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Title: Questions about the Blue and Black Switches
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:52:38: I just bought a bunch of MX Black switches and I'm a little concerned. I have a switch that binds when I press down on it, solder on the legs, bent legs, and different logos. This leads me to believe they're desoldered from old boards. I was under the impression I was buying new switches. I think the description on the switch page (http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/keyboard-switches) is misleading. Is there anyway that description can be fixed? And is it possible for me to get a refund on these switches?

(http://i.imgur.com/ZUUT915.jpg)
Top switch has just the three cherry Cherry Corp Logo. Bottom switch has the three cherry + leaf Cherry Corp logo.

(http://i.imgur.com/8XcYNw7.jpg)
Bent pin and solder on the MX Black that I just bought. A brand new MX white is on top, I'm using this as a comparison.
Title: Re: Questions about the Blue and Black Switches
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:56:45: I had someone else's Blues in my possession from the same source, and they were also in the same condition: all had solder on the pins, some pins were twisted/bent from desoldering. That did not bother me too much, based on the low price, but most of the switches did not click properly (either no click or the click was augmented). Some switch stems did not move freely in the housing and would stick a bit.

It would be nice to put it on the sale page description that these switches are not new or else some other way to describe their exact condition.
Title: Re: Questions about the Blue and Black Switches
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 23:39:08: Same here, two different logos and solder on the pins(top of one of the switches is pretty badly scratched as well). I am not too bothered because I only got two and didn't have any use for them but if I had gotten a whole boards worth I would be pretty upset.

(http://i.imgur.com/YniGxfd.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VMjF7rj.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/WAWVaNG.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9bPC1Vb.jpg)
Title: Re: Questions about the Blue and Black Switches
Post by: i3oilermaker on Sat, 19 April 2014, 00:22:50: Please PM me for support - I will be overly accommodating since I understand there are certainly some quality issues here.
Title: Re: Questions about the Blue and Black Switches
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 21 April 2014, 20:55:00: So are used switches being sold?
Title: Re: Questions about the Blue and Black Switches
Post by: strict on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:26:10: If there is solder on the legs its 99% chance its used, unless for some bizarre reason someone felt like tinning the legs. The logo with the bigger font is typically, but not always, seen on vintage blacks. You should be able to find some more info in this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38921.0).
Title: Re: Questions about the Blue and Black Switches
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:46:09: Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:52:38
This leads me to believe they're desoldered from old boards.

Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 21 April 2014, 20:55:00
So are used switches being sold?

Yes. For now it seems to be the case.

In related news i3oilermaker refunded me and is working on a fix so I consider this a case of odd products and good customer service. I hope that TechKeys will get this fixed soon.
Title: Re: Questions about the Blue and Black Switches
Post by: pmh1410 on Sun, 04 May 2014, 02:34:54: Oh my God, i was bought 300pcs Black switchs from Techkey 1 month ago, i think that Cherry black new switch :(
now, i still wait my switch arrive to check this problem >.<
Title: Re: Questions about the Blue and Black Switches
Post by: i3oilermaker on Sun, 04 May 2014, 13:40:12: I was assured by the manufacturer that the switches are new, and the tinning on the leads was to avoid oxidation.

I'm not sure I fully believe them, so I will be overly accommodating to anyone who is unhappy with their purchase.
Title: Re: Questions about the Blue and Black Switches
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 04 May 2014, 13:53:05: Quote from: i3oilermaker on Sun, 04 May 2014, 13:40:12
I was assured by the manufacturer that the switches are new, and the tinning on the leads was to avoid oxidation.

I'm not sure I fully believe them, so I will be overly accommodating to anyone who is unhappy with their purchase.

So the manufacturer of the cherry labeled switches isn't Cherry Corp?
Title: Re: Questions about the Blue and Black Switches
Post by: i3oilermaker on Sun, 04 May 2014, 23:23:08: Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 04 May 2014, 13:53:05
Quote from: i3oilermaker on Sun, 04 May 2014, 13:40:12
I was assured by the manufacturer that the switches are new, and the tinning on the leads was to avoid oxidation.

I'm not sure I fully believe them, so I will be overly accommodating to anyone who is unhappy with their purchase.

So the manufacturer of the cherry labeled switches isn't Cherry Corp?

I was told they were - I'm afraid i was lied to.
Title: Re: Questions about the Blue and Black Switches
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 05 May 2014, 06:27:00: Quote from: i3oilermaker on Sun, 04 May 2014, 23:23:08
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 04 May 2014, 13:53:05
Quote from: i3oilermaker on Sun, 04 May 2014, 13:40:12
I was assured by the manufacturer that the switches are new, and the tinning on the leads was to avoid oxidation.

I'm not sure I fully believe them, so I will be overly accommodating to anyone who is unhappy with their purchase.

So the manufacturer of the cherry labeled switches isn't Cherry Corp?

I was told they were - I'm afraid i was lied to.

:(
Title: Re: Questions about the Blue and Black Switches
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 May 2014, 07:21:22: Sorry to hear that i3oilermaker :(
Title: Re: Questions about the Blue and Black Switches
Post by: pmh1410 on Mon, 12 May 2014, 05:33:41: Many thanks I3oilermaker, i received my Black sw today, Switchs are gread condition but desoldered from new or like new keyboard. I think that it's good function after lubed and stickered with resonable price ;P

Best Regards!

pmh1410