geekhack

geekhack Marketplace => Bro Caps => Artisan Services => The Athenaeum => Topic started by: Michael on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:51:40

Title: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Michael on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:51:40
Hey guys -


I would like to hear your feedback on the current CE offering, and how we could add more value or more likable addons to future offerings.


I will do my best to go through every question as best I can. Please keep strictly to the topic for this particular Q&A.


I won't be answering in real-time, so please have patience until I can get to your questions :)




***UPDATE***


Possible Future CE combinations


CE Pack #1:

Keycap
Mouse Pad
Themed Keycap Puller
Themed keychain switch


CE Pack #2:

Keycap
Themed Wrist Rest
Themed Keyboard Sleeve
Sticker


CE Pack #3:

Keycap
Mini-Comic Book
Pin / Badge
3" Figure
Title: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Bambino on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:53:29
What kind of special packaging are you planning? It would help us get an idea of the value we would get aside from the items listed. (A photo of the whole package with the rest of the images would be a good thing to add. In fact a picture of all of the items next to each other would be a good idea. Think this: (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160222/a8cfd14f85dfecf9c9a6481817bd59f9.jpg).)
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: WolfTickets on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:55:30
I know you guys don't like to state how many of each cap was made, but to truly have a "Collector's Edition", 1 of X should be molded into the cap or with accompanying paperwork. 
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:56:40
I love the offerings except for the shirt. While I do like the design as an artwork it's just not something I'm going to wear and therefore don't want to buy. The poster and sticker are great additions though!
I do think one of the offerings in a bundle should enhance or be useable with the keycap like maybe an one key keyboard that has similar colors to the cap it comes with and maybe that can be what was the Bro I.D. on it so they stay together? Or a keyswitch keychain? Obviously I have no idea if from a financial standpoint if these would be possible. Just think it might be a good replacement for a shirt.

Thanks for the Q & A Bro :) Good luck!!!
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:56:47
Do you still think the original idea is better?

And do you think if there was more information (about different packaging and quality of the other items), would people change their minds and think the price is fair? Or still want a cap only option?
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Hexterdude on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:57:20
Will the cap itself come in a special packaging or will all of the CE come in a pack? Also since they are essentially limited will you number them off like this cap is 1/50? Also i feel like adding a keychain switch tester would be nice. Price wise i think it should be pricey since it is a collectors edition
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:00:42
Sticker, poster, custom sleeve (switchnollie?), custom packaging, pins (like Punks Mummy Pin)

I like the t-shirt idea too but I feel everything listed above would fit a wider audience.

I'm all for the CE packages. I'm really hoping I can get in on this one and will definitely be entering into future ones.

The price of the package is definitely worth it at $125 for what you're getting IMO but everyone is different.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: katushkin on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:05:14
I think the package was fine. I can maybe see where people are coming from with the price, I think $100 is much more reasonable if you break it down, but I really like the fact that you get more than just a cap. While I'm not a fan of the gamer sets, I like being able to get something else with an artisan.

The t shirt is awesome I think. The artwork is freaking sweet, and I wear my GH hoodie all the time, so I would wear the **** out of that t shirt.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: appleonama on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:10:32
Quote from: WolfTickets on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:55:30
I know you guys don't like to state how many of each cap was made, but to truly have a "Collector's Edition", 1 of X should be molded into the cap or with accompanying paperwork.

highly agree with this
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: nmur on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:11:03
couple of ideas, ignoring actual feasibility entirely:
- exclusive JTK set with colour scheme matching CE cap (I loved the stormtrooper + TR8-0R combo, everybody loves keysets)
- exclusive switch tester (ie those CTRLALT aluminium ones) in the theme of the CE cap
- numbering to shove exclusivity (eg flux keypacitor)
- matching gamer set

I felt that the shirt and poster weren't super popular because they just weren't keyboard related items. we're all keyboard people here, but we may not all be printed tshirt people or poster people.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: SunPanda on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:12:45
I think that offering other things as well as caps is a great idea but in all of your future CE packages, you should put a cap only option in case some people aren't interested in some of the items.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Vittra on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:14:57
Personally, I understood the general concept so I didn't think the pricing was off. This is similar to the style of packaging that the EVGA or the defunct BFG example has offered with their GPUs, and there is an undeniable overlap between gamers, the mech kb community, and the "subset" as it were that is the artisan community.

That being said, they are things that I wouldn't personally use, and I'm not all that interested in items that will sit around collecting dust - which is completely okay, it means I'm not the target for this particular release.

I did like the idea beehatch had of something like a comic - I think that ties in with the story you're looking to convey without potentially requiring TOO much writing, and you've got the artistic chops no doubt. Problem is that is significantly more work and money and may meet even more resistance, but if it's a once in a year type thing to advance the story, perhaps it'd be worth it?

I also understand the reluctance to not state numbers, but 1 of x even if just on a Tru-Bro ID card would go a long way too. Far too complicated to have that on each individual keycap, I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: katushkin on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:15:25
I think putting an X/Y number on the bottom of the cap it just adds to the "elitism" aura surrounding artisans. I know it's not something created on purpose by the makers, but it's what people who are anti-artisan feel about them, and putting a "I have one of only five in existence" number on the bottom just gives keycap flippers another reason to add money to the price when they come to sell them on.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Michael on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:17:07
Quote from: Bambino on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:53:29
What kind of special packaging are you planning? It would help us get an idea of the value we would get aside from the items listed. (A photo of the whole package with the rest of the images would be a good thing to add. In fact a picture of all of the items next to each other would be a good idea. Think this:
Show Image
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160222/a8cfd14f85dfecf9c9a6481817bd59f9.jpg)
.)

I like that stuff to be a surprise for the most part. Also, the t-shirts are made once the orders are done, so I wouldn't be able to offer a full package shot.

However, in future offerings, I might just do a CGI mockup, perhaps.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Vittra on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:17:30
katushkin - I think it's important to realize this is already geared as a collector's edition release rather than just a regular bro caps sale, so expectations are a little different to begin with. For these particular ones, it may not be so bad an idea.

I definitely wouldn't want to see numbers for sales in general.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Michael on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:19:11
Quote from: WolfTickets on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:55:30
I know you guys don't like to state how many of each cap was made, but to truly have a "Collector's Edition", 1 of X should be molded into the cap or with accompanying paperwork.


This makes sense for a lot of things, however, as the post above regarding Diablo III collector's edition packages, it doesn't need to have numbering for it to be a CE.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: xondat on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:19:36
I think making the unboxing experience/box itself of the cap should come first when making a collectors edition (see Apples boxes or collector editions of some games). Having a top notch box will increase value more (for me) than a tshirt that I'd never wear in public, a poster and a sticker (I like the sticker idea though). If I were to do this, it'd be along the lines of:

I also think being realistic is good; it's a keycap, not a movie release. I'd expect t-shirt etc with a Star Wars EP7 collectors edition, not a keycap. I don't mean to be offense in any way, but this is what I think.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Pemdas on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:22:18
First off I love the writing aspect and the story behind the cap. Definitely gives the cap more depth and personality!

But on to the extras,

Personally I’m not a fan of shirts as an extra. They generally don’t match with my overall style and end up being unused and forgotten about. And in this case with the futuristic fighting for peace theme, I feel like a t-shirt is out of place. As for the stickers and poster, I really like those as items but I feel like they’re pretty “normal” things for a collector’s edition.

Perhaps something like an iron on Reaper squadron patch or perhaps a resin casted replica of the weapon that the reapers use instead of the shirt would’ve been better. Things I can display are always nice extras. Also matching gamer sets, matching brofist caps (I need those brofist caps to be released! :p),  I feel like there's a lot of possibilities past "shirt, poster, sticker"

Packaging is also a pretty big thing for me in collector’s editions. Even something like the cloth clack bags that had the designs on them would be nice :thumb:

As for pricing I had no problem with the $125, it might be pricey but hell it’s a collector’s edition it should be extravagant! I’d have no problem paying that price or more if the extras weren’t so “normal”

Overall I love that you're trying different things and can't wait to see what else you have in store.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Michael on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:23:42
Quote from: ccarlitos2 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:56:40
I love the offerings except for the shirt. While I do like the design as an artwork it's just not something I'm going to wear and therefore don't want to buy. The poster and sticker are great additions though!
I do think one of the offerings in a bundle should enhance or be useable with the keycap like maybe an one key keyboard that has similar colors to the cap it comes with and maybe that can be what was the Bro I.D. on it so they stay together? Or a keyswitch keychain? Obviously I have no idea if from a financial standpoint if these would be possible. Just think it might be a good replacement for a shirt.

Thanks for the Q & A Bro :) Good luck!!!


Yea, we are trying to find the best balance of things that are the most appealing to a large audience. A keychain would be nice, also.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Michael on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:25:40
Quote from: asdfjkl36 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:56:47
Do you still think the original idea is better?

And do you think if there was more information (about different packaging and quality of the other items), would people change their minds and think the price is fair? Or still want a cap only option?


Since this is our first offering of such a package, we have to allow for some trial and error, as well as the customer. We always listen to constructive feedback, so with the feedback we have received currently,
we made the call to adjust pricing and offerings outside of the CE.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: WolfTickets on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:25:47
Quote from: Vittra on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:17:30
katushkin - I think it's important to realize this is already geared as a collector's edition release rather than just a regular bro caps sale, so expectations are a little different to begin with. For these particular ones, it may not be so bad an idea.

I definitely wouldn't want to see numbers for sales in general.


Exactly.  When all the other stuff (poster, sticker, shirt, packaging) gets lost, faded, torn, etc., what on the actual cap makes this a CE other than just a different colorway? 
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Michael on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:28:07
Quote from: xondat on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:19:36
I think making the unboxing experience/box itself of the cap should come first when making a collectors edition (see Apples boxes or collector editions of some games). Having a top notch box will increase value more (for me) than a tshirt that I'd never wear in public, a poster and a sticker (I like the sticker idea though). If I were to do this, it'd be along the lines of:
  • Box
    • The story on some paper
    • Different compartments for everything that comes with it
  • Cap
  • Pin
  • Sticker
  • Coin
I also think being realistic is good; it's a keycap, not a movie release. I'd expect t-shirt etc with a Star Wars EP7 collectors edition, not a keycap. I don't mean to be offense in any way, but this is what I think.


That makes sense. I think I will create a list in the OP as to possible future offerings, then do a final list and poll on what we should add.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:28:09
Quote from: Bro Caps on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:23:42
Quote from: ccarlitos2 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:56:40
I love the offerings except for the shirt. While I do like the design as an artwork it's just not something I'm going to wear and therefore don't want to buy. The poster and sticker are great additions though!
I do think one of the offerings in a bundle should enhance or be useable with the keycap like maybe an one key keyboard that has similar colors to the cap it comes with and maybe that can be what was the Bro I.D. on it so they stay together? Or a keyswitch keychain? Obviously I have no idea if from a financial standpoint if these would be possible. Just think it might be a good replacement for a shirt.

Thanks for the Q & A Bro :) Good luck!!!


Yea, we are trying to find the best balance of things that are the most appealing to a large audience. A keychain would be nice, also.

Makes sense. And also if you sub the keychain out for a shirt and keep it at $100 price or maybe drop it down to $90 + shipping you don't have to worry about making the set made to order due to a shirt size :) which would allow you to do a full product shot of packaging and all the products. It would also probably make your life slightly easier as you don't have to worry about any delays with shirts.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Michael on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:30:12
Quote from: Pemdas on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:22:18
First off I love the writing aspect and the story behind the cap. Definitely gives the cap more depth and personality!

But on to the extras,

Personally I’m not a fan of shirts as an extra. They generally don’t match with my overall style and end up being unused and forgotten about. And in this case with the futuristic fighting for peace theme, I feel like a t-shirt is out of place. As for the stickers and poster, I really like those as items but I feel like they’re pretty “normal” things for a collector’s edition.

Perhaps something like an iron on Reaper squadron patch or perhaps a resin casted replica of the weapon that the reapers use instead of the shirt would’ve been better. Things I can display are always nice extras. Also matching gamer sets, matching brofist caps (I need those brofist caps to be released! :p ),  I feel like there's a lot of possibilities past "shirt, poster, sticker"

Packaging is also a pretty big thing for me in collector’s editions. Even something like the cloth clack bags that had the designs on them would be nice :thumb:

As for pricing I had no problem with the $125, it might be pricey but hell it’s a collector’s edition it should be extravagant! I’d have no problem paying that price or more if the extras weren’t so “normal”

Overall I love that you're trying different things and can't wait to see what else you have in store.


I think I might have been a bit biased in my personal love for t-shirts and posters for this :)


It was a gamble in a sense that I wanted all of this to be a surprise for everyone, but if I had asked what people wanted up front, it would spoil the surprise.
But we are discussing it now, so hopefully future releases will be on-point to what the community wants.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: ghastone on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:30:27
One thing I think that could make this really enticing is a special keycap holder for this, sort of like a ring box, just for a single keycap, maybe clear so it can be displayed on a desk, but kept safe in the display(just a thought). Also, I like the story behind the keycap and think you should continue to write! :). One thing that could be cool is to have a little piece of the story left out before you purchase, but finish the story and write it on a little scroll that comes with the package.

Some other thoughts:
I like the idea of having a 1 of x keycap mentioned in an above comment.
I'm not a huge fan of getting a t-shirt, I love the design, I just don't see myself wearing it.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: katushkin on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:30:50
Quote from: WolfTickets on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:25:47
Quote from: Vittra on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:17:30
katushkin - I think it's important to realize this is already geared as a collector's edition release rather than just a regular bro caps sale, so expectations are a little different to begin with. For these particular ones, it may not be so bad an idea.

I definitely wouldn't want to see numbers for sales in general.


Exactly.  When all the other stuff (poster, sticker, shirt, packaging) gets lost, faded, torn, etc., what on the actual cap makes this a CE other than just a different colorway?

The same way every other colourway is made special down to limited runs, because people remember. What makes the two metal V2s special other than the fact that they are metal when the certificate gets stolen? What makes the Freedom Eagle special? What makes a V1 Nightowl special? etc etc etc
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Michael on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:34:44
Quote from: WolfTickets on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:25:47
Quote from: Vittra on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:17:30
katushkin - I think it's important to realize this is already geared as a collector's edition release rather than just a regular bro caps sale, so expectations are a little different to begin with. For these particular ones, it may not be so bad an idea.

I definitely wouldn't want to see numbers for sales in general.


Exactly.  When all the other stuff (poster, sticker, shirt, packaging) gets lost, faded, torn, etc., what on the actual cap makes this a CE other than just a different colorway?


Another suggestion was to personally sign the Tru-Bro ID cards, as well as number them in sequence.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Bevo on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:35:24
Quote from: Bro Caps on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:19:11
Quote from: WolfTickets on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:55:30
I know you guys don't like to state how many of each cap was made, but to truly have a "Collector's Edition", 1 of X should be molded into the cap or with accompanying paperwork.


This makes sense for a lot of things, however, as the post above regarding Diablo III collector's edition packages, it doesn't need to have numbering for it to be a CE.

I agree that having a limited edition run number (1/xxx) would make the cap a lot more desireable and special. I'm all for this
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: naasfu on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:37:09
It seems like people were interested in getting specific items in the set, but everyone was interested in different things.  Some really wanted the cap, and others wanted the stickers or poster or shirt.  Would it be possible to just offer each item for purchase individually, but to preserve the collectible aspect of things, only make them available during a limited themed-sale time?  I have no clue about logistics for this kind of thing though.  I'm guessing this would complicate things like reaching MOQ to produce the lesser popular items without losing money on them.

Personally I avoid buying collector's edition packages (except for Blizzard's stuff since I need to have my matching boxes and exclusive digital mounts... damn you Blizz) since I don't have room for them, and I never end up using most of the stuff anyways. 
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: alexjd99 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:37:45
Some of the things I think would take it up a notch or two:
- Maybe more keyboard related stuff. I like the Shirt, Poster, and sticker, but i think extra keyboard related items would be cool too (sleeves, keycap pullers [if you could somehow incorporate special keycap pullers  :))], etc)
-This is where things may get a little weird, but I think keeping caps limited to the CE would be cool. Adds and extra level of exclusivity, and makes it more "collector-y" (Side note: Maybe you don't have to keep just the main keycap limited to the CE, but maybe others would be limited, like this current CE, a neon green/black themed gamer set or other caps to go along with it, and only available with the set, not entirely sure how this would fair with other's opinions, but I like limited extras and limited main, but that's jut my two cents)
-I think the ~125 price is fair. Obviously the price would change if you're adding sleeves, other keys, or who knows what, but I think that price is very fair.
-Display case. Either for just the cap, or somehow for everything. This would add a bit to the price, but I think it would be super cool
-I saw some others mention limited edition key testers. I think that would be neat too

Overall, I think changing it up every time would be the most important thing. Don't just have a shirt, poster, and sticker with every single one. Keeping them similar is nice (something smaller like a sticker would be great in every one though, I just think that repeating the same "main" add-ons would be as attractive as changing it up each time), but variety is also what sets them apart. Thinking about game releases that come with collectors editions like these, three that come to my mind are the ones for Far Cry 4, Fallout 4, and GTA V. They all had very different things in each collectors edition, but all also contained a few of the same things (they all came with posters, but the larger items differed greatly).

One question though, will we see more compatibility with these in future CE's? I think it would be nice to have an option of mx or Torpe stems for the CE.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Pemdas on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:37:52
Quote from: Bro Caps on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:34:44
Another suggestion was to personally sign the Tru-Bro ID cards, as well as number them in sequence.

Signing on the poster would be pretty nice too! It'd be a nice addition when it's framed up and displayed  :thumb:
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: jaffers on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:38:44
CE is nice. But I don't see myself spending that much money. Although there will always be people with money so I guess my opinion doesn't even matter
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Pdub on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:39:56
So I debated on posting this... My intention is not to offend anyone.

I have been here almost a year. I started off with nothing and moved up to having 8 boards and 20 something artisans.

I am all for change, life does often change.

If you want some feedback, I like the CEP, but its not for me. I respect what you are trying to do, and I hope it is very successful for you. I liked what you used to make not as a product, but as an idea. It felt like each cap was personal, and I liked that. It made me crave wanting one to match a board or key set. I am sad to see the old go. For example, I liked the email sales, the raffle sales. I mean I HATED not getting in on the Cosmos Sale, because I would have loved anything from it. I do like that you did the story background. I like to do writing as well, so it is nice to see someone else interested in that. Overall I understand you are getting a larger crowd. The email sales and sale threads are too hard to keep everything organized, I get it. I don't know what I want, but I hope you do what you do want. I also wish that others would be less critical (in a negative way) and demanding.

Note to others - If you like the cap, buy it. I sure do like the new reaper. If you don't like it, then just wait, I am sure more designs are on the way. Chill out and have a drink.
-Cheers.


Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: byker on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:40:04
Every brocap I win is usually a collector's edition, and here to stay.  ;)
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: TieuNgu on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:41:44
I'm all for custom sleeve, custom usb cable, stickers etc as a combined package, more related to keyboards stuff that are more likely to match the target audience's preference (especially since you want to deliver it as a surprise). I'm also not against (read, highly wishhhhh) of delivering a collaboration package with other cap makers. Imagine Reaper Squadron ft. Binge Ork in black and green theme @.@
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Michael on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:45:22
Quote from: alexjd99 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:37:45


One question though, will we see more compatibility with these in future CE's? I think it would be nice to have an option of mx or Torpe stems for the CE.




The only reason this particular keycap was not done in Topre, was because of the design of the key itself. It was too close for comfort, and sometimes caused sticking with Topre keyboards.


Future CE's will be with more compatible products.

Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: dohbot on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:53:05
Quote from: Bro Caps on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:34:44
Quote from: WolfTickets on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:25:47
Quote from: Vittra on Sun, 21 February 2016, 19:17:30
katushkin - I think it's important to realize this is already geared as a collector's edition release rather than just a regular bro caps sale, so expectations are a little different to begin with. For these particular ones, it may not be so bad an idea.

I definitely wouldn't want to see numbers for sales in general.


Exactly.  When all the other stuff (poster, sticker, shirt, packaging) gets lost, faded, torn, etc., what on the actual cap makes this a CE other than just a different colorway?


Another suggestion was to personally sign the Tru-Bro ID cards, as well as number them in sequence.

That'd be so cool!
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: dohbot on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:00:51
Personally, I have never bought a Collectors Edition anything (because I did not consider myself to be a collector), until tomorrow (hopefully :D). I think this is really cool. I love the cap, the trans half is really really cool and I love how it looks, I was just worried that it was not going to get used as often as I thought it should. But I'm getting to the point that I should remove the entire number row from my FC660M and just having an not matching board for a little bit. Plus I intend to get more keycap sets in the future, so it is likely that this will match something. And for such a sick cap, such an amazing backstory, and such cool extras, I just had to sign up for it.

Some stuff that I would suggest for future CE packs. The Bro keycap puller would be really amazing. I would definitely like new stickers. Keycap sets seem really cool but that combined with the sale would turn out to be a very short window of decision for buying a keycap set, or something like the toxic set incident. Sleeves, USB Cables, keyswitch keychains that match, display stands, and other stuff that shouldn't be too expensive but are still keyboard related seems like the way to go. I'd still like posters and T-Shirts (although I prefer to wear lighter colors), especially with the sick art that is on the posters and T-Shirts.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:11:53
I submitted a ticket when the CE launched. I though it was maybe a little pricey (mainly due to my currency conversion), but not too far off point. My main gripe is what someone else mentioned: the tshirt isn't really my style. I love the artwork, but I wouldn't wear it outside of chillin at home. I would much prefer something that could be displayed on my desk (home or at work) and I think there are already a lot of cool suggestions that have been thrown out there.

Bottom line. Really looking forward to how this style of offering plays out. Props for looking for feedback before the sale is even over, but remember to not try and please everyone!
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: crayzieap on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:16:18
My all time favorite collector edition set ---  $100 CE that included the game, wizard book and plushie.  NEEDZ MOAR PLUSHIES!!

(http://drh1.img.digitalriver.com/DRHM/Storefront/Company/namcous/images/NinoKuni8Lockup5751.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: dohbot on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:21:21
Quote from: crayzieap on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:16:18
My all time favorite collector edition set ---  $100 CE that included the game, wizard book and plushie.  NEEDZ MOAR PLUSHIES!!

Show Image
(http://drh1.img.digitalriver.com/DRHM/Storefront/Company/namcous/images/NinoKuni8Lockup5751.jpg)


Will pay big bux for plush Ribbit/Rustler.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: alexjd99 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:22:42
Quote from: dohbot on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:21:21
Quote from: crayzieap on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:16:18
My all time favorite collector edition set ---  $100 CE that included the game, wizard book and plushie.  NEEDZ MOAR PLUSHIES!!

Show Image
(http://drh1.img.digitalriver.com/DRHM/Storefront/Company/namcous/images/NinoKuni8Lockup5751.jpg)


Will pay big bux for plush Ribbit/Rustler.
+1
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: terminallytrill on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:26:28
I really like the idea of a patch someone had earlier. A badass reaper patch you could slap on a computer bag, a sleeve, a hat, or whatever. The design is so cool but like a lot of folks were saying I can't imagine myself wearing a shirt with a giant reaper on it.. Where a patch is more of an accent with some personal choice attached to it. Like a clothes sticker  :p

Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:26:58
I am generally not interested in CE stuff because I just don't collect them and most CE stuff are bulky. So, please no figurines in future. T-shirts and posters - I don't know what to do with them. But I'd be interested if it is keyboard related collectibles - someone mentioned a sleeve. That will be nice. Or a matching keyboard cable. Or key chain switches. Those I can relate to this hobby of collecting artisans. Also, they are small enough to keep and ship (yeah, shipping cost is crazy these days - I can't imagine the cost of this Collector's Ed)
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: aznairjordan on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:34:12
I'm on this site and reddit almost entirely for the keyboard stuff so my opinion on a collector's edition pack is different. I would love to see something like a matching artisan, keycap set, usb cable, keyboard sleeve, etc. The price is going to be way higher, but its all stuff that can be highlighted on a board and make it a whole unique collection.

An example would be the Reaper- N5 with a black/green keyset (http://bit.ly/2182ONz), usb cable (http://bit.ly/1LBA17v), and a reaper themed sleeve. I don't know how hard it would be to get a small round of keysets done by jtk but it would be awesome if it was offered.

edit: artisan collaborations would be pretty cool too. Topre themed reaper with matching Keykollectiv mods, switchnollies sleeves, and so on :)
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: modernWULF on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:48:29
i enjoy having the background story which further adds depth and personifies these artisan items.

I tended to buy a lot of CE's, but I have realized more and more that a lot of the additional items tend to go completely unused (such as T-shirts) and when that initial magic of opening the packages wares off I question if it was the right decision.

I agree with the other posts suggesting to include other keyboard related items. Keycap pullers, sleeves, sleeved cabling, switch displays, would feel complimentary and not just additional.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Sifo on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:49:04
if I don't get a 1/4 vinyl figurine of the reaper dude i'm out
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Permeability on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:53:53
Keyboard related things seems like the way to go. One thing I want to add that could be useful is a matching mouse pad
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: katushkin on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:55:45
Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:49:04
if I don't get a 1/4 vinyl figurine of the reaper dude i'm out

THAT would be sweet.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: xxxkaliboyxxx on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:56:04
Maybe a action figure or a plush toy and a comic with the keycap. Something small that wouldn't take much space.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: whmeltonjr on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:00:31
Quote from: Permeability on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:53:53
Keyboard related things seems like the way to go. One thing I want to add that could be useful is a matching mouse pad

Mouse pad sounds cool. I'm in agreement with many of the others. I would be down for sleeves, USB cables, and even keycap sets. The stickers are fine too, but I can't see myself wearing a shirt or hanging a poster on my wall. I do like the idea of CE stuff though, and did enjoy the story for the cap as well.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: profet on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:01:28
Keyboard related add ins would be much more appreciated than t-shirts and posters.

Some things I'd consider worthwhile for this buy:
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: romevi on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:10:31
Or a keycap puller in matching colors.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: BrainFlush on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:12:35
I liked the poster and the cap.
That's all I would want.
The price is your decision to make for the complete deal.
Another option would be total package for a set price and a cap + options\upgrades. Like in my view I would buy the cap and add on the poster.

As to future ideas. I think making Bro fist related merchandise is a really smart way to go. Imagine you make a cap in a certain color scheme and you also sell Bro fist magnets or posters or a vinyl toy or Keychain and etc to match the caps colors. That way they're still exclusive and limited and you'll have a variety of add-ons plus it'll be easier to work out a deal with a supplier for said items.

Good to see you taking it to the next level though. It was definitely a new way to do things. And that in itself is great. Also keep up the writing. You're passionate about it and that's all that matters. You could be the Todd McFarlane of keycaps. Books and toys.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:15:35
Quote from: romevi on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:10:31
Or a keycap puller in matching colors.
nice!
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: HouseofSuffering on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:25:34
I really like the idea. I too would like to see the contents more keyboard related as well.

I don't care about them being numbered, but I would like them to be somewhat special. Maybe a limited colorway or slightly different design that will never be released again.

Because in all honesty, lets say 40 pay for the collectors edition. That is 40 of those caps in that specific colorway out in the wild. Wouldn't a normal reaper in any of the many other triple shot colorways have a more limited production run and therefore be more rare?
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: appleonama on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:26:48
Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:49:04
if I don't get a 1/4 vinyl figurine of the reaper dude i'm out

bring back kidrobot vinvyls  :p
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: beehatch on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:26:57
just going to quote myself from this morning

Quote from: beehatch on Sun, 21 February 2016, 10:02:56
I thought the invasion sale was a neat idea and I certainly thought it appealed to the collector side. I wasn't completely sold on all the extras though. Just seemed like too expensive for what you were getting per se, but then again it was marketed to buyers who would be willing to throw down that cash. Maybe if it came out with a full fleshed out printed comic book, that would've been cool/worth it. Bro key-chains/pins would be a nice exclusive. As well as possibly a special type of packaging for a "collectors edition." Plus something you could use to display your bro cap along side the comic if you were to display both together.

Those are kinda expensive suggestions in terms of production, but I feel that would make it more special and worth it imo.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: katushkin on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:27:53
TBH, I want more keyboard related t shirts. Because I'm a ****ing nerd like that.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: rainb1ood on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:29:17
I liked the package. No complains so far.

Some thoughts: A model of the sniper rifle would be awesome. May maybe just a small plastic toy. Brocaps makes clean molds anyways.

Edit: in the Lego Brickomentary, the guy from Brick Arms was shown creating custom lego pieces. What tool was that?
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: KnivesM on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:43:12
You had said that you were going to have an overlap of the two sale so people could see both before they bought the first, is that still happening with the 1st sale already passing 24 hours? If so how much longer are you planning on keeping the 1st sale up as you said you were going to add the option for the keycap only and lowering the overall price. Not trying to rush or pester you, just curious. Also could we get the timer back for future CE sales?
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: dohbot on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:44:19
Quote from: KnivesM on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:43:12
You had said that you were going to have an overlap of the two sale so people could see both before they bought the first, is that still happening with the 1st sale already passing 24 hours? If so how much longer are you planning on keeping the 1st sale up as you said you were going to add the option for the keycap only and lowering the overall price. Not trying to rush or pester you, just curious.

Pretty sure the nightstalker sale is going to last a bit longer (through tomorrow) and the gamer set/classic reaper sale will start either tonight or tomorrow. (Bro didn't officially say tomorrow as he did yesterday)
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:46:59
Quote from: KnivesM on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:43:12
You had said that you were going to have an overlap of the two sale so people could see both before they bought the first, is that still happening with the 1st sale already passing 24 hours? If so how much longer are you planning on keeping the 1st sale up as you said you were going to add the option for the keycap only and lowering the overall price. Not trying to rush or pester you, just curious. Also could we get the timer back for future CE sales?

Cody is working on getting the edits done and the next sale up and running as per Bro's post in the Therapy thread.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: KnivesM on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:48:36
Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:46:59
Quote from: KnivesM on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:43:12
You had said that you were going to have an overlap of the two sale so people could see both before they bought the first, is that still happening with the 1st sale already passing 24 hours? If so how much longer are you planning on keeping the 1st sale up as you said you were going to add the option for the keycap only and lowering the overall price. Not trying to rush or pester you, just curious. Also could we get the timer back for future CE sales?

Cody is working on getting the edits done and the next sale up and running as per Bro's post in the Therapy thread.
Yea was just reading through the last couple pages of the therapy thread and saw that.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:49:55
Quote from: KnivesM on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:48:36
Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:46:59
Quote from: KnivesM on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:43:12
You had said that you were going to have an overlap of the two sale so people could see both before they bought the first, is that still happening with the 1st sale already passing 24 hours? If so how much longer are you planning on keeping the 1st sale up as you said you were going to add the option for the keycap only and lowering the overall price. Not trying to rush or pester you, just curious. Also could we get the timer back for future CE sales?

Cody is working on getting the edits done and the next sale up and running as per Bro's post in the Therapy thread.
Yea was just reading through the last couple pages of the therapy thread and saw that.  :thumb:

Gotcha. Bro is always on top of these things.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: KetchyKech on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:35:33
Quote from: romevi on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:10:31
Or a keycap puller in matching colors.

this!  At least one item being relevent to the hobby--keycap puller, keyswitch opener, matching colorway stickers for switches, ribbitv2 lube for switches  :))
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Michael on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:42:33
I added some possible CE package combinations in the OP. Let me know your thoughts on those. Perhaps mix and match some parts with others.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: TieuNgu on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:45:23
Pack #2 is pretty good, some add-ons that's not all of us would consider when we buy a keyboard
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: aznairjordan on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:46:34
Quote from: Bro Caps on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:42:33
I added some possible CE package combinations in the OP. Let me know your thoughts on those. Perhaps mix and match some parts with others.

Pack #2 and #3 look good to me! Would definitely pick up one of those
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Hexterdude on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:46:50
I think the best general CE  pack would be pack 1 because its everything a person could use with any set up. A sleeve would vary depending on a persons keyboard, this goes for the wrist pad as well. That being said since it is worth a pretty penny and people are willing to pay, Pack 2 is probably more appealing although it would probably take more time as the wrist rest and sleeves need to be custom made after the raffles.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: xxxkaliboyxxx on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:46:58
Wow, all good packages because I can see myself using or admiring all 3. Every package will be put to use. I of course will pick package 3 because I feel it will make the keycap that more special.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: katushkin on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:48:12
Number 3 for sure. I think a sleeve would leave you open to too many options to work with, too many people asking for too many different sizes.

As for the keycap puller, I'm not sure about giving them away, as I have about three of four but only ever use one because it's the best made one. Although I guess that could change.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: alexjd99 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:48:55
Quote from: Bro Caps on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:42:33
I added some possible CE package combinations in the OP. Let me know your thoughts on those. Perhaps mix and match some parts with others.
I think all of the things you included were great. It seemed like the second pack is the best IMO, but the third pack is also really cool too. A 3" figure would be so cool too, probably one of the coolest items on the list. That being said though, I like the ideas in all of them, and would buy any sort of combination of those items.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: dohbot on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:50:51
CE Pack 1 sounds really good. I'd absolutely need both the keycap puller and the keychain switch, and the keycap duh. CE Pack 2 sounds absolutely amazing too. Not sure what the themed wrist rest would be like, but I'd be interested to see. Sleeve is a must, and an absolutely amazing idea, and I really need stickers. Stickers are just my favorite addition to buying any keycap (except maybe the other stuff that you listed, but stickers are more ordinary and I can collect them more like from other artisans too). And CE Pack 3, oh boy! Mini Comic book would be perfect, that would be so amazing, although probably really hard to produce, same with the figure, although that is sooo cool. I'd love a figure so much, as for the pin and badge, I'm not sure if I'd use them, but they would serve the same goal as the figure for me.

If I were to suggest a mixed bag CE pack in order of desire, this is what it would look like:

CE Pack #1337
Keycap
3" Figure
Themed Keyboard Sleeve
Mini-Comic Book
Themed Keychain Switch
(Keypuller if space)
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Bevo on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:53:52
I'm not sure how realistic the 3" figure would be as im sure it would cost quite a bit with a high MOQ to have them produced. Would be cool to have though nonetheless
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Michael on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:55:57
Quote from: Bevo on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:53:52
I'm not sure how realistic the 3" figure would be as im sure it would cost quite a bit with a high MOQ to have them produced. Would be cool to have though nonetheless


I would be producing the figure. (Sculpting it and production, etc)
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: riotonthebay on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:56:42
Wrist rest + mouse pad would be badass.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Bevo on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:57:18
Quote from: Bro Caps on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:55:57
Quote from: Bevo on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:53:52
I'm not sure how realistic the 3" figure would be as im sure it would cost quite a bit with a high MOQ to have them produced. Would be cool to have though nonetheless


I would be producing the figure. (Sculpting it and production, etc)
Sold. Take my wallet please
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:57:40
I would have to say deciding between two and three is tough but I like them both more than choice one.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: whmeltonjr on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:59:26
CE #2 sounds like a winner. #1 would be second place. Figurines don't really do it for me personally, so #3 wouldn't interest me in terms of paying a premium price.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Zanduby on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:00:04
As an avid Lego minfig and vinyl figure collector, I would be so down for a 3" figure.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: chromatically on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:02:09
Quote from: Bro Caps on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:55:57
Quote from: Bevo on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:53:52
I'm not sure how realistic the 3" figure would be as im sure it would cost quite a bit with a high MOQ to have them produced. Would be cool to have though nonetheless


I would be producing the figure. (Sculpting it and production, etc)

definitely like the CE with the 3" figurine as well, especially if you're doing it.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Scgmdx2 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:04:59
I'm really digging the idea of #1, but a mousepad is the type of thing that people tend to get picky about. I feel like it would be hard to please everyone, with opinion being polarized about cloth or hard pads, not to mention all the smaller details. That being said, all of these ideas are sounding great, and it's nice to see you reaching out to the community for things like this.

Keep up the awesome work!
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Sissy on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:14:31
I very much like the idea of keypuller and wrist wrest, I love matching everything up
like right now my keyboard suits my bro and keysets
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Pemdas on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:16:00
In order of preference #3 > #2 > #1

I really like the idea of the 3" figure and comic book. That would truly put it into the collector's edition category, but that might sky rocket the price of the collection. 

I prefer #2 way over #1 only because I have a "performance" mousepad that I already use. I do like the key puller over the sleeve though.

All 3 are better than the current package though imo :thumb:


*edit* I feel like the sticker should always be included though. But that's probably my sticker love bias talking
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: romevi on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:17:46
Favorites so far are the keycap puller and sleeve (though I guess it would have to be up to the buyer to determine the size), the mini-comic (written by Bro), and the figure. It would be awesome if you can make custom LEGO figures; I know some sites do that, but dunno the cost of that. Maybe you can source the necessary parts yourself and print off your own decals?
That's my favorite combo.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: mixenmatch on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:21:59
I like pack 3 the best out of the options in the OP. A mini comic tells the story, the figure is the character or what have you, and then the cap and pin are smaller representations of the character that you can have with you.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: effectiveduck on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:34:36
A figure would be dope, I also like the idea of a key puller and/or sleeve but I can see potential logistical and cost problems with them.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Vimto on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:37:53
I liked this CE, but think some of these packs you suggested are way better (can we have an uber pack with everything?).
Maybe the mini comic book could be a digital for everyone who get's the cap, so no one misses out on the story and a printed /hand signed version for the CE.
I'd be scared the keychain switch could damage the keycap so would probably not use.

If I had to choose a pack it would probably be number 2

My personal preference of the extras in priority order would be:
1 key holder / mini keyboard (not in any of the packs, but i think it would be awesome as a way to display your keycap)
Themed Keyboard Sleeve
Themed Wrist Rest
3" Figure
Mouse Pad
Themed Keycap Puller
Themed Keychain Switch
Pin / Badge
Poster
Sticker (prefer the badge as it's more permanent)


Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: KnivesM on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:38:59
#3 would be awesome, the current kit is cool  3>current>2>1 personally.

Quote from: Vimto on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:37:53
I liked this CE, but think some of these packs you suggested are way better (can we have an uber pack with everything?).
I feel like that would be asking alot of Bro. :))
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: demik on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:45:50
Quote from: WolfTickets on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:55:30
I know you guys don't like to state how many of each cap was made, but to truly have a "Collector's Edition", 1 of X should be molded into the cap or with accompanying paperwork. 

CE != LE
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Baddy126 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:50:40
option 2 sounds best to me
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: HouseofSuffering on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:51:22
Just a thought what if the "future" collector editions came with a dibs ticket as one of the items, like you have done before (but for a single keycap only). Low cost and people would probably be stoked. Good for a single keycap of their choosing from a future sale. I know that not having to deal with the stress of not getting any caps at all and sitting by the computer all day and night, would make it worth it to me. Then people could just see what the next sale has and if nothing interested them, save it for the next sale.  Unless tracking and verifying a large amount of dib tickets would be a pain in the ass for you.....

Quote from: Bro Caps on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:51:40

CE Pack #1:

Keycap
Dibs ticket (good for one guaranteed future BRO)
Themed Keycap Puller
Themed keychain switch


CE Pack #2:

Keycap
Themed Wrist Rest
Themed Keyboard Sleeve
Sticker


CE Pack #3:

Keycap
Mini-Comic Book
Pin / Badge
3" Figure
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: alexjd99 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:59:33
Quote from: HouseofSuffering on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:51:22
Just a thought what if the "future" collector editions came with a dibs ticket as one of the items, like you have done before (but for a single keycap only). Low cost and people would probably be stoked. Good for a single keycap of their choosing from a future sale. I know that not having to deal with the stress of not getting any caps at all and sitting by the computer all day and night, would make it worth it to me. Then people could just see what the next sale has and if nothing interested them, save it for the next sale.  Unless tracking and verifying a large amount of dib tickets would be a pain in the ass for you.....

Quote from: Bro Caps on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:51:40

CE Pack #1:

Keycap
Dibs ticket (good for one guaranteed future BRO)
Themed Keycap Puller
Themed keychain switch


CE Pack #2:

Keycap
Themed Wrist Rest
Themed Keyboard Sleeve
Sticker


CE Pack #3:

Keycap
Mini-Comic Book
Pin / Badge
3" Figure
I'd be more than down for this. Can't believe this slipped my mind.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Oxid on Mon, 22 February 2016, 00:01:12
Hopping on the plushy train, though that may be a little difficult with the Reaper V2 design.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 22 February 2016, 00:02:50
Quote from: HouseofSuffering on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:51:22
Just a thought what if the "future" collector editions came with a dibs ticket as one of the items, like you have done before (but for a single keycap only). Low cost and people would probably be stoked. Good for a single keycap of their choosing from a future sale. I know that not having to deal with the stress of not getting any caps at all and sitting by the computer all day and night, would make it worth it to me. Then people could just see what the next sale has and if nothing interested them, save it for the next sale.  Unless tracking and verifying a large amount of dib tickets would be a pain in the ass for you.....

Quote from: Bro Caps on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:51:40

CE Pack #1:

Keycap
Dibs ticket (good for one guaranteed future BRO)
Themed Keycap Puller
Themed keychain switch


CE Pack #2:

Keycap
Themed Wrist Rest
Themed Keyboard Sleeve
Sticker


CE Pack #3:

Keycap
Mini-Comic Book
Pin / Badge
3" Figure

I don't think this is all that great of an idea.

It guarantees two caps to someone who was lucky enough to get one already.

Dibs tickets in my opinion should not be given out so readily.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Liocer on Mon, 22 February 2016, 00:04:34
I really like the sticker. More stickers all round!
Title: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Mon, 22 February 2016, 00:06:36
I think my ideal CE package would be

Keycap
Sticker
Mouse pad
Keychain switch
Keyboard sleeve (60% or HHKB sized)

I like this because everything can be used and none of it you have to worry about sizes. The problem with a wrist rest is a lot of people have varying sized boards from 60% to tkl to full size and everything in between. It would be hard to standardize it. At least with a sleeve most people won't be traveling with a tkl or full size. Everyone can use a mousepad and the keychain switch can be a display case of sorts for the specific keycap.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: HouseofSuffering on Mon, 22 February 2016, 00:08:16
Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 22 February 2016, 00:02:50
Quote from: HouseofSuffering on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:51:22
Just a thought what if the "future" collector editions came with a dibs ticket as one of the items, like you have done before (but for a single keycap only). Low cost and people would probably be stoked. Good for a single keycap of their choosing from a future sale. I know that not having to deal with the stress of not getting any caps at all and sitting by the computer all day and night, would make it worth it to me. Then people could just see what the next sale has and if nothing interested them, save it for the next sale.  Unless tracking and verifying a large amount of dib tickets would be a pain in the ass for you.....

Quote from: Bro Caps on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:51:40

CE Pack #1:

Keycap
Dibs ticket (good for one guaranteed future BRO)
Themed Keycap Puller
Themed keychain switch


CE Pack #2:

Keycap
Themed Wrist Rest
Themed Keyboard Sleeve
Sticker


CE Pack #3:

Keycap
Mini-Comic Book
Pin / Badge
3" Figure

I don't think this is all that great of an idea.

It guarantees two caps to someone who was lucky enough to get one already.

Dibs tickets in my opinion should not be given out so readily.

I thought it would be best on "future" sales only, not the one that it was purchased on. One guaranteed future keycap is not that much, when some people are lucky enough to get multiples anyways.....
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Jemaunji on Mon, 22 February 2016, 00:12:51
New combinations are actually awesome and I think they are all good ideas! I have yet to invest in a wrist rest and my keycap puller broke so that's awesome.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 22 February 2016, 00:13:24
Quote from: HouseofSuffering on Mon, 22 February 2016, 00:08:16
Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 22 February 2016, 00:02:50
Quote from: HouseofSuffering on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:51:22
Just a thought what if the "future" collector editions came with a dibs ticket as one of the items, like you have done before (but for a single keycap only). Low cost and people would probably be stoked. Good for a single keycap of their choosing from a future sale. I know that not having to deal with the stress of not getting any caps at all and sitting by the computer all day and night, would make it worth it to me. Then people could just see what the next sale has and if nothing interested them, save it for the next sale.  Unless tracking and verifying a large amount of dib tickets would be a pain in the ass for you.....

Quote from: Bro Caps on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:51:40

CE Pack #1:

Keycap
Dibs ticket (good for one guaranteed future BRO)
Themed Keycap Puller
Themed keychain switch


CE Pack #2:

Keycap
Themed Wrist Rest
Themed Keyboard Sleeve
Sticker


CE Pack #3:

Keycap
Mini-Comic Book
Pin / Badge
3" Figure

I don't think this is all that great of an idea.

It guarantees two caps to someone who was lucky enough to get one already.

Dibs tickets in my opinion should not be given out so readily.

I thought it would be best on "future" sales only, not the one that it was purchased on. One guaranteed future keycap is not that much, when some people are lucky enough to get multiples anyways.....

I understand what you meant but what I'm saying is you win in"this sale" and get a dibs ticket and then are guaranteed another in the next sale.

I just foresee it being more trouble than anything.

I still stand by the fact that dibs tickets should be given out sparingly and with great discretion.

I would also prefer that the CE came with things that only related to the cap being sold.

There is also the chance someone goes and tries to sell a dibs ticket. That's just a whole new cluster**** waiting to happen.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Mon, 22 February 2016, 01:29:35
All the options seem pretty cool.
They seem to each have their pros and cons
Ex:
-Mouse pads get dirty with use, so I'd probably just keep it in a drawer (no fun)
-sleeves have different sizes that must be made

But overall I think anything has the possibility of being a great option for the pack.

But I'm all for shirts. I enjoy wearing my GH shirts and other keyboard related goodies. Maybe just have simple designs like the bro fist with the main color scheme of that sale and maybe the sale's name? Patches with the same thing / stickers

Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: OTD on Mon, 22 February 2016, 01:39:36
Are the mouse pads going to be side stitched so we can always throw it in the washer without worrying that it will fall apart?
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 22 February 2016, 01:44:25
I really liked the pack 2 idea
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Lokomotivet on Mon, 22 February 2016, 02:29:38
I personally have no more wall space for posters and I already have way too many t-shirts. :(

The current mock-ups in the OP looks promising! CE pack #3 is my favorite.
I'm a huge fan of pins and badges and would LOVE to have a reaper squadron embroidered badge (just like the sticker) on my jacket!

A small vinyl figure would also be pretty cool but that could be a lot of work. One thing that could make it even better and perhaps easier to make would be if the figure is faceless/has no head. Instead there's a switch stem so you can insert the cap in place as the head/face of the figure.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Jokrik on Mon, 22 February 2016, 02:36:21
PIN
definitely PIN :)

I like #3, since for things like mousepads and stuff we all have different preferences and if it ended up in someone not liking it will be a waste
something that can be displayed would be great, so that it can remind us about you Bros and ctrl alt team, forever and ever and ever

aww....
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: GenKaan on Mon, 22 February 2016, 03:07:20
I think the bundle is a nice way of keeping out some of the people trying to flip them for a profit, as well as (hopefully) making them a little more profitable for you. I like the idea but t-shirts are hard. Unless the person is a hardcore fan, odds are its not going to work for them with their current wardrobe

Some of the things that would make me interested in paying +$150 for a themed artisan bundle:

Must:
Memorable name (Good: TR8-0R SAL3 / Cosmos Sale / Winter Is Coming / Blackout and Bad: Easter Sale / Sorry you missed out, bro / Toxic)
Stickers (themed around the cap)
A personal message centered around the creative process that went into making the cap, color choices, timing, and who the cap is for (generally, not the individual)
A different stamp (or design that wont make it to regular raffles) than the rest of the caps, making them even more limited and easy to spot
Custom/non standard zipper bags!

and.... GLITTER!

Very interesting:
Keychain switch with LED like this one I picked up from ctrlalt.io
(http://i.imgur.com/N3ZlDCX.jpg)
Keyboard sleeve
Wooden wrist rest with the name of the sale engraved in the bottom right corner (could break budget)
A simple blank FN (for Topre) or Esc (for Mx) using the same colors as the actual cap. Maybe only with a stamp
Mini-comic book (could replace the personal message)

Would like / fun things:
Fridge magnet
Keypuller
Phone case
Pin

The dream:
1.25 unit transparent color matching modifier, please make this happen for the love of göd!
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: zennasyndroxx on Mon, 22 February 2016, 03:14:47
the ultimate CE addon would be a book with pictures of your previous works, bbv1s, v2s, reapers and others. one page per cap.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: henz on Mon, 22 February 2016, 03:22:30
i like #3 option.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Malenky on Mon, 22 February 2016, 03:48:48
Collectors edition should be all about the experience. You want to generate those "unboxing" videos, where presentation of the product is considered throughout.

I know it's a long way off, but I feel like this is getting close to being mainstream viable. Have any considerations been made as to contacting mainstream "gaming" peripheral makers, such as Razer? I feel like the whole story and theme is right up their street, and I know from experience that young gamers would go crazy over something like this.

If the above were to happen, I think a custom USB cable would be a good replacement for a tshirt, as kids grow out of tshirts and generally wreck them!

P.S. The current CE suits me and I feel like the price tag is very fair.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: mobbo on Mon, 22 February 2016, 07:55:29
I finally have some time to make a comment. I do want to start by saying I opted to skip out on this sale - not because of price or content, but simply because the Reaper V2 and that colorway is not my cup of tea, and I've stopped entering sales just for the sake of entering them. Especially something like a CE, I wouldn't feel right if it wasn't something I was really interested in keeping.

I don't think the contents or picking the perfect combinations of items to make the "perfect" collector's edition for everyone is of priority here. Everyone is going to want something slightly different, so you could be tweaking this package forever (although I think changing up contents on future CE releases is a great idea). You could tweak it and release a sleeve, or keychain or whatever, but let's be honest - people will still be making the same kinds of comments, wishing there was something else.

Personally, I would have liked to have just seen the package reduction from $125 to $100. I thought this was a much more reasonable price point for the package, while keeping everything together thematically. I realllyy didn't like seeing the cap go up for purchase on it's own. To me that defeats the purpose of a Collector's Edition. Why would I buy a collector's edition of anything when I can buy it's most desirable component at retail?

Depending on how you want to launch CE's in the future, there could be some interesting possibilities. For one, I think you need to make them extremely limited and make sure they know how limited (i.e. 100 specified units with numbering on the product).  In my mind, the purpose of Collector's Edition package isn't to appeal to the masses and make it widely available. It should be an easy decision for die-hard fans and it should have COLLECTORS value (contain things that would be valuable to those Brocaps collectors out there). Unfortunately, it is hard to achieve this perceived value with brand new products (which is why a lot of collector's edition video games include classic components to invoke that sense of nostalgia). Something that I would be interested in at that price point: a CE including all past and present versions of a design (i.e. Reaper v1, v2, classic), in a matching colorway. Heck I know lots of people would be fine paying $125 for this package, even without additional merchandise. I know this touches on the issue of revisiting old designs, but for the purpose of collector's editions, I think it may be warranted. It all depends on how often you want to release these CE's, in what quantity, whether you want to do a themed release again, and whether CE's are exclusively for new designs.

So much work went into this release, and I thought it strange that all the people saying "not for me, but I'd love the cap on it's own though" actually got their way. I should clarify that I'm not salty people are getting what they want - I'm salty that Bro put in countless hours of conceptual and manual work to give us a unique launch with back story, and that the resounding reactions (even the positive ones) were "it costs too much" (by the way...if you think the price even remotely covers the amount of work put into something like this...think again) or "cool, but I just want the cap" (imo that's not the point of this CE!!).

I appreciate you taking all of our input into consideration, but don't let our entitlement change what YOU want to do. I was fanboying pretty hard over the poster art to my roomates when looking at the sale and I would be personally bummed if this piece of art was replaced by say - a keychain. It should go without saying that I love the idea of a themed release, whether it be for future CE sales, or regular raffles.

In the end only you and the guys behind the scenes know what it really takes and what is really feasible. Thanks for all your hard work, and I look forward to future CE releases (if that is the plan).
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: DAVYtm on Mon, 22 February 2016, 08:44:51
Quote from: Bro Caps on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:51:40
***UPDATE***


Possible Future CE combinations


CE Pack #1:

Keycap
Mouse Pad
Themed Keycap Puller
Themed keychain switch


CE Pack #2:

Keycap
Themed Wrist Rest
Themed Keyboard Sleeve
Sticker


CE Pack #3:

Keycap
Mini-Comic Book
Pin / Badge
3" Figure

I really like all of these packs honestly. Probably #3 the most because a 3" figure would look awesome on my desk. I really do love the poster included in the current CE, I just don't really have a place to hang it at the moment. I think these three packs would be popular, especially if different CEs use different options from these packs.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: ripwallet on Mon, 22 February 2016, 09:04:42
I'm a fan of the #2 CE package, i would definitely use the products offered in the 2nd package. I admire you getting into creative writting and combing your current interests, and i'm also a big fan of the cap, just the price range is a bit out of reach for me.

I would get a lot of use out of the CE proposed future package #1 and #2. Looking forward to future packages

Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: LXXXIX on Mon, 22 February 2016, 09:34:11
Personally I like a combination of what you have in mind. I'd like the pack to include;

Keycap
Sticker
Themed Keyboard Sleeve
Themed Keycap Puller

Although, #3 would be an absolute dream, but I feel you would need to charge a lot more for something of this caliber. I wouldn't mind paying for something extra special, but it might put off a lot of people. These are your creations, what and how you deliver them if up to you. I got yo back dawg. :cool:

I always like to be surprised. :thumb:

Edit: A lot of what people are suggesting are some fairly larger/time consuming items. Be aware that the more "big-ticket" items you add it SHOULD warrant a higher cost. Bro Caps is on his own. A $100 box set that was manufactured in a warehouse across the seas isn't the same as someone putting their own time and effort into each item by hand. I'm not saying these ideas are bad, but so many people complained about the cost when they seen the price-tag for the Nightstalker collector's edition.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: NeonBacon on Mon, 22 February 2016, 10:29:04
I can't decide which I like more! I love the idea of a keyboard sleeve from #2 and #3's figure would also sell it to me, maybe you could go through them as you develop and progress your story so each CE is varied?
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Frizer on Mon, 22 February 2016, 10:55:33
I actually thought the CE as launched was a cool idea (after the price adjustment) but this design is not something I am into style wise. If it had been a V2 and some kind of Mecha design sticker and T-Shirt I would have entered the raffle.

That said I like your CE #2 idea.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: deduction on Mon, 22 February 2016, 11:36:33
I would love to see a package that includes the 'marquee' items from each pack, something like:

Key Cap
Keyboard Sleeve
Figurine
Wrist Wrest/Mouse Pad

Also I would really love to see you begin edition numbering for collector's edition items.  This is a really common concept among various 'collector' art scenes.  I think having known finite production run, and where the collector's items came in that run, really adds to the exclusivity and the allure of owning a definitive piece of your creative effort.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Vadurr on Mon, 22 February 2016, 16:44:50
CE #2 seems perfect!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Telephasic on Mon, 22 February 2016, 19:30:06
I think the packaging could make things a little more interesting and collectible. A handcrafted box or envelope or something would be cool.  Some wicked rubber stamps would be so much fun.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: MrRooks on Mon, 22 February 2016, 19:53:00
I find #2 the most attractive mostly for the sleeve, I like that idea.

*edit* 1 is pretty nice as well thinking about it more.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: piemancoder on Mon, 22 February 2016, 20:46:23
I would pick a combination of all of them. For example:

Keycap
Keychain switch
3" Figure
Mini comic
Sticker
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: gain on Mon, 22 February 2016, 21:03:52
You could ditch the figure and I'd still ride #3 pretty hard to be honest, love me a neat comic.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: theteam on Tue, 23 February 2016, 00:12:22
i'm down for option 2>3>1 in that order
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Dongulator on Tue, 23 February 2016, 00:41:59
I think there should be something different in the each sale. Some should have a comic, some should not. Most should have a pin/badge and sticker. For the special ones do the case and wrist rest etc...
It might get stale if I'm always expecting the CE's to have the same general things.

However, it might make things a little more difficult on Bro and his fam trying to switch things up.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: crbr on Tue, 23 February 2016, 10:53:04
#3 looks most appealing.  Each of the other three categories have something I am too particular about (ie mouse pads) to use, but I feel like I would get more use/fun out of #3.   :thumb:
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: 64rky on Tue, 23 February 2016, 19:30:40
I would have totally gone,  and would go for #1

:)
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: DarthBories on Tue, 23 February 2016, 20:00:29
I like #1 the most.  I think most if not all the items should relate directly to keyboards.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: keshley on Thu, 25 February 2016, 08:19:32
In regards to the current CE bundle: I think the pricing is pretty reasonable. Good printed t-shirts cost anywhere from $20-35, and that's for items that are probably a bigger run than Bro is doing here. Nobody scoffs at paying $40-70+ for a Mondo poster, which are limited run, but still certainly a much bigger run than the Reaper Squadron poster. Plus stickers.

For future CE runs: I like the idea behind the mix and match options. That brings a level of personalization to the Collector's Editions that I think can provide even more enjoyment.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Bromono on Thu, 25 February 2016, 08:41:06
I really like keycap puller and sleeve ideas
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Ryukuxyz on Fri, 26 February 2016, 10:08:25
Package #2 looks the best for me, personally, but package #1 is pretty sweet as well. You would definitely have to make sure to allow entrants to clarify which size wrist rest/keyboard sleeve they want, to prevent someone using a 60% from getting a TKL sleeve.  :D Also. it would be cool to choose the switch option that the keychain uses. I'm sure you guys have thought of all this already, but just clarifying. :P
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 01 March 2016, 23:04:30
a themed wrist wrest sounds pretty awesome!
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: 3K on Thu, 03 March 2016, 06:55:13
Another item I would like to see in packages are bags! I admit, the chances are low, that someone will recognize for example the [CTRL]ALT logo on the streets, but still. It would be some kind of hide-your-power-level type of advertisement.

I'm talking about shopping bags, or gym bags. A simple pink with the updside down black cross, or the [CTRL]ALT logo, or a stylized reaper face.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 05 March 2016, 07:19:22
I love the idea of the themed keychain switch. Most of everything else would be lost on me since I probably wouldn't use any/much of it. Tshirt, mouse pad, etc.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Hispes on Sat, 05 March 2016, 08:52:39
I really think mobbo nailed it.

1. You do you (you can't please everyone all of the time)
2. CE cap should only be available as part of the CE package
3. Switching up CE package contents from release to release will encourage different people to purchase them
4. $100-$125 is a great price point for all the extras and exclusivity
5. If all else fails, go back to 1 :thumb:
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Waateva on Sat, 05 March 2016, 10:37:33
I would definitely be the most interested in idea #1 followed by #, but a mix-n-match idea would be really cool too!
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: Liocer on Sat, 05 March 2016, 10:55:17
Quote from: Hispes on Sat, 05 March 2016, 08:52:39

2. CE cap should only be available as part of the CE package

^ This  :thumb:
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 05 March 2016, 15:32:59
Quote from: Hispes on Sat, 05 March 2016, 08:52:39
I really think mobbo nailed it.

1. You do you (you can't please everyone all of the time)
2. CE cap should only be available as part of the CE package
3. Switching up CE package contents from release to release will encourage different people to purchase them
4. $100-$125 is a great price point for all the extras and exclusivity
5. If all else fails, go back to 1 :thumb:

You hit the nail on the head with this one.
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 05 March 2016, 15:34:36
make a taco dinner kit bro edition
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: rioc on Mon, 07 March 2016, 08:01:42
Hi

I'd be happy with all 3 CE package variations (one sale after another)...
also, the original price you set for the reaper invasion CE would have been fine in my regard. I'm guessing the 100$ price tag you made later on will just barely make you break even regarding the investment made. (Depending on how many units were made, but since it's CE I guess not too much)...

as for making the CE cap available seperately; Only the surplus ones should be available like that, otherwise, if there's enough CE packages to cover all the CE caps, I think they should be bundled... (oh my, I know that decreases my chances of grabbing another one, but that's the risk I guess) ;)

cheers
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 27 March 2016, 16:44:40
let me get that mouse pad son!!!
Title: Re: Let's discuss future CE packages (Q&A)
Post by: zzyjayfree on Wed, 30 March 2016, 14:59:47
I like pkg #2 the most. For #1 I personally have more then enough mouse pad than I need, but themed key puller and key chain sounds really great. For #3 I think mini comic book is gonna cost you a lot of time to finish...But pin and 3" figure will be really nice.