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FilterKeys Setter... for a faster key repeat (in Windows)

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brubaker:
Hi!
I asked myself if something like a left-click repeat function on the mouse is also possible with a similar Windows function? I would be very grateful for an answer to the mouse click topic.

Warm regards
brubaker

Irex:
Does anyone know what the default Key Repeat settings are in Windows 7? I plan on setting it with FilterKeys, but if it proves problematic, is it possible to do it through Windows? An internet search proved fruitless. I have never experienced a problem with FilterKeys in the past but ever since messing with the settings on a recent install, it seems like my IBM Model M just isn't typing like it was prior to doing it; e.g. it seems shift and control keys sometimes are not triggered and if I am typing quickly, it's prone to mistakes. After some playing around it's almost back to normal but it isn't perfect. Not sure whether a Windows 7 update is to blame or, if it's something with how my MB inputs PS/2 signals, or if I am just losing my motor skills along with my sanity. I have yet to try it with my only USB keyboard (Matias Ergo Pro).

To the OP—I would like to thank you personally for this program. I have been using it heavily since 2013—I dare say that it has been one of, if not the greatest, productivity enhancer(s) that I've used. You see, I am a big fan of 'caret browsing', both for the web and PDFs, and if I want to read and something in detail, I will enable it and hold the right arrow key in and scroll; FilterKeys doubled the speed of this process. It may seem like a useless thing to do, but if you are reading dry textbooks on material that you could care less about, it really allows you to read at a consistent rate without the mind going astray. This program has saved me countless dozens of hours (prior, I would just read through as the repeat rate for any keyboard, even my Maltron, was just too slow) and I would even go as far as crediting it for helping me get through my last (nearly 3, now?) years of college. Again, thank you from the bottom of my heart for uploading it to this site, otherwise I would have never found it.

grif:
Hello! I have downloaded this tool and it indeed works to my liking. I would like to know what the default values are, as in what the default Windows values are for filter keys. IF anyone could let me know!! Thank you.

smitham:

--- Quote from: Etran on Thu, 11 April 2013, 06:16:19 ---Thanks for responding guys!

Based on what i know i doubt that SC2 has any anti repeat delay/rate changing or anti macro feature though. I know of certain casual players that use macros without any problems while playing SC2, a terran friend of mine has a macro for making a ton of marines by just one button click and he has used this for quite some time now. Macros are strictly forbidden in SC2 (stated very clearly by Blizzard) so a non casual SC2 player would never consider using a macro for anything in SC2, and that obv includes myself. And thus, we are obv never seeing a serious player showing up at a lan event with some macro functions to make use of, because that player would be disqualified in an instance. But based on what i know it seems macros work perfectly fine in SC2, and for casuals it seems to be more commonly used than one would think. Also i know that players have been able to play SC2 with a way higher repeat rate than the windows control panel max when using a keyboard with options for increased repeat rates, such as the Zowie Celeritas. But Keyboad King and FilterKeys (not macro software, just repeat delay/rate tweaking) as stated dont work well at all with SC2, while macro softwares seemingly work just fine. So i dont think the reason as for why Keyboard King and FilterKeys dont work too well with SC2 has to do with some purposely made anti repeat delay/rate tweaking or anti macro feature by Blizzard, but that it instead has do to with some programming conflict between the program and the software.

Obviously an increased repeat rate or a lowered repeat delay is not a macro by any means, but since it can give an edge it is reasonable to question whether it should be allowed or not. I came across a post in a blizzard forum asking about tweaking repeat rate/delay values beyond the windows control panel (http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2794772806five nights at freddy's) but he got no response by Blizzard. Blizzard has stated very clearly that macros are not allowed, but on the matter of tweaking repeat delay/rate it seems they have been silent. But not too many people have been asking about it anyways.

In any case, i am still interested in getting FilterKeys or some other repeat delay/rate tweaking software to work for SC2 so if anyone here figures anything out let me know. What i would change is basically just lowering the repeat delay from 250 ms to about 120 ms (it cant be too low because that would make it so that i would double click control groups and other things by mistake). That would make it so that i would save significant time troughout a game when combining all the small moments where i save time. The repeat rate max in the control panel can stay the same as i dont find it as vital. But yea, lowering repeat delay also has its downsides, thats why one can select different levels of it in the control panel anyways.

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