[IC] RGBYO double shot kit [need color help]

[danielucf]

We had a lot of information in the last RGBY interest check. I'm going to try and consolidate everything from memory that we mentioned and see if we can get everything that we want. Since the other interest check was up for a decent amount of time I'm hoping to keep this one to maybe a week or less.
Here are the bullet points that I think we wanted:

• Double shots from SP
• Colors - Red, Green, Blue, Yellow, and Orange (Two 1.25x red, blue, and yellow / one 1.25x orange, one green left shift and another green right shift)
• Black and White legends (Cherry)
• Iso keys as a two piece set (smallfry can elaborate)
• 1.75x shift for Pure, and 1x green key to go next to the shift
• Selling the keys as individuals so that people that think they may wear out left shifts gaming can order extras
• Maybe slightly different shades of RGBYO than have been done previously. Open to suggestions
• Maybe 1x size yellow keys to go with 1.5x modifier set
• Maybe purple or pink alternate colors for orange since we may build the sets a la cart
• Escape key?

Click here to see some of the questionnaire answers

Colors
Red - RA
Green - VCM
Blue - BDH
Yellow - YBP
Orange - ?

black text - NN
white text - WFK

Possible modifiers:
Lavender - ?
Pink - ? (RCR or RCS)
Teal - ?

The potential sets:

1.25 Set   
2x1.25 ctrl
2x1.25 alt
2x1.25 Window
1x1.25 menu
1x2.75 right shift
1x2.25 left shift
esc 1x

1.5 set   
2x1.5 ctrl
2x1.5 alt
2x1 win
1x2.75 right shift
1x2.25 left shift
exc 1x

Pure Set   
1.75 right shift
1 modifier key (Same color as the 1.75 right shift)

Iso set
Just one 1.25x left shift key

Number Crunching:

1.25 Set   
25       $47.71
50       $28.12
75       $21.58
100     $18.31
150     $15.01
200     $13.41
250     $12.27
500     $10.27
750     $9.67
1000   $9.30

1.25 Set w/Pure   
25    $56.76
50    $33.26
75    $25.40
100    $21.48
150    $17.52
200    $15.60
250    $14.12
500    $11.72
750    $11.00
1000    $10.56

1.25 Set w/Pure and ISO   
25    $61.43
50    $35.97
75    $27.46
100    $23.21
150    $18.92
200    $16.84
250    $15.26
500    $12.66
750    $11.88
1000    $11.41

1.5 Set   
25    $42.46
50    $24.85
75    $18.92
100    $16.00
150    $13.03
200    $11.59
250    $10.27
500    $8.47
750    $7.93
1000    $7.57

1.5 Set w/Pure   
25    $51.51
50    $29.99
75    $22.74
100    $19.17
150    $15.54
200    $13.78
250    $12.12
500    $9.92
750    $9.26
1000    $8.83

1.5 Set w/Pure and ISO   
25    $56.18
50    $32.70
75   24.8
100    $20.90
150    $16.94
200    $15.02
250    $13.26
500    $10.86
750    $10.14
1000    $9.68

1x size key a la cart price
25    $4.38
50    $2.43
75    $1.76
100    $1.44
150    $1.11
200    $0.95
250    $0.71
500    $0.51
750    $0.45
1000   $0.41

1.25, 1.5, and 1.75 size key a la cart price
25   $4.67
50   $2.71
75   $2.06
100   $1.73
150   $1.4
200   $1.24
250   $1.14
500   $0.94
750   $0.88
1000 $0.85

2.25 and 2.75 size a la cart price
25    $5.32
50    $3.36
75    $2.70
100    $2.38
150    $2.05
200    $1.89
250    $1.79
500    $1.59
750    $1.53
1000  $1.47

[SmallFry]

Thanks dude! I'll help however I can!

[SmallFry]

Here's a post for me to elaborate in the future.

[MMB]

Dyesub or DoubleShot?

[danielucf]

Dyesub or DoubleShot?

Sorry double shot was in the last interest check, knew I would forget some simple detail, will update the OP.

[danielucf]

What are the standard sizes for the following keys:
left ansi shift
right ansi shift
left iso shift
right iso shift
I think left ansi shift is 2.25x size and right ansi is 2.75x size.

[inlikeflynn]

I think left ansi shift is 2.25x size and right ansi is 2.75x size.

correct

[hashbaz]

ANSI is 2.25 and 2.75. ISO is 1.25 and 2.75. The short right shift from the G80-1800 is 1.75.

[kinruan]

waiting for great rgbyo !

[SmallFry]

I vote for a star key, the more I thought about it, the more I liked the star key better.

[danielucf]

I vote for a star key, the more I thought about it, the more I liked the star key better.

I like that idea too. We can put it to a vote, or just have both a la carte if we want.

Also at the moment I'm waiting on some pricing from SP.

[SmallFry]

We should hop on the IRC to discuss my visions for the kit as well. Shoot me a PM if you want to chat via IRC

[chaosstep]

I'm interested in!

[cgbuen]

Interested! The individuals part sounds great!

[i488]

im interested. havent seen any iso rgby kits
and i want the white fonts for both kits

[nolliepoper]

Interested in RGBYO plus Esc double shot kit.
Prefer diamond over star.

[mbc]

Sorry, but the way you want to do this gb is a really bad idea.
-too many options -> low quantities -> high prices....
-selling individual keys -> too much trouble

[danielucf]

Sorry, but the way you want to do this gb is a really bad idea.
-too many options -> low quantities -> high prices....
-selling individual keys -> too much trouble

Nothing is in stone yet, still an interest check, still accepting constructive feedback. Might only have some extra left shifts and that would be the only a la carte keys besides escapes.

Keep the ideas flowing.

[mbc]

The iso left shift are cheap just add them to all the sets. Same with the escape keys

[eon]

Maybe we can keep things simple and propose only 2 sets:

1.25 set:
- 2x1.25 ctrl
- 2x1.25 alt
- 2x1.25 win
- 1x1.25 menu
- 1x2.75 right shift
- 1x1.75 short right shift
- 1x2.25 left shift
- 1x1.25 left ISO shift
- 1 red esc

1.5 set:
- 2x1.5 ctrl
- 2x1.5 alt
- 2x1.0 win
- 1x2.75 right shift
- 1x2.25 left shift
- 1x1.75 short right shift
- 1 red esc

EDIT: 1x1.75 added to the 1.5 set

[mbc]

The winkeyless set misses the 1.75 shift

[Kensy]

Interested !

[MadScientist46]

This sounds like a great idea!
Interested in a 1.25 Set. Also I'm interested in 1x extra 1.75 short Shift and 1-2x  2.25 left Shifts, if those are available.
All would be with white lettering.

[singaporean123]

interested please take my money

[1391401]

I missed the last couple rounds of this so I'm in for some RGBYO goodness

[modulor]

Perhaps have 2 full kit versions like eon proposed (1.25x and 1.5x), but also have either an add-on kit that contains the extra keys that are new to this round (like the menu key and a 'Pure' adapter with 1.75x Left Shift and 1x key ) or have those available individually?  That way, those that already have current kits can add those on.  Just a suggestion   Either way, looking forward to this next round!

[phetto]

Interested in normal kits aswell as iso.

[eon]

Perhaps have 2 full kit versions like eon proposed (1.25x and 1.5x), but also have either an add-on kit that contains the extra keys that are new to this round (like the menu key and a 'Pure' adapter with 1.75x Left Shift and 1x key ) or have those available individually?

Well in my suggestion the 1.75x right shift is in the set as well as the menu key. I believe the left shift on pure is standard right ? We could add a 1x green key for pure in the 1.25 set too I guess.

[MadScientist46]

Perhaps have 2 full kit versions like eon proposed (1.25x and 1.5x), but also have either an add-on kit that contains the extra keys that are new to this round (like the menu key and a 'Pure' adapter with 1.75x Left Shift and 1x key ) or have those available individually?

We could add a 1x green key for pure in the 1.25 set too I guess.

I totally forget to mention that, I'd like that very much, too.

[xavierblak]

Definitely interested in a 1.25 set.

[sirtetris]

most likeley interested in a 1.25 set
diamon > star

[SmallFry]

The Red Esc keys were shot down by Hashbaz earlier. Sorry guys, just conveying info from the last IC.

[danielucf]

Added a questionnaire, please try and fill it out.

The Red Esc keys were shot down by Hashbaz earlier. Sorry guys, just conveying info from the last IC.

We can still use cherry font for a plain "Esc" escape key.

[Slavfot]

I'm very interested in a full kit with iso shift and an extra 2.25 shift

[danielucf]

Out of ten surveys so far (nice easy number to work with) 70% want the exact same RGBY colors from previous kits
60% are ok with having the pure compatibility kit included
70% want to be able to purchase some keys a la carte (which would actually make sets cheaper by the way if say left shift keys hit the next price tier)
60% don't want the iso key in the set by default
70% do want the option for another color besides orange available a la carte (7 people like the idea of purple, 3 pink some of the same from purple obviously, and one suggestion for teal/turquoise)
80% want 1x keys included with the 1.5 modifier set
60% want star for the 1x keys
shift and control are most popular for a la carte option at the moment, some requests for escape keys one recommendation for menu key options
60% people want diamonds for windows/menu and the rest is mixed opinions some with multiple options

So discuss and lets get more questionnaires filled out so we can have a more accurate representation of what people want.

[chaosstep]

Maybe we can keep things simple and propose only 2 sets:

1.25 set:
- 2x1.25 ctrl
- 2x1.25 alt
- 2x1.25 win
- 1x1.25 menu
- 1x2.75 right shift
- 1x1.75 short right shift
- 1x2.25 left shift
- 1x1.25 left ISO shift
- 1 red esc

1.5 set:
- 2x1.5 ctrl
- 2x1.5 alt
- 2x1.0 win
- 1x2.75 right shift
- 1x2.25 left shift
- 1x1.75 short right shift
- 1 red esc

EDIT: 1x1.75 added to the 1.5 set

I vote to this.

[danielucf]

So we can use Shift, control, and alt cherry font keys but we can't use cherry text "esc" or "Esc" on the escape key, or the graphics of cherries either. Do we just want a blank red key, or what on there? I was thinking of paying the new legend fee out of pocket and having a key that says:
"  no
escape"

How does everyone feel? What do you want for this set? If you are upset then take it up with the people in charge of the cherry legends, not all of them are opposed to allowing us to have a cherry escape key though. I'm also trying to see if hashbaz will sell us his extra escape keys to just include in this set. Those escape keys would not be group buy prices because they are supposed to fund the cherry legend project.

[strafe]

I think the Escape key font should match the other keys.  What is the reason for not being able to use the Cherry font?

[danielucf]

I think the Escape key font should match the other keys.  What is the reason for not being able to use the Cherry font?

No permission from those in charge of the cherry font

[metalliqaz]

Gotta say, after seeing that questionnaire, I'm pretty excited about this now.  All the options!

[chaosstep]

submitted.

[danielucf]

It is looking promising that we will use the cherry escape keys hashbaz has and the proceeds from those keys will go to the cherry replica fund. I'm in the process of seeing how many keys he has, and how much they will be to figure out how much each set will change. This may also give people options as to what escape key they want in their set, and extras should be available if the sales of sets does not use them all up.

[hashbaz]

I'm sure this buy will finish off the extra escape keys I have, and then some.  My main concern was that nobody would buy the keys that benefit the replica fund if the same exact key is available here for less.

[demik]

most likeley interested in a 1.25 set
diamon > star

this guy knows

[sherryton]

My set will not include the ESC key, but I will have a ESC in cherry font for those of you who will be interested.

[houlty]

i'd be in for a 1.25 set, but would want an a la cart 1.25 left shift.

I think this would be the cheapest way to get an ISO set.

[Marclgw]

In for 1 set of 1.25, may add orders later.

[cgbuen]

It's been about a week since this started, which the OP pointed out would be as long as the IC may last. Any update as to what needs to happen for the group buy to get going? I'd love to get it started!

[poopmat]

interested 

[danielucf]

We need to decide on the color codes for everything that has a question mark next to it, and what we want our escape key to be (lower case "esc", "Esc", geekhack, open to suggestions)

Also I want to include an extra escape key with every set until the extras sell out. Doing this will make the sets about $3 more per set but you will get two escape keys, and it will support the cherry replica set. You will have a choice what the extra escape is until that choice sells out.

Tentatively what will be available as the extra escape keys:  60 black Esc, 51 black Cherry logo, 54 white Esc, and 46 white Cherry logo keys. So the first 111 black sets, and first 110 white sets would be $3 more than estimate prices but you can choose an extra escape key.