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Offline Huxley2500

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #750 on: Tue, 12 May 2015, 16:38:13 »
 Cherry MX Blue is BEST for gaming!



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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #751 on: Tue, 12 May 2015, 16:57:48 »
Topre feels closer to rubber dome than mechanical

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #752 on: Tue, 12 May 2015, 18:34:13 »
Topre feels closer to rubber dome than mechanical

It is rubber dome, just super refined and nice feeling rubber domes with tighter tolerances than your membrane RD and other crappy RD boards.

Of course, RealForce, Leopold, and Cooler Master iterations of Topre all feel like crap to me compared to the HHKB.

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« Reply #753 on: Tue, 12 May 2015, 18:43:21 »
Topre feels closer to rubber dome than mechanical

Define how "mechanical" feels

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #754 on: Tue, 12 May 2015, 19:24:20 »
IBM Model M's (except for M13s and Industrials) aren't beige. They're off-white, eggshell or putty (your choice). The "beige" misnomer has continued because it was never sufficiently challenged.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #755 on: Tue, 12 May 2015, 19:30:35 »
STOP FLIPPING YOUR GOD DAM F***ING SPACE BAR. IT LOOKS STUPID AND THERE IS LITERALLY NO DIFFERENCE. STOP ACTING LIKE ITS SO DAM COMFORTABLE. sorry I rage at the sight of flipped space bars... you still type at >70wpm
It is more comfortable, especially on RF boards. If your board has a high tilt, or you sit low, it digs into your thumb

I happened to read this post just as I sit in front of my high tilt keyboard, with my thumb caressing the delightfully distinct edge of my normally oriented spacebar :)

I did try flipping it before to see what the fuss was about. It felt different, but not any better. If anything, I use the edge of the spacebar to help my hands find the correct distance to the home row keys, something that doesn't work with a flipped spacebar.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #756 on: Tue, 12 May 2015, 21:51:06 »
STOP FLIPPING YOUR GOD DAM F***ING SPACE BAR. IT LOOKS STUPID AND THERE IS LITERALLY NO DIFFERENCE. STOP ACTING LIKE ITS SO DAM COMFORTABLE. sorry I rage at the sight of flipped space bars... you still type at >70wpm
It is more comfortable, especially on RF boards. If your board has a high tilt, or you sit low, it digs into your thumb

I happened to read this post just as I sit in front of my high tilt keyboard, with my thumb caressing the delightfully distinct edge of my normally oriented spacebar :)

I did try flipping it before to see what the fuss was about. It felt different, but not any better. If anything, I use the edge of the spacebar to help my hands find the correct distance to the home row keys, something that doesn't work with a flipped spacebar.

Aesthetics > comfort. And good point on the distance finding!

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #757 on: Tue, 12 May 2015, 21:56:27 »
The first time I saw a flipped spacebar, I thought the keyboard was broken actually.  It looks wrong to me, but I suppose some people prefer it that way.  I'd rather keep it normal myself.

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« Reply #758 on: Tue, 12 May 2015, 23:26:44 »
I agree it looks weird but is damn comforable imo.  Some keyboards space bars dig into my thumbs and it is actually quite painful.  Luckily I don't have this issue with IBM space bars.


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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #759 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 02:18:31 »
Sci-Fi themed artisan caps are tacky. That's actually not that unpopular of an opinion but w/e.

Star Wars/Dr.Who/Star Trek-themed anything is consumeristic and trite. You're the kind of people I imagine browsing reddit.com/r/gaming and reddit.com/r/funny.

But, this is probably the most generous and supportive community I've ever seen. You guys are fantastic! :thumb:



Your second point makes absolutely no sense. Wtf does /r/funny/gaming have to do with Star Wars/Star Trek and even ****ty dr. Who?
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« Reply #760 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 02:26:56 »
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« Reply #761 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 02:28:50 »
****ty dr. Who?
God bless you!!!
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« Reply #762 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 02:39:10 »
Sci-Fi themed artisan caps are tacky. That's actually not that unpopular of an opinion but w/e.

Star Wars/Dr.Who/Star Trek-themed anything is consumeristic and trite. You're the kind of people I imagine browsing reddit.com/r/gaming and reddit.com/r/funny.

But, this is probably the most generous and supportive community I've ever seen. You guys are fantastic! :thumb:



Your second point makes absolutely no sense. Wtf does /r/funny/gaming have to do with Star Wars/Star Trek and even ****ty dr. Who?

Alright, maybe it was a non-sequitir.

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« Reply #763 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 03:05:33 »
Also you'll see there is a brand loyalty here. Can't get more consumeristic(??) than that.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #764 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 03:08:01 »
40% boards are dumb. Sorry jd :P
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #765 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 03:14:29 »
MX Blue is a disgusting switch. Typing on or hearing these switches is nauseating.
What is with the force curve in these switches. It's not even a curve, its a spike.
Feel all 50cN of required actuation in the first 2mm and then snap and your finger unintentionally slams the switch down to bottom out.
How is that motion even remotely satisfying.
It's like your pushing the stem past a distinct obstruction rather than an actual tactile curve with an audible click around the peak of the required force.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #766 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 06:26:14 »
Topre feels closer to rubber dome than mechanical

Define how "mechanical" feels

Probably not an unpopular opinion.

But I think "mechanical" keyboards denotes a keyboard of superior quality and feeling. The word itself strictly doesn't mean much, technical anything that works is mechanical, but the community added their own meaning and I think that is the important part. So while tropes do have mechanisms similar to rubber domes, realize that the word "mechanical" is arbitrary and making distinctions is a fruitless attempt. Whats important to focus on is the feeling of the keyboard.

To answer your question, I think "mechanical" means nice feeling switches and the OP means that tropes feels similar to rubber dome to him/her.

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« Reply #767 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 07:26:13 »
But I think "mechanical" keyboards denotes a keyboard of superior quality and feeling.
I think "mechanical" means nice feeling switches
*facepalm*

That's beyond ridiculous.

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« Reply #768 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 07:28:52 »
But I think "mechanical" keyboards denotes a keyboard of superior quality and feeling.
I think "mechanical" means nice feeling switches
*facepalm*

That's beyond ridiculous.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #769 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 08:19:09 »
tropes

I'm not sure if this was intentional or not.

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« Reply #770 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 08:21:05 »
tropes

I'm not sure if this was intentional or not.
I meant topre. Sorry I am pretty bad at spelling. It was unintentional.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #771 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 08:35:41 »
To answer your question, I think "mechanical" means nice feeling switches [...]

Boobs aren't mechanical, unfortunately.  :p Or abs, I suppose, for the ladies.

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« Reply #772 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 08:51:43 »
tropes

I'm not sure if this was intentional or not.
I meant topre. Sorry I am pretty bad at spelling. It was unintentional.

No need to apologize.  A lot of people (myself included) misspell topre (thorpe) on purpose (albeit after someone mistakenly did so), so I just wasn't sure.  :)  (lots of parentheses :P )

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« Reply #773 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 08:57:40 »
tropes

I'm not sure if this was intentional or not.
I meant topre. Sorry I am pretty bad at spelling. It was unintentional.

No need to apologize.  A lot of people (myself included) misspell topre (thorpe) on purpose (albeit after someone mistakenly did so), so I just wasn't sure.  :)  (lots of parentheses :P )

And all this time I thought it was pronounced Toe-Pray, like a bad French student.

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« Reply #774 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 09:00:40 »
tropes

I'm not sure if this was intentional or not.
I meant topre. Sorry I am pretty bad at spelling. It was unintentional.

No need to apologize.  A lot of people (myself included) misspell topre (thorpe) on purpose (albeit after someone mistakenly did so), so I just wasn't sure.  :)  (lots of parentheses :P )

And all this time I thought it was pronounced Toe-Pray, like a bad French student.

It is pronounced like that though.  :P  Although some will tell you differently - we've had multiple threads on the topic.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #775 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 09:20:19 »
tropes

I'm not sure if this was intentional or not.
I meant topre. Sorry I am pretty bad at spelling. It was unintentional.

No need to apologize.  A lot of people (myself included) misspell topre (thorpe) on purpose (albeit after someone mistakenly did so), so I just wasn't sure.  :)  (lots of parentheses :P )

And all this time I thought it was pronounced Toe-Pray, like a bad French student.

It is pronounced like that though.  :P  Although some will tell you differently - we've had multiple threads on the topic.

I thought it was pronounced as "Toe-preh"? As in "Tokyo Press".

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« Reply #776 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 09:23:50 »
tropes

I'm not sure if this was intentional or not.
I meant topre. Sorry I am pretty bad at spelling. It was unintentional.

No need to apologize.  A lot of people (myself included) misspell topre (thorpe) on purpose (albeit after someone mistakenly did so), so I just wasn't sure.  :)  (lots of parentheses :P )

And all this time I thought it was pronounced Toe-Pray, like a bad French student.

It is pronounced like that though.  :P  Although some will tell you differently - we've had multiple threads on the topic.

I thought it was pronounced as "Toe-preh"? As in "Tokyo Press".

IMO, as long as you say either of those and not "Topper" you're good.  ;D  I'm looking at you, Bro and Punks (IIRC)...   >:D

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« Reply #777 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 09:43:25 »
Feel all 50cN of required actuation in the first 2mm and then snap and your finger unintentionally slams the switch down to bottom out.
How is that motion even remotely satisfying.

I bet you have never typed on an electric typewriter. I remember typing on this East German beast as a kid, it was loud as ****, and when you pressed a key, it was ridiculously heavy, but once actuated, it almost literally SHOT away from your finger, like negative force after actuation.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #778 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 10:54:23 »
I don't like the feel of the IBM Model M. I think it feels clacky but not as nice as true clicky switches like MX Green or SMK Blues.
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« Reply #779 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 10:58:06 »
'True' clicky?

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #780 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 11:03:40 »

MX Blue is a disgusting switch. Typing on or hearing these switches is nauseating.
What is with the force curve in these switches. It's not even a curve, its a spike.
Feel all 50cN of required actuation in the first 2mm and then snap and your finger unintentionally slams the switch down to bottom out.
How is that motion even remotely satisfying.
It's like your pushing the stem past a distinct obstruction rather than an actual tactile curve with an audible click around the peak of the required force.

Not to mention the shrill and obnoxious click noise.  Blues are the worst.  Vintage/broken in Blues are actually nice though.

I thought it was pronounced as "Toe-preh"? As in "Tokyo Press".

IMO, as long as you say either of those and not "Topper" you're good.  ;D  I'm looking at you, Bro and Punks (IIRC)...   >:D

It's Toe-Pruh bruh.


I don't like the feel of the IBM Model M. I think it feels clacky but not as nice as true clicky switches like MX Green or SMK Blues.

Well, the Model M is basically IBM's Cherry MY.  Model F for BS or go home.

MX Greens are horrible though. 

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #781 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 11:04:32 »
MX Greens are horrible though.

It's like you WANT to hurt my feelings.

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« Reply #782 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 11:04:51 »
'True' clicky?

I meant "true" as in each switch being independent of each other. Model M's have springs but they are not individual switches due to the underlying membrane. I don't mean to say that the IBM isn't clicky or anything.
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« Reply #783 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 11:10:39 »
MX Greens are horrible though.

It's like you WANT to hurt my feelings.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #784 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 11:15:04 »
'True' clicky?

I meant "true" as in each switch being independent of each other. Model M's have springs but they are not individual switches due to the underlying membrane. I don't mean to say that the IBM isn't clicky or anything.

That's not inherent to the mechanism, though.  You could make a buckling spring board (M or F) with discrete switches, it just doesn't make sense. 

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« Reply #785 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 11:17:45 »
MX Greens are horrible though.

It's like you WANT to hurt my feelings.

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« Reply #786 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 11:21:54 »

MX Greens are horrible though.

It's like you WANT to hurt my feelings.

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Then why attack me? You'd starve  :D

Nah, everyone here is virgins.

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« Reply #787 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 11:24:55 »
MX Greens are horrible though.

It's like you WANT to hurt my feelings.

I survive on the tears of virgins.

Then why attack me? You'd starve  :D


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« Reply #788 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 11:59:07 »
MX Greens are horrible though.

It's like you WANT to hurt my feelings.

I survive on the tears of virgins.

Then why attack me? You'd starve  :D

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« Reply #789 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 11:59:54 »

Nah, everyone here is virgins.

I suppose I don't exist here then :P

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« Reply #790 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 12:11:34 »
****ty dr. Who?
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« Reply #791 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 13:11:50 »
I have watched Dr Who off and on since the 1970s.

The new series was great when it hit its stride, and, even though Tom Baker was "my Doctor" I have to say that David Tennant was the best Doctor ever, hands-down.

However, Matt Smith was one of the very worst, and this latest season is genuinely disgusting. I watched maybe half a dozen episodes with my teenage kids, and even they couldn't stand to watch it any more.
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« Reply #792 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 22:08:38 »
I have watched Dr Who off and on since the 1970s.

The new series was great when it hit its stride, and, even though Tom Baker was "my Doctor" I have to say that David Tennant was the best Doctor ever, hands-down.

However, Matt Smith was one of the very worst, and this latest season is genuinely disgusting. I watched maybe half a dozen episodes with my teenage kids, and even they couldn't stand to watch it any more.

I'm at season 6 atm and I agree, Matt Smith is the worst Doctor  :-[ But Karen Gillian is sooo cute...

Is Matt Smith still the actual Doctor?

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #793 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 23:09:56 »
I have watched Dr Who off and on since the 1970s.

The new series was great when it hit its stride, and, even though Tom Baker was "my Doctor" I have to say that David Tennant was the best Doctor ever, hands-down.

However, Matt Smith was one of the very worst, and this latest season is genuinely disgusting. I watched maybe half a dozen episodes with my teenage kids, and even they couldn't stand to watch it any more.

I'm at season 6 atm and I agree, Matt Smith is the worst Doctor  :-[ But Karen Gillian is sooo cute...

Is Matt Smith still the actual Doctor?
Peter Capladi is the current Doctor, and I quite enjoy him as the Doctor, though I haven't seen all of the latest season yet.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #794 on: Wed, 13 May 2015, 23:20:29 »
Without singling out any specific model, I think 'custom keyboards' that sandwich flat sheets of acrylic look incredibly cheap. In most of them, you can even see the lasercutter's step resolution along the curves/beveled edges. Exposed bolts/screws, and some with very clumsy looking spacers in the form of stock-aluminum tubing. To top it off, they often come with fixed feet that resemble metal drain plugs.  :p
All in all, they look like a first-year product design student's project. Nothing inherently bad with that, but aesthetically not very refined, and they certainly shouldn't be commanding such high prices with their lack of design refinement.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #795 on: Thu, 14 May 2015, 00:15:23 »
Without singling out any specific model, I think 'custom keyboards' that sandwich flat sheets of acrylic look incredibly cheap. In most of them, you can even see the lasercutter's step resolution along the curves/beveled edges. Exposed bolts/screws, and some with very clumsy looking spacers in the form of stock-aluminum tubing. To top it off, they often come with fixed feet that resemble metal drain plugs.  :p
All in all, they look like a first-year product design student's project. Nothing inherently bad with that, but aesthetically not very refined, and they certainly shouldn't be commanding such high prices with their lack of design refinement.
Don't even get me started on the ergodox varieties of sandwiching acrylic sheets!  :-*

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« Reply #796 on: Thu, 14 May 2015, 03:15:30 »
Without singling out any specific model, I think 'custom keyboards' that sandwich flat sheets of acrylic look incredibly cheap. In most of them, you can even see the lasercutter's step resolution along the curves/beveled edges. Exposed bolts/screws, and some with very clumsy looking spacers in the form of stock-aluminum tubing. To top it off, they often come with fixed feet that resemble metal drain plugs.  :p
All in all, they look like a first-year product design student's project. Nothing inherently bad with that, but aesthetically not very refined, and they certainly shouldn't be commanding such high prices with their lack of design refinement.
Don't even get me started on the ergodox varieties of sandwiching acrylic sheets!  :-*
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #797 on: Thu, 14 May 2015, 03:20:48 »
60% keyboards look weird. Tenkeyless looks stunted. Full-size looks fine. 122-key equals a whale.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #798 on: Thu, 14 May 2015, 03:50:38 »
60% keyboards look weird. Tenkeyless looks stunted. Full-size looks fine. 122-key equals a whale.

Full size are battleships.

I'm upset that ~60%s don't have F-keys, and I'm upset that I don't see many people upset about it.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #799 on: Thu, 14 May 2015, 03:51:47 »
60% keyboards look weird. Tenkeyless looks stunted. Full-size looks fine. 122-key equals a whale.

Full size are battleships.

I'm upset that ~60%s don't have F-keys, and I'm upset that I don't see many people upset about it.

Go 75%. Or use Fn layers like the rest of us. No need to be upset.
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