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Offline EdibleCrab

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tkg.io keymap for 60%
« on: Sat, 11 March 2017, 15:00:56 »
Introduction
This layout is built specifically for Windows-based programming and Excel use. It must also be serviceable for general text entry, such as writing emails and Word documents. It does use Vim arrows, which may seem like an odd choice for a Windows layout, but it works for me. My keyboard is a GH60 Satan with US key layout, a blank 1976-style PBT keyset, and MX Clear switches. My goal here is to finalize a key mapping that I can then replicate on another identical board, so that I can preserve muscle memory between home and work. All feedback is welcome.

Edit: I've added a fourth layer, which allows keyboard shortcuts to work during navigation and calculation.

Layer keys
  • Holding space will momentarily activate layer 1. This is for up/down selection in combo-boxes, moving rapidly around text with home/end, and so on.
  • Holding tab will momentarily activate layer 2. This is for typing numbers in the general flow of other text. The worst-case scenario for jumping between alpha and numeric is probably chess notation, and I think I could bear to type that in this manner.
  • Tapping caps-lock will toggle layer 1, then layer 2, and keep toggling between them. This functionality is intended to be used when surfing the web while in layer 1, or using the calculator while in layer 2. It's not intended to be used for quick-access to arrow keys or numerals.
  • Esc will return to layer 0 from the other two layers, when they have been permanently toggled on with caps-lock. Esc was chosen as it generally won't have any negative impact on applications, so if I forget which layer I'm on, I can just bash Esc a few times and get home safely to layer 0.
  • Ideally, layers 1 and 2 would stack fully, so that I could be typing a formula in an Excel cell, hold space to arrow-key to the next cell, hold caps-lock to type some numbers, release caps-lock, move to the next cell without ever releasing space, and so on. This would mean I could use the layers without worrying about them clashing. This does not work yet.
  • Layer 4 is enabled by pressing the ctrl key during layers 1 and 2. It is necessary so that keyboard shortcuts work.

Layer 0 is general text entry.



Layer 0 special keys
  • Shift is always on for top-row numeric keys, so symbols are easier to access for programming.
  • Tap shift keys for caps-lock, hold for shift. I often have to do short data-entry tasks where the text is all capitals, so keeping caps-lock accessible is important.
  • Right-shift actually sends left-shift. Sending right-shift was doing horrible things, like crashing the firmware!
  • The Win-key sends Win-R, as 90% of the time I use that combination anyway, usually to start RDP. It would be great if we could send modified keys on tap, while still keeping the modifier on hold, but it seems only unmodified keys can be sent.
  • Bottom-right FN4 key is ctrl-alt-delete. This is needed to log in at the start of the day, and can also be used to quickly lock the screen.
  • The FN3 key to the left of that is dedicated to grabbing screenshots.
  • Esc is tricky, which is tkg.io-speak for "sends '~' on shift-esc".

Layer 1 is the navigation layer. Navigation refers to multiple ideas here. There is navigation within text, within a webbrowser, and within the operating system.

When writing text, both hands will be firmly on the keyboard, but when surfing the web, often the right hand will be on the mouse. This means the functions that the left hand can still access should be the ones that are still useful when mousing, which luckily ties in well with the Vim arrows. I turn off most unused keys, to prevent typos.

Originally I tried to put dedicated keys for manipulating webbrowser tabs here, but it was quite a squeeze. Leaning on left-ctrl and using the standard w/r/t for close/refresh/new tab isn't a hardship.



Layer 1 special keys
  • Backspace becomes delete. Sometimes you just can't substitute a backspace.
  • The top row become the F1-F10 keys. F5 is by far the most important of these to me, so I may put an extra copy of it closer to the home keys.
  • Vim arrows are enabled.
  • A mirroring set of "big" arrows are enabled for the left hand. These move in the same direction but "more", i.e. home/pgup/pgdn/end.
  • 'w' and 'e' move left and right through browser tabs. Good for lazy forum browsing!
  • 'u' and 'i' become back and forward.
  • 'tab' is ctrl-alt-tab, which allows focusing apps with the arrow keys, which are on the same layer.

Layer 2 is the numeric calculation layer. The right hand acts in-place as a numpad, the left hand has access to basic operations. I tried '0' on 'b' and even 'e' key, but it turned out to be too difficult to remember, so I made it a big target (spacebar!), and put the decimal point closer to where it would be on a regular numpad. Again, most unused keys are explicitly turned off.



Layer 2 special keys
  • /*-+ on the home keys, for the ultimate easy access.
  • The numpad is fairly easy to get used to, but I find I miss the '9' due to the staggering. Either I'll get used to it, or I'll just add another '9' key next to it to prevent frustration.

Layer 3 is a simple set of keys commonly combined with ctrl in keyboard shortcuts. Having this layer triggered on ctrl allows these shortcuts to work during navigation and calculation.



Code for Keyboard Layout Editor

1976 Satan Layer 0 - General Alpha and Symbols
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[{c:"#5dceba",sm:"cherry",sb:"cherry",st:"MX1A-C1xx"},"FN7","FN21","FN22","FN23",{c:"#ba1312"},"FN24",{c:"#d83712"},"FN25",{c:"#e1ba44"},"FN26",{c:"#5b3314"},"FN27","FN28","FN29","FN20","_\n-","+\n=",{w:2},"Backspace"],
[{c:"#5dceba",w:1.5},"FN17","Q","W",{c:"#ba1312"},"E",{c:"#d83712"},"R",{c:"#e1ba44"},"T",{c:"#5b3314"},"Y","U","I","O","P","{\n[","}\n]",{w:1.5},"|\n\\"],
[{c:"#5dceba",w:1.75},"FN0","A",{c:"#ba1312"},"S",{c:"#d83712"},"D",{c:"#e1ba44",n:true},"F",{c:"#5b3314"},"G","H",{n:true},"J","K","L",":\n;","\"\n'",{w:2.25},"Enter"],
[{c:"#5dceba",w:2.25},"FN5",{c:"#ba1312"},"Z",{c:"#d83712"},"X",{c:"#e1ba44"},"C",{c:"#5b3314"},"V","B","N","M","<\n,",">\n.","?\n/",{w:2.75},"FN6"],
[{c:"#5dceba",w:1.25},"LCtrl",{c:"#ba1312",w:1.25},"FN1",{c:"#d83712",w:1.25},"LAlt",{c:"#5b3314",w:6.25},"FN2",{w:1.25},"RAlt",{w:1.25},"RCtrl",{w:1.25},"FN3",{w:1.25},"FN4"]

1976 Satan Layer 1 - Navigation
Code: [Select]
[{c:"#5dceba"},"FN8","F1","F2","F3",{c:"#d83712"},"F4",{c:"#e86700"},"F5",{c:"#e1ba44"},"F6",{c:"#5b3314"},"F7","F8","F9","F10","no","no",{w:2},"Del"],
[{c:"#5dceba",w:1.5},"FN12","no","FN10",{c:"#d83712"},"FN11",{c:"#e86700"},"no",{c:"#e1ba44"},"no",{c:"#5b3314"},"no","FN14","FN15","no","no","no","no",{w:1.5},"no"],
[{c:"#5dceba",w:1.75},"FN9","home",{c:"#d83712"},"pgup",{c:"#e86700"},"pgdn",{c:"#e1ba44",n:true},"end",{c:"#5b3314"},"no","left",{n:true},"down","up","right","no","no",{w:2.25},"Enter"],
[{c:"#5dceba",w:2.25},"FN5",{c:"#d83712"},"no",{c:"#e86700"},"no",{c:"#e1ba44"},"no",{c:"#5b3314"},"no","no","no","no","no","no","no",{w:2.75},"FN6"],
[{c:"#5dceba",w:1.25},"FN19",{c:"#d83712",w:1.25},"FN1",{c:"#e86700",w:1.25},"LAlt",{c:"#5b3314",w:6.25},"FN2",{w:1.25},"RAlt",{w:1.25},"FN19",{w:1.25},"FN3",{w:1.25},"FN4"]

1976 Satan Layer 2 - Numeric
Code: [Select]
[{c:"#5dceba"},"FN8","no","no","no",{c:"#d83712"},"no",{c:"#e86700"},"no",{c:"#e1ba44"},"no",{c:"#5b3314"},"no","no","no","no","no","no",{w:2},"Backspace"],
[{c:"#5dceba",w:1.5},"FN17","no","no",{c:"#d83712"},"no",{c:"#e86700"},"no",{c:"#e1ba44"},"no",{c:"#5b3314"},"7\nhome","8\nup","9\npgup","no","no","no","no",{w:1.5},"no"],
[{c:"#5dceba",w:1.75},"FN13","/",{c:"#d83712"},"*",{c:"#e86700"},"-",{c:"#e1ba44",n:true},"+",{c:"#5b3314"},"no","4\nleft",{n:true},"5","6\nright","no","no","no",{w:2.25},"Enter"],
[{c:"#5dceba",w:2.25},"FN5",{c:"#d83712"},"no",{c:"#e86700"},"no",{c:"#e1ba44"},"no",{c:"#5b3314"},"no","no","1\nend","2\ndown","3\npgdn",".\ndel","no",{w:2.75},"FN6"],
[{c:"#5dceba",w:1.25},"FN19",{c:"#d83712",w:1.25},"FN1",{c:"#e86700",w:1.25},"LAlt",{c:"#5b3314",w:6.25},"0\nins",{w:1.25},"RAlt",{w:1.25},"FN19",{w:1.25},"FN3",{w:1.25},"FN4"]

1976 Satan Layer 3 - Alpha Shortcuts
Code: [Select]
[{c:"#5dceba",sm:"cherry",sb:"cherry",st:"MX1A-C1xx"},"Esc",{a:7},"","","",{c:"#ba1312"},"",{c:"#d83712"},"",{c:"#e1ba44"},"",{c:"#5b3314"},"","","","","","",{w:2},""],
[{c:"#5dceba",a:4,w:1.5},"Tab","Q","W",{c:"#ba1312"},"E",{c:"#d83712"},"R",{c:"#e1ba44"},"T",{c:"#5b3314"},"Y","U","I","O","P","{\n[","}\n]",{w:1.5},"|\n\\"],
[{c:"#5dceba",a:7,w:1.75},"",{a:4},"A",{c:"#ba1312"},"S",{c:"#d83712"},"D",{c:"#e1ba44",n:true},"F",{c:"#5b3314"},"G","H",{n:true},"J","K","L",":\n;","\"\n'",{w:2.25},"Enter"],
[{c:"#5dceba",a:7,w:2.25},"",{c:"#ba1312",a:4},"Z",{c:"#d83712"},"X",{c:"#e1ba44"},"C",{c:"#5b3314"},"V","B","N","M","<\n,",">\n.","?\n/",{a:7,w:2.75},""],
[{c:"#5dceba",a:4,w:1.25},"FN19",{c:"#ba1312",a:7,w:1.25},"",{c:"#d83712",w:1.25},"",{c:"#5b3314",a:4,w:6.25},"Space",{a:7,w:1.25},"",{a:4,w:1.25},"FN19",{a:7,w:1.25},"",{w:1.25},""]

Code for tkg.io

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"0":["ACTION_LAYER_ON",1,"ON_PRESS"],"1":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_GUI"],"KC_R"],"2":["ACTION_LAYER_TAP_KEY",1,"KC_SPACE"],"3":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_CTL","MOD_ALT"],"KC_PSCREEN"],"4":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_CTL","MOD_ALT"],"KC_L"],"5":["ACTION_MODS_TAP_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_SFT"],"KC_CAPSLOCK"],"6":["ACTION_MODS_TAP_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_SFT"],"KC_CAPSLOCK"],"7":["ACTION_FUNCTION",0,0],"8":["ACTION_LAYER_CLEAR","ON_PRESS"],"9":["ACTION_LAYER_ON","2","ON_PRESS"],"10":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_CTL","MOD_SFT"],"KC_TAB"],"11":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_CTL"],"KC_TAB"],"12":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_CTL","MOD_ALT"],"KC_TAB"],"13":["ACTION_LAYER_OFF","2","ON_PRESS"],"14":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_ALT"],"KC_LEFT"],"15":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_ALT"],"KC_RIGHT"],"17":["ACTION_LAYER_TAP_KEY","2","KC_TAB"],"19":["ACTION_LAYER_MODS","3",["MOD_CTL"]],"20":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_SFT"],"KC_0"],"21":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_SFT"],"KC_1"],"22":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_SFT"],"KC_2"],"23":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_SFT"],"KC_3"],"24":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_SFT"],"KC_4"],"25":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_SFT"],"KC_5"],"26":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_SFT"],"KC_6"],"27":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_SFT"],"KC_7"],"28":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_SFT"],"KC_8"],"29":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_SFT"],"KC_9"]
« Last Edit: Mon, 13 March 2017, 16:47:28 by EdibleCrab »

Offline yangdigi

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Re: tmk.io keymap for 60%
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 11 March 2017, 21:10:43 »
Maybe in your subject title tmk.io is tkg.io.
Am I right?

Offline EdibleCrab

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Re: tmk.io keymap for 60%
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 12 March 2017, 05:23:08 »
Maybe in your subject title tmk.io is tkg.io.
Am I right?

Yep, fixed it, thanks :)

Offline EdibleCrab

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Re: tkg.io keymap for 60%
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 13 March 2017, 17:00:20 »
Here's a new keycap set I've come up with to complement the mappings. It has a sort of bright 80's techno-vibe to it. It could have been the corporate colours for a company that made computers.



It's easy to identify F5, as well as the round and square brackets. The 1976 scheme makes it easy to find F5, but not so much the brackets, as the right side of the board is entirely brown.

And another asymmetric version, toned down with grey this time.

« Last Edit: Mon, 13 March 2017, 17:46:34 by EdibleCrab »

Offline mnmlisme

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Re: tkg.io keymap for 60%
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 12 August 2017, 17:10:06 »
was having trouble mapping multiple layers layout but this post helps me figure out how it works. thanks!
XD60 (gat.black) | SABER68 (gat.blue) | VORTEX Core (cherry blue) | YD40 (gatistotle)

Offline EdibleCrab

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Re: tkg.io keymap for 60%
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 18 August 2017, 06:53:31 »
Glad to hear it helped. What do your layers look like?

Now that I'm halfway through building a duplicate Satan to use at home, I'm adding a new layer specifically for gaming. For the gaming layer, I'll re-enable the numeric keys, tab and caps-lock, and disable the Windows key and caps-lock-on-shift function. It will be pretty much a standard keyboard layout, just minus the Win-key, and still with functions on the function keys along the bottom-right.

I've also bought a cheap wireless numpad to help further with data entry, which I can put out of the way when it's not needed, and clear up precious mouse-pad space. The numeric layer is still good for typing numbers in the middle of other text.
« Last Edit: Fri, 18 August 2017, 06:55:07 by EdibleCrab »

Offline EdibleCrab

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Re: tkg.io keymap for 60%
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 16 June 2018, 17:41:58 »
After using this layout for a while, I've decided to simplify it. I think the idea of having numbers on the home row (I experimented with 1 on "a", through to 0 on ";", instead of the numpad-style layout, and found it was better overall, as the stagger was a problem) is better suited to a 40% with a split spacebar, which is not something I'm going to be moving to any time soon. The split space would also allow selection with naviation, e.g. you could select text in exactly the same way you navigate - just progressively hold down one half of the space to enable navigation, then use the other half to trigger shift for selection.

I ended up buying a cheap Bluetooth numpad for the times I really need it, and I just push it out of the way when I don't. I find the battery life is good enough. The whole point of smaller keyboards, at least to me, is to free up space for the mouse, as I find it very uncomfortable to have the mouse a long way to the right, so having the completely detached numpad gives me what I want.

Anyway, this is no longer the old layout from the first post... this is SIMPLE SATAN!


Simple Satan Layer 0 - General Alpha and Symbols

Very close to a completely standard layout. An unsuspecting user could sit down at this keyboard, and not be surprised by it's behaviour. Space is still the primary function key. FN1 through 4 are print-screen, run command, open explorer, and lock screen, respectively.



Code: [Select]
[{c:"#963838",t:"#ffffff",sm:"cherry",sb:"cherry",st:"MX1A-C1xx"},"Esc",{c:"#ffffff",t:"#000000"},"!\n1","@\n2","#\n3","$\n4","%\n5","^\n6","&\n7","*\n8","(\n9",")\n0","_\n-","+\n=",{c:"#1d1cb8",t:"#ffffff",w:2},"Backspace"],
[{w:1.5},"Tab",{c:"#ffffff",t:"#000000"},"Q","W","E","R","T","Y","U","I","O","P","{\n[","}\n]",{c:"#1d1cb8",t:"#ffffff",w:1.5},"|\n\\"],
[{w:1.75},"Caps Lock",{c:"#ffffff",t:"#000000"},"A","S","D",{n:true},"F","G","H",{n:true},"J","K","L",":\n;","\"\n'",{c:"#963838",t:"#ffffff",w:2.25},"Enter"],
[{c:"#1d1cb8",w:2.25},"Shift",{c:"#ffffff",t:"#000000"},"Z","X","C","V","B","N","M","<\n,",">\n.","?\n/",{c:"#1d1cb8",t:"#ffffff",w:2.75},"Shift"],
[{w:1.25},"LCtrl",{w:1.25},"Win",{w:1.25},"LAlt",{c:"#ffffff",t:"#000000",w:6.25},"FN30",{c:"#1d1cb8",t:"#ffffff",w:1.25},"FN1",{w:1.25},"FN2",{w:1.25},"FN3",{w:1.25},"FN4"]

Simple Satan Layer 1 - Navigation

The navigation keys were my favourite bit in the old layout, and I used them all the time, so I've kept them. I don't need the tricky esc functionality, I've used layers to achieve the same effect, which has the bonus of making backtick available again. FN11 to FN14 send ctrl-alt-shift a through d, which are handy for grabbing with AutohotKey while not interfering with other shortcuts. Caps enables layer 2...



Code: [Select]
[{c:"#963838",t:"#ffffff",sm:"cherry",sb:"cherry",st:"MX1A-C1xx"},"~\n`",{c:"#ffffff",t:"#000000"},"F1","F2","F3","F4","F5","F6","F7","F8","F9","F10","F11","F12",{c:"#1d1cb8",t:"#ffffff",w:2},"Del"],
[{a:7,w:1.5},"",{c:"#ffffff",t:"#000000",a:4},"no","FN15","FN16","no","no","no","no","FN17","FN18","no","no","no",{c:"#1d1cb8",t:"#ffffff",a:7,w:1.5},""],
[{a:4,w:1.75},"FN10",{c:"#ffffff",t:"#000000"},"home","pgup","pgdn",{n:true},"end","no","no",{n:true},"left","down","up","right","no",{c:"#963838",t:"#ffffff",a:7,w:2.25},""],
[{c:"#1d1cb8",w:2.25},"",{c:"#ffffff",t:"#000000",a:4},"no","no","no","no","no","no","no","no","no","no",{c:"#1d1cb8",t:"#ffffff",a:7,w:2.75},""],
[{w:1.25},"",{w:1.25},"",{w:1.25},"",{w:6.25},"",{a:4,w:1.25},"FN11",{w:1.25},"FN12",{w:1.25},"FN13",{w:1.25},"FN14"]

Simple Satan Layer 2 - Games

Layer 2 is dedicated to gaming. I hate using caps lock in games, as it triggers an on-screen caps status display in a Rainmeter theme I use. Using F11 (not FN11!) avoids that. I've also put F12 (also not FN12) over the top of the Windows key, so it doesn't get pressed accidentally and try to take me back to the desktop. There's room for three more AutoHotkey macro buttons, as well as the button to exit the layer.



Code: [Select]
[{c:"#963838",t:"#ffffff",sm:"cherry",sb:"cherry",st:"MX1A-C1xx"},"Esc",{c:"#ffffff",t:"#000000"},"!\n1","@\n2","#\n3","$\n4","%\n5","^\n6","&\n7","*\n8","(\n9",")\n0","_\n-","+\n=",{c:"#1d1cb8",t:"#ffffff",w:2},"Backspace"],
[{w:1.5},"Tab",{c:"#ffffff",t:"#000000"},"Q","W","E","R","T","Y","U","I","O","P","{\n[","}\n]",{c:"#1d1cb8",t:"#ffffff",w:1.5},"|\n\\"],
[{w:1.75},"F11",{c:"#ffffff",t:"#000000"},"A","S","D",{n:true},"F","G","H",{n:true},"J","K","L",":\n;","\"\n'",{c:"#963838",t:"#ffffff",w:2.25},"Enter"],
[{c:"#1d1cb8",w:2.25},"Shift",{c:"#ffffff",t:"#000000"},"Z","X","C","V","B","N","M","<\n,",">\n.","?\n/",{c:"#1d1cb8",t:"#ffffff",w:2.75},"Shift"],
[{w:1.25},"LCtrl",{w:1.25},"F12",{w:1.25},"LAlt",{w:6.25},"Spacebar",{w:1.25},"FN21",{w:1.25},"FN22",{w:1.25},"FN23",{w:1.25},"FN24"]

tgk.io :
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"1":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_CTL","MOD_SFT"],"KC_PSCREEN"],"2":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_GUI"],"KC_R"],"3":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_GUI"],"KC_E"],"4":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_GUI"],"KC_L"],"10":["ACTION_LAYER_ON","2","ON_RELEASE"],"11":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_CTL","MOD_SFT","MOD_ALT"],"KC_A"],"12":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_CTL","MOD_SFT","MOD_ALT"],"KC_B"],"13":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_CTL","MOD_SFT","MOD_ALT"],"KC_C"],"14":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_CTL","MOD_SFT","MOD_ALT"],"KC_D"],"15":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_CTL","MOD_SFT"],"KC_TAB"],"16":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_CTL"],"KC_TAB"],"17":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_CTL"],"KC_LEFT"],"18":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_CTL"],"KC_RIGHT"],"21":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_CTL","MOD_SFT","MOD_ALT"],"KC_X"],"22":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_CTL","MOD_SFT","MOD_ALT"],"KC_Y"],"23":["ACTION_MODS_KEY","LR_LEFT",["MOD_CTL","MOD_SFT","MOD_ALT"],"KC_Z"],"24":["ACTION_LAYER_CLEAR","ON_RELEASE"],"30":["ACTION_LAYER_TAP_KEY","1","KC_SPACE"]
« Last Edit: Sat, 16 June 2018, 18:23:21 by EdibleCrab »