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« Reply #50 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:48:46 »
Would there be any color packs? Like inverted mods or something? That would be so awesome.

I don't think the same way. I prefer Olivetti as nothing more than blue on white. If you do weird color stuff to it, I start to hate it.

I guess I'd be worried about fragmentation in the buy. We want MOQ. So I guess just an optional color pack would help, like in Dolch. That was a huge success and doesn't detract from the original set.

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« Reply #51 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:54:24 »
Yup, optional color pack is what I suggested, as well.  Just a little something extra for those that want it.

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« Reply #52 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:58:29 »
I really wish we could start doing some new stuff out of GMK instead of just repeating all the sets that Sherry has produced. There are so many options and all anyone ever talks about is re-pro's, am I the only one that wants to see GMK Red Alert of RainDrop? Or like 5 million other awesome combos.

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It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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« Reply #53 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 20:01:09 »
I really wish we could start doing some new stuff out of GMK instead of just repeating all the sets that Sherry has produced. There are so many options and all anyone ever talks about is re-pro's, am I the only one that wants to see GMK Red Alert of RainDrop? Or like 5 million other awesome combos.

*sigh*

You can look forward to GMK Hyperfuse, at least.  I agree, though.  I'm not even touching my Dolch set anymore because it's been beaten to death. :( 

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« Reply #54 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 20:02:27 »
I really wish we could start doing some new stuff out of GMK instead of just repeating all the sets that Sherry has produced. There are so many options and all anyone ever talks about is re-pro's, am I the only one that wants to see GMK Red Alert of RainDrop? Or like 5 million other awesome combos.

*sigh*

You can look forward to GMK Hyperfuse, at least.  I agree, though.  I'm not even touching my Dolch set anymore because it's been beaten to death. :( 

That I am looking forward to. Will finally have a decent set of alphas to go with my purple mods!
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« Reply #55 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 20:27:42 »
I really wish we could start doing some new stuff out of GMK instead of just repeating all the sets that Sherry has produced. There are so many options and all anyone ever talks about is re-pro's, am I the only one that wants to see GMK Red Alert of RainDrop? Or like 5 million other awesome combos.

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« Reply #56 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 20:37:46 »
I really wish we could start doing some new stuff out of GMK instead of just repeating all the sets that Sherry has produced. There are so many options and all anyone ever talks about is re-pro's, am I the only one that wants to see GMK Red Alert of RainDrop? Or like 5 million other awesome combos.

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Completely agree. I think these look rather boring. Making something new and exciting.
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« Reply #57 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 20:51:33 »
I think this would struggle to meet MOQ as well, the Olivetti set was one of the least popular sets Sherry sold. I remember there still being sets of them available long after he sold out of his first run of Dolch and Classic Beige.
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« Reply #58 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 21:04:36 »
I think this would struggle to meet MOQ as well, the Olivetti set was one of the least popular sets Sherry sold. I remember there still being sets of them available long after he sold out of his first run of Dolch and Classic Beige.

I think otherwise. The set from Originative was selling slowly because it has a defect.
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« Reply #59 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 21:16:06 »
sherry did a bunch of dumb things to his olivetti set, that's why nobody wanted it

if this was run with the proper legends it would probably do fine
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« Reply #60 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 21:37:09 »
I think this would struggle to meet MOQ as well, the Olivetti set was one of the least popular sets Sherry sold. I remember there still being sets of them available long after he sold out of his first run of Dolch and Classic Beige.

I think otherwise. The set from Originative was selling slowly because it has a defect.
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The Classic Beige had the same problem and they still sold out well before the Olivetti.
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« Reply #61 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 21:39:48 »
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« Reply #62 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 21:50:19 »
The Classic Beige had the same problem and they still sold out well before the Olivetti.
I think it is because the Classic Beige Tab (BOW Double shot) is easy to find the replacement so people don't mind to get the defect one and replace the ridiculous Tab with the one they have.
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« Reply #63 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 21:59:43 »
sherry did a bunch of dumb things to his olivetti set, that's why nobody wanted it

if this was run with the proper legends it would probably do fine

Just wondering, since I'm not so familliar with his set, what were the things he changed? Just so we don't make the same mistake.

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« Reply #64 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 22:00:10 »
I'm definitely in if you included Raindrop style modifiers.

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« Reply #65 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 22:38:28 »
me too, i will take 2 sets if you made it ;)
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« Reply #66 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 00:13:50 »
I really wish we could start doing some new stuff out of GMK instead of just repeating all the sets that Sherry has produced. There are so many options and all anyone ever talks about is re-pro's, am I the only one that wants to see GMK Red Alert of RainDrop? Or like 5 million other awesome combos.

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« Reply #67 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 00:36:37 »
sherry did a bunch of dumb things to his olivetti set, that's why nobody wanted it

if this was run with the proper legends it would probably do fine

Just wondering, since I'm not so familliar with his set, what were the things he changed? Just so we don't make the same mistake.



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« Reply #68 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 00:52:52 »
I want this set happen in three pack, which is the base set, color pack, and spacebar.  Basically just like the recent GMK DOLCH.
The base set will be white alpha, beige/grey mods, blue legend.  Include Winkey Set, Winkey less modifier, ISO support keys, 1.75x shift.  Depend on interest, Blue on white F5-F8, and A profile bottom may be included.
Color pack I haven't decided the color and which keys yet.

Raindrop mods is not impossible but I think the only way to reach the MOQ is adding it to the base set, but the price will probably increase a lot.

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« Reply #69 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 01:27:22 »
i find that the colour combination of N5 on L9 and U9 seems more vibrant and pleasing to the eyes compared to V4.
but maybe because i'm personally hoping for this to change to GMK Raindrop and N5 is the best colour option for that  :p

also, the mods are going to be text or icon?
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« Reply #70 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 01:40:19 »
interested. submitted form.
hopefully, this gmk gb will have a symmetrical option for the ~` and |\ keys having the same color as the modifiers.


+1

I also prefer the symmetrical look and I think many others do as well. Two extra keys shouldn't increase the costs of the set too much.

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« Reply #71 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 01:41:14 »
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« Reply #72 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 01:51:45 »
Does the originative set use n5 or v4? Having a legend color too vibrant can lead to a loss of contrast. But I think the originative set got it just right.

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« Reply #73 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 01:53:00 »
i find that the colour combination of N5 on L9 and U9 seems more vibrant and pleasing to the eyes compared to V4.
but maybe because i'm personally hoping for this to change to GMK Raindrop and N5 is the best colour option for that  :p

also, the mods are going to be text or icon?
the following is my ideal modifier setup;-
  • Icon mods - Tab, Capslock, Backspace, Enter, Winkey (Win8  :p :p :p)
  • Icon and/or text mod - Shift
  • Text mods - all the others

I actually haven't decided which blue for the legend yet.  V4 on L9 and U9 is the color combination of the GMK set that sold by Originative.  And N5 is the color of the blue enter, shift, arrow set, control, alt, and wasd that sold by elitekeyboards.  N5 is a lighter blue, which I think is closer to the original color.  But again, I don't have the original doubleshot, so I can't compare them

The mods will depend on the interest.  Winkey would probably be win 98 logo.
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« Reply #74 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 01:57:30 »
Does the originative set use n5 or v4? Having a legend color too vibrant can lead to a loss of contrast. But I think the originative set got it just right.
Originative set use V4

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« Reply #75 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 02:13:24 »
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i don't know what colour does the blue esc that i have is using (made by gmk) but it sure does looks like N5 to me and the Alt looks like V4.
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« Reply #76 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 02:27:30 »
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i don't know what colour does the blue esc that i have is using (made by gmk) but it sure does looks like N5 to me and the Alt looks like V4.
You are right the blue Esc in your picture is N5 and alt is V4.  And the RGBY is using V4.

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« Reply #77 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 03:31:47 »
...GMK Raindrop and N5 is the best colour option for that  :p
surely you mean V4? N5 is a very weak blue, whereas the Raindrop set looks just like V4 blue


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« Reply #78 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 03:58:33 »
In case anyone is interested, I found a couple of good quality pics of the previous Originative Olivetti set.

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« Reply #79 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 04:12:09 »
How did Sherry price his GMK sets so much lower than the GB prices we are seeing now? His sets $95+shipping? Now GMK GBs are priced around $110-$120.
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« Reply #80 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 04:31:00 »
...GMK Raindrop and N5 is the best colour option for that  :p
surely you mean V4? N5 is a very weak blue, whereas the Raindrop set looks just like V4 blue

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N5 is very close to a darker shade of royal blue.
i think raindrop is in between N5 and V4, picture quality and monitor calibration can be deceiving.
i don't have my raindrop with me at my office. when i get home, i'll put them side by side for comparison :)
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« Reply #81 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 05:40:49 »
I may need 2 sets.

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« Reply #82 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 05:41:02 »
How did Sherry price his GMK sets so lower than the GB prices we are seeing now? His sets $95+shipping? Now GMK GBs are priced around $110-$120.


Because you only get a TKL set for 95$.

Ivan's GB for example includes a numpad, a Tsangan kit and full ISO support.

If you buy all these keys from Sherry you'll pay ~160$.

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« Reply #83 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 06:02:53 »
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...GMK Raindrop and N5 is the best colour option for that  :p
surely you mean V4? N5 is a very weak blue, whereas the Raindrop set looks just like V4 blue

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i don't know what colour does the blue esc that i have is using (made by gmk) but it sure does looks like N5 to me and the Alt looks like V4.
You are right the blue Esc in your picture is N5 and alt is V4.  And the RGBY is using V4.

as promised, here's a comparison picture of the different shades of blue.

From left: GMK Blue ESC (N5), SP Raindrop R2 (BFP), GMK Blue RGB Alt (V4)
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« Reply #84 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 06:16:28 »
thanks for the photo. you're right, N5 is a lot closer tonally to the Raindrop blue than the V4, which veers towards a dark blue/purple shade

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« Reply #85 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 06:21:01 »
I think you're gonna have problems doing A profile in the main set. Some people will want B-profile 1.5 keys too, so you'd have to do :

full 1.25x b-profile bottom row
1.5x + 1x b-profile keys
full 1.5x/1x a-profile bottom row

That's a lot of keys if you include ISO, windowed locks, 1.75x etc.

I think it's best to do a 'main set' and an 'extra set'. Just my thoughts :cool:
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« Reply #86 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 06:30:02 »
How did Sherry price his GMK sets so lower than the GB prices we are seeing now? His sets $95+shipping? Now GMK GBs are priced around $110-$120.


Because you only get a TKL set for 95$.

Ivan's GB for example includes a numpad, a Tsangan kit and full ISO support.

If you buy all these keys from Sherry you'll pay ~160$.

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« Reply #87 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 07:16:49 »
Any chance for extra caps for 1800 layout?
like 1x "0" and the 1x "+" , I really need GMK stuff for my lightsaver and I know some people too
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« Reply #88 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 08:16:26 »
If I remember right Ivan's Dolch has 1x 0 key
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« Reply #89 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 09:11:32 »
If I remember right Ivan's Dolch has 1x 0 key

It does.  1x 0, 1x 00, 2x 0.   :thumb: 

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« Reply #90 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 09:13:50 »
GMK? I'm in.

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« Reply #91 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 10:17:34 »
I think you're gonna have problems doing A profile in the main set. Some people will want B-profile 1.5 keys too, so you'd have to do :

full 1.25x b-profile bottom row
1.5x + 1x b-profile keys
full 1.5x/1x a-profile bottom row

That's a lot of keys if you include ISO, windowed locks, 1.75x etc.

I think it's best to do a 'main set' and an 'extra set'. Just my thoughts :cool:
That's what I am thinking too, because included A profile in the main set would probably bring up the price a lot.  But I am afraid it couldn't reach the moq if separate it from the main set.  But yeah, it will depend on the price

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« Reply #92 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 10:25:14 »
Any hhkb support?

Will text be included on the enter, backspace, and shift keys?

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« Reply #93 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 10:41:26 »
Filled out an interest check!

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« Reply #94 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 10:41:49 »
Any hhkb support?

Will text be included on the enter, backspace, and shift keys?
HHKB layout need 2 1x r4,  1.75 right shift, and 1 1x r3 right?

The legend on the modifiers keys will depend on the interest

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« Reply #95 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 10:52:28 »
I think if do a repro, should do full repro with the original all caps legends, all white function row, and etc.
As far as A profile, well there is minimal extra needed for that. You would need an extra 3 arrows and numpad 0 numpad enter. 1.5 mods only in A and that would be a must if using the all caps CTRL since it is only available in A.
Proper colors would be N5/CP N5/U9.
Have an extra color pack for the N5/U9 4 F keys, ~` and \| then maybe some other select keys in CP/V4 like wasd, cursors, or whatever.

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« Reply #96 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 11:18:54 »
Any hhkb support?

Will text be included on the enter, backspace, and shift keys?
HHKB layout need 2 1x r4,  1.75 right shift, and 1 1x r3 right?

The legend on the modifiers keys will depend on the interest

HHKB will need:
  • R1 1x \|
  • R2 1.5x Del/Bksp
  • R3 1.75x Ctrl
  • R4 1.75x R-shift and 1x Fn
The bottom row of the HHKB is somewhat ambiguous due to the number of ways it can be configured via dip switches.  I think as long as you have some semblance of a Tsangan kit people will deal.

Offline Blackehart

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Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
« Reply #97 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 11:39:23 »
interested!

Form filled!

Offline Latin00032

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Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
« Reply #98 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 11:40:29 »
Any hhkb support?

Will text be included on the enter, backspace, and shift keys?
HHKB layout need 2 1x r4,  1.75 right shift, and 1 1x r3 right?

The legend on the modifiers keys will depend on the interest

HHKB will need:
  • R1 1x \|
  • R2 1.5x Del/Bksp
  • R3 1.75x Ctrl
  • R4 1.75x R-shift and 1x Fn
The bottom row of the HHKB is somewhat ambiguous due to the number of ways it can be configured via dip switches.  I think as long as you have some semblance of a Tsangan kit people will deal.
^ This.

Hopefully, enough people agree.

Offline dakuzo

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Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
« Reply #99 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 11:44:57 »
I'm in for this. Form has been filled.
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