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Offline Snotburger

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[IC] Regarding GMK Orochi
« on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 03:01:37 »
INTEREST CHECK FORM





Introducing: GMK Orochi, a keycap set based on the Japanese legend of an eight-headed, eight-tailed serpent dragon.





A woodblock print by 月岡 芳年 was used as inspiration. It depicts Yamata-no-Orochi, the dragon, being slain by the banished god Susano-o.






Colours





GMK WS1: Alphas, Accent Legends, Mods Legends
GMK RO1: Accent
Pantone 7449 C: Mods, Alpha Legends





Kits

Keep in mind that these kits are subject to change, depending on feedback.

Base Kit



Alternate Alphas Kit



Novelties Kit



40% Kit



Spacebars Kit





Renders

RAMA U80





Nemui by Bachoo





Maja by Vulcan









Vendors

OCE: SwitchKeys
CA: DESK[H]ERO
SEA: iLumbkb
UK: proto[Typist]
KO: Swagkeys
US: TBD
EU: TBD





To-do list

- Get community feedback, modify kits accordingly

- Revamp Novelties

- Decide other products (deskmats, RAMA, cable?)

- Establish vendors :thumb:

- Get pricing

- Make it to GB ;D





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INTEREST CHECK FORM

TY to: Stick for being cool :thumb:, and the guys over at Keycap Designers Discord and SwitchKeys Discord
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Offline Stickk

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 03:02:18 »
Nice set, who's Stick

Offline Snotburger

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 03:02:47 »
16 March 2021
- Added proto[Typist] as Vendor for UK
- Added Swagkeys as Vendor for KO

15 March 2021
- Added iLumbkb as Vendor for SEA

Happy to have iLumbkb as our vendor for SEA! Also novelties update coming soon (TM)

12 March 2021
- Minor changes to base kit
- Added DeskHero as Vendor for CA

Just some minor changes, glad to have DeskHero as a vendor as well :thumb:

10 March 2021
Big (and hopefully last) update on kitting and vendors:

- Removed GMK CR as Alpha Legends Colour
- Changed Alpha Legends Colour to Pantone 7449 C
- Removed one of the novelties
- Added Hiragana Sublegends to base kit
- Added 40s Kit
- Updated Spacebars Kit
- Added Alternate Alphas Kit
- Added SwitchKeys as vendor for OCE

Happy to take on SwitchKeys as a vendor for the OCE region, they've been helping out with the set as well, I can't thank them enough.

Took in some of the feedback like swapping the alpha legend colour with the mod colour to save cost, and adding hiragana sublegends.

I also added a 40s and an Alternate Alphas Kit with just the mod colour, and I'm eager to get feedback on those as well.

Again, appreciation for any comments, keep them coming :thumb:

8 March 2021
Hey guys, a quick update to the IC:
- Moved B from Spacebars to Base
- Changed Print, Scroll and Pause to mod colours
- Removed 1.75u Backspace
- Changed R3 pipe to alpha colors
- Removed mod colour R1 pipe
- Added mod colour arrows
- Added 1.5u Supers
- Added F13 Key

Just did these because I wanted to iron out the kitting errors I made so that I can focus more on collabs, novelties etc.

Thanks to all of the suggestions and support, whether praise or criticism, everything is appreciated!

I didn't really make it clear but if you're down for a collab just DM me on Discord: Snotburger#0001.





Was the captcha that I got for this post lol
« Last Edit: Tue, 16 March 2021, 01:10:21 by Snotburger »

Offline SirTimmyTimbit

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 03:15:31 »
wow! So beautiful 😍

Love the Novelties! Great work!

Offline bigern302

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 03:21:50 »
Itís less good plum. 

Offline AJPlus

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 03:33:08 »
These are nice always a fan of Japanese art inspired caps

Offline JumpStream

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 05:16:20 »
I'm a sucker for anything Japanese, glwic

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Offline Izeri

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 05:33:06 »
Almost based Shinobu poster, you haven't included non accented arrows anywhere and Print|Scroll|Pause is wrong color. GLWIC!

Offline pupper125

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 06:05:47 »
Okay so a few things to consider here regarding kitting:
-First off you say that 40s will not be supported, but in your base kit you have a 1.75u backspace, this is a key used in 40s support.
-A 1.5u super key would be appreciated for 65 layouts that use a 1.5u super.
-Accent arrows are forced, leaving you with no option for mod arrows, but every other accent key has the mod equivalent.
-R3 pipe being in mod is a weird choice, its typically an alpha key.
-Consider moving B into base for easier alice compat, and to reduce the number of colours in your spacebar kit.
-R1 1u pipe doesnt need to be mod either, its standard to do it in alpha.


Regarding IC Formatting, you currently have the IC Form in 2 locations, once at the very top, and once at the very bottom, which looks a little odd, not sure if that's intentional. Its also typically standard practice to credit the designers behind the boards that you use in renders, just to show appreciation for their work. Hopefully some of this comes in handy when working on this set, because it definitely has potential!
« Last Edit: Sun, 07 March 2021, 06:14:27 by pupper125 »

Offline TyPo.mk

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 06:41:25 »
While I agree with the above points, I think pupper is nitpicking your renders a bit so I wouldnít worry about it too much. I will second the second B in base kit because it will make your bars kit appreciably cheaper while not making your base price change much.

Also would it be possible to get the dragon head novelty or a version of it onto a key that isnít ISO enter? It is kind of a shame that imo the coolest novelty and the one that represents the theme the best is in ISO only...

Offline nvh2092

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 06:43:00 »
Some kitting errors need to be fixed:
- Print, Scroll and Pause should be in mod color.
- R3 1u "\|" key should be in alpha color.
- Lack of mod color arrow keys.
- You've already had a 1.75u backspace in base kit, if you add a R3 1.25u tab key plus a R3 1.5u enter key, you can cover the majority of 40s layouts.
- And a F13 in base please.

Offline chat and team

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 12:05:26 »
weeb set ==

Offline Vadurr

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 12:12:56 »
I hate to be that guy, but NE sub legends avail?

Offline Kinesiologist

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 12:26:09 »
Looks good, can you please add the following into the base kit?

mod-colored: F13, Print, Scroll, Pause, Arrows
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Offline Auracity

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 13:47:13 »
r1 1u mod pipe gg

Offline LeCado

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 13:50:32 »
Looks very cool! The colour scheme is nice and the novelties are really cool.

Offline Snotburger

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - Minor Updates to Kits
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 14:18:13 »
8 March 2021
Hey guys, a quick update to the IC:
- Moved B from Spacebars to Base
- Changed Print, Scroll and Pause to mod colours
- Removed 1.75u Backspace
- Changed R3 pipe to alpha colors
- Removed mod colour R1 pipe
- Added mod colour arrows
- Added 1.5u Supers
- Added F13 Key

Just did these because I wanted to iron out the kitting errors I made so that I can focus more on collabs, novelties etc.

Thanks to all of the suggestions and support, whether praise or criticism, everything is appreciated!

I didn't really make it clear but if you're down for a collab just DM me on Discord: Snotburger#0001.

Offline Kinesiologist

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - Minor Updates to Kits
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 14:21:37 »
Appreciate all the wonderful additions you have made to the base kit. Love the colors and the theme.
« Last Edit: Sun, 07 March 2021, 16:13:56 by Kinesiologist »
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Offline nvh2092

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - Minor Updates to Kits
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 14:23:45 »
8 March 2021
Hey guys, a quick update to the IC:
- Moved B from Spacebars to Base
- Changed Print, Scroll and Pause to mod colours
- Removed 1.75u Backspace
- Changed R3 pipe to alpha colors
- Removed mod colour R1 pipe
- Added mod colour arrows
- Added 1.5u Supers
- Added F13 Key

Just did these because I wanted to iron out the kitting errors I made so that I can focus more on collabs, novelties etc.

Thanks to all of the suggestions and support, whether praise or criticism, everything is appreciated!

I didn't really make it clear but if you're down for a collab just DM me on Discord: Snotburger#0001.
I think that follow the color rules in the F-row, F13 should be in mod color. Also, have you tried mod color for alpha legends? This will reduce to 3 colors and surely will reduce the final price of the base kit.

Offline Snotburger

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - Minor Updates to Kits
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 14:41:10 »
Whoops, that's my bad. It should be fixed now.

Offline Rpmorrison10

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - Minor Updates to Kits
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 16:08:23 »
instead of removing the 1.75 backspace, why don't you just add the other 2 keys (r3 1.25 tab, and r3 1.5 enter) to help out a portion of the community? Those 3 keys might raise your cost by $1 but will get more people to buy.

Offline psxndc

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - Minor Updates to Kits
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 23:20:36 »
40s will not be supported.

I say this not to be "wah wah *crying*", you're certainly entitled to run this how you want. But if I didn't say anything, you'd never have the feedback: upfront lack of 40s support is why I'm not going to get the set.

GLWIC!

Offline gex

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - Minor Updates to Kits
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 08 March 2021, 10:13:30 »
i'd buy this with with an ortho kit in an instant

Offline Snotburger

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New Kits and Vendor!
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 09 March 2021, 23:39:55 »
Big (and hopefully last) update on kitting and vendors:

- Removed GMK CR as Alpha Legends Colour
- Changed Alpha Legends Colour to Pantone 7449 C
- Removed one of the novelties
- Added Hiragana Sublegends to base kit
- Added 40s Kit
- Updated Spacebars Kit
- Added Alternate Alphas Kit
- Added SwitchKeys as vendor for OCE

Happy to take on SwitchKeys as a vendor for the OCE region, they've been helping out with the set as well, I can't thank them enough.

Took in some of the feedback like swapping the alpha legend colour with the mod colour to save cost, and adding hiragana sublegends.

I also added a 40s and an Alternate Alphas Kit with just the mod colour, and I'm eager to get feedback on those as well.

Again, appreciation for any comments, keep them coming :thumb:
« Last Edit: Tue, 09 March 2021, 23:41:42 by Snotburger »

Offline Snotburger

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New CA Vendor
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 12 March 2021, 05:05:25 »
12 March 2021

- Minor changes to base kit
- Added DeskHero as Vendor for CA

Just some minor changes, glad to have DeskHero as a vendor as well :thumb:

Offline vladimir108

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New CA Vendor
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 12 March 2021, 13:23:13 »
Hello, in thread "GMK Beta" was published update of basic Latin/Hiragana GMK keycaps from Zambumon:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108290.msg3009840#msg3009840
Zambumon_GMK_Hiragana_Latin_RFC.pdf  https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=108290.0;attach=261369

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New CA Vendor
« Reply #26 on: Sat, 13 March 2021, 02:00:18 »
My input would be to make the alternate alpha kit the base kit and the white alphas the alternate. Give it a darker red esc, enter and spacebar and it would look amazing in my opinion.
 
Or please provide an option of the base kit with the alternate alphas if you don't want to change anything from the current base kit.

Offline tunb

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New CA Vendor
« Reply #27 on: Sat, 13 March 2021, 09:13:08 »
look amazing

Offline CodeMayhem

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New CA Vendor
« Reply #28 on: Sat, 13 March 2021, 18:40:23 »
I don't plan on buying for the record but what is that 40s kit? no 1u r2 backspace and no 1u tab of either row for ortho support, despite having the lower raise and 2u space-bar?

edit: wait so just the lower not the raise too.
« Last Edit: Sat, 13 March 2021, 18:43:18 by CodeMayhem »

Offline Kinesiologist

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New CA Vendor
« Reply #29 on: Sat, 13 March 2021, 20:08:06 »
Does the Alternate Alphas Kit have support to cover the function row keys too? F1-F4, F9-F12
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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New CA Vendor
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 15 March 2021, 01:09:47 »
15 March 2021

- Added iLumbkb as Vendor for SEA

Happy to have iLumbkb as our vendor for SEA! Also novelties update coming soon (TM)

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New Vendors
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 16 March 2021, 01:09:30 »
16 March 2021

- Added proto[Typist] as Vendor for UK
- Added Swagkeys as Vendor for KO

Offline Snotburger

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Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New Vendors
« Reply #32 on: Thu, 15 April 2021, 04:32:40 »
Regarding GMK Orochi

I'll keep this short, but basically I'm going to be taking a break from this project. I don't know how long it will be for, or if it will be temporary at all. For the record, I did have other changes planned before group buy such as switching from Pantone to RAL, updating novelties, redoing the 40s kit, adding other vendors and others.

I'm leaving entirely because of personal reasons. To be clear, I never expected to make it this far to begin with and I would consider this to be a great learning experience.

Thank you

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Re: [IC] Regarding GMK Orochi
« Reply #33 on: Thu, 15 April 2021, 13:06:00 »
GL and hope to see you back soon.

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Re: [IC] Regarding GMK Orochi
« Reply #34 on: Thu, 15 April 2021, 13:45:04 »
Hope all is well! Lookin forward to your return.