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Offline Auxo

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #300 on: Tue, 04 October 2016, 04:57:24 »
Recently I heard something about aftermarket.
That VE.A is traded very high prices.
In ROK, overprice trading is a kind of taboo.
So we didn't expect something like this.
Is there somebody who can give the information of that tradings for us?
We wanted to people actually typing with VE.A... not for aftermatket profits...
Maybe this is something we should accept as culture difference. Hmm...
Yeah, happens quite a bit in this hobby. Korean kustoms, artisans, keysets etc.

I'm surprised you haven't heard about this lol, with OTD boards skyrocketing in value and even the VE.A reaching prices of around $750 around now.
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Offline DormantLemon

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #301 on: Tue, 04 October 2016, 05:40:40 »
Most collection hobbies suffer this problem very heavily. Action figure collectors often see 100%+ markup on high demand figures.

I feel awful missing the drop, as there is no way I'm willing to pay this kind of ludicrous surcharge or support those that do it.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #302 on: Tue, 04 October 2016, 10:55:57 »
Recently I heard something about aftermarket.
That VE.A is traded very high prices.
In ROK, overprice trading is a kind of taboo.
So we didn't expect something like this.
Is there somebody who can give the information of that tradings for us?
We wanted to people actually typing with VE.A... not for aftermatket profits...
Maybe this is something we should accept as culture difference. Hmm...

I feel the same way about someone selling their VE.A to make a quick buck.
It feels disrespectful of the time and passion that went into it.

The person who paid $750 for the VE.A on the other hand sounds like someone who will appreciate it, so at least it got a better home.

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #303 on: Tue, 04 October 2016, 11:12:41 »
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #304 on: Tue, 04 October 2016, 11:33:18 »
Selling it makes it available to people who are new to Mechanical Keyboards and missed the drop, but that price point is exceptionally steep. I really love and want one of these, but I can't get it at that price. However it is nice to see that they are available on the resale market at all, even if way out of my price range

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #305 on: Tue, 04 October 2016, 14:29:44 »
Can't wait to put my kit together! Just waiting on replacement plates and I should be good to go  :thumb:

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #306 on: Tue, 04 October 2016, 15:23:52 »
I have tried SP's DSA with space (mixing with DCS) and that worked for me :)

I am getting more comfortable with the upside-down long shift key as my right spacebar.  Last time I checked the shortest spacebar Signature Plastics makes is 4x long spacebar.  Are there enough interests to have SP make a new mold for a 2.75x spacebar? 

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #307 on: Tue, 04 October 2016, 16:00:20 »
I have tried SP's DSA with space (mixing with DCS) and that worked for me :)

I am getting more comfortable with the upside-down long shift key as my right spacebar.  Last time I checked the shortest spacebar Signature Plastics makes is 4x long spacebar.  Are there enough interests to have SP make a new mold for a 2.75x spacebar? 


dunno if you have seen this, but i would encourage everyone to get involved in this -
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82737

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #308 on: Tue, 04 October 2016, 17:29:53 »
dunno if you have seen this, but i would encourage everyone to get involved in this -
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82737

Thanks for the heads up, I posted there. 

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #309 on: Fri, 07 October 2016, 23:02:38 »
where can I find the MX plate file?

I'm actually also looking for the MX plate CAD file, I want to make the switches removable. Can ZeFyr help with this?

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #310 on: Sat, 08 October 2016, 01:52:52 »
where can I find the MX plate file?

I'm actually also looking for the MX plate CAD file, I want to make the switches removable. Can ZeFyr help with this?

Depending on what machinery you have access to, it could be around the same price to hotlite socket your keyboard including leds.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #311 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 15:44:43 »
Been using my VE.A for about two weeks now and keep getting better at it. My first split layout keyboard, glad I got the tenting stands ;)
Had to build them using the Korean instructions ... but still got it right the first time!

Switches are vintage MX Blacks with 45gr. springs, Cherry dyesub keycaps (SAD) with GMK RGB modifiers. Hope you like it!

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #313 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 15:59:48 »
Been using my VE.A for about two weeks now and keep getting better at it. My first split layout keyboard, glad I got the tenting stands ;)
Had to build them using the Korean instructions ... but still got it right the first time!

Switches are vintage MX Blacks with 45gr. springs, Cherry dyesub keycaps (SAD) with GMK RGB modifiers. Hope you like it!
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I really wish I had the money to get in on the MD buy. Your board looks awesome and the tenting stands definitely seem to be beneficial.

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #314 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 16:50:21 »
Seeking a little advice before I finally start my soldering. This will be my first DIY board, and the number of mistakes I have made in other hobbies has taught me not to make assumptions about assembly.

Can anyone confirm that the following photo is the correct assembly for the lock LEDs, with the resistor in place? And for the LED polarity, that the + lead is on the left, from this perspective?

Thanks in advance!




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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #316 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 17:27:09 »
Seeking a little advice before I finally start my soldering. This will be my first DIY board, and the number of mistakes I have made in other hobbies has taught me not to make assumptions about assembly.

Can anyone confirm that the following photo is the correct assembly for the lock LEDs, with the resistor in place? And for the LED polarity, that the + lead is on the left, from this perspective?

Thanks in advance!

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just so you know, LEDs in backwards will not hurt anything as they are in fact diodes which emit light.  So you can just plug in the PCB to test if they are on (though the switches for the Leds caps lock etc. might need to be pushed.)

Thanks for the reply! If it's not obvious by now, my knowledge of electronics is astonishingly low for someone interested in something like custom keyboards. I'll take your advice and just see if it works in their configuration.

Is the resistor in the right spot? I can't see a reason for it to be anywhere else, but my inexperience is making me figure these things out beforehand because I hate hate hate desoldering. :)


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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #318 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 19:17:27 »
Seeking a little advice before I finally start my soldering. This will be my first DIY board, and the number of mistakes I have made in other hobbies has taught me not to make assumptions about assembly.

Can anyone confirm that the following photo is the correct assembly for the lock LEDs, with the resistor in place? And for the LED polarity, that the + lead is on the left, from this perspective?

Thanks in advance!

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just so you know, LEDs in backwards will not hurt anything as they are in fact diodes which emit light.  So you can just plug in the PCB to test if they are on (though the switches for the Leds caps lock etc. might need to be pushed.)

Thanks for the reply! If it's not obvious by now, my knowledge of electronics is astonishingly low for someone interested in something like custom keyboards. I'll take your advice and just see if it works in their configuration.

Is the resistor in the right spot? I can't see a reason for it to be anywhere else, but my inexperience is making me figure these things out beforehand because I hate hate hate desoldering. :)


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unlike the LED, the resistor is not polarized.  it doesn't matter which way you solder it.  Provided that's the right part you're good

I think the resistors are supposed to go on the other side (back) on the pads marked R8, R9 and R10.
The markings on the front imply the pads there are meant for diodes, or more likely, SMD LEDs.

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #319 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 19:23:28 »
Seeking a little advice before I finally start my soldering. This will be my first DIY board, and the number of mistakes I have made in other hobbies has taught me not to make assumptions about assembly.

Can anyone confirm that the following photo is the correct assembly for the lock LEDs, with the resistor in place? And for the LED polarity, that the + lead is on the left, from this perspective?

Thanks in advance!

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just so you know, LEDs in backwards will not hurt anything as they are in fact diodes which emit light.  So you can just plug in the PCB to test if they are on (though the switches for the Leds caps lock etc. might need to be pushed.)

Thanks for the reply! If it's not obvious by now, my knowledge of electronics is astonishingly low for someone interested in something like custom keyboards. I'll take your advice and just see if it works in their configuration.

Is the resistor in the right spot? I can't see a reason for it to be anywhere else, but my inexperience is making me figure these things out beforehand because I hate hate hate desoldering. :)


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unlike the LED, the resistor is not polarized.  it doesn't matter which way you solder it.  Provided that's the right part you're good

I think the resistors are supposed to go on the other side (back) on the pads marked R8, R9 and R10.
The markings on the front imply the pads there are meant for diodes, or more likely, SMD LEDs.

That's correct.  LEDs only on the top of the PCB.  Resistors go on the bottom.

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #320 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 19:26:59 »
Jaceun, if you haven't soldered the switches, the lock leds can be manually switched on and off using BootMapperClient. Look to the right of the bit in the ui where you enabled the rainbow effect to test the pcb. There is setting for Always On.

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #321 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 19:46:07 »
Thanks for the help everyone! Indeed, the resistors do go on the backside. Had them soldered on the front with no results. Removed those and put new ones on the back and all lock indicators worked without a hitch!




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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #322 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 20:04:02 »
Thanks for the help everyone! Indeed, the resistors do go on the backside. Had them soldered on the front with no results. Removed those and put new ones on the back and all lock indicators worked without a hitch!

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Excellent!
If your hands are steady enough for SMD resistors the rest will be easy.
Good skills.
Remember to do the stabilizers before soldering it all together ;)

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #323 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 20:26:05 »
Thanks for the help everyone! Indeed, the resistors do go on the backside. Had them soldered on the front with no results. Removed those and put new ones on the back and all lock indicators worked without a hitch!

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Excellent!
If your hands are steady enough for SMD resistors the rest will be easy.
Good skills.
Remember to do the stabilizers before soldering it all together ;)


Funny you should mention the stabilizers. Just before this I assembled a numberpad from MD which also recently arrived. It had all the resistors etc. presoldered, so it was just switches and LEDs that needed to be soldered. It came with a plate though, so I assumed the stabilizers would be plate mount, in my ignorance. I had already soldered some switches when a little research revealed my folly. I suck at desoldering so I actually managed to install the PCB mounted stabilizers through/under the plate, metal bar and all. It was AWFUL but it's now all working as it should.

I will not be making the same mistake with my VE.A and I am glad I used the numpad as a skill builder. All the troubleshooting has also made me quite familiar with the bootmapper too, so a final build isn't far off now!
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #324 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 21:00:16 »
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #325 on: Mon, 10 October 2016, 04:03:32 »
Sorry if this is a really stupid question, but how do you split the PCB from the guide parts? The instructions on oddforge simply says split, and I am not sure if that means I can just apply force or if I should cut the PCB out from the guide parts...
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #326 on: Mon, 10 October 2016, 04:11:05 »
Sorry if this is a really stupid question, but how do you split the PCB from the guide parts? The instructions on oddforge simply says split, and I am not sure if that means I can just apply force or if I should cut the PCB out from the guide parts...

Break the frame parts off, this shouldn't require much force and hardly ever fails. Use some flat nose plier to grab the frame for a better lever if you must.

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #327 on: Mon, 10 October 2016, 09:49:53 »
Sorry if this is a really stupid question, but how do you split the PCB from the guide parts? The instructions on oddforge simply says split, and I am not sure if that means I can just apply force or if I should cut the PCB out from the guide parts...

Break the frame parts off, this shouldn't require much force and hardly ever fails. Use some flat nose plier to grab the frame for a better lever if you must.

Can confirm, any type of pliers on the outer frame portion of the PCB makes removing it MUCH easier.  Just grab near the perforated joint and twist.  It snaps off cleanly.

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #328 on: Mon, 10 October 2016, 12:47:19 »
Sorry if this is a really stupid question, but how do you split the PCB from the guide parts? The instructions on oddforge simply says split, and I am not sure if that means I can just apply force or if I should cut the PCB out from the guide parts...

Break the frame parts off, this shouldn't require much force and hardly ever fails. Use some flat nose plier to grab the frame for a better lever if you must.

Can confirm, any type of pliers on the outer frame portion of the PCB makes removing it MUCH easier.  Just grab near the perforated joint and twist.  It snaps off cleanly.

Thanks wodan and Data! I will give it a try later today!! :)
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #329 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 00:25:37 »
where can I find the MX plate file?

I'm actually also looking for the MX plate CAD file, I want to make the switches removable. Can ZeFyr help with this?

Depending on what machinery you have access to, it could be around the same price to hotlite socket your keyboard including leds.

Could you kindly explain to me what do you mean by hotlite socket? I am not aware of this terminology.

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #330 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 00:49:02 »
where can I find the MX plate file?

I'm actually also looking for the MX plate CAD file, I want to make the switches removable. Can ZeFyr help with this?

Depending on what machinery you have access to, it could be around the same price to hotlite socket your keyboard including leds.

Could you kindly explain to me what do you mean by hotlite socket? I am not aware of this terminology.
It's pretty much putting holtite sockets on the switch pin holes to make them hot swappable. As seen here https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/558zuj/switch_swappable_jd45/

This should be the part: https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/8134-HC-8P3/A114359-ND/1151726

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #331 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 01:32:40 »
Any chance of R2 happening in the future? Interested in getting one for myself and one for the wife, but don't want to pay $700 USD each ;D

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #332 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 01:46:52 »
Hey, it's my hobby :) please do not forget that.

Some guys already talks about another round.
That is "A LOT OF PRESSURE" on me.
I absolutely have NO plan for another round.
I have NO plan to sell VE.A on my website, yet.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #333 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 01:55:42 »
where can I find the MX plate file?

I'm actually also looking for the MX plate CAD file, I want to make the switches removable. Can ZeFyr help with this?

Depending on what machinery you have access to, it could be around the same price to hotlite socket your keyboard including leds.

Could you kindly explain to me what do you mean by hotlite socket? I am not aware of this terminology.

My build log for my hot swappable Alps 60% board has a lot of useful info, but mainly pertains to anyone who might be interested in doing this for Alps.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77497.0

But yeah, holtite sockets are sockets (one of many) that can be used for making switches and LEDs hot swappable via the PCB itself (no need for SIP socketing switches if you use holtites).

Very easy to install in Cherry boards, but a bit of a hurdle for Alps. Still doable if you have the patience.

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #334 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 02:36:32 »
Announcement from oddforge

Hi Geeks!
We think initial customer care is almost over now :)
As you knows already, there's some request about round 2 or releasing leftovers.

Here's our plan for it.

We produced 20% more products for customer care.
It's been a while you guys received your VE.A already.
We think initial customer care is all set by now.
Our plan was releasing it on domestic (kbdlab) first and releasing 2nd on GH if there's leftovers.

So we ran domestic limited GB on ROK(which is announced before :) with those 20% of leftovers.
Our plan was release leftovers from that on GH as R2.
We expected 10~12 sales but there's more than we expected.
All leftovers are gone.

Now we only have B-stock left.
We produced over double of orders because of bad quality issue that you already knows (and was huge pain in everyone's bottom side :)
We ensured 20% leftovers for customer care.
Wow, that was just two line that we spent for 3 months struggling.
Anyway, there was 6~7 batches and there's always some parts which contains minor issues.
Which contains minor dents of scratches, or slight color difference on each parts.
We didn't sent back parts with issues to factory yet.
That's what I meant by B-stock.

We need to check out your interests about it.
We will release those with discount if there's somebody who wants it. (around 20% from our MSRP)

We do apologize that we didn't prepared enough quantity.
We thought 2 weeks from MD was enough peroid but it clearly was not.
Please leave post here if you have interests of it.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #335 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 02:50:45 »
Definitely interested in a B-stock VE.A, as you know, Zefyr. :)

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #336 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 03:10:20 »
Might be interested in B stock depending on what the issues are and what colors are available.

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #337 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 03:22:23 »
I'm maybe interested, depends heavily on how much shipping would be, as well as how it will be declared for customs. How much money I have left when it is ready is also a factor.

Offline zefyr

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #338 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 03:30:22 »
Might be interested in B stock depending on what the issues are and what colors are available.

Color options are same silver/grey/black limited quantity. we are counting available parts.
some parts are really minor, we almost sure, one out of three person can find defection.
It's like
- scratches can be seen with direct bright sunshine reflex
- small dent on surface
- noticible scratch or unfinished-machine-cutting-trace on bottom plate
- some major scratches on backside which will not be seen when using it

We will upload picture when it's up.

Actually, we don't think this defection is A issue to almost everyone who need this for practical using.
What we really worried about is... turning into a normal one on aftermarket.
We have to protect our friends' feeling who paid whole price for it, and we are thinking about protections.
(This DOES not means I'm for highly overcharged price on aftermatket.)
« Last Edit: Tue, 11 October 2016, 03:32:08 by zefyr »
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #339 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 03:32:47 »
Definitely interested in B-stock,  i'm looking for a great board for work, imperfections aren't problematic. Thank you zefyr
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #340 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 03:36:48 »
Interested in black or grey B-stock, depending on what the cosmetic damage is. How much will shipping be to US?

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #341 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 03:42:15 »
Might be interested in B stock depending on what the issues are and what colors are available.

Color options are same silver/grey/black limited quantity. we are counting available parts.
some parts are really minor, we almost sure, one out of three person can find defection.
It's like
- scratches can be seen with direct bright sunshine reflex
- small dent on surface
- noticible scratch or unfinished-machine-cutting-trace on bottom plate
- some major scratches on backside which will not be seen when using it

We will upload picture when it's up.

Actually, we don't think this defection is A issue to almost everyone who need this for practical using.
What we really worried about is... turning into a normal one on aftermarket.
We have to protect our friends' feeling who paid whole price for it, and we are thinking about protections.
(This DOES not means I'm for highly overcharged price on aftermatket.)

Why not mark them as B stock? A little marking or intentional scratch on the inside of the cases is all you'd need!

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #342 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 03:54:06 »
I planned on refinishing mine a different color. As long as the B-stock damage isn't harsh (deep dent, a mark that refinishing cannot repair), I would be okay with that. I've always wanted a VE.A in another color, one not offered in the GB.

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #343 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 04:01:02 »
Might be interested in B stock depending on what the issues are and what colors are available.

Color options are same silver/grey/black limited quantity. we are counting available parts.
some parts are really minor, we almost sure, one out of three person can find defection.
It's like
- scratches can be seen with direct bright sunshine reflex
- small dent on surface
- noticible scratch or unfinished-machine-cutting-trace on bottom plate
- some major scratches on backside which will not be seen when using it

We will upload picture when it's up.

Actually, we don't think this defection is A issue to almost everyone who need this for practical using.
What we really worried about is... turning into a normal one on aftermarket.
We have to protect our friends' feeling who paid whole price for it, and we are thinking about protections.
(This DOES not means I'm for highly overcharged price on aftermatket.)

Why not mark them as B stock? A little marking or intentional scratch on the inside of the cases is all you'd need!
That might be a plan :)
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Vergo type.T / alpetit / alpetit II / VE.A with Vergo type.T-II

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #344 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 04:06:43 »
...
In ROK, overprice trading is a kind of taboo.
...

I wish that was stigmatized more in the EU/US communities as well. One of the main reasons why I am having problems selling some of my recycling center finds at awesome prices publicly is because some of them show up for 2x-4x the price in some member-to-member section somewhere.

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #345 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 06:40:37 »
One of the main reasons why I am having problems selling some of my recycling center finds at awesome prices publicly is because some of them show up for 2x-4x the price in some member-to-member section somewhere.

Just sell them to me for an awesome price if you are afraid some mechmarket lurker just wants to flip them for a quick buck :thumb: I am never lucky at recycling centers  :'(

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #346 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 09:02:08 »
I would be down with a spare B-stock plate. I got a spare PCB, but the MD shop form didn't allow choosing both a plate and a PCB.

In the alternative, if the CAD files for the plate show up, I'm fine cutting my own.

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #347 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 09:52:55 »
I'd be interested in B stock as well :)

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #348 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 11:43:17 »
...
In ROK, overprice trading is a kind of taboo.
...

I wish that was stigmatized more in the EU/US communities as well. One of the main reasons why I am having problems selling some of my recycling center finds at awesome prices publicly is because some of them show up for 2x-4x the price in some member-to-member section somewhere.

Yep, it's a very opportunistic market. I mean, look how much key cap sets go for, both vintage Cherry and aftermarket sets. It's pretty frustrating to see, but there are a lot of reasons people do sell. Sometimes out of necessity, and I can't blame them, but I do dislike the inflation it causes.

That said, I know boards like OTDs sell for very high prices even on the Korean market, so I'm unsure about that.
« Last Edit: Tue, 11 October 2016, 12:00:37 by E3E »

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #349 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 11:53:39 »
I would be very interested in some spare b stock cases.