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geekhack Marketplace => Interest Checks => Topic started by: MK47 on Sun, 15 May 2022, 16:41:20

Title: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: MK47 on Sun, 15 May 2022, 16:41:20

(https://i.imgur.com/XNULWiD.jpg)

After 2 rounds of prototype and 3 units later, Crane is finally ready for an IC. The Crane is designed to be a slim dual mount 60% with a soft and consistent typing experience.

(https://i.imgur.com/2mg2gXq.jpg)

Specifications

Typing angle: 6 degree

Weight: Internal brass weight, directly covering the alphas

Case material and top option: 6063 and WK only

Case colours: Black, Silver

Plate layouts: Fixed ANSI, Fixed ISO

Plate materials: Red Aluminium (5052), Frosted Polycarbonate

Mounting styles: 4-point Top Mount, Gummy Oring

740g unbuilt, 1kg built

Target price: ~$300 no more than $350

the target price is higher than I would like, but I have to be realistic with myself. Given the current situation, the size of the hobby and this being my first project; I am not confident that I can hit that higher MOQ to achieve that price.

Adjusted front height: ~17.5mm-17.94mm without feet, ~19mm - 19.5mm with feet

(https://i.imgur.com/NzD4UxI.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/mg0wfdz.jpg)

The 4-point top mount provides a slightly softer typing feel while still being consistent. The mounting tabs are close to the edge of the plate to provide support so the mods don't flex away from the edge.

(https://i.imgur.com/0yWtUer.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/bKzuaeV.jpg)

Top mount Oring mount
Standard USB port.

[/size]Prototype Pictures

(https://i.imgur.com/LGFIQ8d.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/nCEIHGY.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ycnf2tr.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/7vOnDkh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/yg1uSpJ.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/JssXBqn.jpg)

More proto pics by Alessio (https://imgur.com/a/CvBUI9V)

Alessio did a build stream last month, check it out Here! (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1455202267)

Thank you for reading. If you are interested please fill in the IC form (https://forms.gle/XFMBjFJo5iCm1JAX9), it would help me tremendously.

Special thanks to

Simon, Paul, Alessio, KK and Huey

To-do:
~~1st round of prototyping~~
~~2nd round of prototyping~~
Collect feedback - In process
Proto PCB - Pending :stocks:
Send silver unit to Huey to build - Pending
Finalise details with vendors

MISC

Due to the low front height and 6 degree angle, the maximum weight thickness I can achieve is 2mm. It is placed directly under the alphas and I feel that it has really helped with the sound.

(https://i.imgur.com/vXcpslC.jpg)

There is a spacebar cutout in the bottom case for screw-in stabilizers so you are not limited to using clip-ins only. Please use clip-ins for backspace otherwise the oring would be pinched against the case wall and the plate.

If, for whatever reason, you like shaking keyboards; depending on what stabs are used you could potentially feel the build move slightly in the case. This has no effect on the assembly of the case or the actual functionality of the keyboard.

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: MK47 on Sun, 15 May 2022, 16:42:01

Reserved

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: selsik on Sun, 15 May 2022, 16:44:39

Back part looks dull but the inner weight looks remarkably good. Mixed priorities.

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: chat and team on Sun, 15 May 2022, 16:45:47

300+ and no dboard lol

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: kyuut on Sun, 15 May 2022, 16:51:57

looks nice. wouldn't it be better to move the weight screws a bit or add two more? i often see designers having problems with thin weights being bent/warped out of the factory

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: ankit on Sun, 15 May 2022, 17:07:35

This is cool af.

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: Senpai_deezy on Sun, 15 May 2022, 19:35:07

Quote from: selsik on Sun, 15 May 2022, 16:44:39

I would think that it is really just for sound, as alessio stated this is a board to just sound and feel good.

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: LaserCrafter on Sun, 15 May 2022, 20:29:02

Quote from: chat and team on Sun, 15 May 2022, 16:45:47

So toxic and for what reason?

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Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: BasedCoper on Sun, 15 May 2022, 20:32:41

Quote from: chat and team on Sun, 15 May 2022, 16:45:47

You're always toxic asf for some odd reason. Also, if you had any knowledge of anything at all, you'd know that daughterboards are not automatically superior, especially because many of them result in worse sound profiles or at least more inconsistent sound profiles in the region they're located. Maybe learn something about the hobby before putting out your garbage takes

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: shima on Sun, 15 May 2022, 20:57:31

Quote from: chat and team on Sun, 15 May 2022, 16:45:47

chat and team, I appreciate your input dude, but you're always so ****ing negative man. Honestly man, this is the one thing i ****ing hate about geekhack some times, because you always have this one guy that just needs to be super ****ing negative all the time when you reply. I appreciate your input man but like my god, I never see positive stuff come from you. It's always just like bashing people, making fun of things. Even in other IC's too. It's just so ****ing tiring bro, like it honestly is dude. I understand you don't want the product and stuff like that but you don't need to be so god damn ****ing negative man. Like it really is ****ing tiring to read. ****. It's so boring to read the same **** over and over and over again from the same people. You don't like anything, cool! Find a new hobby maybe. ****.

jokes aside, cool ic. glwgb homie

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: Botty212 on Mon, 16 May 2022, 04:02:54

Quote from: chat and team on Sun, 15 May 2022, 16:45:47

just stfu lol

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: LegendsWorks on Mon, 16 May 2022, 04:47:25

Quote from: chat and team on Sun, 15 May 2022, 16:45:47

A DB doesnt make a board good, clearly this isnt a board meant for flex and for 300 this is honestly not terrible, a bit basic but not bad

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: LegendsWorks on Mon, 16 May 2022, 04:51:11

I dont mind it but i would love to see maybe some like a unique touch how for example the kikkuichimonji has a led thing, Doesnt need to be the same but something what makes this board different then any other top mount 60 would be great, For the rest i cant really comment, looks dank, GLWIC :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: Friendship on Mon, 16 May 2022, 08:08:54

Quote from: chat and team on Sun, 15 May 2022, 16:45:47

yall got any of them "Pre-2020 Alu rawstock material prices?"

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: treeleaf64 on Mon, 16 May 2022, 12:08:16

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: MK47 on Mon, 16 May 2022, 15:19:55

Quote from: chat and team on Sun, 15 May 2022, 16:45:47

lol this guy.

I tried to make the keyboard sound as consistent as possible and a db would not give me that. If I were to add a db, I could cover up the JST channel with the weight but I would have no way of covering up the space for the db. This would make that area sound different compared to the rest.

I am not going to turn it into a box ticking exercise just to have something on paper when it doesn't give me the result that I want. If I were to add it I would have to redesign the bottom case and make the db mounted on the bottom side, but this is not what this keyboard is about.

Yes, the target price is higher than I would like, but I have to be realistic with myself. Given the current situation, the size of the hobby and this being my first project; I am not confident that I can hit that higher MOQ to achieve that price.

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: Poesjuh on Mon, 16 May 2022, 16:04:37

I understand this will not be made in wkl or hhkb, correct?

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Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: Fraaaan on Mon, 16 May 2022, 16:39:14

Quote from: Poesjuh on Mon, 16 May 2022, 16:04:37

From OP:

Quote

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: Poesjuh on Mon, 16 May 2022, 16:49:24

Must have missed that. Thank you for fixing my temporary blindness.

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Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: BasedCoper on Mon, 16 May 2022, 21:54:52

Quote from: Poesjuh on Mon, 16 May 2022, 16:49:24

control F

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: mr_foggy on Tue, 17 May 2022, 18:41:57

no wkl is a painful pass for me. nice project tho, love the engraving.

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: paulgali on Tue, 17 May 2022, 23:34:09

Let’s gooooo congrats at last! GLWIC

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Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: catamscott on Wed, 18 May 2022, 17:21:14

this looks really awesome! nice design, tried and true mounting and love the standard 60% pcb compatibility. honestly for a case i'd rather have standard pcb compat than a daughterboard anyways

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: Coby on Sun, 22 May 2022, 05:38:06

I’m in, give me a black and silver unit :D

Title: Re: [IC] Crane - Top & Oring mount 60%
Post by: unusuaL_ on Sun, 22 May 2022, 08:18:03

appreciate the choices made with the design, ignore daughterboard guy :eek: