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Offline InSanCen

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a few US finds while I was cruising the Bay of E
« on: Mon, 07 September 2009, 17:07:45 »
« Last Edit: Mon, 07 September 2009, 18:02:26 by InSanCen »
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Currently Using :- IBM M13 1996, Black :
Currently Own :- 1391406 1989 & 1990 : AT Model F 1985 : Boscom 122 (Black) : G80-3000 : G80-1800 (x2) : Wang 724 : G81-8000LPBGB (Card Reader, MY) : Unitek : AT102W : TVS Gold :
Project\'s :- Wang 724 Pink-->White Clicky : USB Model M : IBM LPFK :
Pointing stuff :- Logitech MX-518 : I-One Lynx R-15 Trackball : M13 Nipple : Microsoft Basic Optical\'s :

Offline maxlugar

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« Reply #1 on: Mon, 07 September 2009, 17:19:21 »
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AT Model F
http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-PC-Vintage-AT-Keyboard-Model-F-Clicky-USA-mfg-VGC_W0QQitemZ130328403275QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1e582d9d4b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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The AT Model F is an 83-key IBM PC/XT keyboard, not to be confused with the 84-key PC AT keyboard.  Even though they both have 5 pin "AT" style connectors, the 83-key Model F will not work with a modern computer without an XT to AT converter which costs about $100, if you can still find one.
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Offline InSanCen

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« Reply #2 on: Mon, 07 September 2009, 18:02:11 »
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Quote from: InSanCen;115586


AT Model F
http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-PC-Vintage-AT-Keyboard-Model-F-Clicky-USA-mfg-VGC_W0QQitemZ130328403275QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1e582d9d4b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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The AT Model F is an 83-key IBM PC/XT keyboard, not to be confused with the 84-key PC AT keyboard.  Even though they both have 5 pin "AT" style connectors, the 83-key Model F will not work with a modern computer without an XT to AT converter which costs about $100, if you can still find one.


Sorry, blonde moment. Amended
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Currently Using :- IBM M13 1996, Black :
Currently Own :- 1391406 1989 & 1990 : AT Model F 1985 : Boscom 122 (Black) : G80-3000 : G80-1800 (x2) : Wang 724 : G81-8000LPBGB (Card Reader, MY) : Unitek : AT102W : TVS Gold :
Project\'s :- Wang 724 Pink-->White Clicky : USB Model M : IBM LPFK :
Pointing stuff :- Logitech MX-518 : I-One Lynx R-15 Trackball : M13 Nipple : Microsoft Basic Optical\'s :

Offline timw4mail

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a few US finds while I was cruising the Bay of E
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 07 September 2009, 18:55:02 »
Lol, "Very Rare" Dell AT101W for $65 Buy it now...

Guess I know who not to buy keyboards from...
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Clicky iOne Scorpius M10, OCN-branded Ducky DK-9008-C, Blackmore Nocturna, Redragon Kumara K552-1, Qtronix Scorpius Keypad, Chicony KB-5181(Monterey)
Tactile Apple AEKII (Cream damped ALPS), Filco FKBN91M/JB (Japanese Tenkeyless), Cherry G84-5200, Cherry G84-4100LPAUS, Datalux Spacesaver(Cherry ML), Redragon Devarajas K556 RGB, Newmen GM711, Poker II (Cherry MX Clear), Logitech G910 Orion Spark, Logitech K840
Linear Lenovo Y (Gateron Red), Aluminum kiosk keyboard (Cherry MX Black)

Offline maxlugar

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« Reply #4 on: Mon, 07 September 2009, 19:28:18 »
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Kind of sly wording on the AT Model F description isn't it?

So if I understand this right if it has AT on the silver logo on the top left it is a PC AT keyboard??  What's the 84th key?


Very sneaky wording indeed.

The 84th key is the highly used "Sys Request" key.
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Offline rdjack21

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« Reply #5 on: Mon, 07 September 2009, 21:21:06 »
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Keytronic Bundle W/ Mouse $35.22 BIN, Badly Listed
I assume it's cherries in here (switch's rated for 30million+)
http://cgi.ebay.com/KEYTRONICS-E03601U1M-USB-Cable-Keybaord-and-Mouse_W0QQitemZ260457998152QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_Mice_Trackballs?hash=item3ca481a748&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116


First off that board is $22.99 at Amazon and I don't think Keytronic ever made a mechanical keyboard. That is a rubber dome board and not even one of their better ones.
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Keyboards
Topre Capacitive: Realforce 87U, Realforce 86U, HHKB Pro 2, Topre MD01B0, Topre HE0100, Sun Short Type, OEM NEO CS (x2), NISSHO Electronics KB106DE
Buckling Spring: IBM Model M Space Saver (1291472), Unicomp Customizer x 2
Cherry Brown: Filco FKBN87M/EB, Compaq MX11800
Black Alps: ABS M1
Not so great boards Rare Spring over dome OKI, Sun rack keyboard
Trackballs - Trackman Wheel (3), Trackman marble (2)
Keyboards I still want to get - Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro 2 the White version, Realforce 23U number pad in black and maybe white, μTRON ergo board with Topre switches.
Previously owned - [size=0]SiiG MiniTouch (White Alps), Scorpius M10 (Blue Cherry), IBM Model M13[/size]

Offline InSanCen

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« Reply #6 on: Tue, 08 September 2009, 16:03:59 »
I had never heard of Keytronic before.

I also wasn't aware that Rubber Domes could last that long, hence me thinking it was cherries (IIRC they are rated at 30 million too).
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Currently Own :- 1391406 1989 & 1990 : AT Model F 1985 : Boscom 122 (Black) : G80-3000 : G80-1800 (x2) : Wang 724 : G81-8000LPBGB (Card Reader, MY) : Unitek : AT102W : TVS Gold :
Project\'s :- Wang 724 Pink-->White Clicky : USB Model M : IBM LPFK :
Pointing stuff :- Logitech MX-518 : I-One Lynx R-15 Trackball : M13 Nipple : Microsoft Basic Optical\'s :

Offline ch_123

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« Reply #7 on: Tue, 08 September 2009, 16:20:26 »
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The 84th key is the highly used "Sys Request" key.

Having a dedicated Sys Req key is quite useful for Linux when it crashes. Oh wait...
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Offline ch_123

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« Reply #8 on: Tue, 08 September 2009, 16:29:48 »
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First off that board is $22.99 at Amazon and I don't think Keytronic ever made a mechanical keyboard. That is a rubber dome board and not even one of their better ones.


They used to make capacitive boards, but that was waaay back. And they werent cool capactive boards - they were crappy ones that probably felt worse than rubber domes.
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Offline rdjack21

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« Reply #9 on: Tue, 08 September 2009, 16:30:02 »
Keytronic offers a line of rubber dome boards with a lifetime warranty on them. They make one of the better rubber dome boards on the market. If they would just spend a little money on the case and keys they would have a pretty darn good board. As it is they are OK. In my opinion the main problem with rubber dome boards is not the rubber dome but that you have to bottom them out to make a key register. With a good rubber dome design you can make them have better tactile feed back than a mechanical board but not very many companies will spend the RD money to do that. At one point Keytronic made a capacitive switch.
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Keyboards
Topre Capacitive: Realforce 87U, Realforce 86U, HHKB Pro 2, Topre MD01B0, Topre HE0100, Sun Short Type, OEM NEO CS (x2), NISSHO Electronics KB106DE
Buckling Spring: IBM Model M Space Saver (1291472), Unicomp Customizer x 2
Cherry Brown: Filco FKBN87M/EB, Compaq MX11800
Black Alps: ABS M1
Not so great boards Rare Spring over dome OKI, Sun rack keyboard
Trackballs - Trackman Wheel (3), Trackman marble (2)
Keyboards I still want to get - Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro 2 the White version, Realforce 23U number pad in black and maybe white, μTRON ergo board with Topre switches.
Previously owned - [size=0]SiiG MiniTouch (White Alps), Scorpius M10 (Blue Cherry), IBM Model M13[/size]
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