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Title: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Moderation Team on Mon, 28 April 2014, 20:14:14
Vendor subforums are a privilege granted to select vendors to advertise on geekhack, post news updates about their upcoming goods, and provide customer support by answering questions and resolving transaction issues.  Vendor subforums provide free advertisement space, and as such, vendors are expected to give something in return to the community through investing some reasonable amount of time and effort in maintaining their subforums and keeping some positive presence on our site.

Which brings us to the current state of Originative as a Commercial Vendor on geekhack.  Given Sherryton's absence from geekhack for many months and complete lack of customer support on his subforum, along with many outstanding orders that Originative is yet to fulfill, we are re-evaluating Originative's eligibility for keeping their own vendor subforum on geekhack.  We have concluded that Originative has been abusing their vendor privileges by using their free advertisement space but not putting in any effort in assisting our members with their orders, practically ignoring them, which is clear from multiple discussions on this subforum.  We are therefore taking the following actions against Originative:

Please feel free to respond to this announcement with your comments.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 20:18:21
I agree. Something needed to be done or it's basically setting a precedence that vendors can do what they please with no recourse.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 28 April 2014, 20:19:21
just watch him respond now to everything :))
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 28 April 2014, 20:36:50
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Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 28 April 2014, 20:38:10
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Thank You Based Mods
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 20:40:36
Good.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Heezy on Mon, 28 April 2014, 21:14:12
just watch him respond now to everything :))

 :))
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 23:42:01
We need answers, Sherry.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 28 April 2014, 23:49:54
I put him on my blacklist last time he did this.  Lesson learned.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 29 April 2014, 01:18:49
Even a simple "Hi guys, I'm too busy to post on GH right now but I'll respond as soon as I can" would go a long way towards alleviating the frustration.

As it is, we don't know whether an order will be fulfilled.  Recent orders were, older orders were not, or were incorrectly supplied and never rectified.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: jufa on Tue, 29 April 2014, 19:49:29
yes agree, waiting for respond  :)
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 20:31:50
just watch him respond now to everything :))
He will most likely.



The bad part about this whole thing is that originative offers products that aren't really available anywhere else. So it puts their customers in a tough situation, risk buying from them, or not get hard to find items such as dolch keycaps, korean springs, and kmacs.

A comparable company would be EK, with topre keyboards, but they seem to have great support.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 20:43:39
Speaking of that, why doesn't EK have a subforum? I've always wondered. Sorry if it's a "bad" question to ask...
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:01:39
Speaking of that, why doesn't EK have a subforum? I've always wondered. Sorry if it's a "bad" question to ask...

I think there was some drama with Brian from EK at some point. People treated him poorly (ripster?), possibly when they quit selling filcos. I remember reading about it on the old geekhack. He had a presence at one point.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:11:42
Speaking of that, why doesn't EK have a subforum? I've always wondered. Sorry if it's a "bad" question to ask...

I think there was some drama with Brian from EK at some point. People treated him poorly (ripster?), possibly when they quit selling filcos. I remember reading about it on the old geekhack. He had a presence at one point.

Ripster treat people poorly?  Never.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:16:20
Speaking of that, why doesn't EK have a subforum? I've always wondered. Sorry if it's a "bad" question to ask...

I think there was some drama with Brian from EK at some point. People treated him poorly (ripster?), possibly when they quit selling filcos. I remember reading about it on the old geekhack. He had a presence at one point.

Ripster treat people poorly?  Never.

I'm not saying it was Ripster, or I could be totally wrong my memory seems pretty suspect these days. But Ripster did come to mind.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 17:25:01
Speaking of that, why doesn't EK have a subforum? I've always wondered. Sorry if it's a "bad" question to ask...

I think there was some drama with Brian from EK at some point. People treated him poorly (ripster?), possibly when they quit selling filcos. I remember reading about it on the old geekhack. He had a presence at one point.

If memory serves (and if what I've been told is accurate), it was mostly just backlash because EK 1) stopped selling Filco and 2)didn't sell the FC700r. A lot of it did come from retspiR, but it wasn't just him.

Either way, GH and EK don't really have a good relationship, and I doubt that there's much we can do to get them a subforum if they don't want one.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 02 May 2014, 16:04:12
So... has anyone actually emailed him to let him know this is happening?
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Beca on Fri, 02 May 2014, 16:11:25
So... has anyone actually emailed him to let him know this is happening?
i feel like he'd occasionally go on gh, but just doesn't sign in. i wonder how many messages he has :eek:
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 02 May 2014, 16:13:15
So... has anyone actually emailed him to let him know this is happening?
i feel like he'd occasionally go on gh, but just doesn't sign in. i wonder how many messages he has :eek:

He probably does, but since he was only given a week to respond, it is only fair to make sure he's aware. I'm not defending his actions or saying that he deserves anything from GH, but you can't have a trial and not invite the accused.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 02 May 2014, 16:13:43
Guys, he's obviously in hawaii on permanent vacation with WFD, bavman and TheProfosist.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Beca on Fri, 02 May 2014, 16:19:16
So... has anyone actually emailed him to let him know this is happening?
i feel like he'd occasionally go on gh, but just doesn't sign in. i wonder how many messages he has :eek:

He probably does, but since he was only given a week to respond, it is only fair to make sure he's aware. I'm not defending his actions or saying that he deserves anything from GH, but you can't have a trial and not invite the accused.
tbh it makes sense that they wouldn't notify him on external sites, since the trial is only contingent on how active he is on gh.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 02 May 2014, 16:27:37
This is correct--we need our vendors to be actively checking their subforums and posting updates.  The situation is pretty clear already, and if a vendor is contacted directly and asked to post, it just goes around the problem of not posting voluntarily.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 02 May 2014, 16:59:21
I disagree; the goal is to provide an ultimatum that either 1) forces him to take responsibility for his actions or 2) results in termination of his sub-forum privileges.

If the ultimatum is not actually delivered to him, a third outcome is possible, in which he never sees this thread and loses his sub-forum privileges because of that.

In my opinion, the decision to terminate his sub-forum should be based on whether he is willing to take responsibility for his actions, not whether he happens to read GH this week.

Now, I agree that he should be reading this forum. Moreover, considering the extent of his transgressions, I think it would have been completely justified to kick him off the forum without any kind of review process. But, now that one is happening, he should be notified of it. If he is not, then the decision hinges on something that is secondary to the real issue at stake, as I have pointed out. And, it seems a bit disingenuous to me to not even inform him.

Also, part of him taking responsibility includes fulfilling all the outstanding orders to GH members. If his forum is deleted, GH loses the main leverage it had to help out its members in this regard. All this to say that his activity on the forum is crucial, but I disagree that it's the main issue at stake. The main issue is him taking responsibility and paying his debts. And the best way to bring that about is to make sure he knows about this thread.

Anyway, I am biased. Originative has good products and I think everyone would win if he would shape up. To me it's the best outcome.

But I will not interfere, and I will say no more on the matter.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Candyflip on Fri, 02 May 2014, 17:12:36
Guys, he's obviously in hawaii on permanent vacation with WFD, bavman and TheProfosist.
With Tupac and Elvis
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 02 May 2014, 17:14:08
"geekhack.org", by which i mean the website, any owners, staff, or anyone else administratively or legally associated with it, are categorically not responsible for the actions of independent vendors who post messages, public or private, on geekhack.org
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 02 May 2014, 17:36:13
So did someone email him the link to this thread?
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 03 May 2014, 01:58:14
According to stats, Sherry was last logged in 2014-01-04 02:49:19 and last posted  2014-01-01 11:28:26.

Unless he is browsing as a guest ...

If he was, and I was he, I would be pretty upset with the negative comments here.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 03 May 2014, 06:56:45
According to stats, Sherry was last logged in 2014-01-04 02:49:19 and last posted  2014-01-01 11:28:26.

Unless he is browsing as a guest ...

If he was, and I was he, I would be pretty upset with the negative comments here.

I don't think sheraton cares anymore. :(

Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 03 May 2014, 06:59:52
According to stats, Sherry was last logged in 2014-01-04 02:49:19 and last posted  2014-01-01 11:28:26.

Unless he is browsing as a guest ...

If he was, and I was he, I would be pretty upset with the negative comments here.

I don't think sheraton cares anymore. :(

He never cared
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 03 May 2014, 07:14:25
According to stats, Sherry was last logged in 2014-01-04 02:49:19 and last posted  2014-01-01 11:28:26.

Unless he is browsing as a guest ...

If he was, and I was he, I would be pretty upset with the negative comments here.

I don't think sheraton cares anymore. :(

He never cared

 :'(

I'm sure all those who were in the dolch skype chat thought he did, clearly it was just market research.  :-\
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: lightsout714 on Sat, 03 May 2014, 13:47:35
According to stats, Sherry was last logged in 2014-01-04 02:49:19 and last posted  2014-01-01 11:28:26.

Unless he is browsing as a guest ...

If he was, and I was he, I would be pretty upset with the negative comments here.
The comments are well deserved. No one is just taking shots to be a jerk.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 03 May 2014, 14:19:27
According to stats, Sherry was last logged in 2014-01-04 02:49:19 and last posted  2014-01-01 11:28:26.

Unless he is browsing as a guest ...

If he was, and I was he, I would be pretty upset with the negative comments here.

I don't think sheraton cares anymore. :(

He never cared

He wrote me a personal thank you post it for my first order :-X
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 03 May 2014, 14:22:36
According to stats, Sherry was last logged in 2014-01-04 02:49:19 and last posted  2014-01-01 11:28:26.

Unless he is browsing as a guest ...

If he was, and I was he, I would be pretty upset with the negative comments here.

How does that even matter?  4 months of silence, numerous orders not filled or only partially filled and you're focussing on how he might feel?
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 05 May 2014, 18:18:26
Goodbye Originative.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 05 May 2014, 18:20:04
gg
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 05 May 2014, 19:07:04
According to stats, Sherry was last logged in 2014-01-04 02:49:19 and last posted  2014-01-01 11:28:26.

Unless he is browsing as a guest ...

If he was, and I was he, I would be pretty upset with the negative comments here.

I don't think sheraton cares anymore. :(

He never cared

He wrote me a personal thank you post it for my first order :-X

yeah, I got a very nice note written in my package when I ordered my replica ESCs
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Moderation Team on Mon, 05 May 2014, 20:56:24
It has now been one week since the statement of Originative's vendor review was posted, and given the current situation, we will proceed with the following punitive action against Originative:

This subforum will be archived in 24 hours.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 05 May 2014, 21:06:09
Welp, bye.

Will originative be added to the list of banned vendors? Or just this subforum?
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 05 May 2014, 21:11:51
Welp, bye.

Will originative be added to the list of banned vendors? Or just this subforum?

Considering neither operator is allowed to do commercial things, I'd say originative is banninated.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 05 May 2014, 21:23:45
RIP :/

shoutout to the dolch skype crew...those were the days... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 05 May 2014, 21:29:42
It was fun while it lasted - so much promise.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 05 May 2014, 21:31:37
It was fun while it lasted - so much promise.
Sherry had the resources needed to make it successful, and the demand was there. The execution was just incredibly poor. Sherry dun goofed.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 05 May 2014, 21:36:24
Would they ever get a chance again? I would really love for originative to get their act together and come back/be allowed back.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 05 May 2014, 21:49:30
Would they ever get a chance again? I would really love for originative to get their act together and come back/be allowed back.

won't happen bro.. :/
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 05 May 2014, 21:52:22
Would they ever get a chance again? I would really love for originative to get their act together and come back/be allowed back.

won't happen bro.. :/
:'(
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 05 May 2014, 21:53:49
Would they ever get a chance again? I would really love for originative to get their act together and come back/be allowed back.

won't happen bro.. :/
:'(

It technically *happened* with gmk dolch, like around june-ish (If I remember right..) of last year. It was like a miracle. But this time the fall out was worse so....expect nothing to come back
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 05 May 2014, 21:58:42
It was fun while it lasted - so much promise.

Yeah it was.  I got a few things from him before he went AWOL and now it would pay to be patient and wait for BunnyLake or Ivan to run a real Group Buy soon, consisting of thorough GMK goodness.

By the way Imsto is running his Group Buy BSP, pbt, key-set at this very moment.

I don't think we will miss out on any future key-sets coming out of Germany  :thumb: .
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 05 May 2014, 22:01:12
Would they ever get a chance again? I would really love for originative to get their act together and come back/be allowed back.

won't happen bro.. :/
:'(

It technically *happened* with gmk dolch, like around june-ish (If I remember right..) of last year. It was like a miracle. But this time the fall out was worse so....expect nothing to come back
Oh well, I wasn't around back then so I don't know anything about that. :(

This is justified, but it's kind of bittersweet.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 05 May 2014, 22:21:47
RIP in peace
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 05 May 2014, 22:39:28
It was fun while it lasted - so much promise.
Sherry had the resources needed to make it successful, and the demand was there. The execution was just incredibly poor. Sherry dun goofed.

Shame about his Handarbeit :(
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 05 May 2014, 22:47:31
Something sherry has always done that really annoyed me and my preferences was that he would always pick out something from each classic set and make something different from the original. With his first sets it was the infamous tabs (dat tab) and then with GMK dolch it was his print screen and pause.....when I noticed that on my gmk dolch it made me so mad....and I decided to just sell it because It was honestly bothering me too much.

Sherry was an honest cool guy when I used to talk to him on skype a lot. he knows a TON, taught me a lot of good information, but he's just disappeared o.O

Hazeluff is a solid bro, I still stand by that.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: sherryton on Tue, 06 May 2014, 03:24:38
I would like to start off by apologizing for my absence and for the lack of communication in that time.

During this time, I was on a trip overseas, I was busy with personal matters, and at some point, I had become sick.  I had also delegated the task of shipping orders during that time frame, and was unavailable to provide any insight whenever problems were to occur.

I understand that many of you are upset, and I have decided to take action.  I will be coordinating with others to improve customer support in order to provide more prompt service.  Hopefully we will be able to answer any queries you may have in a timely manner.

What I have done was really self-fish and unacceptable.  The mass pile up of emails, from the trip,  really demotivated me, and I sincerely apologize. I am still studying and a lot of this is still a learning process for me. From here on out, I hope to improve the company with more support, updates, and myself.  In the future, I will put forth my best efforts to ensure you are not blacked out from what is going on.

Some of the contacts can be found here:

andy@originativeco.com
eugene@originativeco.com
johnson@originativeco.com
sheraton@originativeco.com
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Beca on Tue, 06 May 2014, 03:26:22
I would like to start off by apologizing for my absence and for the lack of communication in that time.

During this time, I was on a trip overseas, I was busy with personal matters, and at some point, I had become sick.  I had also delegated the task of shipping orders during that time frame, and was unavailable to provide any insight whenever problems were to occur.

I understand that many of you are upset, and I have decided to take action.  I will be coordinating with others to improve customer support in order to provide more prompt service.  Hopefully we will be able to answer any queries you may have in a timely manner.

What I have done was really self-fish and unacceptable.  The mass pile up of emails, from the trip,  really demotivated me, and I sincerely apologize. I am still studying and a lot of this is still a learning process for me. From here on out, I hope to improve the company with more support, updates, and myself.  In the future, I will put forth my best efforts to ensure you are not blacked out from what is going on.

Some of the contacts can be found here:

andy@originativeco.com
eugene@originativeco.com
johnson@originativeco.com
sheraton@originativeco.com

just whoaaa :eek:
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Tue, 06 May 2014, 03:49:49
what does this mean?  :-X
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 06 May 2014, 05:39:26
I would like to start off by apologizing for my absence and for the lack of communication in that time.

During this time, I was on a trip overseas, I was busy with personal matters, and at some point, I had become sick.  I had also delegated the task of shipping orders during that time frame, and was unavailable to provide any insight whenever problems were to occur.

I understand that many of you are upset, and I have decided to take action.  I will be coordinating with others to improve customer support in order to provide more prompt service.  Hopefully we will be able to answer any queries you may have in a timely manner.

What I have done was really self-fish and unacceptable.  The mass pile up of emails, from the trip,  really demotivated me, and I sincerely apologize. I am still studying and a lot of this is still a learning process for me. From here on out, I hope to improve the company with more support, updates, and myself.  In the future, I will put forth my best efforts to ensure you are not blacked out from what is going on.

Some of the contacts can be found here:

andy@originativeco.com
eugene@originativeco.com
johnson@originativeco.com
sheraton@originativeco.com


Good to hear from you!

I know a lot of people are still going to be mad, but it is nice to know you are ok and still working.

I think the biggest thing you can do is to just communicate with your customers - your vendor forum here is a great place for that (if you are allowed to keep it).  Simply popping in from time to time, even just to say "Hi guys, sorry, really busy right now but I'll get back to you as soon as I can" or posting the occasional status update (e.g. "gone on holiday, back in June") would go a long way towards alleviating the frustration that some people have been feeling.

That you have been quickly fulfilling some recent orders has given a lot of us hope that things are on the mend.

I know you probably don't want or need to hear all this, and most likely know it already, but hopefully things are just going to get better and better moving forwards :)
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 06 May 2014, 06:05:43
what does this mean?  :-X

Considering it was after the deadline given I don't know that it should mean anything. It's what I would call a 'hail mary' last ditch effort which amounts to nothing until proven otherwise.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 06 May 2014, 06:32:07
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Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 06 May 2014, 08:46:49
He's alive :o
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Tue, 06 May 2014, 09:44:55
just watch him respond now to everything :))

mind = blown
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 06 May 2014, 10:38:17
Rest in pieces.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 06 May 2014, 15:47:23
He lives!

Your own well being is important, sort yourself out as soon as possible, then put your full efforts into cleaning up this mess.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 06 May 2014, 16:00:28
He lives!

Your own well being is important, sort yourself out as soon as possible, then put your full efforts into cleaning up this mess.

While your own well being is important, updates are essential.  Given that this is a trend with Sherry, I doubt he'll earn the goodwill back.  I liked him when I talked with him, but I'd never buy from him since there's too much risk involved.

Now that doesn't mean he shouldn't make things right and try to earn it back.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 06 May 2014, 16:03:25
Guys, it took the threat of his vendor forum being removed and he even waited until the very last minute to respond. He doesn't give a crap about this place.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 06 May 2014, 16:15:30
So, what's going to happen in about 7 hours?  :blank:
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 06 May 2014, 16:28:40
So, what's going to happen in about 7 hours?  :blank:

By my math the week expired yesterday at 20:14:14  :-\
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 06 May 2014, 16:46:21
By my math the week expired yesterday at 20:14:14  :-\

There were 24 hours added for archival.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 06 May 2014, 16:49:53
By my math the week expired yesterday at 20:14:14  :-\

There were 24 hours added for archival.

 :)) ::)
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 06 May 2014, 16:54:09
Well would have been weird if this whole thread would have simply disappeared after the week imo...
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 06 May 2014, 16:54:59
Well would have been weird if this whole thread would have simply disappeared after the week imo...

nuke's have happened before.... :-*
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 06 May 2014, 16:56:37
nuke's have happened before.... :-*

True, true :-X
Anyways, it's only 3 hours left.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 06 May 2014, 16:59:10
nevermind I was reading the statistics wrong derp....

it'd only be 164 posts  :-X
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 06 May 2014, 17:00:52
Just so we are clear, when things get archived those posts still count right? I don't want to lose over 4% of my posts.  >:D

Of all things... ha

Yes it'll still count. Unless the moderator's archival section doesn't count towards posts. :P
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Zombly on Wed, 07 May 2014, 11:12:43
It's to bad I was getting impatient with the v2 GB for Lightsaver, but don't want to risk for the V1 from Mr. Sherry
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: shawn o on Wed, 07 May 2014, 19:26:55
Ordered from him a couple weeks ago and got the order quickly.

Just because he isn't "here" means nothing.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: fknraiden on Wed, 07 May 2014, 19:43:44
Ordered from him a couple weeks ago and got the order quickly.

Just because he isn't "here" means nothing.

I think the couple hundred people with 5 month unfilled orders would say otherwise. I had my own issues and they ended up being resolved over the course of 3 months and 20 emails. But I think a contingency for remaining a listed vendor would be at minimum filling all back orders or refunding unavailable items. Just my 2¢
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: epzy on Wed, 07 May 2014, 19:44:40
Ordered from him a couple weeks ago and got the order quickly.

Just because he isn't "here" means nothing.

Yes, we already know that he's back in business. However, people are still waiting for things they paid for a really long time ago, AFAIK. Also, in order to keep your Vendor status/forum here on GH you need to provide updates.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 07 May 2014, 19:45:33
So no more lube from sherry? Wonder when he's going to remove that from his site
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 07 May 2014, 19:51:27
as stated in the geekhackers.org thread (now in the artisan forum), originative is no longer a geehackers reseller.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 07 May 2014, 20:07:48
Ordered from him a couple weeks ago and got the order quickly.

Just because he isn't "here" means nothing.

Yeah totally who cares about all the people that got ripped off. ;)
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: rayuki on Wed, 07 May 2014, 21:46:34
I put him on my blacklist last time he did this.  Lesson learned.

Agreed, so did I. I wonder how many other people got out right scammed by them and now this. Guy is a snake but some idiots will always believe in the oil they sell.

Wouldn't believe a word he said in the bs post either.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 08 May 2014, 00:04:39
So no more lube from sherry?

I'll send you some KY to remove that vicious gape bleed from your wallet  ;D .
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: shawn o on Thu, 08 May 2014, 13:23:07
I was simply saying that his site is active, regardless of his Geekhack status, and that I received my order promptly.

Not sure about previous transactions or issues with them, unfortunate if true. But, if I ordered something online and didn't receive it within a reasonable amount of time (2-3 weeks MAX), I'd contact them. If I didn't receive and response AND the item right away, I'd immediately dispute the charge.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Sifo on Thu, 08 May 2014, 14:53:17
Looks like I'm building someone a lightsaver that was received from Sherry within a week or two. No problems here.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: feizor on Thu, 08 May 2014, 16:19:07
I put him on my blacklist last time he did this.  Lesson learned.

Agreed, so did I. I wonder how many other people got out right scammed by them and now this. Guy is a snake but some idiots will always believe in the oil they sell.

Wouldn't believe a word he said in the bs post either.

I don't think snake oil is oil sold by snakes but that would be off topic.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 08 May 2014, 21:01:10
The proof will be in the pudding. I am curious whether he is actually going to work to catch up on his backlog, or if he's going to disappear again now that his subforum is gone.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 May 2014, 23:01:29
The proof will be in the pudding. I am curious whether he is actually going to work to catch up on his backlog, or if he's going to disappear again now that his subforum is gone.

Since he really only addressed doing better with 'future' orders I'd says all those past orders that were never delivered or delivered with problems are all up in the air still.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 08 May 2014, 23:38:17
Always excuses on this forum.  Always the same.  Sickness.  Family trouble.  Traveling overseas.  Always.

People who run an honest business don't just drop everything and disappear.  They find a replacement, they make arraignments, they deal with their customers.

Think about the businesses you deal with in real life.  Could you imagine hearing a story like that from the corner dry cleaners?  No.  You only hear that stuff from shysters.

Honest, decent people are forgiving.  Sociopaths use that to their advantage.

I've said this same rant before.  My blacklist saved me this time.  We all know who the bad eggs are.  Terminate Originative.  Terminate RedLine.  Toss the guys who screwed over so many on the 2nd Phantom buy.  etc, etc.
Title: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT - Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: phoenix1234 on Fri, 09 May 2014, 11:30:59
I feel sad when I saw a lot of group buys and orders are not what GHers expected recently.
Nobody wants to lose money/time but it seems bad things keep happening.

Today, I received my Otaku order from Sheraton.
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* potato picture

At least, until now, he did not own me anything.

The disappearance of Sheraton was wrong and it will decrease his credibility. However, he admitted his mistake so I hope that he will fulfill orders for all people or at least you and him can find an amicable solution for all pending issues. It's the most important thing to do now.

Please don't confuse my message as an encouragement but a testimony for an individual order delivery so if you can have pending order, please contact him to seek for a friendly solution.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: vivalarevolución on Wed, 14 May 2014, 14:26:45
Always excuses on this forum.  Always the same.  Sickness.  Family trouble.  Traveling overseas.  Always.

People who run an honest business don't just drop everything and disappear.  They find a replacement, they make arraignments, they deal with their customers.

Think about the businesses you deal with in real life.  Could you imagine hearing a story like that from the corner dry cleaners?  No.  You only hear that stuff from shysters.

Honest, decent people are forgiving.  Sociopaths use that to their advantage.

I've said this same rant before.  My blacklist saved me this time.  We all know who the bad eggs are.  Terminate Originative.  Terminate RedLine.  Toss the guys who screwed over so many on the 2nd Phantom buy.  etc, etc.

I agree.  It is not that hard to let people know if you will not be available for some time.  Get on the Internet, type up a post about your situation, refund the orders that will not be delivered.  Done.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 17:26:16
I just ordered a Cyrillic set and it shipped within an hour. FWIW.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 15 May 2014, 17:43:48
I just ordered a Cyrillic set and it shipped within an hour. FWIW.

When he's back, he's back!

The concern a lot of people have is that he will disappear without notice again.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 25 May 2014, 05:21:32
I just sent him another email about my rgby groupbuy order asking for status. if he cared he would tell us wtf is going on with the groupbuys. yes your getting your orders for things he actually has but he has been holding on to our cash for a very long time with zero information provided.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 25 May 2014, 10:00:12
I just sent him another email about my rgby groupbuy order asking for status. if he cared he would tell us wtf is going on with the groupbuys. yes your getting your orders for things he actually has but he has been holding on to our cash for a very long time with zero information provided.

Well, as we are discussing in the Originative Cyrillic thread (would link but on Tapatalk) he's starting to flake out even on stuff he has in stock. He's ignoring emails from me and anoxy. He's not following through on what he said he'd do.

I'm going to send some emails to those other contacts he listed in this thread.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 30 May 2014, 03:47:16
All of the items from order #1392 have now been shipped:

1x Red Esc - GMK Red Esc (White Legends)
1x GMK RGB (Group Buy) - RGB (White)
They are being shipped via USPS to the following address:

The tracking number for these items is ##############.
Click here to see the status of your shipment.

Please allow some time for the status of the shipment to correctly display at the above address.

Thank you for ordering from Originative!


I understand it is a groupbuy and they take time. But zero communication is b.s.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Latin00032 on Sat, 14 June 2014, 13:36:10
I got my purple key caps from Originative today.

They came through in the end.

But, the communication skills are lacking.

I'm happy with my purple set.

I just need to put them on a keyboard.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: intelli78 on Sat, 14 June 2014, 13:38:20
I ended up getting my stuff too, after emailing andy@originativeco.com. Sherry never responded to me.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: biochem on Sat, 14 June 2014, 17:03:12
Pleasant surprise here also!

Purple key caps arrived today. Ordered in December and had given up hope.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 14 June 2014, 17:03:38
WHich set is the purple one?
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: billnye on Sat, 14 June 2014, 17:09:01
WHich set is the purple one?
This one I think.

http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/colorful-doubleshots
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Fire Brand on Sat, 14 June 2014, 17:17:25
I would also like to chime in that I placed and received a order within the space of a week and that was to the UK, also contacted someone there to which they responded to me within a day.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Latin00032 on Sat, 14 June 2014, 18:11:00
It seems like they are making traction. This is good.

But, how long will it last?
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 14 June 2014, 18:12:54
It seems like they are making traction. This is good.

But, how long will it last?

Emboldened for emphasis.  Until Sherry becomes consistent and updates people, I see no reason to try and validate his business or give it praise. 
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 14 June 2014, 19:40:02
It seems like they are making traction. This is good.

But, how long will it last?

Emboldened for emphasis.  Until Sherry becomes consistent and updates people, I see no reason to try and validate his business or give it praise.

+1

Even if he comes out with the greatest set of all time ever
Title: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: CK Briefs on Sat, 14 June 2014, 20:04:06
It seems like they are making traction. This is good.

But, how long will it last?

Emboldened for emphasis.  Until Sherry becomes consistent and updates people, I see no reason to try and validate his business or give it praise.

+1

Even if he comes out with the greatest set of all time ever

Double-shot titanium, backlight-compatible cherry keyset with sideprint dyesub !?!

You sure you wouldn't jump on the originative train with this announcement?

Edit: Needs more PBT
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Fire Brand on Sun, 15 June 2014, 08:33:47
It seems like they are making traction. This is good.

But, how long will it last?

Emboldened for emphasis.  Until Sherry becomes consistent and updates people, I see no reason to try and validate his business or give it praise.

+1

Even if he comes out with the greatest set of all time ever

Double-shot titanium, backlight-compatible cherry keyset with sideprint dyesub !?!

You sure you wouldn't jump on the originative train with this announcement?

Edit: Needs more PBT
How do you even double shot titanium O.o
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 15 June 2014, 11:18:48
magic
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: CK Briefs on Sun, 15 June 2014, 13:36:36

It seems like they are making traction. This is good.

But, how long will it last?

Emboldened for emphasis.  Until Sherry becomes consistent and updates people, I see no reason to try and validate his business or give it praise.

+1

Even if he comes out with the greatest set of all time ever

Double-shot titanium, backlight-compatible cherry keyset with sideprint dyesub !?!

You sure you wouldn't jump on the originative train with this announcement?

Edit: Needs more PBT
How do you even double shot titanium O.o

One day...
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: feizor on Mon, 16 June 2014, 06:53:30
I've been tempted to buy stuff from Originative but their sketchiness has really put me off.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: cruk on Fri, 20 June 2014, 20:38:21
I still have yet to receive the BF Otaku set and emails are not being replied to.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 20:39:50
Try emailing andy@originativeco.com. he helped me in the past.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: bnp70kr on Wed, 09 July 2014, 22:53:35
They're selling colorful double-shot even with promotion!
But, they are neither shipping my goods ordered last year, nor replying email.
I can't understand it at all.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: osi on Wed, 09 July 2014, 23:04:01
File some BBB complaints. Not sure the extent of what they can do but at least it is something
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: sheknet on Thu, 10 July 2014, 19:37:57
I swear this is the worst online purchase experience! He just replied once in May and then ignored again... Nearly wait for a year...
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:48:22
He's going on holiday again, according to the latest newsletter.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:54:05
He's going on holiday again, according to the latest newsletter.

I thought he was always on holiday.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: quochung1989 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 04:55:38
I think nope. He said his vacation from  18th August to 2nd September
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: digi on Wed, 17 September 2014, 18:05:11
Has anyone ordered from Originative recently? Did it go well? I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on a set he has but I'm hesitant with all these war stories..
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: rainb1ood on Wed, 17 September 2014, 18:05:48
I've ordered the green and purple Taihao keys and they all shipped and arrive within 1 week

Here are the tracking info I had:
https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction_input?qtc_tLabels1=9400111899561563465135
https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction_input?qtc_tLabels1=9400111899561316135155
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Fire Brand on Thu, 18 September 2014, 08:23:43
I also ordered and it was shipped within a day, arrived very safely in a medium sized very well packaged box :)

Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Sent on Thu, 18 September 2014, 08:26:02
Just put in an order.  See if I'm just as lucky.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 18 September 2014, 08:28:10
Did anyone ever get the 7x black space bar? Mine have never shown up.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Hypersphere on Thu, 18 September 2014, 08:59:28
I ordered the PBT RGB set a few weeks ago. It arrived promptly. No problems.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Fire Brand on Thu, 18 September 2014, 10:51:48
Just put in an order.  See if I'm just as lucky.

Hopefully but they seem to be on the ball at the moment, if not I don't think I ever said but the facebook page they seem to repsond fast on that, even had a nice chat with someone who worked for them, and they responded very fast, might be worth a try on that route if anything went wrong.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Sent on Thu, 18 September 2014, 17:30:34
Got my shipping notice really early this morning.  Surprised with how fast that was.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: ComradeSniper on Thu, 09 October 2014, 19:50:52
Ordered some caps yesterday and got a shipping notification today.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 09 October 2014, 19:56:19
I'm interested to hear from people that have had long-standing unfulfilled orders with Originative. Are they doing anything to work through the backlog?
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 09 October 2014, 20:02:34
I'm interested to hear from people that have had long-standing unfulfilled orders with Originative. Are they doing anything to work through the backlog?
I've emailed all the addresses they have listed multiple times to either get my spacebars or a refund and haven't ever gotten a reply.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Johan on Fri, 10 October 2014, 00:26:59
I'm interested to hear from people that have had long-standing unfulfilled orders with Originative. Are they doing anything to work through the backlog?
I've emailed all the addresses they have listed multiple times to either get my spacebars or a refund and haven't ever gotten a reply.
Same here :( I didn't order spacebars but a win key set.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: shawn o on Sun, 26 October 2014, 16:14:20
Anyone else preorder Dolch? They said 8-12 weeks back on July 10th....
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 26 October 2014, 19:37:53
Anyone else preorder Dolch? They said 8-12 weeks back on July 10th....

The web site still says that.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 26 October 2014, 19:40:57
according to recent reviews they have been very communicative as of late, perhaps you should just send them an email and clarify the matter
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 26 October 2014, 19:43:37
Should have went with Ivan for Dolch.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 26 October 2014, 19:44:25
according to recent reviews they have been very communicative as of late, perhaps you should just send them an email and clarify the matter
Funny they have never answered one of the many emails I have sent to multiple addresses they give to contact them over orders they have never fulfilled.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 26 October 2014, 19:49:21
Should have went with Ivan for Dolch.
maybe he missed the GB, maybe he didn't like the ISO legends/symbol mods :shrug:

Funny they have never answered one of the many emails I have sent to multiple addresses they give to contact them over orders they have never fulfilled.
guess they just decided to completely ignore any communication related to the backlog of orders they never fulfilled :/ when i found out about this, i decided i'll never make any purchases from them
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: fknraiden on Sun, 26 October 2014, 20:06:43
Should have went with Ivan for Dolch.

Just depends on the wait and worry is worth having text mods instead of full symbol
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 26 October 2014, 20:43:08
Just depends on the wait and worry is worth having text mods instead of full symbol

I don't know about you but to me getting a set seems better than getting nothing and still spending the money.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 26 October 2014, 21:23:41
Just depends on the wait and worry is worth having text mods instead of full symbol

I don't know about you but to me getting a set seems better than getting nothing and still spending the money.

i was gonna say...
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: shawn o on Sun, 26 October 2014, 22:13:15
I ordered a color pack. I didn't like the base set being so dissimilar to the real thing so I passed.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: deci on Sun, 26 October 2014, 22:58:53
I missed Ivan's GB so I'm waiting on a Dolch set as well.

I emailed them a while ago for updates but did not receive a reply.

The site keeps getting updates however and now there are different options for buying the dolch set than when I purchased it so hopefully a little patience will pay off.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: bnp70kr on Thu, 30 October 2014, 08:15:11
How on earth can he be still selling something? It's really funny.
All you guys purchasing from him, GOOD LUCK!! LOL
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: epzy on Thu, 30 October 2014, 08:17:34
How on earth can he be still selling something? It's really funny.
All you guys purchasing from him, GOOD LUCK!! LOL

Took him 2 days to ship my most recent order, no problems.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Johan on Thu, 30 October 2014, 08:21:36

How on earth can he be still selling something? It's really funny.
All you guys purchasing from him, GOOD LUCK!! LOL

Shipped my most recent order in 2 days, no problems.
Meanwhile others haven't received orders from over a year ago. I've tried to contact originative through every service they use but no reply.
But you got your order so its safe. Right?
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: osi on Thu, 30 October 2014, 08:24:21
You gents are brave. I'd never trust ordering from that site :>
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: epzy on Thu, 30 October 2014, 08:43:15

How on earth can he be still selling something? It's really funny.
All you guys purchasing from him, GOOD LUCK!! LOL

Shipped my most recent order in 2 days, no problems.
Meanwhile others haven't received orders from over a year ago. I've tried to contact originative through every service they use but no reply.
But you got your order so its safe. Right?

Exactly.

/s
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 30 October 2014, 08:46:13
Did anyone ever receive the black sets sold a year ago? Or the black spacebars??
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Johan on Thu, 30 October 2014, 08:50:04

Did anyone ever receive the black sets sold a year ago? Or the black spacebars??
I don't think anyone got the black friday orders. I wouldn't know though, I only ordered the modifier/winkey set, which was delayed...
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: kebby on Fri, 31 October 2014, 16:26:55
Was tempted to pre-order the Dolch since I missed the GB and am now really wanting it. If there is no communication or any compensation for many people who've ordered a long time ago I don't think anyone should be ordering anyone from this outfit.

Even if they happen to honor orders placed currently they need to make good on what they've promised earlier. Scammers stay in business by cheating only as much as they can get away with.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 31 October 2014, 19:19:50
Tempted to pick up a cyrillic set. Got my rgb but you just never know.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 31 October 2014, 20:13:02
Tempted to pick up a cyrillic set. Got my rgb but you just never know.

I was lucky enough to get mine, but he's starting to get extra sketchy again.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Sent on Fri, 31 October 2014, 20:16:15
Tempted to pick up a cyrillic set. Got my rgb but you just never know.

I was lucky enough to get mine, but he's starting to get extra sketchy again.

This is just all part of his master plan.  I was lucky enough to get what I ordered but I probably wouldn't order anything again given recent complaints.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 01 November 2014, 13:02:06
So what's the next step of his master plan?
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: shawn o on Sun, 02 November 2014, 09:09:38
Just placed my order for a Dolch base set. Based on the 8-12 week timeframe starting July 10th, he should have them soon? If not, plenty of time for me to file a chargeback with my CC company if the set end up not coming.

Should be no issue with ordering from any site. Just don't be an idiot and wait months and months before complaining to your CC company for non-receipt of goods. Chargeback window is 60-120 days max. After that you are SOL.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Sent on Tue, 04 November 2014, 22:42:27
So what's the next step of his master plan?

I wish I knew, Sir Blue.  I wish I knew. :(
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: radio_killah on Mon, 10 November 2014, 18:23:23
Glad I found this thread before ordering from Originative. Definitely going to be avoiding that site. Super sketchy. Sheraton was responding to emails for a bit today though but my initial one was like a week ago.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 23 November 2014, 15:41:39
I've emailed sherryton a few times asking about the when GMK Dolch set will ship and each time I get a later estimate  :rolleyes:

I was assured that they'd receive the sets and begin shipping, and that the GMK Esc Pack would be up for sale the first week of November, but that's obviously not the case...
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Hypersphere on Sun, 23 November 2014, 19:10:13
I am sad to see that Originative appears to be having some troubles. Some time ago, I had some excellent interactions with them, and I bought one of my nicest keycap sets -- the Olivetti classic beige with blue legends, a really beautiful set.

Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 23 November 2014, 19:26:52
I am sad to see that Originative appears to be having some troubles. Some time ago, I had some excellent interactions with them, and I bought one of my nicest keycap sets -- the Olivetti classic beige with blue legends, a really beautiful set.

Yeah, I got all my GMK sets from there.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: ComradeSniper on Fri, 19 December 2014, 18:26:51
Originative's cyber monday update said "Dolch is ready in a week." Still no sign of Dolch on my end (order is still marked "unfulfilled"); looks like it'll be next year before it shows up. I'll be happy to get my hands on it period. :/
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: frostylove on Tue, 23 December 2014, 20:59:24
Same situation, mailed several times and no response at all.
Will never order anything from this site only hope to get my sanctuary set before Feb
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 23 December 2014, 21:09:36
Any of you who are owed stuff actually called the phone number to see if they answer?
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: renne on Mon, 29 December 2014, 20:09:37
same. emailed several times and received nothing.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 29 December 2014, 20:11:03
same. emailed several times and received nothing.
I think he is taking an extended vacation again, Christmas through the new year.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: billnye on Mon, 29 December 2014, 20:12:29
I propose we all stop buying from him.

If people keep giving him money regardless of whether he ships or not he is going to keep scamming everyone.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: renne on Mon, 29 December 2014, 20:12:49
same. emailed several times and received nothing.
I think he is taking an extended vacation again, Christmas through the new year.
Hope your assumption is real, so that we can get some information after the new year.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 29 December 2014, 20:29:02
I propose we all stop buying from him.

If people keep giving him money regardless of whether he ships or not he is going to keep scamming everyone.
People never learn.

 There are still unfulfilled orders from a year ago.

I have tried to tell anyone that would listen, this is Sheraton's MO, he fulfills enough orders to make people think he is doing better then disappears for months at a time and there are always people who get burnt.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Candyflip on Mon, 29 December 2014, 23:21:46
same. emailed several times and received nothing.
I think he is taking an extended vacation again, Christmas through the new year.
A whole year passed? damn..
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 29 December 2014, 23:28:18
same. emailed several times and received nothing.
I think he is taking an extended vacation again, Christmas through the new year.
A whole year passed? damn..
Meant he is probably taking the whole month off because of christmas and new years.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 29 December 2014, 23:38:24
same. emailed several times and received nothing.
I think he is taking an extended vacation again, Christmas through the new year.
A whole year passed? damn..
Meant he is probably taking the whole month off because of christmas and new years.

Then a few more because of **** you.

At least that's the way he seems to operate to me.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: frostylove on Mon, 29 December 2014, 23:53:52
WARNING: Anyone who's reading this thread, please STOP considering any deal with Originative. Just follow it and don't ask why.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 30 December 2014, 00:47:45
I planned on buying Cryllic from there, but since Originitive has such a bad rep, now I don't know where I could find a set for incase I pick one up in the future.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Candyflip on Tue, 30 December 2014, 02:28:34
Meant he is probably taking the whole month off because of christmas and new years.

Didn't he dissapeared the same way last year around the holidays, or was it some random time of the year?
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: shawn o on Tue, 30 December 2014, 05:10:19
Contact your CC company. Dispute the charge and they will immediately refund you. Time limit for a chargeback ranges between 120-180 days.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Danboard on Tue, 30 December 2014, 15:39:40
I just did a charge back for the Dolch set, since I'm close to my 120 day mark just to be safe. If he actually comes around and delivers I'll just reorder if I have to.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Hypersphere on Tue, 30 December 2014, 15:49:31
Somewhat off topic, but has anyone here bought anything from IMSTO during the past three months or so? I placed an order for 2 sets of keycaps on November 9, and I still have not received them. I have made email inquiries, and each time I got a brief message saying, "waiting for process". However, more recently, there was a GB for IMSTO keycaps on Massdrop, so perhaps everything is okay.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 30 December 2014, 15:51:30
Somewhat off topic, but has anyone here bought anything from IMSTO during the past three months or so? I placed an order for 2 sets of keycaps on November 9, and I still have not received them. I have made email inquiries, and each time I got a brief message saying, "waiting for process". However, more recently, there was a GB for IMSTO keycaps on Massdrop, so perhaps everything is okay.

IMSTO has mentioned on Chinese forums that he's having some issues, but nothing more than that

as far as i know, something in his production line broke but it should be fixed now

just keep bugging him, he can be slow sometimes, especially since shipping from china takes like a month
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: renne on Tue, 30 December 2014, 15:59:07
Somewhat off topic, but has anyone here bought anything from IMSTO during the past three months or so? I placed an order for 2 sets of keycaps on November 9, and I still have not received them. I have made email inquiries, and each time I got a brief message saying, "waiting for process". However, more recently, there was a GB for IMSTO keycaps on Massdrop, so perhaps everything is okay.
IMSTO is not a scammer. Don't worry too much about your order. you will get it after he solves his issues.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Hypersphere on Tue, 30 December 2014, 16:08:05
Many thanks for the encouraging comments about IMSTO!
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: shawn o on Tue, 30 December 2014, 22:55:15
Pre-order for Dolch started July 10th. Expected wait was 8-12 weeks. Now at the 23 week mark and not a peep.

Dolch Group Buy here was submitted to GMK July 17th and they caps were delivered to the USA by September 22nd.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: renne on Sat, 17 January 2015, 00:16:25
what does this mean?
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Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 17 January 2015, 00:31:26
what does this mean?
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Sheraton does this when he gets behind and takes a 'vacation' to help himself relax.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 17 January 2015, 00:46:23
what does this mean?
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Being cynical, one might say that it means that the shop will never open seeing as how it seems that some orders will never be shipped.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 17 January 2015, 00:52:49
what does this mean?
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Being cynical, one might say that it means that the shop will never open seeing as how it seems that some orders will never be shipped.

Part of me hopes that's the truth.  Too many people have been ****ed over by sherry.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Johan on Sat, 17 January 2015, 04:54:59
He ****ed off again? That's lovely.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: bueller on Sat, 17 January 2015, 06:04:51
Jesus Christ people, stop buying off him. You've been warned so many damn times.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 17 January 2015, 19:52:59
Jesus Christ people, stop buying off him. You've been warned so many damn times.

All the ones sending Sherry money are absolute NOOBS that is why he keeps making profit of people like that.  He sure as hell can't push his dodgey services upon the experienced here on Geekhack because we have all seen the way he operates, never changes his way.

The NOOBS are extra ripe pickings because they just joined here hence have no idea what this place is about.  First off always trust the old timers like Imsto, BunnyLake, JDCarpe, Codyeatworld and Margo Baggins since they have run multiple Group Buys and have delivered on all of them.  Have never personally LOST any money with these guys whilst sometimes the keys take a little longer in delivery, it will all arrive to your front door with no pathetic excuses like Sherry is so well known for.

There is a reason why his company (services) got the boot off this forum hence for all the noobs here go and read up about it, instead of relying on us oldies to keep re-writing the same old script concerning Sherry's dodgey practices.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: braydencrown on Tue, 20 January 2015, 02:44:57
Good to know about this discussion.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Rewind on Fri, 15 May 2015, 09:33:16
Hey guys, sorry for the necro post.

Just wanted to give a heads up that I just received the Dolch and CMYW mod sets that I ordered on 08/28/2014.

I didn't hear anything about it since I pre-ordered. I sent an email to sheraton@originativeco.com a few weeks ago and he replied with a tracking number.

I will not use Originative ever again, but I want to give some hope to the people still waiting on products.

More
(http://i.imgur.com/mTLbmTE.jpg)
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 May 2015, 09:42:06
Did anyone ever receive any of the black Friday sets? Not sure what all was actually produced.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 15 May 2015, 09:44:46
Did anyone ever receive any of the black Friday sets? Not sure what all was actually produced.

I never saw any posts indicating that anyone had received anything from that.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Johan on Fri, 15 May 2015, 09:47:02
I got a giftcard from my blackfriday order, haven't used it yet.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: luckyryan333 on Mon, 18 May 2015, 08:02:37
Hey guys, sorry for the necro post.

Just wanted to give a heads up that I just received the Dolch and CMYW mod sets that I ordered on 08/28/2014.

I didn't hear anything about it since I pre-ordered. I sent an email to sheraton@originativeco.com a few weeks ago and he replied with a tracking number.

I will not use Originative ever again, but I want to give some hope to the people still waiting on products.

More
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mTLbmTE.jpg)

OMG! almost A YEAR...  :eek:

added this vendor to my don't-place-an-order-for-anything list.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: deci on Tue, 19 May 2015, 15:55:57
Hey guys, sorry for the necro post.

Just wanted to give a heads up that I just received the Dolch and CMYW mod sets that I ordered on 08/28/2014.

I didn't hear anything about it since I pre-ordered. I sent an email to sheraton@originativeco.com a few weeks ago and he replied with a tracking number.

I will not use Originative ever again, but I want to give some hope to the people still waiting on products.

More
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mTLbmTE.jpg)

Hey Rewind

Thanks so much for posting this.
I also had a pre-order from back in August that I had pretty much given up hope on, but after seeing your post, I messaged him on that email you linked.
Sure enough he responded back within 30 minutes and shipped it out the same day.

That was on Friday, and I had my full GMK dolch set in my hands on Monday.
*This set looks amazing by the way, as it has the text mods instead of the icon mods from the group buy (the icons look really nice as well, I just prefer the classic look).

So anyone else that has a Dolch order from Sherry should try to hit him up before he vanishes again.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Rewind on Tue, 19 May 2015, 16:01:13
Hey guys, sorry for the necro post.

Just wanted to give a heads up that I just received the Dolch and CMYW mod sets that I ordered on 08/28/2014.

I didn't hear anything about it since I pre-ordered. I sent an email to sheraton@originativeco.com a few weeks ago and he replied with a tracking number.

I will not use Originative ever again, but I want to give some hope to the people still waiting on products.

More
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mTLbmTE.jpg)

Hey Rewind

Thanks so much for posting this.
I also had a pre-order from back in August that I had pretty much given up hope on, but after seeing your post, I messaged him on that email you linked.
Sure enough he responded back within 30 minutes and shipped it out the same day.

That was on Friday, and I had my full GMK dolch set in my hands on Monday.
*This set looks amazing by the way, as it has the text mods instead of the icon mods from the group buy (the icons look really nice as well, I just prefer the classic look).

So anyone else that has a Dolch order from Sherry should try to hit him up before he vanishes again.
You're welcome! I'm happy to hear he also shipped your set. So weird that he only ships after requesting it...  :mad:

Anyways, the set is amazing. Perfect Dolch. Text mods, Scooped F&J without nipples, Sideprinted Prt Sc and Pause keys. Love it! :D
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: demik on Tue, 19 May 2015, 19:53:31
Fwiw epzy ordered a Russian set to be delivered to me and I got it next day. Granted I could have gone to pick it up but epzy is a douche and doesn't deserve pick up service.

I H8 YOU EPC
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:15:05
Like every order. I have received Dolch. I think we can believe sheraton.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:26:44
I finally got a response from sherry over an order he says he issued a refund for but it has yet to show up on my credit card a week later.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: quochung1989 on Fri, 29 May 2015, 01:11:40
I finally got a response from sherry over an order he says he issued a refund for but it has yet to show up on my credit card a week later.
Good signal, ray.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: HTN47 on Fri, 29 May 2015, 01:23:01
Hmmm... I just ordered a Cyrillic set from him last week and it arrived at my door within 2 days.
I actually live very close to him, about 50miles so I guess I could've just went and pick it up  :)
Either way, if you plan on purchasing anything at all I suggest emailing him first to check. I know that last month when I emailed him, he actually told me not to place any order yet because it was out of stock even though it says otherwise on his website. Just email him first, I think he might actually be back, I can't say for sure. Or... I might have just been VERY lucky
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 29 May 2015, 01:25:02
With Sherry, it's always luck.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: exitfire401 on Fri, 29 May 2015, 01:27:50
With Sherry, it's always luck.

Agreed. I was amazed that I got a shipping confirmation when I took a chance and ordered CMYW from him within 24 hours. Was even more amazed when it showed up within a week. Good stories are few and far between from that site, so unless you're alright with having to dispute a charge with your credit company, I wouldn't chance ordering from there.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: bueller on Fri, 29 May 2015, 01:52:15
With Sherry, it's always luck.

Yeah honestly you guys can post happy reports of getting stuff all you like, Sherry will turn around and start being dodgy again in a few months time.

AVOID.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: katushkin on Mon, 01 June 2015, 20:12:09
Hmmm... I just ordered a Cyrillic set from him last week and it arrived at my door within 2 days.
I actually live very close to him, about 50miles so I guess I could've just went and pick it up  :)
Either way, if you plan on purchasing anything at all I suggest emailing him first to check. I know that last month when I emailed him, he actually told me not to place any order yet because it was out of stock even though it says otherwise on his website. Just email him first, I think he might actually be back, I can't say for sure. Or... I might have just been VERY lucky

Damn... Wish I could get a set of those...
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: renne on Tue, 02 June 2015, 13:03:51
Here is my story.
I ordered the Dolch full set and the CMYW set from his website on Nov 2014. I kept sending emails to him once per week for around 6 months, but received nothing.
Then, I called my bank and cancelled the payment.
Last month, I finally received an email with tracking info from him. After 3 days waiting, I received all the products that I ordered 6 months ago.
Although it has been a long wait, I still decided to give him the money back.
And here is what he said:
Quote
I had a lot of troubles with the order. It's a pretty big order, and I sent the item to China to have them packaged. Unfortunately, they messed up a lot, and almost never sent it back. I hope you understand that I was trying to fix it the whole time.
Quote
I really do appreciate the feedback, friend. I am trying my best to get into it, but it's hard to start at some places like GH. I will try to push my web-site, and I will try to bring out a blog to showcase all my keyboards and stuff.
Believe his word or not? It's your choice.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: trizkut on Tue, 02 June 2015, 13:15:15
Are there still people waiting for their **** from black friday 2013?  That's all I really care to know
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: renne on Tue, 02 June 2015, 13:16:26
By the way.
It takes me 6 months to get my stuff from Sheraton.
And it takes me over 7 months, but still get nothing from Imsto.
As a Chinese, I don't want to say any bad word to our Chinese vendor, Imsto.
That's it.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 02 June 2015, 13:26:30
Are there still people waiting for their **** from black friday 2013?  That's all I really care to know

AFAIK, yes.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 02 June 2015, 13:28:18
I recommend people with outstanding issues to email sheraton@originativeco.com, at least he has replied a couple times in the last week, not quite a resolution yet but he has at least replied.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 02 June 2015, 15:12:17
"and I sent the item to China to have them packaged" - wouldn't he have had to package it to send it to China?  For what?  Someone to re-package it and send it back?
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 02 June 2015, 15:45:05
Quote
I am trying my best to get into it, but it's hard to start at some places like GH
it's good that he has been fulfilling outstanding orders (better late than never..) but he isn't as new to the scene as he seems to be implying. he of all people would know why the GH backlash exists
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Jokrik on Wed, 15 July 2015, 23:09:47
Just bringing up a bit of news,
I emailed Originative a few weeks ago regarding their new Hangul keyset
It seems that they reply very promptly now even with the example photos I asked

Moreover, apparently since I retract my intention to buy, they give me another personal follow up email with more photos of the actual product in hand
and it's not Sherryton anymore, maybe they have new management? which is better?

and, they've orange charcoal set on pre-order
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 15 July 2015, 23:24:07
Just bringing up a bit of news,
I emailed Originative a few weeks ago regarding their new Hangul keyset
It seems that they reply very promptly now even with the example photos I asked

Moreover, apparently since I retract my intention to buy, they give me another personal follow up email with more photos of the actual product in hand
and it's not Sherryton anymore, maybe they have new management? which is better?

and, they've orange charcoal set on pre-order
Did you get an idea of who's PBT it is? I'm guessing Gateron, but the description on the site was rather vague.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Jokrik on Wed, 15 July 2015, 23:35:54
Just bringing up a bit of news,
I emailed Originative a few weeks ago regarding their new Hangul keyset
It seems that they reply very promptly now even with the example photos I asked

Moreover, apparently since I retract my intention to buy, they give me another personal follow up email with more photos of the actual product in hand
and it's not Sherryton anymore, maybe they have new management? which is better?

and, they've orange charcoal set on pre-order
Did you get an idea of who's PBT it is? I'm guessing Gateron, but the description on the site was rather vague.

Not sure, but I think it's the Korean product one but dont quote me on that
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 15 July 2015, 23:42:38
Just bringing up a bit of news,
I emailed Originative a few weeks ago regarding their new Hangul keyset
It seems that they reply very promptly now even with the example photos I asked

Moreover, apparently since I retract my intention to buy, they give me another personal follow up email with more photos of the actual product in hand
and it's not Sherryton anymore, maybe they have new management? which is better?

and, they've orange charcoal set on pre-order
Did you get an idea of who's PBT it is? I'm guessing Gateron, but the description on the site was rather vague.

Not sure, but I think it's the Korean product one but dont quote me on that
Oh cool, maybe Leopold? Hopefully they'll actually post some pics soon, can't imagine they'll get too many orders w/o them.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: jerr on Mon, 27 July 2015, 17:41:38
I ordered a portal keycap set from them the other day...hope it arrives  :eek:
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: dutC4 on Fri, 31 July 2015, 13:57:32
 :blank:
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 15 August 2015, 05:05:45
I ordered a portal keycap set from them the other day...hope it arrives  :eek:

I ordered like $160 of Dolch from them a week ago and they shipped it off really quick. I know they're iffy though so I shipped it to the address of the place I'm going to be moving into in case they stalled for a while. It shipped quick enough that I wish I just shipped it to my current place so I could have it now though  :(

All these good reviews are making me want to do this more and more, especially now it seems like the GMK Cyrillic alphas won't go ahead.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: renne on Wed, 19 August 2015, 04:48:42
For all of you who are still following this thread, I just made another order of the Charred Orange set from originative.co last week, and I received it within 5 days. Good luck.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Herothereu on Wed, 19 August 2015, 18:08:53
In his Keychatter Interview he said things have improved.

https://www.keychatter.com/2015/08/17/interview-sheraton-of-originative-keyboards/
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 19 August 2015, 19:56:42
In his Keychatter Interview he said things have improved.

https://www.keychatter.com/2015/08/17/interview-sheraton-of-originative-keyboards/
Great interview! Really interesting for me having entered the scene only recently. Didn't know Sheraton was involved with "discovering" GMK and making the first custom order out of the community.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: demik on Thu, 20 August 2015, 19:05:55
In his Keychatter Interview he said things have improved.

https://www.keychatter.com/2015/08/17/interview-sheraton-of-originative-keyboards/
Great interview! Really interesting for me having entered the scene only recently. Didn't know Sheraton was involved with "discovering" GMK and making the first custom order out of the community.
Should be fiancée not fiancé.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 21 August 2015, 11:42:39
In his Keychatter Interview he said things have improved.

https://www.keychatter.com/2015/08/17/interview-sheraton-of-originative-keyboards/
Great interview! Really interesting for me having entered the scene only recently. Didn't know Sheraton was involved with "discovering" GMK and making the first custom order out of the community.

Which would mean he was also involved in the shadiness that went down with the auctioned Cherry red Esc keys.  If he was the one to "discover" it, I wouldn't want to be bragging about that.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: madhias on Fri, 21 August 2015, 11:56:56
He always have some interesting sets in stock, once I wanted to get a Charred Orange set to complete my SkiData set, but did not bought it then. Had some conversation with the owner though. He always has Charred Orange in stock, always ordering at GMK? Seems to sell good then.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 21 August 2015, 11:58:02
In his Keychatter Interview he said things have improved.

https://www.keychatter.com/2015/08/17/interview-sheraton-of-originative-keyboards/
Great interview! Really interesting for me having entered the scene only recently. Didn't know Sheraton was involved with "discovering" GMK and making the first custom order out of the community.

Which would mean he was also involved in the shadiness that went down with the auctioned Cherry red Esc keys.  If he was the one to "discover" it, I wouldn't want to be bragging about that.
I'm intrigued. Can you explain what happened there? I wasn't around at the time. :(
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 21 August 2015, 12:03:59
Small group of people knew about GMK.  Passed the info on to a couple of people along with the knowledge that certain popular keys would be remade (such as the red Esc key).  Put up Cherry caps for auction in the classifieds, hyped the hell out of it, sold the red Esc key for $250.  Shortly after, GMK red Esc keys were made and sold.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 21 August 2015, 12:34:51
Small group of people knew about GMK.  Passed the info on to a couple of people along with the knowledge that certain popular keys would be remade (such as the red Esc key).  Put up Cherry caps for auction in the classifieds, hyped the hell out of it, sold the red Esc key for $250.  Shortly after, GMK red Esc keys were made and sold.
:-\

Thank you.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Melvang on Fri, 21 August 2015, 12:48:10
Small group of people knew about GMK.  Passed the info on to a couple of people along with the knowledge that certain popular keys would be remade (such as the red Esc key).  Put up Cherry caps for auction in the classifieds, hyped the hell out of it, sold the red Esc key for $250.  Shortly after, GMK red Esc keys were made and sold.
:-\

Thank you.

Either way, I still won't buy from his site.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:00:53

Small group of people knew about GMK.  Passed the info on to a couple of people along with the knowledge that certain popular keys would be remade (such as the red Esc key).  Put up Cherry caps for auction in the classifieds, hyped the hell out of it, sold the red Esc key for $250.  Shortly after, GMK red Esc keys were made and sold.
:-\

Thank you.

Either way, I still won't buy from his site.

I won't either. The guy admits he basically just gave everyone the finger for two years since it's a 'hobby', but now that that bit him in the ass he's suddenly realized how to run a business? No thanks, Sherry. You burned that bridge long ago.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:22:25

Small group of people knew about GMK.  Passed the info on to a couple of people along with the knowledge that certain popular keys would be remade (such as the red Esc key).  Put up Cherry caps for auction in the classifieds, hyped the hell out of it, sold the red Esc key for $250.  Shortly after, GMK red Esc keys were made and sold.
:-\

Thank you.

Either way, I still won't buy from his site.

I won't either. The guy admits he basically just gave everyone the finger for two years since it's a 'hobby', but now that that bit him in the ass he's suddenly realized how to run a business? No thanks, Sherry. You burned that bridge long ago.
Yes completely agree.

And the idea mentioned in the interview of giving him a 'second' chance, Sherry already had multiple chances. This last ditch and run wasn't his first.

I still haven't ever been made right on the last items I bought from originative. The most recent contact was promising but nothing came of it.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: demik on Fri, 21 August 2015, 14:34:11
Small group of people knew about GMK.  Passed the info on to a couple of people along with the knowledge that certain popular keys would be remade (such as the red Esc key).  Put up Cherry caps for auction in the classifieds, hyped the hell out of it, sold the red Esc key for $250.  Shortly after, GMK red Esc keys were made and sold.
Nobody put a gun to their heads to pay 250 for a single cap.

Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 21 August 2015, 14:48:04
Small group of people knew about GMK.  Passed the info on to a couple of people along with the knowledge that certain popular keys would be remade (such as the red Esc key).  Put up Cherry caps for auction in the classifieds, hyped the hell out of it, sold the red Esc key for $250.  Shortly after, GMK red Esc keys were made and sold.
Nobody put a gun to their heads to pay 250 for a single cap.

Do you think anyone would have paid more than $10 if they knew the caps would be available en masse in a few months?  Don't pretend like it's okay just because it was voluntary.  Still a **** move to manipulate the market.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: demik on Fri, 21 August 2015, 14:54:20
Buyers set the market.

GH's mentality of "I must own everything" will eventually bite them in the ass.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 21 August 2015, 14:57:19
Buyers set the market.

GH's mentality of "I must own everything" will eventually bite them in the ass.

I don't disagree with that.  But it's only half of what happened there.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: demik on Fri, 21 August 2015, 15:10:19
Buyers set the market.

GH's mentality of "I must own everything" will eventually bite them in the ass.

I don't disagree with that.  But it's only half of what happened there.
Sherry got **** over GMK since the beginning. GHers felt awfully entitled to all info about GMK. As if it was his duty to give up a business opportunity. So maybe he told some people of it, they still made the decision to sell what they had on hand.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Melvang on Fri, 21 August 2015, 15:16:15
That's not why I refuse to buy from his site.  Check out his track record with the sanctuary set, his mysterious disappearing act, not fulfilling orders, late shipping, zero correspondence, no transparency when issues out of his control come up, and all around severe inconsistency.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: demik on Fri, 21 August 2015, 15:17:21
That's not why I refuse to buy from his site.  Check out his track record with the sanctuary set, his mysterious disappearing act, not fulfilling orders, late shipping, zero correspondence, no transparency when issues out of his control come up, and all around severe inconsistency.
All legit points.

Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 21 August 2015, 15:20:16
Melvang's reason is the main one for me too.

And demik, he's not required to give up a business opportunity.  He found them out and deserves to make money off the connection he spent time to find.  What is not okay is tacitly accepting, for lack of a better phrase, insider trading by not letting people know that new Cherry caps were on the way when he saw people who knew put up auctions to dump caps with a massive markup knowing that they would almost immediately be devalued. All he had to do was announce that new original Cherry caps were inbound.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: njbair on Fri, 21 August 2015, 21:14:51
Melvang's reason is the main one for me too.

And demik, he's not required to give up a business opportunity.  He found them out and deserves to make money off the connection he spent time to find.  What is not okay is tacitly accepting, for lack of a better phrase, insider trading by not letting people know that new Cherry caps were on the way when he saw people who knew put up auctions to dump caps with a massive markup knowing that they would almost immediately be devalued. All he had to do was announce that new original Cherry caps were inbound.

This is the first I've heard about this whole fiasco. I was going to chime in agreeing with Demik's "gun to their heads" comment. Demik's right, but the more I think about it, it really was a huge jerk move even if the buyer is to blame for his own actions.

Think about it. How much money was there to be made off of full GMK keysets with the market totally cornered? In that context, $250 is a drop in the bucket, and it leaves that one person totally high and dry. Myself and others have condemned companies like Massdrop for actions far less greedy than that.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: shawn o on Mon, 31 August 2015, 20:43:58
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/originative-gmk-dolch
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: njbair on Mon, 31 August 2015, 20:45:21
With Originative and Massdrop joining forces, how could anything go wrong?
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: inanis on Mon, 31 August 2015, 20:49:53
With Originative and Massdrop joining forces, how could anything go wrong?

Oh, how this made me laugh.  :))

In fairness, he does seem to be doing much better dealing with MD than he did on his own. Maybe it will stick.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: njbair on Mon, 31 August 2015, 20:56:10
With Originative and Massdrop joining forces, how could anything go wrong?

Oh, how this made me laugh.  :))

In fairness, he does seem to be doing much better dealing with MD than he did on his own. Maybe it will stick.

I hope so for everyone's sake. Either way, teaming up with a big name like Massdrop is a smart move on his part. MD opens him up to an audience of buyers that he never had access to before (read: /r/mk), and who maybe don't know enough about his history to get the willies at the sheer mention of his name.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Melvang on Mon, 31 August 2015, 21:12:23
With Originative and Massdrop joining forces, how could anything go wrong?

Oh, how this made me laugh.  :))

In fairness, he does seem to be doing much better dealing with MD than he did on his own. Maybe it will stick.

I hope so for everyone's sake. Either way, teaming up with a big name like Massdrop is a smart move on his part. MD opens him up to an audience of buyers that he never had access to before (read: /r/mk), and who maybe don't know enough about his history to get the willies at the sheer mention of his name.

And at the same time he is under a huge responsibility to Mass Drop.  I don't see them as a company laying down if he fails to deliver.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 31 August 2015, 21:48:41
Not the first time he has paired with Massdrop.  I got some light blue Tai Hao keycaps from Massdrop, and the bag had a big Originative sticker on it.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 01 September 2015, 05:17:11
And at the same time he is under a huge responsibility to Mass Drop.  I don't see them as a company laying down if he fails to deliver.

Even if he subsides into his normal scumbag self and piss-off with everyone's money, MassDrop still has to hand over refunds for all those ripped off by him.   Suspect MD will be sending an Army of Lawyers to extract every last cent out of his deadbeat corpse, for this Group Buy.

MassDrop doesn't back down on dirty sellers who signed a legal contract to supply the goods then renege on that contract.  It's like signing a deal with Satan, do you really think you can get away from your obligations here.........you shall pay one way or another.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: bueller on Tue, 01 September 2015, 05:25:24
I'm not in need of another Dolch set but if I was I'd still steer clear of this. Doesn't matter to me that MD are running it, if Sheraton is involved he wouldn't be getting my money.

Done giving my money to people who don't give a **** about their customers.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 21 September 2015, 01:18:02
Sure enough I have tested him personally to see if he passes any level of trust when handing over your money and he has YET again FAILED.

Shipped me another couple of sets only this time he shipped only one set this time, thinking I would ignore his crime, he underestimates me yet again because Paypal has been notified.

It's true that scumbag Sherryton is still in action only this time he chose the wrong person to rip-off.  Always want to give someone a second chance here because it's me, the sometimes naive fool trusting everyone here on Geekhack or on MassDrop.

This time MD has to cough up the money and then they have to skin it out of Sherryton, to re-cover their losses.  Maybe this time MassDrop has to learn that some people do not ever deserve any level of trust whatsoever and doing business with them will come to hurt them severely.

Nice to know that certain people can NEVER be trusted, despite the promises and claims he still makes ...........  ::)
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Jokrik on Mon, 21 September 2015, 01:34:52
Well this is confusing, I placed a quite big order last week and received my tracking in less than 12 hours
Let's see if it will arrive completely but Wendy from Originative has been nothing but prompt with questions via email
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 21 September 2015, 04:12:55
Well this is confusing, I placed a quite big order last week and received my tracking in less than 12 hours
Let's see if it will arrive completely but Wendy from Originative has been nothing but prompt with questions via email

ALWAYS check what was paid for and what you actually received.  In fact count every key received against the famous Geekhack Key-set chart, to make sure everything was delivered.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: crickclackman on Thu, 04 February 2016, 16:51:32
Well this is confusing, I placed a quite big order last week and received my tracking in less than 12 hours
Let's see if it will arrive completely but Wendy from Originative has been nothing but prompt with questions via email

Did it arrive?

His website legit?
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: appleonama on Thu, 04 February 2016, 17:05:16
I am not shill but it looks like he's been very active lately and fulfilling orders quite fast. I am not sure what issues there were before he tainted his rep, but I haven't had an issue in the last 5 months.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Jokrik on Thu, 04 February 2016, 17:06:53
I am not shill but it looks like he's been very active lately and fulfilling orders quite fast. I am not sure what issues there were before he tainted his rep, but I haven't had an issue in the last 5 months.

Yes, they've been performing well recently no doubt

Maybe a consideration to bring them back into the forum?
I love them since day - 1
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: romevi on Thu, 04 February 2016, 17:09:37
I am not shill but it looks like he's been very active lately and fulfilling orders quite fast. I am not sure what issues there were before he tainted his rep, but I haven't had an issue in the last 5 months.

Check out the interview with lsb on Keychatter. That'll give you the reasons why he's developed a bad reputation. But yes, he's being doing leagues better recently. Every item I've ordered I've gotten the same week, and every question I asked he (or Wendy?) responds the same day. He even follows up with a friendly email after every order.

Not sure if he's doing it to compensate for what's happened in the past, but he'll be getting a few more orders from me in the future.

Just change the site up a bit, sherry. It looks too "premium."  :))
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Glenmael on Thu, 04 February 2016, 17:13:52
In my experience, Originative have been nothing but a delight to deal with.

I have ordered quite a number of items from their store:
    -Charred Orange
    -Cyan
    -Olivetti
    -CMYW Modifiers
    -Royal Purple
    -Oceanic Blue
    -Apple Green
    -Carbon Black

Only ever had 1 issue, in which the Carbon Black was missing a key, I emailed them, got an immediate response and the key was shipped out next day.

Will continue to buy from them and appreciate their dedication to bringing GMK to the masses  :cool:
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: tigersharkdude on Thu, 04 February 2016, 17:16:43
Have placed two orders for small items from them recently. Both shipped the day I ordered, item 1 arrived 3 days later, just ordered item 2 yesterday
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Fullcream on Thu, 04 February 2016, 17:18:10
Just to contribute to this, most people say they submitted an order and then within x hours got a shipping confirmation.
The other night I ordered purple modifiers and then fell asleep and woke up with a shipping confirmation but I can't be bothered to check the time the email was received so yeah. Cool
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: tigersharkdude on Thu, 04 February 2016, 17:45:06
Also want to point out.

Yesterday I ordered the Cyan homing keys, I had an issue with payment not working and emailed them. Between Sheraton and Wendy they fixed the issue promptly.

Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Bromono on Thu, 04 February 2016, 17:46:13
Same got tracking number within a few hours of ordering.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Halverson on Thu, 04 February 2016, 18:08:03
I had dinner with sherry the other night. He's fighting hard to gain reputation back. Hopefully everyone can be confident ordering from Originative.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: nickheller on Thu, 04 February 2016, 18:10:47
I have ordered a few things, small things, in the past month, they have all shipped very quickly, and I have had 0 issues.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: demik on Thu, 04 February 2016, 18:11:25
I had dinner with sherry the other night. He's fighting hard to gain reputation back. Hopefully everyone can be confident ordering from Originative.

^

sherry is a cool dude, i think he just went in a little over his head starting out but he's gotten control of it lately.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Halverson on Thu, 04 February 2016, 18:12:27

I had dinner with sherry the other night. He's fighting hard to gain reputation back. Hopefully everyone can be confident ordering from Originative.

^

sherry is a cool dude, i think he just went in a little over his head starting out but he's gotten control of it lately.

Another issue was traveling then getting too busy and not letting anyone know.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 04 February 2016, 18:12:35
I had dinner with sherry the other night. He's fighting hard to gain reputation back. Hopefully everyone can be confident ordering from Originative.

^

sherry is a cool dude, i think he just went in a little over his head starting out but he's gotten control of it lately.

+1 has regained my trust on a personal* level.

*Not an official statement of geekhack.org
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: demik on Thu, 04 February 2016, 18:14:22

I had dinner with sherry the other night. He's fighting hard to gain reputation back. Hopefully everyone can be confident ordering from Originative.

^

sherry is a cool dude, i think he just went in a little over his head starting out but he's gotten control of it lately.

Another issue was traveling then getting too busy and not letting anyone know.

yup, which is where he messed up and he knows it. and he said he's learned from it.

god i want korean bbq
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Halverson on Thu, 04 February 2016, 18:14:47


I had dinner with sherry the other night. He's fighting hard to gain reputation back. Hopefully everyone can be confident ordering from Originative.

^

sherry is a cool dude, i think he just went in a little over his head starting out but he's gotten control of it lately.

Another issue was traveling then getting too busy and not letting anyone know.

yup, which is where he messed up and he knows it. and he said he's learned from it.

god i want korean bbq

I could eat
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: romevi on Thu, 04 February 2016, 18:15:43
I had dinner with sherry the other night. He's fighting hard to gain reputation back. Hopefully everyone can be confident ordering from Originative.

I think his passion for keyboards is definitely there. Didn't he help "find" GMK? That's a major boon to the custom keyboard world.

It sounds like he just got in way, way over his head. Too much too fast.
Was he the first of the infamous disappearing GB leaders? If so, that may be another reason; as this had never happened before, he took the brunt of the force.

But as I mentioned, I've had nothing but pleasant experiences. There were few instances where I emailed him through Originative a couple of years ago, before I even joined geekhack, and never got a response, but that seems menial compared to his efforts now.


PS
I even ordered the Portal mods and didn't realize until they arrived I ordered the wrong ones. Wendy sent the right ones right away and trusted that I returned the erroneous set (which I did).


PPS
Ugh. Sniped by replies. That's what I get for typing too much.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 04 February 2016, 18:20:00

I think his passion for keyboards is definitely there. Didn't he help "find" GMK? That's a major boon to the custom keyboard world.


when GMK was found there was  a group who knew about it and tried to sell there OG sets at inflated prices before everyone else found out  :-X
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: romevi on Thu, 04 February 2016, 18:25:31

I think his passion for keyboards is definitely there. Didn't he help "find" GMK? That's a major boon to the custom keyboard world.


when GMK was found there was  a group who knew about it and tried to sell there OG sets at inflated prices before everyone else found out  :-X

Found out what their source was?
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Vittra on Thu, 04 February 2016, 19:34:19
Just wanted to provide some input:

Today, I received my GMK Cyan set and Cyan LED set. Fast shipping. Everything accounted for. As some have previously mentioned, I received a notice about the cyan blanks should I have wanted them, and a shipping notice not long after that (same day as order).

Everything is accounted for. Very light/small scratch on two keys (F6 and 1.25U Alt), but I can live with it if no replacements are available.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: WNovizar on Thu, 04 February 2016, 21:11:12
Hi, I'm new here and doesn't know any of the past GB "horrible" experiences, but I can vouch that originative is one of the best keycaps vendor I know.

I joined GMK Valentine GB, and bought some addons, and Taihao PBT miami (non coated) from him, he shipped the same day I ordered it, with USPS tracking

That alone is already gaining my trust for him

I just wish the prices are lowered for a little bit, hehehe
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: skcheng on Thu, 04 February 2016, 21:23:08
Sherry FTW.   Can't undo the past ..... but we can all move forward   :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 05 February 2016, 08:51:14
Assuming he wants it back, I believe it's completely worth offering a vendor forum to Sherry. We all benefit from vendors catering to the enthusiast crowd, and when vendors misstep, our hope should be for reform, and successful reform should be rewarded. Seems like Sherry falls firmly in that camp.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: jerue on Fri, 05 February 2016, 11:04:37
It's not exactly GH related, but I have noticed Sherry doing an awesome job over at reddit with answering questions about GMK caps, answered a couple of mine as well. Just another positive bump for him  :thumb:
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 February 2016, 11:20:48
I had dinner with sherry the other night. He's fighting hard to gain reputation back. Hopefully everyone can be confident ordering from Originative.

^

sherry is a cool dude, i think he just went in a little over his head starting out but he's gotten control of it lately.

This is the issue I'm having with supporting Originative. I like Sherry as a person and think he's a great guy. But I don't think he runs a very tight ship with his business or hasn't in the past. This is literally the 4th or 5th time I've seen the cycle of Sherry is good and shipping stuff. I'm worried that it'll go the way it did before. 6 months of good service and shipping, 6 months of nothing like Melvang was talking about. I've pretty much settled it as Sherry is a great guy and maybe not so great businessperson from what I've seen. Unfortunately I've made my decision that I will continue not supporting him. Even though I *really* wanted that GMK Valentine's 520 set.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: mashby on Fri, 05 February 2016, 11:27:40
This is something that will take time. People have had mixed experiences in the past and as long as the business continues to deliver on it's promises then I think the problems of the past will be just that -- in the past.

Personally, I've had nothing but good experiences with both Sherry and The Originative, but I am aware that others have had issues. Will this stop me from ordering from them again? No. In fact, I'm trying so hard not to buy the Valentines set.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: crickclackman on Fri, 05 February 2016, 16:00:37
So...from my short time here a lot of stuff ships late.

Did he actually ever scam any anyone?
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 05 February 2016, 16:09:38
I'm personally glad sherry's back on the wagon as he's a good friend from back in the day. Clearly he knows he needs to put in the work to earn back some of the trust he lost, and I hope that he gets there. :thumb:
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 05 February 2016, 19:54:20
So...from my short time here a lot of stuff ships late.

Did he actually ever scam any anyone?
I know reading is hard but this entire thread is full of information that can help answer that question.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 05 February 2016, 22:53:11
If he does get a vendor forum again, he's going to get a LOT of flack until things settle down.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: romevi on Fri, 05 February 2016, 23:13:45
What's his current track record at? Five months? Maybe take a full year before giving back the forum?
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: demik on Sat, 06 February 2016, 02:20:39
So...from my short time here a lot of stuff ships late.

Did he actually ever scam any anyone?
I know reading is hard but this entire thread is full of information that can help answer that question.

hahaha.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: sherryton on Sat, 06 February 2016, 18:42:51
Geekhackers,

I wanted to take this time to thank you all for the positive comments and kind words. I especially want to thank those who’ve been following me and still chose to put their faith in me. This really means a lot to me since many people tend to think that history will just repeat itself.

I know trust is a hard thing to regain, but I’m hoping to prove myself to those who still have doubts in me. Originative is no longer a one-man show.  I now have the help I need and wished I had when I first started in 2013. In the past year, we have worked as a team to push out orders, large and small, within 1-2 business days.

I’ve also matured as a person; instead of choosing to run away from my problems, I’ve learned to face them with confidence. I know what I have done in the past to negatively impact my reputation in the community, but I’ve been working harder every day to better myself and Originative. I understand that Originative would be nothing without the trust of the community and we’ve been striving to provide the best customer support for those who’ve been supporting us.

Your GH friend,

Sheraton
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: skcheng on Sat, 06 February 2016, 18:59:30
Geekhackers,

I wanted to take this time to thank you all for the positive comments and kind words. I especially want to thank those who’ve been following me and still chose to put their faith in me. This really means a lot to me since many people tend to think that history will just repeat itself.

I know trust is a hard thing to regain, but I’m hoping to prove myself to those who still have doubts in me. Originative is no longer a one-man show.  I now have the help I need and wished I had when I first started in 2013. In the past year, we have worked as a team to push out orders, large and small, within 1-2 business days.

I’ve also matured as a person; instead of choosing to run away from my problems, I’ve learned to face them with confidence. I know what I have done in the past to negatively impact my reputation in the community, but I’ve been working harder every day to better myself and Originative. I understand that Originative would be nothing without the trust of the community and we’ve been striving to provide the best customer support for those who’ve been supporting us.

Your GH friend,

Sheraton



Very well put.   Now add more products to your store cuz I currently own everything you're selling   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 06 February 2016, 20:54:48
sherry's cool.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Sat, 06 February 2016, 21:24:55
I've been purchasing things from Sherry and from the site and have had a good transaction every time. He's doing good work. Keep it up!
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 07 February 2016, 01:49:39
Communication is good.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: polentA on Sun, 07 February 2016, 02:04:49
I've bought a few things from Originative recently and had no problems at all.  Items shipped very quickly and arrived sooner than expected.  No complaints at all  :thumb: 
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: tronbeaver on Sun, 07 February 2016, 10:13:12
So...from my short time here a lot of stuff ships late.

Did he actually ever scam any anyone?
I know reading is hard but this entire thread is full of information that can help answer that question.

Hoff says Originiative never scammed anyone.

Speaking of Sherry, have the problems with his past GB order fulfillment issues been addressed?

AFAIK he has fulfilled all past GBs.


Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: romevi on Sun, 07 February 2016, 10:15:54
So...from my short time here a lot of stuff ships late.

Did he actually ever scam any anyone?
I know reading is hard but this entire thread is full of information that can help answer that question.

Hoff says Originiative never scammed anyone.

Speaking of Sherry, have the problems with his past GB order fulfillment issues been addressed?

AFAIK he has fulfilled all past GBs.


Not scamming =/= fulfilling all GBs.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 07 February 2016, 10:37:57
So...from my short time here a lot of stuff ships late.

Did he actually ever scam any anyone?
I know reading is hard but this entire thread is full of information that can help answer that question.

Hoff says Originiative never scammed anyone.

Speaking of Sherry, have the problems with his past GB order fulfillment issues been addressed?

AFAIK he has fulfilled all past GBs.


No. 

He did leave a few group buys un-fulfilled for months, if not years, and did have many issues.  But as of right now he does not have any outstanding orders from those past group buys (AKA he has fulfilled all past GBs as of currently).

He did have issues.

I still wouldn't say he scammed anyone though, since IMO that implies intent. 
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: katushkin on Sun, 07 February 2016, 17:28:13
I was apprehensive using Originative in the latter half of last year. I received a nice PM from sherry about some stabilisers. I also received the 24k gold springs I ordered in a very short time.

I would say A+ for service and fulfilment.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Hypersphere on Sun, 07 February 2016, 17:38:37
Quite a long time ago I purchased my very first keycap set from Originative; everything was fine. Since then, I have made a number of purchases from Originative with no issues at all. Shipping was always prompt, and when I had questions, I got quick and thoughtful replies. My most recent Originative purchase was another keycap set, and again I got prompt service and immediate shipping.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 07 February 2016, 17:44:47
I've been in heavy communication with him for the last few months, and he has been trying exceptionally hard to work out the issues he had in the past and work on getting new stuff for the community.

Personally, the fact that he straight up admitted fault the way he did with me, without any BS excuses at all, really earned a lot of respect from me just for that. That often isn't the case around here, so it was very refreshing to me.

This last year I've had only very good experiences with anything I've ordered from him  :thumb:
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: swimmingbird on Sun, 07 February 2016, 21:14:49
Quite a long time ago I purchased my very first keycap set from Originative; everything was fine. Since then, I have made a number of purchases from Originative with no issues at all. Shipping was always prompt, and when I had questions, I got quick and thoughtful replies. My most recent Originative purchase was another keycap set, and again I got prompt service and immediate shipping.

Describes my experiences as well

Sherry has been fantastic with shipping times and amending orders
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: tigersharkdude on Mon, 08 February 2016, 12:35:11
This isnt really on the Originative aspect, but more on Sherry.

He has been helping and giving guidance on my attempt at starting a Group Buy. He has definitely helped me a ton on this.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 03 March 2016, 17:54:41
I had dinner with sherry the other night. He's fighting hard to gain reputation back. Hopefully everyone can be confident ordering from Originative.

^

sherry is a cool dude, i think he just went in a little over his head starting out but he's gotten control of it lately.

This is the issue I'm having with supporting Originative. I like Sherry as a person and think he's a great guy. But I don't think he runs a very tight ship with his business or hasn't in the past. This is literally the 4th or 5th time I've seen the cycle of Sherry is good and shipping stuff. I'm worried that it'll go the way it did before. 6 months of good service and shipping, 6 months of nothing like Melvang was talking about. I've pretty much settled it as Sherry is a great guy and maybe not so great businessperson from what I've seen. Unfortunately I've made my decision that I will continue not supporting him. Even though I *really* wanted that GMK Valentine's 520 set.

I am spending today sorting components for the GH60 group buy.  Yet another big buy that was abandoned with many, many people assuming they would never get what they paid for.  But a bunch of GH'ers are banding together and making it happen.  But very few people would ever do business with the originators of THAT group buy ever again.  Even the originators who seemed like really awesome people.

I also like Sherryton as a person, but after many disappointments decided to cross him off my list of people with whom I will do business.  After the second or third time he completely stopped communicating to many, many people, it became hard to click his buy buttons -- even when he was offering some really cool things for sale.

Hoff says no one actually lost out from Sherryton's actions.  I don't think that is true, but I can't find substantiation either way.  My recollection is that there were group buys that ended up in his parent's garage, never to be seen by the original buyers again.  But I could be wrong, and I hope for Sherryton's sake I am.

Regardless, no one who has been here for a long time would say they were confident about Originative.  Sometimes they send a tracking number immediately -- but that just means they printed a label.  Sometimes they respond to e-mails quickly, and sometimes they disappear for months.

Everyone who is in this hobby takes time away.  I certainly have.

But it is unacceptable to do so during a group buy.

Sadly, I am with CPTBadAss on this matter.  I'd happily drink a beer with Sherryton, but not do business there again.

Sorry.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Vagabond on Thu, 13 October 2016, 09:06:09
I had dinner with sherry the other night. He's fighting hard to gain reputation back. Hopefully everyone can be confident ordering from Originative.

^

sherry is a cool dude, i think he just went in a little over his head starting out but he's gotten control of it lately.

This is the issue I'm having with supporting Originative. I like Sherry as a person and think he's a great guy. But I don't think he runs a very tight ship with his business or hasn't in the past. This is literally the 4th or 5th time I've seen the cycle of Sherry is good and shipping stuff. I'm worried that it'll go the way it did before. 6 months of good service and shipping, 6 months of nothing like Melvang was talking about. I've pretty much settled it as Sherry is a great guy and maybe not so great businessperson from what I've seen. Unfortunately I've made my decision that I will continue not supporting him. Even though I *really* wanted that GMK Valentine's 520 set.

I am spending today sorting components for the GH60 group buy.  Yet another big buy that was abandoned with many, many people assuming they would never get what they paid for.  But a bunch of GH'ers are banding together and making it happen.  But very few people would ever do business with the originators of THAT group buy ever again.  Even the originators who seemed like really awesome people.

I also like Sherryton as a person, but after many disappointments decided to cross him off my list of people with whom I will do business.  After the second or third time he completely stopped communicating to many, many people, it became hard to click his buy buttons -- even when he was offering some really cool things for sale.

Hoff says no one actually lost out from Sherryton's actions.  I don't think that is true, but I can't find substantiation either way.  My recollection is that there were group buys that ended up in his parent's garage, never to be seen by the original buyers again.  But I could be wrong, and I hope for Sherryton's sake I am.

Regardless, no one who has been here for a long time would say they were confident about Originative.  Sometimes they send a tracking number immediately -- but that just means they printed a label.  Sometimes they respond to e-mails quickly, and sometimes they disappear for months.

Everyone who is in this hobby takes time away.  I certainly have.

But it is unacceptable to do so during a group buy.

Sadly, I am with CPTBadAss on this matter.  I'd happily drink a beer with Sherryton, but not do business there again.

Sorry.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Seems the tables have turned.  Originative now is shipping on time and Sameisekoi has abandoned his Group Buys.

Can Originative be reinstated?
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 13 October 2016, 11:45:12

Can Originative be reinstated?

Does he even want to?  Personally, I've done business with him.  And never even knew of any former associating with GH.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 13 October 2016, 14:27:18
Have had more than a few orders with Originative in the last 6 months. Space bars, Hyperfuse, etc. No issues at all and all items were shipped extremely fast. Usually received tracking the day of the order and the items would hit the post a day or two after with priority shipping selected.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: xondat on Thu, 13 October 2016, 14:32:10
Also will weigh in with my experiences: ordered some Gateron switches through them with different housings than they stock, their supplier let them down but I got them without affecting what I needed them for (so it doesn't matter too much). I was kept up to date frequently and got a coupon as an apology. Hyperfuse/stabilizers came quickly, packaging could've been better as I ended up with 40+ scratched keys, but otherwise in a good, timely fashion. Sherry is a great guy and has good intentions, the other 2? guys are cool too.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Vagabond on Fri, 14 October 2016, 09:04:55

Can Originative be reinstated?

Does he even want to?  Personally, I've done business with him.  And never even knew of any former associating with GH.

Not sure if he wants to but he had one:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57652.0
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 14 October 2016, 11:35:24

Can Originative be reinstated?

Does he even want to?  Personally, I've done business with him.  And never even knew of any former associating with GH.

Not sure if he wants to but he had one:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57652.0

That's pretty obvious as you linked to this same thread.  :p

I'm just asking in regards to people asking if he can have it back.  Does he even want it?

And I think that the burying of that relationship is a disservice to the community, as not sure if most people know about the history.  I certainly didn't when joining his GBs.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 28 October 2016, 19:54:49
I'll keep my personal opinion on originative out of this post, but I got my order from them one day before the expected delivery date (which was tomorrow).
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: punksinatra on Tue, 15 November 2016, 03:44:23
Anyone outside CONUS can vouch for them?
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 19 November 2016, 17:48:38
Anyone outside CONUS can vouch for them?

Yes, even though there were mishaps with my last order they were basically out of their influence and everything ended up going all right. I've already ordered a few things from them, mainly four keysets, one of which is currently in GB stage (Sky Dolch), another one is currently in the humble hands of USPS and the last two did already arrive. I never had an insane problem (like an order not arriving at all), so I don't know how they act in such a case, but from the process of ordering to them handing it to USPS everything was perfect for me.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: punksinatra on Sun, 20 November 2016, 03:14:06
Anyone outside CONUS can vouch for them?

Yes, even though there were mishaps with my last order they were basically out of their influence and everything ended up going all right. I've already ordered a few things from them, mainly four keysets, one of which is currently in GB stage (Sky Dolch), another one is currently in the humble hands of USPS and the last two did already arrive. I never had an insane problem (like an order not arriving at all), so I don't know how they act in such a case, but from the process of ordering to them handing it to USPS everything was perfect for me.

Thanks because I was considering some keysets from them.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: exanile_tabasco on Sun, 20 November 2016, 07:34:33
Anyone outside CONUS can vouch for them?

Yes, even though there were mishaps with my last order they were basically out of their influence and everything ended up going all right. I've already ordered a few things from them, mainly four keysets, one of which is currently in GB stage (Sky Dolch), another one is currently in the humble hands of USPS and the last two did already arrive. I never had an insane problem (like an order not arriving at all), so I don't know how they act in such a case, but from the process of ordering to them handing it to USPS everything was perfect for me.

Thanks because I was considering some keysets from them.

I've bought plenty of stuff from the "new" Originative, always getting it shipped to the UK. In the beginning, it seemed they needed a few reminders via email to actually send out my order. You could tell that they had read the email because after a week or two of nothing, all of a sudden the order would be shipped the day of or the day after the email. I think they have abolished the whole "we only ship on Mondays and Thursdays (or some **** like that)" thing nowadays.

Aside from that, O-co has never failed to deliver on their end. I've had some massive, outrageous customs delays, but that's out of the control of Originative and USPS / UPS. Have gotten orders shipped with USPS First Class (ends up with Royal Mail), USPS Priority Mail (ends up with Parcelforce), UPS Expedited and UPS Saver. Once, there was an order held up because customs info was missing, but the problem was rectified after I sent an email.

In my recent few orders (Sky Dolch, HFuse and FMJ) Originative has been very responsive to my queries via email. Perhaps this is because they've got some new staff aboard to handle emails. In conclusion, O-co right now is pretty good, but it hasn't always been this way.
Title: Re: Originative: Vendor Review
Post by: punksinatra on Sun, 20 November 2016, 08:10:31
Thank you for your input  :D