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Offline eth0s

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #150 on: Sat, 21 June 2014, 20:14:33 »
Let’s sum up the arguments here, for why the HHKB is said to be better than other keyboards:
pros
• 60% form factor => this argument isn’t HHKB specific
• Ctrl key in place of Caps Lock => You can do that with any other programmable keyboard
• Backspace/Delete placement => what’s so special about it, that a 60% keyboard can’t do?
• aesthetics => de gustibus non est disputandum
• Topre switches => ok, but again not HHKB specific
cons
• overpriced
• controller not programmable
• Topre switches are not compatible with MX keycaps
• arrow keys aren’t easily accessable




Hmm, well your cons are simply wrong:

• overpriced - not for the quality you get.
• controller not programmable - how many keyboards have this, besides customs?
• Topre switches are not compatible with MX keycaps - umm, yes.  Is this a problem though?
• arrow keys aren’t easily accessable [sic] - this is not true.  The arrow keys are actually more accessible than on a "regular" MX keyboard.  You don't have to move your right hand away from the main alpha keys.  You learn to use your right hand and Fn key for arrows quite easily.


Also, you forgot one big "pro":

• Vikings love the HHKB Pro 2.
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #151 on: Sat, 21 June 2014, 20:20:29 »
Let’s sum up the arguments here, for why the HHKB is said to be better than other keyboards:
pros
• 60% form factor => this argument isn’t HHKB specific
• Ctrl key in place of Caps Lock => You can do that with any other programmable keyboard
• Backspace/Delete placement => what’s so special about it, that a 60% keyboard can’t do?
• aesthetics => de gustibus non est disputandum
• Topre switches => ok, but again not HHKB specific
cons
• overpriced
• controller not programmable
• Topre switches are not compatible with MX keycaps
• arrow keys aren’t easily accessable

You don't have to bother with programming your keyboard if you have the HHKB. Case mounted Topre switches are HHKB specific. Arrow keys are 1 Fn press away, besides you could get the jp version if you desperately need the arrows.
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #152 on: Sat, 21 June 2014, 20:21:27 »
Let’s sum up the arguments here, for why the HHKB is said to be better than other keyboards:
pros
• 60% form factor => this argument isn’t HHKB specific
• Ctrl key in place of Caps Lock => You can do that with any other programmable keyboard
• Backspace/Delete placement => what’s so special about it, that a 60% keyboard can’t do?
• aesthetics => de gustibus non est disputandum
• Topre switches => ok, but again not HHKB specific
cons
• overpriced
• controller not programmable
• Topre switches are not compatible with MX keycaps
• arrow keys aren’t easily accessable

You don't have to bother with programming your keyboard if you have the HHKB. Case mounted Topre switches are HHKB specific. Arrow keys are 1 Fn press away, besides you could get the jp version if you desperately need the arrows.

I don't see the problem with using right pinky finger for the Fn key, and just using arrows with Index and Pointer fingers?
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #153 on: Sat, 21 June 2014, 21:04:33 »
It has the best layout for a 60% board. I wish I knew the benefits of the HHKB layout earlier, so I would have ordered my GH60 in this exact layout.
The only 60% that can come with type-s.

People like topre, people like 60%, therefore people like hhkb.

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #154 on: Sat, 21 June 2014, 21:05:36 »
It has the best layout for a 60% board. I wish I knew the benefits of the HHKB layout earlier, so I would have ordered my GH60 in this exact layout.
The only 60% that can come with type-s.

People like topre, people like 60%, therefore people like hhkb.

Cons: ****ty feet, poor keycap availability.
         

The first con can be solved for $.60, and the second is just a sad reality =( The only downfall of the board.
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #155 on: Sat, 21 June 2014, 21:07:42 »
I love my HHKB(s). There are a couple of annoying things though. Available replacement keycap variety is severely lacking. Also if you are playing games that require right hand on mouse and left hand on arrows (though this might be inherently true (for me) for any 60% keyboard).
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #156 on: Sat, 21 June 2014, 21:11:46 »
When I first saw the layout of the HHKB, I wasn't sure how it'd be. To be honest, it works quite well in my opinion. I had a poker II and I thought it was smart using the wasd + fn. With the HHKB, the fn is next to my pinky and my index finger can hit the arrow cluster easier.

It is understandable that it's hard to find keycaps for these boards. However, maybe in the future we'd see some adapters that will let us use cherry mx caps (saw a prototype around here).

exitfire is right about the feet. I just went to home depot and bought some rubber pads for a dollar something, cut it up, slapped it on and now it's perfect.

Besides Vikings loving the HHKB, so do Mongolians  :p
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #157 on: Sat, 21 June 2014, 21:12:29 »
Let’s sum up the arguments here, for why the HHKB is said to be better than other keyboards:
pros
• 60% form factor => this argument isn’t HHKB specific
• Ctrl key in place of Caps Lock => You can do that with any other programmable keyboard
• Backspace/Delete placement => what’s so special about it, that a 60% keyboard can’t do?
• aesthetics => de gustibus non est disputandum
• Topre switches => ok, but again not HHKB specific
cons
• overpriced
• controller not programmable
• Topre switches are not compatible with MX keycaps
• arrow keys aren’t easily accessable

You don't have to bother with programming your keyboard if you have the HHKB. Case mounted Topre switches are HHKB specific. Arrow keys are 1 Fn press away, besides you could get the jp version if you desperately need the arrows.

I don't see the problem with using right pinky finger for the Fn key, and just using arrows with Index and Pointer fingers?

Isn't that how everyone does it? I've found the arrow keys really easy to use.
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #158 on: Sat, 21 June 2014, 21:20:54 »
cons
• Topre switches are not compatible with MX keycaps

Resolved (mostly) by this.
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #159 on: Sat, 21 June 2014, 22:12:02 »
I was interested in one but I do use my arrow keys a lot and I see the hhkb does not have them. I use them when programming.

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #160 on: Sat, 21 June 2014, 22:14:59 »
I was interested in one but I do use my arrow keys a lot and I see the hhkb does not have them. I use them when programming.

HHKB does have arrow keys.  You have to use Fn key to access them.  It is easy.  Like anybody can do it.



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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #161 on: Sat, 21 June 2014, 22:21:07 »
I was interested in one but I do use my arrow keys a lot and I see the hhkb does not have them. I use them when programming.

HHKB Pro 2 has non-dedicated arrow keys, so you'll have to use Fn to access them. The HHKB Pro 2 JP however, has dedicated arrow keys.
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #162 on: Sat, 21 June 2014, 22:22:24 »
I was interested in one but I do use my arrow keys a lot and I see the hhkb does not have them. I use them when programming.

HHKB does have arrow keys.  You have to use Fn key to access them.  It is easy.  Like anybody can do it.

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I dont know if I would want to pres fn when accessing them lol, cause I use them a  lot.

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #163 on: Sun, 22 June 2014, 01:46:12 »
I was interested in one but I do use my arrow keys a lot and I see the hhkb does not have them. I use them when programming.

HHKB does have arrow keys.  You have to use Fn key to access them.  It is easy.  Like anybody can do it.

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Like zoinks.

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I dont know if I would want to pres fn when accessing them lol, cause I use them a  lot.

For me, their placement became second nature so quickly that I didn't miss having dedicated arrow keys. Once you get used to it I found that it was even easier than using shift to capitalize a letter.
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #164 on: Sun, 22 June 2014, 03:52:16 »
I was interested in one but I do use my arrow keys a lot and I see the hhkb does not have them. I use them when programming.

HHKB does have arrow keys.  You have to use Fn key to access them.  It is easy.  Like anybody can do it.

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Like zoinks.

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I dont know if I would want to pres fn when accessing them lol, cause I use them a  lot.

For me, their placement became second nature so quickly that I didn't miss having dedicated arrow keys. Once you get used to it I found that it was even easier than using shift to capitalize a letter.

That's how I think I'll end up as well. I mean, on the Poker 2 etc I was scared how it would be to press the arrow keys + shift + ctrl. I use that a lot when editing text documents (I do that quite a lot), but when I'm able to press the arrowkeys with ONLY my left hand, it'll be easy to press shift and ctrl as well. In all fairness, I would have to move my fingers LESS than when using a TKL or fullsize :D So the placement of the Fn button is a big deal for me!

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #165 on: Sun, 22 June 2014, 04:44:49 »
• Vikings love the HHKB Pro 2.

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #166 on: Sun, 22 June 2014, 21:41:14 »
I hate you all.  Without even trying, you may have talked me into this keyboard.  I've already swapped Control and Caps Lock.  (Including the caps.  I have a Sun Type 7, which you could actually get in a very similar layout, so the caps are the same size.)  I was hoping that it would feel totally alien and awkward and that I could use it to talk myself out of a HHKB.  But instead, I immediately adjusted to it and now can't imagine going back to the "normal" layout.

In a last-ditch attempt to save myself almost $300, I'm going to take apart this Model M that's been sitting in the garage for the past 10 years or so, clean it, buy a PS/2-to-USB adapter (no PS/2 ports on any of my computers), and see if that will satisfy me.

Although I am half Danish.  Apparently, this means that the HHKB might be inevitable.

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #167 on: Sun, 22 June 2014, 22:52:19 »
I hate you all.  Without even trying, you may have talked me into this keyboard.  I've already swapped Control and Caps Lock.  (Including the caps.  I have a Sun Type 7, which you could actually get in a very similar layout, so the caps are the same size.)  I was hoping that it would feel totally alien and awkward and that I could use it to talk myself out of a HHKB.  But instead, I immediately adjusted to it and now can't imagine going back to the "normal" layout.

In a last-ditch attempt to save myself almost $300, I'm going to take apart this Model M that's been sitting in the garage for the past 10 years or so, clean it, buy a PS/2-to-USB adapter (no PS/2 ports on any of my computers), and see if that will satisfy me.

Although I am half Danish.  Apparently, this means that the HHKB might be inevitable.

A Model M will not satisfy you.

The spark of curiosity about HHKB has been lit.

We have you now! :p
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #168 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 03:03:57 »
Although I am half Danish.  Apparently, this means that the HHKB might be inevitable.

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #169 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 03:44:36 »
I hate you all.  Without even trying, you may have talked me into this keyboard.  I've already swapped Control and Caps Lock.  (Including the caps.  I have a Sun Type 7, which you could actually get in a very similar layout, so the caps are the same size.)  I was hoping that it would feel totally alien and awkward and that I could use it to talk myself out of a HHKB.  But instead, I immediately adjusted to it and now can't imagine going back to the "normal" layout.

In a last-ditch attempt to save myself almost $300, I'm going to take apart this Model M that's been sitting in the garage for the past 10 years or so, clean it, buy a PS/2-to-USB adapter (no PS/2 ports on any of my computers), and see if that will satisfy me.

Although I am half Danish.  Apparently, this means that the HHKB might be inevitable.
As rowdy said, the spark has been lit. I had my eye on the HHKB Pro 2 from the day I registered here, but I thought the pricetag was just simply INSANE, and that I would never get one. One and a half month later I'm waiting for it to arrive in my mail >.> You're not getting outta this, my brother, but trust me, thy shall not regret! I've joined the elite ranks of Happy vikings Hacking away at their Professional keyboards, and so shall you!

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #170 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 03:45:10 »
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #171 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 03:59:20 »
I hate you all.  Without even trying, you may have talked me into this keyboard.  I've already swapped Control and Caps Lock.  (Including the caps.  I have a Sun Type 7, which you could actually get in a very similar layout, so the caps are the same size.)  I was hoping that it would feel totally alien and awkward and that I could use it to talk myself out of a HHKB.  But instead, I immediately adjusted to it and now can't imagine going back to the "normal" layout.

In a last-ditch attempt to save myself almost $300, I'm going to take apart this Model M that's been sitting in the garage for the past 10 years or so, clean it, buy a PS/2-to-USB adapter (no PS/2 ports on any of my computers), and see if that will satisfy me.

Although I am half Danish.  Apparently, this means that the HHKB might be inevitable.

A Model M will not satisfy you.


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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #172 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 05:05:02 »
I hate you all.  Without even trying, you may have talked me into this keyboard.  I've already swapped Control and Caps Lock.  (Including the caps.  I have a Sun Type 7, which you could actually get in a very similar layout, so the caps are the same size.)  I was hoping that it would feel totally alien and awkward and that I could use it to talk myself out of a HHKB.  But instead, I immediately adjusted to it and now can't imagine going back to the "normal" layout.

In a last-ditch attempt to save myself almost $300, I'm going to take apart this Model M that's been sitting in the garage for the past 10 years or so, clean it, buy a PS/2-to-USB adapter (no PS/2 ports on any of my computers), and see if that will satisfy me.

Although I am half Danish.  Apparently, this means that the HHKB might be inevitable.

A Model M will not satisfy you.


He needs a F

And could very well end up with both!
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #173 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 07:01:32 »
HHKB Pro 2 has non-dedicated arrow keys, so you'll have to use Fn to access them.

So you have to press the FN key together with the arrow(s), to initiate movement on screen?  The same principle with other keys as well?

And relax here HHKB snobs because I want to know the exact key activation and not trying to be funny in anyway.
« Last Edit: Mon, 23 June 2014, 07:19:28 by Elrick »

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #174 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 07:23:15 »
HHKB Pro 2 has non-dedicated arrow keys, so you'll have to use Fn to access them.
So you have to press the FN key together with the arrow(s), to initiate movement on screen?  The same principle with other keys as well?
Pretty much yeah.

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #175 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 07:29:01 »
HHKB Pro 2 has non-dedicated arrow keys, so you'll have to use Fn to access them.

So you have to press the FN key together with the arrow(s), to initiate movement on screen?  The same principle with other keys as well?

And relax here HHKB snobs because I want to know the exact key activation and not trying to be funny in anyway.

Yes, just press and hold down Fn first, and then press '[` for up-arrow, etc.
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #176 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 07:32:26 »
HHKB Pro 2 has non-dedicated arrow keys, so you'll have to use Fn to access them.

So you have to press the FN key together with the arrow(s), to initiate movement on screen?  The same principle with other keys as well?

And relax here HHKB snobs because I want to know the exact key activation and not trying to be funny in anyway.

Yes, just press and hold down Fn first, and then press '[` for up-arrow, etc.

The arrows are not a big deal in the function layer. I got used to them easier than expected

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #177 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 07:33:32 »
The HHKB is the only 60% Topre out there, and some people prefer 60%, and the Topre is a very good keyboard.

Yes, there are other Topres, and other 60% keyboards, but it is the only keyboard that is both.
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #178 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 07:34:27 »
The HHKB is the only 60% Topre out there, and some people prefer 60%, and the Topre is a very good keyboard.

You're forgetting about the Leopold FC660C.
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #179 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 07:38:28 »
No matter what everyone says, I can't wait for my HHKB!! I sent the customs my invoice etc a few days ago.. any norwegians who's got a guestimate of how long it'll take, assuming it went through the customs without any trouble? (Blackbox and epzy, I'm looking at you)

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #180 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 07:38:56 »
You're forgetting about the Leopold FC660C.

Oh, wow. It's a 66% instead, but that means it has cursor keys without shrinking the right Shift key too much. Yes, I would prefer that to an HHKB.

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #181 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 07:42:46 »
Leopold, especially with dye sub caps is a proper competitor for the regular hhkb pro 2, maybe even a smarter purchase tbh. Or you can get a hhkb type-s and forget about all other 45g topre boards. I can not imagine how can you not want to try type-s once you try the regular one, so go with the end game right away and save yourself some money.
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #182 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 07:44:14 »
No matter what everyone says, I can't wait for my HHKB!! I sent the customs my invoice etc a few days ago.. any norwegians who's got a guestimate of how long it'll take, assuming it went through the customs without any trouble? (Blackbox and epzy, I'm looking at you)

Should only take a few days after they've received the letter. :p
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #183 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 08:01:32 »
No matter what everyone says, I can't wait for my HHKB!! I sent the customs my invoice etc a few days ago.. any norwegians who's got a guestimate of how long it'll take, assuming it went through the customs without any trouble? (Blackbox and epzy, I'm looking at you)

Should only take a few days after they've received the letter. :p

If you're wrong, and it doesn't come in the next few days, Imma hunt you down man. I can't take this.

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #184 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 08:02:38 »
No matter what everyone says, I can't wait for my HHKB!! I sent the customs my invoice etc a few days ago.. any norwegians who's got a guestimate of how long it'll take, assuming it went through the customs without any trouble? (Blackbox and epzy, I'm looking at you)

Should only take a few days after they've received the letter. :p

If you're wrong, and it doesn't come in the next few days, Imma hunt you down man. I can't take this.

Come @ me.
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #185 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:31:14 »
I never thought that the HHKB was superior. I always preferred older Dell and IBM keyboards.
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #186 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 15:05:04 »
I never thought that the HHKB was superior. I always preferred older Dell and IBM keyboards.
Lol i though you were going to say sidewinder x4 or some ****...

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #187 on: Tue, 24 June 2014, 02:53:52 »
No matter what everyone says, I can't wait for my HHKB!! I sent the customs my invoice etc a few days ago.. any norwegians who's got a guestimate of how long it'll take, assuming it went through the customs without any trouble? (Blackbox and epzy, I'm looking at you)

Should only take a few days after they've received the letter. :p

Late reply but yea, it should take only a few days. If it doesn't you have one more man to hunt down.
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #188 on: Thu, 04 September 2014, 17:14:51 »
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #189 on: Sun, 21 September 2014, 10:05:00 »
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #190 on: Sun, 15 April 2018, 04:19:12 »
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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #191 on: Sun, 15 April 2018, 15:43:48 »
Hi guys, I'm new here.
So looking at special HHKB layout - what do you do in programming that you prefer CTRL in Capslock position.
What do you there that it makes that difference?

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #192 on: Sun, 15 April 2018, 15:56:39 »
Hi guys, I'm new here.
So looking at special HHKB layout - what do you do in programming that you prefer CTRL in Capslock position.
What do you there that it makes that difference?
That's where the magic happens.

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #193 on: Sun, 15 April 2018, 20:17:56 »
I never thought that the HHKB was superior. I always preferred older Dell and IBM keyboards.

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #194 on: Sun, 15 April 2018, 20:20:20 »

A Model M will not satisfy you.

The spark of curiosity about HHKB has been lit.

We have you now! :p

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Re: WHY is the HHKB superior?
« Reply #195 on: Mon, 16 April 2018, 18:56:35 »
Hi guys, I'm new here.
So looking at special HHKB layout - what do you do in programming that you prefer CTRL in Capslock position.
What do you there that it makes that difference?
That's where the magic happens.

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WHat exactly being magic there? :)