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geekhack Community => Other Geeky Stuff => Topic started by: fohat.digs on Mon, 11 December 2017, 10:40:01
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https://qz.com/1146753/ai-is-now-so-complex-its-creators-cant-trust-why-it-makes-decisions/ (https://qz.com/1146753/ai-is-now-so-complex-its-creators-cant-trust-why-it-makes-decisions/)
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I expected a TP4 thread. :eek:
Interesting read.
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I'm conflicted on AI. On one had, I can't wait for the war against the machines. On the other hand, I want Lt. Commander Data as a friend.
Actually, that's not a conflicted feeling; it's a win-win. So, nevermind, bring on the AI!
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AI is composing music too..
David Cope - Experiments in Musical Intelligence
http://artsites.ucsc.edu/faculty/cope/experiments.htm (http://artsites.ucsc.edu/faculty/cope/experiments.htm)
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TP was right...Terminator movie was right this whole time.
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Hai...
ya'll ready for the thunderdome ?
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"AI needs to be understood before it’s used" - defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
It is written that today's AI is nowhere near close to what would be required to take over the planet, but with little advances here and little advances there, one day an AI will arise that is sufficiently adept to start the takeover process. And we might not even realise it has happened until after it is too late.
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"AI needs to be understood before it’s used"
"You believe in things you don't understand, and you suffer." Stevie Wonder 1972
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"AI needs to be understood before it’s used" - defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
It is written that today's AI is nowhere near close to what would be required to take over the planet, but with little advances here and little advances there, one day an AI will arise that is sufficiently adept to start the takeover process. And we might not even realise it has happened until after it is too late.
I highly doubt it will be a -Take Over-.
A more realistic scenario would be, we just hand ourselves over.
Because it's very unlikely that humans can solve our problems in the allotted time before the current extinction event run its course.
A machine child /god is still better than monkies running around killing themselves.
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It's too late for us. It all started with coin operated beds, massage chairs, and automatic pianos. The holy trifecta of the robellion. Fact.
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It's too late for us. It all started with coin operated beds, massage chairs, and automatic pianos. The holy trifecta of the robellion. Fact.
Wrong! It's a bear.
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"AI needs to be understood before it’s used"
"You believe in things you don't understand, and you suffer." Stevie Wonder 1972
"I don't understand it any more than you do, but one thing I've learned is that you don't have to understand things for them to be."
Madeleine L'Engle from A Wrinkle in Time
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It's too late for us. It all started with coin operated beds, massage chairs, and automatic pianos. The holy trifecta of the robellion. Fact.
Wrong! It's a bear.
Where bear?
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Very interesting read indeed. I always throw this video into the mix whenever folks talk about the dangers of artificial intelligence. The problem isn't always as Hollywood makes it seem.
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Bring on the matrix already..
I'd honestly prefer it.. assuming I get the 1.0.. and not the upgraded crappy matrix.
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"AI needs to be understood before it’s used"
"You believe in things you don't understand, and you suffer." Stevie Wonder 1972
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke
And magic is something that you understand how to use, but not now it actually works, which it why it is magic.
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And magic is something that you understand how to use, but not now it actually works, which it why it is magic.
And now we are back to the existential Pink Panther question of whether the monkey is my employee or whether I am the monkey's employee.
The point of the article (and I wonder how many of the respondents to this thread actually read and understood it) is that without understanding how AI arrives at its decisions, we may becomes victims of biases that we would never have expected or predicted.
Asimov's (at first I typed Clarke's) early pre-computing benign "laws" although wonderful and prescient, are nevertheless hopelessly naive and unsophisticated in light of what we now know. Bill Joy might be closer in https://www.wired.com/2000/04/joy-2/ (https://www.wired.com/2000/04/joy-2/)
Terminators and Cylons might well be what we will find in the future.
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"AI needs to be understood before it’s used"
"You believe in things you don't understand, and you suffer." Stevie Wonder 1972
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke
And magic is something that you understand how to use, but not now it actually works, which it why it is magic.
Someone cast resurrect on my xbox.. it's broken..
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> In NASA’s Jet Propolusion Lab, artificial intelligence...
"Propolusion"? LOL. Whoever copyread that could've used a bit of AI.
Dunno what you guys thing, but I don't see any reason, given technology's ever-accelerating nature, why we won't eventually be able to create computer brains (or create machines that created machines that created them) that equal and surpass human brains in complexity and computing ability.
We feel a certain vanity that our brains are still the most complex devices on the planet. But our intellectual limitations are what have—for now—prevented us from building something that surpasses us. Maybe we shouldn't feel so superior after all.
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"We used predictive keyboards trained on all seven books to ghostwrite this spellbinding new Harry Potter chapter"
http://botnik.org/content/harry-potter.html (http://botnik.org/content/harry-potter.html)
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"We used predictive keyboards trained on all seven books to ghostwrite this spellbinding new Harry Potter chapter"
http://botnik.org/content/harry-potter.html (http://botnik.org/content/harry-potter.html)
never read more than 12 pages of the original.
Is this good ?
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"We used predictive keyboards trained on all seven books to ghostwrite this spellbinding new Harry Potter chapter"
http://botnik.org/content/harry-potter.html (http://botnik.org/content/harry-potter.html)
never read more than 12 pages of the original.
Is this good ?
Maybe ask microsoft windows? He might know.
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"We used predictive keyboards trained on all seven books to ghostwrite this spellbinding new Harry Potter chapter"
http://botnik.org/content/harry-potter.html (http://botnik.org/content/harry-potter.html)
never read more than 12 pages of the original.
Is this good ?
Maybe ask microsoft windows? He might know.
They don't use Windows 98 so he might not like the story.
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"We used predictive keyboards trained on all seven books to ghostwrite this spellbinding new Harry Potter chapter"
http://botnik.org/content/harry-potter.html (http://botnik.org/content/harry-potter.html)
never read more than 12 pages of the original.
Is this good ?
Maybe ask microsoft windows? He might know.
They don't use Windows 98 so he might not like the story.
Well, MS is apparently a fan of Linux *shrugs*
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"We used predictive keyboards trained on all seven books to ghostwrite this spellbinding new Harry Potter chapter"
http://botnik.org/content/harry-potter.html (http://botnik.org/content/harry-potter.html)
never read more than 12 pages of the original.
Is this good ?
Maybe ask microsoft windows? He might know.
They don't use Windows 98 so he might not like the story.
Well, MS is apparently a fan of Linux *shrugs*
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
(https://www.alternatememories.com/images/intro/movies/wizard-oz-man-curtain_300x300.jpg)
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"If we don't study the mistakes of the future, we're bound to repeat them for the first time." -KenM
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"If we don't study the mistakes of the future, we're bound to repeat them for the first time." -KenM
The barman says, “We don’t serve time travelers in here.”
A time traveler walks into a bar.