Author Topic: Cherry MX (taking pre-orders!) (Read 28531 times)

7bit · « **Reply #50 on:** Sat, 16 June 2012, 16:48:09 »

Quote from: rodya;614955

Is anyone able to help me confirm this (taken from the wiki)

MXGREY = Light Grey (grey 39): tactile, Actuation Force 80cN, used for space bar in Cherry Corp keyboards with clears and browns, MX1A-D (Compaq MX 11800), G80-8955HPDUS (POS)
MXWHITE = Clicky switch. Opaque (?) White stem. 80cN activation force. MX1A-A.

Is the MXWHITE actually clicky or tactile? The wiki says the datasheet says:

MX1A-Momentary single Pole with Tacticle Feel, 80cN Standard, Movement Differential, white keystem

MXWHITE is clicky sort-tactile. Also the click is less clicky than with blues or greens. It is white, unlike the clear switches. Please don't mess it up with the historic whites, which where the predecessor of the blues.

Some people say it is similar to a clicky ALPS, but in fact Cherry MX switches are made for robustness, abusability and key caps compatibility, not for being nice to type on.

Game Theory · « **Reply #51 on:** Sat, 16 June 2012, 21:27:24 »

[video=youtube;JKUplBe0wAA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKUplBe0wAA[/video]

alaricljs · « **Reply #52 on:** Sat, 16 June 2012, 21:59:20 »

Having received a batch of switches from 7bit, here's my take on fiddling with bare switches.

White is less clicky(noise) and less tactile(feel) than blue or green. It feels a bit heavier than green.

rodya · « **Reply #53 on:** Sun, 17 June 2012, 03:51:16 »

Ah, got it. Thanks for the explanations (and the video too!)

damorgue · « **Reply #54 on:** Sun, 17 June 2012, 05:49:30 »

1) First off, is there a bounty on ppl that order a few of each and make life hard for you?
2) Is that shipping fee valid for EU buyers as well?
3) If most of the switches will be available by 2013, is there any reason for me to get in on them now or would it just be better to wait for a group buy closer to their date of availability?
4) Are there ever any group buys of switches with diodes?
I am new to this if you didn't notice already

Zifle · « **Reply #55 on:** Sun, 17 June 2012, 07:38:44 »

Quote from: damorgue;615410

1) First off, is there a bounty on ppl that order a few of each and make life hard for you?
2) Is that shipping fee valid for EU buyers as well?
3) If most of the switches will be available by 2013, is there any reason for me to get in on them now or would it just be better to wait for a group buy closer to their date of availability?
4) Are there ever any group buys of switches with diodes?
I am new to this if you didn't notice already

1) I asked this question myself (more or less), and the answer was no, there's no "LOWQTYFEES" or anything like that, and neither does it say so in the email I received.
2) AFAIK, yes. I am, however wondering how 7bit plans on splitting up the shippings. He mentioned he would just ship out whatever he gets, but wouldn't that add up the shipping costs?
3) Supposedly not, but you might forget. In any case, there's not much reason not to get in on this now, either, as you could always cancel your order, if need be.
4) If you're talking about LED's, I doubt it, you'll have to find the specific LED's yourself (which shouldn't be too hard either). Other members can fill you in on the requirements for them, as I can't remember them off the top of my head.

alaricljs · « **Reply #56 on:** Sun, 17 June 2012, 09:20:00 »

4) This is only the second ever switch group buy so there's not much precedent to go on. It may be a little labor intensive, but you can always purchase diodes separately and put them in the switches yourself.

damorgue · « **Reply #57 on:** Sun, 17 June 2012, 10:55:44 »

Let's say I would order 4 of each switch. It would be perfectly fine with me if he waits until he has gotten them all before he sends them. Sending out partial orders wouldn't work really. It seems unreasonable to send them out as he gets them, especially to EU for each switch type as they arrive since there would be so many separate shipments.

Since I will then have to wait for the complete order, I may as well wait for another group buy to pop up again a couple of months, or see if this one is still active by then, since the 2013 orders will still be waiting for delivery I suppose.

Thanks for your answers btw

7bit · « **Reply #58 on:** Sun, 17 June 2012, 17:29:26 »

Quote from: damorgue;615410

1) First off, is there a bounty on ppl that order a few of each and make life hard for you?
2) Is that shipping fee valid for EU buyers as well?
3) If most of the switches will be available by 2013, is there any reason for me to get in on them now or would it just be better to wait for a group buy closer to their date of availability?
4) Are there ever any group buys of switches with diodes?
I am new to this if you didn't notice already

1:?

2: Shipping costs are $5 no matter how many are ordered.
This is worldwide the same, even if you come to me and pick them up.

3: If you wait until early 2013, you will probably wait until early 2014 to get your switches, ie if I organise a 3rd switch group buy at all!

To make it clearer:
We must order last week to get them by February 2013. Maybe current earliest delivery date is March 2013.

4: I doubt they have any with diodes ready, so diodes will have to be ordered separately. Nevertheless, I will ask for them. Same for LEDs.

7bit · « **Reply #59 on:** Sun, 17 June 2012, 17:32:18 »

Quote from: Zifle;615424

1) I asked this question myself (more or less), and the answer was no, there's no "LOWQTYFEES" or anything like that, and neither does it say so in the email I received.
2) AFAIK, yes. I am, however wondering how 7bit plans on splitting up the shippings. He mentioned he would just ship out whatever he gets, but wouldn't that add up the shipping costs?
3) Supposedly not, but you might forget. In any case, there's not much reason not to get in on this now, either, as you could always cancel your order, if need be.
4) If you're talking about LED's, I doubt it, you'll have to find the specific LED's yourself (which shouldn't be too hard either). Other members can fill you in on the requirements for them, as I can't remember them off the top of my head.

From some point onward, shipping costs are quite linear to the number of switches, so I just take $5 per order, no matter how many switches you order.

LEDs: I try to get prices for genuine Cherry LEDs in red, yellow, green and maybe orange.

7bit · « **Reply #60 on:** Sun, 17 June 2012, 17:33:27 »

Quote from: alaricljs;615456

4) This is only the second ever switch group buy so there's not much precedent to go on. It may be a little labor intensive, but you can always purchase diodes separately and put them in the switches yourself.

Many platemounted keyboards have the diodes not in the switches, BTW.

7bit · « **Reply #61 on:** Sun, 17 June 2012, 17:34:33 »

Quote from: damorgue;615488

Let's say I would order 4 of each switch. It would be perfectly fine with me if he waits until he has gotten them all before he sends them. Sending out partial orders wouldn't work really. It seems unreasonable to send them out as he gets them, especially to EU for each switch type as they arrive since there would be so many separate shipments.

Since I will then have to wait for the complete order, I may as well wait for another group buy to pop up again a couple of months, or see if this one is still active by then, since the 2013 orders will still be waiting for delivery I suppose.

Thanks for your answers btw

I do think of 100s of switches, when I say I ship those which are available now immediately after receiving them and the rest later.

zeropluszero · « **Reply #62 on:** Mon, 18 June 2012, 01:06:23 »

how much would you charge shipping for one blue switch to australia?
yes im serious. i just broke one

dko2o · « **Reply #63 on:** Mon, 18 June 2012, 01:41:21 »

Quote from: zeropluszero;616023

how much would you charge shipping for one blue switch to australia?
yes im serious. i just broke one

did you break the stem of the switch?

zulios · « **Reply #64 on:** Mon, 18 June 2012, 01:59:21 »

Quote from: 7bit;615745

From some point onward, shipping costs are quite linear to the number of switches, so I just take $5 per order, no matter how many switches you order.

LEDs: I try to get prices for genuine Cherry LEDs in red, yellow, green and maybe orange.

Definitely interested in orange, probably red as well. Has anyone tried changing them on a recent g80-3000 ? They're so tiny it seems almost impossible to me.

zeropluszero · « **Reply #65 on:** Mon, 18 June 2012, 03:18:27 »

Quote from: dko2o;616032

did you break the stem of the switch?

i went to pull a keycap off, and pulled the entire switch stem out of the shell. broke two tiny clips that held it in.

komar007 · « **Reply #66 on:** Mon, 18 June 2012, 09:19:24 »

Quote from: zeropluszero;616070

i went to pull a keycap off, and pulled the entire switch stem out of the shell. broke two tiny clips that held it in.

PM me, I can send you a clear for free, I think the housings are the same. Not sure how much shipping will be though.

alaricljs · « **Reply #67 on:** Mon, 18 June 2012, 09:25:34 »

The part he needs is a blue stem, that's the bit with the retention clips.

jdcarpe · « **Reply #68 on:** Mon, 18 June 2012, 09:30:29 »

Sounds like the stem came out, and broke two of the retention clips on the top of the switch housing. I have lots of switch housing tops. Pics?

komar007 · « **Reply #69 on:** Mon, 18 June 2012, 09:30:39 »

Oh, I thought it was the clips from the black cover.
So I can't help.

7bit · « **Reply #70 on:** Mon, 18 June 2012, 12:53:05 »

Quote from: zeropluszero;616023

how much would you charge shipping for one blue switch to australia?
yes im serious. i just broke one

$5 plus the price for the switch.

zeropluszero · « **Reply #71 on:** Tue, 19 June 2012, 00:23:37 »

no worries. i'll place an order now.

emptythecache · « **Reply #72 on:** Thu, 21 June 2012, 10:19:31 »

I may get in on this, but it depends on whether I end up finding first:

1. A Red Switch Filco and an aluminum case for it
2. A Cheat with no switches/not red switches

damorgue · « **Reply #73 on:** Fri, 22 June 2012, 05:50:10 »

I just placed an order. Feel free to wait until all of them have arrived in 2013.

rodya · « **Reply #74 on:** Sat, 23 June 2012, 15:27:13 »

Sorry to keep changing my order 7bit, but is there a deadline for this? I'm still trying to decide exactly what to order.

Djuzuh · « **Reply #75 on:** Sat, 23 June 2012, 16:34:47 »

you can change around as much as you want, don't worry.

demik · « **Reply #76 on:** Sat, 23 June 2012, 18:36:16 »

Quote from: emptythecache;618625

I may get in on this, but it depends on whether I end up finding first:

1. A Red Switch Filco and an aluminum case for it
2. A Cheat with no switches/not red switches

koreans didn't really fall for the red switch hype like everybody else did.

chances are you'd find a cheat with either blues, browns, or clears all with custom springs.

dorkvader · « **Reply #77 on:** Sat, 23 June 2012, 22:51:32 »

What's a "cheat" ? I'm interested.

demik · « **Reply #78 on:** Sat, 23 June 2012, 23:01:10 »

ic07 · « **Reply #79 on:** Thu, 16 August 2012, 17:28:22 »

Quote from: OrangeJewce on Tue, 05 June 2012, 14:35:42

If you really need MX Red switches that are PCB Mount, It's been stated that Kinesis sells them in packs. Just contact them personally.

I know this is an old comment, but FWIW: Kinesis only sells reds (and maybe browns), typically in quantities of 5-10 per order, to support their own boards. Not that they seem like suspicious people, but when I asked for 170 switches they were curious if I was modding a contoured board, and I wasn't about to lie to them. Oh well

.

danielucf · « **Reply #80 on:** Thu, 16 August 2012, 17:45:38 »

If I put my order in at deskthority when geekhack refugee camp was going strong is this essentially the same group buy? Also since MX Clear for plate mount says in stock will those orders go out any time soon?
Also any chance for a status update on #s ordered?

G.C.W. · « **Reply #81 on:** Thu, 04 October 2012, 15:33:54 »

Bump for this great service

TheQsanity · « **Reply #82 on:** Thu, 04 October 2012, 20:18:13 »

Is this thread for Switches only(for modding?)

What are the prices?

Thanks

alaricljs · « **Reply #83 on:** Thu, 04 October 2012, 20:42:28 »

Okey, locked this up because even tho 7bit swings by every once in a while he is NOT posting.

If you need to deal with this GB, please go pester him on Desthority. Here's the GB thread.

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Author Topic: Cherry MX (taking pre-orders!) (Read 28531 times)