So about the classifieds...

[Sifo]

Classifieds are turning into a testing waters circlejerk quickly.

I and many other members would appreciate some moderation on it.

Not only that but the members should know better by now.

Moose and Beast are old school members that know whats up, so quite frankly this immature, unnecessary propagation of drama is unexpected from them.

That being said, just because they are generally respected people, does not mean they shouldn't be taken action on.

Grow up kids.

Kangaroo~

Dude Beast just turned 12 he's not an "older" member. I don't see how this is relevant to anything either, THEY MADE A TRADE.

[esoomenona]

Classifieds are turning into a testing waters circlejerk quickly.

I and many other members would appreciate some moderation on it.

Not only that but the members should know better by now.

Moose and Beast are old school members that know whats up, so quite frankly this immature, unnecessary propagation of drama is unexpected from them.

That being said, just because they are generally respected people, does not mean they shouldn't be taken action on.

Grow up kids.

Kangaroo~

Dude Beast just turned 12 he's not an "older" member. I don't see how this is relevant to anything either, THEY MADE A TRADE.

Wait... The_Beast is only 12? I can't trade with him... Sorry, Beast. Deal's off.

[SpAmRaY]

how would people even know if you are trading in private?
obviously you are doing something wrong.

posting it in public is basically a giant middle finger to the public
"HEY IM SELLING THIS AWESOME ITEM TO THIS GUY, YOU CANT HAVE IT!"

just keep it to yourselves...

I think they know when I go

*What I got in the Mail today* [thread]

"SpamRay just sent me some meth, it tasted great"

I was wondering what that was!

Let me know if you need some for school!

Reported for attempting to deal drugs.

I thought he said math!

Hahahahaha, now I look like I sell drugs to kiddies :/

We know better or else you would have purchased a better keyboard by now with all the extra money

[Tym]

Classifieds are turning into a testing waters circlejerk quickly.

I and many other members would appreciate some moderation on it.

Not only that but the members should know better by now.

Moose and Beast are old school members that know whats up, so quite frankly this immature, unnecessary propagation of drama is unexpected from them.

That being said, just because they are generally respected people, does not mean they shouldn't be taken action on.

Grow up kids.

Kangaroo~

Dude Beast just turned 12 he's not an "older" member. I don't see how this is relevant to anything either, THEY MADE A TRADE.

Wait... The_Beast is only 12? I can't trade with him... Sorry, Beast. Deal's off.

Oi Beast...want some Math?

[MKULTRA]

Can you guys stop spamming bull**** in here?  This is supposed to be a serious discussion thread.

[Dubsgalore]

Classifieds are turning into a testing waters circlejerk quickly.

I and many other members would appreciate some moderation on it.

Not only that but the members should know better by now.

Moose and Beast are old school members that know whats up, so quite frankly this immature, unnecessary propagation of drama is unexpected from them.

That being said, just because they are generally respected people, does not mean they shouldn't be taken action on.

Grow up kids.

Kangaroo~

^^ +1

[KangarooZombies]

The fact that both of you are denying that there was any trolling involved in the post of those threads is ridiculous.

You wouldn't post a public thread with literally nothing to sell just to do a backdoor trade with one other member.

You're trolling and its not even clever. It's immature.

Kangaroo~

[Sifo]

Can you guys stop spamming bull**** in here?  This is supposed to be a serious discussion thread.

Dude this entire thread is bull****

[snoopy]

I just wonder how the mx stuff fits on moose' topre board... (after he has seen the light) 

[MKULTRA]

Can you guys stop spamming bull**** in here?  This is supposed to be a serious discussion thread.

Dude this entire thread is bull****

I'm stating a problem I have with ****ty posts in classifieds.  This forum should promote open discussion of its policies.  Sorry for having an opinion.

[Sifo]

Can you guys stop spamming bull**** in here?  This is supposed to be a serious discussion thread.

Dude this entire thread is bull****

I'm stating a problem I have with ****ty posts in classifieds.  This forum should promote open discussion of its policies.  Sorry for having an opinion.

Then what is wrong with other people sharing different opinions in this thread?

Whatever, have fun with this circlejerk I'm out.

[MKULTRA]

Can you guys stop spamming bull**** in here?  This is supposed to be a serious discussion thread.

Dude this entire thread is bull****

I'm stating a problem I have with ****ty posts in classifieds.  This forum should promote open discussion of its policies.  Sorry for having an opinion.

Then what is wrong with other people sharing different opinions in this thread?

Saying that this thread is bull**** doesn't contribute anything to the discussion.

[Sifo]

Can you guys stop spamming bull**** in here?  This is supposed to be a serious discussion thread.

Dude this entire thread is bull****

I'm stating a problem I have with ****ty posts in classifieds.  This forum should promote open discussion of its policies.  Sorry for having an opinion.

Then what is wrong with other people sharing different opinions in this thread?

Saying that this thread is bull**** doesn't contribute anything to the discussion.

Calling other people's replies bull**** doesn't contribute to anything either

Bull**** thread expect bull**** posts

[KangarooZombies]

Can you guys stop spamming bull**** in here?  This is supposed to be a serious discussion thread.

Dude this entire thread is bull****

I'm stating a problem I have with ****ty posts in classifieds.  This forum should promote open discussion of its policies.  Sorry for having an opinion.

This thread is NECESSARY.

The drama bull**** is not for classifieds.

Classifieds is not a discussion board, and its certainly not a board to be used for circlejerking a two week old issue to stir up unnecessary drama so stop cluttering it with all of this

Kangaroo~

[acantha]

i may or may not agree that the issues raised here are bull****, but i do agree that this is the appropriate forum for the issue, and he doesn't deserve to be treated like a petulant child for having an opinion that is, at the very least, shared by some portion of the user base.

[SpAmRaY]

When I've had issues with classifieds in the past I pm'd boost about it. Not sure if he is considered the classifieds mod or how that works.

Are moderators assigned specific areas?

Who do we contact about a problem thread/post in classifieds?

[MKULTRA]

When I've had issues with classifieds in the past I pm'd boost about it. Not sure if he is considered the classifieds mod or how that works.

Are moderators assigned specific areas?

Who do we contact about a problem thread/post in classifieds?

Idk I figured I would post a thread about it in the proper section so we could have a decent discussion about it.

[SpAmRaY]

I've tried reporting excessive bumping in the past but was told it was fine because of 'who' was doing it and that it was to be expected from 'them'.

[funkymeeba]

I'm surprised that someone calling out the whole Good-Old-Boys-Club in a feedback topic didn't get moderated. That is pretty new to Geekhack! I remember when I questioned shady moderatiaon practices in this very forum one day, and my thread was locked with a stupid, vague answer that didn't answer my question!

I'm with MKULTRA here. I don't mind people doing deals by private message... in fact, I am guilty of that one. It's an easy forum for dealing with the meebcaps. I do not like the testing waters threads that exist to build up hype. It's annoying.

We really need to be better at keeping the trolling sane. I did not like that whole MY hype festival that was going on. I'm sure people who were misled into buying a keyboard they were likely to hate also did not appreciate it.

[tjcaustin]

When I've had issues with classifieds in the past I pm'd boost about it. Not sure if he is considered the classifieds mod or how that works.

Are moderators assigned specific areas?

Who do we contact about a problem thread/post in classifieds?

That would have been brilliant, since he's the one that's really patient zero of this outbreak, if we're talking about everyone that does it and not the two that did it today as OP claims.

[MKULTRA]

When I've had issues with classifieds in the past I pm'd boost about it. Not sure if he is considered the classifieds mod or how that works.

Are moderators assigned specific areas?

Who do we contact about a problem thread/post in classifieds?

That would have been brilliant, since he's the one that's really patient zero of this outbreak, if we're talking about everyone that does it and not the two that did it today as OP claims.

TJ you are correct, I am talking about EVERYONE who does it.  These latest two threads just prompted me to post this thread.

[nubbinator]

Classifieds are turning into a testing waters circlejerk quickly.

I and many other members would appreciate some moderation on it.

Not only that but the members should know better by now.

Moose and Beast are old school members that know whats up, so quite frankly this immature, unnecessary propagation of drama is unexpected from them.

That being said, just because they are generally respected people, does not mean they shouldn't be taken action on.

Grow up kids.

Kangaroo~

100% agree with this statement.  There were a pair of amusing thread mocking the [TW] and some other threads that went live recently, but there comes a point when it just becomes a circlejerk and/or incites drama. 

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a major overhaul in the way the classifieds are done, including classifieds requiring photos and photo proof, requiring all sales to clearly state the asking price, having all auctions handled by a third party facilitator so that you don't get people who decide to back out if the price is magically too low at the end, all auctions being made public only, and GH taking a cut of all auctions so that we see a decrease in the absurdity that seems to happen with auction threads and private auction threads.

[The_Beast]

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a major overhaul in the way the classifieds are done, including classifieds requiring photos and photo proof, requiring all sales to clearly state the asking price, having all auctions handled by a third party facilitator, all auctions being made public only, and GH taking a cut of all auctions so that we see a decrease in the absurdity that seems to happen with auction threads and private auction threads.

I'm sure people would move to another site if the FS section was that tight.

[nubbinator]

I'm sure people would move to another site if the FS section was that tight.

And that would be fine with me.  I'd rather see a classifieds section run properly with fewer posters instead of the circlejerking, profiteering, and sometimes shady stuff that I see in there all the time.  Personally, I don't see those as all that tight of rules, just keeping things in check and keeping people more honest.

[SpAmRaY]

Classifieds are turning into a testing waters circlejerk quickly.

I and many other members would appreciate some moderation on it.

Not only that but the members should know better by now.

Moose and Beast are old school members that know whats up, so quite frankly this immature, unnecessary propagation of drama is unexpected from them.

That being said, just because they are generally respected people, does not mean they shouldn't be taken action on.

Grow up kids.

Kangaroo~

100% agree with this statement.  There were a pair of amusing thread mocking the [TW] and some other threads that went live recently, but there comes a point when it just becomes a circlejerk and/or incites drama. 

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a major overhaul in the way the classifieds are done, including classifieds requiring photos and photo proof, requiring all sales to clearly state the asking price, having all auctions handled by a third party facilitator so that you don't get people who decide to back out if the price is magically too low at the end, all auctions being made public only, and GH taking a cut of all auctions so that we see a decrease in the absurdity that seems to happen with auction threads and private auction threads.

I agree and also some moderation of group buys and clarification when it's a vendor versus regular member etc. Some sort of accountability.

And many forums require photo proof with your username and date etc.

I also think geekhack should get a cut from all the money that changes hands around here to keep the place going.

[Dubsgalore]

We really need to be better at keeping the trolling sane. I did not like that whole MY hype festival that was going on. I'm sure people who were misled into buying a keyboard they were likely to hate also did not appreciate it.

where people get the idea that that was funny or cute idk
the trolling and butthurt really has to stop

[nubbinator]

We really need to be better at keeping the trolling sane. I did not like that whole MY hype festival that was going on. I'm sure people who were misled into buying a keyboard they were likely to hate also did not appreciate it.

where people get the idea that that was funny or cute idk
the trolling and butthurt really has to stop

Yeah, that one annoyed me to no end.  I know it was supposed to be a joke since tp4t was temporarily banned and wasn't going off on the "amazing ergodox", but there's a difference between hailing something because you truly love it and want others to as well (which, apparently, he does, making him no different than the Topre proselytes) and recommending junk to be cute and funny.

[MKULTRA]

While I agree with you guys.  That is a discussion for another thread.

[rowdy]

One forum I am a member of insists on an actual photo of the item being sold, or the thread is immediately locked by a mod.

It is a system that works, there is almost no spam there.

[hashbaz]

Are TW threads really an issue?  It's just been Boost's thread that caused a kerfufle, and all the rest of this has been spin-off of that.  Right?

[Sifo]

Are TW threads really an issue?  It's just been Boost's thread that caused a kerfufle, and all the rest of this has been spin-off of that.  Right?

[esoomenona]

Are TW threads really an issue?  It's just been Boost's thread that caused a kerfufle, and all the rest of this has been spin-off of that.  Right?

[hashbaz]

When I've had issues with classifieds in the past I pm'd boost about it. Not sure if he is considered the classifieds mod or how that works.

Are moderators assigned specific areas?

Who do we contact about a problem thread/post in classifieds?

At one time we had mods that covered specific subforums, but not any more.  All the mods are "global moderators", and you can PM any of us with any issue.

[MKULTRA]

Are TW threads really an issue?  It's just been Boost's thread that caused a kerfufle, and all the rest of this has been spin-off of that.  Right?

Also FS threads which have nothing posted in them.  People need to wait to post their threads until they know what they are selling and can list it. 

Are TW threads really an issue?  It's just been Boost's thread that caused a kerfufle, and all the rest of this has been spin-off of that.  Right?

Also FS threads which have nothing posted in them.  People need to wait to post their threads until they know what they are selling and can list it. 

And if they are "spin-offs" they are useless spam which doesn't belong in the classifieds forums.  So why aren't they being punished?

[tjcaustin]

Are TW threads really an issue?  It's just been Boost's thread that caused a kerfufle, and all the rest of this has been spin-off of that.  Right?

Clearly, my opinion is well documented, but YES.

We really need to be better at keeping the trolling sane. I did not like that whole MY hype festival that was going on. I'm sure people who were misled into buying a keyboard they were likely to hate also did not appreciate it.

where people get the idea that that was funny or cute idk
the trolling and butthurt really has to stop

Bruh, you're a'ight, but this is irony, right?

[rowdy]

Are TW threads really an issue?  It's just been Boost's thread that caused a kerfufle, and all the rest of this has been spin-off of that.  Right?

They can be disappointing, especially when you know it is an established member with some really great things that they might be selling or trading, and then having to wade through dozens of pages of threadcrapping to find out.

[esoomenona]

where people get the idea that that was funny or cute idk
the trolling and butthurt really has to stop

the trolling and butthurt really has to stop

the butthurt really has to stop

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[Dubsgalore]

implying i'm butthurt

[esoomenona]

implying i'm butthurt

Tell me again how you traded your Raindrop set for $24?

[Dubsgalore]

implying i'm butthurt

Tell me again how you traded your Raindrop set for $24?

oh good you saw that then

not like you aren't butthurt about the TW at all :}

[hashbaz]

And if they are "spin-offs" they are useless spam which doesn't belong in the classifieds forums.  So why aren't they being punished?

They have the utility of being humorous, for some people.  I don't think we need to lock down the classifieds and treat them as hallowed ground.  If something is a genuine problem, then yeah let's make a rule to cover it.  So, two questions:

1) How common are [TW] and "post items later" sales threads?
2) Why are they a problem?

[funkymeeba]

This has turned into a pretty useless pissing contest. This is the kind of **** we need less of.

[MKULTRA]

Stop spamming in here holy **** take it elsewhere.

[KangarooZombies]

useless pissing contest

^

No one likes them except the creators.

[snoopy]

moose makes dubs butthurt.... hmm....

[esoomenona]

moose makes dubs butthurt.... hmm....

[Sifo]

moose makes dubs butthurt.... hmm....

[MKULTRA]

And if they are "spin-offs" they are useless spam which doesn't belong in the classifieds forums.  So why aren't they being punished?

They have the utility of being humorous, for some people.  I don't think we need to lock down the classifieds and treat them as hallowed ground.  If something is a genuine problem, then yeah let's make a rule to cover it.  So, two questions:

1) How common are [TW] and "post items later" sales threads?
2) Why are they a problem?

Hash I think the classifieds needs to be a serious place for serious threads.  If you want humor go to off-topic.

1. TW threads have been extremely prevalent lately (whether they are jokes or not)  As far as post items later, I see them often.
2. There is no reason to post a thread announcing your sale when you don't have items to put up yet.  It is simply useless clutter.  They are posting these threads to build up suspense and interest in heir sales (which will likely already have very rare items) which is just unnecessary.  Just post the thread in two hours or the next day when you have pictures and a list of items.  Usually these threads are at 4+ pages before the sale even begins.

[Dubsgalore]

feed the egos! nomnomnomnom!

[MKULTRA]

moose makes dubs butthurt.... hmm....

As an elder member of the community I would really expect more from you.  Stop feeding the drama.  Grow up.