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IBM Model F XT review (IBM capacitive buckling springs)
« on: Sat, 23 July 2016, 10:57:34 »
Today we look at a true classic. The IBM Model F XT. Hope you enjoy it, guys! :)

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Re: IBM Model F XT review (IBM capacitive buckling springs)
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 26 July 2016, 15:00:55 »
Although I'm sure I'd love the feel of the model f, I know I could never get used to the sound.  The model m is already too pingy for me!  The typing demo at the end sounds like a spring factory exploding.

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Re: IBM Model F XT review (IBM capacitive buckling springs)
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 26 July 2016, 17:38:02 »
Although I'm sure I'd love the feel of the model f, I know I could never get used to the sound.  The model m is already too pingy for me!  The typing demo at the end sounds like a spring factory exploding.
Yeah, the sound is rather polarising. Even many people who like the typing sound of the M can't stand the F, I've found.

Personally, I think it's amazing :D .
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Re: IBM Model F XT review (IBM capacitive buckling springs)
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 27 July 2016, 15:31:26 »
I'd like to get the AT model personally, I love the M but it's just a little too heavy.

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Re: IBM Model F XT review (IBM capacitive buckling springs)
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 27 July 2016, 16:21:07 »
I'd like to get the AT model personally, I love the M but it's just a little too heavy.
The M is great. The F is goddamn amazing. There's no contest really xD .
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Re: IBM Model F XT review (IBM capacitive buckling springs)
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 06 August 2016, 11:13:21 »
Great video, these reviews are amazing, it's like david attenborough narrating the most obscure bbc documentary ever. I check my thrift stores and older schools getting rid of stuff in the basement but have yet to come across a model m or f :/

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Re: IBM Model F XT review (IBM capacitive buckling springs)
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 06 August 2016, 11:26:48 »
"Here we see the Model M in the wild..." 8)
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Re: IBM Model F XT review (IBM capacitive buckling springs)
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 07 August 2016, 00:37:14 »
My Model M keyboards seem quite loud, at least compared to the various Cherry keyboards I have around here.

The Model M you used for comparison seems positively silent in comparison.

Given the difference in volume between the M and the F in your video, I can only assume that the F is as loud as f***!
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Re: IBM Model F XT review (IBM capacitive buckling springs)
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 07 August 2016, 04:43:28 »
My Model M keyboards seem quite loud, at least compared to the various Cherry keyboards I have around here.

The Model M you used for comparison seems positively silent in comparison.

Given the difference in volume between the M and the F in your video, I can only assume that the F is as loud as f***!
It is xD . It's probably the second loudest keyboard I own xD .

The camera I use is not great at picking up soft noises tbh, hence why I don't use it for the typing demos.
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Re: IBM Model F XT review (IBM capacitive buckling springs)
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 07 August 2016, 05:19:11 »
"Here we see the Model M in the wild..." 8)

."...as heavy as a ****ing brick..."
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Re: IBM Model F XT review (IBM capacitive buckling springs)
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 07 August 2016, 05:24:01 »
"Here we see the Model M in the wild..." 8)

."...as heavy as a ****ing brick..."

Heavier :))
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: IBM Model F XT review (IBM capacitive buckling springs)
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 14 August 2016, 16:01:45 »
I guess BS is gonna be my next goal

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Re: IBM Model F XT review (IBM capacitive buckling springs)
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 26 September 2016, 08:38:43 »
Thanks for the review! and the other videos you  have made. I just got into trying out vintage keyboards and I have to say that they are extremely unique compared to the current array of switch options.

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Re: IBM Model F XT review (IBM capacitive buckling springs)
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 20:16:31 »
I guess BS is gonna be my next goal

If you call yourself a "Geekhacker" then it's every mechanical keyboard fan's goal, to own and use a Model-F in their lifetime.

Otherwise you just become like all the rest, another slobbering, Cherry Docile pretending to be a keyboard fanatic  8) .

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Re: IBM Model F XT review (IBM capacitive buckling springs)
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 20:41:40 »
Just finished putting my xt back together, forgot how much I loved this thing. Nothing tops my cream alps omnikey though.

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Re: IBM Model F XT review (IBM capacitive buckling springs)
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 28 September 2016, 00:35:54 »
Just finished putting my xt back together, forgot how much I loved this thing. Nothing tops my cream alps omnikey though.
to be fair the Omnikey and the Model F are comparable in build quality. I would say it's somewhere between an M and an F.

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Re: IBM Model F XT review (IBM capacitive buckling springs)
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 20 April 2017, 05:16:53 »
Even though I don't own an XT and don't plan to, I love this review, and come back to see it now and then.

Showing the XT's literally heavier than a brick—hah!

And how Chyros points out that everything about the XT is divine, except for the small fact that it's virtually unusable to anyone who's accustomed to a modern layout... Why does that remind me of dating?

So, go ahead, ridicule me for posting to a thread from September. I don't care. This is an awesome thread that doesn't deserve to die, just like the immortal—but for the most part, unusable—board it venerates.
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Re: IBM Model F XT review (IBM capacitive buckling springs)
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 21 April 2017, 10:13:00 »
For just regular typing and data-entry the layout looks pretty usable IMO. I could see myself writing an essay on it after getting used to where the keys are.