[IC] GMK Bushidō

[unluckyxiii]

Love the helmets in the novelty kit. How bout different tanto designs for the mod since the words seem aggressive.


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[myyrddraal]

One of the only big keyboard designers who I think deserves respect. You can always count on your keyboard being covered if it’s being designed by biip. And if it doesn’t make MOQ at least he took the extra effort (is making a picture/render of a kit really that hard? I mean most of these guys have scripts for it. So like as hard as pressing enter) whereas most big designers, you ask where is ortho support, or say why are you missing this key from specialties, you just get a “deal with it” type response. If you get one at all.

Glad you found a set that embodies your essence enough for you to back. Maybe we'll even see you post it, and if we're really lucky see how an alpha like you really lives.

Meanwhile I'll just be here typing on a pink polycarbonate board with GMK Olivia.

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Being ironic a sarcastic helps just your low urges and even that only for a short time. It for sure does not help him (in case you think he needs a lesson) to understand anything.


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[fm]

Great use of colors, I think some people are not going to be happy with the mixed colors in the base kit. I personally don't mind.

[Zurg Eon]

In the Samurai kit there are two R1's. Is the second R1 actually R2? I do hope so, and it looks like it is R2 in the Alice render.

[Niahi]

Love it, the two toned alphas are super interesting - hope to see this go ahead.



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[biip]

In the Samurai kit there are two R1's. Is the second R1 actually R2? I do hope so, and it looks like it is R2 in the Alice render.

Indeed the second row is supposed to be R2
My bad…

[NathanielGoodtimes]

Any update on this, are we getting close to making this a reality?

[biip]

Any update on this, are we getting close to making this a reality?

Well, I have vendors which are definitely in!
I need to update the novelties kit and add the ロ character first

[KillinItTakyon]

I love the theme to this! I was thinking about making a similar color scheme to match Babymetal's colors (and call it GMK Fox God) but this is basically it! Excited to join this GB.

[psxndc]

I love the theme to this! I was thinking about making a similar color scheme to match Babymetal's colors (and call it GMK Fox God) but this is basically it! Excited to join this GB.

Bruh, you need to check out GMK Kitsune. Personally I prefer the look of this one, but still. I literally begged them to make a Babymetal novelty key for it. Will that ever reach the GB stage? OTFGK.

[NathanielGoodtimes]

........dreaming of these!
Yes im a bit obsessed!

[otanishock]

White accent enter and red accent esc in base?

[asspennies]

It looks great, and the name outrage is very much a load of manufactured nonsense.

I have a far bigger issue with the two tone alphas being the base kit. They really should be an optional kit. With prices on custom keycaps already sky high, the idea of nickel-and-diming the consumer to buy an extra kit just to have matching colors turns me sour.

[NathanielGoodtimes]

I have a far bigger issue with the two tone alphas being the base kit. They really should be an optional kit. With prices on custom keycaps already sky high, the idea of nickel-and-diming the consumer to buy an extra kit just to have matching colors turns me sour.

I see it from the other angle. the two tones create a unique and different look then the majority of the other sets being put out. To me its one of the pillars of this set.

[psxndc]

I see it from the other angle. the two tones create a unique and different look then the majority of the other sets being put out. To me its one of the pillars of this set.

QFT.

[mimalik]

I have a far bigger issue with the two tone alphas being the base kit. They really should be an optional kit. With prices on custom keycaps already sky high, the idea of nickel-and-diming the consumer to buy an extra kit just to have matching colors turns me sour.

I see it from the other angle. the two tones create a unique and different look then the majority of the other sets being put out. To me its one of the pillars of this set.

Which is fine, but then base should be in single color tone, and anyone interested in differentiation can go for alt color, and tbh the entire set in red looks killer....no pun intended.

[menuhin]

Why not making the default as full bushido? (all red legends)

And an add-on kit to have the white legend variation for some of the keys? esp Alphas?

[clik_clak]

Why not making the default as full bushido? (all red legends)

And an add-on kit to have the white legend variation for some of the keys? esp Alphas?

I 100% agree. The add-on should be the white and the base should be the all one color.

This just seems like a ploy to try and sell an add-on kit at additional cost.

[biip]

Why not making the default as full bushido? (all red legends)

And an add-on kit to have the white legend variation for some of the keys? esp Alphas?

I 100% agree. The add-on should be the white and the base should be the all one color.

This just seems like a ploy to try and sell an add-on kit at additional cost.

The split does not come from nowhere. It literally symbolize the seppuku ritual (with the blade being on the return key).

[psxndc]

This just seems like a ploy to try and sell an add-on kit at additional cost.

I'm sure this was the idea; Biip's got a house payment to make and the only way to make that happen is to force people to buy an add-on kit. /s 

This is a concept keyset, folks. The two-tone approach is part of that concept. Heck, look at the logo - white on top, red on the bottom. If it ain't your jam, that's fine, but don't accuse Biip - who's one of the most accommodating designers around here - of intentionally trying to stick it to people.

[menuhin]

Why not making the default as full bushido? (all red legends)

And an add-on kit to have the white legend variation for some of the keys? esp Alphas?

I 100% agree. The add-on should be the white and the base should be the all one color.

This just seems like a ploy to try and sell an add-on kit at additional cost.

The split does not come from nowhere. It literally symbolize the seppuku ritual (with the blade being on the return key).

Now I get it.
I would agree if the return key (a blade) row is the only role with a difference legend color (be it red or white) - then it will be more obvious with the idea of seppuku.

If the kit want to make life of most users easier, I would suggest a same legend color base kit - perhaps with a generous seppuku return key added.
And then and add-on kit to achieve the seppuku look, like most other kits that achieve their distinctive look with their add-on kits.

[Vigrith]

ITT people telling a designer how to design his set. More news at 11.

[menuhin]

ITT people telling a designer how to design his set. More news at 11.

I try not to.
As a potential user and consumer, I try to voice out how I feel if I am to use it.

By the way,
What's the difference between the feedback to a design, versus, say, a critic?
And can there be or should there be a critic of art and design?

One can say,
Everything is freedom of expression, and so as art and design, of keyboard stuff.
Designs are more realistic than art in that they need some practicality to fit the users for some purpose; while at the same time it does not need to please all users.

And so it goes, designers should have their freedom to express their design ideas and will, even for some very out of the world ideas;
users who want to contribute feedback should express also freely, as long as not scammingly.
While moderators and admins are the governments, they have the power to control expressions, e.g. who are allowed to run GB or not, who are allowed to post or not.

[psxndc]

ITT people telling a designer how to design his set. More news at 11.

I try not to.
As a potential user and consumer, I try to voice out how I feel if I am to use it.

By the way,
What's the difference between the feedback to a design, versus, say, a critic?
And can there be or should there be a critic of art and design?

I'm not speaking on behalf of anyone else, but I thought what you said was fine, eg, the base kit should all be the same color and white should be an add-on. To me, that's what ICs are for - feedback on the kit.

What I didn't like was clik-clak's suggestion that it was a ploy to charge more money; like biip is being sneaky. And while biip can fight their own battles, my interactions with biip have all been really positive, so it rubbed me the wrong way that they were being attacked and, again, IMHO, that's not what ICs are for.

[ShuraSomething]

Hello, biip! First-time on the site haha this set looks amazing! I've just gotten into the whole keycap space recently and have been following the gmk designs for a bit and have always wanted to get a set for myself I just wanna know if you'll be or are thinking adding Euro keycaps like the 3Ł to the set since the set has the iso layout? Still an amazing design regardless

[CodeMayhem]

Hello, biip! First-time on the site haha this set looks amazing! I've just gotten into the whole keycap space recently and have been following the gmk designs for a bit and have always wanted to get a set for myself I just wanna know if you'll be or are thinking adding Euro keycaps like the 3Ł to the set since the set has the iso layout? Still an amazing design regardless

There are Hiragana Norde molds (nvm i was thinking of ePBT Kuro/Shiro) but no katakana ones. they'd have to be made. increasing the cost of an already pricey add-on-kit which in turn will price some ppl out of a kit that already struggles to hit moq. i know the pain, dvorak user here.

The other challenge is there being the base kit alphas and the dishonor kit, a Norde kit would either have to be two toned leaving out the ppl that want to use the dishonor kit or you'd have to include dishonored keys to the Norde Kit further increasing the price.

but it would be dope.

[biip]

Hello, biip! First-time on the site haha this set looks amazing! I've just gotten into the whole keycap space recently and have been following the gmk designs for a bit and have always wanted to get a set for myself I just wanna know if you'll be or are thinking adding Euro keycaps like the 3Ł to the set since the set has the iso layout? Still an amazing design regardless

That would significantly increase the price. Keep in mind that we already have custom colors and new molds being made for that set

[Owl-]

Any considerations for a R3 1.75u novelty, biip?

[Aevyn]

I'd also prefer if the base set was all one color and the add-on changed the color. Also might be nice to have Latin only alphas (add-on?)

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[justsomerandomusername]

Since people are expressing their opinion on whether they prefer a single color vs dual color on the base kit, I'm also going to express that I prefer the dual color even if I end up buying all the other kits.

Having the base kit with the split is going to draw much more attention compared to a single color.

[NathanielGoodtimes]

Since people are expressing their opinion on whether they prefer a single color vs dual color on the base kit, I'm also going to express that I prefer the dual color even if I end up buying all the other kits.

Having the base kit with the split is going to draw much more attention compared to a single color.

Cannot agree more! The dual color makes this set so unique

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[Willhurt2008]

Since people are expressing their opinion on whether they prefer a single color vs dual color on the base kit, I'm also going to express that I prefer the dual color even if I end up buying all the other kits.

Having the base kit with the split is going to draw much more attention compared to a single color.

Cannot agree more! The dual color makes this set so unique

Yes! Without white it's just a nice black-and-red set, but with white it's unforgettable

[nightgyr]

cant wait for this GB. I am really liking the color sets.

[Robosculpts]

This is a fantastic set. Imagining them on various keyboards.

Edit: Just read all the drama. Geez... I hope you don't sway from your original vision.

[menuhin]

I hope I will have enough money to get this set when this GB run... and I will get also the “Dishonest set” to make a bright blood red on grey consistent aesthetics. And I hope there can be some extra white on grey set so as to make this lovely set even more versatile.
I dig the colorway and I collect toys related to Samurai since I was small.

Just the base set will cost almost 75% of the money I can spend in a whole month, and I have to save enough for this set.

As a topic related to Bushidō - which is not limited to the book much later written by Inazo Nitobe for the western audience “Bushidō: The Soul of Japan”, I live in Berlin which is kind of a gay people center of Europe, and many good friends are gay and are more and more fond of the Samurai culture because as a matter of historical fact most if not all of the Samurai were homosexual or at least practiced mostly homosexuality. It is not talked about as often because modern Japan after late 19th century was converted to scrap homosexuality as part of its normal practice. The Samurai preferred sex with guys than with women as a superstitious thinking to stay away from “getting more feminine” if they have sex with females, and so they could stay strong if they get lucky with men instead.. Their Samurai code of conduct and also some fighting skills, which is explored by that book I mentioned above, was passed on almost like an ancient Greek way: an older Samurai usually would “bond with” a younger boy Samurai-wannabe to teach him all these and at the same time engage with this boy the way of men love.
I just felt fascinated when I learnt about this.

[Jude.]

Looks amazing! 100% in

[Katsurio]

To piggyback on others' suggestions, I'd also prefer the single toned legends in the base kit. It makes sense to have the different legends as a kit to keep costs down, which is important to me since there are so many sets I want on the horizon. Having more customized looks relegated to kits seems to be the norm anyway. I absolutely love this set, but the overall price will definitely affect my participation since I want full bushido, spacebars, and novelties.

Awesome work though!!!

[clasicks]

I hope I will have enough money to get this set when this GB run... and I will get also the “Dishonest set” to make a bright blood red on grey consistent aesthetics. And I hope there can be some extra white on grey set so as to make this lovely set even more versatile.
I dig the colorway and I collect toys related to Samurai since I was small.

Just the base set will cost almost 75% of the money I can spend in a whole month, and I have to save enough for this set.

As a topic related to Bushidō - which is not limited to the book much later written by Inazo Nitobe for the western audience “Bushidō: The Soul of Japan”, I live in Berlin which is kind of a gay people center of Europe, and many good friends are gay and are more and more fond of the Samurai culture because as a matter of historical fact most if not all of the Samurai were homosexual or at least practiced mostly homosexuality. It is not talked about as often because modern Japan after late 19th century was converted to scrap homosexuality as part of its normal practice. The Samurai preferred sex with guys than with women as a superstitious thinking to stay away from “getting more feminine” if they have sex with females, and so they could stay strong if they get lucky with men instead.. Their Samurai code of conduct and also some fighting skills, which is explored by that book I mentioned above, was passed on almost like an ancient Greek way: an older Samurai usually would “bond with” a younger boy Samurai-wannabe to teach him all these and at the same time engage with this boy the way of men love.
I just felt fascinated when I learnt about this.

thanks for the extremely off topic information!

[menuhin]

I hope I will have enough money to get this set when this GB run... and I will get also the “Dishonest set” to make a bright blood red on grey consistent aesthetics. And I hope there can be some extra white on grey set so as to make this lovely set even more versatile.
I dig the colorway and I collect toys related to Samurai since I was small.

Just the base set will cost almost 75% of the money I can spend in a whole month, and I have to save enough for this set.

As a topic related to Bushidō - which is not limited to the book much later written by Inazo Nitobe for the western audience “Bushidō: The Soul of Japan”, I live in Berlin which is kind of a gay people center of Europe, and many good friends are gay and are more and more fond of the Samurai culture because as a matter of historical fact most if not all of the Samurai were homosexual or at least practiced mostly homosexuality. It is not talked about as often because modern Japan after late 19th century was converted to scrap homosexuality as part of its normal practice. The Samurai preferred sex with guys than with women as a superstitious thinking to stay away from “getting more feminine” if they have sex with females, and so they could stay strong if they get lucky with men instead.. Their Samurai code of conduct and also some fighting skills, which is explored by that book I mentioned above, was passed on almost like an ancient Greek way: an older Samurai usually would “bond with” a younger boy Samurai-wannabe to teach him all these and at the same time engage with this boy the way of men love.
I just felt fascinated when I learnt about this.

thanks for the extremely off topic information!

I really dig RO2 red of GMK and the modern grey.

Bushidō and Samurai - this is actually quite on topic
https://www.tofugu.com/japan/gay-samurai/
(I don't totally agree with how the author evaluate that particular "Bushidō" book versus the real Bushidō, but he dag up some real history)

[Robosculpts]

Can someone tell me why there is a R3 1u \ and a R4 1u \ under the ISO enter in the base set picture? I'd totally use the R4 1u \ to switch my 1u enter to R3 in a preonic. But I'm starting to think that one of those might be a mistake, maybe, I'm not sure.

EDIT: I guess it's an ISO thing.

[bthezebra]

I will provide another vote for keeping the base as-is, it makes this set unique and would be the only way I use it. If someone wants something outside of the designers vision then that should be extra.

[bliss]

Can someone tell me why there is a R3 1u \ and a R4 1u \ under the ISO enter in the base set picture? I'd totally use the R4 1u \ to switch my 1u enter to R3 in a preonic. But I'm starting to think that one of those might be a mistake, maybe, I'm not sure.

EDIT: I guess it's an ISO thing.

These are perfectly fine. US over ISO, PC style

[Robosculpts]

Can someone tell me why there is a R3 1u \ and a R4 1u \ under the ISO enter in the base set picture? I'd totally use the R4 1u \ to switch my 1u enter to R3 in a preonic. But I'm starting to think that one of those might be a mistake, maybe, I'm not sure.

EDIT: I guess it's an ISO thing.

These are perfectly fine. US over ISO, PC style

More than fine, really. If I could only get a R3 page up so I could put this set in the SP111. I'm already going to get 2 sets of this haha. This whole set is ace!

[clik_clak]

ITT people telling a designer how to design his set. More news at 11.

I try not to.
As a potential user and consumer, I try to voice out how I feel if I am to use it.

By the way,
What's the difference between the feedback to a design, versus, say, a critic?
And can there be or should there be a critic of art and design?

I'm not speaking on behalf of anyone else, but I thought what you said was fine, eg, the base kit should all be the same color and white should be an add-on. To me, that's what ICs are for - feedback on the kit.

What I didn't like was clik-clak's suggestion that it was a ploy to charge more money; like biip is being sneaky. And while biip can fight their own battles, my interactions with biip have all been really positive, so it rubbed me the wrong way that they were being attacked and, again, IMHO, that's not what ICs are for.

I don't really care if you don't like my suggestion. I called it as I saw it.

Biip came in and explained why the setup is done the way it is, and it makes sense to me. I'll get the set regardless, and the vendor that sells it will get extra from me for the add-on kit. It's a win-win situation for all.

[otanishock]

Any chance of tossing in an extra "B" to the spacebar kit brother? Normally the "0" from the numpad kit serves it well for my Alice, but with the dual legends that ain't look so hot no more   

[psxndc]

I don't really care if you don't like my suggestion. I called it as I saw it.

It wasn't your suggestion I didn't like, it was that you were being an a-hole in the way you made it. I don't really care if you don't like my suggestion on your conduct. I called it as I saw it.

[Arithmetics]

keep set as is. def what makes it unique and eye catching. im in for this set all the way

[biip]

keep set as is. def what makes it unique and eye catching. im in for this set all the way

I don't plan to change the base kit
I'm considering a white addon kit though. But I'm waiting for GMK to give me a sign atm.

[DukeEsquire]

I would very much be in for a white add-on kit.

[obitwo]

Hi, new member, signed up just so I can support this set. I'm in for the base, samurai, dishonor and space kit.