[IC] GMK Carbon R2

[Atredl]

Ok it seems like you can use any notation for periodic table as long you provide some format description for it. But indeed there is only one unified standard notation which is used for current Carbon Element novelty.

However the standard notation does not work well with cherry profile alignments. In this case i want to suggest slightly different notation format. Since that novelty is truly for people who has some knowledge in chemistry, i think it will be easy for them to recognize the notation format.

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I知 a fan of the decimal mass. I also usually round it to 12 but I like the accuracy of including more numbers. As long as it値l look clean on a keycap, my vote is for the longer number.

[hineybush]

If you don't use 12.0107 u ｱ 0.0008 u then i'm not buying it

[dvorcol]

If you don't use 12.0107 u ｱ 0.0008 u then i'm not buying it

Maybe there could be a special right SHIFT keycap just for you.

[T0mb3ry]

If you don't use 12.0107 u ｱ 0.0008 u then i'm not buying it

Maybe there could be a special right SHIFT keycap just for you.

hineybush was pretty much clear he wants a 12.0107u key 

[hineybush]

If you don't use 12.0107 u ｱ 0.0008 u then i'm not buying it

Maybe there could be a special right SHIFT keycap just for you.

hineybush was pretty much clear he wants a 12.0107u key 

[dvorcol]

If you don't use 12.0107 u ｱ 0.0008 u then i'm not buying it

Maybe there could be a special right SHIFT keycap just for you.

hineybush was pretty much clear he wants a 12.0107u key 

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Sorry, I missed the U.  But looking at it anyway, ENTER is a great size if you wanted that legend.

[T0mb3ry]

In case for Carbon periodic table notation i want to keep atomic mass as decimal notation for a while. Some renders will show later if its bussy or not. If yes i will simplify it.

Sorry, I missed the U.  But looking at it anyway, ENTER is a great size if you wanted that legend.

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I like this actually but i got already graphene enter for novelty. I would like to keep the periodic notation on the C key. Imo it gives one elegant and handsome touch ;)

[dvorcol]

Then, since the CAPS LOCK is often used for other purposes, how about a 1.75U periodic table C keycap?

[dvorcol]

If you don't use 12.0107 u ｱ 0.0008 u then i'm not buying it

Maybe there could be a special right SHIFT keycap just for you.

hineybush was pretty much clear he wants a 12.0107u key 

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hineybush, were you really requesting a huge spacebar at first?  From Wikipedia: "The unified atomic mass unit or dalton (symbol: u, or Da) is a standard unit of mass that quantifies mass on an atomic or molecular scale (atomic mass). One unified atomic mass unit is approximately the mass of one nucleon (either a single proton or neutron) and is numerically equivalent to 1 g/mol."

[Atredl]

Then, since the CAPS LOCK is often used for other purposes, how about a 1.75U periodic table C keycap?

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I would like to keep the periodic notation on the C key. Imo it gives one elegant and handsome touch ;)

[dvorcol]

Then, since the CAPS LOCK is often used for other purposes, how about a 1.75U periodic table C keycap?

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I would like to keep the periodic notation on the C key. Imo it gives one elegant and handsome touch ;)

Just voicing ideas, since that is one of the purposes of an [IC].  I love the 1U C and am using it on my SA Carbon keyboard.  But since there are graphene keycaps for many different sizes/rows, I was thinking there could be a novelty C in addition to the base alpha C.

[OracleKev]

Then, since the CAPS LOCK is often used for other purposes, how about a 1.75U periodic table C keycap?

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Kinda like this.  A lot of space to play with~

[Water lee]

more pic

[hineybush]

If you don't use 12.0107 u ｱ 0.0008 u then i'm not buying it

Maybe there could be a special right SHIFT keycap just for you.

hineybush was pretty much clear he wants a 12.0107u key 

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hineybush, were you really requesting a huge spacebar at first?  From Wikipedia: "The unified atomic mass unit or dalton (symbol: u, or Da) is a standard unit of mass that quantifies mass on an atomic or molecular scale (atomic mass). One unified atomic mass unit is approximately the mass of one nucleon (either a single proton or neutron) and is numerically equivalent to 1 g/mol."

it was all a joke, the u was copied directly from wikipedia or something lol. i didn't mean i wanted a 12ish-unit spacebar

[T0mb3ry]

Update

I could get a view on approximate pricing for GMK Carbon base set.
If we consider the very generous coverage of the base set and the vintage row factor, which will require new molds (exactly atleast two molds for each shot), the price is justified in my opinion. Ofcourse i will not be able to share it with you and the pricing is also not set in stone yet.
Anyway i decided to keep vintage rows.

Otherwise i got some updates for some kits.
Beezare and Boneyard alphas
- Added accent F Row keys for classic color schema.


Novelties
- Redesigned Carbon periodic table key in order to match Cherry style.

[Marutks]

when is this GB going to start?

[T0mb3ry]

when is this GB going to start?

Most probably November or December.

[online]

Is the grey mod use the same grey as GMK Oblivion?

[T0mb3ry]

Is the grey mod use the same grey as GMK Oblivion?

Carbon and Oblivion do share same base color for mods. So if you got GMK Oblivion you can purchase Boneyard alphas and mix it with Oblivion mods in order to achieve monotone set but with mods legends in oblivion colors

[online]

Is the grey mod use the same grey as GMK Oblivion?

Carbon and Oblivion do share same base color for mods. So if you got GMK Oblivion you can purchase Boneyard alphas and mix it with Oblivion mods in order to achieve monotone set but with mods legends in oblivion colors

awesome. count me in!

[T0mb3ry]

awesome. count me in!

Tho keep in mind this combo will not work on layouts with numpads like 100% or 1800. The reason for this is that all the alpha extensions (beezare and boneyard alphas) are designed to be combined with Carbon or Bone base sets and because of this they are using row 5 bottom row on numpad alphas.

[dvorcol]

Because of R5, is the profile of the numpad ENTER different from the numpad "+"?  I ask because these two vertical keys have the same profile in SA.  But are they different in GMK even if the bottom row is R4?

[T0mb3ry]

Because of R5, is the profile of the numpad ENTER different from the numpad "+"?  I ask because these two vertical keys have the same profile in SA.  But are they different in GMK even if the bottom row is R4?

Exactly. The numpad enter and "+" keys (both 2u vertical) are different compared to SA profile. And there is more to it.
- In SA profile those keys has the same shape.
- In Cherry profile they are different. Also there is a difference between numpad enters on cherry profile, depending on the bottom row. There is an vintage (row 4 to row 5) numpad enter and there is an 'modern' (row 4 to row 4) numpad enter. That explains why kits like Round 1 Upgrade kit or Xtra 4.0 kit include their specific numpad enter keys.

[dvorcol]

Because of R5, is the profile of the numpad ENTER different from the numpad "+"?  I ask because these two vertical keys have the same profile in SA.  But are they different in GMK even if the bottom row is R4?

Exactly. The numpad enter and "+" keys (both 2u vertical) are different compared to SA profile. And there is more to it.
- In SA profile those keys has the same shape.
- In Cherry profile they are different. Also there is a difference between numpad enters on cherry profile, depending on the bottom row. There is an vintage (row 4 to row 5) numpad enter and there is an 'modern' (row 4 to row 4) numpad enter. That explains why kits like Round 1 Upgrade kit or Xtra 4.0 kit include their specific numpad enter keys.

Thanks for the detailed explanation.  In most layout renders, these 2U vertical keycaps have two different row labels so I am never sure what profile they actually have.  Same with the vertical keycaps in ErgoDox kits.

Oh, one more question: In SA profile, are these vertical 2U keycaps R3?

[T0mb3ry]

Oh, one more question: In SA profile, are these vertical 2U keycaps R3?

Yes, in SA Profile the vertical numpad keys are 2U Row 3 keys.

[thelaughingman]

Update

I could get a view on approximate pricing for GMK Carbon base set.
If we consider the very generous coverage of the base set and the vintage row factor, which will require new molds (exactly atleast two molds for each shot), the price is justified in my opinion. Ofcourse i will not be able to share it with you and the pricing is also not set in stone yet.
Anyway i decided to keep vintage rows.

Otherwise i got some updates for some kits.
Beezare and Boneyard alphas
- Added accent F Row keys for classic color schema.

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Novelties
- Redesigned Carbon periodic table key in order to match Cherry style.

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thank you sweet lord!  :thumb:

[silversung]

Perfect timing to put some money together, and the vintage row stays! It's like my dream GB.
Question is, which set do I go for? Preferably all of them, I think...

[polarsolar]

I used to be a chemist, so this set is a must-buy.    You could say the decision is elementary.  Or maybe that the keyset is guaranteed to get a reaction.  (No?)

Love the new carbon periodic table novelty.  Is there going to be a R2 version in the DC kit?

[coffeeshopcoder]

Is the grey mod use the same grey as GMK Oblivion?

Carbon and Oblivion do share same base color for mods. So if you got GMK Oblivion you can purchase Boneyard alphas and mix it with Oblivion mods in order to achieve monotone set but with mods legends in oblivion colors

This is awesome!!! Now I need to get those boneyard alphas as well

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[Cas]

Have you decided if there will be os keys, win and Mac?

[oldcat]

Is the grey mod use the same grey as GMK Oblivion?

Carbon and Oblivion do share same base color for mods. So if you got GMK Oblivion you can purchase Boneyard alphas and mix it with Oblivion mods in order to achieve monotone set but with mods legends in oblivion colors

This is awesome!!! Now I need to get those boneyard alphas as well

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all kits, all kits

[T0mb3ry]

Have you decided if there will be os keys, win and Mac?

Carbon has already too many kits for an GMK keyset, so i discarded that idea.

Love the new carbon periodic table novelty.  Is there going to be a R2 version in the DC kit?

In SP SA Carbon R2 i offered those keys for DC Kit too. I do not promise but i'll look into it.

[T0mb3ry]

Update

DC kit
 - Added Carbon periodic table novelty.

[coffeeshopcoder]

Have you decided if there will be os keys, win and Mac?

Carbon has already too many kits for an GMK keyset, so i discarded that idea.

Would you consider adding a Mac command opt keys to the bone icon extension ? Or perhaps even going full micons (assuming mito gives his thumbs up) for the bone icon extension ?



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[T0mb3ry]

Update

Bone base kit
 - Added orange accent keys.


Ivory mods
 - Removed exotic keys like windowed keys etc. in order to bring it on pair with modifiers offered in other kits. If i do not offer a kit for exotic keys (like windowed keys) for base sets then there is no sense to offer it in ivory mods since it makes it only more expensive.

Would you consider adding a Mac command opt keys to the bone icon extension ? Or perhaps even going full micons (assuming mito gives his thumbs up) for the bone icon extension ?

If i would treat MAC OS in special way then i need to treat other OS in the same way. Say i need then to add other OS specific keys for XY Operating Systems. The kits are already enormous and i dont want to add any niche keys.

Regarding Micons, i do have already to many kits for a GMK set and i dont have any plans right now for more kits.

[Poesjuh]

Update

Bone base kit
 - Added orange accent keys.

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Ivory mods
 - Removed exotic keys like windowed keys etc. in order to bring it on pair with modifiers offered in other kits. If i do not offer a kit for exotic keys (like windowed keys) for base sets then there is no sense to offer it in ivory mods since it makes it only more expensive.

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Would you consider adding a Mac command opt keys to the bone icon extension ? Or perhaps even going full micons (assuming mito gives his thumbs up) for the bone icon extension ?

If i would treat MAC OS in special way then i need to treat other OS in the same way. Say i need then to add other OS specific keys for XY Operating Systems. The kits are already enormous and i dont want to add any niche keys.

Regarding Micons, i do have already to many kits for a GMK set and i dont have any plans right now for more kits.

WOOOOEEEEEEHHH Orange accents! Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
ps; orange arrows no?

[T0mb3ry]

ps; orange arrows no?

Ooooooh maybe? I'll look into it, becuase Carbon base has accent arrows too.

[Poesjuh]

ps; orange arrows no?

Ooooooh maybe? I'll look into it, becuase Carbon base has accent arrows too.

I know I know. I値l forgive you if you don稚 add it I知 already really excited because of the R0-5, the accent keys make it even better now!


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[T0mb3ry]

Update

Bone base kit
 - Added orange accent arrows.

I know I know. I値l forgive you if you don稚 add it I知 already really excited because of the R0-5, the accent keys make it even better now!

[Poesjuh]

Update

Bone base kit
 - Added orange accent arrows.

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I know I know. I値l forgive you if you don稚 add it ;) I知 already really excited because of the R0-5, the accent keys make it even better now!

;)

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[T0mb3ry]

Btw i think the gray accent function keys (f1-f4 and f9-f12) in Bone base kit are absolete. They are available in Boneyard alphas. Carbon base kit has different accent function keys available but it cant be really compared with the Bone base kit, because both are using different color schemas. Anyway i'll leave those accent keys in bone base kit for time being and i will decide later if they should stay there. Right now Bone base kit has one key more than Carbon base kit.

[thelaughingman]

I don't like orange accent keys in Bone base, so now it's down to just Boneyard + Ivory for me

[fouras]

This might have been deliberate, but you're missing a scooped 5 cap for the numpad in all applicable kits and barred Fs and Js in the Beezarre and Boneyard kits.

[T0mb3ry]

This might have been deliberate, but you're missing a scooped 5 cap for the numpad in all applicable kits and barred Fs and Js in the Beezarre and Boneyard kits.

Good catch. I will add these missing keys in the next update.

[polarsolar]

DC kit
 - Added Carbon periodic table novelty.

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Great, thanks!   :thumb:

[T0mb3ry]

Update

Carbon base kit
 - Added scooped homing numpad key.


Bone base kit
 - Added scooped homing numpad key.
 - Removed for classic color scheme obsolete accent function keys. They have been moved to Boneyard alphas in previous update.


Beezarre alphas
 - Added bared homing keys for alphas and scooped homing key for numpad.


Boneyard alphas
 - Added bared homing keys for alphas and scooped homing key for numpad.


Rolling bones
 - Added scooped homing key for numpad.

[petamva]

Carbon has many allotropes such as diamond, graphene etc. I 'd like to see some of those in the novelties kit. If you asked me i would add a R0 or R1 kit (like warning signs) with the first ten elements (H, He, Li, Be, B, C etc) but t0mbr3y knows best.

[petamva]

Oops just noticed graphene is already in the novelties kit. Nice!

[fouras]

For the space kit, could you add another three 1u caps so ortho users not buying the ergoplanck kit don't need two copies?

And, I think a R5 Fn cap is missing from the ivory mods kit. There's one in both base kits but not it.

Boneyard alphas
 - Added bared homing keys for alphas and scooped homing key for numpad.

Unfortunately, there's two scooped Fs and Js now.

[T0mb3ry]

For the space kit, could you add another three 1u caps so ortho users not buying the ergoplanck kit don't need two copies?

Thats possible. Will add in the next update.

And, I think a R5 Fn cap is missing from the ivory mods kit. There's one in both base kits but not it.

Dang thats right. That key is missing too.

Unfortunately, there's two scooped Fs and Js now.

Can you mark which keys are doubled? Right now i see only F and J keys scooped showed together with alphas and barred F and J (note the bar) keys showed on the bottom.