Massdrop: Realforce 104UB-DK

[avtar]

Yeah and with customs even less so :/

[Ahlitah]

Yeah and with customs even less so :/

Yeah... I can still back out....

but alas...prob won't.

I knew I should of stayed away from this forum for longer!

[intelli78]

Looks like there's 1 left...

[missalaire]

Looks like there's 1 left...

Not anymore.

[dustinhxc]

Dangit shouldve got one. I love those caps.

[Michael]

I am selling my spot at cost in this buy if anyone is interested http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54455.0

[hashbaz]

Just received mine!

[remdell]

Just received mine!

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How do you like it? Also, how do you like your trackball? It looks awesome and the palm wrest looks comfy, but reaching for the scroll wheel and/or middle button while the palm is rested seems weird.   I just ask because Massdrop is selling a similar model: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/cst-lasertrac-trackball

[hashbaz]

How do you like it? Also, how do you like your trackball? It looks awesome and the palm wrest looks comfy, but reaching for the scroll wheel and/or middle button while the palm is rested seems weird.   I just ask because Massdrop is selling a similar model: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/cst-lasertrac-trackball

Feels like a Realforce, but with a sexier-than-standard colorscheme.  I like it.

I try to use both the trackball and mouse (not visible in my pic) to help alleviate stress symptoms in my right hand.  I use the trackball where I can for simple movements but still need the mouse for precision stuff.  My left hand is getting more and more adept over time.

Funny that you mentioned resting my palms -- I actively try to avoid that now while typing and mousing.  This particular ergo mistake hit me hard recently and resulted in intense pain in my right wrist.  I was worried that I had seriously injured myself for several days.  Eventually I figured out that I had been planting my palms while reaching for keys which of course produces awkward wrist angles.    Now I plant my elbows on my armrests, hover my hands over the keyboard, and use forearm motion instead of bending my wrists.  I only put my palms on the rest when I'm not typing.  I also use a tiling window manager called i3 which significantly reduces my dependence on mouse/trackball for moving around between windows.  Wrists feel much better.

[remdell]

How do you like it? Also, how do you like your trackball? It looks awesome and the palm wrest looks comfy, but reaching for the scroll wheel and/or middle button while the palm is rested seems weird.   I just ask because Massdrop is selling a similar model: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/cst-lasertrac-trackball

Feels like a Realforce, but with a sexier-than-standard colorscheme.  I like it.

I try to use both the trackball and mouse (not visible in my pic) to help alleviate stress symptoms in my right hand.  I use the trackball where I can for simple movements but still need the mouse for precision stuff.  My left hand is getting more and more adept over time.

Funny that you mentioned resting my palms -- I actively try to avoid that now while typing and mousing.  This particular ergo mistake hit me hard recently and resulted in intense pain in my right wrist.  I was worried that I had seriously injured myself for several days.  Eventually I figured out that I had been planting my palms while reaching for keys which of course produces awkward wrist angles.    Now I plant my elbows on my armrests, hover my hands over the keyboard, and use forearm motion instead of bending my wrists.  I only put my palms on the rest when I'm not typing.  I also use a tiling window manager called i3 which significantly reduces my dependence on mouse/trackball for moving around between windows.  Wrists feel much better.

Oh wow.  I should probably start investing in a good chair then.   It's too short for my desk.  My desk is quite tall (about 3') because it's an executive desk made to have client on the other end.  I've been able to avoid carpal tunnel by sliding and sometimes lifting my arms across the desk as I type or mouse.  However, over time this will probably cause problems for my shoulders, elbows, and/or forearms in the future.  I just thought that getting a trackball could reduce future strain on my right arm because I use it for daily for typing, writing, drawing, and gaming.

[Pacifist]

Just received mine!

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Sweet :thumb:

Will a source other than md have these?

[SpAmRaY]

Just received mine!

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Sweet :thumb:

Will a source other than md have these?

You can buy them on eBay.

[Pacifist]

Just received mine!

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Sweet :thumb:

Will a source other than md have these?

You can buy them on eBay.

 :eek: $360

[SpAmRaY]

Just received mine!

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Sweet :thumb:

Will a source other than md have these?

You can buy them on eBay.

 :eek: $360

I never said they were cheap. :P

[TheBinary]

If anyone get's their 104UB-DK & decides that is is not for them please PM me! This is the ideal keyboard for me (I own one and need a second for work) - I look forward to hopefully hearing from someone, but I also wish you all the best with your new boards! 

[Grr8]

If anyone get's their 104UB-DK & decides that is is not for them please PM me! This is the ideal keyboard for me (I own one and need a second for work) - I look forward to hopefully hearing from someone, but I also wish you all the best with your new boards! 

How many clacks will you pay for it? <evil laugh>

(sorry to tease, I'm not selling mine, though I am sure a few people here bought an extra...)

[mljs54]

I'd be interested in picking one up as well as a work keyboard if anyone has one for sale. 

Can't believe I missed this.

[SpAmRaY]

Is anyone else noticing scuff marks on the case?

[hashbaz]

Mine looks pristine.

[Ahlitah]

Mine looks pristine.

Just got it and mine has no nasty scuffs on it.

What was nasty was the insane customs charges of $39 for tax and handling fee.

[SpAmRaY]

You can see pics of mine here

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xnvnotoudto1kf3/flxf8VM9-3

I guess it really depends on the lighting but I know they are there and the only one that really bugs me is the one under the right alt key.

[hashbaz]

After looking at ray's pics, I can see that mine has subtle marks in the same spots. :-/

[Ahlitah]

Yep, it seems I have a small mark on mine under the ALT key as well, after looking at those pics. it wasn't noticeable till I saw it pointed out.

After looking more closely, I seem to have the others too.

Sigh... thanks for pointing them out, I was happy not noticing them at all!

[IPT]

wonder if these were somehow reconditioned if they have the same marks at the same places
especially that part where the cases looks like a screwdriver was used to pop it open

[SpAmRaY]

wonder if these were somehow reconditioned if they have the same marks at the same places
especially that part where the cases looks like a screwdriver was used to pop it open

That was my first thought. Massdrop said they would send another if I sent this one back but since others are getting similar condition boards I decided to keep it, they offered a small credit on a future drop for the trouble.

Does anyone have or can you recommend a good keyboard roof for this keyboard? My ducky boards have a plastic cover that they ship with I use it every night as a dust cover. My solution for this board so far is to put it back in the box every day, which sucks because I have to unplug it from the PC and the way my work PC is setup that is just a headache.

[IPT]

wonder if these were somehow reconditioned if they have the same marks at the same places
especially that part where the cases looks like a screwdriver was used to pop it open

That was my first thought. Massdrop said they would send another if I sent this one back but since others are getting similar condition boards I decided to keep it, they offered a small credit on a future drop for the trouble.

Does anyone have or can you recommend a good keyboard roof for this keyboard? My ducky boards have a plastic cover that they ship with I use it every night as a dust cover. My solution for this board so far is to put it back in the box every day, which sucks because I have to unplug it from the PC and the way my work PC is setup that is just a headache.

Maybe try the EK roof that sits on top of the keyboard?
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,roofs&pid=rfek
Ir would only cover the keys though.
**EDIT**
Looks like the EK ones are similar to what used to be sold by RF for their keyboards?

Unless the RF model number is just a lie lol.
I dunno, i googled and found an old thread that Tsangan was looking for the roof back in 2011.
I know my Filco roof wouldn't fit because the RF cases are an inch or so too wide

[Michael]

Mine has pretty much the same exact marks as Ray. I am thinking this is some defect in the production line. Perhaps the machines molding the cases have defects, or something.

[SpAmRaY]

I'm also curious about the space bar, the models that are advertised on ebay seem to have a spacebar with a darker gray that matches the mods where this board the space bar is closer to the alpha color.

[Michael]

It may be that these are refurbs or something. I dunno.

[IPT]

the fact that the same pry mark on the same part of the case makes me think that someone opened these up to do some work or something.

[Michael]

They don't look like pry marks. They look more like a problem along the assembly line. As if they were scraped along something on their way through. Since they are in the exact pattern and areas on both mine and Rays, it would make the most sense.

[IPT]

They don't look like pry marks. They look more like a problem along the assembly line. As if they were scraped along something on their way through. Since they are in the exact pattern and areas on both mine and Rays, it would make the most sense.

right, didn't think of it that way
maybe rejects of QC that got sold to massdrop at a discount?

[dante]

You can see pics of mine here

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xnvnotoudto1kf3/flxf8VM9-3

I guess it really depends on the lighting but I know they are there and the only one that really bugs me is the one under the right alt key.

Wow; that looks like Unicomp made it.

[Michael]

Mine looks pristine.

No it doesn't, good sir. I can see the exact same marks on your case.

[Flyersfan1]

Mine has the exact same marks mentioned, probably wouldn't have noticed had I not read this thread. 

[hashbaz]

No it doesn't, good sir. I can see the exact same marks on your case.

After looking at ray's pics, I can see that mine has subtle marks in the same spots. :-/

[Michael]

No it doesn't, good sir. I can see the exact same marks on your case.

After looking at ray's pics, I can see that mine has subtle marks in the same spots. :-/

 

Yeah, I am thinking these are factory defects - hence the pricepoint they were able to get. Seems logical.

[hashbaz]

Seems frustrating, especially if Massdrop knew about it.

[riotonthebay]

Seems frustrating, especially if Massdrop knew about it.

Massdrop told Ray they would replace his if he wanted. Sounds like they might not have known.

[SpAmRaY]

Seems frustrating, especially if Massdrop knew about it.

Massdrop told Ray they would replace his if he wanted. Sounds like they might not have known.

BUT seeing as how so many seem to have the same issue I would bet the replacement would have to.

[dorkvader]

Just get a digilog case or whatever and call it a day.

[SpAmRaY]

Just get a digilog case or whatever and call it a day.

They make those for full size boards??

[Michael]

Just get a digilog case or whatever and call it a day.

They don't make full-sized cases. Honestly, I don't mind it being some defect if that was explained up front. But the fact that it wasn't, and we all thought this was a great deal
from the regular price makes it disappointing.

[Ahlitah]

Has anyone else contacted Massdrop about this?

[Flyersfan1]

Has anyone else contacted Massdrop about this?

I was going to, but I don't really know what good it would do at this point.  I'm pretty disappointed too, obviously doesn't effect the functionality of the board but as Bro Caps mentioned, I feel a little misled.

[Ahlitah]

Has anyone else contacted Massdrop about this?

I was going to, but I don't really know what good it would do at this point.  I'm pretty disappointed too, obviously doesn't effect the functionality of the board but as Bro Caps mentioned, I feel a little misled.

Yeah I haven't either. I probably wouldn't of noticed them at all, if it wasn't pointed out to me.

Not sure if I should, because of that fact.

[tbc]

contact them and get a partial refund/massdrop credit.

even if you don't use the money yourself, you can always gift it away.

[Amble]

I didn't see the recent comments in this thread until now, so I thought I should chime in.  My board was purchased on ebay, so the source is probably different... or not, I don't know.  However, it doesn't really matter.  My case has the same marks as well.  Although, I have seen the same marks on all older 104UBs that had a decent enough pic to clearly show them.  When I got my board back in October I too was curious about them.  All in all, it just seems to be a "defect" in the mold.  In my opinion, it is hardly noticable and nothing worth contacting Massdrop about because all black shelled 104s have them.

Edit:  peter79's pics are a great example.

[SpAmRaY]

I didn't see the recent comments in this thread until now, so I thought I should chime in.  My board was purchased on ebay, so the source is probably different... or not, I don't know.  However, it doesn't really matter.  My case has the same marks as well.  Although, I have seen the same marks on all older 104UBs that had a decent enough pic to clearly show them.  When I got my board back in October I too was curious about them.  All in all, it just seems to be a "defect" in the mold.  In my opinion, it is hardly noticable and nothing worth contacting Massdrop about because all black shelled 104s have them.

Edit:  peter79's pics are a great example.

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^^ Thank you for sharing! While definitely an oddity it is clear that this is a common problem on these boards.

[MJ45]

Those spots are also visible on the Massdrop pics if you zoom in https://www.massdrop.com/buy/topre-realforce-104ub On the RF TKL's they have a mark above the right arrow key. I think it may be due to the plastic flow during the moulding process possibly?