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Offline daviddgm

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LM60/LM65 Group Buy

UPDATE Nov/29 - Just a few LM65 available, If Will have demand we Will make the 4th round of them.

GB Name

LM60 - LM from initials letters of Liz Maria (My daughter's name. She is five years old and already help me with keycaps in buildings and like mechanical kerboards)

Inspiration

I started this hobby late, with mechanical keyboards in July/2020 and custom keyboards in May/2021. After mount my first custom keyboard, a KPrepublic PSD60, I desired to buy more two popular boards, Bakeneko60 and later Keychron Q1, but for both the final price would be double due the shipping fee and Customs fee. So I started to think on my own project. I tried to quote on the local market a glass case and after a marble powder case with Italian company that I already have business, but neither of them prospered. In Mar/2022 I designed this project of case to be made by CNC process and I contacted more than ten companies, the most of them quoted the price near to the same that I desire to sell. When I was thinking to giving up, I got excellent quotation price for the sample and for the bulk order. I have made the first sample in Apr/2022 and more a few samples, after little adjustments, in Jul/2022. Now I invite you to this group buy that have excellent cost benefit.


Start and End Date

Aug-10-2022 to Sep-07-2022


Estimated Fulfillment Date

1-2 months,  after GB ends. Q4 2022.


Details

  • Case Angle: 6.5 degrees
  • Mounting: Poron gasket mount
  • Case Material: 6063 aluminum
  • Making process: CNC - sandblast - anodizing
  • Front Height: 19mm
  • Back Height: 21mm (with chamfer) and 31mm (before chamfer)
  • Weight: ~1300g and ~1840g (mounted with brass plate)
  • Plate:  Aluminum, Brass or PC
  • Gaskets: D65 poron gaskets (65x4x3mm)
  • PCB Compability: GH60 style (GH60, DZ60, BM60, etc)

What is included

  • Top and bottom aluminum parts
  • Plate (aluminum, brass or polycarbonate)
  • D65 Poron Gaskets
  • M3 x 8mm screws
  • Solder or Hotswap PCB (Optional)


Photos









Video - First sample with typing sound test

Typing test from customers.

GB Order Form and link

https://forms.gle/XJrSrG6avmgcapKK6


Price

USD 105 more shipping fee.

Best Regards,

Eng. David Martinz (and Liz Maria) - LM Keyboards

« Last Edit: Thu, 29 June 2023, 06:20:50 by daviddgm »

Offline DirtyGingy

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 11 August 2022, 10:25:20 »
glad to see the GB runs into next month so I don't have to miss it

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 13 August 2022, 12:46:43 »
Great price. You have a lot of possibilities like adding brass weights and experiment with the design (not a fan of huge bezels), I'm interested in your future projects.
« Last Edit: Sat, 13 August 2022, 12:57:18 by Lovekb »

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Offline BlivionIaG

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 14 August 2022, 13:38:10 »
Hi,

Could you please explain the shipping options ?
It's quite confusing, why paypal + ali is 125, but Paypal + dhl account has no pricing.
Also on the aliexpress store there is no option to do wkl except on grey 2.

Offline daviddgm

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 14 August 2022, 17:15:27 »
Hi!

The options Fedex/UPS/DHL do not include shipping fee, you need to have the shipping accounts (fee paid on delivery), but If you want DHL to pay on the order we can quote it to you.

Grey WKL is the "Grey 2". This Aliexpress Store is our partner/forwarder, he made this mistake when listed the item. If you choose Fedex/UPS/DHL the case Will be sent from the factory.

Hi,

Could you please explain the shipping options ?
It's quite confusing, why paypal + ali is 125, but Paypal + dhl account has no pricing.
Also on the aliexpress store there is no option to do wkl except on grey 2.

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 14 August 2022, 18:53:11 »
I am not joining the gb (I'm more advanced in the hobby, and the keyboard lack some standard design features for me) but seeing this kind of gb, at this price range, with those updates, is awesome, even more coming from a fellow brazilian.

Good luck on the GB. :D

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 15 August 2022, 02:00:14 »
Very interesting at the price point.


Could you please release the plate file so that we can get it manufactured in POM and FR4 for ourselves?


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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 15 August 2022, 22:56:44 »
Hi!

I would like to join GB!

I would like to pay in Aliexpress, but there is no PCB option in the product page.
Can you please tell the store to add PCB options for the product?

Thanks!

Offline daviddgm

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 16 August 2022, 02:15:39 »
Dear, we can provide the plate file to you. Our case is compatible with sangeo60 plate.

Very interesting at the price point.


Could you please release the plate file so that we can get it manufactured in POM and FR4 for ourselves?

Offline daviddgm

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 16 August 2022, 02:18:00 »
If you want the pcb, you can fill the order form to pay just pcb by PayPal, because the Aliexpress is operated by our fowarder.

Hi!

I would like to join GB!

I would like to pay in Aliexpress, but there is no PCB option in the product page.
Can you please tell the store to add PCB options for the product?

Thanks!
« Last Edit: Tue, 16 August 2022, 02:32:00 by daviddgm »

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 16 August 2022, 03:18:53 »
Nice GB !

- Is the plate compatible with Tsangan ?

- Aliexpress says the listing is not available to me (Germany), can you provide a picture of the pink color ?

Offline daviddgm

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 16 August 2022, 03:53:25 »
Yes, compatible with Tsangan.

You can see the pink in this video (my daughter that choosed this color  :D )


About shipment to Germany I don't why Aliexpress not available, but we can ship by DHL or Fedex.

Nice GB !

- Is the plate compatible with Tsangan ?

- Aliexpress says the listing is not available to me (Germany), can you provide a picture of the pink color ?
« Last Edit: Tue, 16 August 2022, 12:21:07 by daviddgm »

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 16 August 2022, 18:35:45 »
Hi.

Please bear with me, if I'm asking this question again and again (I asked two times by email, but have not gotten a reply about this)
- Is the Aliexpress store selling the products in stock now?

The email I got after submitting the GB form sounds to me like the store is selling the products in stock.

I'm asking again and again because I really want to have the keyboard, but the GB is very confusing to me.

Thanks.

Offline daviddgm

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 16 August 2022, 19:24:52 »
Hi!

The Aliexpress store is just our forwarder, so the options WKL Black/Blue and Brass plate Will be available on the link in two days.
 

Hi.

Please bear with me, if I'm asking this question again and again (I asked two times by email, but have not gotten a reply about this)
- Is the Aliexpress store selling the products in stock now?

The email I got after submitting the GB form sounds to me like the store is selling the products in stock.

I'm asking again and again because I really want to have the keyboard, but the GB is very confusing to me.

Thanks.

Offline X666

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 17 August 2022, 19:11:10 »
Very nice design! :thumb: Is there a MOQ we have to hit during GB or do you have another plan?

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 18 August 2022, 10:24:19 »
This first run no MOQ... For the future with new colors/features the MOQ Will be 50pcs.

Very nice design! :thumb: Is there a MOQ we have to hit during GB or do you have another plan?

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 18 August 2022, 21:42:18 »
Will you be releasing the plate files for buyers who want a plate made from other materials?

Offline daviddgm

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 19 August 2022, 08:24:31 »
Dear, we can provide the plate file to you. Our case is compatible with sangeo60 plate.

Will you be releasing the plate files for buyers who want a plate made from other materials?

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 23 August 2022, 17:15:17 »
Hi, the board looks interesting! A few questions:

1. does the plate support tsangan bottom row and 3u-1u-3u spacebar?
2. Will you produce an HHKB version in the future?

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 24 August 2022, 07:29:57 »
Hi!

The plate support tsangan. I think it Will support only these splits 2.25u-1.25u-2.25u and 2.75u-1.25u-2.25u, but if you choose PC plate (easy to cut), you can fix to support 3u-1u-3u.

Thanks.

Hi, the board looks interesting! A few questions:

1. does the plate support tsangan bottom row and 3u-1u-3u spacebar?
2. Will you produce an HHKB version in the future?

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 27 August 2022, 08:58:48 »
Today I received my LM60. Early yes, but lucky no. There's quite a few issues.


Firstly, here is a photo album: https://imgur.com/a/nqHa8Yn


The positive:
  • It's a cheap 60% gasket, at under $200 delivered
  • It actually delivered
  • It's 'based' (ie rip off) the Sangeo60


The negative:
  • Anodisation is streaky (see photos)
  • Anodisation is very different between top and bottom (see photos)
  • Anodisation has chips/marks (see photos, this is on the left WKL blocker and very noticeable when assembled)
  • My unit shipped without screws ! sure I can buy some screws that match the spec, but the thread mentions these are included, and I expected them to be
  • The board ships with D65 poron gaskets which fit the 3 middle gasket positions, but the outer 2 (4 overall) gasket positions are half the length, so you need to cut the poron in half yourself.


This seems to be a case of 'you get what you pay for'. I'll build the board when I can track down (or receive) some compatible screws, and report back on acoustics then. Overall it seems like a fine board, and I didn't expect miracles for the price, but I did expect that the listed inclusions would be delivered.

Offline daviddgm

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 27 August 2022, 10:02:19 »
Sorry about the screws, the forwarder forgot. Please contact by Aliexpress link that we can send the screws to you.

Today I received my LM60. Early yes, but lucky no. There's quite a few issues.


Firstly, here is a photo album: https://imgur.com/a/nqHa8Yn


The positive:
  • It's a cheap 60% gasket, at under $200 delivered
  • It actually delivered
  • It's 'based' (ie rip off) the Sangeo60


The negative:
  • Anodisation is streaky (see photos)
  • Anodisation is very different between top and bottom (see photos)
  • Anodisation has chips/marks (see photos, this is on the left WKL blocker and very noticeable when assembled)
  • My unit shipped without screws ! sure I can buy some screws that match the spec, but the thread mentions these are included, and I expected them to be
  • The board ships with D65 poron gaskets which fit the 3 middle gasket positions, but the outer 2 (4 overall) gasket positions are half the length, so you need to cut the poron in half yourself.


This seems to be a case of 'you get what you pay for'. I'll build the board when I can track down (or receive) some compatible screws, and report back on acoustics then. Overall it seems like a fine board, and I didn't expect miracles for the price, but I did expect that the listed inclusions would be delivered.
« Last Edit: Sat, 27 August 2022, 11:26:02 by daviddgm »

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #22 on: Sat, 27 August 2022, 10:04:07 »
Another delivery.


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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #23 on: Sat, 27 August 2022, 18:36:14 »
Sorry about the screws, the forwarder forgot. Please contact by Aliexpress link that we can send the screws to you.

Thanks, will contact via AliExpress and see if I can get it resolved.

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 30 August 2022, 03:08:22 »
Burgundy or red color please

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 30 August 2022, 03:23:30 »
Red (Ral 3003) Will be available on the second run (10-15 days It Will be done).

Burgundy or red color please

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 30 August 2022, 06:46:46 »
Hi!

My daughter's (Liz Maria) build.

PS: We have put wrong the caps lock keycap.  ;)




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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #27 on: Sat, 03 September 2022, 09:21:53 »
My first WKL build.


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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 14 September 2022, 06:55:29 »
Hi! Are available to order and shipment:

Black LM60 WKL
Black LM60 HHKB
Grey LM60 WK
Grey LM60 WKL
Grey LM60 HHKB

Blue, Red and Pink Will be available with 5 days.

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 15 September 2022, 15:36:17 »
Hi! Are available to order and shipment:

Black LM60 WKL
Black LM60 HHKB
Grey LM60 WK
Grey LM60 WKL
Grey LM60 HHKB

Blue, Red and Pink Will be available with 5 days.


Where is the HHKB top? I can't see it in order form or aliexpress.

Thank you!
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« Reply #30 on: Fri, 16 September 2022, 13:01:05 »
Hi! Are available to order and shipment:

Black LM60 WKL
Black LM60 HHKB
Grey LM60 WK
Grey LM60 WKL
Grey LM60 HHKB

Blue, Red and Pink Will be available with 5 days.
I saw the red one is ready, as posted on your instagram. May I ask when it is available to order?

Also I assume HHKB is a typo? Though I would love to buy an HHKB top!

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 16 September 2022, 18:44:46 »
This week I recieved my Pink WKL case and overall I'm satisfied with it. I've never had an anodized case before so I don't have anything to compare with.

I guess some of the issues that user Nuap wrote about are present on my board, minor streaking (difficult to notice), different colour between top and bottom (don't really notice in person unless your looking for it though, at certain angles), there don't appear to be any chips in the ano. Mine did come with all the screws, etc.

I am very happy with the board. My photos don't show it correctly, but the pink is very vibrant, such a beautiful colour!

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« Last Edit: Fri, 16 September 2022, 18:47:47 by tsukuru »

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #32 on: Sat, 17 September 2022, 11:34:15 »
Hi! About HHKB the Aliexpress store (our forwarder) received them and he Will list it in 1-2 days.

Thank you for your feedback.

This week I recieved my Pink WKL case and overall I'm satisfied with it. I've never had an anodized case before so I don't have anything to compare with.

I guess some of the issues that user Nuap wrote about are present on my board, minor streaking (difficult to notice), different colour between top and bottom (don't really notice in person unless your looking for it though, at certain angles), there don't appear to be any chips in the ano. Mine did come with all the screws, etc.

I am very happy with the board. My photos don't show it correctly, but the pink is very vibrant, such a beautiful colour!
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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 21 September 2022, 07:57:25 »
Will red HHKB be available?
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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #34 on: Thu, 22 September 2022, 10:43:18 »
I would also appreciate a red hhkb if it's possible

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« Reply #35 on: Thu, 22 September 2022, 11:15:00 »
Wow, these look great and the price is amazing. I am not really needing a new board right now but if I were, that grey hhkb looks amazing!

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #36 on: Thu, 22 September 2022, 14:32:55 »
Will red HHKB be available?

I would also appreciate a red hhkb if it's possible

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Next month. We are including on the bulk order. Thanks.

Wow, these look great and the price is amazing. I am not really needing a new board right now but if I were, that grey hhkb looks amazing!

Thank you.

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #37 on: Mon, 10 October 2022, 08:42:13 »
Hi! We have added another typing test from customer and to inform that we are making a few 65% on the 3rd bulk order, it Will be finished with 10 days.

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #38 on: Thu, 20 October 2022, 12:26:20 »
Here is my review and thoughts on this keyboard. The case has some design mistakes, but I just give advice and try to make the product better. The typing feel and sound is great. Good luck with future products.


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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 20 October 2022, 13:55:12 »
where is it manufactured

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« Reply #41 on: Tue, 25 October 2022, 23:36:36 »
where is it manufactured

China.

thanks for being upfront about it, but for me thats quite a dealbreaker
« Last Edit: Tue, 25 October 2022, 23:42:51 by granola bar enthusiast »

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 26 October 2022, 00:00:36 »
Sound tests sound good. Will there be extras?

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #43 on: Wed, 26 October 2022, 17:35:20 »
Sound tests sound good. Will there be extras?


This is not a group buy, it's just posted here as a way of advertising.


These boards were in stock and continue to be in stock. You can buy them on AliExpress here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004623420321.html






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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #44 on: Wed, 26 October 2022, 18:59:48 »
Sound tests sound good. Will there be extras?

Our first intention was to make a real GB, but we had a problem that some of interested who fill GB do not reply anymore and others do not want to pay directly. So we have decided to make with own money. First round were 32 sets, second round 40 sets and this week we are fininshing third round of 40 sets. And we accorded cooperation with friend's Aliexpress Store, because that platform have reasonable average shipping price.
« Last Edit: Fri, 28 October 2022, 17:43:30 by daviddgm »

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 01 November 2022, 18:47:56 »
do you think it would be possible to make the plate files open sourced, i have a lm60 and love it but i don't really like polycarbonate, brass, or aluminum for the sound and feel i'm trying to get but those were the only choices. would be nice if i could just download the plate file and get something like a pom plate myself

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #46 on: Tue, 01 November 2022, 19:57:37 »
do you think it would be possible to make the plate files open sourced, i have a lm60 and love it but i don't really like polycarbonate, brass, or aluminum for the sound and feel i'm trying to get but those were the only choices. would be nice if i could just download the plate file and get something like a pom plate myself


The board uses the Sangeo60 plate. You can download it from the Monstargear website here: https://www.monstargears.com/51/?idx=421

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Re: [GB] LM60 - A 60% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 06 November 2022, 01:27:09 »
The board uses the Sangeo60 plate. You can download it from the Monstargear website here: https://www.monstargears.com/51/?idx=421

Thank you so much

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Re: [GB] LM60/LM65- A 60/65% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #48 on: Tue, 29 November 2022, 07:35:42 »
Just a few LM65 available, If Will have demand we Will make the 4th round of them.

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Re: [GB] LM60/LM65- A 60/65% CNC aluminum gasket mount case/keyboard
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 29 November 2022, 16:36:57 »
Just a few LM65 available, If Will have demand we Will make the 4th round of them.

Updated the tag to [In-Stock] per recent rule change allowing in-stock sales. Please change to [Complete] and remove the [In-Stock] tag when the extras sell out. :thumb: