[IC] Canoe by Percent Studios

[beamingrobot]

I'm interested in the all-black model.

but you have one already 

[superdoedoe]

Just wanna know if we'd be getting options for different colours? I know Percent has spoken with an EU and Aussie Party, with both being offered only one colour. Was wondering if we'd be able to pick and choose.

[yuppie]

I'm interested in the all-black model.

but you have one already 

Says the guy with the signature... 456GT | TGR Jane | TGR 910 | Duck Blackbird | LZ CLS | Novatouch | Fjell | X60 | M10A

[beamingrobot]

Just wanna know if we'd be getting options for different colours? I know Percent has spoken with an EU and Aussie Party, with both being offered only one colour. Was wondering if we'd be able to pick and choose.

He said there will be options

[oatmicro]

I'm interested in the all-black model.

but you have one already 

Says the guy with the signature... 456GT | TGR Jane | TGR 910 | Duck Blackbird | LZ CLS | Novatouch | Fjell | X60 | M10A

at least he had only one of each 

[patersunny]

Just wanna know if we'd be getting options for different colours? I know Percent has spoken with an EU and Aussie Party, with both being offered only one colour. Was wondering if we'd be able to pick and choose.

He said there will be options

Excited, any idea when this all might kick off? I'm chomping at the bit to get one.

[beamingrobot]

Just wanna know if we'd be getting options for different colours? I know Percent has spoken with an EU and Aussie Party, with both being offered only one colour. Was wondering if we'd be able to pick and choose.

He said there will be options

Excited, any idea when this all might kick off? I'm chomping at the bit to get one.

They just had mid autumn festival so he's really slow with his replies. I've been spamming for an answer :/

[PotatoTM]

Have you decided how your going to run this? (FCFS, raffle, etc.) Also, am I the only one that finds it strange they have a 60 on the weight instead of a 65? That's not going to stop me from trying to get one though

[Puddsy]

Have you decided how your going to run this? (FCFS, raffle, etc.) Also, am I the only one that finds it strange they have a 60 on the weight instead of a 65? That's not going to stop me from trying to get one though

Board was run FCFS in China, I suspect that's how it'll be done here as well.

[txclack]

I hope there are some interesting colors

[Darknight00z]

I hope its not FCFS, kinda ****ty way to do it, when there is so much interest and just 49 cases. Raffle would give everybody a fair chance.

[amnesia0287]

Have you decided how your going to run this? (FCFS, raffle, etc.) Also, am I the only one that finds it strange they have a 60 on the weight instead of a 65? That's not going to stop me from trying to get one though

Board was run FCFS in China, I suspect that's how it'll be done here as well.

Why? What does the way the GB runner did something in China matter?

[Puddsy]

Have you decided how your going to run this? (FCFS, raffle, etc.) Also, am I the only one that finds it strange they have a 60 on the weight instead of a 65? That's not going to stop me from trying to get one though

Board was run FCFS in China, I suspect that's how it'll be done here as well.

Why? What does the way the GB runner did something in China matter?

Because the same team is running it here.

[amnesia0287]

Have you decided how your going to run this? (FCFS, raffle, etc.) Also, am I the only one that finds it strange they have a 60 on the weight instead of a 65? That's not going to stop me from trying to get one though

Board was run FCFS in China, I suspect that's how it'll be done here as well.

Why? What does the way the GB runner did something in China matter?

Because the same team is running it here.

BeamingRobot ran the China GB? Also the IC form asks people what they want lol. I don’t think that would happen if it was just whatever happened last time.


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[beamingrobot]

So just to clarify, I'm not part of the Percent Team, I'm not from China as well 

That aside, Percent ran their buys on TB so that's pretty much FCFS. I'm gonna hold a raffle instead since we have quite a bit of interest (130 plus email addresses and counting)

Tentatively speaking it'll be open for 24 hours to ensure everyone who wants to try their luck get a chance, as much as I wanted to hold a rain dance competition only 6 people wanted that, so raffle it is.

[Puddsy]

figured percent would want it run their way, guess not

enjoy your raffle then i guess

[FactoryDefaults]

Aww sad its gonna be raffle style.. Havent had luck on any of those so far. Would love to get a canoe to match my skog!

[vtachkov]

Same, was hoping for FCFS since that's the only way I've been able to get anything. Guess I'll just have to cross my fingers.

[BAS1C]

Damn. Keep coming back to look at these. Def want grey with some cyan 🙉

[redbanshee]

subbed, this looks badass 

[txclack]

Awww fingers crossed on a raffle then I guess.  I like FCFS if everyone is aware of what time it'll begin prior.  Raffle allows for multiple entry abuse.

[avid]

Awww fingers crossed on a raffle then I guess.  I like FCFS if everyone is aware of what time it'll begin prior.  Raffle allows for multiple entry abuse.

Yep, agree on this. FCFC with posting the time in advance is prefered method.

[amnesia0287]

Awww fingers crossed on a raffle then I guess.  I like FCFS if everyone is aware of what time it'll begin prior.  Raffle allows for multiple entry abuse.

Yep, agree on this. FCFC with posting the time in advance is prefered method.

No... its not... I get it, there are ways to game the system with FCFS to greatly increase your odds. That doesn't make you any more entitled to the GB than anyone else. If there are 150 people interested and only 50 slots, the only FAIR way raffle.

The real issue with FCFS is that there are lots of factors and complications there. People work different schedules and live in different time zones. people have **** come up.

Now if you wanna argue it shouldn't be fair, we can have that conversation, but in my opinion, if there are 150 people who are interested in the GB then there are 150 people who should have a chance. Not just the 100 who happen to be available at a certain time and date and happen to have access to a low latency network connection and have text auto complete setup etc.

I get it, that means your odds are lower, and that sucks, but you are no more important than anyone else who wants a shot.

[txclack]

Awww fingers crossed on a raffle then I guess.  I like FCFS if everyone is aware of what time it'll begin prior.  Raffle allows for multiple entry abuse.

Yep, agree on this. FCFC with posting the time in advance is prefered method.

No... its not... I get it, there are ways to game the system with FCFS to greatly increase your odds. That doesn't make you any more entitled to the GB than anyone else. If there are 150 people interested and only 50 slots, the only FAIR way raffle.

The real issue with FCFS is that there are lots of factors and complications there. People work different schedules and live in different time zones. people have **** come up.

Now if you wanna argue it shouldn't be fair, we can have that conversation, but in my opinion, if there are 150 people who are interested in the GB then there are 150 people who should have a chance. Not just the 100 who happen to be available at a certain time and date and happen to have access to a low latency network connection and have text auto complete setup etc.

I get it, that means your odds are lower, and that sucks, but you are no more important than anyone else who wants a shot.

There are downsides to both.  Neither are perfect. 

Raffle only does not mean equal chances - in a perfect world yes, but we don't live in that world.  There are people who enter more than once, doubling their chances.  Or there are people who can convince their family and friends to enter the form for them in an effort to find a loop-hole to the "1 entry rule".  It turns into a how many friends do you have that are willing to help you game the system.  Even worse, with raffle-only you have people who only enter because they want to take advantage of the situation and flip the item on the aftermarket, which takes items out of the hands of people who truly want it. 

So neither are perfect. 

Either way, It's a pointless argument because beamingrobot wants a raffle, so a raffle it will be.

[Baconheart]

Awww fingers crossed on a raffle then I guess.  I like FCFS if everyone is aware of what time it'll begin prior.  Raffle allows for multiple entry abuse.

Yep, agree on this. FCFC with posting the time in advance is prefered method.

No... its not... I get it, there are ways to game the system with FCFS to greatly increase your odds. That doesn't make you any more entitled to the GB than anyone else. If there are 150 people interested and only 50 slots, the only FAIR way raffle.

The real issue with FCFS is that there are lots of factors and complications there. People work different schedules and live in different time zones. people have **** come up.

Now if you wanna argue it shouldn't be fair, we can have that conversation, but in my opinion, if there are 150 people who are interested in the GB then there are 150 people who should have a chance. Not just the 100 who happen to be available at a certain time and date and happen to have access to a low latency network connection and have text auto complete setup etc.

I get it, that means your odds are lower, and that sucks, but you are no more important than anyone else who wants a shot.

There are downsides to both.  Neither are perfect. 

Raffle only does not mean equal chances - in a perfect world yes, but we don't live in that world.  There are people who enter more than once, doubling their chances.  Or there are people who can convince their family and friends to enter the form for them in an effort to find a loop-hole to the "1 entry rule".  It turns into a how many friends do you have that are willing to help you game the system.  Even worse, with raffle-only you have people who only enter because they want to take advantage of the situation and flip the item on the aftermarket, which takes items out of the hands of people who truly want it. 

So neither are perfect. 

Either way, It's a pointless argument because beamingrobot wants a raffle, so a raffle it will be.

You have good points, but flippers are still a problem with either method. Look at Fugus, they're all sold FCFS and there's tons of people who set up bots waiting for sales, then buy them no matter what just to resell for an instant profit.

[Puddsy]

flippers are an unavoidable part of this hobby, ESPECIALLY in the keyboard kit sector

[amnesia0287]

flippers are unavoidable

fix't

Let's not forget the iphone scalping industry or the nintendo scalping industry etc etc etc. Or the actual ticket scalping industry. Anywhere there is real profit potential you will find someone who wants to buy it to sell it for profit.

[xondat]

Minimum post count would get rid of most flippers, but it'd also upset a lot of people as they aren't active here.

[Puddsy]

Minimum post count would get rid of most flippers, but it'd also upset a lot of people as they aren't active here.

you'd be surprised

[mudcakehoney]

I’d be upset with minimum post count, I’m quite active on reddit but have only just signed up here. The Canoe is what made me signup to GH in the first place if I was penalised because I hadn’t replied to a bunch of threads in here It would be unfair

[xondat]

Minimum post count would get rid of most flippers, but it'd also upset a lot of people as they aren't active here.

you'd be surprised

Guess it depends how low/high it is.

I’d be upset with minimum post count, I’m quite active on reddit but have only just signed up here. The Canoe is what made me signup to GH in the first place if I was penalised because I hadn’t replied to a bunch of threads in here It would be unfair

Yeah that's exactly why it'd upset.

I wish more would interact here, and not just have an account for raffles (such as PS).

[mudcakehoney]

^^ but that really doesn’t make sense, I’m still fairly new to custom building and GB’s having discovered mechanical keyboards through reddit. A post showing a built Canoe there floored me and since then I have been searching for how to buy one.. which led me here. Since then I have signed up and tried to be as active as I can. Do I not deserve the same chance to get a Canoe as you or someone on here just because you’ve been here longer? I may not have 6 builds and 20 Keysets but I promise you my passion for this is strong


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[xondat]

You deserve the same chance yeah; I never said we should have it for this buy. Your passion is probably much stonger than mine )

[foxlive]

We all have to start one day. I joined geekhack recently with my new passion for keebs. I had the chance to buy a slot into the EXENT group buy from someone (and I am so excited about it). Now I would really love the canoe as a second keyboard, and I hope there will be no "minimum post" to have the chance to get one 

[avid]

Is there any info if this GB will offer ISO-compatible plate/pcb?

[superdoedoe]

Is there any info if this GB will offer ISO-compatible plate/pcb?

Very much doubt it.

[Puddsy]

Is there any info if this GB will offer ISO-compatible plate/pcb?

Very much doubt it.

percent (and most other chinese designers) don't see a point in adding ISO, since nobody really uses it, and sometimes the parts don't make moq in chinese buys

but it might have it

[avid]

Is there any info if this GB will offer ISO-compatible plate/pcb?

Very much doubt it.

percent (and most other chinese designers) don't see a point in adding ISO, since nobody really uses it, and sometimes the parts don't make moq in chinese buys

but it might have it

Well figured they dont bother at taobao since ~all chinese user is on ANSI.
GH is different though.

Their SKOG keyboard had ISO-compatability so i can only hope.

[Puddsy]

Is there any info if this GB will offer ISO-compatible plate/pcb?

Very much doubt it.

percent (and most other chinese designers) don't see a point in adding ISO, since nobody really uses it, and sometimes the parts don't make moq in chinese buys

but it might have it

Well figured they dont bother at taobao since ~all chinese user is on ANSI.
GH is different though.

Their SKOG keyboard had ISO-compatability so i can only hope.

TKL =/= 65

[ShadeDream]

Interested depending on the colors available. Any idea what firmware the PCB uses?

[timerickson]

Minimum post count would get rid of most flippers, but it'd also upset a lot of people as they aren't active here.

This would legit break my heart, and I would regret lurking here for so many years. The Canoe is my dream 65% after trying 10+ other keyboards, and certainly have no intention of flipping. Have some consideration for interested quiet members

[Maxusy]

Interested depending on the colors available. Any idea what firmware the PCB uses?

uses bootmapperclient, so fully programmable & able to tune the rgb leds

[beamingrobot]

Update?

We're waiting on pictures of the colour choices from Percent. Sorry for the lack of progress but we're moving along slowly for now

Once we have it I'll have it up and explain more about it. We might go with FCFS based on the Kira buy as quite a few invoices and emails were ignored, causing more headaches than it should. I'll deliberate about it over the weekend.

[BAS1C]

Update?

We're waiting on pictures of the colour choices from Percent. Sorry for the lack of progress but we're moving along slowly for now

Once we have it I'll have it up and explain more about it. We might go with FCFS based on the Kira buy as quite a few invoices and emails were ignored, causing more headaches than it should. I'll deliberate about it over the weekend.

Sounds good! =D

[Murrellz]

How about a compromise? A raffle with a set date and time that ends in 10 minutes. That way, gives enough people who are waiting to fill out the form and have a chance of actually getting one of these without having to be a super fast typer or have autofill whatever to get one. Will stop people who just pass by and are like "ooh a raffle today, i'll just sign up and decide if I actually want it later".

[beamingrobot]

How about a compromise? A raffle with a set date and time that ends in 10 minutes. That way, gives enough people who are waiting to fill out the form and have a chance of actually getting one of these without having to be a super fast typer or have autofill whatever to get one. Will stop people who just pass by and are like "ooh a raffle today, i'll just sign up and decide if I actually want it later".

If it's FCFS it'll be on monokei.us , as it's easier to work on the orders using the shop rather than manually changing up invoices and stuff, but i'll think about a PS style raffle as well.

[OmegaSupreme]

Update?

We're waiting on pictures of the colour choices from Percent. Sorry for the lack of progress but we're moving along slowly for now

Once we have it I'll have it up and explain more about it. We might go with FCFS based on the Kira buy as quite a few invoices and emails were ignored, causing more headaches than it should. I'll deliberate about it over the weekend.

I really hope its a raffle though.  Atleast it gives everyone a fair chance

[PotatoTM]

I think flipping will be a problem no matter how the sale happens, it’s probably better to just go with whatever is easiest for the vendor, if that’s FCFS then so be it, if it’s a raffle then that’s fine too.

[txclack]

Minimum post count would get rid of most flippers, but it'd also upset a lot of people as they aren't active here.

you'd be surprised

Guess it depends how low/high it is.

I’d be upset with minimum post count, I’m quite active on reddit but have only just signed up here. The Canoe is what made me signup to GH in the first place if I was penalised because I hadn’t replied to a bunch of threads in here It would be unfair

Yeah that's exactly why it'd upset.

I wish more would interact here, and not just have an account for raffles (such as PS).

Even though I have a low post count - I agree with your idea.  If anything it'll encourage people to interact more on GH knowing that post count holds some weight.  Also, it is a sure fire way to eliminate the 0 post multiple accounts people may or maynot have

[amnesia0287]

Minimum post count would get rid of most flippers, but it'd also upset a lot of people as they aren't active here.

you'd be surprised

Guess it depends how low/high it is.

I’d be upset with minimum post count, I’m quite active on reddit but have only just signed up here. The Canoe is what made me signup to GH in the first place if I was penalised because I hadn’t replied to a bunch of threads in here It would be unfair

Yeah that's exactly why it'd upset.

I wish more would interact here, and not just have an account for raffles (such as PS).

Even though I have a low post count - I agree with your idea.  If anything it'll encourage people to interact more on GH knowing that post count holds some weight.  Also, it is a sure fire way to eliminate the 0 post multiple accounts people may or maynot have

I wouldn’t be surprised if there are weirdos with multiple high post accounts lol.

TBH, fcfs and raffles have both been going pretty good for me lately. I have more confidence I could win fcfs, but I still think raffle is more fair.

As to the Kira, I for one was super glad people dropped out, cause I got to wake up to a reraffle but I get sending extra invoices is a pain.