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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #100 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 17:30:32 »
The joker is back.  1999.99.
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #101 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 18:11:37 »
That's the same jackass that pushed the bid up to 666.66 earlier, with the same method.  Even the current top bidder has a retraction in the past six months.  Have never seen more bidders with retractions in one auction or so many outrageous bids.
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #102 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 18:28:04 »
That's the same jackass that pushed the bid up to 666.66 earlier, with the same method.  Even the current top bidder has a retraction in the past six months.  Have never seen more bidders with retractions in one auction or so many outrageous bids.

Just to think who is really getting hurt here: The poor little keyboard.  It will be recovering from this trauma for a long time.
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #103 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 18:37:09 »
Yes, I'm sure it'll be heartbroken.

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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #104 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 19:23:22 »
I didn't even know that it was possible to retract a bid.
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #105 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 19:48:12 »
I didn't even know that it was possible to retract a bid.


I didn't either. :(
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #106 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 19:54:21 »
Anyone want to call the final price?  :p
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #107 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:00:53 »
I… didn't expect that.

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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #108 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:01:30 »
well that was anticlimatic

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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #109 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:01:58 »
Bets on whether the top bidders will pull out by not paying after rethinking the value?
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #110 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:07:03 »
"Yeah, sorry, I was out of the house, my dog must have bid on that."
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #111 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:08:00 »
Anyone want to call the final price?  :p

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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #112 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:08:48 »
Aww... I wanted it to go to $15,000.
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #113 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:08:53 »
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #114 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:11:57 »
With the high bids being exposed by the outrageously high retracted bids it wouldn't shock me if the top bidder walked away.

The same two green bidders did most of the push up of the price, and anyone watching closely would have known what to bid to push but not surpass the top bid.

It wasn't gambling this time, just straight forward *******ry.
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #115 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:17:44 »
With the high bids being exposed by the outrageously high retracted bids it wouldn't shock me if the top bidder walked away.

The same two green bidders did most of the push up of the price, and anyone watching closely would have known what to bid to push but not surpass the top bid.

It wasn't gambling this time, just straight forward *******ry.

I'm not sure I follow that logic here.  The top bidder still bid up to or even above the amount it is at now.  It was within that person's allocated maximum bid value.  Even with potential fake bids to get the price up.
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #116 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:33:04 »
Seems about right, less than twice what a decidedly inferior specimen went for last week.
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #117 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:35:10 »
Ssk 2014 overhyped over priced keyboard.
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #118 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:40:50 »
With the high bids being exposed by the outrageously high retracted bids it wouldn't shock me if the top bidder walked away.

The same two green bidders did most of the push up of the price, and anyone watching closely would have known what to bid to push but not surpass the top bid.

It wasn't gambling this time, just straight forward *******ry.

I'm not sure I follow that logic here.  The top bidder still bid up to or even above the amount it is at now.  It was within that person's allocated maximum bid value.  Even with potential fake bids to get the price up.

Yes, in the end, he's still paying what he was willing to pay.

But he's paying more than what he would have paid if there were none of this nonsense with the over-the-top bidding and retractions.

There's some obviously fake bids in there using information gained from the high retracted bids.  Whether they were working in conjunction with the seller or just being *******s will remain a mystery.
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #119 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 21:46:26 »
The joker is back.  1999.99.

And it stayed there, interesting.

Well it's a great keyboard! I hope whoever got it enjoys it!

I can't wait for 3 years from now when Hall effect KBs hit these prices.

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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #120 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 23:39:38 »
The joker is back.  1999.99.

And it stayed there, interesting.

Well it's a great keyboard! I hope whoever got it enjoys it!

I can't wait for 3 years from now when Hall effect KBs hit these prices.

Yeah, that ain't going to happen :P

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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #121 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 18:50:00 »
But he's paying more than what he would have paid if there were none of this nonsense with the over-the-top bidding and retractions.

There's some obviously fake bids in there using information gained from the high retracted bids.  Whether they were working in conjunction with the seller or just being *******s will remain a mystery.


Hard to believe so many people bid so early. You need to wait until the last 10-30 seconds to place your bid, a single maximum value that you would be willing to pay (the closer to the end the better, but don't let a slow machine or problem with the bid cause you to miss it). Only exception is if there is a buy it now that's priced higher then you are willing to pay, in which case place minimum bid to remove it and then wait.

Any earlier bids is like playing cards and keeping yours face up on the table in front of you for everyone to see.
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #122 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 19:08:24 »

You need to wait until the last 10-30 seconds to place your bid, a single maximum value that you would be willing to pay (the closer to the end the better, but don't let a slow machine or problem with the bid cause you to miss it). Only exception is if there is a buy it now that's priced higher then you are willing to pay, in which case place minimum bid to remove it and then wait.

Any earlier bids is like playing cards and keeping yours face up on the table in front of you for everyone to see.

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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #123 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 19:11:04 »
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #124 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 22:07:23 »
I will say more on the matter once this is over with. Messy.
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #125 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 22:31:05 »

I will say more on the matter once this is over with. Messy.

I thought it was over? Is there some drama going on now, post-sale? Who woulda guessed that...
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #126 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 00:38:26 »

I will say more on the matter once this is over with. Messy.

I thought it was over? Is there some drama going on now, post-sale? Who woulda guessed that...

Shill bidding is violating the terms of a bid retraction. Once that is looked at, the transaction can continue.
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #127 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:05:32 »

I will say more on the matter once this is over with. Messy.

I thought it was over? Is there some drama going on now, post-sale? Who woulda guessed that...

Shill bidding is violating the terms of a bid retraction. Once that is looked at, the transaction can continue.

You do know when someone retracts a bid, it doesn't go to the last max bid right?  Only to the previous current bid?  I'd be more worried about the 1 reps blasting the price to 1600.  But then again, I wouldn't max bid a price I wasn't willing to pay.

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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #128 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:07:58 »
You do know when someone retracts a bid, it doesn't go to the last max bid right?  Only to the previous current bid?  I'd be more worried about the 1 reps blasting the price to 1600.  But then again, I wouldn't max bid a price I wasn't willing to pay.

Right, that was exactly my point here earlier.  Whoever won this keyboard was willing the pay the amount that it ended up costing.  Despite how the price got there, it was within the winner's allocated budget.
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #129 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:15:36 »
You do know when someone retracts a bid, it doesn't go to the last max bid right?  Only to the previous current bid?  I'd be more worried about the 1 reps blasting the price to 1600.  But then again, I wouldn't max bid a price I wasn't willing to pay.

Right, that was exactly my point here earlier.  Whoever won this keyboard was willing the pay the amount that it ended up costing.  Despite how the price got there, it was within the winner's allocated budget.

Except that it appears the winner was EverythingIBM and he's now pissed about having to pay $2K for it.
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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #130 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:18:02 »
You do know when someone retracts a bid, it doesn't go to the last max bid right?  Only to the previous current bid?  I'd be more worried about the 1 reps blasting the price to 1600.  But then again, I wouldn't max bid a price I wasn't willing to pay.

Right, that was exactly my point here earlier.  Whoever won this keyboard was willing the pay the amount that it ended up costing.  Despite how the price got there, it was within the winner's allocated budget.

Except that it appears the winner was EverythingIBM and he's now pissed about having to pay $2K for it.

I understand where he's coming from. $2K might have been within his budget for it, but he could be paying significantly less if not for the fake bids. On one hand, yay, he won! On the other, ****, he's paying more than it would've sold for without the fake bids.

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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #131 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:25:39 »
You do know when someone retracts a bid, it doesn't go to the last max bid right?  Only to the previous current bid?  I'd be more worried about the 1 reps blasting the price to 1600.  But then again, I wouldn't max bid a price I wasn't willing to pay.

Right, that was exactly my point here earlier.  Whoever won this keyboard was willing the pay the amount that it ended up costing.  Despite how the price got there, it was within the winner's allocated budget.

Except that it appears the winner was EverythingIBM and he's now pissed about having to pay $2K for it.

I understand where he's coming from. $2K might have been within his budget for it, but he could be paying significantly less if not for the fake bids. On one hand, yay, he won! On the other, ****, he's paying more than it would've sold for without the fake bids.

Would it have sold for less, though?  There last two high bids look more legit than most of the rest, it's still entirely possible that it would have hit $2000 no matter what the guy with 1 feedback did.

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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #132 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:28:29 »
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You do know when someone retracts a bid, it doesn't go to the last max bid right?  Only to the previous current bid?  I'd be more worried about the 1 reps blasting the price to 1600.  But then again, I wouldn't max bid a price I wasn't willing to pay.

Right, that was exactly my point here earlier.  Whoever won this keyboard was willing the pay the amount that it ended up costing.  Despite how the price got there, it was within the winner's allocated budget.

Except that it appears the winner was EverythingIBM and he's now pissed about having to pay $2K for it.

I understand where he's coming from. $2K might have been within his budget for it, but he could be paying significantly less if not for the fake bids. On one hand, yay, he won! On the other, ****, he's paying more than it would've sold for without the fake bids.
Would it have sold for less, though?  There last two high bids look more legit than most of the rest, it's still entirely possible that it would have hit $2000 no matter what the guy with 1 feedback did.

I suppose that's why it's "messy". All this is really speculation.

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Re: Another IBM SSK
« Reply #133 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 13:49:29 »
I hope EverthingIBM will give us the full story when all is said and done.