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Offline rnak92a

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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« on: Wed, 23 September 2009, 10:31:28 »
ML 4400, NEW, $50.65 BIN + $7.25 USPS Priority
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140347806442

MX 8100, POS, $75.80 + $9.15 USPS Priority
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130332854012

Potentially interesting listings, and Brian always sells top-condition keyboards.  

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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 23 September 2009, 11:16:43 »
I have no doubt that those are good keyboards, they just seem overpriced.
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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 23 September 2009, 11:24:06 »
Quote from: timw4mail;120029
I have no doubt that those are good keyboards, they just seem overpriced.

Agreed, but value is in the eye of the buyer.  :lol:
My keyboards, numpads, and pointing devices
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Quote from: Hak Foo
The label says, "World\'s best... guaranteed."

What would happen if I bought one and sent them a nasty letter that read:

"1391401.  I want my money back."
 


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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 23 September 2009, 13:27:05 »
The MX 8100 looks a little high for a used 'board, but the ML 4400 looks about right for a NIB.
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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 23 September 2009, 14:59:16 »
Quote from: webwit;120064
I have a used but clean ML 4400, beige, in original packaging, but I don't like these. 10 euro and it is yours.

I'm guessing that translates to a lot more if shipped overseas...
Buckling Springs IBM Model F AT, New Model F 77, Unicomp New Model M
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Tactile Apple AEKII (Cream damped ALPS), Filco FKBN91M/JB (Japanese Tenkeyless), Cherry G84-5200, Cherry G84-4100LPAUS, Datalux Spacesaver(Cherry ML), Redragon Devarajas K556 RGB, Newmen GM711, Poker II (Cherry MX Clear), Logitech G910 Orion Spark, Logitech K840
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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 23 September 2009, 20:32:21 »
The MX 8100 apparently has the "clear" MX switches, so I found one at a different auction.
Buckling Springs IBM Model F AT, New Model F 77, Unicomp New Model M
Clicky iOne Scorpius M10, OCN-branded Ducky DK-9008-C, Blackmore Nocturna, Redragon Kumara K552-1, Qtronix Scorpius Keypad, Chicony KB-5181(Monterey)
Tactile Apple AEKII (Cream damped ALPS), Filco FKBN91M/JB (Japanese Tenkeyless), Cherry G84-5200, Cherry G84-4100LPAUS, Datalux Spacesaver(Cherry ML), Redragon Devarajas K556 RGB, Newmen GM711, Poker II (Cherry MX Clear), Logitech G910 Orion Spark, Logitech K840
Linear Lenovo Y (Gateron Red), Aluminum kiosk keyboard (Cherry MX Black)

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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 23 September 2009, 22:29:56 »
Quote from: timw4mail;120171
The MX 8100 apparently has the "clear" MX switches, so I found one at a different auction.
I will get one if they do. Post pics please.
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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 05:10:11 »
Here's one set of pictures...

http://mykeyboard.co.uk/cherry/mx_8100/

The type of switch is confirmed here by Sandy:
http://sandy55.fc2web.com/keyboard/cherry.html
Buckling Springs IBM Model F AT, New Model F 77, Unicomp New Model M
Clicky iOne Scorpius M10, OCN-branded Ducky DK-9008-C, Blackmore Nocturna, Redragon Kumara K552-1, Qtronix Scorpius Keypad, Chicony KB-5181(Monterey)
Tactile Apple AEKII (Cream damped ALPS), Filco FKBN91M/JB (Japanese Tenkeyless), Cherry G84-5200, Cherry G84-4100LPAUS, Datalux Spacesaver(Cherry ML), Redragon Devarajas K556 RGB, Newmen GM711, Poker II (Cherry MX Clear), Logitech G910 Orion Spark, Logitech K840
Linear Lenovo Y (Gateron Red), Aluminum kiosk keyboard (Cherry MX Black)

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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 06:34:19 »
I love the title in this auction: Cherry POS Keyboard w/ Credit Card Swiper MX 8100 white.
I wouldn't call it "white".

Are there any "normal" keyboards with clear Cherries? (Apart from Deck)
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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 06:43:17 »
Quote from: jbert;120222
are there any "normal" keyboards with clear cherries? (apart from deck)
The G80-3000LQC??-? features white switches.
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Buckling Springs IBM Model F AT, New Model F 77, Unicomp New Model M
Clicky iOne Scorpius M10, OCN-branded Ducky DK-9008-C, Blackmore Nocturna, Redragon Kumara K552-1, Qtronix Scorpius Keypad, Chicony KB-5181(Monterey)
Tactile Apple AEKII (Cream damped ALPS), Filco FKBN91M/JB (Japanese Tenkeyless), Cherry G84-5200, Cherry G84-4100LPAUS, Datalux Spacesaver(Cherry ML), Redragon Devarajas K556 RGB, Newmen GM711, Poker II (Cherry MX Clear), Logitech G910 Orion Spark, Logitech K840
Linear Lenovo Y (Gateron Red), Aluminum kiosk keyboard (Cherry MX Black)

Offline itlnstln

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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 08:02:20 »
Quote from: timw4mail;120237
Here's the auction I got one from for $35:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Cherry-Credit-Card-KeyBoard-POS-USB-MX8100-MX-8100_W0QQitemZ360190488092QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item53dd06ae1c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

I'm pretty sure the one this auction has blacks intstead of clears, though.


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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 08:20:56 »
FYI: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=4788&highlight=cherry+model+number
 
I couldn't find this reference in the Wiki. If it's truly not there (i.e. I'm not a complete dumba*s), I will add it as I think it's pretty handy.
 
EDIT: I added it to the "Cherry Switches and 'Boards" wiki under FAQs.  I wanted to give it it's own section, but I couldn't figure out how to edit the TOC and add a new section.
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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 08:39:08 »
Quote from: itlnstln;120240
FYI: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=4788&highlight=cherry+model+number
 
I couldn't find this reference in the Wiki. If it's truly not there (i.e. I'm not a complete dumba*s), I will add it as I think it's pretty handy.
 
EDIT: I added it to the "Cherry Switches and 'Boards" wiki under FAQs.  I wanted to give it it's own section, but I couldn't figure out how to edit the TOC and add a new section.

That's incorrect for at least the Compaq MX11800, because the model number is
G80-11801LPAUS
which, according to that guide, would have black switches.
Buckling Springs IBM Model F AT, New Model F 77, Unicomp New Model M
Clicky iOne Scorpius M10, OCN-branded Ducky DK-9008-C, Blackmore Nocturna, Redragon Kumara K552-1, Qtronix Scorpius Keypad, Chicony KB-5181(Monterey)
Tactile Apple AEKII (Cream damped ALPS), Filco FKBN91M/JB (Japanese Tenkeyless), Cherry G84-5200, Cherry G84-4100LPAUS, Datalux Spacesaver(Cherry ML), Redragon Devarajas K556 RGB, Newmen GM711, Poker II (Cherry MX Clear), Logitech G910 Orion Spark, Logitech K840
Linear Lenovo Y (Gateron Red), Aluminum kiosk keyboard (Cherry MX Black)

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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 08:56:13 »
Not incorrect, per se, just incomplete.  Read the PDF Chole links to at the end of the thread.  It looks like there are a lot of different combinations Cherry uses.  Perhaps some other folks with more Cherry experience (I'm looking at you, lowpoly) would be able to explain it.


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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 09:30:10 »
Even though there are a lot of models in the G80 range, the serial numbers are different for almost every other keyboard model - especially for OEM runs like the Compaq.
IBM Model F XT + Soarer's USB Converter || Cherry G80-3000/Clears

The storage list:
IBM Model F AT || Cherry G80-3000/Blues || Compaq MX11800 (Cherry brown, bizarre layout) || IBM KB-8923 (model M-style RD) || G81-3010 Hxx || BTC 5100C || G81-3000 Sxx || Atari keyboard (?)


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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 11:42:00 »
Quote from: JBert;120222
I wouldn't call it "white".


"Unit is not cosmetically perfect, they are extremely dirty"

Phew, yeah.  They could just as easily said, "Unit is not cosmetically perfect, they were rescued from the pit of an outhouse" and I would have believed them.
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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 14:53:03 »
Quote from: itlnstln;120243
Perhaps some other folks with more Cherry experience (I'm looking at you, lowpoly) would be able to explain it.

I only know the standard codes, not the more exotic ones. :-(

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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 14:59:38 »
Quote from: lowpoly;120333
I only know the standard codes, not the more exotic ones. :-(

D*mn.  Thanks anyway.
 
It looks like the second letter might represent some combination of connection type and stem.  The first letter, for sure, is cap type and the last two are, for sure, the layout.


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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 16:03:12 »
Here is a G80-8113LUVEU-2 with browns. Does that shed any light?
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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 21:12:56 »
Quote from: 1839cc;120354
Here is a G80-8113LUVEU-2 with browns. Does that shed any light?

Not really... I would like to know that the board I got actually has "clears". If not...I guess I have a nice new set of black lasered keycaps...
Buckling Springs IBM Model F AT, New Model F 77, Unicomp New Model M
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Tactile Apple AEKII (Cream damped ALPS), Filco FKBN91M/JB (Japanese Tenkeyless), Cherry G84-5200, Cherry G84-4100LPAUS, Datalux Spacesaver(Cherry ML), Redragon Devarajas K556 RGB, Newmen GM711, Poker II (Cherry MX Clear), Logitech G910 Orion Spark, Logitech K840
Linear Lenovo Y (Gateron Red), Aluminum kiosk keyboard (Cherry MX Black)

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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 22:02:48 »
I would like to find a cheap, plentiful source of clears in the US......

The one you got, what model number does it have?
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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 22:04:33 »
g80-8963lubus-2
Buckling Springs IBM Model F AT, New Model F 77, Unicomp New Model M
Clicky iOne Scorpius M10, OCN-branded Ducky DK-9008-C, Blackmore Nocturna, Redragon Kumara K552-1, Qtronix Scorpius Keypad, Chicony KB-5181(Monterey)
Tactile Apple AEKII (Cream damped ALPS), Filco FKBN91M/JB (Japanese Tenkeyless), Cherry G84-5200, Cherry G84-4100LPAUS, Datalux Spacesaver(Cherry ML), Redragon Devarajas K556 RGB, Newmen GM711, Poker II (Cherry MX Clear), Logitech G910 Orion Spark, Logitech K840
Linear Lenovo Y (Gateron Red), Aluminum kiosk keyboard (Cherry MX Black)

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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 22:09:50 »
Will be interesting to see.
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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 29 September 2009, 10:04:22 »
Well, it doesn't have clears, or blacks. In fact, it was browns! Weird, but there's a new source of Cherry brown keyboards.
Buckling Springs IBM Model F AT, New Model F 77, Unicomp New Model M
Clicky iOne Scorpius M10, OCN-branded Ducky DK-9008-C, Blackmore Nocturna, Redragon Kumara K552-1, Qtronix Scorpius Keypad, Chicony KB-5181(Monterey)
Tactile Apple AEKII (Cream damped ALPS), Filco FKBN91M/JB (Japanese Tenkeyless), Cherry G84-5200, Cherry G84-4100LPAUS, Datalux Spacesaver(Cherry ML), Redragon Devarajas K556 RGB, Newmen GM711, Poker II (Cherry MX Clear), Logitech G910 Orion Spark, Logitech K840
Linear Lenovo Y (Gateron Red), Aluminum kiosk keyboard (Cherry MX Black)

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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 29 September 2009, 10:21:37 »
Fantastic.  Great find.


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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 29 September 2009, 11:04:03 »
Where's the Rosetta Stone when you need it?


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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 29 September 2009, 11:09:39 »
Oh, and the keyboard is USB.
Buckling Springs IBM Model F AT, New Model F 77, Unicomp New Model M
Clicky iOne Scorpius M10, OCN-branded Ducky DK-9008-C, Blackmore Nocturna, Redragon Kumara K552-1, Qtronix Scorpius Keypad, Chicony KB-5181(Monterey)
Tactile Apple AEKII (Cream damped ALPS), Filco FKBN91M/JB (Japanese Tenkeyless), Cherry G84-5200, Cherry G84-4100LPAUS, Datalux Spacesaver(Cherry ML), Redragon Devarajas K556 RGB, Newmen GM711, Poker II (Cherry MX Clear), Logitech G910 Orion Spark, Logitech K840
Linear Lenovo Y (Gateron Red), Aluminum kiosk keyboard (Cherry MX Black)

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Brian O'Neil: CHERRY ML 4400, MX 8100
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 29 September 2009, 11:39:50 »
Quote from: ripster;121450
What kind of shape was it in?   POS keyboards tend to be heavily used.

Not bad, missing four clear caps, a little dirtying of the legends, but otherwise pretty new looking.
Buckling Springs IBM Model F AT, New Model F 77, Unicomp New Model M
Clicky iOne Scorpius M10, OCN-branded Ducky DK-9008-C, Blackmore Nocturna, Redragon Kumara K552-1, Qtronix Scorpius Keypad, Chicony KB-5181(Monterey)
Tactile Apple AEKII (Cream damped ALPS), Filco FKBN91M/JB (Japanese Tenkeyless), Cherry G84-5200, Cherry G84-4100LPAUS, Datalux Spacesaver(Cherry ML), Redragon Devarajas K556 RGB, Newmen GM711, Poker II (Cherry MX Clear), Logitech G910 Orion Spark, Logitech K840
Linear Lenovo Y (Gateron Red), Aluminum kiosk keyboard (Cherry MX Black)