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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #250 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 18:17:53 »


Finally.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #251 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 00:50:14 »
Man, I just love the size/thickness & profile of this board.  Wish I would have gotten a blue winkey also.

From what I can see so far, my top looks good (I'll be gettin out the ole flashlight and giving it a thorough comb over). 
The brass bottom looks good as well. I couldn't get a good picture, but there are some scratches on one side of the bar tho.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #252 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 03:16:32 »
already got hairline scratches on brass bottom :( Does anyone know how I can remove this?

https://i.imgur.com/GL0kxvK.jpg

I know it's not gonna show when I finish the build but I'm interested to know if it's possible.
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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #253 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 09:00:02 »
already got hairline scratches on brass bottom :( Does anyone know how I can remove this?

https://i.imgur.com/GL0kxvK.jpg

I know it's not gonna show when I finish the build but I'm interested to know if it's possible.

From what I can see on my bar.  It looks like the scratches/marks might be in the PVD coating and not on the brass itself?

I'd like to know if there is way to get them out also, but if they are in the coating I would assume there's not.
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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #254 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 09:10:32 »
already got hairline scratches on brass bottom :( Does anyone know how I can remove this?

https://i.imgur.com/GL0kxvK.jpg

I know it's not gonna show when I finish the build but I'm interested to know if it's possible.

From what I can see on my bar.  It looks like the scratches/marks might be in the PVD coating and not on the brass itself?

I'd like to know if there is way to get them out also, but if they are in the coating I would assume there's not.

If it really bugs you perhaps consider getting a home gold plating kit.
You can use the video Linus Tech Tips just did where they gold plated the heat spreader on an Intel 8086K for inspiration.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #255 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 13:05:26 »
already got hairline scratches on brass bottom :( Does anyone know how I can remove this?

https://i.imgur.com/GL0kxvK.jpg

I know it's not gonna show when I finish the build but I'm interested to know if it's possible.

From what I can see on my bar.  It looks like the scratches/marks might be in the PVD coating and not on the brass itself?

I'd like to know if there is way to get them out also, but if they are in the coating I would assume there's not.

If it really bugs you perhaps consider getting a home gold plating kit.
You can use the video Linus Tech Tips just did where they gold plated the heat spreader on an Intel 8086K for inspiration.

Oh if it's the coating I'll just leave it then. It doesn't bother me that much
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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #256 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 16:34:43 »





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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #257 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 16:35:54 »
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Ugh that blue is so good! Lovely pictures :)
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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #258 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 17:34:23 »
Just received it today! Can’t wait to put it in my closet 🤣
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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #259 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 17:34:41 »
I regret my color and blocker choices now.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #260 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 18:35:50 »
I love Elzy

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #261 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 00:33:53 »
Just received it today! Can’t wait to put it in my closet 🤣
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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #262 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 07:48:57 »
Thank you! nice! Now I have to build it up and convert the PCB to TMK.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #263 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 12:06:53 »
First tests still using JigOn…
It's an amazing keyboard, weighs in on 3.2 kg


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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #264 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 23:23:10 »
Looking for someone who can help me assemble this keyboard.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #265 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 23:38:38 »
Looking for someone who can help me assemble this keyboard.

pleasebemyfriend does build services and is in US-CA, I think.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #266 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 17:10:13 »
The main space bar on both of my PCB's doesn't seem to be functioning, testing with tweezers there is no input registered on any of the multiple possible combinations (though the LSPACE and RSPACE pads all seem to be working). Is this a programming thing? I can jumper over to the RSPACE, but it seems odd that both the PCB's would have the same issue.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #267 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 17:12:30 »
The main space bar on both of my PCB's doesn't seem to be functioning, testing with tweezers there is no input registered on any of the multiple possible combinations (though the LSPACE and RSPACE pads all seem to be working). Is this a programming thing? I can jumper over to the RSPACE, but it seems odd that both the PCB's would have the same issue.

How funny -- haytorius had the same issue. Gonna ping him.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #268 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 17:17:44 »

How funny -- haytorius had the same issue. Gonna ping him.

Got it sorted out, I think just an issue of how it was pre-programmed.

Downloaded the latest Jigon software from here: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=2702787&mid=board_sw

And changing the bottom row to lctrl lgui lalt space lalt none space none none did the trick, not sure what it was before, but that did the trick! :-)

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #269 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 17:22:17 »
The main space bar on both of my PCB's doesn't seem to be functioning, testing with tweezers there is no input registered on any of the multiple possible combinations (though the LSPACE and RSPACE pads all seem to be working). Is this a programming thing? I can jumper over to the RSPACE, but it seems odd that both the PCB's would have the same issue.


How funny -- haytorius had the same issue. Gonna ping him.

Got it sorted out, I think just an issue of how it was pre-programmed.

Downloaded the latest Jigon software from here: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=2702787&mid=board_sw

And changing the bottom row to lctrl lgui lalt space lalt none space none none did the trick, not sure what it was before, but that did the trick! :-)


I'm having a similar issue where I can't get my spacebar to activate, whoever, downloading Jigon was not able to fix my issue. In fact, every time I try to "connect keyboard" in the Jigon software, the software just disappears from my screen.

Additionally, when I try to flash the latest firmware (or the reset) software I receive the following communication error:

203738-0

Also, not all of my RGBs are lighting up and my INS key spot is also not working.

Any advice is much appreciated, thanks!

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #270 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 17:39:36 »
@hayt, I had the same issue, but when I loaded up the jigon software I was able to connect without having to do that flash thing first.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #271 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 17:43:28 »
@hayt, I had the same issue, but when I loaded up the jigon software I was able to connect without having to do that flash thing first.

I wish this worked but I cannot get my keyboard to interface with the jigon software. Every time I go to keyboard > connect, the software simply disappears off of my screen.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #272 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 18:17:42 »
Ugh. I hope I don't have any issues.
I've never used this software before.
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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #273 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 18:28:17 »
The main space bar on both of my PCB's doesn't seem to be functioning, testing with tweezers there is no input registered on any of the multiple possible combinations (though the LSPACE and RSPACE pads all seem to be working). Is this a programming thing? I can jumper over to the RSPACE, but it seems odd that both the PCB's would have the same issue.


How funny -- haytorius had the same issue. Gonna ping him.

Got it sorted out, I think just an issue of how it was pre-programmed.

Downloaded the latest Jigon software from here: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=2702787&mid=board_sw

And changing the bottom row to lctrl lgui lalt space lalt none space none none did the trick, not sure what it was before, but that did the trick! :-)


I'm having a similar issue where I can't get my spacebar to activate, whoever, downloading Jigon was not able to fix my issue. In fact, every time I try to "connect keyboard" in the Jigon software, the software just disappears from my screen.

Additionally, when I try to flash the latest firmware (or the reset) software I receive the following communication error:

[ Attachment Invalid Or Does Not Exist ]

Also, not all of my RGBs are lighting up and my INS key spot is also not working.

Any advice is much appreciated, thanks!
I had a similar issue with one of my two pcbs with not all rgbs lighting up. The top row of rgbs weren't working. The top row seemed to be connected electrically in a series configuration because I added a bit more solder to all the rgb pads and it worked fine after that. So my guess is that you have a cold joint somewhere.

I'm having similar issues with the middle spacebar not working, but that seems to be a software thing. Haven't gotten around to building yet, so hopefully when I do, the software thing will sort me out

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #274 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 18:50:21 »
The main space bar on both of my PCB's doesn't seem to be functioning, testing with tweezers there is no input registered on any of the multiple possible combinations (though the LSPACE and RSPACE pads all seem to be working). Is this a programming thing? I can jumper over to the RSPACE, but it seems odd that both the PCB's would have the same issue.


How funny -- haytorius had the same issue. Gonna ping him.

Got it sorted out, I think just an issue of how it was pre-programmed.

Downloaded the latest Jigon software from here: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=2702787&mid=board_sw

And changing the bottom row to lctrl lgui lalt space lalt none space none none did the trick, not sure what it was before, but that did the trick! :-)


I'm having a similar issue where I can't get my spacebar to activate, whoever, downloading Jigon was not able to fix my issue. In fact, every time I try to "connect keyboard" in the Jigon software, the software just disappears from my screen.

Additionally, when I try to flash the latest firmware (or the reset) software I receive the following communication error:

[ Attachment Invalid Or Does Not Exist ]

Also, not all of my RGBs are lighting up and my INS key spot is also not working.

Any advice is much appreciated, thanks!

This happened with both of my PCBs as well. Could not flash them with the reset, L3_170419 or L3_171209 firmware: "Error reading page size...".
I could still connect to the PCBs with JigOn and change the RGB settings for instance.  Luckily, all RGB LEDs seemed to light up properly.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #275 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 19:10:38 »
The spacebar is usually mapped to nothing or "fn" on about four PCBs I have come across for some reason. Remapping them fixes it usually.

The Firmware version needs to be the same as the JiGon version or you'll experience some issues connecting.

Here's a thread with a PDF of how to use the software and features.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83950.0

Or my Google drive copy: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxj1uQZLldD7TmJwZmF2QjVMdVE/view?usp=drivesdk

Any more questions, feel free to ask and I'll try my best. Now I need to also test my PCB because I haven't as of yet..
« Last Edit: Sun, 16 September 2018, 19:15:41 by wholypantalones »

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #276 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 19:14:15 »
The Firmware version needs to be the same as the JiGon version or you'll experience some issues connecting.





Here are the latest versions of the Firmware and Jigon on the website. Does it matter that the numbers are not matching?

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #277 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 19:25:13 »
The Firmware version needs to be the same as the JiGon version or you'll experience some issues connecting.


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Here are the latest versions of the Firmware and Jigon on the website. Does it matter that the numbers are not matching?

Yeap, those are the latest.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #278 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 19:29:58 »
The Firmware version needs to be the same as the JiGon version or you'll experience some issues connecting.


(Attachment Link)


Here are the latest versions of the Firmware and Jigon on the website. Does it matter that the numbers are not matching?

Yes, it does matter. I've had some issues using 171209 firmware with 170419 jiGon.

You want to download L3_FW_RESET.zip. This is actually the 170419 firmware.

If that doesn't work, here's my local copy uploaded to drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Waza6LGTQuO7qHiHQrMtADCrIMcKNyKu/view?usp=sharing

And then JigOn_170419.zip (Key mapping GUI)

Unzip the firmware folder (L3_FW_RESET or JigOn_170419_firmware.zip) and click loadfw.bat and follow the command prompt. Firmware has been updated.

Unzip jiGon and follow the instructions in the above thread pdf or my uploaded copy to update the keymaps, fn layers and rgb leds.

If nothing works on your pcb and your rgb leds light up and keep spinning, you need to reflash the bootloader. Demonstration: https://photos.app.goo.gl/QotwB6m6zC7GtbMq8
« Last Edit: Sun, 16 September 2018, 19:46:48 by wholypantalones »

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #279 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 19:50:32 »
communication error:

Direct plug computer usb port.

Sometimes USB hubs and USB ports occur.
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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #280 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 20:27:59 »
The Firmware version needs to be the same as the JiGon version or you'll experience some issues connecting.


(Attachment Link)


Here are the latest versions of the Firmware and Jigon on the website. Does it matter that the numbers are not matching?

Yes, it does matter. I've had some issues using 171209 firmware with 170419 jiGon.

You want to download L3_FW_RESET.zip. This is actually the 170419 firmware.

If that doesn't work, here's my local copy uploaded to drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Waza6LGTQuO7qHiHQrMtADCrIMcKNyKu/view?usp=sharing

And then JigOn_170419.zip (Key mapping GUI)

Unzip the firmware folder (L3_FW_RESET or JigOn_170419_firmware.zip) and click loadfw.bat and follow the command prompt. Firmware has been updated.

Unzip jiGon and follow the instructions in the above thread pdf or my uploaded copy to update the keymaps, fn layers and rgb leds.

If nothing works on your pcb and your rgb leds light up and keep spinning, you need to reflash the bootloader. Demonstration: https://photos.app.goo.gl/QotwB6m6zC7GtbMq8

Are you sure?  AFAIK, with L3 the latest is supposed to be the greatest.
I have noticed that some boards with preloaded firmware fails to update successfully to the latest firmware.
They need to be reset with L3_FW_RESET first.  That might be interpreted as firmware and JigOn supposed to be version matched.
If the firmware and JigOn need to be version matched, then there would be a lot of orphaned firmwares.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #281 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 20:34:37 »
The Firmware version needs to be the same as the JiGon version or you'll experience some issues connecting.


(Attachment Link)


Here are the latest versions of the Firmware and Jigon on the website. Does it matter that the numbers are not matching?

Yes, it does matter. I've had some issues using 171209 firmware with 170419 jiGon.

You want to download L3_FW_RESET.zip. This is actually the 170419 firmware.

If that doesn't work, here's my local copy uploaded to drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Waza6LGTQuO7qHiHQrMtADCrIMcKNyKu/view?usp=sharing

And then JigOn_170419.zip (Key mapping GUI)

Unzip the firmware folder (L3_FW_RESET or JigOn_170419_firmware.zip) and click loadfw.bat and follow the command prompt. Firmware has been updated.

Unzip jiGon and follow the instructions in the above thread pdf or my uploaded copy to update the keymaps, fn layers and rgb leds.

If nothing works on your pcb and your rgb leds light up and keep spinning, you need to reflash the bootloader. Demonstration: https://photos.app.goo.gl/QotwB6m6zC7GtbMq8

Are you sure?  AFAIK, with L3 the latest is supposed to be the greatest.
I have noticed that some boards with preloaded firmware fails to update successfully to the latest firmware.
They need to be reset with L3_FW_RESET first.  That might be interpreted as firmware and JigOn supposed to be version matched.
If the firmware and JigOn need to be version matched, then there would be a lot of orphaned firmwares.

Download the 171209 zip and the reset zip. Same files, hence firmware. The reset zip contains firmware and a cmd that resets the hex file iirc.

Also: I've had some issues using 171209 firmware with 170419 jiGon as I stated above.
« Last Edit: Sun, 16 September 2018, 20:36:24 by wholypantalones »

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #282 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 20:41:42 »
The Firmware version needs to be the same as the JiGon version or you'll experience some issues connecting.


(Attachment Link)


Here are the latest versions of the Firmware and Jigon on the website. Does it matter that the numbers are not matching?

Yes, it does matter. I've had some issues using 171209 firmware with 170419 jiGon.

You want to download L3_FW_RESET.zip. This is actually the 170419 firmware.

If that doesn't work, here's my local copy uploaded to drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Waza6LGTQuO7qHiHQrMtADCrIMcKNyKu/view?usp=sharing

And then JigOn_170419.zip (Key mapping GUI)

Unzip the firmware folder (L3_FW_RESET or JigOn_170419_firmware.zip) and click loadfw.bat and follow the command prompt. Firmware has been updated.

Unzip jiGon and follow the instructions in the above thread pdf or my uploaded copy to update the keymaps, fn layers and rgb leds.

If nothing works on your pcb and your rgb leds light up and keep spinning, you need to reflash the bootloader. Demonstration: https://photos.app.goo.gl/QotwB6m6zC7GtbMq8

Are you sure?  AFAIK, with L3 the latest is supposed to be the greatest.
I have noticed that some boards with preloaded firmware fails to update successfully to the latest firmware.
They need to be reset with L3_FW_RESET first.  That might be interpreted as firmware and JigOn supposed to be version matched.
If the firmware and JigOn need to be version matched, then there would be a lot of orphaned firmwares.

Download the 171209 zip and the reset zip. Same files, hence firmware. The reset zip contains firmware and a cmd that resets the hex file iirc.

Also: I've had some issues using 171209 firmware with 170419 jiGon as I stated above.

I suppose the procedure you are describing is simple indeed when you are starting off.  :thumb:
That said, I want to dispel the notion that firmware and JigOn versions need to be matched.
If that is the case, the latest firmware can not be used.  Firmwares have been released more frequently than JigOn.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #283 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 20:46:32 »
The Firmware version needs to be the same as the JiGon version or you'll experience some issues connecting.


(Attachment Link)


Here are the latest versions of the Firmware and Jigon on the website. Does it matter that the numbers are not matching?

Yes, it does matter. I've had some issues using 171209 firmware with 170419 jiGon.

You want to download L3_FW_RESET.zip. This is actually the 170419 firmware.

If that doesn't work, here's my local copy uploaded to drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Waza6LGTQuO7qHiHQrMtADCrIMcKNyKu/view?usp=sharing

And then JigOn_170419.zip (Key mapping GUI)

Unzip the firmware folder (L3_FW_RESET or JigOn_170419_firmware.zip) and click loadfw.bat and follow the command prompt. Firmware has been updated.

Unzip jiGon and follow the instructions in the above thread pdf or my uploaded copy to update the keymaps, fn layers and rgb leds.

If nothing works on your pcb and your rgb leds light up and keep spinning, you need to reflash the bootloader. Demonstration: https://photos.app.goo.gl/QotwB6m6zC7GtbMq8

Are you sure?  AFAIK, with L3 the latest is supposed to be the greatest.
I have noticed that some boards with preloaded firmware fails to update successfully to the latest firmware.
They need to be reset with L3_FW_RESET first.  That might be interpreted as firmware and JigOn supposed to be version matched.
If the firmware and JigOn need to be version matched, then there would be a lot of orphaned firmwares.

Download the 171209 zip and the reset zip. Same files, hence firmware. The reset zip contains firmware and a cmd that resets the hex file iirc.

Also: I've had some issues using 171209 firmware with 170419 jiGon as I stated above.

I suppose the procedure you are describing is simple indeed when you are starting off.  :thumb:
That said, I want to dispel the notion that firmware and JigOn versions need to be matched.
If that is the case, the latest firmware can not be used.  Firmwares have been released more frequently than JigOn.

Dispel it all you want, I'm not going to argue with you about it. There have been issues outside of mine reported with using a different version of firmware than jiGon in many threads here.

I'm just trying to help people get thier keyboard working regardless.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #284 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 20:51:00 »
The Firmware version needs to be the same as the JiGon version or you'll experience some issues connecting.


(Attachment Link)


Here are the latest versions of the Firmware and Jigon on the website. Does it matter that the numbers are not matching?

Yes, it does matter. I've had some issues using 171209 firmware with 170419 jiGon.

You want to download L3_FW_RESET.zip. This is actually the 170419 firmware.

If that doesn't work, here's my local copy uploaded to drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Waza6LGTQuO7qHiHQrMtADCrIMcKNyKu/view?usp=sharing

And then JigOn_170419.zip (Key mapping GUI)

Unzip the firmware folder (L3_FW_RESET or JigOn_170419_firmware.zip) and click loadfw.bat and follow the command prompt. Firmware has been updated.

Unzip jiGon and follow the instructions in the above thread pdf or my uploaded copy to update the keymaps, fn layers and rgb leds.

If nothing works on your pcb and your rgb leds light up and keep spinning, you need to reflash the bootloader. Demonstration: https://photos.app.goo.gl/QotwB6m6zC7GtbMq8

Are you sure?  AFAIK, with L3 the latest is supposed to be the greatest.
I have noticed that some boards with preloaded firmware fails to update successfully to the latest firmware.
They need to be reset with L3_FW_RESET first.  That might be interpreted as firmware and JigOn supposed to be version matched.
If the firmware and JigOn need to be version matched, then there would be a lot of orphaned firmwares.

Download the 171209 zip and the reset zip. Same files, hence firmware. The reset zip contains firmware and a cmd that resets the hex file iirc.

Also: I've had some issues using 171209 firmware with 170419 jiGon as I stated above.

I suppose the procedure you are describing is simple indeed when you are starting off.  :thumb:
That said, I want to dispel the notion that firmware and JigOn versions need to be matched.
If that is the case, the latest firmware can not be used.  Firmwares have been released more frequently than JigOn.

Dispel it all you want, I'm not going to argue with you about it. There have been issues outside of mine reported with using a different version of firmware than jiGon in many threads here.

I'm just trying to help people get thier keyboard working regardless.

Sure knock yourself out  :thumb: Just don't spread wrong info.  :p

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #285 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 23:21:21 »
Hold ~ when plugging in. This will hard reset to default. This work for me when I have the same issue with L3 pcb.


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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #286 on: Mon, 17 September 2018, 09:23:40 »
communication error:

Direct plug computer usb port.

Sometimes USB hubs and USB ports occur.

Yes. 
Whenever I see this I just change ports on my USB hub.
Happens with bootmapper client too.

« Last Edit: Mon, 17 September 2018, 09:27:04 by MajorKoos »

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #287 on: Mon, 17 September 2018, 09:30:35 »
Thanks, All for your help!

While I am still receiving that same communication error that I posted before, I switched to a new PC and was able to get the Jigon software to connect. So everything seems to be working now!

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #288 on: Mon, 17 September 2018, 11:22:49 »
Thanks, All for your help!

While I am still receiving that same communication error that I posted before, I switched to a new PC and was able to get the Jigon software to connect. So everything seems to be working now!

Could it be you're missing the arduino drivers on that PC?

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #289 on: Mon, 17 September 2018, 16:07:43 »
Is anyone able to get the PCB into bootloader mode by holding down ~ when plugging the board in? I can't seem to do it and the board just boots up normally.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #290 on: Tue, 18 September 2018, 09:53:44 »
Could it be you're missing the arduino drivers on that PC?

Is there anywhere to find a list of "good to know" when it comes to Leeku PCB and JigOn. I'm also moving from one computer to another, changing ports and suddenly it works sort of. I don't get the automatic visualization by pressing a button, I have to manually click on it and then assign what I want.

So far I've seen the recommendation of using same version of firmware as JigOn. If it works with different version it's luck, if not it's poop.

Arduino drivers? I've never had them installed. I did install them yesterday and tried but it behaved the same.

USB cable must or should be inserted directly to the motherboard?

How about using a virtual machine?

I don't reassign keys alot but when I do it would be nice to have it working. So if anyone have good info to share please do so. From reading various threads where GBs with Leeku PCBs have been included it's seems like alot of people have alot of problems.

The LZ-case is amazing but the issues with PCBs takes away some of the joy.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #291 on: Tue, 18 September 2018, 10:57:02 »
Could it be you're missing the arduino drivers on that PC?

Is there anywhere to find a list of "good to know" when it comes to Leeku PCB and JigOn. I'm also moving from one computer to another, changing ports and suddenly it works sort of. I don't get the automatic visualization by pressing a button, I have to manually click on it and then assign what I want.

So far I've seen the recommendation of using same version of firmware as JigOn. If it works with different version it's luck, if not it's poop.

Arduino drivers? I've never had them installed. I did install them yesterday and tried but it behaved the same.

USB cable must or should be inserted directly to the motherboard?

How about using a virtual machine?

I don't reassign keys alot but when I do it would be nice to have it working. So if anyone have good info to share please do so. From reading various threads where GBs with Leeku PCBs have been included it's seems like alot of people have alot of problems.

The LZ-case is amazing but the issues with PCBs takes away some of the joy.

Here's the manual:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v24vygvyl4mvqrm/AABUNcm0BDioYE5QbArje0Kba?dl=1

Keep the app and firmware versions in sync unless you feel like reading the changelog to figure out compatibility on your own.
The QMK firmware includes a setup script to install all the common arduino drivers and firmware flashing tools. 
You can use those tools to update the firmware on your keyboard using the L3 hex file without needing to use the L3 software - useful if the app won't connect and you want to upgrade/downgrade the firmware.

VM's won't work - Windows only.

USB 3 hubs/ports can be problematic, and I suspect this accounts for >50% of the reported issues.
Sometimes when you choose the connect option in the software it wont connect - that's when you pick another USB port on your hub or PC (I've seen it with other firmware too).
ymmv

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #292 on: Tue, 18 September 2018, 20:21:11 »
L3 boards are easy to deal with when you are aware of just a few things.

When flashing (with loadfw.bat under L3_yymmdd.zip) or updating settings (with JigOn), make sure:
1) L3 board is directly connected to PC's USB
2) There is just one L3 board connected to the PC

If the board is in weird state (not recognized as "L3" device or does not work with the latest firmware update or JigOn)
1) Boot into bootloader (press/short ~ and connect USB, "HIDBOOT" device gets recognized)
2) Run loadfw.bat under L3_FW_RESET.zip

Occasionally, bootloader/firmware are blown due to static electricity or voltage spike from faulty components (especially RGB LEDs), MCU needs to be reprogrammed via ISP loader physically connected to the board.
I haven't seen this being done on GH, so it would be really handy to have someone local (familiar with this sort of things) come up to speed.  If you need the connector (looks like this http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_CDST33&document_srl=3854117), make one or talk to someone on kbdlab.  My guess is there are fair number of PCBs with blown bootloader/firmware floating around.
If MCU reprogramming doesn't fix things, most likely you are dealing with component failure.  This is beyond typical DIY territory, so your best bet is to talk to the GB runner or local guru.

IMO, L3 boards and software are proven with years of track record.  It's easy to solder and utilities are all self contained.  There are idiosyncrasies like JigOn UI and limited hub/multi device support, but most people don't flash/update their keyboards often.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #293 on: Tue, 18 September 2018, 23:27:27 »

...
Occasionally, bootloader/firmware are blown due to static electricity or voltage spike from faulty components (especially RGB LEDs), MCU needs to be reprogrammed via ISP loader physically connected to the board.
I haven't seen this being done on GH, so it would be really handy to have someone local (familiar with this sort of things) come up to speed.
...

I corrupted the firmware on a L3 PCB within the first few days (messing around with LEDs) and had to reprogram the bootloader for it to be recognized by windows.  There's a breakout on the PCB to program the MCU (it doesn't have native USB), and you can You can use something like this: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9825
If you have a raspberry pi handy you can use it as an AVR programmer via the GPIO pins too - iirc I used avrdude.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #294 on: Wed, 19 September 2018, 00:01:40 »

...
Occasionally, bootloader/firmware are blown due to static electricity or voltage spike from faulty components (especially RGB LEDs), MCU needs to be reprogrammed via ISP loader physically connected to the board.
I haven't seen this being done on GH, so it would be really handy to have someone local (familiar with this sort of things) come up to speed.
...

I corrupted the firmware on a L3 PCB within the first few days (messing around with LEDs) and had to reprogram the bootloader for it to be recognized by windows.  There's a breakout on the PCB to program the MCU (it doesn't have native USB), and you can You can use something like this: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9825
If you have a raspberry pi handy you can use it as an AVR programmer via the GPIO pins too - iirc I used avrdude.

Nicely done!  As long as you can program the MCU, there is no reason to be restricted to specific tools!

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #295 on: Wed, 19 September 2018, 01:31:18 »
Could it be you're missing the arduino drivers on that PC?

Is there anywhere to find a list of "good to know" when it comes to Leeku PCB and JigOn. I'm also moving from one computer to another, changing ports and suddenly it works sort of. I don't get the automatic visualization by pressing a button, I have to manually click on it and then assign what I want.

So far I've seen the recommendation of using same version of firmware as JigOn. If it works with different version it's luck, if not it's poop.

Arduino drivers? I've never had them installed. I did install them yesterday and tried but it behaved the same.

USB cable must or should be inserted directly to the motherboard?

How about using a virtual machine?

I don't reassign keys alot but when I do it would be nice to have it working. So if anyone have good info to share please do so. From reading various threads where GBs with Leeku PCBs have been included it's seems like alot of people have alot of problems.

The LZ-case is amazing but the issues with PCBs takes away some of the joy.

Here's the manual:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v24vygvyl4mvqrm/AABUNcm0BDioYE5QbArje0Kba?dl=1

Keep the app and firmware versions in sync unless you feel like reading the changelog to figure out compatibility on your own.
The QMK firmware includes a setup script to install all the common arduino drivers and firmware flashing tools. 
You can use those tools to update the firmware on your keyboard using the L3 hex file without needing to use the L3 software - useful if the app won't connect and you want to upgrade/downgrade the firmware.

VM's won't work - Windows only.

USB 3 hubs/ports can be problematic, and I suspect this accounts for >50% of the reported issues.
Sometimes when you choose the connect option in the software it wont connect - that's when you pick another USB port on your hub or PC (I've seen it with other firmware too).
ymmv

L3 boards are easy to deal with when you are aware of just a few things.

When flashing (with loadfw.bat under L3_yymmdd.zip) or updating settings (with JigOn), make sure:
1) L3 board is directly connected to PC's USB
2) There is just one L3 board connected to the PC

If the board is in weird state (not recognized as "L3" device or does not work with the latest firmware update or JigOn)
1) Boot into bootloader (press/short ~ and connect USB, "HIDBOOT" device gets recognized)
2) Run loadfw.bat under L3_FW_RESET.zip

Occasionally, bootloader/firmware are blown due to static electricity or voltage spike from faulty components (especially RGB LEDs), MCU needs to be reprogrammed via ISP loader physically connected to the board.
I haven't seen this being done on GH, so it would be really handy to have someone local (familiar with this sort of things) come up to speed.  If you need the connector (looks like this http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_CDST33&document_srl=3854117), make one or talk to someone on kbdlab.  My guess is there are fair number of PCBs with blown bootloader/firmware floating around.
If MCU reprogramming doesn't fix things, most likely you are dealing with component failure.  This is beyond typical DIY territory, so your best bet is to talk to the GB runner or local guru.

IMO, L3 boards and software are proven with years of track record.  It's easy to solder and utilities are all self contained.  There are idiosyncrasies like JigOn UI and limited hub/multi device support, but most people don't flash/update their keyboards often.

I didn't have time yesterday to sit down with this. On the other hand I'm not really having trouble with it either. I just want to reach a point where I feel I can reassign my keys on any computer, at any time.

1. Windows must be used. I have Windows 10 x64 and Windows 7 x64 and have had success on both. Does it matter which Windows version or x86/x64? No virtual environment.

2. Keep firmware and JigOn at same version. This leaves us at version 170419.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/?module=file&act=procFileDownload&file_srl=4319637&sid=8eeb015b56e861f18eb781d3e8f1fe95
http://kbdlab.co.kr/?module=file&act=procFileDownload&file_srl=4319636&sid=70c6a65c1bdab6fe858da44aab626fbc

3. Install arduino drivers. Setup script from QMK. I'm guessing that you mean msys2??
http://www.msys2.org/

4. Is there a way to see what version is flashed from factory? I guess using avrdude and boot the keyboard would give some info?

Thank you for helping me out and I think that others may also have benefit from this.

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #296 on: Wed, 19 September 2018, 06:04:50 »
Received my board today in perfect condition, couldn’t be happier. The blue is absolutely amazing. Thanks LZ!

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #297 on: Wed, 19 September 2018, 06:59:06 »
The Firmware version needs to be the same as the JiGon version or you'll experience some issues connecting.


(Attachment Link)


Here are the latest versions of the Firmware and Jigon on the website. Does it matter that the numbers are not matching?

Yes, it does matter. I've had some issues using 171209 firmware with 170419 jiGon.

You want to download L3_FW_RESET.zip. This is actually the 170419 firmware.

If that doesn't work, here's my local copy uploaded to drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Waza6LGTQuO7qHiHQrMtADCrIMcKNyKu/view?usp=sharing

And then JigOn_170419.zip (Key mapping GUI)

Unzip the firmware folder (L3_FW_RESET or JigOn_170419_firmware.zip) and click loadfw.bat and follow the command prompt. Firmware has been updated.

Unzip jiGon and follow the instructions in the above thread pdf or my uploaded copy to update the keymaps, fn layers and rgb leds.

If nothing works on your pcb and your rgb leds light up and keep spinning, you need to reflash the bootloader. Demonstration: https://photos.app.goo.gl/QotwB6m6zC7GtbMq8

Are you sure?  AFAIK, with L3 the latest is supposed to be the greatest.
I have noticed that some boards with preloaded firmware fails to update successfully to the latest firmware.
They need to be reset with L3_FW_RESET first.  That might be interpreted as firmware and JigOn supposed to be version matched.
If the firmware and JigOn need to be version matched, then there would be a lot of orphaned firmwares.

Download the 171209 zip and the reset zip. Same files, hence firmware. The reset zip contains firmware and a cmd that resets the hex file iirc.

Also: I've had some issues using 171209 firmware with 170419 jiGon as I stated above.

I suppose the procedure you are describing is simple indeed when you are starting off.  :thumb:
That said, I want to dispel the notion that firmware and JigOn versions need to be matched.
If that is the case, the latest firmware can not be used.  Firmwares have been released more frequently than JigOn.

Dispel it all you want, I'm not going to argue with you about it. There have been issues outside of mine reported with using a different version of firmware than jiGon in many threads here.

I'm just trying to help people get thier keyboard working regardless.

Sure knock yourself out  :thumb: Just don't spread wrong info.  :p

Strange that I've seen a few others post about keeping the firmware and jigon at the same version now, must not be the wrong information.  ;D

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #298 on: Wed, 19 September 2018, 08:53:39 »
^^^^^
The "correct' answer is "it depends". 

The app communicates with the keyboard via a HID API and sends control codes to put it into programming mode, pull the stored keymap from the eeprom, write a new one back, etc.  It's also got bits for the LED's and RGBling.  The config is stored on the keyboard and read into the app when you hit "connect".

It's totally possible to rev the app and firmware independently of each other as long as the communication protocol doesn't change and the keymap/config data stays the same.  Fixing bugs, updating libraries, etc. are a good example of this and the reason you see the firmware version being incremented more often than the app.  If the communications protocol or stored config change you can end up with the app not exposing the feature you want to configure or having it write data back into eeprom that the firmware doesn't recognize and bricking the PCB. 

No-one's put together a compatibility matrix so there is a lot of FUD out there about which versions of the app and firmware work with each other.  The challenge is that the MCU doesn't support native USB so if you screw up you may need to solder some header pins to the PCB and use an AVR programmer to recover the firmware.  It's trivial if you know how and have the tools - otherwise you could apply too much voltage to the wrong pin, fry the MCU completely and get to experience the joys of surface mounting a new one. 

If everything above made sense you're more than capable of figuring out what works and doesn't on your own - it's not rocket science.  If you don't feel fluffy with the idea of soldering headers to the PCB and using an AVR programmer stick with the app/firmware combo recommended by LZ.
« Last Edit: Wed, 19 September 2018, 08:57:37 by MajorKoos »

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Re: [GB] LZ GH V2 : Shiped 99%
« Reply #299 on: Wed, 19 September 2018, 11:40:04 »
it's not rocket science

Could it be you're missing the arduino drivers on that PC?

Is there anywhere to find a list of "good to know" when it comes to Leeku PCB and JigOn. I'm also moving from one computer to another, changing ports and suddenly it works sort of. I don't get the automatic visualization by pressing a button, I have to manually click on it and then assign what I want.

So far I've seen the recommendation of using same version of firmware as JigOn. If it works with different version it's luck, if not it's poop.

Arduino drivers? I've never had them installed. I did install them yesterday and tried but it behaved the same.

USB cable must or should be inserted directly to the motherboard?

How about using a virtual machine?

I don't reassign keys alot but when I do it would be nice to have it working. So if anyone have good info to share please do so. From reading various threads where GBs with Leeku PCBs have been included it's seems like alot of people have alot of problems.

The LZ-case is amazing but the issues with PCBs takes away some of the joy.

Here's the manual:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v24vygvyl4mvqrm/AABUNcm0BDioYE5QbArje0Kba?dl=1

Keep the app and firmware versions in sync unless you feel like reading the changelog to figure out compatibility on your own.
The QMK firmware includes a setup script to install all the common arduino drivers and firmware flashing tools. 
You can use those tools to update the firmware on your keyboard using the L3 hex file without needing to use the L3 software - useful if the app won't connect and you want to upgrade/downgrade the firmware.

VM's won't work - Windows only.

USB 3 hubs/ports can be problematic, and I suspect this accounts for >50% of the reported issues.
Sometimes when you choose the connect option in the software it wont connect - that's when you pick another USB port on your hub or PC (I've seen it with other firmware too).
ymmv

L3 boards are easy to deal with when you are aware of just a few things.

When flashing (with loadfw.bat under L3_yymmdd.zip) or updating settings (with JigOn), make sure:
1) L3 board is directly connected to PC's USB
2) There is just one L3 board connected to the PC

If the board is in weird state (not recognized as "L3" device or does not work with the latest firmware update or JigOn)
1) Boot into bootloader (press/short ~ and connect USB, "HIDBOOT" device gets recognized)
2) Run loadfw.bat under L3_FW_RESET.zip

Occasionally, bootloader/firmware are blown due to static electricity or voltage spike from faulty components (especially RGB LEDs), MCU needs to be reprogrammed via ISP loader physically connected to the board.
I haven't seen this being done on GH, so it would be really handy to have someone local (familiar with this sort of things) come up to speed.  If you need the connector (looks like this http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_CDST33&document_srl=3854117), make one or talk to someone on kbdlab.  My guess is there are fair number of PCBs with blown bootloader/firmware floating around.
If MCU reprogramming doesn't fix things, most likely you are dealing with component failure.  This is beyond typical DIY territory, so your best bet is to talk to the GB runner or local guru.

IMO, L3 boards and software are proven with years of track record.  It's easy to solder and utilities are all self contained.  There are idiosyncrasies like JigOn UI and limited hub/multi device support, but most people don't flash/update their keyboards often.

I didn't have time yesterday to sit down with this. On the other hand I'm not really having trouble with it either. I just want to reach a point where I feel I can reassign my keys on any computer, at any time.

1. Windows must be used. I have Windows 10 x64 and Windows 7 x64 and have had success on both. Does it matter which Windows version or x86/x64? No virtual environment.

2. Keep firmware and JigOn at same version. This leaves us at version 170419.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/?module=file&act=procFileDownload&file_srl=4319637&sid=8eeb015b56e861f18eb781d3e8f1fe95
http://kbdlab.co.kr/?module=file&act=procFileDownload&file_srl=4319636&sid=70c6a65c1bdab6fe858da44aab626fbc

3. Install arduino drivers. Setup script from QMK. I'm guessing that you mean msys2??
http://www.msys2.org/

4. Is there a way to see what version is flashed from factory? I guess using avrdude and boot the keyboard would give some info?

Thank you for helping me out and I think that others may also have benefit from this.


Where can I find "The QMK firmware includes a setup script to install all the common arduino drivers and firmware flashing tools"?