4 months, hence "entering" the 5th month. The over/under is a common betting term. If I'm being cynical and don't believe the budget96 would be delivered by years end, I would take the "over" odds to the bet.

:)

why would you equate 5 months past invoicing to 5 months of delay?

Honestly I don't think there native English speaker. They could be using a translator. I just don't understand why they think we won't see these before the end of the year. I mean that seems a bit crazy. There still 3 month's left in my calendar year.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: 112227 on Sat, 06 October 2018, 00:42:03
If you look at the first post...the original estimated delivery was June.  June to July, July to August, August to September, September to October. That would be four months past estimated delivery. Now, since we are in October and will be waiting into November, that would mean we are entering the 5th month of delay.

Is it really that hard to understand?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: HotRoderX on Sat, 06 October 2018, 01:50:57
If you look at the first post...the original estimated delivery was June.  June to July, July to August, August to September, September to October. That would be four months past estimated delivery. Now, since we are in October and will be waiting into November, that would mean we are entering the 5th month of delay.

Is it really that hard to understand?

yea its pretty hard to understand why you think a group buy, that stated payment wasn't submitted until 6/24/2018. Would be finished and shipping in the month of June. There was also the fact Donutcat keep telling us, if we had a larger order of PCB's it would increase the manufacturing time significantly. We all knew going in this wouldn't be done in June. Shoot most of us expected it likely wouldn't be done in September. I think end of October start of November. Is a reasonable expectation. Though if it takes longer it takes longer. Donuts been very very transparent about things. Has updated the thread anytime we asked him to.  I don't see the big deal perhaps group buys aren't your thing if your going to hang on Estimated dates. Keep in mind Group buys aren't Amazon.com.

I do think group buy runner should be held accountable for what happens, its part of the risk of taking on a group buy. In this case there nothing to be upset over donuts doing a fantastic job. Has done a fantastic job in the past and has gone above and beyond from what I have seen and read in previous group buys so I am personally not remotely worried.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: donutcat on Sat, 06 October 2018, 12:23:25
I appreciate the support, though I would like to keep any arguing in here to a minimum to keep the thread in order. I do acknowledge that we are pretty far past my initial estimate for a delivery date. This being my first GB of this sort, using multiple components from multiple sources vs just keysets or cables from a single manufacturer, my estimate for delivery was at the very least naively optimistic, particularly so when even the order from GMK was delayed beyond that estimate. This experience will no doubt help me better understand the process for future buys, but for the time being I've just been trying to keep everyone updated as we move along and work through the delays to get everything out when I can, which I hope is acceptable for those involved.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: _joe_king on Sat, 06 October 2018, 16:43:43
Thanks donutcat :) i wouldn’t hesitate to join another of your buys. Still VERY excited for this one :)
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: 112227 on Sat, 06 October 2018, 17:15:01
If you look at the first post...the original estimated delivery was June.  June to July, July to August, August to September, September to October. That would be four months past estimated delivery. Now, since we are in October and will be waiting into November, that would mean we are entering the 5th month of delay.

Is it really that hard to understand?

yea its pretty hard to understand why you think a group buy, that stated payment wasn't submitted until 6/24/2018. Would be finished and shipping in the month of June. There was also the fact Donutcat keep telling us, if we had a larger order of PCB's it would increase the manufacturing time significantly. We all knew going in this wouldn't be done in June. Shoot most of us expected it likely wouldn't be done in September. I think end of October start of November. Is a reasonable expectation. Though if it takes longer it takes longer. Donuts been very very transparent about things. Has updated the thread anytime we asked him to.  I don't see the big deal perhaps group buys aren't your thing if your going to hang on Estimated dates. Keep in mind Group buys aren't Amazon.com.

I do think group buy runner should be held accountable for what happens, its part of the risk of taking on a group buy. In this case there nothing to be upset over donuts doing a fantastic job. Has done a fantastic job in the past and has gone above and beyond from what I have seen and read in previous group buys so I am personally not remotely worried.


1. I didn't think the group buy would be finished and shipping in the month of June. I knew it was not going to be complete in June. But I'm using the dates and data that are provided. Why should I assume any different?

2.  I'm not "hanging on estimated dates." I made one statement of fact. I did not even mention any personal feelings or openings.

I should feel free to voice my opinion and feelings on a groupbuy I'm participating in. Why would you and the other individuals feel it necessary to attempt to shame me for feeling a certain way? I did not say anything about the way donutcat is handling the group buy, did I?

Please, tell me when it's appropriate to voice my frustration?

This is ridiculous.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 06 October 2018, 23:43:57
I appreciate the support, though I would like to keep any arguing in here to a minimum to keep the thread in order. I do acknowledge that we are pretty far past my initial estimate for a delivery date. This being my first GB of this sort, using multiple components from multiple sources vs just keysets or cables from a single manufacturer, my estimate for delivery was at the very least naively optimistic, particularly so when even the order from GMK was delayed beyond that estimate. This experience will no doubt help me better understand the process for future buys, but for the time being I've just been trying to keep everyone updated as we move along and work through the delays to get everything out when I can, which I hope is acceptable for those involved.

Thanks donut. Your updates have been fantastic. I always expect delays in gb, but your updates have squashed any doubt or worry that I might have had. Looking forward to building this guy.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 19 October 2018, 12:43:35
Small update, the boards are on their way to me but slightly delayed in a warehouse. I'm needing to get ahold of them to clear something up about transporting them, didn't get much from the initial email except something about magnets, so I'm assuming it's something to do with them being a large batch of boards with controllers and the notation on them. Hopefully this can be resolved pretty quickly and they can be back on their way to me. If all goes well I'll be able to start invoicing for shipping before Halloween.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: Blar on Tue, 23 October 2018, 07:44:40
Great to hear they are soon on their way :)
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: jamesaaronbooks on Fri, 26 October 2018, 13:00:36
Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: johntron25 on Tue, 30 October 2018, 11:43:08
If all goes well I'll be able to start invoicing for shipping before Halloween.


More delays then?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 30 October 2018, 14:54:58
More delays then?

Yeah, there was another small issue with the warehouse, the shipping weight was apparently more than their automated system would let me pay for so I needed to contact them to get it manually priced and paid for. I did that Sunday night and the payment went through without issue, so it's another waiting stage for the time being. In the meantime I've been working on getting the shipping materials lined up so they'll be here and ready the moment the PCBs get to me.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: johntron25 on Tue, 30 October 2018, 20:04:44
More delays then?

Yeah, there was another small issue with the warehouse, the shipping weight was apparently more than their automated system would let me pay for so I needed to contact them to get it manually priced and paid for. I did that Sunday night and the payment went through without issue, so it's another waiting stage for the time being. In the meantime I've been working on getting the shipping materials lined up so they'll be here and ready the moment the PCBs get to me.

I see, no worries. Happy Halloween!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: shyBravado on Wed, 31 October 2018, 11:18:48
I'm in for any potential extras. <3
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting on PCBs
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Wed, 31 October 2018, 11:32:38
I thought this was finished already. I’d be down for extras if they become available.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs finally in transit
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 05 November 2018, 21:05:36
So, after several days of contacting different people and all of them being wonderful for dealing with my english, I finally have tracking for the PCBs headed to me. No estimate on when they'll get to me exactly, but it's better that way imo since it won't be an accidental underestimate. Next update should be unpacking the PCBs and starting some order packing.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs finally in transit
Post by: 8six753o9 on Mon, 05 November 2018, 21:28:56
So, after several days of contacting different people and all of them being wonderful for dealing with my english, I finally have tracking for the PCBs headed to me. No estimate on when they'll get to me exactly, but it's better that way imo since it won't be an accidental underestimate. Next update should be unpacking the PCBs and starting some order packing.

Thanks for the update.  Are the PCBs in the States already or do they still need to travel here and go through customs?  I'm just worried as the Paypal protection ends this month and I know it takes forever for things to get into the States.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs finally in transit
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Mon, 05 November 2018, 21:29:19
(http://rs795.pbsrc.com/albums/yy239/jadis11/Gifs/OMGYAY.gif~c200)

I guess I need to start deciding on which switches I'm gonna use.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs finally in transit
Post by: Blar on Wed, 07 November 2018, 12:36:09

I guess I need to start deciding on which switches I'm gonna use.

I recently went to a keyboard meetup, hands down im going with kailh box jade  :)
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs finally in transit
Post by: _joe_king on Wed, 07 November 2018, 12:37:58
Oooooooh so excited!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs finally in transit
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 07 November 2018, 12:48:54

I guess I need to start deciding on which switches I'm gonna use.

I recently went to a keyboard meetup, hands down im going with kailh box jade  :)

I have some box jades, but I was thinking of using them on a different board...
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs finally in transit
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 13 November 2018, 15:19:56
(https://i.imgur.com/6LN2iLm.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/6LN2iLm.jpg)

PCBs are here, no pics of the black yet cause I haven't gotten that far into the boxes. I'm currently going through them and testing for functionality while waiting for boxes to arrive, then I can begin packing the first of the orders and invoicing for shipping. I'll probably be prioritizing getting the remaining Phantom orders out first so I'm not dealing with as many different things at the same time and therefore less chance of shipping hiccups. 
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: _joe_king on Tue, 13 November 2018, 15:23:28
Whoo! Thanks for the update!

any chance of leftover hipro layers :) :) :)
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: oumakavoula on Tue, 13 November 2018, 15:46:05
that's a great looking pcb  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Tue, 13 November 2018, 15:51:30
**** that looks good!

I mean... Yay ※\(^o^)/※
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: regionfree on Tue, 13 November 2018, 22:33:22
oh man she's gorgeous
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs finally in transit
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 14 November 2018, 00:03:52
(https://i.imgur.com/6LN2iLm.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/6LN2iLm.jpg)

PCBs are here, no pics of the black yet cause I haven't gotten that far into the boxes. I'm currently going through them and testing for functionality while waiting for boxes to arrive, then I can begin packing the first of the orders and invoicing for shipping. I'll probably be prioritizing getting the remaining Phantom orders out first so I'm not dealing with as many different things at the same time and therefore less chance of shipping hiccups.

Honestly I am totally ok with you taking your time. I don't speak for everyone but even if this took till January I be ok with that. Reason I say that is shipping during the Christmas holiday is a PITA at best.. I look forward to this thought. I am excited those PCB's look AMAZING!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: unausgeschlafen on Wed, 14 November 2018, 00:49:38
So pumped!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs finally in transit
Post by: johntron25 on Wed, 14 November 2018, 12:38:59
(https://i.imgur.com/6LN2iLm.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/6LN2iLm.jpg)

PCBs are here, no pics of the black yet cause I haven't gotten that far into the boxes. I'm currently going through them and testing for functionality while waiting for boxes to arrive, then I can begin packing the first of the orders and invoicing for shipping. I'll probably be prioritizing getting the remaining Phantom orders out first so I'm not dealing with as many different things at the same time and therefore less chance of shipping hiccups.

Honestly I am totally ok with you taking your time. I don't speak for everyone but even if this took till January I be ok with that. Reason I say that is shipping during the Christmas holiday is a PITA at best.. I look forward to this thought. I am excited those PCB's look AMAZING!


Yea, thank god you don't speak for all of us.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs finally in transit
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 14 November 2018, 12:43:00
(https://i.imgur.com/6LN2iLm.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/6LN2iLm.jpg)

PCBs are here, no pics of the black yet cause I haven't gotten that far into the boxes. I'm currently going through them and testing for functionality while waiting for boxes to arrive, then I can begin packing the first of the orders and invoicing for shipping. I'll probably be prioritizing getting the remaining Phantom orders out first so I'm not dealing with as many different things at the same time and therefore less chance of shipping hiccups.

Honestly I am totally ok with you taking your time. I don't speak for everyone but even if this took till January I be ok with that. Reason I say that is shipping during the Christmas holiday is a PITA at best.. I look forward to this thought. I am excited those PCB's look AMAZING!


Yea, thank god you don't speak for all of us.

Cause waiting a little longer is the end of the world, which most likely will happen anyway with holiday shipping  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: donutcat on Sat, 17 November 2018, 03:38:11
Well, buckle up kiddos, cause here's the current dealio: I was gonna wait to get further into the process of solving this issue before I even let people know, but I figure I might as well share the current subject of my ire for the sake of clarity and hopefully some understanding. I've got the PCBs on hand and I've been working on going through them between getting Phantom orders shipped, sorting and assembling the stabs for the kits, and dealing with various other things that are all just kicking me in the balls at the same time. As it currently sits, I've made my way through approximately 103 of the PCBs, mostly purple, and this following album is the pictures I've taken of approximately 63 of those PCBs I've looked through:
https://imgur.com/a/XLfP8Ul

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As you can imagine, I'm absolutely ****ing pissed at what I've seen so far, especially the sheer incidence rate of the issues found. When I first dug into the boxes I thought that the packaging was actually pretty good, bundles of 10 PCBs in pairs with plenty of bubble wrap. What I didn't know right then was how putting them in pairs instead of separately in the wrap leads to the throughhole pins on the USB Mini connector to be able to scrape the everloving **** out of the adjacent board, leading to the main issues, though some of the scratches and residue looks like it's an artifact of the manufacturing of the PCB and should have been found before they even left the PCB fab. If whoever packed the boards hadn't been so intent on saving $.20 of bubblewrap per bundle I'm fairly confident that a fair bit of the issues shown in that album would not have been present and many of the boards pictured there would have needed minor cleaning at the most; the fact that all but a couple of the boards have no visual flaws on the back of the PCB reinforce this thought.

Like I mentioned, I'm pretty ****ing upset that this happened, so much that I've pretty much been just in a state between angry and disgust at the problem since I found out about it and been in a **** mood this whole week as a result. I'm planning to look through more of the bundles of PCBs over the weekend between more Phantom orders and working on stabs and see if the trend continues, which at this point it seems quite likely it will. The plan after that is to send a carefully thought out email to the seller explaining the situation in detail, including that album and further pictures that I take, and as tactfully as possible tell them that this is absolutely unacceptable and they need to do something about it. I'm not confident that much might be done, but I am pretty confident in the power of a very large PayPal dispute pointed their direction as a good motivator, if the need arises.

Also due to this, I'm planning on taking a close look at all of the plates over the next week to make sure that they're going to be fine. I've left most of them in their original packaging(keep the dust and cats off of them) after inspecting a small number of each color, but this whole deal has left me nervous about potential issues with any of the components involved and I want to catch anything as soon as possible at this point.

If would oblige me, feedback concerning this situation would be much appreciated since right now I'm still just overwhelmed with being upset about this and could really use some outside thoughts on this. Someone in the discord thought that maybe I was overreacting to some of the issues, particularly concerning the price point I was able to get the PCBs for, and who knows maybe I am. I was pretty much expecting a perfect product to show up and maybe that was too much of me to expect. So far all of the PCBs that I've plugged in to test have taken the firmware update, had their LEDs working, and had random selections of keypresses work just fine as well, aside from one board with a crushed USB connector that I didn't bother to mess with yet, and only one or two have had anything wrong with the back side of the board, all the visual issues have been on the front of the board only for the very vast majority I've seen. 

Please bear with me while I deal with this the best I can, I'm doing my best to make sure everyone receives the product that they deserve and I'm hoping everyone can understand that.

Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: regionfree on Sat, 17 November 2018, 04:15:50
I'm definitely not speaking for everyone who participated.

For me though, as long as the PCB doesn't look like it was half-eaten by a bear and IT'S WORKING, and ports align with the plate and usb cutout, I would be fine with it (the PCB). It's all light superficial issues, based on the pictures.

The case, though, is where I'd be more nit picky, since it affects aesthetics directly.

I've no problem with the wait, and also appreciate going through each of them to check the issues.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: oumakavoula on Sat, 17 November 2018, 04:21:51
same as above
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: Evolken on Sat, 17 November 2018, 08:34:05
For me though, as long as the PCB doesn't look like it was half-eaten by a bear and IT'S WORKING, and ports align with the plate and usb cutout, I would be fine with it (the PCB). It's all light superficial issues, based on the pictures.

The case, though, is where I'd be more nit picky, since it affects aesthetics directly.

I agree. I would appreciate you contacting the vendor and checking your options but I would not be upset about small scratches that aren't visible in the final build. I understand some are worse than others, but most of the issues looked small. The top and bottom plates are more important for surface scratching.

Thanks for your hard work and attention to detail.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: mxgian99 on Sat, 17 November 2018, 09:07:09
just speaking for myself, i would still buy these if you were fairly certain that they still worked.  i was expecting much worse pictures after reading the text first.   

i agree that it's not ideal and super dumb to try and save pennies and risk all these scratches.  from a GB participant perspective, my worry would be if these boards are long term reliable but given the light damage i would think yes and still would take it.  just my two cents.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 17 November 2018, 12:36:05
As long as it works I don’t mind the scratches.  I’ll never see the thing after assembly. 
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: 8six753o9 on Sat, 17 November 2018, 12:52:22
I don’t mind the scratches as long as they pcb works.


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Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: MatchstickMan on Sat, 17 November 2018, 15:43:18
I'm in the same boat as above. The blemishes are disappointing, certainly, but as long as it doesn't affect the function of the board, I can live with it. Especially so that these are mostly on the back of the board.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 17 November 2018, 17:32:18
I'm a little disappointed to see these issues, especially so many pcb's (possibly *all* of them?)

I'm totally okay with living with it as long as you are confident that they work.

And hey, maybe you can get some of the money back, which would just add to the "budget" aspect of this gb ;)

Either way, thank you so much for you transparency and frequent updates!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: shyBravado on Sat, 17 November 2018, 20:31:36
Honestly... I would be totally okay with blemishes as long as everything works. Will there be B-stock extras, by chance?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: HotRoderX on Sun, 18 November 2018, 00:21:56
I been thinking about this all day and my biggest concern is the damage isn't just cosmetic. The pictures some of them look pretty badly damaged and you even mentioned possible issues due to some of the scratches. Thais my big thing, if the board can be proven to just have cosmetic damage then no big deal. The damage is cosmetic only contact the manufacture and try to get a discount on the board's perhaps to pay for shipping or what have ya. The boards functionality is questionable that is another story obviously. Thanks for being so transparent about this entire thing. I know its gotta be frustrating thought I guess we all should have seen this coming as cheap as the manufacture was willing to produce them. At the end of the day I don't really expect a budget product to be cosmetically pretty I just expect it to work.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: notFREEfood on Sun, 18 November 2018, 01:23:57
Ouch.

On one hand I prefer things look good even if they can't be seen, but if those scratches are truly cosmetic I don't think the added delay would be worth it.

Cases and plates are visible, so those are going to be what matters.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: sacklunch on Sun, 18 November 2018, 11:17:51
I could care less about scratches. As long as they work normally I will gladly accept my order.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 18 November 2018, 11:36:16
I figured that most GB runners don’t test every individual switch socket on every PCB.  If that is the case and these scratches are going to cause you to spend a ton of time testing, that seems unfair to you.  If we get boards that we need to fix, it seems unfair to us. Seems like the only way for everyone to win would be replacement boards.  But we could just try our luck and send them out at a discount.  Then we could return boards we find to have issues.  Just rambling now. 
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: johntron25 on Sun, 18 November 2018, 13:38:59
As long as they work 100%, I don't mind those blemishes.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: 112227 on Tue, 20 November 2018, 04:42:38
I probably wouldn't want to take a chance on a scratched up PCB. Functionality could be hanging on by a thread depending on where the scratches are.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 20 November 2018, 16:17:03
Thanks so far for the civil and positive responses, it's a reminder that the community isn't always a mess like it can appear in some current, unspecified GB threads. I've not heard back from the seller yet and am planning to send another email later today, but I'll address some of the comments so far:

 - On all the PCBs I've inspected so far, they do connect to BMC, the firmware flashes successfully, and random switch tests work fine, so for the most part any of the damage does seem just visual.

 - I am planning more comprehensive testing of boards that do have potentially performance-affecting damage, ie the port scrapes crossing the LED trace for LCtrl. I would prefer to not send out boards with this particular issue at all, but I might not have enough boards that don't have it, so at the very least I will be testing it and making any necessary touchups to it to make sure that LED is still functional, which should just be making sure the copper from the ground plane isn't in contact with the trace and covering the bare copper with something to keep shorting from being an issue.
 
 - In the same way, any other scratches I find that look to be deeper than just the surface of the mask I'll be doing comprehensive testing of any portion of the matrices that they cross to determine if they're an issue. So far I think I've only seen maybe one that even reaches the copper other than the port scrapes.

 - Most of them I will be scrubbing scratches/scrapes/residue spots with ISO to try and get rid of as much as I can of what's just visual, so I'm hoping that most will look better than they do now.

Even if I can't guarantee that the top of the PCB will be spotless, I will be guaranteeing that everyone does end up with boards that are 100% functional, or at the very least compensation for any lack of functionality for which I'm hoping that contacting the seller will provide me with even if they're functional.

I do want to point out that I only realized earlier today while going through some of the boards that none of them appear to actually have numlock or capslock leds soldered onto them, which is more disappointing when I have a conversation with the seller specifically about using white instead of green for this. If that's going to be a problem for you let me know and I'll see what I can do about it, even if it means buying some and doing some SMD soldering that I told myself I'd never do again.

I want to thank you again for keeping the thread civil and positive as it's a lot easier on me to deal with than the negativity that I see pop up way too often on some GBs that have some hiccups. It's been a tough year for me and my projects and I don't know where I'd be right now without the understanding and positivity of those that have been willing to support me through the difficulties.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: sacklunch on Tue, 20 November 2018, 16:30:16
If it helps, I will take a pcb without working LEDs. I always disable them on my keyboards anyways. If you end up needing to send some without LEDs, message me and I'll give you my order info.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 23 November 2018, 12:52:57
FWIW, I'm ok with doing trace repair on my three especially if it means they're B-stock.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: ClicksOnLinks on Fri, 23 November 2018, 16:59:01
I don't mind the blemishes. Some looked worse than others but so long as the PCB actually works, or even mostly works, that's all that matters to me. If I have to jump a few traces that's not a problem for me
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: azachhh on Fri, 23 November 2018, 22:07:51
If someone can provide a decent guide to jumping the traces, I don’t mind having to deal with that either. Always up for a new project.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: johntron25 on Mon, 26 November 2018, 15:59:13
Do you know if this issue will be resolved before the year ends? If not,  I need to update my shipping address.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 26 November 2018, 21:59:58
Do you know if this issue will be resolved before the year ends? If not,  I need to update my shipping address.

I would like to say it will be, but I also know that me giving time estimates just hasn't worked out this year. Good news is when you get your shipping invoice you'll be able to change your address right then to what it needs to be for the time.

Edit: I'd also like to point out that as of right now I haven't heard back from the seller yet and I've decided to escalate things with PayPal in hopes of receiving a response.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: Gettys on Fri, 30 November 2018, 16:04:30
The more I look at this the more I want it lol, hope everything gets resolved sooner then later!


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Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: lollipoplouie on Sun, 02 December 2018, 19:29:23
Just saw the news about the blemishes, unfortunate, but super appreciative about being kept in the loop just like everyone else. I too do not care about the blemishes as long as they are functional and don't care about missing capslock and numlock leds either. Just wanted to throw my two cents in, hopefully this doesn't become too much more of an ordeal for you donut, best wishes.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: _joe_king on Mon, 03 December 2018, 08:14:18
Just saw the news about the blemishes, unfortunate, but super appreciative about being kept in the loop just like everyone else. I too do not care about the blemishes as long as they are functional and don't care about missing capslock and numlock leds either. Just wanted to throw my two cents in, hopefully this doesn't become too much more of an ordeal for you donut, best wishes.

1000% this.

Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: johnextremesourcreme on Wed, 05 December 2018, 18:14:53
Just saw the news about the blemishes, unfortunate, but super appreciative about being kept in the loop just like everyone else. I too do not care about the blemishes as long as they are functional and don't care about missing capslock and numlock leds either. Just wanted to throw my two cents in, hopefully this doesn't become too much more of an ordeal for you donut, best wishes.
This, i just need mine to be functional.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: Gettys on Fri, 07 December 2018, 23:59:53
Any news(hopefully good) as of lately? know you’re busy and it’s that time of the year but figured I’d check in to see if there was any new news.


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Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 09 December 2018, 03:22:13
Any news(hopefully good) as of lately? know you’re busy and it’s that time of the year but figured I’d check in to see if there was any new news.


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I've been in touch with PayPal for the dispute process since there's been no communication on the seller's end. Due to the amount and some other details of the original payment it's been a slightly more complicated process than a "normal" dispute, so it's taken a bit longer to get it going. They were supposed to call me back the end of last week to finish starting the dispute but they didn't for some reason, so I'll be getting back ahold of them this coming week to hopefully get it moving. I'm hoping the snowstorm going on here won't interfere with that among other things.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: unausgeschlafen on Sun, 09 December 2018, 05:33:41
Thank you for investing yourself so hard in this. Quite a process this group buy.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: Gettys on Sun, 09 December 2018, 05:34:50
Any news(hopefully good) as of lately? know you’re busy and it’s that time of the year but figured I’d check in to see if there was any new news.


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I've been in touch with PayPal for the dispute process since there's been no communication on the seller's end. Due to the amount and some other details of the original payment it's been a slightly more complicated process than a "normal" dispute, so it's taken a bit longer to get it going. They were supposed to call me back the end of last week to finish starting the dispute but they didn't for some reason, so I'll be getting back ahold of them this coming week to hopefully get it moving. I'm hoping the snowstorm going on here won't interfere with that among other things.

Thanks for the response, still excited for this even with the delays and mishaps.  Hopefully it’ll all come together soon.


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Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: 112227 on Fri, 14 December 2018, 03:13:56
any news within the past week?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: HotRoderX on Fri, 14 December 2018, 11:31:55
any news within the past week?

I doubt we will hear anything back before the New Year, I might be wrong thought. I figured with holiday's Donut is either spending time with family/friends or he is busting butt shipping things. I am sure he will update us as soon as he can thought.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: 112227 on Fri, 14 December 2018, 19:28:46
any news within the past week?

I doubt we will hear anything back before the New Year, I might be wrong thought. I figured with holiday's Donut is either spending time with family/friends or he is busting butt shipping things. I am sure he will update us as soon as he can thought.

 :blank:
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 14 December 2018, 23:41:32
Surprise, you will hear back before then. I'm on a trip this weekend but before I left I managed to talk to a very helpful PayPal rep who go the disputes sorted for me and the process is going right now. I'm hoping that it won't take too long to work out, but there is a 15 day minimum for the seller to respond, so I'm expecting it to take at least that long though there's always a chance for it to move through more quickly.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 14 December 2018, 23:53:01
Thanks for tune update donutcat!

With these delays in going to have to change my shipping address. What's the best way for me to handle that?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: azachhh on Sat, 15 December 2018, 12:34:18
Thanks for tune update donutcat!

With these delays in going to have to change my shipping address. What's the best way for me to handle that?

Same here.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: MatchstickMan on Sat, 15 December 2018, 17:42:20
Thanks for tune update donutcat!

With these delays in going to have to change my shipping address. What's the best way for me to handle that?

+1 on that. I'll be moving at the beginning of next month.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: Evolken on Sun, 16 December 2018, 17:43:04
Looking to sell my spot in the group buy. Decided to go with a different board/layout. Purple PCB, black plates, normal middle (not high profile), and GMK stabs. Confirmed with DonutCat that we can move order/invoice to the new person officially (not double ship items from me to you). Original invoice total: $90.50. PM me with offers.

Edit: Willing to drop to $80

Shipping cost is invoiced at the time of shipping ~$15 for US.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: johnextremesourcreme on Mon, 17 December 2018, 08:55:28
Surprise, you will hear back before then. I'm on a trip this weekend but before I left I managed to talk to a very helpful PayPal rep who go the disputes sorted for me and the process is going right now. I'm hoping that it won't take too long to work out, but there is a 15 day minimum for the seller to respond, so I'm expecting it to take at least that long though there's always a chance for it to move through more quickly.
great news!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: johntron25 on Wed, 26 December 2018, 12:14:20
Any new updates with Paypal issue? It's been 12 days since the last update.

What is the plan? even if you win the Paypal dispute does that mean we are stuck with the PCBs?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 28 December 2018, 20:14:24
Any new updates with Paypal issue? It's been 12 days since the last update.

What is the plan? even if you win the Paypal dispute does that mean we are stuck with the PCBs?

Having to put a little bit more fight into the dispute. PayPal had actually straight denied it at one point, but after spending yesterday talking to a few more reps it seems that was a mistake on their end. The dispute is back open, I've been asked for some more information that I'm putting together, and we're still currently in the waiting phase. As for "the plan", if the dispute is successful then we're still stuck with the PCBs, which as I mentioned I'll be verifying full functionality, cleaning up, and applying needed fixes, but I'm planning a good partial refund for everyone that got a PCB that I'll most likely apply to the shipping costs for ease of application.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: ryanh on Sat, 29 December 2018, 14:34:07
That's great, thanks for the update.  Hopefully you're not worrying to much about this over the holidays!  Everyone needs a break and I'm sure these PCBs have caused you more than your fair share of stress.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: _joe_king on Sat, 29 December 2018, 19:29:30
That's great, thanks for the update.  Hopefully you're not worrying to much about this over the holidays!  Everyone needs a break and I'm sure these PCBs have caused you more than your fair share of stress.

+1. Shtuff happens and it will all work out in the end.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 03 January 2019, 19:52:42
I have an order I'd be willing to sell.

Green plate
Purple PCB

Order total: 98 USD.

PM with offers
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - PCBs Here!
Post by: Overchecken8 on Sun, 06 January 2019, 14:42:55
Looking to sell my spot.

1  x $93.00
1 Purple PCB, White Plates, 1 Case Kit, 1 GMK Stab Set
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: azachhh on Tue, 08 January 2019, 19:58:28
Looking to sell my order for $175. PM offers.
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Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: 112227 on Wed, 09 January 2019, 17:15:05
anyone actually getting interest on selling your spots?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Gettys on Sun, 13 January 2019, 17:11:54
Have we heard anything from PayPal? Just curious since it’s been a minute from the last update.


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Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: johntron25 on Mon, 14 January 2019, 19:32:16
It's been awhile since the most recent update. Will we receive our keyboards before the start of Game of Thrones new  season?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 15 January 2019, 16:55:46
Sorry for no updates, nothing in the situation has changed currently. PayPal is still waiting out the "response period" for the seller before they're willing to move on the dispute.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Gettys on Tue, 15 January 2019, 16:57:31
Sorry for no updates, nothing in the situation has changed currently. PayPal is still waiting out the "response period" for the seller before they're willing to move on the dispute.
Have you made any decisions about the worst case scenario? Just wondering while we wait if there’s any plan b.  Thanks for the update!


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Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: johntron25 on Tue, 15 January 2019, 17:20:14
Sorry for no updates, nothing in the situation has changed currently. PayPal is still waiting out the "response period" for the seller before they're willing to move on the dispute.

how much longer for the wait period to be over?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 16 January 2019, 18:42:08

how much longer for the wait period to be over?

Technically the seller has until Feb 21st to respond, though PayPal does have an "estimated resolution date" of tomorrow on the dispute pages, so I'll see what happens there.



Have you made any decisions about the worst case scenario? Just wondering while we wait if there’s any plan b.  Thanks for the update!


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The absolute worst case at this point in time is that the disputes get denied and I have to ship everyone their complete orders without the partial refund that I want to be able to give. I'd still be working on each of the orders to make sure everything is functional and that no one gets any of the boards that have the most severe issues. I'd also like to point out at this time that awhile back I went through the plates while dealing with the PCB disputes, and some of the plates do have minor visual defects, enough that I then started a dispute with JLCPCB since this is the second batch that I've received with this issue, particularly after being reassured it wouldn't happen again. This dispute is a lot less complicated than the PCB ones are and it's been long enough since it was opened that I anticipate it being resolved possibly before the PCBs, and I'm intending to use the funds as partial refunds to make up for the visual flaws.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: lollipoplouie on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:24:38
Man, wish this wasn't such an ordeal for you donutcat.... Thank you for your transparency with everything however, and thank you for going through the effort to try and get a partial refund and making sure we are sent quality products. I am sure by the end of all this I will still have a board that I am very  happy with. =)
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: MatchstickMan on Thu, 17 January 2019, 08:25:11
Yeah, echoing lollipoplouie's sentiment, thank you for being so transparent about this group buy that should probably be renamed to the Murphy'sLaw96 by this point. :P
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: johntron25 on Thu, 17 January 2019, 13:19:49

how much longer for the wait period to be over?

Technically the seller has until Feb 21st to respond, though PayPal does have an "estimated resolution date" of tomorrow on the dispute pages, so I'll see what happens there.





Have you made any decisions about the worst case scenario? Just wondering while we wait if there’s any plan b.  Thanks for the update!


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The absolute worst case at this point in time is that the disputes get denied and I have to ship everyone their complete orders without the partial refund that I want to be able to give. I'd still be working on each of the orders to make sure everything is functional and that no one gets any of the boards that have the most severe issues. I'd also like to point out at this time that awhile back I went through the plates while dealing with the PCB disputes, and some of the plates do have minor visual defects, enough that I then started a dispute with JLCPCB since this is the second batch that I've received with this issue, particularly after being reassured it wouldn't happen again. This dispute is a lot less complicated than the PCB ones are and it's been long enough since it was opened that I anticipate it being resolved possibly before the PCBs, and I'm intending to use the funds as partial refunds to make up for the visual flaws.

Thank you for going the extra mile by trying to get us partial refund! Happy Newyear!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: ryanh on Fri, 18 January 2019, 09:35:30
Yeah, echoing lollipoplouie's sentiment, thank you for being so transparent about this group buy that should probably be renamed to the Murphy'sLaw96 by this point. :P

I second, or third or whatever at this point, these sentiments.  This is actually working out well for me at this point because I was going to have to get the board shipped to my dad in California, but I'll be moved by the time this is all resolved, so I can just get it shipped straight to me!

Also, please consider this an enthusiastic second on the name Murphy'sLaw96!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 20 January 2019, 07:45:32
Yeah, echoing lollipoplouie's sentiment, thank you for being so transparent about this group buy that should probably be renamed to the Murphy'sLaw96 by this point. :P

I second, or third or whatever at this point, these sentiments.  This is actually working out well for me at this point because I was going to have to get the board shipped to my dad in California, but I'll be moved by the time this is all resolved, so I can just get it shipped straight to me!

Also, please consider this an enthusiastic second on the name Murphy'sLaw96!

Same here, I'm also in the middle of a move and was going to have this shipped to my parents house. And I love the idea of renaming this to Murphy'sLaw96!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: 112227 on Thu, 31 January 2019, 03:01:40
so current plan is to wait til 2/21?

Is that to see if they agree to remake/reimburse for PCBs?
I would believe it's highly unlikely they will choose to remake the PCBs. Have they responded at any point of the dispute?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: 112227 on Tue, 05 February 2019, 17:21:10
WTS $50

Budget96 GB
1 Black PCB, Black Plates, 1 Case Kit, 1 Hipro Layer, 1 GMK Stab Set
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 06 February 2019, 02:45:12
donut do you have any current updates for us? I know you said it could take till the 21st but was curious if anything happened.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: ryanh on Fri, 08 February 2019, 09:17:53
Sent you a pm

WTS $50

Budget96 GB
1 Black PCB, Black Plates, 1 Case Kit, 1 Hipro Layer, 1 GMK Stab Set
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 11 February 2019, 16:14:11
donut do you have any current updates for us? I know you said it could take till the 21st but was curious if anything happened.

Nothing on the PCBs currently, the disputes are still marked as "Under Review". There was a little notification that there was an update on the 5th, but nothing has changed on them so I think it's just someone looked at the dispute to see if there was any changes on either side.

There is some "good" news, depending on how you look at it, on the plates dispute, which was resolved mostly in my favor. So using the available funds from that dispute, any order that included plates will be receiving a 15% refund on them applied to their shipping invoice for the cosmetic issues, and I'll be going through the same process of cherry-picking through them to make sure no one gets the worst of them.

On a somewhat unrelated note, I've been toying around with the idea of a sticker to go with the kits that's like "I survived Murphy's-Law-96 and all I got was this lousy sticker" or something like that.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 11 February 2019, 16:54:04
Really looking forward to the board.  When it's winter I really prefer plastic cases.  Oh hell, who am I kidding.  I always prefer plastic cases :)
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: lollipoplouie on Tue, 12 February 2019, 01:11:26
donut do you have any current updates for us? I know you said it could take till the 21st but was curious if anything happened.

Nothing on the PCBs currently, the disputes are still marked as "Under Review". There was a little notification that there was an update on the 5th, but nothing has changed on them so I think it's just someone looked at the dispute to see if there was any changes on either side.

There is some "good" news, depending on how you look at it, on the plates dispute, which was resolved mostly in my favor. So using the available funds from that dispute, any order that included plates will be receiving a 15% refund on them applied to their shipping invoice for the cosmetic issues, and I'll be going through the same process of cherry-picking through them to make sure no one gets the worst of them.

On a somewhat unrelated note, I've been toying around with the idea of a sticker to go with the kits that's like "I survived Murphy's-Law-96 and all I got was this lousy sticker" or something like that.
Hey at least one of the disputes is handled, haha! Also, I am in full support of the sticker idea!

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Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: HotRoderX on Tue, 12 February 2019, 03:12:12
donut do you have any current updates for us? I know you said it could take till the 21st but was curious if anything happened.

Nothing on the PCBs currently, the disputes are still marked as "Under Review". There was a little notification that there was an update on the 5th, but nothing has changed on them so I think it's just someone looked at the dispute to see if there was any changes on either side.

There is some "good" news, depending on how you look at it, on the plates dispute, which was resolved mostly in my favor. So using the available funds from that dispute, any order that included plates will be receiving a 15% refund on them applied to their shipping invoice for the cosmetic issues, and I'll be going through the same process of cherry-picking through them to make sure no one gets the worst of them.

On a somewhat unrelated note, I've been toying around with the idea of a sticker to go with the kits that's like "I survived Murphy's-Law-96 and all I got was this lousy sticker" or something like that.

Sounds really good to me and I like the idea of the sticker! I starting to think 96 kits are cursed. I yet to see one go thought that didn't have some type of problem with the manufacture.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: johntron25 on Tue, 12 February 2019, 12:22:07
9 more days until Paypal dispute is complete....
I sure hope our orders are boxed and ready to be shipped...
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 12 February 2019, 15:11:16
Well, got an update sooner than anticipated, and it's unfortunately not as good as I was hoping for. PayPal's wanting me to find a "qualified expert" to look at the PCBs and tell them the same thing I told them and even showed them in the pictures I included in with the dispute information, because apparently it takes an "expert" to tell them that all the PCBs are at minimum visually defective and potentially functionally defective. I guess now I'll be looking for someone that meets their requirements for an "expert" and go from there. One day things will go as they should, but I guess I won't count on it being any time soon.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 12 February 2019, 16:23:48
Get ai03 or hiney... Someone that has a shop and sells pcbs
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: notFREEfood on Tue, 12 February 2019, 16:53:43
On a somewhat unrelated note, I've been toying around with the idea of a sticker to go with the kits that's like "I survived Murphy's-Law-96 and all I got was this lousy sticker" or something like that.

Knowing how everything has gone so far, is tempting fate really such a good idea?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 12 February 2019, 16:55:12
Well, got an update sooner than anticipated, and it's unfortunately not as good as I was hoping for. PayPal's wanting me to find a "qualified expert" to look at the PCBs and tell them the same thing I told them and even showed them in the pictures I included in with the dispute information, because apparently it takes an "expert" to tell them that all the PCBs are at minimum visually defective and potentially functionally defective. I guess now I'll be looking for someone that meets their requirements for an "expert" and go from there. One day things will go as they should, but I guess I won't count on it being any time soon.

Lame.  It definitely sounds like 1 of 2 possible things.  Either the manuf. is telling them the PCBs are fine, or someone at paypal is too lazy to actually look at the photos. 
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: HotRoderX on Tue, 12 February 2019, 18:27:07
Well, got an update sooner than anticipated, and it's unfortunately not as good as I was hoping for. PayPal's wanting me to find a "qualified expert" to look at the PCBs and tell them the same thing I told them and even showed them in the pictures I included in with the dispute information, because apparently it takes an "expert" to tell them that all the PCBs are at minimum visually defective and potentially functionally defective. I guess now I'll be looking for someone that meets their requirements for an "expert" and go from there. One day things will go as they should, but I guess I won't count on it being any time soon.

Perhaps I am mistaken but Donut wouldn't you count as a expert? I mean you run a shop that sells components and have't you designed a PCB. I mean if that doesn't make you expert I don't know what does. I also agree its either manufacture trying to weasel there way out or paypal being lazy, my money is on paypal being lazy.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 12 February 2019, 21:36:57
Perhaps I am mistaken but Donut wouldn't you count as a expert? I mean you run a shop that sells components and have't you designed a PCB. I mean if that doesn't make you expert I don't know what does. I also agree its either manufacture trying to weasel there way out or paypal being lazy, my money is on paypal being lazy.

Having not made it more than a few semesters into ECE, not only do I not have the official credentials they're asking for, but my opinion would likely be too biased for their liking seeing as I'm involved.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 13 February 2019, 00:47:23
Perhaps I am mistaken but Donut wouldn't you count as a expert? I mean you run a shop that sells components and have't you designed a PCB. I mean if that doesn't make you expert I don't know what does. I also agree its either manufacture trying to weasel there way out or paypal being lazy, my money is on paypal being lazy.

Having not made it more than a few semesters into ECE, not only do I not have the official credentials they're asking for, but my opinion would likely be too biased for their liking seeing as I'm involved.

Makes since and is total BS its on you as the customer to prove that its not correct specially since your showing them a damaged product. 
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: eyeball on Sun, 17 February 2019, 17:42:14
I see some people selling these. How does that work? The person paypals you and donut switches your order to the buyer? Looking to get out of this one if I can.

1 Black PCB, Black Plates, 1 Case Kit, 1 Hipro Layer, 1 GMK Stab Set
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: ryanh on Tue, 19 February 2019, 09:45:26
I see some people selling these. How does that work? The person paypals you and donut switches your order to the buyer? Looking to get out of this one if I can.

1 Black PCB, Black Plates, 1 Case Kit, 1 Hipro Layer, 1 GMK Stab Set

I bought another user's spot, and that's basically it.  Work out getting payment between the two users, then you both message donut to confirm.  He'll get things moved over on his end.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: tanvir175 on Tue, 19 February 2019, 16:38:17
I don't need these anymore, either. Selling the board they were gonna be replacements for.

I have 1x matte black and 1x purple pcb. Contact me here or on discord tanvir175#0001
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: eyeball on Sat, 23 February 2019, 08:18:13
1 Black PCB, Black Plates, 1 Case Kit, 1 Hipro Layer, 1 GMK Stab Set


$80

$70 if you pay by bitcoin
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Blar on Tue, 26 February 2019, 09:50:55
Does anyone have any information if at all, what types of hot swap sockets would be compatible with the PCB.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Gettys on Tue, 26 February 2019, 16:22:55
So...what’s the word? Any news or updates good or bad?


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Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Blar on Thu, 28 February 2019, 07:56:14
So...what’s the word? Any news or updates good or bad?

As far as I can understand, donutcat is trying to to come in contact with someone with the credentials to tell paypal that "ya its pretty messed up."
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: tanvir175 on Sat, 02 March 2019, 12:21:40
I think this was mentioned way before but, just to clarify, these are entirely cosmetic issues right? Have you tested the PCB's yet to check if they work?

Cause honestly, if it works, I'd rather just have them now so I can list them on mm.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Gettys on Sat, 02 March 2019, 13:15:43
I think this was mentioned way before but, just to clarify, these are entirely cosmetic issues right? Have you tested the PCB's yet to check if they work?

Cause honestly, if it works, I'd rather just have them now so I can list them on mm.
Yeah, he stated most seemed like cosmetic scratches and the likes but was going to test them all to make sure they worked and only send out ones that do vs  not checking and hoping.  I’m just curious as to what the time frame for these will be because we’re rounding the corner on a year sooner then later now.


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Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Doonagoowin on Mon, 04 March 2019, 18:59:06
Looking to sell my spot.

1 Purple PCB, Red Plates, 1 Case Kit, 1 Hipro Layer, 3 GMK Stab Sets. $142

I can buy the 2 extra stab sets from you later on if don't need them.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Ruckistherare on Tue, 05 March 2019, 15:52:46
Looking to sell my spot as well.

1 Black PCB, Black Plates, 1 Case Kit, 1 Hipro Layer, 1 GMK Stab Set
$133.50

Contact me on here or for better results, on discord (ruckistherare#0500)
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: HotRoderX on Tue, 05 March 2019, 15:58:25
Guys not to point out the obvious but yea.. if this keeps up he most likely going to have to deny people. I am sure its a lot of work for him to refund someone then setup a new invoice not to mention doesn't he lose the fees? Also as many people are looking to sell at this point there a good chance the market is over saturated and the few people that did want to buy already got the deals they wanted. I think at this point its best to just way and see what happens.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: 112227 on Tue, 05 March 2019, 16:16:23
If this is true, I would expect an overwhelming majority of people asking for their invoices to be refreshed to regain paypal protection. I would already advise this.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: 8six753o9 on Tue, 05 March 2019, 16:22:53
I'm at a point that I rather have the item shipped to me than having my invoices refreshed.  I don't get why we have to wait for the result of the PayPal claim.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Gettys on Tue, 05 March 2019, 18:18:44
I'm at a point that I rather have the item shipped to me than having my invoices refreshed.  I don't get why we have to wait for the result of the PayPal claim.
This is where I’m at with it now.  I’m not upset just rather confused to what’s going on with how everything’s gonna be handled.  I get the dispute but that’s over now, and there’s been no updates as to who he’ll get or when or what.   I originally got into this gb to play around with the board especially with how fast the turn around was supposed to be.


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Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: digiNZM on Wed, 06 March 2019, 05:08:05
I signed up on GH a year ago just to join this GB and i still think everything will work out fine. Also at this point i'd just like to have the item shipped - otherwise regaining paypal protection would be a nice thing but if this causes fees or a massive workload i could live without it. Some updated timeline would be nice.

Also, if anyone has a hipro layer to sell feel free to message me.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: eyeball on Sat, 09 March 2019, 07:57:59
Almost a month with no updates.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Gettys on Sat, 09 March 2019, 11:27:29
Seems to be the trend with this


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Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Ruckistherare on Mon, 11 March 2019, 08:33:59
I guess I'm not the majority, but I'm actually at the point where it's been almost a year and my tastes in this hobby have changed. I no longer want an acrylic 96-key board. I'd prefer to just get a refund and not have to worry about selling my spot or selling the kit after I receive it. After such a long delay, I think it would only be fair for the folks who want to get a refund, do so. I know Donut is in a tough situation, but similar to how mechkeys handled the espectro, the people who wanted out, got out and he sold the extras.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 11 March 2019, 11:42:46
I guess I'm not the majority, but I'm actually at the point where it's been almost a year and my tastes in this hobby have changed. I no longer want an acrylic 96-key board. I'd prefer to just get a refund and not have to worry about selling my spot or selling the kit after I receive it. After such a long delay, I think it would only be fair for the folks who want to get a refund, do so. I know Donut is in a tough situation, but similar to how mechkeys handled the espectro, the people who wanted out, got out and he sold the extras.

This. Would be interested if donut is willing.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Gettys on Mon, 11 March 2019, 11:45:45
I guess I'm not the majority, but I'm actually at the point where it's been almost a year and my tastes in this hobby have changed. I no longer want an acrylic 96-key board. I'd prefer to just get a refund and not have to worry about selling my spot or selling the kit after I receive it. After such a long delay, I think it would only be fair for the folks who want to get a refund, do so. I know Donut is in a tough situation, but similar to how mechkeys handled the espectro, the people who wanted out, got out and he sold the extras.

This. Would be interested if donut is willing.
At this point I’d go with either.  I originally bought this to play BFA since all I own are 60%.  Stopped playing the game months ago and still without this board lol.


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Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: HotRoderX on Mon, 11 March 2019, 12:07:46
I guess I'm not the majority, but I'm actually at the point where it's been almost a year and my tastes in this hobby have changed. I no longer want an acrylic 96-key board. I'd prefer to just get a refund and not have to worry about selling my spot or selling the kit after I receive it. After such a long delay, I think it would only be fair for the folks who want to get a refund, do so. I know Donut is in a tough situation, but similar to how mechkeys handled the espectro, the people who wanted out, got out and he sold the extras.


Don't think you fully followed that drama, at first yes he allowed people a refund sorta. Instead of a straight refund he offered to sell theirs on the website then refund them once it sold. That turned into he got upset and just decided to send everyone the board and they could sell on mechmarket after two days, if they didn't want it. Which turned ugly from there. That entire drop was terrible and ended extremely poorly. I know personally I still have no base for my Espectro and no extra PCB that I paid for. I gave up trying as he had no intention of sending either. I was pretty upset when seen him running another IC and people signing up for it. Funny thing is Espectro was suppose to be his last project since it went so horrible.  This new project he IC and did a Group buy for is now his final project. I would put money the next project he does will be his final project also. We were warned that speaking up in public about Espectro would mean getting our orders forgotten. He posted that on his discord then deleted it shortly after. I guess he figured it cause to much negative backlash.

As far as this goes I am cutting Donut some slack for the simple fact he been working on another group buy. He was doing the coiled cable group buy that went kinda wonky if I am not mistaken. I do agree we been waiting a while but I don't see a refund as a possibility. Refunding everyone or even those that wish to be refunded would most likely cost him to much out of pocket, it might would even bankrupt his company. I don't think that will be happening honestly.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Overchecken8 on Mon, 11 March 2019, 12:30:42
I guess I'm not the majority, but I'm actually at the point where it's been almost a year and my tastes in this hobby have changed. I no longer want an acrylic 96-key board. I'd prefer to just get a refund and not have to worry about selling my spot or selling the kit after I receive it. After such a long delay, I think it would only be fair for the folks who want to get a refund, do so. I know Donut is in a tough situation, but similar to how mechkeys handled the espectro, the people who wanted out, got out and he sold the extras.
I completely agree with this. Very interested to hear from Donut
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Ruckistherare on Sun, 17 March 2019, 18:27:04
I guess I'm not the majority, but I'm actually at the point where it's been almost a year and my tastes in this hobby have changed. I no longer want an acrylic 96-key board. I'd prefer to just get a refund and not have to worry about selling my spot or selling the kit after I receive it. After such a long delay, I think it would only be fair for the folks who want to get a refund, do so. I know Donut is in a tough situation, but similar to how mechkeys handled the espectro, the people who wanted out, got out and he sold the extras.


Don't think you fully followed that drama, at first yes he allowed people a refund sorta. Instead of a straight refund he offered to sell theirs on the website then refund them once it sold. That turned into he got upset and just decided to send everyone the board and they could sell on mechmarket after two days, if they didn't want it. Which turned ugly from there. That entire drop was terrible and ended extremely poorly. I know personally I still have no base for my Espectro and no extra PCB that I paid for. I gave up trying as he had no intention of sending either. I was pretty upset when seen him running another IC and people signing up for it. Funny thing is Espectro was suppose to be his last project since it went so horrible.  This new project he IC and did a Group buy for is now his final project. I would put money the next project he does will be his final project also. We were warned that speaking up in public about Espectro would mean getting our orders forgotten. He posted that on his discord then deleted it shortly after. I guess he figured it cause to much negative backlash.

As far as this goes I am cutting Donut some slack for the simple fact he been working on another group buy. He was doing the coiled cable group buy that went kinda wonky if I am not mistaken. I do agree we been waiting a while but I don't see a refund as a possibility. Refunding everyone or even those that wish to be refunded would most likely cost him to much out of pocket, it might would even bankrupt his company. I don't think that will be happening honestly.


I did not fully follow the drama, because for the longest time I actually forgot about this. I don't use geekhack all too often and I haven't gotten an e-mail or anything, I don't blame him for not posting publicly, but I wouldn't know about this 'drama' if I didn't check here over 6 months later. I had to actually google my way here and this is my first time using my geekhack account.

I totally get that we're in a group buy and run a risk. This is similar to crowdfunding, but a little different. I just thought no one had suggested it a refund instead of sale, and was curious to hear about the possibility. It's a hassle for both ends right now, for sure, it's not fair to either end, if someone wants out. I just really doubt I'll even be able to sell this at cost on MM, so someone is losing money. I just think he has a platform to sell them with an established audience, I don't. So donut is definitely more likely to successfully sell extras. Now, I'm not saying any of this is exactly how I expect it to go, and if it doesn't go that way, I don't blame him. It's an extremely tough situation, but I thought it was worth bringing up at this point.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: tanvir175 on Sun, 17 March 2019, 22:50:57
Donut, the last time you responded in this thread was Feb 12.
You have made several posts on other threads, since then, the last one being on March 12th.
As of writing this post, the last time you have been active was, today, March 17th.
It's pretty annoying that you can't take a minute or two to comment on a hanging GB thread with questions/requests for updates.
If there's nothing to update, say that. It takes less than a minute and lets people know **** is still happening. It's not rocket science, dude.

I will ask once again. I don't need the details. Just reply with a "yes" or "no" to these questions.
1) Are the damages to the PCB's ONLY cosmetic?
2) Have you tested the PCB's to all be fully working?
Again, a simple yes or no will suffice. I don't care about anything else.

Finally, it's been nearly a year since this GB started. I can't file a claim on you even if I wanted to. Whether or not the answers to my previous questions are a yes or no, just send me my damn pcb's or give me a refund and continue your paypal dispute with the rest of them.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 18 March 2019, 19:23:49
First up, I'd like to apologize for having not responded for awhile. Aside from all the **** going on with PayPal around this issue and some others, as well as a few personal things happening, it looks like I was unsubscribed from the thread for some reason. I haven't been actively looking around GH for a month or so now(and I've not been on Reddit, Keebtalk, or the Discord for about that same amount of time either), and only really been getting on to answer PMs and a couple posts that I did get notifications for. So with the thread not actively on my mind I didn't think to go looking to see if there were responses I wasn't being notified of and someone actually had to message me that people were asking for me in here.

As it sits, PayPal is still being a pain in the ass about all of this. Technically this is the third time the dispute's been denied, with both these past two times being because they want me to submit documentation but don't give me a way to do so. For example, they want me to upload the docs to their message center, except business accounts haven't had a link to the message center since at least July 2015 from what I looked up, fun times. I'll have to call them *again* and hope I get one of the useful reps that deal with the PayPal debit card instead of the mostly un-useful normal PayPal reps, like the ones that kept sending me automated emails when I told them I was unable to access the message center.

The plan is currently, I'm tired of waiting on PayPal to do the ****. Originally I was instructed that I had to keep the items in question on hand for the duration of the dispute, which is the main reason I haven't been willing to ship yet. I'm going to ignore that at this point because it doesn't matter anymore, and I'll begin working on getting kits shipped out this week. When/if the actual dispute is accepted then I'll be able to process the partial refunds for the PCBs.

Because of PayPal's ****ery, my business PayPal is currently unusable, yay. Instead I'll be using my personal account to handle invoicing for shipping, so you may not get the invoice from my normal PayPal email though I'll be trying to set it up to do that. I'll note this in the invoices, but please make sure your shipping address is up to date in PayPal *before* you pay the invoice since that's what I'll be shipping to.

At this time I can't really refund orders because A) my PayPal's ****ed as previously stated, and B) I have nowhere near enough money to be able to refund everyone and it would be unfair to offer refunds to however many people it takes to drain my bank account, which would then affect my ability to ship orders.

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1) Are the damages to the PCB's ONLY cosmetic?
2) Have you tested the PCB's to all be fully working?

There's no good "yes or no" to this.
1) Mostly - *Most* of the damage is cosmetic, though there is a notable number where it has the potential to or actively does affect function.
2) Not all of them have been tested - A decent chunk I went through and at minimum plugged them in and they were recognized by windows and BMC and were able to take a firmware update.
As mentioned previously, I'll be thoroughly testing each PCB as they are packed so everyone gets a functional PCB.


I think I've answered the main questions that I've seen, if there's something I missed let me know, I think my notifications should be back working again but I'll keep an eye out just in case. I am sorry this worked out the way it did, I'm tired of everything that's been happening with this and I'm really hoping it'll be finished up before too much longer. I will be looking to actively seek out possible alternatives to going through PayPal in the future since the main reason I used them was for their protections, protections that have failed me, this GB, and everyone involved so far.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 19 March 2019, 00:09:54
Thanks for the update bud. Hang in there, and F PayPal for dragging you thru the mud.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 20 March 2019, 08:30:40
Did you ever get an expert? What were the details of certifications required? If you put that info out here, we can try and find someone. I occasionally work with a 3D printing company who has all kinds of certified engineers. They work with PCBs and all kinds of interesting electronics and might be able to help.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: tanvir175 on Wed, 20 March 2019, 11:42:56
I think I've answered the main questions that I've seen, if there's something I missed let me know, I think my notifications should be back working again but I'll keep an eye out just in case. I am sorry this worked out the way it did, I'm tired of everything that's been happening with this and I'm really hoping it'll be finished up before too much longer. I will be looking to actively seek out possible alternatives to going through PayPal in the future since the main reason I used them was for their protections, protections that have failed me, this GB, and everyone involved so far.

Thanks for the update, Donut.

Btw, since you're an ECE student, have you considered asking a professor in your department?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: ClicksOnLinks on Fri, 22 March 2019, 16:51:06
At this point I don't even care anymore. just ship me my board... If it's broken I will fix it
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 24 March 2019, 15:24:03
Orders 000-012 are ready to go out, including -001 which happened because Excel plx. One of those is still waiting for payment to print the label. Turns out that packing these orders and getting them invoiced took a total of about 11 hours, technically a little more since I had this set of boxes folded beforehand. I've got some stuff fixed up that should speed that up a little bit, but it is still a pretty time intensive process of:

 - folding boxes and half taping them for packing
 - digging through boxes of pieces to put together an order,
 - re-picking PCBs or plates if the first ones I grab are too bad,
 - testing the PCBs and doing some repair on the PCB if need be
 - assembling the case, which is a bit tricky and requires a specific process going from completely unassembled
 - packing the PCB inside the case and packing the case in the box for shipment
 - add stabs that were assembled with the washers beforehand and the bumpons
 - weighing the fully packed boxes and recording that
 - going through each of the original invoices and using that to calculate shipping cost for each order
 - throwing the numbers into a batch file with the original order info for paypal to turn into invoices
 - at least once a week throwing everything in a car and hopping over to the post office

Just letting people know what exactly goes into packing the orders so they don't think it's just throwing everything in a box and yeeting it at the mail box. I'm aiming at trying to get around 25 orders packed a week if I can, but I am limited for the amount of space I have for orders to sit between packing, waiting for shipping, etc and the amount of time I have. This isn't the best time of year to have stuff on a schedule since I still have tax stuff that needs to be finished in like 3 weeks here, so that will most likely slow me down a little among other obligations.

Also now that they're going out, I remembered I need to talk about assembling it:

 - All cases come already assembled with the PCB packed inside them since that's the best way to ship them.

 - For the lowpro case I recommend removing the top screws only to take it apart. The middles have the standoff holes a wee bit tapered due to the nature of laser cutting, so the bottom screws will keep the middle layer held in place and the standoffs lined up for the most part.

 - For the hipro case, you want to remove the bottom screws only. The hipro layer has the standoffs anchored to it and should retain both the top plate and the mid layer. Even if the mid layer comes off, leaving the top screws alone will leave the standoffs still keyed correctly to fit into the middle layer holes.

 - DO NOT OVERTIGHTEN THE SCREWS

 - Forreal, it's unnecessary to tighten the screws any more than lightly snug, and cranking down on them will cause them to force their way through the FR4 and potentially impact the ability to hold the plate in place. That's unfortunately the weakness of the design trying to keep the screws reasonably low profile without the ability to properly countersink the plates. In the future if I ever recover from this GB enough to try another board, I'll likely look into a fab that can give me the countersunk holes.

 - If you're one of the people that ordered extras plates, the easiest way to swap them is one side at a time. So far it's been my experience that assembly from the fully disassembled point is a little tricky, again due to the design of the plates not being optimal.



Thanks for the update, Donut.

Btw, since you're an ECE student, have you considered asking a professor in your department?

I haven't been a student since early-mid 2017, and not an ECE since early 2014 or technically never depending on who you ask. School was a bit of a trip.

Regardless, I have the docs they asked for turned in, now it's another waiting game. For anyone interested in how much of a cluster**** PayPal *really* is, you can't email to ask them anything or you'll just get automated responses. I was told in an email to submit documents via two methods that were inaccessible, one of which is because since *at least* July 2015 PayPal has not given business accounts a method to access the "Message Center". I know this because I found a thread from July 2015 complaining that it was not accessible, same as it is in March 2015. When I tried to respond to their emails to tell them I had no way to do what they wanted, I just got automated emails twice before they cancelled my appeal *again*. I had to call them *again*, get the dispute reopened for appeal, and then talk to someone to help get the stuff uploaded. *Apparently* the way for business accounts to upload stuff is to to paypal.com/confirmcard :/ Like they actually just are so jank they have you use their system for having your card reactivated to submit important documentation. Meanwhile personal accounts can still access the message center. Like, I have no words for how ****ed their entire system is. I really am at this point considering what I'd have to do to never use PayPal for my store ever again because of how ****ing **** this entire experience has been. I'm still absolutely ****ing floored that they can't read the ****ing descriptions on an album of high res pictures of repeated ****ups and be like "oh, there are *70* images of this product being clearly damaged, the seller should be responsible for this." It's obvious that they care more about protecting their potential business investments in high rollers more than they do someone who depends on them to pay their bills. If you're just someone buying something then you're probably fine as you're probably a one time issue, but if you're a small business prepare to not be worth the change covered in lint in their pockets. They'll protect a consumer over you, and they'll protect a Chinese manu over you, and it'll be a **** experience the entire time and thereafter. I will at least say that the support people specific to the debit card seem a fare bit more competent than the normies.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: nasp on Sun, 24 March 2019, 18:21:32
Oh boy. PayPal can be quite sh****. It's easy to take advantage of their "protections" if you're a dishonest person/entity. I'm sure we've all experienced horror stories from PayPal. There has to be a better alternative.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: notFREEfood on Wed, 27 March 2019, 19:43:33
Mail day!

(https://imgur.com/2eg4IRD.jpg)

Not sure exactly what I'm going to use for this in terms of switches, but I'm leaning towards v2 zealios to make this the no-so-budget96
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: MatchstickMan on Wed, 27 March 2019, 19:45:58
Mail day!

Not sure exactly what I'm going to use for this in terms of switches, but I'm leaning towards v2 zealios to make this the no-so-budget96

You lucky mother-brother! Can't wait for mine!

I've planned to outfit mine with some heavy Zilencios, so I'm right there with ya.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: notFREEfood on Wed, 27 March 2019, 23:39:28
While my kit came in looking good despite the horror stories we've been hearing, unfortunately my board didn't come in perfect working order :(

It seems that the diode on my 'i' key wasn't soldered well enough, and even though it appears there is a connection between the solder pad and the diode, that is not the case.  Fortunately it's an easy fix.

Always check your boards folks.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Thu, 28 March 2019, 18:29:47
Yay! Shipment has started!  :D

How do I know what number I am?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: donutcat on Thu, 28 March 2019, 18:52:44
Yay! Shipment has started!  :D

How do I know what number I am?

Shipping order is based off of original invoice number. At this point in time, I have up to 029 invoiced and ready to go out with tomorrow's batch if paid by then, so almost a quarter of the orders.

Based off some initial feedback, I'll need to be adjusting how I'm doing some of the packaging. So far I've managed to go back and repackage everything that hasn't yet shipped that was affected. This will slow me down a wee bit since part of the improved process is a good bit more time consuming than previously. I do still expect at least 20 orders out a week barring any other complications.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 29 March 2019, 11:24:45
Slightly unfortunate news: For the time being, I'm holding the current batch I have ready to ship and waiting to pack more batches until I hear back from the previous batch of orders. I've had two people so far bring an issue to my attention that I'm wanting to be sure I'm completely preventing before I move forward. If you've received an order, please contact me to let me know if it arrived fine.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: johntron25 on Sat, 30 March 2019, 03:06:57
Top:  Kira96
Bottom: Budget96
I really like how the bugdet96 supports 5 1u keys to the right or the spacebar. Overall, dope keeb, super pleased!
(https://i.imgur.com/liwzoPj.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 03 April 2019, 13:44:42
Sorry for another small lapse in communication, currently I've been dealing with a recurring foot injury since around Saturday night with no signs of it letting up. At good times I have to hobble around my room putting minimal weight on my foot, at bad times all I can do is sit and concentrate on breathing while contemplating the benefits of cutting my foot off. Hopefully this will ease up before the end of the week and I can try getting some orders out.

As it sits, a little bit of good-ish news, a little bit of bad. Bad news first: PayPal gave a final denial on the disputes, refusing to deal with them further and leaving my business account in the red. This does mean I have no funds for my intended partial refunds for the PCBs, but at least I can still continue on shipping orders through my personal account. For the good-ish news, no one else has contacted me to report an issue with their orders, and looking at the information for the two orders that were in question, they were processed through the same facilities for part of their journey, so I believe it may be coincidence and handling that they experienced the issues that they did. Regardless, I'll still be packaging orders using the "updated" method in order to still minimize future issues.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 03 April 2019, 14:48:36
I bet u stepped on a loose switch. Those kill. Nice to see weregetting stuff soon.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: MatchstickMan on Wed, 03 April 2019, 15:59:58
Sucks about the PayPal bit, but at least there's closure on that, if nothing else...

Glad to hear that they're working their way out the door!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: merlin64 on Fri, 05 April 2019, 07:54:03
Hey all, if anyone's interested in trying out QMK for this board, we got it in!

https://config.qmk.fm/#/donutcables/budget96/LAYOUT_96_ansi
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Lbibass on Fri, 05 April 2019, 08:17:31
I wasn't a part of this GB, but MAN that sucks. I am really sorry about everything that went down with you and paypal.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 05 April 2019, 17:10:53
Hey all, if anyone's interested in trying out QMK for this board, we got it in!

https://config.qmk.fm/#/donutcables/budget96/LAYOUT_96_ansi

Awesome, man. I’ll be running qmk with some soy sauce lubed holy mint pandas
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: LogicBomb on Sat, 06 April 2019, 10:34:50
This was a fun build!

-Vintage MX Blacks
-Cherry Doubleshot
-Originative CMYW

Just need to get a 1u Windows or Cherry key for bottom left.

Thanks Donut!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Overchecken8 on Tue, 09 April 2019, 00:13:51
Sorry for another small lapse in communication, currently I've been dealing with a recurring foot injury since around Saturday night with no signs of it letting up. At good times I have to hobble around my room putting minimal weight on my foot, at bad times all I can do is sit and concentrate on breathing while contemplating the benefits of cutting my foot off. Hopefully this will ease up before the end of the week and I can try getting some orders out.

As it sits, a little bit of good-ish news, a little bit of bad. Bad news first: PayPal gave a final denial on the disputes, refusing to deal with them further and leaving my business account in the red. This does mean I have no funds for my intended partial refunds for the PCBs, but at least I can still continue on shipping orders through my personal account. For the good-ish news, no one else has contacted me to report an issue with their orders, and looking at the information for the two orders that were in question, they were processed through the same facilities for part of their journey, so I believe it may be coincidence and handling that they experienced the issues that they did. Regardless, I'll still be packaging orders using the "updated" method in order to still minimize future issues.
Does this mean those of us that paid our shipping invoice and still haven’t received any shipping info will be receiving that soon?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 09 April 2019, 12:05:11
Does this mean those of us that paid our shipping invoice and still haven’t received any shipping info will be receiving that soon?

Yes, they're just going out in slightly smaller batches for the time being to make sure I've got the issue nailed down. Soon as I see that this previous batch encountered no issues I can get the rest sitting here out and then move to packing new ones once I can stand long enough to pack them.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 09 April 2019, 14:41:12
is there any way someone can spill the beans on what issues are going on in shipping? :O
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: severin on Wed, 10 April 2019, 16:07:25
i'm really happy this is moving forward. i guess EU orders will be invoiced/shipped after the US ones?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: bowlerjosh on Thu, 18 April 2019, 14:55:41
Any update on the next batch to be shipped out?
Looking forward to getting mine soon as my other board is currently borked so I'm using someone's old magiforce.  I really need my hako trues back!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: avalancheattack on Sun, 21 April 2019, 02:11:00
Hey I'm seeing a lot of comments about paying the shipping invoice? I've never received anything like that. I just looked up my invoice from last June and the shipping cost was listed as zero (I must have missed that shipping would be paid later?) Anyway, should I have that already or are those also going out in batches? It looks like I was order 80 if that means anything
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 21 April 2019, 14:38:19
Sorry for the small lapse in communication, not a lot been going on at my end. Been dealing with my foot the past couple weeks and not being able to do much other than stay off of it as much as possible which kept me from being able to handle all the bits for packing orders. As my foot no longer resembles a "potato shoved in a sock" as my brother put it, I've been up and walking around a bit though stairs are still a bit of a challenge, so I'm hoping to get back to packing orders this week with a bit of help.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: pepo2181 on Sat, 27 April 2019, 22:37:20
I wasn't around when the group buy opened, but I was interested since I saw this post.  If  by any chance there are extras  available, or someone is selling, send me a message. I would prefer the base kit with black or white plates, and pcb could be any color.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: jamesaaronbooks on Tue, 30 April 2019, 11:20:47
Got my kit and it looks great. Thanks for persevering through all this Donutcat!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: magicmike on Wed, 01 May 2019, 08:13:00
Wondering when the next batch of orders are going out?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: 8six753o9 on Wed, 01 May 2019, 09:53:19
Oh man I forgot to say "Happy Anniversary" yesterday to everyone that still haven't received their boards. 


(That includes me) :(
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: ryanh on Thu, 02 May 2019, 14:38:00
Oh man I forgot to say "Happy Anniversary" yesterday to everyone that still haven't received their boards. 


(That includes me) :(

Thanks Jenny.  Someone should wish you a Happy Anniversary as well, so here it is:

Happy Anniversary
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: SYRE on Fri, 03 May 2019, 17:58:51
I wasn't around when the group buy opened, but I was interested since I saw this post.  If  by any chance there are extras  available, or someone is selling, send me a message. I would prefer the base kit with black or white plates, and pcb could be any color.

I have this 1 Black PCB, Black Plates, 1 Case Kit, 2 GMK Stab Sets ordered. But I haven't heard anything for months and months and I have enough keyboards as it is. It's yours if you want it. I paid $103.5 for it, it's yours for an even $100. I don't really know how to do this, but maybe donutcat can help us?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Neodeus on Mon, 06 May 2019, 12:30:08
Missed a cheap 96 /cry
I hope this gets run again!!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 06 May 2019, 13:33:18
Missed a cheap 96 /cry
I hope this gets run again!!

There are probably a lot of people who want to trade their spots if you scroll up. Donut will change the shipping address if the person you're swapping asks nicely, then you and the seller work out the paypal separately.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 06 May 2019, 15:39:19
Since this is coming up I'll post this again for people to see.

If you find someone to buy your spot, I need the following information pm'd/emailed to me:
From the spot owner: Order number, order PayPal email, PayPal email and username(if applicable) of the buyer, confirmation that they've paid for the switchover
From the spot buyer: Order number confirmation, PayPal email and username(if applicable) of the seller, confirmation you've paid

Once I have this information from both sides I can move the order to the buyer and they'll be invoiced for shipping when I get to the order.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: regionfree on Mon, 06 May 2019, 22:42:35
My kit just arrived! Thanks Mr. Donut dude sir!  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: MatchstickMan on Wed, 08 May 2019, 11:31:16
Just got my invoice yesterday, can't wait!!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Muammar on Thu, 09 May 2019, 06:34:06
Hello sir, this kit 96 available  ?
can i buy for my first custom dude
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Blar on Thu, 09 May 2019, 09:43:23
Just got my invoice yesterday, can't wait!!

May I ask, what was your invoice number, so I can get an idea on when to expect mine :)
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: MatchstickMan on Thu, 09 May 2019, 13:09:32
May I ask, what was your invoice number, so I can get an idea on when to expect mine :)

Looks like mine was US052.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: johnextremesourcreme on Fri, 10 May 2019, 12:55:37
have any of the eu kits gone out yet?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: MatchstickMan on Tue, 14 May 2019, 12:48:07
Mine arrived yesterday. It'll still be a couple days before I can start building though.

Thanks, donutcat, it looks great with the purple pcb!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Ruckistherare on Tue, 14 May 2019, 13:42:56
I'm still looking to sell mine, Frosted mid and hi-pro layers. I tested it and every contact+underglow works. If anyone wants to buy message me on discord (ruckistherare#0500) or on reddit (u/monkeyking6789), or here. I'm just looking to get my money back, nothing more.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: _joe_king on Mon, 20 May 2019, 08:38:16
Invoiced today :) :) :) any spare hi-pro laying around? Cant wait!!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Tue, 21 May 2019, 19:04:04
So excited that I finally got my board! Thanks donutcat  :thumb:

However, I'm having trouble figuring out what keymap is currently loaded on here. It's not the on in the QMK repo because Fn + Esc is not bringing me into reset.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/blob/master/keyboards/donutcables/budget96/keymaps/default/keymap.c

Does anyone have any clue what the keymap is that's currently loaded on the pcb's?

From what I can tell so far:
Fn + Space = RGB_MOD
Fn + F1 = Vol Down
Fn + F2 = mute
Fn + F3 = Vol Up
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: superuser41 on Tue, 21 May 2019, 19:34:20
So excited that I finally got my board! Thanks donutcat  :thumb:

However, I'm having trouble figuring out what keymap is currently loaded on here. It's not the on in the QMK repo because Fn + Esc is not bringing me into reset.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/blob/master/keyboards/donutcables/budget96/keymaps/default/keymap.c

Does anyone have any clue what the keymap is that's currently loaded on the pcb's?

From what I can tell so far:
Fn + Space = RGB_MOD
Fn + F1 = Vol Down
Fn + F2 = mute
Fn + F3 = Vol Up

The PCB is running bootmapper by default so use the bootmapper client to configure it unless you'd like to flash it to QMK.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Tue, 21 May 2019, 19:37:09
So excited that I finally got my board! Thanks donutcat  :thumb:

However, I'm having trouble figuring out what keymap is currently loaded on here. It's not the on in the QMK repo because Fn + Esc is not bringing me into reset.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/blob/master/keyboards/donutcables/budget96/keymaps/default/keymap.c

Does anyone have any clue what the keymap is that's currently loaded on the pcb's?

From what I can tell so far:
Fn + Space = RGB_MOD
Fn + F1 = Vol Down
Fn + F2 = mute
Fn + F3 = Vol Up

The PCB is running bootmapper by default so use the bootmapper client to configure it unless you'd like to flash it to QMK.

Ah, thank you. I'll give that a look.

I'd prefer to flash it to qmk, assuming what's in the repo is functional. Any idea how to get it into reset mode?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: superuser41 on Tue, 21 May 2019, 19:42:17
So excited that I finally got my board! Thanks donutcat  :thumb:

However, I'm having trouble figuring out what keymap is currently loaded on here. It's not the on in the QMK repo because Fn + Esc is not bringing me into reset.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/blob/master/keyboards/donutcables/budget96/keymaps/default/keymap.c

Does anyone have any clue what the keymap is that's currently loaded on the pcb's?

From what I can tell so far:
Fn + Space = RGB_MOD
Fn + F1 = Vol Down
Fn + F2 = mute
Fn + F3 = Vol Up

The PCB is running bootmapper by default so use the bootmapper client to configure it unless you'd like to flash it to QMK.

Ah, thank you. I'll give that a look.

I'd prefer to flash it to qmk, assuming what's in the repo is functional. Any idea how to get it into reset mode?

For bootmapper's bootloader, you need to hold the key at row 0 & column 0 while plugging the board in. On this PCB, that key is left control. If the board is running bootmapper you can also hit 'set bootloader' in the client (but once you flash to QMK you would need to use the first method, a RESET keycode in your QMK keymap, boot magic, command mode, etc.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: superuser41 on Tue, 21 May 2019, 19:49:53
So excited that I finally got my board! Thanks donutcat  :thumb:

However, I'm having trouble figuring out what keymap is currently loaded on here. It's not the on in the QMK repo because Fn + Esc is not bringing me into reset.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/blob/master/keyboards/donutcables/budget96/keymaps/default/keymap.c

Does anyone have any clue what the keymap is that's currently loaded on the pcb's?

From what I can tell so far:
Fn + Space = RGB_MOD
Fn + F1 = Vol Down
Fn + F2 = mute
Fn + F3 = Vol Up

The PCB is running bootmapper by default so use the bootmapper client to configure it unless you'd like to flash it to QMK.

Ah, thank you. I'll give that a look.

I'd prefer to flash it to qmk, assuming what's in the repo is functional. Any idea how to get it into reset mode?

Also be aware additional work will be necessary for the RGB underglow and the in-switch backlighting to work properly for this board in QMK. If you care about those features you may want to wait before flashing.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 22 May 2019, 15:43:23
So excited that I finally got my board! Thanks donutcat  :thumb:

However, I'm having trouble figuring out what keymap is currently loaded on here. It's not the on in the QMK repo because Fn + Esc is not bringing me into reset.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/blob/master/keyboards/donutcables/budget96/keymaps/default/keymap.c

Does anyone have any clue what the keymap is that's currently loaded on the pcb's?

From what I can tell so far:
Fn + Space = RGB_MOD
Fn + F1 = Vol Down
Fn + F2 = mute
Fn + F3 = Vol Up

The PCB is running bootmapper by default so use the bootmapper client to configure it unless you'd like to flash it to QMK.

Ah, thank you. I'll give that a look.

I'd prefer to flash it to qmk, assuming what's in the repo is functional. Any idea how to get it into reset mode?

Also be aware additional work will be necessary for the RGB underglow and the in-switch backlighting to work properly for this board in QMK. If you care about those features you may want to wait before flashing.

Thanks for letting me know. I'd really prefer to get QMK running instead of bootmapper.

Have you loaded QMK onto yours? Or do you know what other changes are necessary to get the RGB and backlighting working?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: merlin64 on Wed, 22 May 2019, 15:54:43
RGB should work right now, you just can't change the modes. I'll be putting the changes in to fix it when I find the motivation to lol. It's been on my todo list.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Ephemeral on Sat, 25 May 2019, 12:30:17
Can anyone tell me the size of the screws used? Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: donutcat on Sat, 25 May 2019, 15:07:13
Can anyone tell me the size of the screws used? Thanks!

The short ones are M3x6mm, the long ones are M3x12mm, both "phillips flat head" and you want a head diameter of greater than 5.4mm to hold well in the plates.

Other news, pending a few unpaid invoices I'm looking to finish up the US orders this coming week. After that I'll be able to move to the Canada, EU, and smattering of other countries' orders.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: pepo2181 on Sat, 25 May 2019, 15:25:08
Thanks for the news, the spot I bought in the invoice says CA, I assume Canada, so that awesome news.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: donutcat on Sat, 25 May 2019, 17:26:16
Thanks for the news, the spot I bought in the invoice says CA, I assume Canada, so that awesome news.

Yes, unless you already had a spot and were buying a second one the order you bought goes out based on the original spot number, for the sake of organization and making sure orders go out when and where they need to.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 27 May 2019, 10:48:26
yay
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: lordchompybits on Mon, 27 May 2019, 12:47:21
Other news, pending a few unpaid invoices I'm looking to finish up the US orders this coming week. After that I'll be able to move to the Canada, EU, and smattering of other countries' orders.

Does this mean that I should have received an invoice for shipping already, because I have not. Invoice #:B96-US091

Edit: Just got it, thanks DonutCat
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: portbaron on Mon, 27 May 2019, 21:16:54
Built up the hi-pro, working well. Never used bootmapper before, but I figured it out.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: woodruff on Tue, 28 May 2019, 04:43:38
this is nice, please with the next gb consider a tkl
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: sacklunch on Tue, 28 May 2019, 17:03:20
Cool board! Here is mine with GMK Camping:

https://imgur.com/a/ZhZukON

(https://imgur.com/pe0jjoi)
(https://imgur.com/oSLDFCJ)
(https://imgur.com/DFNoqOg)
(https://imgur.com/I8JALpZ)
(https://imgur.com/L0Lhcw8)
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 28 May 2019, 18:28:33
Got mine. Have to decide what switches to use. Might do gateron yellow with yellow leds and yolch
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 03 June 2019, 09:27:34
Built up the hi-pro, working well. Never used bootmapper before, but I figured it out.

If you're more familiar with QMK, this board is also in QMK =)
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 04 June 2019, 00:12:43
Update time: Pending a few unpaid invoices, all US orders have been shipped. Right now I'm working on starting all international orders, some of which are direct shipped and some which will be proxied, so I'm needing to get everything setup for those conditions before sending them out.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: pepo2181 on Tue, 04 June 2019, 06:45:36
Thanks for the news!!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 05 June 2019, 09:29:21
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: sacklunch on Fri, 07 June 2019, 13:07:22
Can anyone help me with QMK toolbox? I went to the website and made my custom map, but in toolbox the device isn't showing up. It doesn't matter if I hold left control when plugging in the board, though if I do hold down left control the keyboard doesn't work and the RGB turns off, so I assume it's doing something right; but it still doesn't show up in toolbox.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Waiting for PayPal to do stuff
Post by: donutcat on Sat, 08 June 2019, 15:33:37
Can anyone help me with QMK toolbox? I went to the website and made my custom map, but in toolbox the device isn't showing up. It doesn't matter if I hold left control when plugging in the board, though if I do hold down left control the keyboard doesn't work and the RGB turns off, so I assume it's doing something right; but it still doesn't show up in toolbox.

You probably need to do your first flash through BootMapperClient for toolbox to "see" the board since it's not the usual QMK chip. That's as easy as going to the "Options" tab in BMC and hitting "Firm Up" then selecting your QMK hex, no need to even manually put it in bootloader since BMC handles that automatically.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Final few orders going out soon™
Post by: oxinai on Mon, 10 June 2019, 15:39:14
Will it work with the Toolbox? The readme (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/blob/master/keyboards/donutcables/budget96/readme.md) in the QMK docs for this board suggests you need to use HIDBootFlash to flash, if the Bootmapper method doesn't work for you.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Final few orders going out soon™
Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 10 June 2019, 16:20:46
Both the instructions donut cat has laid out and what is laid out in the readme file will work.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Final few orders going out soon™
Post by: severin on Thu, 20 June 2019, 11:18:26
Has anyones EU-Order been invoiced / shipped yet?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Final few orders going out soon™
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 20 June 2019, 12:25:39
I still haven’t built mine yet.  Might do lubed cherry nature whites. Anyone have a favorite switch for this board yet?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Final few orders going out soon™
Post by: donutcat on Thu, 20 June 2019, 13:24:21
Has anyones EU-Order been invoiced / shipped yet?

I'm still in the process of getting those all together and doing a little troubleshooting on the best way to get them over the pond in one piece.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Final few orders going out soon™
Post by: pepo2181 on Thu, 20 June 2019, 13:37:13
I still haven’t built mine yet.  Might do lubed cherry nature whites. Anyone have a favorite switch for this board yet?
I was considering using the everglide jade green switches, but after a watching a review of them, I  might consider using box royals instead.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Final few orders going out soon™
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 26 June 2019, 22:27:57
got mine today seems fine ty
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Final few orders going out soon™
Post by: johnextremesourcreme on Mon, 01 July 2019, 15:52:34
Has anyones EU-Order been invoiced / shipped yet?

I'm still in the process of getting those all together and doing a little troubleshooting on the best way to get them over the pond in one piece.
Any updates?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Final few orders going out soon™
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 02 July 2019, 00:26:08
Has anyones EU-Order been invoiced / shipped yet?

I'm still in the process of getting those all together and doing a little troubleshooting on the best way to get them over the pond in one piece.
Any updates?

I'm hoping to have an email out to the EU orders this week about the invoices. The main thing right now is I'm trying to figure out the best shipping situation between an insured bulk shipment and individual shipments. I've never done a bulk intl shipment with as much in product as this would be, and trying to understand all the details and exceptions in USPS's intl shipping insurance policies has been a confusing process, but one that I need to figure out to know what the best option for the situation is.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Please pay your shipping invoices
Post by: donutcat on Thu, 11 July 2019, 10:47:07
Status time:

 - US orders - All are packed, most are shipped, waiting for 3 unpaid shipping invoices. If you don't have your order, please check your PayPal. These unpaid invoices are from mid-May :/

 - Non-EU intl orders - All packed, last one going out today

 - EU proxy order - All packed and ready to ship to the proxy, Mechboards.co.uk, just waiting on 3 more of the orders to be paid.

 - Replacement middles - For those of you that contacted me for one I've got these ready to go out today. Luckily it was very few overall that broke because there's actually no extras left at all, not even for my personal builds ironically.


I'll be waiting until the EU order goes out, hopefully by this weekend, and then I'll start working on organizing extras. Seeing as there's no middles or tops left I'll be converting leftover kits to skeleton-style cases via thiccboi standoffs and probably dub them the "budget-est-96". What I'll probably do is have the "good" quality plates(of which there are few) near the GB prices and then offer the gross amount of "not good" quality plates at reduced cost for people looking for cheap still perfectly usable plates for projects and whatnot. Potentially you could knock the soldermask off of them to get a bare copper surface from the slabs of copper on them, idk if that's a thing easily done. There's PCBs too, most of them in the same condition as the GB items with a few "rejects" that I'll try to repair or sell discounted as "project grade".

One thing for sure, after so much of this I'll be so much happier to be in a less stressful position with these.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Please pay your shipping invoices
Post by: oumakavoula on Sun, 04 August 2019, 12:23:08
any updates ?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Please pay your shipping invoices
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 05 August 2019, 10:12:18
any updates ?

EU orders are going from me to Mechboards at the moment. You should see an email from them to confirm your information within a few days of their arrival.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Please pay your shipping invoices
Post by: EMC Labs on Tue, 06 August 2019, 02:11:02
any updates ?

EU orders are going from me to Mechboards at the moment. You should see an email from them to confirm your information within a few days of their arrival.

Will the form open when extras are available?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Please pay your shipping invoices
Post by: unausgeschlafen on Mon, 19 August 2019, 01:49:30
any updates ?

EU orders are going from me to Mechboards at the moment. You should see an email from them to confirm your information within a few days of their arrival.

It is two weeks since the last update.  Are there any news, yet? 
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Please pay your shipping invoices
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 19 August 2019, 12:21:19
Sorry for the wait, wanted to make sure the EU order was moving well before I did anything with the extras. As it's currently sitting in UK customs, I'm comfortable enough opening up extrass:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdOE5YipBg2fSm-qkyk-ftqqUK7iVgxk63rxzhLt7xkRfbRcw/viewform

Been through it a couple times and I think everything makes sense and says what it needs to. Back to Google forms for the time being because of PayPal.

Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Thu, 29 August 2019, 05:29:29
Just a bump that extras are available since it seems like no-one got the memo.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: EMC Labs on Thu, 29 August 2019, 07:14:43
Just a bump that extras are available since it seems like no-one got the memo.

Thank you!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: kmfmppl on Sat, 31 August 2019, 12:47:13
I wondered what the status is on EU orders, haven't heard from mechboards. Did the boards clear customs yet? Looking forward to be building this!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 01 September 2019, 03:15:25
I wondered what the status is on EU orders, haven't heard from mechboards. Did the boards clear customs yet? Looking forward to be building this!

They should be in the process of being sorted and prepared for "local" shipment this coming week, so keep an eye out for emails from David for shipping info confirmation.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: Benitone on Sun, 01 September 2019, 04:09:59
Really nice. I hope that in the future you'll run a similar group buy for tkl or 100% keyboards (maybe compatible with the existing pcbs so you'll save some work).

Can you share with us who cut the case for you o do you intend to run other GBs in the future?

thanks
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 01 September 2019, 04:53:08
Really nice. I hope that in the future you'll run a similar group buy for tkl or 100% keyboards (maybe compatible with the existing pcbs so you'll save some work).

Can you share with us who cut the case for you o do you intend to run other GBs in the future?

thanks

J0limon was the acrylic parts and did the design work for the plate files. I'm 100% considering sticking with him for future case needs with how well working with him went. The plates were cut from JLCPCB, which is where the issues with them came from.

I do plan on doing more boards in the future, not sure yet what exactly the plan is though. I may looking into other plate materials like carbon fiber that I can have cut in the US to manage one of the weak points that showed up with this board.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: norb on Sun, 01 September 2019, 06:50:49
Just a bump that extras are available since it seems like no-one got the memo.

are the extras also shipped over the UK if i order from europe?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: Benitone on Sun, 01 September 2019, 10:27:24
Really nice. I hope that in the future you'll run a similar group buy for tkl or 100% keyboards (maybe compatible with the existing pcbs so you'll save some work).

Can you share with us who cut the case for you o do you intend to run other GBs in the future?

thanks

J0limon was the acrylic parts and did the design work for the plate files. I'm 100% considering sticking with him for future case needs with how well working with him went. The plates were cut from JLCPCB, which is where the issues with them came from.

I do plan on doing more boards in the future, not sure yet what exactly the plan is though. I may looking into other plate materials like carbon fiber that I can have cut in the US to manage one of the weak points that showed up with this board.

thanks, I hope to see a tkl soon
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 01 September 2019, 18:26:27
Just a bump that extras are available since it seems like no-one got the memo.

are the extras also shipped over the UK if i order from europe?

Mechboards has a small number of extras that will probably be up sometime after GB orders are processed. Outside of those, extras orders would have to come from me.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: supernova on Mon, 02 September 2019, 03:42:07
it's nice!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: kmfmppl on Tue, 03 September 2019, 03:36:14
I wondered what the status is on EU orders, haven't heard from mechboards. Did the boards clear customs yet? Looking forward to be building this!

They should be in the process of being sorted and prepared for "local" shipment this coming week, so keep an eye out for emails from David for shipping info confirmation.

Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: Daggerfall on Tue, 03 September 2019, 06:22:23
I'd really like one of these, will be keeping my eye out.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Sun, 08 September 2019, 13:51:07
Does anything special need to be done to get the Caps Lock/Numpad Indicators to work? I see that there is two pads on the top side of the PCB next to these switches... but I am dumb.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 08 September 2019, 18:07:03
Does anything special need to be done to get the Caps Lock/Numpad Indicators to work? I see that there is two pads on the top side of the PCB next to these switches... but I am dumb.

LEDs would need to be soldered there and then it's just enabled them in BootMapper. Based on my measuring it looks like you should be able to use any SMD LED 3.5mm or shorter in those spots.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 14 September 2019, 17:15:58
Hey sir!  I saw the new storefront and the budget96 options.  If I buy a skeleton plate set, I realize it doesn’t come with acrylic like the original group buy. I have a budget96 with a high pro top.  Will the new plate sets work with the original board? Or are the holes different?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Sat, 14 September 2019, 17:50:11
Hey sir!  I saw the new storefront and the budget96 options.  If I buy a skeleton plate set, I realize it doesn’t come with acrylic like the original group buy. I have a budget96 with a high pro top.  Will the new plate sets work with the original board? Or are the holes different?

Yes the plates are still the same from the GB, the kits are just using wider standoffs to hold the plates since there's no middle. They can be swapped onto one of the GB boards no issue.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Sat, 14 September 2019, 21:39:33
Realized I should make a post since the link changed.

Extras can now be found at https://donutcables.com/products/budget96-extras
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: sickleboom on Sun, 15 September 2019, 23:25:04
Any guide to help flash the pcb with qmk? :P
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 16 September 2019, 00:10:44
Any guide to help flash the pcb with qmk? :P

The initial flash is simple, just using the "firmware up" function of BootMapper to put the QMK hex on there. After that you have to hold Esc and LCtrl while plugging the board in to put it into the bootloader to flash it. Alternatively, there are slightly different instructions at https://config.qmk.fm/#/donutcables/budget96/LAYOUT_96_ansi.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: Mechboards on Mon, 16 September 2019, 06:04:03
Hey all,

All paid invoices will be going out tomorrow. 2 are still pending and these won't be sent until the PayPal invoice has been paid.

Thanks

David
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: woodruff on Wed, 18 September 2019, 10:23:39
We need a budgetTKL now :D
And then possibly an option for a cnc case too.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: unausgeschlafen on Wed, 18 September 2019, 11:29:32
Hey all,

All paid invoices will be going out tomorrow. 2 are still pending and these won't be sent until the PayPal invoice has been paid.

Thanks

David

Hi David,

thanks for the update, it is much appreciated.
Will you give out tracking numbers?
(I completely understand if that is too much hassle, given you are proxying for free)

Cheers,
unausgeschlafen
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: unausgeschlafen on Fri, 20 September 2019, 13:42:36
After 1.5 years, it came ... in pieces.. :(
@donutcat: May you provide CAD files for the middle layer so I may order prints if my fiancée it bothered too much?
It is her first groupbuy experience / custom build, after all.

 [attach=1]
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 20 September 2019, 16:02:15
After 1.5 years, it came ... in pieces.. :(
@donutcat: May you provide CAD files for the middle layer so I may order prints if my fiancée it bothered too much?
It is her first groupbuy experience / custom build, after all.

  (Attachment Link)

Ah ****, I thought I had packed them in a way that would stop that. The single thick acrylic pieces *really* didn't deal with stress well; reminds me of some of my college years. PM me your order number.

Been meaning to upload these anyhow, here's the files for the:

Top plate - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1O_0vtXqQVyGjkwTsrirsKjUcJ_XLEIt9
Bottom plate - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1EzAcR4wp8cdp9ib897bsHYkDsnwWCFFL
Middle layer - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WakVNZqeFnk3mf8d5VHm-F9fkvlTZKdJ

Plates are dxf and the middle is an svg prepped for laser cutting with the middle slices being 9mm nominal. I don't have the hipro file on hand, but I can either bug Jolimon for it or remake it in f360. At some point I should make these available on the github for the board that way they're more readily accessible.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: unausgeschlafen on Fri, 20 September 2019, 16:09:58
After 1.5 years, it came ... in pieces.. :(
@donutcat: May you provide CAD files for the middle layer so I may order prints if my fiancée it bothered too much?
It is her first groupbuy experience / custom build, after all.

  (Attachment Link)

Ah ****, I thought I had packed them in a way that would stop that. The single thick acrylic pieces *really* didn't deal with stress well; reminds me of some of my college years. PM me your order number.

Been meaning to upload these anyhow, here's the files for the:

Top plate - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1O_0vtXqQVyGjkwTsrirsKjUcJ_XLEIt9
Bottom plate - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1EzAcR4wp8cdp9ib897bsHYkDsnwWCFFL
Middle layer - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WakVNZqeFnk3mf8d5VHm-F9fkvlTZKdJ

Plates are dxf and the middle is an svg prepped for laser cutting with the middle slices being 9mm nominal. I don't have the hipro file on hand, but I can either bug Jolimon for it or remake it in f360. At some point I should make these available on the github for the board that way they're more readily accessible.

Thanks, awesome!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: digiNZM on Tue, 24 September 2019, 06:24:29
Finally arrived here too! Quite nice build! Sadly i had the same broken acrylic layer - but david said he'd help me out there.  ;D
QMK running sweet on this PCB. As mentioned previously RGB mode-switching is not working. So has anyone a working-rgb config for QMK already and is willing to share or hint me to a path for getting it working? Can i take a look at another qmk-keep which would have a working implementation of this, for example the singa? Thanks for any input!

Edit: nevermind - got it working in QMK (ツ)

Thanks donutcat & david
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: Mechboards on Tue, 24 September 2019, 08:09:20
Any EU Proxy acrylics that are broken - please find me on Discord and message me. I'll do a run of acrylic this side. https://discord.gg/mkW6X9
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 24 September 2019, 13:32:15
Finally arrived here too! Quite nice build! Sadly i had the same broken acrylic layer - but david said he'd help me out there.  ;D
QMK running sweet on this PCB. As mentioned previously RGB mode-switching is not working. So has anyone a working-rgb config for QMK already and is willing to share or hint me to a path for getting it working? Can i take a look at another qmk-keep which would have a working implementation of this, for example the singa? Thanks for any input!

Edit: nevermind - got it working in QMK (ツ)

Thanks donutcat & david

Care to share your RGB qmk finds with us?  I haven't moved mine to QMK yet, but I plan to.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: digiNZM on Tue, 24 September 2019, 14:06:31
Finally arrived here too! Quite nice build! Sadly i had the same broken acrylic layer - but david said he'd help me out there.  ;D
QMK running sweet on this PCB. As mentioned previously RGB mode-switching is not working. So has anyone a working-rgb config for QMK already and is willing to share or hint me to a path for getting it working? Can i take a look at another qmk-keep which would have a working implementation of this, for example the singa? Thanks for any input!

Edit: nevermind - got it working in QMK (ツ)

Thanks donutcat & david

Care to share your RGB qmk finds with us?  I haven't moved mine to QMK yet, but I plan to.

I try my best and hope this is of any use for you: https://github.com/dieideeistgut/qmk_budget96

With this RGB Controls are working fine for me. Aswell as all my other stuffy.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: merlin64 on Fri, 27 September 2019, 13:14:32
Finally arrived here too! Quite nice build! Sadly i had the same broken acrylic layer - but david said he'd help me out there.  ;D
QMK running sweet on this PCB. As mentioned previously RGB mode-switching is not working. So has anyone a working-rgb config for QMK already and is willing to share or hint me to a path for getting it working? Can i take a look at another qmk-keep which would have a working implementation of this, for example the singa? Thanks for any input!

Edit: nevermind - got it working in QMK (ツ)

Thanks donutcat & david

Care to share your RGB qmk finds with us?  I haven't moved mine to QMK yet, but I plan to.

I try my best and hope this is of any use for you: https://github.com/dieideeistgut/qmk_budget96

With this RGB Controls are working fine for me. Aswell as all my other stuffy.

Yes we haven't ported over the change to every Bootmapper Client board. Im curious why this was not submitted to QMK so that others could benefit. I'll be building my b96 pretty soon too.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: unausgeschlafen on Mon, 30 September 2019, 02:21:21
Any EU Proxy acrylics that are broken - please find me on Discord and message me. I'll do a run of acrylic this side. https://discord.gg/mkW6X9

The links appears to be invalid.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: digiNZM on Mon, 30 September 2019, 14:27:58
Im curious why this was not submitted to QMK so that others could benefit. I'll be building my b96 pretty soon too.

Its now merged in QMK. Happy building your b96!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 30 September 2019, 16:11:51
Im curious why this was not submitted to QMK so that others could benefit. I'll be building my b96 pretty soon too.

Its now merged in QMK. Happy building your b96!

Woop woop!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: draecas on Fri, 04 October 2019, 15:56:40
I'm having some issues with my board and I'm curious if anyone has any ideas.

When I plug my board in, I get a very, very short RGB fiash, then the keyboard goes dead. It then will remain dead on unplug/replug until I let it sit unplugged for a while.

I've looked and I don't see any solder bridging, but I might be missing something. Any ideas what might cause something like this, so I could narrow my investigation down?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 04 October 2019, 16:27:35
I'm having some issues with my board and I'm curious if anyone has any ideas.

When I plug my board in, I get a very, very short RGB fiash, then the keyboard goes dead. It then will remain dead on unplug/replug until I let it sit unplugged for a while.

I've looked and I don't see any solder bridging, but I might be missing something. Any ideas what might cause something like this, so I could narrow my investigation down?

Does holding LCtrl while plugging it it set it to bootloader and detected by BMC still? Sounds like a signal issue and I'm thinking either firmware could use a reflash or your connection to the board is being finicky.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: kmfmppl on Tue, 15 October 2019, 12:48:05
Finally received my board today, and both middle and hipro layers are broken at multiple points. Pretty disappointing.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: draecas on Thu, 17 October 2019, 17:46:22
I'm having some issues with my board and I'm curious if anyone has any ideas.

When I plug my board in, I get a very, very short RGB fiash, then the keyboard goes dead. It then will remain dead on unplug/replug until I let it sit unplugged for a while.

I've looked and I don't see any solder bridging, but I might be missing something. Any ideas what might cause something like this, so I could narrow my investigation down?

Does holding LCtrl while plugging it it set it to bootloader and detected by BMC still? Sounds like a signal issue and I'm thinking either firmware could use a reflash or your connection to the board is being finicky.

I had it working ok for a little while, but now it's back to this original issue. Holding down LCtrl while plugging in does not make it show up in BMC.

When plugging it in, some of the underglow LEDs flash on for a fraction of a second. It changes which ones light up every time, and as I repeat plugging in they eventually stop.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 18 October 2019, 15:30:55
I'm having some issues with my board and I'm curious if anyone has any ideas.

When I plug my board in, I get a very, very short RGB fiash, then the keyboard goes dead. It then will remain dead on unplug/replug until I let it sit unplugged for a while.

I've looked and I don't see any solder bridging, but I might be missing something. Any ideas what might cause something like this, so I could narrow my investigation down?

Does holding LCtrl while plugging it it set it to bootloader and detected by BMC still? Sounds like a signal issue and I'm thinking either firmware could use a reflash or your connection to the board is being finicky.

I had it working ok for a little while, but now it's back to this original issue. Holding down LCtrl while plugging in does not make it show up in BMC.

When plugging it in, some of the underglow LEDs flash on for a fraction of a second. It changes which ones light up every time, and as I repeat plugging in they eventually stop.

That sounds like a connection issue, maybe in the cable/port or possibly a cold solder joint at the controller that didn't show up until a few power cycles. Try plugging in the board while pressing on the controller; if it powers on like normal then the issue is probably there, if not then it could be something like the fuse choking power for some reason. Maybe also try wiggling the cable around in the port while it's plugged in to see if it does anything.


Finally received my board today, and both middle and hipro layers are broken at multiple points. Pretty disappointing.

Sorry to hear about that, the thick frost really didn't have a fun time in shipping for several orders. I presume you're one of the EU orders due to when you've received your order, hit up David of Mechboards.co.uk, he's looking to run some acrylic for EU orders that were affected.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: kmfmppl on Tue, 22 October 2019, 03:17:15
Finally received my board today, and both middle and hipro layers are broken at multiple points. Pretty disappointing.

Sorry to hear about that, the thick frost really didn't have a fun time in shipping for several orders. I presume you're one of the EU orders due to when you've received your order, hit up David of Mechboards.co.uk, he's looking to run some acrylic for EU orders that were affected.

Will do, thanks for your reply :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: Samacle on Wed, 23 October 2019, 20:00:56
I've been having some issues with keys on row 13 (U,I,F10,} etc.) stopping working after some time. I re-soldered those switches which initially seemed to fix the problem but then after 30 minutes or so the same issue would reappear. I started poking around and jumping switches with a wire and eventually managed to regain functionality for a while although I don't know what specifically solved it. After transporting the keyboard in a rucksack, the issue reappeared.

I've noticed that if I apply pressure from below the pcb near the caps-lock lshift area i can get the keys to register. This stops working when I let go.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 23 October 2019, 21:42:26
I've been having some issues with keys on row 13 (U,I,F10,} etc.) stopping working after some time. I re-soldered those switches which initially seemed to fix the problem but then after 30 minutes or so the same issue would reappear. I started poking around and jumping switches with a wire and eventually managed to regain functionality for a while although I don't know what specifically solved it. After transporting the keyboard in a rucksack, the issue reappeared.

I've noticed that if I apply pressure from below the pcb near the caps-lock lshift area i can get the keys to register. This stops working when I let go.

Any ideas?

Sounds like it may be a cold joint right at the controller. May be lucky enough to just touch the pin with the iron to reflow it and it'll be fine.
(https://i.imgur.com/RfKBnJZ.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/RfKBnJZ.jpg)
It's this top corner pin here.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: chris_1865 on Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:48:52
Hi! I've recently finding a 96 keyboard kit and interested in Budget96, but I have a few questions on it:
1. I know the middle arcylic case is sold out. Is there any imformation about the arcylic plate so that I can DIY myself or appoint to local makers? (Inmformation be like dimesion, hole size etc.)
2. Does the case kit contain all the elememts like screws if I built in "skeleton" style?

Thx for answering!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 04 December 2019, 20:18:23
Hi! I've recently finding a 96 keyboard kit and interested in Budget96, but I have a few questions on it:
1. I know the middle arcylic case is sold out. Is there any imformation about the arcylic plate so that I can DIY myself or appoint to local makers? (Inmformation be like dimesion, hole size etc.)
2. Does the case kit contain all the elememts like screws if I built in "skeleton" style?

Thx for answering!

1. I've got the cut files for the mid at https://drive.google.com/open?id=1FyLKrgFOsQkQp3bT5wgdpDVxjnD7ePCH and I'll also make sure this link makes it to the first post. This'll let you send the cut file to a cutting service or Jolimon himself and get a mid cut for it. Stock mid size is 9mm thick but that's a bit hard to come by so you may want to go 3x 3mm.

2. Case kit includes both plates, standoffs, screws, and bumpons; everything needed to assemble a functional case for the board. Do note that if you get a middle cut you'll need slightly different standoffs; The ones for the middle are skinnier to allow more thickness on the cut middles for durability, the included ones for the skeleton case are slightly bigger to better hold up the plates because of the countersunk hole size.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: bananasplit_00 on Wed, 11 December 2019, 03:50:02
Hi,

Got my hands on a budget96 board and case and i really enjoyed building it as my first keyboard build but i do have an issue(besides the cracked acrylic but i just glued that :) ); after i flashed it with QMK firmware one of the RGB LEDs stopped working(???). The bottom left corner one. Worked great with bootmapper but i needed the QMK firmware to do what i wanted with layers and stuff. Is this a definition issue in QMK somewhere? I assume it is but im not boss enough to know :) Thanks for any help  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 11 December 2019, 04:00:19
Hi,

Got my hands on a budget96 board and case and i really enjoyed building it as my first keyboard build but i do have an issue(besides the cracked acrylic but i just glued that :) ); after i flashed it with QMK firmware one of the RGB LEDs stopped working(???). The bottom left corner one. Worked great with bootmapper but i needed the QMK firmware to do what i wanted with layers and stuff. Is this a definition issue in QMK somewhere? I assume it is but im not boss enough to know :) Thanks for any help  ;D

u might have to manually set the amount of leds in the config file
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: bananasplit_00 on Wed, 11 December 2019, 05:25:02
Hi,

Got my hands on a budget96 board and case and i really enjoyed building it as my first keyboard build but i do have an issue(besides the cracked acrylic but i just glued that :) ); after i flashed it with QMK firmware one of the RGB LEDs stopped working(???). The bottom left corner one. Worked great with bootmapper but i needed the QMK firmware to do what i wanted with layers and stuff. Is this a definition issue in QMK somewhere? I assume it is but im not boss enough to know :) Thanks for any help  ;D

u might have to manually set the amount of leds in the config file

big thanks, the amount of RGB LEDs is by default set to 16 when there are 18 LEDs on the PCB, works now!!!  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 11 December 2019, 08:20:29


big thanks, the amount of RGB LEDs is by default set to 16 when there are 18 LEDs on the PCB, works now!!!  ;D

Yeh, it's even a weird number for BMC where the default numbers jump from 16-20 with no 18 option, but when I flash the PCBs for testing I make sure it's set in there.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: blrm on Tue, 28 January 2020, 19:56:05
I'm looking forward to building this board once the box white switches and stabs arrive. Does it support an 1800 set of key caps?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 28 January 2020, 21:56:05
I'm looking forward to building this board once the box white switches and stabs arrive. Does it support an 1800 set of key caps?

I'm not up to date on all possible 1800 options but I *think* it will support most of them with the only issue I see being 1-1-1 on the left side due to a mounting spot. You can double check against the board compat below

(https://i.imgur.com/toK3xy7.png) (https://i.imgur.com/toK3xy7.png)
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: OfTheWild on Wed, 29 January 2020, 11:35:58
Built this for out in my garage shop. Used the worlds worst switch hako true for the box switch feature of being resistant to moisture and debris. Stabs are mix and matched leftover pcb mounts. Caps are nkpc from aliexpress. Whole thing for under $90 and i'm happy with it.  :thumb:

(https://i.imgur.com/6AxZlLn.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 29 January 2020, 13:59:50
Built this for out in my garage shop. Used the worlds worst switch hako true for the box switch feature of being resistant to moisture and debris. Stabs are mix and matched leftover pcb mounts. Caps are nkpc from aliexpress. Whole thing for under $90 and i'm happy with it.  :thumb:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/6AxZlLn.jpg)


It’s a rugged mutt.  I like it.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: bananasplit_00 on Thu, 30 January 2020, 01:30:48
So here is a strange thing that happened to my Budget96:

When i got it i put Gateron silent brown switches in it so it was at a decent sound level to use at work. Did a lot of layout work in QMK and ended up really happy with it. The only thing was that i kind of wanted more tactile switches.

Got word of the Keebworks Tacits, a silent T1 and bought a bunch as soon as they went live on the store. Took me a few days but i finally got around to swapping the switches over, was a huge pain because my solder sucker broke halfway through the de soldering process but it got done. Put it all back together, plugged it in, underglow kicked on and i tested a few switches. Glorious, very good feel! Started typing a little, pressed space and nothing. No space...

Ok ill take it back appart, lets try shorting over the legs? nope. Worked for a some random alphas i tried but not space. Ok, PCB must be damaged? No visible damage on the under side. Solder looks good so its not that. Ended up giving up, going to bed and leaving it for a few days. Got back to it yesterday, hadnt magically fixed itself, shorting over the legs/pads didnt work any better this time around either. Removed the switch to see if there was any damage on the top side of the PCB, didnt see any damage. Tried to short the pads with the switch removed and... it worked???? Put the switch back in exactly the same and now it works.

Extremely odd issue but im loving this board with Tacits. Sounds great, feels great :D
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 30 January 2020, 12:06:55
Maybe the diode for that switch is loose and you pushed it back into place while handling?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: phxrbn on Thu, 06 February 2020, 16:59:32
Just bought a Budget96- having trouble resetting it to flash a new layout- plugging usb + k00 (L-CTRL). Is the reset protocol something else?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Sat, 08 February 2020, 22:57:47
Just bought a Budget96- having trouble resetting it to flash a new layout- plugging usb + k00 (L-CTRL). Is the reset protocol something else?

That seems to be doing it for me, holding LCtrl while plugging then I can flash default firmware with BMC.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 15 March 2020, 20:48:29
I don't know about the low profile version, but I own the hi-pro budget96 case and it is by far one of the best sounding and feeling keyboards I own.  Just thought I would thank you again for this gem.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: bananasplit_00 on Mon, 16 March 2020, 10:20:40
I don't know about the low profile version, but I own the hi-pro budget96 case and it is by far one of the best sounding and feeling keyboards I own.  Just thought I would thank you again for this gem.

I had no idea there was a hi pro version tbh but the LP version sounds really good and is very nice to type on in general.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 16 March 2020, 11:01:46
Here’s my beauty at the moment.

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Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 16 March 2020, 14:42:33
Here’s my beauty at the moment.

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Wow, that looks pretty nice!
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: Slayer77 on Mon, 16 March 2020, 15:49:46
Here’s my beauty at the moment.

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What keycaps are those?

Sent from my GM1911 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 16 March 2020, 16:41:35
Here’s my beauty at the moment.

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What keycaps are those?

Sent from my GM1911 using Tapatalk

GMK coniferus
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 16 March 2020, 20:50:31
https://github.com/DonutCables/Budget96-Files

I believe I said some time ago I would be making these files easily available, and after a reminder I finally got to it. Hipro files aren't there yet because I need to go grab copies from Jolimon, but they'll be up when I do. A hardware list will also be added once I've checked back over that since I've slightly forgotten dimensions used.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: mr.squishy on Tue, 17 March 2020, 01:21:12
Wow, I had no idea there was a hipro version of the Budget96. Makes me wish I was around for the original GB even more. I know Donutcat has pcb's available on his site, but is there anywhere to currently get a case for a budget96? or is the only option currently having one cut/made?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: flyingalbatross1 on Tue, 31 March 2020, 09:59:51
Finally got around to building mine today - with Kailh BOX Burnt Oranges and GMK Phantom. They did say BOX were 'heavy' but this is going to take some getting used to!

Bootmapper Client (BMC) seems easy and friendly to use. I found it easier than QMK.

Very nice. Very different feel to my old board with Gateron Browns.

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Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: phxrbn on Sun, 05 April 2020, 20:21:10
Here’s my beauty at the moment.

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Did you make the diffuser and hipro yourself? Looks pretty solid. My budget96 that I purchased has been sitting since I got my nym96 for work. I wanna put it to use my warehouse, but the fact that it's open everywhere makes me weary of killing. Need some protection for it. 
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 05 April 2020, 20:50:05
Here’s my beauty at the moment.

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Did you make the diffuser and hipro yourself? Looks pretty solid. My budget96 that I purchased has been sitting since I got my nym96 for work. I wanna put it to use my warehouse, but the fact that it's open everywhere makes me weary of killing. Need some protection for it.

Any acrylic will almost for sure be from GB kits. But you can use the files at https://github.com/DonutCables/Budget96-Files if you have somewhere to cut/print your own pieces.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: v1ral671 on Mon, 13 July 2020, 04:58:13
Here’s my beauty at the moment.

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Wow, that looks pretty nice!
What case is this..
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: v1ral671 on Sun, 19 July 2020, 20:37:09
Here’s my beauty at the moment.

(Attachment Link)

Wow, that looks pretty nice!

How do I source one of these cases out?
Do I contact the maker?
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: pepo2181 on Wed, 05 August 2020, 19:59:29
After a long time I built mine
Switches: Everglide Jades (filmed & spring swapped for 67g)
Stabs: Everglide Clear

Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: hehe13 on Thu, 06 August 2020, 00:44:53
any chance there are still extra set (PCB and plates)? the website only shows extra white plates (https://donutcables.com/collections/frontpage/products/budget96-extras)

my 96kee just gave up on me.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Thu, 06 August 2020, 08:22:42
any chance there are still extra set (PCB and plates)? the website only shows extra white plates (https://donutcables.com/collections/frontpage/products/budget96-extras)

my 96kee just gave up on me.

So right now I'm out of "normal" PCBs, all that's left is a pile of ones that arrived with functional issues that I'll be working through repairing to list. Most of these issues are simple things like missing diodes/resistors or dead LEDs that make for non-visible repairs. I'll dive into working on these once I've finished clearing out my current cable backlog and post here when I have them ready to go out.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: v1ral671 on Sun, 04 April 2021, 09:48:02
https://github.com/DonutCables/Budget96-Files

I believe I said some time ago I would be making these files easily available, and after a reminder I finally got to it. Hipro files aren't there yet because I need to go grab copies from Jolimon, but they'll be up when I do. A hardware list will also be added once I've checked back over that since I've slightly forgotten dimensions used.

By any chance you have the parts needed to secure the plates in place.
Title: Re: [GB] budget96 - Extras Available
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 04 April 2021, 15:55:23
https://github.com/DonutCables/Budget96-Files

I believe I said some time ago I would be making these files easily available, and after a reminder I finally got to it. Hipro files aren't there yet because I need to go grab copies from Jolimon, but they'll be up when I do. A hardware list will also be added once I've checked back over that since I've slightly forgotten dimensions used.

By any chance you have the parts needed to secure the plates in place.

How so? I've got the standoffs listed on the repo there and that's all there is to it. Make sure to get the thicker ones if you're not using a middle slice, the thicker ones won't go through the screwholes.