[IC] GMK Hyperfuse Color Pack + Short Shift + Windowed Keys (updated renders)

[alexjd99]

Looks awesome, would totally grab a set

[Giorgio]

Sounds great! Count me in

This is very nice, but my favourite layout is ISO 1800, so no compatibility at all. Windowed keys in my experience are very expensive.

[SJHL]

Interested.

[chuckdee]

In!

[Kirfloof]

Tentatively interested, though as it stands I'd really need an ISO enter (cyan or purple, pref purple) as I don't have that nice cyan option for the ISO board I run r1 on.

Any thoughts to adding in a numpad enter as well? I know full boards aren't hugely popular, but I tend to feel if you're adding a colour contrast enter you need to do that for both enter keys if you run fullsize.

[menuhin]

Does GMK imply made in Germany?

[kawasaki161]

Does GMK imply made in Germany?

Correct!

[Gajible]

Sign me up <3

[menuhin]

Does GMK imply made in Germany?

Correct!

And does joining the Groupbuy here mean, I (who lives in Germany) have to pay high shipping fee because the shipping will be sent from Germany to the US first before sorting and distribution?

[kawasaki161]

Does GMK imply made in Germany?

Correct!

And does joining the Groupbuy here mean, I (who lives in Germany) have to pay high shipping fee because the shipping will be sent from Germany to the US first before sorting and distribution?

Exactly!

[menuhin]

Does GMK imply made in Germany?

Correct!

And does joining the Groupbuy here mean, I (who lives in Germany) have to pay high shipping fee because the shipping will be sent from Germany to the US first before sorting and distribution?

Exactly!

Wirklich schade.

[hrinfinity]

Always wanted that purple enter key. The short shift is icing on the cake

I'm in!

[kawasaki161]

And does joining the Groupbuy here mean, I (who lives in Germany) have to pay high shipping fee because the shipping will be sent from Germany to the US first before sorting and distribution?

Exactly!

Wirklich schade.

Well, it's usually not that bad, it's a bit more than domestic shipping, but I would guess that this here would end up at $10-18 shipping, which is still bearable imho.

[livingspeedbump]

Ok here is the deal.

I'll get zambu to update the render accordingly but it looks like the kit pictured above + 1u \| key and a windowed num lock key will be around $35. Windowed keys are a bit more expensive than normal keys. There won't be any more keys added to the kit. This is as cheap as we can get it down to. Still a buy for everyone?

[boo]

I'll buy for sure


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[Giorgio]

 

[Vadurr]

interested!

[graefeln]

35$ is a bit more than I wanted, but I do like purple and I do want that esc/enter - 95% sure I will get it.

[thatsmrdoctortoyou]

Definitely interested 

[Malenky]

Yeah I'd definitely pick this up. Hyperfuse is a daily use set for me.

[TerryMathews]

Ok here is the deal.

I'll get zambu to update the render accordingly but it looks like the kit pictured above + 1u \| key and a windowed num lock key will be around $35. Windowed keys are a bit more expensive than normal keys. There won't be any more keys added to the kit. This is as cheap as we can get it down to. Still a buy for everyone?

[Vigrith]

Ok here is the deal.

I'll get zambu to update the render accordingly but it looks like the kit pictured above + 1u \| key and a windowed num lock key will be around $35. Windowed keys are a bit more expensive than normal keys. There won't be any more keys added to the kit. This is as cheap as we can get it down to. Still a buy for everyone?

$35 might get bit steep with shipping to Europe but it's worth it, I'm still in.

[Unforgivable]

Ok here is the deal.

I'll get zambu to update the render accordingly but it looks like the kit pictured above + 1u \| key and a windowed num lock key will be around $35. Windowed keys are a bit more expensive than normal keys. There won't be any more keys added to the kit. This is as cheap as we can get it down to. Still a buy for everyone?

Yes please! Instant buy. Especially through Originative. They have been on fire lately!

Also, hey Speed!! 

[bbrotha]

I'm in!

[Giorgio]

What about adding keys with bars? The set had scoops...

[lildragonbuns]

$35 for this set sounds very naice. I'm in

[polentA]

I'd totally support this little set.

[Giorgio]

When evaluating the cost of a set, the delivery cost should be taken into consideration.

I wonder how does this set compare to, say, bluegaloo, in terms of price plus delivery cost, plus number of keys.

[heedpantsnow]

Maybe depending on the price, the S&P500, and my mood at the moment it goes live.

[nathanrosspowell]

So I'm guessing these are in GMK's new colors? Is it impossible to use their old colors?

I like the idea, but I don't really want non-matching purple for my R1 HF set 

How many sets have gone out in HF R2 compared to HF R1?

[livingspeedbump]

This will be round 2 colors.

And no more keys but the ones mentioned earlier will be added. A lot of these keys (even the color ones) are just things that really just would have added unnecessary cost to the original single Hyperfuse kit.  I don't want to go around adding keys to Bunny's set that we haven't discussed. Some things mentioned that people want done differently are just part of the design of the original set, and I want to respect the original designers vision and execution of the set on all levels. So I am sorry that every key can't be added, but there is literally no keycap set that has every key everyone wants, there never will be, but I think the original Hyperfuse set was an exceptionally good all-in-one set already  .

This will be the final set + R1 1u \| key and a R1 1u Windowed Num Lock key. No further additions will be made. Thanks.

[soilheart]

Still a little disappointed that the requests for ISO Enter were ignored, as a kit like this basically would be the only chance to get a somewhat interesting matching ISO Enter (the normal kit only includes a standard cyan on gray enter...)

[heedpantsnow]

So I'm guessing these are in GMK's new colors? Is it impossible to use their old colors?

I like the idea, but I don't really want non-matching purple for my R1 HF set 

How many sets have gone out in HF R2 compared to HF R1?

I've missed something here, what colors are different, how different are they, and why?

[nathanrosspowell]

So I'm guessing these are in GMK's new colors? Is it impossible to use their old colors?

I like the idea, but I don't really want non-matching purple for my R1 HF set 

How many sets have gone out in HF R2 compared to HF R1?

I've missed something here, what colors are different, how different are they, and why?

GMK changed their default colors. Both the purple and cyan are different. HyperFuse R2 was made with the newer colors, so LSB is making a R2 compatibility kit.

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[Vigrith]

Still a little disappointed that the requests for ISO Enter were ignored, as a kit like this basically would be the only chance to get a somewhat interesting matching ISO Enter (the normal kit only includes a standard cyan on gray enter...)

Not to spark up any sort of indepth discussion and hijack the thread but I always wonder why more people don't just entirely switch out to ANSI at this point, especially when/if they are serious about the hobby - I made the switch from ISO PT to ANSI years ago but if I hadn't I'd definitely do it now, not only does it save you an insane amount of money in the long run it spares you the headache and nuisance of finding a set you really love and not being able to use it. Switching language in OS is so easy and most keyboards are fully reprogrammable nowadays, they're not even that expensive any more so I feel there's no real point in sticking to something that's clearly neglected (for good reason I might add, NORDE sold 80~ kits out of 3700 for Godspeed on MD a month ago for example). Unless you need to look at legends which I believe will not be the case with most people on here and other enthusiast forums.

That said, the final set for this little colour pack is awesome in my opinion, my main interest being the cyan arrows + windows keys which will breathe some more life into the board I will be putting Hyperfuse on - the remainder will also look cool in assorted GMK sets so I'm sure I'll find them a home!

[ideus]

For some ISO love. You are free to ignore it, some others do not.

[heedpantsnow]

So I'm guessing these are in GMK's new colors? Is it impossible to use their old colors?

I like the idea, but I don't really want non-matching purple for my R1 HF set 

How many sets have gone out in HF R2 compared to HF R1?

I've missed something here, what colors are different, how different are they, and why?

GMK changed their default colors. Both the purple and cyan are different. HyperFuse R2 was made with the newer colors, so LSB is making a R2 compatibility kit.

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Thx what a pita

[livingspeedbump]

I'm surely not ignoring ISO as a personal hit to anyone. It was actually included in my first render of this when I proposed it to the important parties needed to make this happen. As it goes with everyone set I'm trying to balance cost and keys, for everyone interested, and it was decided that it simply added a good chunk of cost and benefited a minority of people that would be joining more than likely. This is also likely one wasn't added to the original kit as well (though that is an assumption, I don't know that for fact).

I don't personally use ISO, but if there truly are that many limited keys out there maybe one of the UK group buy sites would be willing to run a drop of just enter keys of various colors, much like people have done with ESC keys in the past.

[livingspeedbump]

Does GMK imply made in Germany?

Correct!

And does joining the Groupbuy here mean, I (who lives in Germany) have to pay high shipping fee because the shipping will be sent from Germany to the US first before sorting and distribution?

Shipping really shouldnt be bad at all for a set of this size to anywhere else in the world.

[yowaffle]

unfortunately $35 is a bit too steep for me for the keys that I'm interested in :[ gl moving forward!

[TerryMathews]

This will be round 2 colors.

And no more keys but the ones mentioned earlier will be added. A lot of these keys (even the color ones) are just things that really just would have added unnecessary cost to the original single Hyperfuse kit.  I don't want to go around adding keys to Bunny's set that we haven't discussed. Some things mentioned that people want done differently are just part of the design of the original set, and I want to respect the original designers vision and execution of the set on all levels. So I am sorry that every key can't be added, but there is literally no keycap set that has every key everyone wants, there never will be, but I think the original Hyperfuse set was an exceptionally good all-in-one set already  .

This will be the final set + R1 1u \| key and a R1 1u Windowed Num Lock key. No further additions will be made. Thanks.

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To be clear: scroll lock and num lock are going to be cyan on gray?

[soilheart]

Not to spark up any sort of indepth discussion and hijack the thread but I always wonder why more people don't just entirely switch out to ANSI at this point, especially when/if they are serious about the hobby.

Two words: Pair programming.

I would love to change to ANSI, but then I would make mistakes all time sitting at a colleagues computers (and I would require at least two keyboards on my desk).

Then there's also the case of the missing key... US Intl doesn't really work with languages where accented letters are very common unfortunately...

I'm surely not ignoring ISO as a personal hit to anyone. It was actually included in my first render of this when I proposed it to the important parties needed to make this happen. As it goes with everyone set I'm trying to balance cost and keys, for everyone interested, and it was decided that it simply added a good chunk of cost and benefited a minority of people that would be joining more than likely. This is also likely one wasn't added to the original kit as well (though that is an assumption, I don't know that for fact).

I don't personally use ISO, but if there truly are that many limited keys out there maybe one of the UK group buy sites would be willing to run a drop of just enter keys of various colors, much like people have done with ESC keys in the past.

I didn't take it personally. I was just expressing my disappointment (and reasoning for probably skipping this buy).

[Giorgio]

Because I like ISO more than ANSI.
Because in ISO countries, laptops come only in ISO.
Because I need to use multiple ISO computers.
Because it's difficult to reprogram an ANSI keyboard in multiple OS (android, Linux, multiple windows).
I'm not a slave to my hobby which to many others may look made by crazy enthusiast comparing the qualities of plastic chairs for their garden.

Still a little disappointed that the requests for ISO Enter were ignored, as a kit like this basically would be the only chance to get a somewhat interesting matching ISO Enter (the normal kit only includes a standard cyan on gray enter...)

Not to spark up any sort of indepth discussion and hijack the thread but I always wonder why more people don't just entirely switch out to ANSI at this point, especially when/if they are serious about the hobby - I made the switch from ISO PT to ANSI years ago but if I hadn't I'd definitely do it now, not only does it save you an insane amount of money in the long run it spares you the headache and nuisance of finding a set you really love and not being able to use it. Switching language in OS is so easy and most keyboards are fully reprogrammable nowadays, they're not even that expensive any more so I feel there's no real point in sticking to something that's clearly neglected (for good reason I might add, NORDE sold 80~ kits out of 3700 for Godspeed on MD a month ago for example). Unless you need to look at legends which I believe will not be the case with most people on here and other enthusiast forums.

That said, the final set for this little colour pack is awesome in my opinion, my main interest being the cyan arrows + windows keys which will breathe some more life into the board I will be putting Hyperfuse on - the remainder will also look cool in assorted GMK sets so I'm sure I'll find them a home!

[Giorgio]

Because I like ISO more than ANSI.
Because in ISO countries, laptops come only in ISO.
Because I need to use multiple ISO computers.
Because it's difficult to reprogram an ANSI keyboard in multiple OS (android, Linux, multiple windows).
I'm not a slave to my hobby which to many others may look made by crazy enthusiast comparing the qualities of plastic chairs for their garden.

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Still a little disappointed that the requests for ISO Enter were ignored, as a kit like this basically would be the only chance to get a somewhat interesting matching ISO Enter (the normal kit only includes a standard cyan on gray enter...)

Not to spark up any sort of indepth discussion and hijack the thread but I always wonder why more people don't just entirely switch out to ANSI at this point, especially when/if they are serious about the hobby - I made the switch from ISO PT to ANSI years ago but if I hadn't I'd definitely do it now, not only does it save you an insane amount of money in the long run it spares you the headache and nuisance of finding a set you really love and not being able to use it. Switching language in OS is so easy and most keyboards are fully reprogrammable nowadays, they're not even that expensive any more so I feel there's no real point in sticking to something that's clearly neglected (for good reason I might add, NORDE sold 80~ kits out of 3700 for Godspeed on MD a month ago for example). Unless you need to look at legends which I believe will not be the case with most people on here and other enthusiast forums.

That said, the final set for this little colour pack is awesome in my opinion, my main interest being the cyan arrows + windows keys which will breathe some more life into the board I will be putting Hyperfuse on - the remainder will also look cool in assorted GMK sets so I'm sure I'll find them a home!

[BAS1C]

So in.

[livingspeedbump]

This will be round 2 colors.

And no more keys but the ones mentioned earlier will be added. A lot of these keys (even the color ones) are just things that really just would have added unnecessary cost to the original single Hyperfuse kit.  I don't want to go around adding keys to Bunny's set that we haven't discussed. Some things mentioned that people want done differently are just part of the design of the original set, and I want to respect the original designers vision and execution of the set on all levels. So I am sorry that every key can't be added, but there is literally no keycap set that has every key everyone wants, there never will be, but I think the original Hyperfuse set was an exceptionally good all-in-one set already  .

This will be the final set + R1 1u \| key and a R1 1u Windowed Num Lock key. No further additions will be made. Thanks.

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To be clear: scroll lock and num lock are going to be cyan on gray?

Correct, they will be stock colors. We all had a busy weekend, but I'll try to work on getting 100% correct and updated renders asap.

And again, I am sorry about no ISO enter keys, but the rest of the keys should work just fine for almost all layouts (in conjunction with the base kit of course), but I understand if that is a deal breaker for some.

[chuckdee]

Still a little disappointed that the requests for ISO Enter were ignored, as a kit like this basically would be the only chance to get a somewhat interesting matching ISO Enter (the normal kit only includes a standard cyan on gray enter...)

Not to spark up any sort of indepth discussion and hijack the thread but I always wonder why more people don't just entirely switch out to ANSI at this point, especially when/if they are serious about the hobby - I made the switch from ISO PT to ANSI years ago but if I hadn't I'd definitely do it now, not only does it save you an insane amount of money in the long run it spares you the headache and nuisance of finding a set you really love and not being able to use it. Switching language in OS is so easy and most keyboards are fully reprogrammable nowadays, they're not even that expensive any more so I feel there's no real point in sticking to something that's clearly neglected (for good reason I might add, NORDE sold 80~ kits out of 3700 for Godspeed on MD a month ago for example). Unless you need to look at legends which I believe will not be the case with most people on here and other enthusiast forums.

That said, the final set for this little colour pack is awesome in my opinion, my main interest being the cyan arrows + windows keys which will breathe some more life into the board I will be putting Hyperfuse on - the remainder will also look cool in assorted GMK sets so I'm sure I'll find them a home!

You're brave   The emotions are highest when the stakes are small.

[ideus]

Still a little disappointed that the requests for ISO Enter were ignored, as a kit like this basically would be the only chance to get a somewhat interesting matching ISO Enter (the normal kit only includes a standard cyan on gray enter...)

Not to spark up any sort of indepth discussion and hijack the thread but I always wonder why more people don't just entirely switch out to ANSI at this point, especially when/if they are serious about the hobby - I made the switch from ISO PT to ANSI years ago but if I hadn't I'd definitely do it now, not only does it save you an insane amount of money in the long run it spares you the headache and nuisance of finding a set you really love and not being able to use it. Switching language in OS is so easy and most keyboards are fully reprogrammable nowadays, they're not even that expensive any more so I feel there's no real point in sticking to something that's clearly neglected (for good reason I might add, NORDE sold 80~ kits out of 3700 for Godspeed on MD a month ago for example). Unless you need to look at legends which I believe will not be the case with most people on here and other enthusiast forums.

That said, the final set for this little colour pack is awesome in my opinion, my main interest being the cyan arrows + windows keys which will breathe some more life into the board I will be putting Hyperfuse on - the remainder will also look cool in assorted GMK sets so I'm sure I'll find them a home!

You're brave   The emotions are highest when the stakes are small.

Repeating that ISO users do not make up for minimum order quantities will not help to make our hobby more inclusive. It will just preserve the ANSI-only oriented status quo. Vocalizing group thinking on minorities is not brave; instead, it is popular within majorities. I use an ANSI layout featured with an ISO Enter, as a freedom statement, an small sign of individualism. I can use what the manufacturers have decided that does not worth making business wise, but that I can have on my own.

[chuckdee]

Still a little disappointed that the requests for ISO Enter were ignored, as a kit like this basically would be the only chance to get a somewhat interesting matching ISO Enter (the normal kit only includes a standard cyan on gray enter...)

Not to spark up any sort of indepth discussion and hijack the thread but I always wonder why more people don't just entirely switch out to ANSI at this point, especially when/if they are serious about the hobby - I made the switch from ISO PT to ANSI years ago but if I hadn't I'd definitely do it now, not only does it save you an insane amount of money in the long run it spares you the headache and nuisance of finding a set you really love and not being able to use it. Switching language in OS is so easy and most keyboards are fully reprogrammable nowadays, they're not even that expensive any more so I feel there's no real point in sticking to something that's clearly neglected (for good reason I might add, NORDE sold 80~ kits out of 3700 for Godspeed on MD a month ago for example). Unless you need to look at legends which I believe will not be the case with most people on here and other enthusiast forums.

That said, the final set for this little colour pack is awesome in my opinion, my main interest being the cyan arrows + windows keys which will breathe some more life into the board I will be putting Hyperfuse on - the remainder will also look cool in assorted GMK sets so I'm sure I'll find them a home!

You're brave   The emotions are highest when the stakes are small.

Repeating that ISO users do not make up for minimum order quantities will not help to make our hobby more inclusive. It will just preserve the ANSI-only oriented status quo. Vocalizing group thinking on minorities is not brave; instead, it is popular within majorities. I use an ANSI layout featured with an ISO Enter, as a freedom statement, an small sign of individualism. I can use what the manufacturers have decided that does not worth making business wise, but that I can have on my own.

It's brave of him to bring it up.  It is no slight against you or other ISO users.   Its just that the reasons are stated with much fervor,  and no real substance of argument against the reasons behind your true opposition.   When the real reasons that you don't address are neither ideological nor exclusionary nor based upon anything for nor against the standard,  but rather economical.   Overcome that, without increasing to bottom line for those that don't want it, and I'm sure no one would care.  And that's the simple truth of where you find yourself,  however there tends to be much fury and noise whenever people point out the simple unavoidable truth.

[pomk]

Still a little disappointed that the requests for ISO Enter were ignored, as a kit like this basically would be the only chance to get a somewhat interesting matching ISO Enter (the normal kit only includes a standard cyan on gray enter...)

Not to spark up any sort of indepth discussion and hijack the thread but I always wonder why more people don't just entirely switch out to ANSI at this point, especially when/if they are serious about the hobby - I made the switch from ISO PT to ANSI years ago but if I hadn't I'd definitely do it now, not only does it save you an insane amount of money in the long run it spares you the headache and nuisance of finding a set you really love and not being able to use it. Switching language in OS is so easy and most keyboards are fully reprogrammable nowadays, they're not even that expensive any more so I feel there's no real point in sticking to something that's clearly neglected (for good reason I might add, NORDE sold 80~ kits out of 3700 for Godspeed on MD a month ago for example). Unless you need to look at legends which I believe will not be the case with most people on here and other enthusiast forums.

That said, the final set for this little colour pack is awesome in my opinion, my main interest being the cyan arrows + windows keys which will breathe some more life into the board I will be putting Hyperfuse on - the remainder will also look cool in assorted GMK sets so I'm sure I'll find them a home!

You're brave   The emotions are highest when the stakes are small.

Repeating that ISO users do not make up for minimum order quantities will not help to make our hobby more inclusive. It will just preserve the ANSI-only oriented status quo. Vocalizing group thinking on minorities is not brave; instead, it is popular within majorities. I use an ANSI layout featured with an ISO Enter, as a freedom statement, an small sign of individualism. I can use what the manufacturers have decided that does not worth making business wise, but that I can have on my own.

It's brave of him to bring it up.  It is no slight against you or other ISO users.   Its just that the reasons are stated with much fervor,  and no real substance of argument against the reasons behind your true opposition.   When the real reasons that you don't address are neither ideological nor exclusionary nor based upon anything for nor against the standard,  but rather economical.   Overcome that, without increasing to bottom line for those that don't want it, and I'm sure no one would care.  And that's the simple truth of where you find yourself,  however there tends to be much fury and noise whenever people point out the simple unavoidable truth.

Seeing how keycaps are mostly about aestethics, and ISO being prettier than ANSI, I dont see a reason for not including ISO as the main choice in all keysets. Also seeing how international standards are usually better than american ones, I'd argue that ISO is the way forward for us all. For example the International System of Units is _clearly_ superior to the US customary units.

Don't take the above text too seriously.  )