I was wondering this for a while. What would you think of setting up an IC for a very simple WoB or BoW GMK keyset but specifically for some International kits such as a FR/BE/CH kit. We could add more if there's interest. The kit would reach over 60 keys but with combined forces we might be able to do it? Just for *once* to have a high quality set with the legends I actually want.
A WoB set might even work for some sets that have lighter Alphas.
FYI there's one Swiss layout IC for a GMK WoB/BoW: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111202.0
This is all quite old. And involves the De kit which is very well represented if there are so called "International" kits.
I think Germany, UK, Denmark amd Swedes are very lucky to be the ones represented in those "International" kits.
I was hoping to do a french kit and add Swiss as well. Basically what is NOT represented in that one falsely called "International" kit.
Maybe it has more resonance since these languages are never covered.
I wish the GB process wouldn't be so limited and flexibility from the manufacturer would be more considerate towards other nationalities.
Love the way people think AZERTY is only one layout.... :rolleyes:
ISO De is easy to find, you can find lot of old cherry boards with ISO De keycaps. And some new GMK keysets support that layout.
ISO Be is really hard to find, in 5 years in the hobby i only find less than 10 cherry sets, and i never see a new GMK keysets with ISO Be support.
That's why like you, lot of people go on ANSI layout, it's more easy ;)
Best option will be to get a uniform profile set and move the keys around as you please, like dsa, kat, or r3 uniform SA (uniform r3 is usually not mass market I think)Dual symbol keys are not the same though, and the whole number row is completely different (numbers are flipped to start with).
The more i think about it, the more I find it should be a good idea to continue this thread or create a shared doc with all kits we find with ISO support (BE / FR / ES / IT / etc..). It may help beginners or people like us who do not want to switch to ANSI.
If you're looking for a temp ISO-FR keyset for cheap your can buy this one on Amazon "YMDK 61 64 68 DSA Profile 9009 Dye Sub ANSI ISO AZERTY QWERTZ Espagne UK French German Italian Keyset PBT Keycap pour clavier MX (ensemble français ISO)". It's DSA profile but cheap (35€) and cover 65 layout.
There is an other one with more keys just check YMDK.
That's what I did to wait for my GB order (ePBT for exemple). Quality is very nice for the price, spacebar is not warped and DSA is not that bad for couple of months =)
Hello everyone! I am a new mechanical keyboard enthusiast but living in Belgium I have one issue... AZERTY keyboards.
Would you know great places where I can find AZERTY keycaps?
And also please, when creating keycaps... Think about us... Poor AZERTY users. You would make our life much easier. ;)
The latest one I saw taking care of us was 'EPBT the one' and each time is see a great keycap that match my taste... No AZERTY.
Sorry if there was an existing thread around this... But I did not find any.
And enjoy your Thock... :)
Philippe aka Toxine ;D
An other zone with ISO-fr (added recently)
The GB whould Stuart novembre 1st : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114064.0
And for info there's a french company that sells some decent pbt iso fr keycaps :
https://yunk.fr/collections/keycaps-azerty
they have the basic black & white aswell as a lotus green one that i might cop but not sure about the quality
they also propose DSA profiles
Oh really ? I didn't know that thanks for telling me I would've definitely gotten scalpedAnd for info there's a french company that sells some decent pbt iso fr keycaps :
https://yunk.fr/collections/keycaps-azerty
they have the basic black & white aswell as a lotus green one that i might cop but not sure about the quality
they also propose DSA profiles
The keycaps on yunk.fr are just the ones made by YMDK, you can order them from aliexpress or the YMDK website directly for a third of the price
Oh really ? I didn't know that thanks for telling me I would've definitely gotten scalped
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Hi Guys,
I posted the IC for KAM Popelka (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115441.0) a few weeks ago.
At the moment I've included Alpha kits for German Czech and Nordic and had requests for French.
I was wondering which versions are the most useful for you. - AZERTY French/belgian, BEPO? (Swiss, Canadian French?)
It would be good too know what your preferences would be - separate kits or (partially) combined for example.
Please also check the interest check form (https://forms.gle/jp3HG6BWjLRJhU179)
Thanks!
There are three kits by Biip that should receive stock soon (they are not GBs), and I think all of them will include FR support:found also this set from biip :
https://oblotzky.industries/products/pbt-notion
https://oblotzky.industries/products/pbt-cherry-milkshake
https://oblotzky.industries/products/pbt-dsa-milkshake
Yo can check the kits that will be included with both Milkshake sets. PBT notion will have a new International kit like the one in Cherry Milkshake.
thanks guys. mylkshake looks great. So yes, some international kit include "partialy" french kit. indeed, it does not always have the second symbol with the numbers,
but it's better than nothing.
there is a kit with a nice R1 line, Winter breath, but only the french kit is available. I probably gonna get it just to have the complete line, and complete with another cherry profile kit. I think I gonna have to mismatch a lot to make my perfect keycaps set.
https://candykeys.com/product/epbt-winter-breath
Winter breath is a past group-buy, there may be some extras for the base kit but it's not sure and will be hard to get. Also, the ETA is not realistic : don't expect to get anything before Christmas or even next spring
For other users, this kit have support for Danish, Estonian, Faroese, German, Icelandic, Norwegian, Swedish & Finnish, French, Belgian-French, Italian, Spanish and Portuguese : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111651.0nice kit, just join the thread, thanks. the interest form doesn't include the french kit.
Hi Guys,Seems nothing missing, the font is clearly not for me. Personaly, also find the 0 a bit weird (more like o than 0) but I appreciate the effort to offer a kit for my countrymen
I'm finishing up an additional AZERTY French/Belgian alpha kit for KAM Popelka - would this work for you or is there anything missing?
There are three kits by Biip that should receive stock soon (they are not GBs), and I think all of them will include FR support:
https://oblotzky.industries/products/pbt-notion
https://oblotzky.industries/products/pbt-cherry-milkshake
https://oblotzky.industries/products/pbt-dsa-milkshake
Yo can check the kits that will be included with both Milkshake sets. PBT notion will have a new International kit like the one in Cherry Milkshake.
Hi Guys,
I'm finishing up an additional AZERTY French/Belgian alpha kit for KAM Popelka - would this work for you or is there anything missing?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hg5SEuN.png)