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ne proper cyrillic legends avail
I was refering to legends outlined by T0mb3ry, those are correct ones (see GMK Perestroika/GMK Yuri). The thing is your subs using different font than latin legends. That threw me off. In terms of russian mods: they was made for typewriter and make no sense on the modern keyboards at all. It's bad idea to make it from a beginning. They fit SA (cause they are all caps and cause of profile/throwback to era of typewriters stuff) but doesn't fit cherry-ish profile at all.ne proper cyrillic legends avail
May I ask what's wrong with the legends? I'm not using OG cherry legends by choice. They are wrong.
I was refering to legends outlined by T0mb3ry, those are correct ones (see GMK Perestroika/GMK Yuri). The thing is your subs using different font than latin legends. That threw me off. In terms of russian mods: they was made for typewriter and make no sense on the modern keyboards at all. It's bad idea to make it from a beginning. They fit SA (cause they are all caps and cause of profile/throwback to era of typewriters stuff) but doesn't fit cherry-ish profile at all.ne proper cyrillic legends avail
May I ask what's wrong with the legends? I'm not using OG cherry legends by choice. They are wrong.
I mean, I get that most of the people would buy this just for looks, they don't care about how accurate legends/font/etc but I just can't bear with it.
Please consider adding an additional tab in one of the child kits! An additional tab would allow people to reuse the leftover mods + another alpha kit to fill out another (small, 60-65%) board.
I would suggest adding it to the accent kit, since you also need another Enter key to do that.
Also, light suggestion to consider using OG Icon style mods.
Other than that, beautiful, GLWIC
Are you confident EPBT won't have warping issues with this set, since they have with recently sets? (one of my EPBT sets has a spacebar that is basically a banana)
I'll think this over, but it it'll likely be a no. I don't really want to add duplicate keys if they will only be utilized in some specific use case.
I already structured the alphas in such a way so they could be used in combination with modifiers from a completely different set for a 60% or 65% if someone really wanted to.In terms of compatibility, there aren't that many other ePBT keysets that use that color (color-matched WS2 I'm assuming) - modernja, gok bow, & upcoming bow hangul afaik. And even if you used them together with those (or any other) sets, it still wouldn't solve the problem that an additional tab would: making use of all the leftover mods left in the modifier kit(s). You'd just be left with more mods.
I'll think this over, but it it'll likely be a no. I don't really want to add duplicate keys if they will only be utilized in some specific use case.
I know what you mean by it being a specific use case. I don't have any hard statistics to back it up and I'm sorry if this is a slippery slope or some other fallacy, but I think that an additional Tab is no more specific than something like F13, small(er) spacebars in base, 660 2.25u shift, or the Macro column kits.I already structured the alphas in such a way so they could be used in combination with modifiers from a completely different set for a 60% or 65% if someone really wanted to.In terms of compatibility, there aren't that many other ePBT keysets that use that color (color-matched WS2 I'm assuming) - modernja, gok bow, & upcoming bow hangul afaik. And even if you used them together with those (or any other) sets, it still wouldn't solve the problem that an additional tab would: making use of all the leftover mods left in the modifier kit(s). You'd just be left with more mods.
This concept is common with GMK sets that offer alternate alpha kits and extended compatibility - I'm not sure how it is with ePBT, but I feel like it if it can be done with GMK, then it can be done (maybe even better) with ePBT.
I get that it's kind of complicated since you're offering two styles of mods; there're probably a lot of variables to think about. Maybe I'm overstretching my assumptions.
Whatever happens I'm in. I just hope my ted talk gives some more insight and hopefully influences your decision.
Not only the font, but also some of the labels used for modifiers are not correct in terms of what they say if you try to mimic old Cyrillic keyboards. For example, Нчл and Кнц (Home and End) on the old keyboards I saw were saying НАЧ and КОН (short from Начало and Конец), Алт should have been АЛФ, etc. But nonetheless - I would prefer you left it as is, I really love how these things look like - all these "Забой", "Ввод", "Регистр", "Заглавные" - are just beautiful (in the exact font you have it in, with infographic where applicable), even though not technically authentic. If on top of that you price it well, I would be definitely buying it.
Why Cyrillic not red?
The 40s/ortho kit needs arrows, not everyone wants accent nav.
How do people feel about making the sublegends grey instead of black in the Latin + Cyrillic alphas?
How do people feel about making the sublegends grey instead of black in the Latin + Cyrillic alphas?
Mr Nu types, there are many kinds of gray. It would be helpful if you provided a color to show the little Treeleaf what you are thinking of.
Is this set still gonna be run?
I'm so freaking hyped about this, the GB can't come soon enough! I love the kitting, selling the black accent kits separate allows me to buy a few extras to use with my other ePBT WoB keysets. Great job, major kudos!
Updates:This approach makes a lot of sense. I hope others will follow your lead on this. Kudos!
- After further feedback, I've updated the RU mod backspace to Возврат from Забой.
- This set is likely not going to go into GB until Q3, as I'd like to have samples made prior to GB. I'm doing this because ePBT sample times have increased drastically (likely due to the increase in number of ePBT GBs over the past year). I think this is the best way to move forward, as it will reduce the turn around time after the GB with the added bonus of having something real to show before taking peoples money. I'm going to do this for all my future projects when possible.
Would be good to see latin subletters with Cyrillic main!
Why nobody make Capslocks (1.5, 1.25) for left Control position? Not onle HHKB users uses that =)
Would be good to see latin subletters with Cyrillic main!
Why nobody make Capslocks (1.5, 1.25) for left Control position? Not onle HHKB users uses that =)
I think Cyrillic alphas with no sublegends would look cleaner.
Then why needs Latin with Cyrillic subs?
Then why needs Latin with Cyrillic subs?
For the degens who can't touch type
I personally don't see why the extra tab is in the mods, because you could buy an alphas kit to put on another epbt set with the same white color and use the extra tab, but if you just buy one mod kit and one alphas kit, there is no use for the extra tab. The way I see it is that more people are going to buy a separate alphas kit to go with their mods from another set than somebody buying a mods kit for a random set of extra alphas that most people wouldn't have in the first place. If this could change, would deffo be in for a Cyrillic alphas kit.
Would be good to see latin subletters with Cyrillic main!
Why nobody make Capslocks (1.5, 1.25) for left Control position? Not onle HHKB users uses that =)
I personally don't see why the extra tab is in the mods, because you could buy an alphas kit to put on another epbt set with the same white color and use the extra tab, but if you just buy one mod kit and one alphas kit, there is no use for the extra tab. The way I see it is that more people are going to buy a separate alphas kit to go with their mods from another set than somebody buying a mods kit for a random set of extra alphas that most people wouldn't have in the first place. If this could change, would deffo be in for a Cyrillic alphas kit.
The extra tab is included in the mods because if you buy more than one alpha kit you can use one mod kit for two boards (i.e. a tkl and a 60%). The alphas as they currently are will work just fine if you want to mix them with mods from a different set.
I personally don't see why the extra tab is in the mods, because you could buy an alphas kit to put on another epbt set with the same white color and use the extra tab, but if you just buy one mod kit and one alphas kit, there is no use for the extra tab. The way I see it is that more people are going to buy a separate alphas kit to go with their mods from another set than somebody buying a mods kit for a random set of extra alphas that most people wouldn't have in the first place. If this could change, would deffo be in for a Cyrillic alphas kit.QuoteThe extra tab is included in the mods because if you buy more than one alpha kit you can use one mod kit for two boards (i.e. a tkl and a 60%). The alphas as they currently are will work just fine if you want to mix them with mods from a different set.
This is correct, but adding the extra tab into the alphas works just as well for buying multiple alphas kits. If you had the tab in the alphas, you could buy one mod kit and three alphas kits and have two of the alphas kits working with the mod kit from this set as well as the third alpha kit being able to fit a 60% with extra mods from another keyset.
With the tab being in the mods kit, I can't use the alphas kit with extra mods from another set, which I would be able to do if it was in the alphas.
If other sets started to do this type of kitting with the extra tab being in the mods, then yes it would be just fine, but all of the sets that use this same color white in this set, have not done that.
I personally don't see why the extra tab is in the mods, because you could buy an alphas kit to put on another epbt set with the same white color and use the extra tab, but if you just buy one mod kit and one alphas kit, there is no use for the extra tab. The way I see it is that more people are going to buy a separate alphas kit to go with their mods from another set than somebody buying a mods kit for a random set of extra alphas that most people wouldn't have in the first place. If this could change, would deffo be in for a Cyrillic alphas kit.QuoteThe extra tab is included in the mods because if you buy more than one alpha kit you can use one mod kit for two boards (i.e. a tkl and a 60%). The alphas as they currently are will work just fine if you want to mix them with mods from a different set.
This is correct, but adding the extra tab into the alphas works just as well for buying multiple alphas kits. If you had the tab in the alphas, you could buy one mod kit and three alphas kits and have two of the alphas kits working with the mod kit from this set as well as the third alpha kit being able to fit a 60% with extra mods from another keyset.
With the tab being in the mods kit, I can't use the alphas kit with extra mods from another set, which I would be able to do if it was in the alphas.
If other sets started to do this type of kitting with the extra tab being in the mods, then yes it would be just fine, but all of the sets that use this same color white in this set, have not done that.
If I added the tabs to the alphas (vs one key in the modifier kits) I would have to add two tabs to the alphas because there are two modifier options. I dont think it makes sense to do this on the off chance that someone wants to use the alphas with mods from another set but they're missing the tab key for some reason.
I'm optimizing kitting for my set, the ability to use the alphas with mods from another set is just an added bonus.