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Title: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova GB in 3 hours!
Post by: zF_ScrambledEggz on Wed, 04 April 2018, 10:19:58
Hi guys, ALF will be teaming up with zFrontier to bring you the ALF X3 Renova, a modern custom keyboard with a retro take.

Thick bezels, hefty blocks, oversized - this is the ALF X3. The blocky design is reminiscent of the classy and sexy look of the old keyboards from the past.

Features:
1. Seamless design: the bottom housing is covered by the upper housing, no seams to be found on 4 sides;

2. Two-piece top housing: the top housing features a two-piece design to introduce more colors and bring more flair to the classy look

3. Low-key side brass inserts

4. Multi-hex bottom weigh: hexagons are the most intriguing shape of the nature. Honeycombs, Tortoiseshell, Snowflakes, Cells, they all share this shape. And the straight line is the link to all hexagons, to all natural worlds. It is connecting everything just like the X3 is connecting Retro design to a modern keyboard.

5. K-mini layout: 65% main body + 10 macros to the left

6. RGB light strip

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Proto:
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*This is the prototype of the old version, the final version will have the indicator lights on the top right removed and replaced by 'RENOVA"

Please tell us what you think and I hope you will enjoy this board!

(P.S. ALF X2 are sitting in our warehouse and they will be ready to go once the remaining plates arrive on this Sunday. Shout out to fishpod who's been helping us posting for the X2)
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: fcoury on Wed, 04 April 2018, 10:25:21
This looks astonishing, I am totally in. Is there a ballpark price yet?
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: AMongoose on Wed, 04 April 2018, 10:27:27
Looks pretty good.

Renova is a toilet paper brand might want to reconsider engraving that.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Undrcontrl on Wed, 04 April 2018, 10:32:38
I could dig this board, depending on cost!
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: KaosJ on Wed, 04 April 2018, 10:40:32
Wow...

i do like a lot the weight shape, the separated top (internal) and how the bevels are rounded.
Just the oversized part at the top is not appealing to me, it could be smaller (like the bottom part) 

Example
(https://i.imgur.com/3BTkELm.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: gt1989 on Wed, 04 April 2018, 11:02:40
Wow...

i do like a lot the weight shape, the separated top (internal) and how the bevels are rounded.
Just the oversized part at the top is not appealing to me, it could be smaller (like the bottom part) 

Example
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/3BTkELm.jpg)


That's what I was thinking as well, I would definitely be more interested in something similar to this.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Sshimosawa on Wed, 04 April 2018, 11:05:44
This is fantastic. So in. 
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: idlemao on Wed, 04 April 2018, 11:16:43
Personally love the oversized part. That really gives the board its character and retro/vintage look to me. This is what I've been waiting for. Just hoping the cost isn't too too high.  :-*
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Wed, 04 April 2018, 11:32:39
Wow...

i do like a lot the weight shape, the separated top (internal) and how the bevels are rounded.
Just the oversized part at the top is not appealing to me, it could be smaller (like the bottom part) 

Example
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/3BTkELm.jpg)


That's what I was thinking as well, I would definitely be more interested in something similar to this.
While I agree the top is slightly too oversized, I also think the render made by KaosJ features a top bezel that is too small. How about a compromise? Something in between the OP renders and KaosJ render for the top bezel?

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Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Drclick on Wed, 04 April 2018, 11:39:24
Wow...

i do like a lot the weight shape, the separated top (internal) and how the bevels are rounded.
Just the oversized part at the top is not appealing to me, it could be smaller (like the bottom part) 

Example
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/3BTkELm.jpg)

That looks better!
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: M on Wed, 04 April 2018, 11:55:57
As someone who missed out on the X2, I'm excited. I just hope it doesn't end up out of my price range

edit: imo the indicator lights should stay
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 04 April 2018, 12:10:16
a lot going on but i kinda like it
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: YisSerL on Wed, 04 April 2018, 12:30:56
If you can reconsider keeping the indicator light, that would be great.

I like the indicator light than the word Renova in its place.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: //gainsborough on Wed, 04 April 2018, 13:40:15
This design is super cool!  Any chance of alps support?
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: idlemao on Wed, 04 April 2018, 13:41:54
This design is super cool!  Any chance of alps support?
:thumb: for asking this
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Unforgivable on Wed, 04 April 2018, 14:21:21
Hi guys, ALF will be teaming up with zFrontier to bring you the ALF X3 Renova, a modern custom keyboard with a retro take.

Thick bezels, hefty blocks, oversized - this is the ALF X3. The blocky design is reminiscent of the classy and sexy look of the old keyboards from the past.

Features:
1. Seamless design: the bottom housing is covered by the upper housing, no seams to be found on 4 sides;

2. Two-piece top housing: the top housing features a two-piece design to introduce more colors and bring more flair to the classy look

3. Low-key side brass inserts

4. Multi-hex bottom weigh: hexagons are the most intriguing shape of the nature. Honeycombs, Tortoiseshell, Snowflakes, Cells, they all share this shape. And the straight line is the link to all hexagons, to all natural worlds. It is connecting everything just like the X3 is connecting Retro design to a modern keyboard.

5. K-mini layout: 65% main body + 10 macros to the left

6. RGB light strip

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Proto:
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*This is the prototype of the old version, the final version will have the indicator lights on the top right removed and replaced by 'RENOVA"

Please tell us what you think and I hope you will enjoy this board!

(P.S. ALF X2 are sitting in our warehouse and they will be ready to go once the remaining plates arrive on this Sunday. Shout out to fishpod who's been helping us posting for the X2)

I like it! Count me in, but PLEASE tell ALF to not put a RENOVA logo on the board. I like the simple little led circles, it makes it look classy. And someone else said RENOVA is a toilet paper brand!

Completely my opinion of course.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Pwner on Wed, 04 April 2018, 14:33:54
Wow...

i do like a lot the weight shape, the separated top (internal) and how the bevels are rounded.
Just the oversized part at the top is not appealing to me, it could be smaller (like the bottom part) 

Example
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/3BTkELm.jpg)


Make your own board.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: odd on Wed, 04 April 2018, 14:58:00
I love this design. I liked the X2 but I have too many 60% boards so I didn't pick one up. Now 65% boards with left hand Macro keys I need more of so I am buying one of these no doubt. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: KaosJ on Wed, 04 April 2018, 15:44:24
Wow...

i do like a lot the weight shape, the separated top (internal) and how the bevels are rounded.
Just the oversized part at the top is not appealing to me, it could be smaller (like the bottom part) 

Example
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/3BTkELm.jpg)


Make your own board.

(https://i.imgur.com/lL26R3J.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Tree_ on Wed, 04 April 2018, 16:34:23
I like the large bezel, I do not like that the indicator lights are being replaced with a Renova engraving.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Wed, 04 April 2018, 16:52:42
Love the layout and retro theme. Only recommendation is that overall the bevels/chamfers are more rounded... retro plastic cases tended to have softer edges than this I thought
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: MajorKoos on Wed, 04 April 2018, 17:06:08
Very nice.
That thick top bezel is sublime.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: ihalatch on Wed, 04 April 2018, 20:51:17
Wow...

i do like a lot the weight shape, the separated top (internal) and how the bevels are rounded.
Just the oversized part at the top is not appealing to me, it could be smaller (like the bottom part) 

Example
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/3BTkELm.jpg)

That looks better!


+1
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: ptiede on Wed, 04 April 2018, 21:11:09
I'm personally a fan of the larger bezel on top
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: tireddoctor on Wed, 04 April 2018, 21:23:34
I would kill for this.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: mgsickler on Wed, 04 April 2018, 21:29:45
Too many cool looking boards coming out. I really really like the look of this.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: donut_sauce on Wed, 04 April 2018, 21:41:27
This looks great. I would also prefer it without the Renova logo.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 05 April 2018, 00:16:25
This big ass bezel and nothing on it?
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Peiweisgreat on Thu, 05 April 2018, 00:57:52
YES! I've been waiting for this, since I saw this on IG. Can we get a picture of what the "Renova" nameplate is going to look like? I enjoyed the look of the indicator lights, but I guess I can live without it.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 05 April 2018, 02:02:44
I'd prefer to have indicator lights.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: gilmoregrills on Thu, 05 April 2018, 03:25:24
I also would really prefer the indicator lights, but might get this anyway, it looks sweet!

Would there potentially be an option to have the top sections match? The shape of the case is pretty nuts already so it would be nice to have a more understated option
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: hansichen on Thu, 05 April 2018, 05:27:26
A one piece top and no hole in the blocker between the F keys and the alphas would look way better imo. The layout isn't that bad but the design is not really appealing at the moment
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: boxfrommoon on Thu, 05 April 2018, 05:54:34
Looks super clean! And as most of us have said I too would prefer to have indicator lights instead of the logo. And the top bezel looks great!
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: online on Thu, 05 April 2018, 06:06:54
Is this support other layout? Split Spacebar?


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Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 05 April 2018, 06:14:06
I've already got a Z-150 :P

But seriously very cool design, wasn't expecting to like it as much as I do. Think the weight is a little too busy, but the rest is excellent.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: vewy_nice on Thu, 05 April 2018, 09:45:22
That weight/bottom plate look expensive :o

But this is an awesome looking board. 
The insert color combinations are awesome!
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: peggisan on Thu, 05 April 2018, 16:11:37
Looks amazing. Instabuy if it isn't too expensive
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: cucgach on Thu, 05 April 2018, 20:15:30
Please re-consider engraving Renova :)
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: 69420swag on Thu, 05 April 2018, 23:02:25
Please re-consider engraving Renova :)

+1
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: objex on Fri, 06 April 2018, 04:29:07
Interested in this, and I also prefer the original indicator lights design rather than the name engraving. The subtle logo on the left part of the top bezel is ok though, I don't mind that. Ideally, I would remove all visible branding, but that's ok. I like the weights but would like them better in stainless steel or something silver or black. Overall, this is a really cool design!
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: floristfran on Fri, 06 April 2018, 05:58:22
perfect layout  :eek: interested af
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Starston3 on Fri, 06 April 2018, 06:53:09
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Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: long_qt_pie on Fri, 06 April 2018, 12:27:18
I loved the grey with orange insert
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: peggisan on Fri, 06 April 2018, 12:36:49
Will the pcb use USB C, micro, or mini? Also will it have the built in USB hub like ALFx2 and will the plate support switchtop opening??
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: M on Fri, 06 April 2018, 23:33:39
Will the pcb use USB C, micro, or mini? Also will it have the built in USB hub like ALFx2 and will the plate support switchtop opening??

Curious about these things as well
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 07 April 2018, 00:16:19
I like this board, including the large bezels.  As others mentioned, I’d keep the indicator LEDs as in the renders and skip the logo that’s supposed to replace them.  The indicators are part of the charm—there’s already another logo on the left.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 07 April 2018, 00:22:35
I like this board, including the large bezels.  As others mentioned, I’d keep the indicator LEDs as in the renders and skip the logo that’s supposed to replace them.  The indicators are part of the charm—there’s already another logo on the left.

agree with photoe
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: lemur on Sat, 07 April 2018, 02:16:59
another vote that indicator lights stay...

when i saw 'retro' inspired.. and saw indicator lights i thought 'yep! perfect!' ------then scroll down and see theyre going to be removed and replaced with a logo.... and thought that it would lose the thing that I thought captured the 'retro' feel most at first glance.

logos *were* a big thing in the old boards.. but so were big banks of indicator lights.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: nathanchere on Sat, 07 April 2018, 07:54:23
Wow...

i do like a lot the weight shape, the separated top (internal) and how the bevels are rounded.
Just the oversized part at the top is not appealing to me, it could be smaller (like the bottom part) 

Example
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/3BTkELm.jpg)


The original design is way too chunky and defeats the purpose of a minimal keyboard for me.
Your edit is excellent though. Would be tempted to buy if the price was right.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 07 April 2018, 08:01:54
Wow...

i do like a lot the weight shape, the separated top (internal) and how the bevels are rounded.
Just the oversized part at the top is not appealing to me, it could be smaller (like the bottom part) 

Example
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/3BTkELm.jpg)


The original design is way too chunky and defeats the purpose of a minimal keyboard for me.
Your edit is excellent though. Would be tempted to buy if the price was right.


Well thanks. I doubt that would ever happen since they have the sample already which means the design will most likely not change.   
I would kinda like even something in the middle between my edit and their prototype, i just feel the current one is a bit too large. 
Also agree with some other people who said indicators should stay and not be replaced by the engrave, the indicators on their sample looks good.   
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: zF_ScrambledEggz on Sun, 08 April 2018, 10:41:25
 :thumb: Got some amazing news for you!

We just received the sample from ALF and man thats a beautiful board! The board looks sleek in real life despite the thicc top bezel :) will have some photos up soon!

Also, ALF will be offering 2 options for the top piece: One will have 3 indicator lights as shown in the pictures and one will have the Renova Logo engrave.  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: donut_sauce on Sun, 08 April 2018, 10:45:06
:thumb: Got some amazing news for you!

We just received the sample from ALF and man thats a beautiful board! The board looks sleek in real life despite the thicc top bezel :) will have some photos up soon!

Also, ALF will be offering 2 options for the top piece: One will have 3 indicator lights as shown in the pictures and one will have the Renova Logo engrave.  ;)
Awesome, thanks for being flexible on top piece design. Definitely in for 1 with indicator lights :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: boxfrommoon on Sun, 08 April 2018, 10:57:18
:thumb: Got some amazing news for you!

We just received the sample from ALF and man thats a beautiful board! The board looks sleek in real life despite the thicc top bezel :) will have some photos up soon!

Also, ALF will be offering 2 options for the top piece: One will have 3 indicator lights as shown in the pictures and one will have the Renova Logo engrave.  ;)

So good to hear! One with indicator lights for me please! Can't wait to see pictures
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: long_qt_pie on Sun, 08 April 2018, 11:33:00
Any chance we can order multiple inserts to change up the accent color?
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: lecorsair on Sun, 08 April 2018, 15:14:36
Definitely interested. Love the k-miniesque layout, but the two-tone frame definitely gives this board its own uniqueness.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: M on Sun, 08 April 2018, 17:17:59
:thumb: Got some amazing news for you!

We just received the sample from ALF and man thats a beautiful board! The board looks sleek in real life despite the thicc top bezel :) will have some photos up soon!

Also, ALF will be offering 2 options for the top piece: One will have 3 indicator lights as shown in the pictures and one will have the Renova Logo engrave.  ;)

This seals the deal for me. When you take pics of the sample try to get one of what the weight looks like from the bottom pls :)
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 08 April 2018, 17:54:45
:thumb: Got some amazing news for you!

We just received the sample from ALF and man thats a beautiful board! The board looks sleek in real life despite the thicc top bezel :) will have some photos up soon!

Also, ALF will be offering 2 options for the top piece: One will have 3 indicator lights as shown in the pictures and one will have the Renova Logo engrave.  ;)

Looking forward to seeing the prototype photographs!  Great news about the 3-indicator light option being included.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: lecorsair on Sun, 08 April 2018, 22:50:13
Any idea if this is a limited GB (lottery for spots), or open FCFS. Wondering whether to keep my hopes up or not - never been favored by the RNG god =p
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Tree_ on Sun, 08 April 2018, 23:09:23
Any idea if this is a limited GB (lottery for spots), or open FCFS. Wondering whether to keep my hopes up or not - never been favored by the RNG god =p

Previous Alf runs through zFrontier haven't had a limit.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 11 April 2018, 20:31:23
Very interested. Hopefully, we can stay below $300 including shipping.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: zwartho on Wed, 11 April 2018, 22:53:45
Love the retro chunkiness. I’m totally in if the price is reasonable.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Kavik on Wed, 11 April 2018, 23:13:10
Layout looks awesome as does the two piece top. The edges look a little sharp though.

I am interested in this even though I don't want to spend any more money on keyboards. Eager to see what pricing will be.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: smithyithy on Thu, 12 April 2018, 15:20:10
Saw this teased a while ago. I'm 100% in, that white (microarc?) and purple is perfection. I love the retro style
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Trente on Fri, 13 April 2018, 01:37:24
OMG this looks sooooop COOL!
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: rioc on Sun, 15 April 2018, 04:29:28
noice
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 17 April 2018, 01:35:44
GB live on the Chinese site, any updates?

https://www.zfrontier.com/m/3596
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: smithyithy on Tue, 17 April 2018, 04:45:06
GB live on the Chinese site, any updates?

https://www.zfrontier.com/m/3596

Translated that page and it's saying it's Bluetooth, which wasn't mentioned on the original post, hmm..

Also says that it's limited to 40 sets - 10 of each colour - that must refer to the Bluetooth-specific version, surely?

I hope that's the case anyway cause I really want one, and ALF X2 was ran on the English site like a regular GB
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 17 April 2018, 04:47:29
GB live on the Chinese site, any updates?

https://www.zfrontier.com/m/3596

Translated that page and it's saying it's Bluetooth, which wasn't mentioned on the original post, hmm..

Also says that it's limited to 40 sets - 10 of each colour - that must refer to the Bluetooth-specific version, surely?

I hope that's the case anyway cause I really want one, and ALF X2 was ran on the English site like a regular GB
Yeah the limited to 10 per colour is a bummer if true, don't much care for bluetooth.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: lecorsair on Tue, 17 April 2018, 10:48:42
zF,

Any update on this groupbuy, relative to the new info on the China availability? Really looking forward to this design, any info would be really appreciated.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: peggisan on Tue, 17 April 2018, 11:03:02
GB live on the Chinese site, any updates?

https://www.zfrontier.com/m/3596

Translated that page and it's saying it's Bluetooth, which wasn't mentioned on the original post, hmm..

Also says that it's limited to 40 sets - 10 of each colour - that must refer to the Bluetooth-specific version, surely?

I hope that's the case anyway cause I really want one, and ALF X2 was ran on the English site like a regular GB
Yeah the limited to 10 per colour is a bummer if true, don't much care for bluetooth.

Also looks like its going to cost around 440 USD. Going to be way out of budget if the price is kept
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 17 April 2018, 11:24:26
GB live on the Chinese site, any updates?

https://www.zfrontier.com/m/3596

Translated that page and it's saying it's Bluetooth, which wasn't mentioned on the original post, hmm..

Also says that it's limited to 40 sets - 10 of each colour - that must refer to the Bluetooth-specific version, surely?

I hope that's the case anyway cause I really want one, and ALF X2 was ran on the English site like a regular GB
Yeah the limited to 10 per colour is a bummer if true, don't much care for bluetooth.

Also looks like its going to cost around 440 USD. Going to be way out of budget if the price is kept
If that's the case, regarding the pricing, then that's unfortunate. The X2 was very competitively priced and I was hoping this would be the same too.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 17 April 2018, 12:45:09
Yeah quite expensive.  Could be because of the low number of units (only 40 total), but still could be lower.  I was hoping for under $300, then I would definitely join for white/purple version.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Darknight00z on Tue, 17 April 2018, 13:18:24
Its closer to $500 (converted from RMB) if you select the weight option.

Might be a pass for me as well. Such a shame. Rama m60 is $360 base option. Puts things into perspective.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: idlemao on Tue, 17 April 2018, 16:03:39
Its closer to $500 (converted from RMB) if you select the weight option.

Might be a pass for me as well. Such a shame. Rama m60 is $360 base option. Puts things into perspective.
Agree with this. It sucks because the white/purple looks really good with Hyperfuse. Between this and Rama m60, gonna go for the latter.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: M on Wed, 18 April 2018, 01:19:57
zF,

Any update on this groupbuy, relative to the new info on the China availability? Really looking forward to this design, any info would be really appreciated.

Would like to get an update too, sitting here constantly F5-ing zfrontier haha
Title: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: dimo on Wed, 18 April 2018, 10:25:08
Damn... close to $500? Definitely out of my range, sucks, I had a good build planned with it.

alice killed my budget tho, i’ll be in if it’s $300




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Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: M on Sat, 21 April 2018, 01:25:31
Looks like the kits on the chinese zfrontier have sold out, any idea when it's gonna run on the international site?
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: lecorsair on Sat, 21 April 2018, 02:57:36
Wonder why that was limited to 40, rather odd quqntity.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: KeLorean on Sat, 21 April 2018, 08:31:29
im all bout this. bluetooth-dont care; light indicators-dope; top bezel-no preference bc they both look noice!


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Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: zF_ScrambledEggz on Wed, 25 April 2018, 08:44:58
 :thumb:

Hello fellas!

Some more specs are up for you guys:

Yes, this board will support bluetooth, the chip will be MDBT40, powered by a lithium battery

Multiple backlight effects

Side weights will be mirror finish brass, the bottom insert will be default aluminum, upgradable to brass

finalizing the sample and testing on the PCB, will be there soon ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Baddy126 on Wed, 25 April 2018, 13:45:39
Sorry if i've missed it somewhere in the post. Will there be split backspace support?
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Poesjuh on Wed, 25 April 2018, 16:44:30
Can we have an “official” price estimate though? Rough estimates linking to the Asian GB say about $500 but I’d like to hear it from the IC host here :)

Mister ScrambledEggs?


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Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: papa on Fri, 27 April 2018, 10:56:06
I've heard the firmware is based on TMK but it's not open sourced. Can you confirm? :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Windeh on Sun, 29 April 2018, 01:50:23
Definitely interested in the White/Purple. Will there be a limited number to purchase, and is the group buy FCFS?

Lastly, what is the switch plate material? looks like aluminium?
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: zF_ScrambledEggz on Wed, 02 May 2018, 02:09:03
 ;D

Hi guys,

An update regarding the buy:

The buy will begin on May, 4th 9pm pdt on our English site

Link soon!

40 units. FCFS

$478 shipped via DHL

Specs:

Alu Housing,
Alu Mid piece,
Alu Plate,
Mirror Brass Side Pieces,
Alu Insert (upgradable to brass: +$48)
PCB powered by ydkb.io,
Bluetooth support

4 color combos available:
    mid-piece and bottom insert / case and plate
a. purple / white
b. green / silver
c. orange / titanium gray
d. red / black

white will be something whiter than MAO white ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: M on Wed, 02 May 2018, 02:29:50
;D

Hi guys,

An update regarding the buy:

The buy will begin on May, 4th 9pm pdt on our English site

Link soon!

40 units. FCFS

$478 shipped via DHL

Specs:

Alu Housing,
Alu Mid piece,
Alu Plate,
Mirror Brass Side Pieces,
Alu Insert (upgradable to brass: +$48)
PCB powered by ydkb.io,
Bluetooth support

4 color combos available:
    mid-piece and bottom insert / case and plate
a. purple / white
b. green / silver
c. orange / titanium gray
d. red / black

white will be something whiter than MAO white ;D

Thanks for the update, sad to see how expensive it is though  :(
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: KeLorean on Wed, 02 May 2018, 06:47:27
what is the layout/ key sizes on this board? just want to know what keysets i might have that could fit it.


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Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: Poesjuh on Wed, 02 May 2018, 06:49:43
God this board is sexy AF BOIS but that price though... makes me sad :(
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: donut_sauce on Wed, 02 May 2018, 07:26:33

white will be something whiter than MAO white ;D
It would be great to know how the white is going to be achieved before launch. Coating (Powder/Cerakote)?
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: dimo on Wed, 02 May 2018, 07:27:27
yeesh, steep price, good thing I stuck with the orange75 instead.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 02 May 2018, 11:04:04
Sad it’s so expensive, probably due to low number of kits.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: dimo on Wed, 02 May 2018, 11:05:56
Sad it’s so expensive, probably due to low number of kits.

Probably would have sold with more kits if more were available. Understand why they stuck to 40 at least!


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Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: garbo on Wed, 02 May 2018, 12:17:39

white will be something whiter than MAO white ;D
It would be great to know how the white is going to be achieved before launch. Coating (Powder/Cerakote)?

This is mentioned in a zfrontier news post https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/5941
It seems that they have a proprietary method of anodisation. Here's the relevant quote, questionably translated by google:

Quote
"As we all know, anodizing can not be made pure white, the closest to white is frosted silver, as a substitute for the micro-arc white, because of its vulnerability, easy to dirty features, can not always be used as a "white" customized keyboard solution. Black and white as the timeless classic color, the pure white metal customization has always been our goal, and we have also sought various solutions. We have finally completed the customization of pure white metal on this generation of X3. .

On the basis of pure white color, bid farewell to the shortcomings of micro-arc vulnerable to dirty, feel smooth, wear-resistant does not fade, the process is temporarily confidential (trace messages, and a fool to wear notebooks with the process to fight a single)."

Edit: Never mind, I just re-read that and it looks like I'd remembered it wrong. They don't actually explain what they're doing to achieve the whiteness...
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 02 May 2018, 12:21:52
Quote
(trace messages, and a fool to wear notebooks with the process to fight a single)."

That's some of the best google translate Engrish I've seen in a while.  Still trying to decipher what it means.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: ptiede on Wed, 02 May 2018, 12:28:36
Man this is expensive but I think I have to get it anyways.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: Starston3 on Wed, 02 May 2018, 12:29:52
Yep... this is must buy for me. that white / purple with hyperfuse origins is going to look so sweet.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: Peppermint216 on Wed, 02 May 2018, 13:05:28
White purple for me too, seems like the only colour people are interested in.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: dimo on Wed, 02 May 2018, 13:11:17
White purple for me too, seems like the only colour people are interested in.

Gray Green or Orange would look great with sa song

Too bad I can’t afford it :P
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: ptiede on Wed, 02 May 2018, 13:20:44
White purple for me too, seems like the only colour people are interested in.

I am also in for that color. Most likely with gmk violet tendencies.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: Poesjuh on Wed, 02 May 2018, 15:08:36
I actually think the best option would be for the 40 kits to be able to choose your base and accent color instead of these 4 fixed ones.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: AuthenticDanger on Wed, 02 May 2018, 15:26:42
I actually think the best option would be for the 40 kits to be able to choose your base and accent color instead of these 4 fixed ones.

I 100% agree. I'd love Red with a grey shell.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: Peiweisgreat on Wed, 02 May 2018, 17:44:08
Yeah Id love a green/white combo for this board.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: lecorsair on Wed, 02 May 2018, 20:34:51
I agree, for this price, one should be able to freely choose accent colors.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: unmuscular_michael on Wed, 02 May 2018, 22:01:28
Just got the notification e-mail for this. I really wish they'd allow plate/case selection too - white with red would look great with Honeywell.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: ihalatch on Wed, 02 May 2018, 23:21:23
Yes, it's very expensive and out of reach for me :(
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: Starius on Thu, 03 May 2018, 08:00:47
I've been monitoring this thread for awhile, and never actually felt the need to create a account here and participate.  That is, until now... because I have a couple things I just wanted to verify before taking a stab at the group buy tomorrow night.

1. Am I correct in assuming that this is still a "kit keyboard," in that no switches or keycaps come with it?
2. If so, does. the PCB have hot swap sockets or will the buyer need to solder their switches?
3. Will anything else be required separately to make it fully functional?  Such as stabilizers?
4. I know the keyboard has bluetooth, but does it also have a USB port?  And if so, which type of USB?

And finally,
5.  With only 40 offered in the Asian market and 40 offered in the western market, are we just looking at a total of 80 boards in existence for the X3 Renova?  Is this a one time run or might it be offered again in the future?


 
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: Peppermint216 on Thu, 03 May 2018, 08:19:34
I've been monitoring this thread for awhile, and never actually felt the need to create a account here and participate.  That is, until now... because I have a couple things I just wanted to verify before taking a stab at the group buy tomorrow night.

1. Am I correct in assuming that this is still a "kit keyboard," in that no switches or keycaps come with it?
2. If so, does. the PCB have hot swap sockets or will the buyer need to solder their switches?
3. Will anything else be required separately to make it fully functional?  Such as stabilizers?
4. I know the keyboard has bluetooth, but does it also have a USB port?  And if so, which type of USB?

And finally,
5.  With only 40 offered in the Asian market and 40 offered in the western market, are we just looking at a total of 80 boards in existence for the X3 Renova?  Is this a one time run or might it be offered again in the future?

From what we know:

1. Correct.
2. Soldered switches.
3. Stabs, switches and keycaps, possibly leds for the indicator top.
4. Yes, unknown port, probably mini usb.
5. 80 yes if they sell out, unknown future buys.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: Starius on Thu, 03 May 2018, 09:08:03
I've been monitoring this thread for awhile, and never actually felt the need to create a account here and participate.  That is, until now... because I have a couple things I just wanted to verify before taking a stab at the group buy tomorrow night.

1. Am I correct in assuming that this is still a "kit keyboard," in that no switches or keycaps come with it?
2. If so, does. the PCB have hot swap sockets or will the buyer need to solder their switches?
3. Will anything else be required separately to make it fully functional?  Such as stabilizers?
4. I know the keyboard has bluetooth, but does it also have a USB port?  And if so, which type of USB?

And finally,
5.  With only 40 offered in the Asian market and 40 offered in the western market, are we just looking at a total of 80 boards in existence for the X3 Renova?  Is this a one time run or might it be offered again in the future?

From what we know:

1. Correct.
2. Soldered switches.
3. Stabs, switches and keycaps, possibly leds for the indicator top.
4. Yes, unknown port, probably mini usb.
5. 80 yes if they sell out, unknown future buys.

Thank you for the reply, Peppermint.  I appreciate it.
One follow up question..... (and forgive me if this is a newbie-ish question) Would this board require the plate mount style of stabilizer, opposed to the pcb screw in style? 
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: Peppermint216 on Thu, 03 May 2018, 09:50:58
No it will need PCB mount. Not all PCB mount are screw-in.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: Starius on Thu, 03 May 2018, 10:57:14
Looks like we now have a ALF X3 Renova placeholder page up, with ALF X2 content inside....

https://en.zfrontier.com/products/group-buy-alf-x3-renova (https://en.zfrontier.com/products/group-buy-alf-x3-renova)
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 03 May 2018, 11:01:40
Looks like we now have a ALF X3 Renova placeholder page up, with ALF X2 content inside....

https://en.zfrontier.com/products/group-buy-alf-x3-renova (https://en.zfrontier.com/products/group-buy-alf-x3-renova)

zFrontier shows its old group buy webpages even after group buys have closed.  It's likely not a placeholder, and X3 will have its own page.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: Peppermint216 on Thu, 03 May 2018, 11:08:19
It does say ALF X3 Renova....
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 03 May 2018, 11:09:41
It does say ALF X3 Renova....

Oh yeah, I should have looked :facepalm:  If only that price were correct, sigh.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: Peppermint216 on Thu, 03 May 2018, 11:12:41
It does say ALF X3 Renova....

Oh yeah, I should have looked :facepalm:  If only that price were correct, sigh.
Haha I thought the same.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: Starius on Thu, 03 May 2018, 12:07:38
And now the page disappeared. 

Guess we weren't supposed to see that just yet. ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: zF_ScrambledEggz on Fri, 04 May 2018, 02:57:16
Yup guys;)

A little updates regarding colors and usb before the buy:

MINI - USB
and
The aluminum insert and mid-piece will have the same color, four options - purple, green, red, orange
The housing and plate will have the same color, four options - white, silver, gray, black

And Yes, you don’t have to go with the combos I mentioned previously.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: Peppermint216 on Fri, 04 May 2018, 02:59:08
Yup guys;)

A little updates regarding colors and usb before the buy:

MINI - USB
and
The aluminum insert and mid-piece will have the same color, four options - purple, green, red, orange
The housing and plate will have the same color, four options - white, silver, gray, black

And Yes, you don’t have to go with the combos I mentioned previously.
So in a way it's 40 fcfs of any colour?
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: zF_ScrambledEggz on Fri, 04 May 2018, 04:10:16
Yup guys;)

A little updates regarding colors and usb before the buy:

MINI - USB
and
The aluminum insert and mid-piece will have the same color, four options - purple, green, red, orange
The housing and plate will have the same color, four options - white, silver, gray, black

And Yes, you don’t have to go with the combos I mentioned previously.
So in a way it's 40 fcfs of any colour?

40 units in total, color does not affect the total number.
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: zF_ScrambledEggz on Fri, 04 May 2018, 12:16:14
I actually think the best option would be for the 40 kits to be able to choose your base and accent color instead of these 4 fixed ones.

I 100% agree. I'd love Red with a grey shell.

 :thumb: and now you could do that!
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: Peppermint216 on Fri, 04 May 2018, 12:28:29
What are the layout options?
Title: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: Poesjuh on Fri, 04 May 2018, 17:08:14
I actually think the best option would be for the 40 kits to be able to choose your base and accent color instead of these 4 fixed ones.

I 100% agree. I'd love Red with a grey shell.

 :thumb: and now you could do that!
NAISUUUUUU. For those ordering that is


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Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova (price and more!)
Post by: zF_ScrambledEggz on Fri, 04 May 2018, 19:43:11
GB will begin in less than 3 hours ;D

GB post already submitted https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95452.0
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova GB in 3 hours!
Post by: Starius on Fri, 04 May 2018, 23:27:51
Do you guys think these stabilizers will work well with the Renova PCB?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/transparent-gold-plated-pcb-mount-screw-in-stabilizers (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/transparent-gold-plated-pcb-mount-screw-in-stabilizers)
Title: Re: [IC] Retro + Innovation = ALF X3 Renova GB in 3 hours!
Post by: ptiede on Sat, 05 May 2018, 00:17:54
Do you guys think these stabilizers will work well with the Renova PCB?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/transparent-gold-plated-pcb-mount-screw-in-stabilizers (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/transparent-gold-plated-pcb-mount-screw-in-stabilizers)

Yep! Zeal stabs are expensive though.