i hope this creates a great relationship with kbdmania!
ARROWS LOOK TERRIBLE :B
really interested in this set
Eeek, another red on black DS groupbuy... might be interested, but what am I going to do with my Ragnarok set?
Hmmm, no exocet on the nav cluster? (had to find something to complain about or I might by several)
I thought we were already bridged. LoL
Nice group buy. How much is the custom legending cost for all of those? (must be quite expensive)
Man.. why did I ever find geekhack :'(
I would like one, please.
I am in! This is going to look sick! We better get this going soon or we won't have it ready by May 15th!
Roman numerals? Yes please! Why are none of the T's consistent? Different T's for ctrl and alt? Why?
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I love that menu key. Number row is great, too. I have always been meaning to play through diablo.
I'm interested.
Will the print screen, etc keys have a better/different font than what's shown currently?
My wallet is safe unless this somehow has a small left shift. :P
Sample of how changes will look like:
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Top row is the recreated font. Bottom row is the original.
But WHY??? Typefaces are not copyrightable in the USA, so SP should have no problems with using the original font.
It's SP's drillbit that is the limitation.(suggestion: Get a finer drillbit. ;-)
It's SP's drillbit that is the limitation.
Wow hazeluff, that set looks great!
Not sure if I'll jump in though.
As i understand it, SP uses a Roland CNC machine to create a 4"x4" lexan block model of each legend, then a brass cutter to reduce that down. Surely the serifs do not have to be so egregiously castrated!
Look at KBDRUNNER. He has SHARP 90° corners. Not rounded. Obviously, sharp edges are possible.
we have 176 orders and it's still growing up. (try hard to catch us :p)
hello guys. i'm Jung from KR team(kbdmania)
we have 176 orders and it's still growing up. (try hard to catch us :p)
just ordered first trial kit. and actual image will revealed as soon as possible.
seeya guys, with positive updates.
The font is like that. Most keys have same upper and lower case. But T is different for both upper and lower. I can change that if too many people disagree.
hello guys. i'm Jung from KR team(kbdmania)
we have 176 orders and it's still growing up. (try hard to catch us :p)
just ordered first trial kit. and actual image will revealed as soon as possible.
seeya guys, with positive updates.
i'm in.
my wife is gonna kill me.
I like the + for T, but the T ought to be a + as well as C+RL. Just sayin'....
Actually no, if you look at the wikipedia entry, the Exocet font while primarily an all-caps font has substitution for T/+. So while it may be a little odd, it is correct and true to the font.
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Actually no, if you look at the wikipedia entry, the Exocet font while primarily an all-caps font has substitution for T/+. So while it may be a little odd, it is correct and true to the font.
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They can create fairly sharp edges when they feel like it. You have to visualize how a font is cut.
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I will however not be engaging in this Group Buy and meditating in my subforum. GLWIC (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?24707-Why-Is-The-Ripster-So-Darn-Pissed-At-Signature-Plastic-Key-Group-Buys&p=465725&viewfull=1#post465725).
For Devil Worshiping may be the current state of Geekhack but I have turned away from the Dark Side.
It is a man's own mind, not his enemy or foe, that lures him to evil ways.
Namaste.
Yes, notice how all the sharp edges are inside corners of the legend, or outside corners of the keycap/background.
On the bottom of V the inside corner will be sharp, the outside not so much, same with the Q intersect and a ton of other legends (<>DBER ...)
(suggestion: Get a finer drillbit. ;-)
Seriously, that number row is awesome. IN.
Lol... How did I not see this? Hazel all you had to do was ask and I would have done it. I'm a huge Diablo fan. Oh well. I guess I'll take a set when it comes time to place orders. Looks sick though!
Lol... How did I not see this? Hazel all you had to do was ask and I would have done it. I'm a huge Diablo fan. Oh well. I guess I'll take a set when it comes time to place orders. Looks sick though!
Which color were the keycaps planned to be, btw? You said dark grey, but it would be nice to know how dark (I don't have the sp color palette lying around either, so I can't really check if there are even more than one option D: ).
Just wondering, but will the stepped caps lock be center stemmed?
Interest Check to this point
Base set: 87
ISO: 1
10 Key: 2
I doubt ISO will make it (unless it becomes fashion in Korea, that is xD), but if it does — count me in on that. A small left shift is enough for me though to make me rape my wallet.
10key as well, but that might turn out expensive due to the custom legends. But at least Koreans might order it, too, so with let’s say 50 orders it already is more than acceptable (for me), and it should be fairly easy to reach that number. I don’t know how the 10key/10keyless ratio is in Korea, though.
Much like the nav cluster, the 10key will probably be normal font, same color scheme. It's better to have some kind of matching 10key than none at all.
They got fairly cheap with Rag's group buy as well, so I don't think that's a problem.
That's true, but depending on how much interest there is from Korea the numpad would just cost 5-10$ extra with the "right" legends, and roman numbers are just bucking awesome. :-P
/edit: wait, we are at 89 already? I'm proud :-D
I was nearly ecstatic when I saw the initial image. I've loved the Exocet font since my Diablo 2 addiction waaaaay back during my middle school days. Then the sad reminder of the legend limitations in shape. Until I see the prototypes, I'm gonna have to remain on the fence for whether I'll be in for a set. I absolutely love the idea, but I'm just afraid of the elegance of this font being lost with all-rounded serifs. Also, whoever came up with the roman numerals row, I wanna buy them a beer :P
Ultimately, I would be in for a 104 set if the prototypes turn out nice. Maybe 2 if the gf likes it too ^^
i just want that diablohead and tyrael win keys
I was nearly ecstatic when I saw the initial image. I've loved the Exocet font since my Diablo 2 addiction waaaaay back during my middle school days. Then the sad reminder of the legend limitations in shape. Until I see the prototypes, I'm gonna have to remain on the fence for whether I'll be in for a set. I absolutely love the idea, but I'm just afraid of the elegance of this font being lost with all-rounded serifs. Also, whoever came up with the roman numerals row, I wanna buy them a beer :P
Ultimately, I would be in for a 104 set if the prototypes turn out nice. Maybe 2 if the gf likes it too ^^
Also, whoever came up with the roman numerals row, I wanna buy them a beer :P
I pre-ordered the Collector's Edition of Diablo III and I think I should play The Game with this set on my keyboard but main problem is that right now I only have a Japanese Filco with reds and don't have any plan to buy an ANSI Tenkeyless.
I guess I could fit them in the Poker but blue alu case doesn't match the colour scheme of the keycaps :mmph:
If only this was possible for Topre :eyebrows:
You want to buy Jung (ahoocom) a beer then.
What do you need to make it compatible?
I will explain the best I can:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9nhyY.jpg)
Numbers 1-2-4 are single keys so I can use this but will miss one:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RlLMc.png)
To fit on numbers 9-10 I can use a mix of Extra number row and the normal number row so there should be no problem here. Blanks could be possible with red colour or Grey.
I will miss numbers 3-5-6-7-8:
3 - Spacebar with different size that I think is not made by Signature Plastics. Here is a problem.
5 - Single key that could be blank.
6 - Single key that could be blank.
7 - ISO Enter.
8 - Shift that have the size of Caps Lock key, the same used on Noppo Choc Mini and Dox keyboard.
I will miss some keys that SP can make and I can afford the price even if it's high but the spacebar is the main problem that I think can't be fixed. It's quite a mess and don't know if it's worth the effort. Do you know if over at KBDmania people have japanese keyboards? Maybe someone could be interested. It will need 6 extra keys apart from your sets but the spacebar is not possible I think.
I will get the set even if it doesn't fit the japanese keyboard but would be cool.
We can fix 5,6,7 easily with the ISO key. The problem is the Shift key. If we made an "ISO" kit, we could make it the "Compatiblility" kit that will have keys to fit a choc mini as well? I think I'm pushing too far for this. Can't please everyone... = /
I'll have a ponder to a sollution for this. Tsangan did it so it was 87 base + compatibility (winkeyless + other keys) that made it fit a ton of other boards.
3 sets for me so far.
I thought about that when I was writing my post so please don't push too far because a unique layout like mine exists, we don't need a R4 here. I will get the set as it is right now, don't worry as the spacebar can't be done by SP for me it doesn't make sense to have all compatible keycaps but the spacebar, I'm too perfectionist when it comes to aesthetics in keyboards and would never use it with an unmatching spacebar.
Dismiss the idea because it doesn't make sense at all. I knew what would happen when I bought that keyboard and knew that my only choice was KBC 108 sets :party:
Anyway I would gladly buy ISO set too help the cause.
I forgot yo say that your work is simple amazing :whoo:
Do you mind if I post the info and Layout picture in a spanish forum to recruit buyers?
When will the order thread go up? Are you going to go old school with private messaging for ordering, or will you use Google Forms like hashbaz has done with his moogle kit group buy?
When will the order thread go up? Are you going to go old school with private messaging for ordering, or will you use Google Forms like hashbaz has done with his moogle kit group buy?
Do you have Red on White? My key is white so if i use dark grey caps it's ugly :(.
Do you have Red on White? My key is white so if i use dark grey caps it's ugly :(.
Thank you for fast reply. I have another question, my keyboard is choc mini (84 key) so could i use your 87 set without any problem ?
I WANT to make it possible for everyone, since we have so many orders a larger amount of people would be interested in these keys. I have learned from R4 and definitely wouldn't forcefully do it. But it won't stop me from trying.
That's awesome. I also have one of those Japanese Filcos. Would love to have some keys to put on it.
I would also like to show my interest in ISO keys.
Please send me a message via forum account or my email: thai.luongbinh@gmail.com when we start order. I would buy 2 set XD.
I'm in for at least one set. PM me when it's time.
this is red on dark grey, no?
Thank you. You're awesome.
Please send me a message via forum account or my email: thai.luongbinh@gmail.com when we start order. I would buy 2 set XD.
Sorry, chances are you probably will miss this. As much as I want to get everyone on this wagon, we need you to fill out the form.
Progress so far is we can accommodate a lot, but Choc mini users will just have to whine about the missing few keys for the top right corner.
Sorry, chances are you probably will miss this. As much as I want to get everyone on this wagon, we need you to fill out the form.
What form ?
Let me guess, order form?
Would you mind to specific more details please. I don' get it. Thanks.
What form ?
OK, so where is the order form? Sorry, this is my first time on Geekhack.
http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:Round4_UK_white_black_001.png
As there are so many orders, can you consider a UK specific option set? There must be at least 10 UK people wanting in on this :)
Would you mind to specific more details please. I don' get it. Thanks.
What form ?
I WANT to make it possible for everyone, since we have so many orders a larger amount of people would be interested in these keys. I have learned from R4 and definitely wouldn't forcefully do it. But it won't stop me from trying.I apreciate your effort then, thanks!
considering about x1.75 right shift bar. (for noppo, cherry 1800, MX Mini.. etc..)
gimme your opinion! (and it will be added on basic set)
But we need this before May15th !
We've come to an agreement on the implementation of the ISO kit.
QTY - ITEM
1 - JRet
2 - Blank 1x Row 4 (Top row is 1, bottom row is 4)
1 - Blank 1x Row 3
1 - Small Left 1.25x Shift
1 - Small Right 1.75x Shift
This will add compatibility for most common ISO layouts (Sorry for those wanting legends on specific keys, but I don't think it's a viable/beneficial to everyone as a whole). This should cover the ISO needs of most people, I don't believe I've missed out any keys.
The other main group this should help out is the Noppoo Choc Mini crowed, who need the small right shift and the extra blank bottom row key/keys. Unfortunately It won't cover the ScrollLock,NumLock,SwitchLock,Pause/Break,PgUp,PgDw keys, but if you are ok with wrong profiled/legended keys, the base kit+ISO should cover most of them.
This kit should also get more keys for the Japanese ISO (Not completely covers the layout, but I guess It helps out a bit).
I will update tonight with some nice images of the ISO kit and Numpad. But first I must put in a hard days work/study.
We've come to an agreement on the implementation of the ISO kit.
QTY - ITEM
1 - JRet
2 - Blank 1x Row 4 (Top row is 1, bottom row is 4)
1 - Blank 1x Row 3
1 - Small Left 1.25x Shift
1 - Small Right 1.75x Shift
This will add compatibility for most common ISO layouts (Sorry for those wanting legends on specific keys, but I don't think it's a viable/beneficial to everyone as a whole). This should cover the ISO needs of most people, I don't believe I've missed out any keys.
The other main group this should help out is the Noppoo Choc Mini crowed, who need the small right shift and the extra blank bottom row key/keys. Unfortunately It won't cover the ScrollLock,NumLock,SwitchLock,Pause/Break,PgUp,PgDw keys, but if you are ok with wrong profiled/legended keys, the base kit+ISO should cover most of them.
This kit should also get more keys for the Japanese ISO (Not completely covers the layout, but I guess It helps out a bit).
I will update tonight with some nice images of the ISO kit and Numpad. But first I must put in a hard days work/study.
(。◕‿◕。)
This hopefully gets the needed quantities.
This is going to be SO AWESOME /)^3^(\
ISO is happening...
Hrm... seems as though the boat wants me on it... must... resist...
We seem to be snowballing!
Sorry, not into it (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snowballing).
Kisakuku you really didn't have to bring that up...==
We are of course talking about the domino effect.
Would be in for it, specially the extra number row.
WTB NUMPAD though >.<
There will be a Numpad! We are deciding on 3 different versions:
1) Normal basic legends
2) Exocet Arabic Numbers
3) Exocet Roman Numerals
Anyone opinions? I will be drawing up mockups for these when I get home in a couple hours.
you can do Roman with the extra number row option.
Wrong row profiles.
I vote for option #3.
I was pretty sure #1 was gonna fail. The only benefit of it is no legending fee (maybe save you $10?)
I vote for option #3 but I might change my mind after seeing mockup art. Also, what about black on red for number pad?
Why does the Arabic Numbers looks exactly the same as the normal numpad?
Oooo! Can't wait =D This is going to be awesome. Really happy we were able to join up like this. Seems like we should do this a lot more. *Throws money at the screen* take my money!
Why does the Arabic Numbers looks exactly the same as the normal numpad?
Because the normal number symbols are Arabic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals
Welcome to Geekhack. Not the best first impression tho eh?
I will go for 1-3 base kit and 1-3 roman numpad add-on kit!
Thread Updated!
ISO Kit - (+ Choc Mini Right Shift)
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Number pad -
Vote for Arabic Numbers (#2) or Roman Numerals (#3)!
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I am personally going to change my vote to roman numberals (I found a typo!), The Exocet Arabic numbers are not very distinct or different from SP stock fonts, so Its hardly worth doing them. That is why I like the Roman Numerals more now!
104 set might cost $15-20 extra.
They can create fairly sharp edges when they feel like it. You have to visualize how a font is cut.
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I will however not be engaging in this Group Buy and meditating in my subforum. GLWIC (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?24707-Why-Is-The-Ripster-So-Darn-Pissed-At-Signature-Plastic-Key-Group-Buys&p=465725&viewfull=1#post465725).
For Devil Worshiping may be the current state of Geekhack but I have turned away from the Dark Side.
It is a man's own mind, not his enemy or foe, that lures him to evil ways.
Namaste.
wow.. is he a real Ripster?
if my guess is right... it's an honor to meet you.
and buy 100sets each per ket!
wow.. is he a real Ripster?
if my guess is right... it's an honor to meet you.
and buy 100sets each per ket!
wow.. is he a real Ripster?
if my guess is right... it's an honor to meet you.
and buy 100sets each per ket!
Please don't treat ripster like he's someone special. He has made a lot of positive contributions to the community, but his ego does not need stroking.
yup, that's him. and we're glad you got to meet him during this new peaceful ripster stage he has been going through lately.
what the...?! wasn't he peaceful before?
what the...?! wasn't he peaceful before?
Number pad -
Vote for Arabic Numbers (#2) or Roman Numerals (#3)!
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I thought the Arabic kit would be the numbers in Arabic haha. That would be REALLY cool if you do that.
Im in for a set + roman numpad.
I'm a noob to this forum - can somebody explain how this works? (or direct me to a thread with the info)
Thanks!
Welcome to geekhack!
Basically very soon there will be a order thread (I believe we will use a google docs form) to collect up orders.
Once a time/ammount is reached we will send out invoices to pay for their set.
We'll put in the order to the manufacturer (Signature Plastics).
Then once they're made and we receive it we'll mail them off to everyone who ordered.
Thanks!
Will the link to the order thread be posted here?
Which colour codes from SP are we going to use?
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first sample kits were ordered with GX/GB background, RR/RA/RCQ/RBV legends
The red options are fantastic! I can't find in the pic the GX/GB background though.
Which colour codes from SP are we going to use?
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Hazelhuff,
Could you quickly and easily do a mockup of the numpad as dark grey on red (inverse of what you posted) to see how it would look?
I vote RAS on one of the near blacks, can't read the codes.
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here is GX and GB (highlighted)
Do we think these will close faster than the average GB?
You know what this makes me really want to make? A MGS set.
Yeah. If it wouldn't require custom legends for everything I would consider it.
yeah, korean GBs are more about getting it right, than getting it right now.
look at how long the red alert set took. 7 months i think!
That would be gray on dark gray? ;-)Lol yeah. I was thinking all of the gun icons on the top row and shiz. Would probably work best as a WASD keyboard. I'll probably do that lol.
I'm interested, I would also buy the ISO kit and number pad with Roman numerals. However whether I buy or not depends on how many people actually contribute to the group buy. I don't want to spend an excessive amount of money. :D
sorry if this is already answered, but can i order the "Extra RED key caps" only? That is from `1234567890-= to backspace only. Cheers..
sorry if this is already answered, but can i order the "Extra RED key caps" only? That is from `1234567890-= to backspace only. Cheers..
I wish those weren't black on red. It doesn't look as good to me when the only thing inverted is the number row. Alas I'm certain that with this many buyers, that change isn't going to happen.
Well my thought is that since everyone loves the roman numerals so much, why not replace the 1234567890 with them on the base set? That was what I wanted instead of red keys.
It is cool that this is a East-West collaboration. It may pave the way to future collaborations like keycap sets using the Cherry replica font we are hoping to make, and maybe even a custom keyboard.
This is nothing like the diablo font, if we can't have the sharp serifs.. what a joke..
It's like putting childproof bumpers on sharp table edges...
Disappointing
It's like putting childproof bumpers on sharp table edges...WHO
Disappointing
WHO
WHAT
I DON'T --
THIS TABLE IS TOTALLY RUINED BY SAFETY
Assthetics is overrated.
Are these on track for release before Diablo 3? :D
They aught to rename this set to Diablo Font Bumper Serif edition.
Go back to trolling the women thread plz. Everyone else in the universe agrees this set will be awesome.
Not likely.. still a niche market.. you're merely a victim of group-polarization.
And you're an obnoxious troll that no one likes.
Is it tp4-tissue or tp4t-issue? You have tissue issue?
He runs out of tissue too fast.
He runs out of tissue too fast.
impossible. he has sex with 10s all day!
Not to harp on you man, but 2 commas never make sense. Even with one comma those words are nothing more than sentence fragments, but 2 just makes you look like an idiot.
No, not really. It can reasonably be assumed that any fan of Diablo would appreciate this. You can't try and make this out to be below your standards when compared to most of the people on here you are a noob. You're just acting dumb (again) and making baseline assumptions with no basis for your argument. Honestly the only normal post I have ever seen by you was the one where you ordered your keys. Hopefully you learn, and soon, that you don't actually have to argue with everyone in every single post. I'm not 100% sure, but I gather you've had plenty of bad experiences with people hating you in the past online. Perhaps that is why you seem to have a chip on your shoulder all the time.
Not to harp on you man, but 2 commas never make sense. Even with one comma those words are nothing more than sentence fragments, but 2 just makes you look like an idiot.
Making fun of people who wheeze is rude, Dave.
And you're an obnoxious troll that no one likes.
People hating me online.. well yea, cuz I'm always right.
Sorry Hazel. Just trying to get him to knock it off.
Is this still going to happen?
Current interest from Singapore :
Base kit : 33
Roman numpad : 22
Arabic numpad : 5
I think the problem is that he isn't always right and feels the severe need to fight about it anyways. For example, if my gf wasn't shy, I'd share a picture of her holding up her keyboard, and I can personally guarantee that she isn't fat, isn't ugly, and most certainly has a higher power level than he does. On top of being a 34D size 4, she plays SC2, Skyrim, Diablo and many other games, loves Star Wars even more than I do, and about a million other nerdy things too awesome to list here. On the other hand, TP takes statements no reasonable person would ever care enough to fight about, and when he argues them until he gets no response other than "You're an ******* for arguing for no reason" and claims victory. The only reason he can even claim victory is because nobody else is here specifically to argue and they give 0 f*cks. Meanwhile, nobody likes him, so if you call that a victory, priorities man, priorities. Between that and his posts in the girls on the internet thread, he sounds like the kind of guy no girl in her right mind would spend any significant time with sober. My gf shares this opinion.
If it is his opinion that these keys suck, fine, he's shared it, first amendment rights granted. I'd like to see him do better. It would be really nice if he developed the maturity level of his supposed age. If he's actually 23... lol. I'm 23 and I have a successful business running group buys on here, while being a responsible lazy college senior and a good boyfriend. Right now he seems like a 5th grader who bullies other kids just to validate himself. The 3rd grade level grammar doesn't help either.
Oh, and I am making no attribution error. I don't need to know your history to justify my belief that you've been a tool on the internet for quite some time and have some sort of silly desire to start fights where you can't actually get your ass kicked. I'm not sure what you're compensating for, but there's something, that's for sure.
Lol. This ******* is a good argument for giving Group Buy coordinators Forum Mod rights.
If he did that in my subforum I'd not only ban him I'd nuke every single one of his posts like I did KL.
Not to harp on you man, but 2 commas never make sense. Even with one comma those words are nothing more than sentence fragments, but 2 just makes you look like an idiot.
Yeah I'm seriously considering refunding you your money, you don't deserve them. One day you'll learn there are consequences for your behavior.
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You''re welcome!!..
You're not doing it right... i don't double up on apostrophes if it is used for contractions...
There's always money in the banana stand!
You want em, I'll give you Tp's at the original group buy cost ($45.) He forgets I did him a favor by letting him in hours after the deadline, and continues to be a douche. I mean really, who does that?
I didn't know this was a font argument. Now that IS important.
If pricing is around $50, I would be in for a sec.
Hi organizers,
I have a suggestion. The optional num row (black on red) key caps are really attractive. It is the sole reason why I've decided to join in the MO.
To make the set more "complete", I suggest to have the roman number pad (for 104's) available on black on red as well. I'm sure you can put this as an optional thing (just like how you've made the num pad optional, just that with 2 more choices).
I really really hope you consider it.
Are you sure there was going to be a black on red? I don't remember reading that!
It was discussed a few pages back, and there will, in fact, be a optional roman numeral numpad set =3
Oh right, no, it was red on black, like the rest. Hazeluff said that it would be too obstructive if it was red base, which I will have to agree with him on. I doubt there will be a black on red numpad addon.
Where are my keys ?
Stop messing with each other because we need people with force of will like you guys ..
Keys are very nice , actually i think they are pretty good ! better than those Razer keyboards that cost like 100-250$ with rubber domes and useless lights
Where are my keys ?
Stop messing with each other because we need people with force of will like you guys ..
Keys are very nice , actually i think they are pretty good ! better than those Razer keyboards that cost like 100-250$ with rubber domes and useless lights
As the owner of a red-LED-backlit Ducky Shine which could be made so much more awesome with Exocet keycaps, I have the following queries:
- Would it be possible to produce a set with translucent legends?
- How many would need to be produced to make this worth the time/money?
- How many people would be interested in such a thing?
1. No
2. 100-250, but we're planning on producing 500 whether or not we like it or not
3. We have around 450, but we hope 500 people will be interested.
1. No
2. 100-250, but we're planning on producing 500 whether or not we like it or not
3. We have around 450, but we hope 500 people will be interested.
I have gather 32 interested people from Singapore so far... Hope it helps.
As the owner of a red-LED-backlit Ducky Shine which could be made so much more awesome with Exocet keycaps, I have the following queries:
- Would it be possible to produce a set with translucent legends?
- How many would need to be produced to make this worth the time/money?
- How many people would be interested in such a thing?
I have gather 32 interested people from Singapore so far... Hope it helps.
I should order the base keyset plus the ISO choc mini addon correct?
I think the red caps from [~ to backspace] and [numpad 1 to 9] would look better
a few quick questions. again, some of these issues may just be the mock-up, and might not be realized in the final casting, but i figured i'd ask anyhow.
- margins on the multi-legend keys aren't consistent with those with single legends, and the legends simply don't line up when looking at the single legend key beside it.
- those arrows are just so heavy. i still prefer the style of them over the 'defaults', but they don't match with the feel of the rest of the legends. is it possible to render something more svelte?
- the menu (scroll/script) legend is out of proportion to the other legends (ctrl/alt), and while the windows tyrael/diablo keys are full-face legends, i'm not sure the scroll/script key should be.
a few quick questions. again, some of these issues may just be the mock-up, and might not be realized in the final casting, but i figured i'd ask anyhow.
- margins on the multi-legend keys aren't consistent with those with single legends, and the legends simply don't line up when looking at the single legend key beside it.
- those arrows are just so heavy. i still prefer the style of them over the 'defaults', but they don't match with the feel of the rest of the legends. is it possible to render something more svelte?
- the menu (scroll/script) legend is out of proportion to the other legends (ctrl/alt), and while the windows tyrael/diablo keys are full-face legends, i'm not sure the scroll/script key should be.
Hi - Sorry, have never participated in a group buy before but looks seriously interesting. I have a question though. Since I have a choc mini (actually in the mail), if I want to order, I should order the base keyset plus the ISO choc mini addon correct?
2) This may change. But what I see is more people wanting the current version of the arrows.
Called it, but they still look fine.
Damn those looked so good too, sad they didn't make it into the set.
Rest of the set still looks amazing though.
Aren’t menu keys normally centered or slightly left aligned?
What didn't make it into the set?
Do you mean the diablo and tyreal keys. They are still in!
Maybe I'm going to say something dumb but Do you guys think is feasable to replace "print screen", "Home", "delete" and those keys with Diablo icons?
I guess it would increase price too much but they seem out of place. Maybe there are some standard icons to replace them without going into legends fees that could fit like the handbag.
Maybe I'm going to say something dumb but Do you guys think is feasable to replace "print screen", "Home", "delete" and those keys with Diablo icons?
I guess it would increase price too much but they seem out of place. Maybe there are some standard icons to replace them without going into legends fees that could fit like the handbag.
btw hazel, just 1 question, does the base kit contain all those keycaps in the picture or we need to pay extra for the 1.5x modifier / extra num rows / extra keys?
Don't mean to rush you, but how close are we to ordering? :D
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Put me down for a full 104 key set with as many red key caps as you can get on there.
Looks awesome! Would it be too much to ask for a 1/1 scale picture of the base set?
Yeah, I believe this set will be in the ISO set.
Hi there,
new at GH, but sorry to ask what is this ISO means ey?
Put me down for a 104 key cap set. I just saw this amazing thread and want to deck out my Filco Majestouch-2!
Put me down for a 104 key cap set. I just saw this amazing thread and want to deck out my Filco Majestouch-2!
Welcome to wallethack. Your avatar will haunt my dreams.
the red number row is insanely awesome.
this keycap set gives me the will to go to work everyday :D
Fairly cheap, between 50 and 65 bucks not counting add ons or shipping.
The legends will be mainly custom, but with the expected amount of people so far a set may not be too bad, it may cost as low as ~$56/set (excluding shipping). There are currently 140+ people interseted from KBDMania and growing so it should get very cheap for custom legends.
The set will be Doubleshot and done in the colors and with the keys bellow: Red on Dark Grey
I would like to know
Dark Grey means "GQM" Signature Plastics color code?
The KBC poker came home today, really nice, MX blacks arent as stiff as i though they would.
Anyone here with a poker and DS replacement kecaps knows if the PCB leds will shine through them?
Lol now I want to know what it is.
They could easily make it anonymous, I like my name and even if it isn't picked I'd want people to know what it is.
This is offtopic but I'm in the union building at my school right now and I can say that I also like korean girls wearing jean shorts so short that accentuate their already really long legs. Om nom nom XD
way too much make up.
But this is not off topic :P
Any updates? :peep:
i will recieve an first samples next monday.
patience little more for full proto & main order!!
Naming Contest Winner!
Winner - Lukasevic
Name - "Sanctuary"
This is a joint win between Lukasevic and someone else on KBDMania who suggested the same name. Both of them will win a couple of special keycaps ; ).
T.T Echoes of Tristram T.T
FANTASTIC. By the way, when will a paypal address be supplied for this wonderful Key-set?
Any chance you'll share the submissions? Anonymous is fine, it'd be fun to see what people came up with.
Or would that complicate things? (i.e. start arguments over the name, which I think is fine as is).
Prototypes in next monday hopefully. And GB should come up soon after.
Prototypes in next monday hopefully. And GB should come up soon after.
Orders don't start until at least 2 months from now. I'm confident in the abilities of those running this though, it takes forever, but they do their stuff right.
Trust me, 2 months is super-quick compared to GB 4.0. Besides I'm willing to wait up to 6 months for these unique keys. It's a once in a lifetime buy that I don't ever want to miss out on.You've got me there. Compared to R4, everything is super quick hahaha. XD
How do I add SANCTUARY/RGB?
How do I add SANCTUARY/RGB?
there is nothing like that.
if you want one, you can color with creyons.
I was just poking fun at R4, don't mind me. :bowl:
How do I add SANCTUARY/RGB?
Naming Contest Winner!
Winner - Lukasevic
Name - "Sanctuary"
This is a joint win between Lukasevic and someone else on KBDMania who suggested the same name. Both of them will win a couple of special keycaps ; ).
I am completely honored to contribute to this awesome keyset in some way. To hazel and sherry, thanks for allowing the contest to take place! I am eagerly waiting to see how keyset looks and D3's release. :)
Naming Contest Winner!Did somebody propose Kryptek ?
Winner - Lukasevic
Name - "Sanctuary"
This is a joint win between Lukasevic and someone else on KBDMania who suggested the same name. Both of them will win a couple of special keycaps ; ).
I've been pretty much silently stalking this thread, but I thought I'd express my interest especially after seeing the winning name. My newest PC build is named Sanctuary. c:
Forcing me to buy ISO for my 1800 right shift :<
i know... i'm in the same boat. i get why, i'm just hoping the cost of these makes it moot.Let's start a riot! Unless ISO people want to split with me haha
Did somebody proposed Kryptek ?
You done goofed. It's "did somebody propose", or "Had someone proposed". I see native speakers make this same elementary mistake all the time; it drives me insane.
No love for the weak, easy pun that was Endocet? Copyright concerns with drug or weapons companies thinking keyboard-buyers will buy ballistic missiles or drugs by mistake?
You done goofed. It's "did somebody propose", or "Had someone proposed". I see native speakers make this same elementary mistake all the time; it drives me insane.
No love for the weak, easy pun that was Endocet? Copyright concerns with drug or weapons companies thinking keyboard-buyers will buy ballistic missiles or drugs by mistake?
Bah, quote my post now that I've edited it to show some degree of mercy and compliance, why don't you?
there is one name which i can open to public and i also loled.
'ripster is gay' by s******3
(*ed for privacy)
i hope the group buy will start soon :(
just wait... 7~8 weeks to open order thread, patience!
What? I thought only other people make mistake, and you never do?
Is this similar to pointing out other people's spelling mistakes while you yourself misspelling words in your reply?
Hypocrite, you are.
^ That refers to the time until the order thread opens. You will be able to order in 7-8 weeks
Authenticity is already given thanks to the perfectionism by hazeluff :)
You are letting them do the prototypes again and again until they’re right, I guess?
$25-$45 per key.
there is one name which i can open to public and i also loled.
'ripster is gay' by s******3
(*ed for privacy)
What, you guys don't like my keyset name?
i have a recommendation to make the all the keycaps surrounding the borders of the keyboard all red
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is it possible to make it as an option? or a checkered set while we're at this :)
i have a recommendation to make the all the keycaps surrounding the borders of the keyboard all red
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is it possible to make it as an option? or a checkered set while we're at this :)
All I'd want to change is make roman numerals in the base set, so everything is consistent... and I won't be getting the tenkey part or the red add on, so its the only way I'd be getting any roman numerals. >.>
The extra number row with roman numerals is not an add-on.
I assume different rows will have different profiles. If so, would you consider making a Colemak kit? :)
just wondering if it is possible to order the red caps separately from the base set? i just need the red caps that form the asymmetric shape from "~123456 ... /*-+[Enter]" (perhaps with the window keys as well since its part of them)
Is what's posted in the OP a final version of what the keys are going to look like, or still a mockup? I think the set is sick but it's let down by the three rows of keys above the arrows (Print Screen / Insert / Delete rows). I would almost rather have that entire section blank than "out of character" like that
i just recieved first sample kit, include x2 'W', x2 'E' x2 'tyrael' x2 'diablo'
pictures will updated SOON!
it's even nicer then i expected.
who the hell said this is 'child-bumped' font?
i just recieved first sample kit, include x2 'W', x2 'E' x2 'tyrael' x2 'diablo'
pictures will updated SOON!
it's even nicer then i expected.
Is what's posted in the OP a final version of what the keys are going to look like, or still a mockup? I think the set is sick but it's let down by the three rows of keys above the arrows (Print Screen / Insert / Delete rows). I would almost rather have that entire section blank than "out of character" like that
My faves: GB/RR for dark, and RA/GX for light (RR/GB second preference, RBV/WW third).
Are those legends different fonts, or is that just distortion due to camera angle?
It's always hard to tell shades of colour from uncalibrated photos on an uncalibrated monitor. My preference would be for a shade in between red and orange. Not pure red, but not bright orange either – one of the last shades of orange before it becomes red. Gives it a fiery glow.
By the way, for showing photos of red, you should save the JPEG images with chroma subsampling off (1:1:1 or 4:4:4), otherwise red goes very smeary, blocky and washed out, which is happening in the red-on-grey keycap photos. IrfanView can certainly do this, as can GraphicConverter; Photoshop typically could not, but maybe Adobe have implemented that now. (I still don't know why red is so badly affected by subsampling.)
the drill size is different over the legends its a mix of 0.012 and 0.015
Is that to say that there is a mix within each keycap, or that one was made with 0.012 and one with 0.015? I only ask because I found the legend on the GB/RBV "W" key very difficult to discern, even in the photos where it's mounted to the keyswitch and there's no reflection from "above".
Any chance that the right-shift for the Noppoo could be included in the base kit? I believe many people will have to get the whole ISO which, imo, is kinda unfair because it will be probably expensive, compared to what that single key would be.
Any chance that the right-shift for the Noppoo could be included in the base kit? I believe many people will have to get the whole ISO which, imo, is kinda unfair because it will be probably expensive, compared to what that single key would be.I'm with you on this, the ISO keys for me would be just sitting here doing nothing, either include the 1800 short shift in base, or combine the current ISO addon + 1800 shift both into the base kit, that would drive the price even lower for the extra keys
Any chance that the right-shift for the Noppoo could be included in the base kit? I believe many people will have to get the whole ISO which, imo, is kinda unfair because it will be probably expensive, compared to what that single key would be.
I'm with you on this, the ISO keys for me would be just sitting here doing nothing, either include the 1800 short shift in base, or combine the current ISO addon + 1800 shift both into the base kit, that would drive the price even lower for the extra keys
Actually if you split them, You'll realize that it gets more expensive than you thought because of the split number of orders.
Also it's not just one key you share. You also share the 1x keys to cover the bottom row 1x keys and the extra ones needed on the side.
Actually, the base order has enough 1x modifiers to fit a Noppoo (you need 3), so we only need the right shift in order to make the base set work on a Noppoo. Thats exactly why I stated that It will heavily increase the cost for a Noppoo user, due to raw volume.
(as it is, the base set includes many options altogether...and a single extra key can't hurt, right?)
Will you consider the opportunity to offer the diable / tyrael caps separately by any chance ? I would get more of them if so.
Maybe its a lighting issue, but all the reds look orange to me, or just way too bright in general to match the other keys in the set.
Is RBV the darkest?
Remember guys, when we say soon on GH, we mean Blizzard soon. :rofl:
Probably too late to ask, but a Town Portal blue icon for the Home key (or just as a modifier) would be amazing too :)
Perhaps it's a little late to add them to this group buy, we wouldn't want additional keys to slow things down at this point... there are a LOT of people waiting on these keys and it's being chaired by the guys on KBDMania (not GeekHack). Perhaps we need to look at a D3 functions GB separately for keys like white Tyrael and Town Portal?
I am really looking forward to seeing the full prototype set. This group buy seems to be very well organized, and not rushed at all. It seems like the organizers are trying to iron out as many of the kinks as possible to begin with. Very impressive.
The worst part is QC'ing each key. The organizer from KBDMania is actually going to fly down to Los Angeles to help me organize the keys. We have to quanitity check all the keys. He calculated it was cheaper to bring it back with him to South Korea than to have it ship there with the insurance cost. Everyone should thank him. (He also got a free trip to LA... smart man I got to say!).
I have a question, why the T in the Ctrl and the Alt, are different from the one on the T,
but the CRL and the AL are the same with CRLA key on other keycaps?
does it mean that the ctrl is actually CtRL, and the alt is ALt instead of CTRL and ALT?
The worst part is QC'ing each key. The organizer from KBDMania is actually going to fly down to Los Angeles to help me organize the keys. We have to quanitity check all the keys. He calculated it was cheaper to bring it back with him to South Korea than to have it ship there with the insurance cost. Everyone should thank him. (He also got a free trip to LA... smart man I got to say!).
Where do I get on the list for a base set? If it is here, then let it be done.
Who's ready for some Diablo 3? (Not me, got to study).
*raises hand*
At least Amazon finally shipped out my CE copy...took them long enough...I was really starting to get worried when I hadn't received a shipping confirmation by 5pm, didn't come until after 6. I'll see you guys in, uh...about a month. :)
BTW: I need that sanctuary set!!!!!!!!!!!! :P
I know what he means.
Please let us know when you'll want the payments. This is one set worth getting, it's the most beautiful here on Geekhack.
Sanctuary keycap set, MY MONEY IS READY!
Not sure if this has been mentioned already - or if anyone even plays D3 - but it might be cool to have something special for the common hotkeys? Maybe like an optional set as inverse colors for 1,2,3,4 and Q as an example? Something to make those keys pop?
Not sure if this has been mentioned already - or if anyone even plays D3 - but it might be cool to have something special for the common hotkeys? Maybe like an optional set as inverse colors for 1,2,3,4 and Q as an example? Something to make those keys pop?
Not sure if this has been mentioned already - or if anyone even plays D3 - but it might be cool to have something special for the common hotkeys? Maybe like an optional set as inverse colors for 1,2,3,4 and Q as an example? Something to make those keys pop?
I like this idea
Lol "- or if anyone even plays D3 -"lol! didn't mean anything by it :P I play D3 too just didn't want to insinuate what people would be using this keyset for
I also support this idea! Diablo has been known to take over my life, might as well let it take over my keyboards too ;)
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Separate gb imo.
Separate gb imo.
Yeah well that's no good for me, since I bound my actions to QWER and use 1 for potion.
Because before Diablo 3, I played LoL.
Lots of LoL.
We'll have to get the whole set if we want the potion key? That's kind of disappointing :'(
Cheers,
Apologies, my previous post was confusing.
The thinking was (at the time) that it would be cool if the base kit included the potion key, and the Gamer kit was meant to be extras of 1-4 + Q (since us D3 players are going to be pounding on those keys a lot, they may be the first to wear down :thumb:
That's just my thought.
Cheers,
There may be a lot of extra keys certain people would want included in a set but not everyone buying the set necessarily does. I would imagine there are a lot of people who do not care for the potion key. It doesn't make sense to force each buyer to pay for one.
here's a pic of "Gamer kit' !I like it a lot! Great work on this... only thing I can say is that I'd prefer if the gamer kit included these 5 additional keys on top of the regular keys, this way I can opt to use it or not?
so we have 4 kit. Base, ISO, Numpad, Gamer
and NO MORE kit will be added until i figure out something F-ing awesome!
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Maybe, but you could say the same thing about the Tyrael and Diablo specialty keys, yet we're being forced to buy those as well. The whole idea of this set from my perspective is bound to the Diablo universe, and with that reasoning it seems pretty logical that one would want a potion key to come with any "Diablo III" themed set of keycaps. Otherwise the base set shouldn't include any of the game themed caps IMO.
Cheers,
I like it a lot! Great work on this... only thing I can say is that I'd prefer if the gamer kit included these 5 additional keys on top of the regular keys, this way I can opt to use it or not?
Isn't that how an add on kit works?OK was not sure if this was going to be an add on or we have a full standard kit and a full 'gamer' kit
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Looking fantastic Hash!!
Tres Bien!
My only beef is, and IM sure i'm not the only one.. I actually rebound my action bar to sit one row lower..
IE
QWER and then F for pots..
And I moved the portal default away from T (naturally, dont want to start TP'ing in the middle of some carnage.. that would be bad).
I recommend anyone that has played some FPS to do this, if they havent already.. a thousand times more natural..
But leaves me in a pickle for this gamer add on set.. one row lower hmmph. would also mean my potion key, would need an F/J nub or dip..
Looking fantastic [STRIKE]Hash[/STRIKE] Hazel!!
All good [STRIKE]Hash[/STRIKE] Hazel, knew that would be the case, but just wanted to get it out. :) this set is going to be fantastic and appreciate your time and effort champ!
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oh god what have you done...
I have a question, will the ISO kit come with the extra keys for a UK layout keyboard? i.e. the " on the 2 key, the @ on the ' key and the | key (on the bottom left). If not will there be another set available?
There won't be a blank key to replace the 2@ key.
But there will be blanks to fill in the two spots on the lower rows. These would be blanks that would fit the row profile for the:
-|\ key (Row 1)
-#~ key (Row 2)
I'm interested in Base+Iso+Numberpad-Kit. This is going to look very great on any keyboard :-)
It's an interest check the GB itself won't even start until the organizers have finalized the glyphs w/ SP production. They've been working on prototypes so far.
i aleady ordered full-proto kit.
ETA 5~7 weeks. we will start order before that.
Why did I discovered this so early? The wait is killing me. D:
i aleady ordered full-proto kit.
ETA 5~7 weeks. we will start order before that.
Yeah, i hope this set comes before D3 gets labeled worst game ever, so far its crappier than daikatana... No wonder DOTA 2 creator ran as fast as he could when valve opened their doors for him.
Five weeks? Might as well take my money now! =P
IceFrog was never involved in Diablo 3 development, far as I know. When did this change?
Cheers,
Yeah, i hope this set comes before D3 gets labeled worst game ever, so far its crappier than daikatana... No wonder DOTA 2 creator ran as fast as he could when valve opened their doors for him.
That hansnt happened, and i dont think thats what my post says.
IceFrog was the Dota 2 creator. Your OP indicates that he had some involvement in D3. Please correct me if that's not what it seems like you posted.
Cheers,
IMO what he says is that IF ran from Blizzard platforms in general as fast as he could.
Clearly a valid reason to sperg out and bump this thread, isn't it?
full-proto kit will arrive before july 20th. and we will open order thread 2~3 weeks before that.
wait just LITTLE more! thanks.
(i'm curruntly at hospital bcause i fall off from 3rd floor... hope i can get outta here ASAP so i can do several works for sanctuary..)