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Title: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 14 January 2019, 12:21:33
Yoo

So i've been wanting to do this for a bit. FR4 plates. FR4 is a composite material composed of woven fiberglass cloth with an epoxy resin binder that is flame resistant (thanks Wikipedia). Basically, it's the substrate found in most-to-all PCBs.

It's properties put it pretty much in between polycarbonate and aluminum for plates. It's flexy and will give, but still provides support.

I have some prototype Jane V2 plates without copper on them. This is how I plan to do other plates.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/312287977151660042/534377997734641674/image0.jpg)

The prototype's cutouts are great. I know people have had some issues doing good cut outs before, but I got my fab on top of it. Alps plates will be 1.2mm per spec.

The colors are based on the solder mask provided by the manufacturer. I'm planning on matte black, blue and red at least - maybe white or green too as limited numbers. ISO-only plates will probably only be offered in one or two colors max, as there's generally less demand for them.

I might mess with the relief cuts and stuff, not too sure if they'll really change anything since the thing is pretty flexy as it is.

These are pretty easy to stock, so I will probably just direct stock them given some interest.

Plans for now:

Google Form for layouts, colors, and keyboard suggestions: https://goo.gl/forms/DOpcuvRLuS9JNG2q1  (https://goo.gl/forms/DOpcuvRLuS9JNG2q1)
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates
Post by: Tonkatonk on Mon, 14 January 2019, 12:24:29
Count me in for one!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates
Post by: txclack on Mon, 14 January 2019, 12:26:17
Definitely interested.  FR4 is a cool material.  Relief cuts or copper might spice up the design.  Love what they did with the keycult fr4 plates.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates
Post by: hayt on Mon, 14 January 2019, 12:31:57
Thanks, Hiney. Been enjoying following all your recent projects and I'm definitely interested in a blue one.

Would you consider doing a half plate ANSI version?

TY
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 14 January 2019, 12:33:45
Thanks, Hiney. Been enjoying following all your recent projects and I'm definitely interested in a blue one.

Would you consider doing a half plate ANSI version?

TY

Maybe. The cool thing about FR4 is that it can be cut/sanded/modded easily. I was thinking about just providing the normal full plate, and if someone wanted to make their own half plate or some other crazy thing they can. You just have to be careful, you don't want to be breathing in the fiberglass dust.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: Lbibass on Mon, 14 January 2019, 12:40:30
This is pretty awesome! For the alps plates, are you planning on doing 1.2mm plates? I'd assume so.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 14 January 2019, 12:41:57
This is pretty awesome! For the alps plates, are you planning on doing 1.2mm plates? I'd assume so.

Yep.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates
Post by: hayt on Mon, 14 January 2019, 12:49:47
Thanks, Hiney. Been enjoying following all your recent projects and I'm definitely interested in a blue one.

Would you consider doing a half plate ANSI version?

TY

Maybe. The cool thing about FR4 is that it can be cut/sanded/modded easily. I was thinking about just providing the normal full plate, and if someone wanted to make their own half plate or some other crazy thing they can. You just have to be careful, you don't want to be breathing in the fiberglass dust.

Cool, thanks for including this as an option in your IC form. Filled out.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 14 January 2019, 12:51:06
iso sucks

Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: ChrisSwires on Mon, 14 January 2019, 12:52:23
Any chance of just doing a basic ***** 60 tray for people to mess about with? Would open up the buy to a lot more users maybe?

(Like me. All those keyboards so big dude).

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Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: o3okevin on Mon, 14 January 2019, 13:17:20
Would it be possible to offer h87a's alongside the plates to bundle shipping when they go live?
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 14 January 2019, 14:24:34
Any chance of just doing a basic ***** 60 tray for people to mess about with? Would open up the buy to a lot more users maybe?

(Like me. All those keyboards so big dude).

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Like a full kit/board, or just a plate?

Would it be possible to offer h87a's alongside the plates to bundle shipping when they go live?

I'd love to. not sure atm. I hope to have the next design iteration done in the next couple weeks, but the GB itself would take another 1-2 months to ship. I'd hope to have these ready to go sooner than that.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: ChrisSwires on Mon, 14 January 2019, 14:38:26
Any chance of just doing a basic ***** 60 tray for people to mess about with? Would open up the buy to a lot more users maybe?

(Like me. All those keyboards so big dude).

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Like a full kit/board, or just a plate?

Would it be possible to offer h87a's alongside the plates to bundle shipping when they go live?

I'd love to. not sure atm. I hope to have the next design iteration done in the next couple weeks, but the GB itself would take another 1-2 months to ship. I'd hope to have these ready to go sooner than that.
Just the plate was my thinking (is a plate IC!), Fr4 is a cool material to experiment with for sure so I'd be down, I'm sure a lot would.

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Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: o3okevin on Mon, 14 January 2019, 14:57:31
Any chance of just doing a basic ***** 60 tray for people to mess about with? Would open up the buy to a lot more users maybe?

(Like me. All those keyboards so big dude).

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Like a full kit/board, or just a plate?

Would it be possible to offer h87a's alongside the plates to bundle shipping when they go live?

I'd love to. not sure atm. I hope to have the next design iteration done in the next couple weeks, but the GB itself would take another 1-2 months to ship. I'd hope to have these ready to go sooner than that.
If the timing does end up lining up, that'd definitely make it that much more appealing :) looking forward to the buy either way
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: bobdenard on Mon, 14 January 2019, 15:09:25
Interested in a 60 plate as well.


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Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 14 January 2019, 15:29:28
Won't buy if you do an ISO version lul
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: bthezebra on Mon, 14 January 2019, 17:21:44
Very awesome definitely in for one hiney!
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: finalarcadia on Mon, 14 January 2019, 17:36:06
Would love single layout MX Ansi WKL version for the Jane V2. The lack of ISO helps, but the extra cutouts still trigger the ocd

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Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 14 January 2019, 21:28:25
Won't buy if you do an ISO version lul

that's fine since you're banned from my buys
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 14 January 2019, 21:30:14
Won't buy if you do an ISO version lul

that's fine since you're banned from my buys

gottem
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 14 January 2019, 23:57:01
Won't buy if you do an ISO version lul

that's fine since you're banned from my buys

got me
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 15 January 2019, 01:38:21
In for 1, maybe 2. Would also be interested in a half plate if possible.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: The_judge_168 on Tue, 15 January 2019, 11:50:56
Filled out the form, hoping green plates make it
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: tex_live_utility on Thu, 17 January 2019, 22:31:49
60% standard tray mount could be fun, not sure it's quite the same target market as TGR buyers, though. Could be an appealing option to go along with the Noxary T60, since FR4 isn't super "flexy" like polycarbonate but it is very "bouncy".

Is there any standardization at all around plates for non-tray 60% customs? Of all the things that are standard about 60s, it seems kind of weird that plates aren't at least somewhat interchangeable.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: sJ1N on Fri, 18 January 2019, 00:49:34
Filled out the form, tough to decide on the colour
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 18 January 2019, 00:57:18
Would the TX87 be compatible with this?
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 18 January 2019, 05:39:51
Would the TX87 be compatible with this?

No, both TX84/87 and TX84/87se use different plates.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 18 January 2019, 06:16:02
I'd encourage you to replicate the relief cuts for sound as well, without them the arrows and lower nav cluster keys will probably sound more hollow than without.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Fri, 18 January 2019, 09:35:08
I'd encourage you to replicate the relief cuts for sound as well, without them the arrows and lower nav cluster keys will probably sound more hollow than without.

Yea, the first run pictured was pretty much a test to make sure everything would be good. The file yuktsi send me didn't have relief cuts, so I'll have to work on adding em in.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: dubious on Wed, 30 January 2019, 12:16:06
interested
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Wed, 30 January 2019, 14:08:13
should have a few in stock in mid-late March.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Sun, 10 February 2019, 23:08:08
Here's the plan for these:

Stock in mid-march (Price estimates only, not 100% final)

Code: [Select]
FR4 Jane V2 plate - Matte black only ~$25
FR4 Jane V1/Orion/Mech27/Mira/Moon (need to verify this compat) - Matte black, gloss red/blue ~$25
    MX plates in both ANSI and ISO only (ISO only avail in matte black) - all 1.6mm thick
    Alps plates will be WKL (tsangan with 1u winkey)-only and AEK-only (1.2mm thick, matte black)
FR4 QXP Plates ~$20-25
    Final layout TBD, will likely be universal/same as the GB plate
    Matte black, gloss red, blue, white, green (not a lot of each)

There will be less gloss blue/red than matte black, think like 3:1:1 matte black:gloss red:blue.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: vegs on Mon, 11 February 2019, 00:58:48
Salamander should be compatible too, right?

In that case, I'm definitely in for one in ISO.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 11 February 2019, 01:03:25
Salamander should be compatible too, right?

In that case, I'm definitely in for one in ISO.

Not 100% sure. depends on the plate design. I haven't seen much about the Salamander's design.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: _GMK_ on Mon, 11 February 2019, 01:28:09
Well, if you make a plate with the pcb material, why don't you make a full sandwich case, with pcb middle too? That would be nice, colourful, and cheap.

Working on geometries and sound should be easy. You could also provide a multistrate bottom for those who want a different sound.

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 11 February 2019, 01:47:53
Well, if you make a plate with the pcb material, why don't you make a full sandwich case, with pcb middle too? That would be nice, colourful, and cheap.

Working on geometries and sound should be easy. You could also provide a multistrate bottom for those who want a different sound.

(Attachment Link)

Lotta time and effort there. I'm just trying to give some options to people with existing good cases. The budget game isn't my focus.


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Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: _GMK_ on Mon, 11 February 2019, 03:15:37
Well, if you make a plate with the pcb material, why don't you make a full sandwich case, with pcb middle too? That would be nice, colourful, and cheap.

Working on geometries and sound should be easy. You could also provide a multistrate bottom for those who want a different sound.

(Attachment Link)

Lotta time and effort there. I'm just trying to give some options to people with existing good cases. The budget game isn't my focus.


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Well, I talked about "nice, colourful, and cheap.", you probably don't want to focus on nice and colourful too  :rolleyes:

Not sure about the effort involved, I tought that after designing a plate, a case would be the simplest thing ever.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: OtherAndrew on Mon, 11 February 2019, 03:16:53
Well, if you make a plate with the pcb material, why don't you make a full sandwich case, with pcb middle too? That would be nice, colourful, and cheap.

Working on geometries and sound should be easy. You could also provide a multistrate bottom for those who want a different sound.

(Attachment Link)

Lotta time and effort there. I'm just trying to give some options to people with existing good cases. The budget game isn't my focus.


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Well, I talked about "nice, colourful, and cheap.", you probably don't want to focus on nice and colourful too  :rolleyes:

Not sure about the effort involved, I tought that after designing a plate, a case would be the simplest thing ever.
omegalul
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: vegs on Mon, 11 February 2019, 03:20:39
Salamander should be compatible too, right?

In that case, I'm definitely in for one in ISO.

Not 100% sure. depends on the plate design. I haven't seen much about the Salamander's design.
I'll PM you some pics later today :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 11 February 2019, 05:59:46
Well, if you make a plate with the pcb material, why don't you make a full sandwich case, with pcb middle too? That would be nice, colourful, and cheap.

Working on geometries and sound should be easy. You could also provide a multistrate bottom for those who want a different sound.

(Attachment Link)

Lotta time and effort there. I'm just trying to give some options to people with existing good cases. The budget game isn't my focus.


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Well, I talked about "nice, colourful, and cheap.", you probably don't want to focus on nice and colourful too  :rolleyes:

Not sure about the effort involved, I tought that after designing a plate, a case would be the simplest thing ever.
I'm still not sure you entirely get the point of this IC but thats cool.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: finalarcadia on Mon, 11 February 2019, 07:37:30
Patiently waiting for these to build my Jane V2.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: _GMK_ on Mon, 11 February 2019, 08:33:29
Well, if you make a plate with the pcb material, why don't you make a full sandwich case, with pcb middle too? That would be nice, colourful, and cheap.

Working on geometries and sound should be easy. You could also provide a multistrate bottom for those who want a different sound.

(Attachment Link)

Lotta time and effort there. I'm just trying to give some options to people with existing good cases. The budget game isn't my focus.


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Well, I talked about "nice, colourful, and cheap.", you probably don't want to focus on nice and colourful too  :rolleyes:

Not sure about the effort involved, I tought that after designing a plate, a case would be the simplest thing ever.
I'm still not sure you entirely get the point of this IC but thats cool.

I was simply suggesting an evolution of this or of the next GB by the OP. Given that designing the plate is complicated and time consuming - full of constraints and compatibility issues as it is - it seemed really trivial to use the same work as a base to make a skeleton case.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 11 February 2019, 09:30:57
Well, if you make a plate with the pcb material, why don't you make a full sandwich case, with pcb middle too? That would be nice, colourful, and cheap.

Working on geometries and sound should be easy. You could also provide a multistrate bottom for those who want a different sound.

(Attachment Link)

Lotta time and effort there. I'm just trying to give some options to people with existing good cases. The budget game isn't my focus.


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Well, I talked about "nice, colourful, and cheap.", you probably don't want to focus on nice and colourful too  :rolleyes:

Not sure about the effort involved, I tought that after designing a plate, a case would be the simplest thing ever.
I'm still not sure you entirely get the point of this IC but thats cool.

I was simply suggesting an evolution of this or of the next GB by the OP. Given that designing the plate is complicated and time consuming - full of constraints and compatibility issues as it is - it seemed really trivial to use the same work as a base to make a skeleton case.

I... just don't want to do it.


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Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 11 February 2019, 09:39:27
Well, if you make a plate with the pcb material, why don't you make a full sandwich case, with pcb middle too? That would be nice, colourful, and cheap.

Working on geometries and sound should be easy. You could also provide a multistrate bottom for those who want a different sound.

(Attachment Link)

Lotta time and effort there. I'm just trying to give some options to people with existing good cases. The budget game isn't my focus.


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Well, I talked about "nice, colourful, and cheap.", you probably don't want to focus on nice and colourful too  :rolleyes:

Not sure about the effort involved, I tought that after designing a plate, a case would be the simplest thing ever.
I'm still not sure you entirely get the point of this IC but thats cool.

I was simply suggesting an evolution of this or of the next GB by the OP. Given that designing the plate is complicated and time consuming - full of constraints and compatibility issues as it is - it seemed really trivial to use the same work as a base to make a skeleton case.
The complicated part of this was making it universal for a bunch of different preexisting boards. You can easily design a plate for a sandwich case with tools online, bet swills plate builder would work.

Sandwich boards also aren't in high demand.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 11 February 2019, 09:46:30
Super interested in getting a few for Mira SE/Mech27. Is there any estimate on price?
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: wholypantalones on Mon, 11 February 2019, 09:54:36
Are no.1 plates a possibility?

I'd take one for no.1 and Mira if possible.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 11 February 2019, 09:58:55
Are no.1 plates a possibility?

I'd take one for no.1 and Mira if possible.

Maybe. Keycap Dungeon has had some in the past, designed by me as well.


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Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 11 February 2019, 10:18:48
Well, if you make a plate with the pcb material, why don't you make a full sandwich case, with pcb middle too? That would be nice, colourful, and cheap.

Working on geometries and sound should be easy. You could also provide a multistrate bottom for those who want a different sound.

(Attachment Link)

Lotta time and effort there. I'm just trying to give some options to people with existing good cases. The budget game isn't my focus.


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Well, I talked about "nice, colourful, and cheap.", you probably don't want to focus on nice and colourful too  :rolleyes:

Not sure about the effort involved, I tought that after designing a plate, a case would be the simplest thing ever.
I'm still not sure you entirely get the point of this IC but thats cool.

I was simply suggesting an evolution of this or of the next GB by the OP. Given that designing the plate is complicated and time consuming - full of constraints and compatibility issues as it is - it seemed really trivial to use the same work as a base to make a skeleton case.

I... just don't want to do it.


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But innovation! Think about the innovation and skeleton kits, don't you want to make a keyboard exclusively out of FR4 sheets?
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 11 February 2019, 10:19:40
Well, if you make a plate with the pcb material, why don't you make a full sandwich case, with pcb middle too? That would be nice, colourful, and cheap.

Working on geometries and sound should be easy. You could also provide a multistrate bottom for those who want a different sound.

(Attachment Link)

Lotta time and effort there. I'm just trying to give some options to people with existing good cases. The budget game isn't my focus.


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Well, I talked about "nice, colourful, and cheap.", you probably don't want to focus on nice and colourful too  :rolleyes:

Not sure about the effort involved, I tought that after designing a plate, a case would be the simplest thing ever.
I'm still not sure you entirely get the point of this IC but thats cool.

I was simply suggesting an evolution of this or of the next GB by the OP. Given that designing the plate is complicated and time consuming - full of constraints and compatibility issues as it is - it seemed really trivial to use the same work as a base to make a skeleton case.

I... just don't want to do it.


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But innovation! Think about the innovation and skeleton kits, don't you want to make a keyboard exclusively out of FR4 sheets?

yes


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Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 11 February 2019, 10:20:41
Well, if you make a plate with the pcb material, why don't you make a full sandwich case, with pcb middle too? That would be nice, colourful, and cheap.

Working on geometries and sound should be easy. You could also provide a multistrate bottom for those who want a different sound.

(Attachment Link)

Lotta time and effort there. I'm just trying to give some options to people with existing good cases. The budget game isn't my focus.


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Well, I talked about "nice, colourful, and cheap.", you probably don't want to focus on nice and colourful too  :rolleyes:

Not sure about the effort involved, I tought that after designing a plate, a case would be the simplest thing ever.
I'm still not sure you entirely get the point of this IC but thats cool.

I was simply suggesting an evolution of this or of the next GB by the OP. Given that designing the plate is complicated and time consuming - full of constraints and compatibility issues as it is - it seemed really trivial to use the same work as a base to make a skeleton case.

I... just don't want to do it.


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But innovation! Think about the innovation and skeleton kits, don't you want to make a keyboard exclusively out of FR4 sheets?

yes


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Thanks Hiney... I put my trust in you... Expect FR4
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: mrpetrov on Mon, 11 February 2019, 11:37:00
In! Got hiney's pcb, now need this plate. Soon I hope you'll make a tkl case!
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 11 February 2019, 12:22:22
Salamander should be compatible too, right?

In that case, I'm definitely in for one in ISO.

Not 100% sure. depends on the plate design. I haven't seen much about the Salamander's design.

To follow up here, I asked Quad_H and he confirmed that the Salamander plate isn't the same.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: _GMK_ on Tue, 12 February 2019, 04:02:00
Ok, thanks for taking this into consideration anyway  :thumb:

It would have looked fantastic.

[attachimg=1]

[attachimg=2]

[attachimg=3]

http://www.40percent.club/2017/08/mlp-middle-pieces.html
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: OtherAndrew on Tue, 12 February 2019, 04:46:35
It would have looked fantastic.

very funny bud
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Tue, 12 February 2019, 10:14:54
yea i mean i get the scope of the idea and i appreciate that it works as a cheap and easy to design kit. i have no plans to do these things myself though.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 01 March 2019, 13:43:52
Any chance of half plate ver?
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Fri, 01 March 2019, 13:49:12
Any chance of half plate ver?

maybe


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Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 01 March 2019, 16:58:06
Any chance of half plate ver?

maybe


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fingers crossed.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: The_judge_168 on Mon, 04 March 2019, 21:56:27
Here's the plan for these:

Stock in mid-march (Price estimates only, not 100% final)

Code: [Select]
FR4 Jane V2 plate - Matte black only ~$25
FR4 Jane V1/Orion/Mech27/Mira/Moon (need to verify this compat) - Matte black, gloss red/blue ~$25
    MX plates in both ANSI and ISO only (ISO only avail in matte black) - all 1.6mm thick
    Alps plates will be WKL (tsangan with 1u winkey)-only and AEK-only (1.2mm thick, matte black)
FR4 QXP Plates ~$20-25
    Final layout TBD, will likely be universal/same as the GB plate
    Matte black, gloss red, blue, white, green (not a lot of each)

There will be less gloss blue/red than matte black, think like 3:1:1 matte black:gloss red:blue.

Still on track for mid-march?
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 04 March 2019, 21:58:04
Here's the plan for these:

Stock in mid-march (Price estimates only, not 100% final)

Code: [Select]
FR4 Jane V2 plate - Matte black only ~$25
FR4 Jane V1/Orion/Mech27/Mira/Moon (need to verify this compat) - Matte black, gloss red/blue ~$25
    MX plates in both ANSI and ISO only (ISO only avail in matte black) - all 1.6mm thick
    Alps plates will be WKL (tsangan with 1u winkey)-only and AEK-only (1.2mm thick, matte black)
FR4 QXP Plates ~$20-25
    Final layout TBD, will likely be universal/same as the GB plate
    Matte black, gloss red, blue, white, green (not a lot of each)

There will be less gloss blue/red than matte black, think like 3:1:1 matte black:gloss red:blue.

Still on track for mid-march?

Should be. Hoping to order these by the end of next week.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 22:27:59
Here's the plan for these:

Stock in mid-march (Price estimates only, not 100% final)

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FR4 Jane V2 plate - Matte black only ~$25
FR4 Jane V1/Orion/Mech27/Mira/Moon (need to verify this compat) - Matte black, gloss red/blue ~$25
    MX plates in both ANSI and ISO only (ISO only avail in matte black) - all 1.6mm thick
    Alps plates will be WKL (tsangan with 1u winkey)-only and AEK-only (1.2mm thick, matte black)
FR4 QXP Plates ~$20-25
    Final layout TBD, will likely be universal/same as the GB plate
    Matte black, gloss red, blue, white, green (not a lot of each)

There will be less gloss blue/red than matte black, think like 3:1:1 matte black:gloss red:blue.

Still on track for mid-march?

Should be. Hoping to order these by the end of next week.

FR4 is quite interesting. I have a few made for my Canoe, works well
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: Darknight00z on Tue, 05 March 2019, 11:36:27
@oldcat how does FR4 compare with carbon fibre and polycarb? Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 05 March 2019, 11:46:42
@oldcat how does FR4 compare with carbon fibre and polycarb? Thanks!

sort of in between.
Personally I like CF the best. But FR4 is close. PC 1.5mm is way too soft (especially for linears). IMO thicc PC is the best way to go but very expensive to machine.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: sJ1N on Fri, 15 March 2019, 16:02:27
is this still going to happen?

ignore me i can't read
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 15 March 2019, 16:07:53
is this still going to happen?

yes
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Fri, 15 March 2019, 17:54:57
is this still going to happen?

ignore me i can't read

yes in 2ish weeks i think. gonna try to order the first bit this weekend


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Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 15 March 2019, 18:08:48
is this still going to happen?

ignore me i can't read

yes in 2ish weeks i think. gonna try to order the first bit this weekend


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Nice! We should more plate varieties. FR4 should be good for wireless too right?
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Fri, 15 March 2019, 18:09:53
is this still going to happen?

ignore me i can't read

yes in 2ish weeks i think. gonna try to order the first bit this weekend


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Nice! We should more plate varieties. FR4 should be good for wireless too right?

Yeah. these won't have any copper so they should be fine for RF. If you want a design made, PM me here or on Discord (that preferably) and we can work something out.


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Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: iEatPuppers on Fri, 29 March 2019, 19:43:13
Will these be sold through your site?
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Fri, 29 March 2019, 19:43:42
Will these be sold through your site?

yes


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Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: Darknight00z on Tue, 16 April 2019, 13:33:51
Can these be shipped out with pcb orders?
Title: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Tue, 16 April 2019, 13:36:13
Can these be shipped out with pcb orders?

If you want to bundle them together sure. Just PM me on here/discord or email me (hineybushkeyboards@gmail.com) before ordering and I can sort that our for you.

I have the Jane v2 FR4 plates on hand - waiting for boxes to put them up for sale. They should be up tomorrow, I'll post a link here! I'm only selling them via my site as well.

The rest will be taken care of as I can. I'm hoping to get some proto Jane v1/orion/etc ones done this week or next and ordered.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: mrpetrov on Tue, 16 April 2019, 16:29:37
Hiney, do you know if these will fit the KBD8x MkI or MKII? Many thanks as always!
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Tue, 16 April 2019, 16:39:52
Hiney, do you know if these will fit the KBD8x MkI or MKII? Many thanks as always!

I dont believe so atm.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Tue, 16 April 2019, 23:28:13
Red, blue and matte black ANSI MX FR4 plates in stock for jane v2/koala/whale https://hineybush.com/collections/all-products/products/fr4-plates-mx?variant=26669909672000
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 17 April 2019, 21:37:27
Red, blue and matte black ANSI MX FR4 plates in stock for jane v2/koala/whale https://hineybush.com/collections/all-products/products/fr4-plates-mx?variant=26669909672000

lemme just buy a whale real quick
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 27 May 2019, 18:32:08
Hey, are there any plans to stock the V1 plates soon?  :)
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 27 May 2019, 18:32:47
Hey, are there any plans to stock the V1 plates soon?  :)

Hoping to have em at the same time as the h87 extras, so early July.


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Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 27 May 2019, 18:40:33
Hey, are there any plans to stock the V1 plates soon?  :)

Hoping to have em at the same time as the h87 extras, so early July.


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Awesome! Thanks, will keep an eye out for that.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: Themonkeyswrench on Tue, 25 June 2019, 21:45:09
Hey, are there any plans to stock the V1 plates soon?  :)

Hoping to have em at the same time as the h87 extras, so early July.


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Do you plan to have the Alps v1 plates as well when these become available?
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Wed, 26 June 2019, 10:53:25
Hey, are there any plans to stock the V1 plates soon?  :)

Hoping to have em at the same time as the h87 extras, so early July.


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Do you plan to have the Alps v1 plates as well when these become available?

Yeah, I will likely do two layouts (AEK and WKL/tsangan) in black for each to start. I hope to order these in the next couple days so I can have them ready.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: sJ1N on Thu, 27 June 2019, 08:33:50
do you plan on sending out some plates to proxies like you did with the PCBs ? or will these be sold through your site only this time around ?
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 27 June 2019, 10:00:16
do you plan on sending out some plates to proxies like you did with the PCBs ? or will these be sold through your site only this time around ?

No plans to send to proxies atm, but I can reach out to them!
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 27 June 2019, 10:07:46
do you plan on sending out some plates to proxies like you did with the PCBs ? or will these be sold through your site only this time around ?

No plans to send to proxies atm, but I can reach out to them!

Current plan for the Jane v1/Orion/Mech27/Mira/Moon (for my own recordkeeping)

MX: ANSI only and ISO only
ANSI: Gloss red/blue and matte black
ISO: Matte black (not enough demand for more than one color imo)
Normal basic MX TKL layouts, so split backspace/right shift/6.25u/WKL/Tsangan
No split space
Half plate will be matte black/ANSI only (you can mod it for ISO if you want, it's FR4 ez to cut just don't breathe the dust in)

Alps: AEK (with both normal and rotated switch cutouts on the FN row) and WKL/Tsangan
Matte black for all
Long right shift/left shift only
No split backspace/space


Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: Themonkeyswrench on Thu, 27 June 2019, 15:44:54
do you plan on sending out some plates to proxies like you did with the PCBs ? or will these be sold through your site only this time around ?

No plans to send to proxies atm, but I can reach out to them!

Current plan for the Jane v1/Orion/Mech27/Mira/Moon (for my own recordkeeping)

MX: ANSI only and ISO only
ANSI: Gloss red/blue and matte black
ISO: Matte black (not enough demand for more than one color imo)
Normal basic MX TKL layouts, so split backspace/right shift/6.25u/WKL/Tsangan
No split space
Half plate will be matte black/ANSI only (you can mod it for ISO if you want, it's FR4 ez to cut just don't breathe the dust in)

Alps: AEK (with both normal and rotated switch cutouts on the FN row) and WKL/Tsangan
Matte black for all
Long right shift/left shift only
No split backspace/space


Words can't describe how happy and thankful I am that you are going to make the Alps plates. I'm hoping to snag 3 and I wasn't looking forward to trying to source them.

<3 u
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:47:13
Anyone have an input on whether FR4 plates feel/sound better with linears or tactiles?
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: romevi on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:36:40
Interested in gloss blue for Jane v1.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:49:30
Interested in gloss blue for Jane v1.

ill have em up next week!


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Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 18 July 2019, 09:42:37
Anyone have an input on whether FR4 plates feel/sound better with linears or tactiles?

I've got FR4 on my tactile (orange alps) and linear (green alps) and both sound great. I don't think you can beat brass for linears, but tactiles in FR4 are the best I've heard.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: beamingrobot on Thu, 18 July 2019, 19:23:52
Anyone have an input on whether FR4 plates feel/sound better with linears or tactiles?

Feels nice, sounds a pitch sharper compared to a poly halfplate for me.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: hineybush on Sun, 21 July 2019, 21:36:06
The Jane v1/Duck Orion/Mech27/Mira/Moon plates will be avail tomorrow starting at 7PM EDT on my site! Alps, MX and MX Half.
Title: Re: [IC] FR4 (PCB material) plates for TKLs
Post by: romevi on Sun, 21 July 2019, 22:11:55
The Jane v1/Duck Orion/Mech27/Mira/Moon plates will be avail tomorrow starting at 7PM EDT on my site! Alps, MX and MX Half.


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