Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 08:41:30
This is a GB for Gateron Switches, those magical MX-compatible switches you've been hearing all about. Pricing will start at $0.24/switch, and will go down depending on the pricing tiers we can hit. If we can hit 20k (a large order, I know) price will drop to $0.16/switch. I'd like to ask just to make things a little easier that everyone order in 10s. Orders will close March 12th at 11:59 PM EST. Invoices will be going out periodically, and you will have til the 16th to pay it. Orders should be shipped out by April 1/2. We are ordering from Gateron directly, and Shadovved will be sorting and shipping them. There will be a $3.5 handling fee.
Shipping Guidelines (we'll be using Singapore Post standard regular mail w/ added tracking)
0-100: $8
101-200: $16
201-300: $24
If you want to learn a little more about the switches, here are some reviews:
Teardown and Review (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68113.0)
Review (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68145.msg1639775#msg1639775)
Build log using Gateron Clears (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68061.0)
Review (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68955.0)
Review w/Blacks (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68943.msg1654419#msg1654419)
Final Numbers:
Clears: 32,100
Blues: 26,000
Blacks: 34,400
Browns: 22,700
And make sure to check out the sister Gateron buy for clear switch tops: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68356.0
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 18 February 2015, 09:38:55
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 09:39:52
ordered about 1300 to get you startedawesome, thanks man ;D
Post by: Sygaldry on Wed, 18 February 2015, 09:42:54
Thanks for running this GB by the way!
Post by: Lpwl on Wed, 18 February 2015, 09:43:26
Thank you.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 18 February 2015, 09:45:36
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 09:48:05
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 18 February 2015, 09:48:14
Are these coming from manufacturer or vendor?
And to clarify they are shipping to individuals from Singapore directly so you wont be sorting and re-shipping?
Are you basically collecting orders and money then forwarding to a reseller??
My money needs more details.
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 09:55:59
Any more details? ETA after order deadline is?sorry, updated the OP
Are these coming from manufacturer or vendor?
And to clarify they are shipping to individuals from Singapore directly so you wont be sorting and re-shipping?
Are you basically collecting orders and money then forwarding to a reseller??
My money needs more details.
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 10:05:14
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 10:06:14
Post by: ideus on Wed, 18 February 2015, 10:25:52
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 18 February 2015, 10:27:14
Post by: monotagary on Wed, 18 February 2015, 10:28:53
Post by: ideus on Wed, 18 February 2015, 10:31:40
Count me in for 250! Thanks for working really hard to make this GB happen Hwood. I know MD ****ed you over a bit, but we all know who will end up running the better GB. :thumb:
At MD you are forced to order in hundreds, the shipping is a steal and you should wait for the product to circumvent the world before it reaches you. And the price is higher, because they keep the benefit of getting lower prices due to higher volumes.
Post by: DrHubblePhD on Wed, 18 February 2015, 10:32:42
Count me in for 250! Thanks for working really hard to make this GB happen Hwood. I know MD ****ed you over a bit, but we all know who will end up running the better GB. :thumb:
At MD you are forced to order in hundreds, the shipping is a steal and you should wait for the product to circumvent the world before it reaches you. And the price is higher, because they keep the benefit of getting lower prices due to higher volumes.
Yeah f*** massdrop
Post by: kulaan on Wed, 18 February 2015, 10:35:48
Post by: primered6 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 10:43:42
Prefer the look of these to the Matias I was looking at for a DIY build. :D
Post by: b7ad on Wed, 18 February 2015, 10:50:33
Post by: snipars on Wed, 18 February 2015, 10:51:01
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 February 2015, 11:05:19
Edit: Placed an order for 200. This is just so that I remember later. XD
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 18 February 2015, 11:06:26
If we can hit the 20K tier that would be awesome.
I'll probably add more to my order if we get close.
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 11:06:39
Shoutouts to based shadovved for handling this! And I guess hwood is cool;)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 18 February 2015, 11:11:58
If we can hit the 20K tier that would be awesome.
I'll probably add more to my order if we get close.
That's the spirit.
Post by: justify on Wed, 18 February 2015, 11:13:55
Post by: limitz on Wed, 18 February 2015, 11:15:05
Thanks for setting this up. The keyboard switches I'm planning on building this year are:
68g ergo-Clears
lubed vintage Blacks
White lightning
lubed stock-Clears
However, this drop has made me really want to build a Gateron build this year.
The real funny part is a lot of people claim that Cherry MX switches are the end-all-be-all switch, when stock Cherry's don't even feel all that good.
Post by: HendyZone on Wed, 18 February 2015, 11:17:43
i support you hwood :thumb:
ordered ~1000
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 18 February 2015, 11:28:18
Post by: animated on Wed, 18 February 2015, 11:30:57
Post by: monotagary on Wed, 18 February 2015, 11:37:12
Hard to go with anyone else besides you since you did so much research on it. I'm pretty new to the whole switches game, MX has PCB and plate mounted categories when you try to order switches, does that matter for Gateron?
Gaterons are PCB mount only, but they can be made into plate mount by clipping them!
Post by: daftendire on Wed, 18 February 2015, 11:42:48
Can't decide on which switch to order!
-in for 100 blacks atm.
-resubmitted my form with correct info
Post by: rand on Wed, 18 February 2015, 11:59:39
Post by: ccc24 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 12:02:18
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 18 February 2015, 12:04:42
Would anyone happen to know if a Cherry Clear stem will fit in the Gateron Switch housings? I love me some ergo-clears
EDIT: sorry, misread.
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 12:08:29
Would anyone happen to know if a Cherry Clear stem will fit in the Gateron Switch housings? I love me some ergo-clearsYep, every gateron part is compatible with any cherry part
is the reduced price point at 20k per switch or total amount of orders?20k for each switch
Post by: rand on Wed, 18 February 2015, 12:10:51
Would anyone happen to know if a Cherry Clear stem will fit in the Gateron Switch housings? I love me some ergo-clearsYep, every gateron part is compatible with any cherry partis the reduced price point at 20k per switch or total amount of orders?20k for each switch
Post by: kulaan on Wed, 18 February 2015, 12:17:35
Gaterons are PCB mount only, but they can be made into plate mount by clipping them!
What do you mean by clipping?
Post by: danwomansan on Wed, 18 February 2015, 12:21:42
Post by: qwack on Wed, 18 February 2015, 12:26:50
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 18 February 2015, 12:28:56
Gaterons are PCB mount only, but they can be made into plate mount by clipping them!
What do you mean by clipping?
If you plate mount and the PCB doesn't have holes for the legs on the bottom of the switch housing you simply clip those two plastic legs off with a pair of cutters.
Post by: billnye on Wed, 18 February 2015, 12:31:59
(http://i.imgur.com/KdN3SgG.jpg)Gaterons are PCB mount only, but they can be made into plate mount by clipping them!
What do you mean by clipping?
If you plate mount and the PCB doesn't have holes for the legs on the bottom of the switch housing you simply clip those two plastic legs off with a pair of cutters.
Post by: strict on Wed, 18 February 2015, 12:32:44
Gaterons are PCB mount only, but they can be made into plate mount by clipping them!
What do you mean by clipping?
You can clip the legs off to make them fit plate mount
Picture! (http://i.imgur.com/QoIZaaR.jpg)
Post by: monotagary on Wed, 18 February 2015, 12:34:58
Gaterons are PCB mount only, but they can be made into plate mount by clipping them!
What do you mean by clipping?
(http://deskthority.net/w/images/3/35/CherryMxPlatePcbMounted.jpg)
See those extra legs on the PCB mount switch? Clip those off and then bam! You have a plate mount switch.
Post by: Fire Brand on Wed, 18 February 2015, 12:53:55
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:01:07
Put my order in might add more later, but dang the thread has LOADS of people viewing hopefully we get that 20k on the clears which I think is what most will buy :)
I'm interested to see how much space 20,000 switches take up. Hopefully, we see some pics.
Post by: bigboij on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:05:50
Post by: kulaan on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:08:13
Post by: mashby on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:08:43
Post by: RavenII on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:12:25
Pardon my ignorance as I've never participated in a GB before, primarily because of the bad things I've heard, but you're doing the community a SOLID one and I'd like to contribute (by participating)...I was just wondering the following...
1. Have you ever done a GB before?
2. Are .24 and .16 the only price points? or are there prices in the middle?
3. Is the ship date to the GB participants? or from the factory to Shadovved?
4. When is payment taken/when will my card be charged?
Thanks in advance...
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:12:53
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:15:00
Cross posted from /r/mechanicalkeyboards1. No , but Shadovved has lots of experience with these types of things and is a huge help
Pardon my ignorance as I've never participated in a GB before, primarily because of the bad things I've heard, but you're doing the community a SOLID one and I'd like to contribute (by participating)...I was just wondering the following...
1. Have you ever done a GB before?
2. Are .24 and .16 the only price points? or are there prices in the middle?
3. Is the ship date to the GB participants? or from the factory to Shadovved?
4. When is payment taken/when will my card be charged?
Thanks in advance...
2. We're talking more to Gateron, but those are the only two we have so far, thought we may get more.
3. The ship date is an estimate of when Shadovved will be shipping them out.
4. Invoices will be sent in the week after the buy ends
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:23:12
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:25:04
And since all of these will be international orders technically, please include a name
Do we need phone numbers as well?
Quote
margo baggins, tlem, Eiji, Dvoryke, danwomansan, Lpwl, bigboij, Bricolage, Sygaldry, potatowire, rand, MichaelBrock, kulaan, Merloobi, Zeroo, pro_LAPSE, merkabish, Tajot, H4g3N, Jason_IRL, wlhlm, GenKaan, derzemel, crashthenet44, xmc, W, Wobbly Bot, dclaw, smellz, Jama, mondoman712, evera, AlexK6, pexon, sundin, swill, kraffs, dothm, nano, dashing_girlboy, jasimeii, zisb, ijack, FourOhFour, Kehrin, pasph, khsieh, Artonkn, Friskywhisker, foopod, Rafa_n, choiboi, joey, loke, nifty, BaroquenRecord, Mahwler, haggardwolf, Pieminister, kinglukas38, Mooksie, faceyourfaces (+ 2 Hidden) and 473 Guests are viewing this topic.
So uh, this buy seems a little popular LOL.
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:27:24
YepAnd since all of these will be international orders technically, please include a name
Do we need phone numbers as well?
Post by: Eiji on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:28:17
Post by: margo baggins on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:30:09
Post by: robinvuurdraak on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:31:42
Post by: RavenII on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:33:37
Cross posted from /r/mechanicalkeyboards1. No , but Shadovved has lots of experience with these types of things and is a huge help
Pardon my ignorance as I've never participated in a GB before, primarily because of the bad things I've heard, but you're doing the community a SOLID one and I'd like to contribute (by participating)...I was just wondering the following...
1. Have you ever done a GB before?
2. Are .24 and .16 the only price points? or are there prices in the middle?
3. Is the ship date to the GB participants? or from the factory to Shadovved?
4. When is payment taken/when will my card be charged?
Thanks in advance...
2. We're talking more to Gateron, but those are the only two we have so far, thought we may get more.
3. The ship date is an estimate of when Shadovved will be shipping them out.
4. Invoices will be sent in the week after the buy ends
1. I appreciate the honesty, the way I look at it is, you gotta start somewhere...here's hoping for a successful GB.
2. Good to know.
3. Also, good to know, I thought it was from the factory because it takes months sometimes to get stuff shipped from China.
4. Paypal??
Post by: strict on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:37:20
Post by: margo baggins on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:38:45
I wonder if its worthwhile to offer only one type of linear switch so that we can get closer to that 20K price break? Basically meaning drop black and red and offer only blue, brown, and clear.
That's a pretty decent idea.
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:38:58
I wonder if its worthwhile to offer only one type of linear switch so that we can get closer to that 20K price break? Basically meaning drop black and red and offer only blue, brown, and clear.
But...I like the Blacks :(
Post by: Razor Lotus on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:46:04
Post by: margo baggins on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:48:06
Anyone knows how many is needed for a full sized keyboard?
104 ANSI, 105 ISO (some boards like ducky + 4 switches for above the numpad, and some boards like cougar attack + 13)
Post by: Fire Brand on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:50:56
Post by: MichaelBrock on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:55:27
Gaterons are PCB mount only, but they can be made into plate mount by clipping them!
What do you mean by clipping?
If you plate mount and the PCB doesn't have holes for the legs on the bottom of the switch housing you simply clip those two plastic legs off with a pair of cutters.
I don't want to belabor this question, but I always assumed that the the difference between "plate mount" and "pcb mount" was the legs on the bottom which are intended to key to the pcb and the presence of the little clips on the side which attach to the plate. The discussion now makes me think that both types of switches have the little clips. Is that true? It never occurred to me that the little legs on the bottom would need to get cut off in a plate mount since they really wouldn't be getting the in way (except I guess for vertical height?).
I'm in the process of planning for my first build and I had been on the fence between cherry browns & clears but this GB has me fairly convinced to buy the Gateron browns. I wish we had a little more feedback on how they compare to the cherry browns.
Michael
Post by: monotagary on Wed, 18 February 2015, 13:56:14
And since all of these will be international orders technically, please include a name
Ahhhh! Thanks for reminding! Resubmitting my form shortly.
Post by: strict on Wed, 18 February 2015, 14:06:21
I don't want to belabor this question, but I always assumed that the the difference between "plate mount" and "pcb mount" was the legs on the bottom which are intended to key to the pcb and the presence of the little clips on the side which attach to the plate. The discussion now makes me think that both types of switches have the little clips. Is that true? It never occurred to me that the little legs on the bottom would need to get cut off in a plate mount since they really wouldn't be getting the in way (except I guess for vertical height?).
I'm in the process of planning for my first build and I had been on the fence between cherry browns & clears but this GB has me fairly convinced to buy the Gateron browns. I wish we had a little more feedback on how they compare to the cherry browns.
Michael
Plate and PCB mount switches are identical in every way, including the tension clips on the sides of the housing, with the exception of the legs on the bottom that can be clipped off.
Post by: ccc24 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 14:07:46
And since all of these will be international orders technically, please include a name
Ahhhh! Thanks for reminding! Resubmitting my form shortly.
I didn't include a phone number, how do I go back to edit my form? Or should I submit another form?
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 14:09:48
Once I get back home I'll go through and pm everyone who needs more in their entry. But if you know you missed something you can PM the relevant infoAnd since all of these will be international orders technically, please include a name
Ahhhh! Thanks for reminding! Resubmitting my form shortly.
I didn't include a phone number, how do I go back to edit my form? Or should I submit another form?
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 18 February 2015, 14:11:52
Unless you want one of the linear gateron and don't plan to mod them.I wonder if its worthwhile to offer only one type of linear switch so that we can get closer to that 20K price break? Basically meaning drop black and red and offer only blue, brown, and clear.
That's a pretty decent idea.
And I think the price break is for the total of switches.
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 February 2015, 14:18:44
Post by: DrHubblePhD on Wed, 18 February 2015, 14:21:02
Yeah, I don't know why blacks would be dropped in favor of clears. Who the hell can type on 35g linears??
Super blacks or bust :p
Post by: Heliosphere on Wed, 18 February 2015, 14:21:46
And I think the price break is for the total of switches.
It was mentioned here by hwood:
is the reduced price point at 20k per switch or total amount of orders?20k for each switch
Post by: margo baggins on Wed, 18 February 2015, 14:21:55
I got loads of everything on my order form so I'm down for whatever :) :thumb:
Post by: strict on Wed, 18 February 2015, 14:25:34
clears look DOPE though, just stick different springs in :D
I got loads of everything on my order form so I'm down for whatever :) :thumb:
That was my thought. I bought clears purely for aesthetic reasons. I figured most people were going to spring swap, I can't imagine trying to type on 35g linears.
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 18 February 2015, 14:26:01
Oh I missed this post.And I think the price break is for the total of switches.
It was mentioned here by hwood:is the reduced price point at 20k per switch or total amount of orders?20k for each switch
Even if switches had to be dropped, Black should probably be the last one to drop. Best stock switch I had the opportunity to try.
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 18 February 2015, 14:32:37
That was my thought. I bought clears purely for aesthetic reasons. I figured most people were going to spring swap, I can't imagine trying to type on 35g linears.
Indeed. In fact, the thing I am most interested in is the housing. :p
Post by: inanis on Wed, 18 February 2015, 14:38:39
Post by: rainb1ood on Wed, 18 February 2015, 14:39:48
Post by: Sygaldry on Wed, 18 February 2015, 14:39:50
Yeah, I don't know why blacks would be dropped in favor of clears. Who the hell can type on 35g linears??But they're translucent-ish!
Aesthetics are almost as important as feels (even if the stems are hidden under the keycaps)
Post by: danwomansan on Wed, 18 February 2015, 14:42:43
Yeah, I don't know why blacks would be dropped in favor of clears. Who the hell can type on 35g linears??
I can
Post by: ccc24 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 14:48:24
Once I get back home I'll go through and pm everyone who needs more in their entry. But if you know you missed something you can PM the relevant infoAnd since all of these will be international orders technically, please include a name
Ahhhh! Thanks for reminding! Resubmitting my form shortly.
I didn't include a phone number, how do I go back to edit my form? Or should I submit another form?
sounds good, I sent a PM because I also had to change my order around
Post by: RavenII on Wed, 18 February 2015, 14:54:21
Post by: whentheclouds on Wed, 18 February 2015, 15:10:44
you should have a few extras as backups. zeal reported a ~4% failure rate (disclaimer: very small sample size) so it would be wise to have 4-5 extra switches for every 100 you plan to useAnyone knows how many is needed for a full sized keyboard?
104 ANSI, 105 ISO (some boards like ducky + 4 switches for above the numpad, and some boards like cougar attack + 13)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 18 February 2015, 15:17:03
you should have a few extras as backups. zeal reported a ~4% failure rate (disclaimer: very small sample size) so it would be wise to have 4-5 extra switches for every 100 you plan to useAnyone knows how many is needed for a full sized keyboard?
104 ANSI, 105 ISO (some boards like ducky + 4 switches for above the numpad, and some boards like cougar attack + 13)
Not really "failure" rate as they still actuate. Just lower than the rest of the switches with some still within spec of ±0.6mm.
Post by: Rotaku on Wed, 18 February 2015, 15:52:10
Post by: RavenII on Wed, 18 February 2015, 15:53:01
Post by: honoka on Wed, 18 February 2015, 15:53:56
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 18 February 2015, 15:58:54
Post by: Lpwl on Wed, 18 February 2015, 16:10:06
I would like to add a few more switches but right now I can't do it without bothering hwood by PM.
Post by: mecano on Wed, 18 February 2015, 16:11:52
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 18 February 2015, 16:18:19
Post by: Nai_Calus on Wed, 18 February 2015, 16:56:57
That was my thought. I bought clears purely for aesthetic reasons. I figured most people were going to spring swap, I can't imagine trying to type on 35g linears.
I can, I've got a board with stock Gateron Clears. You know how people complain sometimes about typos and accidentally pressing switches on reds?
It's like that, but worse. XD I type heavy though, and I'm currently using a keyboard with stock MX clears and liking it.
I want to try the Gateron browns and I quite like the gateron blue I've got laying around so I'll probably put an order in later when I figure out WTF I'm doing.
Post by: ubermike on Wed, 18 February 2015, 17:10:35
Post by: shrapneL on Wed, 18 February 2015, 17:17:31
Post by: RavenII on Wed, 18 February 2015, 17:45:23
I hope I dig the Black switch, I'm looking for something slightly heavier than MX Red and lighter than MX Blacks.
Post by: JordanRinke on Wed, 18 February 2015, 18:29:35
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 18 February 2015, 18:31:50
Is there a Gateron switch that is equivalent to an MX clear? I signed up for 200 clears, but just read the Gateron clears are linear and not extra tactile like the MX clears.No, not at this moment.
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 February 2015, 18:36:19
the Gateron clears are linear and not extra tactile like the MX clears.
Just a hunch, but I think many people who are ordering Gateron clears are confused about this.
Post by: axlroach on Wed, 18 February 2015, 18:36:56
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Post by: Cottonsox on Wed, 18 February 2015, 18:43:24
the Gateron clears are linear and not extra tactile like the MX clears.
Just a hunch, but I think many people who are ordering Gateron clears are confused about this.
I think updating the form would make this a bit more transparent, just add weight / type.
Post by: JordanRinke on Wed, 18 February 2015, 18:46:35
the Gateron clears are linear and not extra tactile like the MX clears.
Just a hunch, but I think many people who are ordering Gateron clears are confused about this.
Yeah this is totally me, I already have 30g and 35g springs I rock, I saw the clears and was super excited to get a higher tactile to swap in ultra light springs on. A 35g linear is useless to me, would just make more sense to have reds or blacks to get the key count up and spring swap to whatever you wanted weight wise.
(Edit: I will still take the clears, for the transparent top/case - and just mix them with some regular cherry clears down the road, so don't change my order - unless there is a Gateron that is equiv to an MX Clear... that would be amazing)
Post by: Bromono on Wed, 18 February 2015, 18:52:02
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 18:52:53
hmmm I am thinking of getting the blues and doing the jailhouse mod to it...I actually tried that with a few. Kinda crazy, the actuation is immediate.
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 18:53:33
Post by: Hellcatz on Wed, 18 February 2015, 18:55:00
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 18 February 2015, 18:59:51
Just remember that the switches are being shipped out from Singapore, please include your phone number no matter where you are locatedCan we update the form? Or how do we go about this?
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:12:53
Just remember that the switches are being shipped out from Singapore, please include your phone number no matter where you are locatedCan we update the form? Or how do we go about this?
Doh +1 I didnt put in my phone number
Post by: daftendire on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:14:53
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:18:39
Just remember that the switches are being shipped out from Singapore, please include your phone number no matter where you are locatedCan we update the form? Or how do we go about this?
Doh +1 I didnt put in my phone number
Ugh, I already put in a second form but forgot to enter my phone number as wellJust pm me for edits :thumb:
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:19:46
That's what I'm planning on doing lol.hmmm I am thinking of getting the blues and doing the jailhouse mod to it...I actually tried that with a few. Kinda crazy, the actuation is immediate.
Anyone know if they stick with 35g springs?
See what I'm up to? :p
Post by: Phinominal on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:20:10
Another thing...are these coming in black housing or the milky white?
Anyone know the answer to this?
Post by: Evo_Spec on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:24:28
Another thing...are these coming in black housing or the milky white?
Anyone know the answer to this?
Milky white/clear
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:25:20
That's what I'm planning on doing lol.hmmm I am thinking of getting the blues and doing the jailhouse mod to it...I actually tried that with a few. Kinda crazy, the actuation is immediate.
Anyone know if they stick with 35g springs?
See what I'm up to? :p
Dunno how JH blues would react to 35g spring...but this video might be a good reference:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68789.0
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:29:40
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:31:56
Will there be yellow switches?nope, sorry. Though something tells me we couldn't hit the MOQ for super blacks :p
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:32:28
Yeah, trueWill there be yellow switches?nope, sorry. Though something tells me we couldn't hit the MOQ for super blacks :p
Post by: fattredd on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:50:36
Post by: Bromono on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:50:56
Post by: Evo_Spec on Wed, 18 February 2015, 19:52:43
The browns. Is the bump as gritty as mx browns? Or as nice as clears?
IIRC it's somewhere in between
Post by: Bromono on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:00:06
hmmm I am thinking of getting the blues and doing the jailhouse mod to it...I actually tried that with a few. Kinda crazy, the actuation is immediate.
Video plz!
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:17:17
lemme try and put something togetherhmmm I am thinking of getting the blues and doing the jailhouse mod to it...I actually tried that with a few. Kinda crazy, the actuation is immediate.
Video plz!
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:38:14
here ya go: https://vid.me/Uh8fhmmm I am thinking of getting the blues and doing the jailhouse mod to it...I actually tried that with a few. Kinda crazy, the actuation is immediate.
Video plz!
one on the left is regular, right is jailhouse
Post by: Cottonsox on Wed, 18 February 2015, 20:39:52
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 21:12:36
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 18 February 2015, 21:13:33
Um, so just to make things a bit easier, if at all possible I'd like to ask that people order in 10s. If you can't, no problem though
Yeap, that'll help me greatly. However, if you are going to order less than 10, you can still go ahead.
Just that for orders greater than 10, I'll prefer than you order in 10s.
I'll round the current orders which do not follow the guidelines up to the next 10.
Thanks!
Post by: clacktalk on Wed, 18 February 2015, 21:31:11
in for 100
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Wed, 18 February 2015, 21:41:39
and I totally forgot to put in my ph #
(http://replygif.net/i/639.gif)
Post by: ImBZppl on Wed, 18 February 2015, 22:10:56
aww shucks, I have to give these a try, might as well save on the cost - in for 330!
and I totally forgot to put in my ph #Show Image(http://replygif.net/i/639.gif)
I didn't see a section to provide ph#.
Do I need it?
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 18 February 2015, 22:13:29
aww shucks, I have to give these a try, might as well save on the cost - in for 330!
and I totally forgot to put in my ph #Show Image(http://replygif.net/i/639.gif)
I didn't see a section to provide ph#.
Do I need it?
Not really. But you can always PM hwood to add it in :thumb:
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Wed, 18 February 2015, 22:17:12
I didn't see a section to provide ph#.
Do I need it?
Fill out the form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1q0jLqEY5tFiEi8B-JnSWnMxG1LDsyeHWhABdvvpIGUY/viewform?usp=send_form)
This is a GB for Gateron Switches, those magical MX-compatible switches you've been hearing all about.
<SNIP>
Just remember that since the switches are being shipped out from Singapore, please include your phone number no matter where you are located.
</SNIP>
idk if there is anyway to alter the form but it might not hurt to add a specific field for phone #
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 18 February 2015, 22:31:12
I didn't see a section to provide ph#.
Do I need it?Fill out the form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1q0jLqEY5tFiEi8B-JnSWnMxG1LDsyeHWhABdvvpIGUY/viewform?usp=send_form)
This is a GB for Gateron Switches, those magical MX-compatible switches you've been hearing all about.
<SNIP>
Just remember that since the switches are being shipped out from Singapore, please include your phone number no matter where you are located.
</SNIP>
idk if there is anyway to alter the form but it might not hurt to add a specific field for phone #
Just add it when you are typing in the address field. A final line of Tel: 1234567890 is okay.
Post by: Owntrolf on Wed, 18 February 2015, 22:45:47
I only want like 3 blacks for my Numlock, scroll lock and caps lock key
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Wed, 18 February 2015, 22:52:35
I wonder how much shipping would cost :<
I only want like 3 blacks for my Numlock, scroll lock and caps lock key
Shipping will be around $7-8 worldwide no matter where since it's being shipped out of Singapore....There will be a $2 handling fee.
Post by: clacktalk on Wed, 18 February 2015, 22:55:49
I didn't see a section to provide ph#.
Do I need it?Fill out the form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1q0jLqEY5tFiEi8B-JnSWnMxG1LDsyeHWhABdvvpIGUY/viewform?usp=send_form)
This is a GB for Gateron Switches, those magical MX-compatible switches you've been hearing all about.
<SNIP>
Just remember that since the switches are being shipped out from Singapore, please include your phone number no matter where you are located.
</SNIP>
idk if there is anyway to alter the form but it might not hurt to add a specific field for phone #
Just add it when you are typing in the address field. A final line of Tel: 1234567890 is okay.
What should I do if I've already submitted my form and didn't put down my phone number : ' [
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Wed, 18 February 2015, 23:26:57
What should I do if I've already submitted my form and didn't put down my phone number : ' [Just shoot hwood34 a PM with your info and he'll take care of you :)
Post by: clacktalk on Thu, 19 February 2015, 00:21:04
What should I do if I've already submitted my form and didn't put down my phone number : ' [Just shoot hwood34 a PM with your info and he'll take care of you :)
oh man, I completely skipped over shadovved's response saying that a few posts above mine.
ty everybody for not overreacting bc i asked a stupid question. ty mythicalwagyu for the smiley face. this kind of peace of mind can't be bought. i love the universe.
also, pm heading your way hwood34
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Thu, 19 February 2015, 00:38:24
What should I do if I've already submitted my form and didn't put down my phone number : ' [Just shoot hwood34 a PM with your info and he'll take care of you :)
oh man, I completely skipped over shadovved's response saying that a few posts above mine.
ty everybody for not overreacting bc i asked a stupid question. ty mythicalwagyu for the smiley face. this kind of peace of mind can't be bought. i love the universe.
also, pm heading your way hwood34
<3 in, <3 out ^-^
Post by: ImBZppl on Thu, 19 February 2015, 02:05:37
I didn't see a section to provide ph#.
Do I need it?Fill out the form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1q0jLqEY5tFiEi8B-JnSWnMxG1LDsyeHWhABdvvpIGUY/viewform?usp=send_form)
This is a GB for Gateron Switches, those magical MX-compatible switches you've been hearing all about.
<SNIP>
Just remember that since the switches are being shipped out from Singapore, please include your phone number no matter where you are located.
</SNIP>
idk if there is anyway to alter the form but it might not hurt to add a specific field for phone #
Oh man, I should have read, sent pm. hope that fixes things and thanks for the GB.
Post by: animated on Thu, 19 February 2015, 02:32:47
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Thu, 19 February 2015, 04:23:44
I think that poor mx lock is trying to tell me that I might potentially mayve have a chance. lolThat's what I'm planning on doing lol.hmmm I am thinking of getting the blues and doing the jailhouse mod to it...I actually tried that with a few. Kinda crazy, the actuation is immediate.
Anyone know if they stick with 35g springs?
See what I'm up to? :p
Dunno how JH blues would react to 35g spring...but this video might be a good reference:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68789.0
Think I'll continue with my plans unless someone actually prove it fails and saves me some butthurt and disappointment.
Post by: SigLogical on Thu, 19 February 2015, 05:03:57
Post by: lalien on Thu, 19 February 2015, 05:56:38
+400 From me.
Post by: VanGhost on Thu, 19 February 2015, 09:23:38
Post by: honoka on Thu, 19 February 2015, 09:27:14
Sorry for a noob question, but should I have received a confirmation email?
Nope! You are good to go!
Post by: VanGhost on Thu, 19 February 2015, 09:31:45
So is there any way for me to know that my order when through successfully?Sorry for a noob question, but should I have received a confirmation email?
Nope! You are good to go!
Post by: honoka on Thu, 19 February 2015, 09:34:55
So is there any way for me to know that my order when through successfully?
None at all, just faith :)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 19 February 2015, 09:42:05
So is there any way for me to know that my order when through successfully?Sorry for a noob question, but should I have received a confirmation email?
Nope! You are good to go!
After you click Submit you get something saying Thanks or whatever. That's it. Livin on a Prayer!
Post by: eosph on Thu, 19 February 2015, 10:29:39
Post by: animated on Thu, 19 February 2015, 11:21:15
Post by: monotagary on Thu, 19 February 2015, 12:25:48
I'm still pretty new to this hobby. Regular cherry MX blacks are 80g and are Gateron blacks 50g or 60g? On MD its saying 50g but on the tear down its saying 60g for the Gateron blacks. Thanks! :)
Cherry MX Black actuates at 60g, bottom out around 80g.
Gateron Black actuates at 50g, and probably bottoms out around 65-70g
Post by: RavenII on Thu, 19 February 2015, 12:46:38
I'm still pretty new to this hobby. Regular cherry MX blacks are 80g and are Gateron blacks 50g or 60g? On MD its saying 50g but on the tear down its saying 60g for the Gateron blacks. Thanks! :)
Cherry MX Black actuates at 60g, bottom out around 80g.
Gateron Black actuates at 50g, and probably bottoms out around 65-70g
Thanks for this explanation. I was looking to find something slightly higher than Reds but lighter than Blacks (MX Variants)...Gateron Blacks are gonna be perfect.
Post by: Ngt on Thu, 19 February 2015, 13:08:09
So would it be a good idea to focus on one type of linears in order to reach the MOQ?
Gaterons are PCB mount only, but they can be made into plate mount by clipping them!
What do you mean by clipping?
If you plate mount and the PCB doesn't have holes for the legs on the bottom of the switch housing you simply clip those two plastic legs off with a pair of cutters.
I don't want to belabor this question, but I always assumed that the the difference between "plate mount" and "pcb mount" was the legs on the bottom which are intended to key to the pcb and the presence of the little clips on the side which attach to the plate. The discussion now makes me think that both types of switches have the little clips. Is that true? It never occurred to me that the little legs on the bottom would need to get cut off in a plate mount since they really wouldn't be getting the in way (except I guess for vertical height?).
I'm in the process of planning for my first build and I had been on the fence between cherry browns & clears but this GB has me fairly convinced to buy the Gateron browns. I wish we had a little more feedback on how they compare to the cherry browns.
Michael
If you want some more info about the browns, I wrote a little explanation on the thread of the interest check. It was linked in the OP but you can find here if you want: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68145.msg1639775#msg1639775 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68145.msg1639775#msg1639775)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 19 February 2015, 13:13:21
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 19 February 2015, 13:39:54
I may need to change from browns to blacks after reading that.
Get both, I got clears and browns, the only reason I chose clears over blacks is I plan to change the springs and I think clears look better. :thumb:
Edit: Wait, are Gateron clears not as smooth as Gateron blacks?
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:05:47
All the linears are smooth. I'll probably be writing a writeup soon on a bunch of switches that I picked up.I may need to change from browns to blacks after reading that.
Get both, I got clears and browns, the only reason I chose clears over blacks is I plan to change the springs and I think clears look better. :thumb:
Edit: Wait, are Gateron clears not as smooth as Gateron blacks?
Post by: 3Love on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:09:09
Post by: Willyc277 on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:10:21
BLACK: 1,395
CLEAR: 950
BROWN: 190
BLUE: 60
NO COLOR MENTIONED: 7,010
Post by: RavenII on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:36:49
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:38:38
Really? I'm the only one interested in blues?!
Cherry Blues already suck, I can't see how a switch with even greater hysteresis would be fun.
Post by: Willyc277 on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:45:49
Really? I'm the only one interested in blues?!
Cherry Blues already suck, I can't see how a switch with even greater hysteresis would be fun.
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z192/Def_Fit/GIF/fhfjgh_zps2ed9b6c7.gif) (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/Def_Fit/media/GIF/fhfjgh_zps2ed9b6c7.gif.html)
Post by: RavenII on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:48:11
1. Transaction fee (Currency conversion fee, bank/money transfer/paypal fees, etc?) from you (HWood) to the company?
2. Does that include the shipping fees from the factory to Shadovved?
Post by: Sygaldry on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:49:16
(http://gifsoup.com/view/388022/you-want-to-fight-me-a-s.gif)Really? I'm the only one interested in blues?!
Cherry Blues already suck, I can't see how a switch with even greater hysteresis would be fun.
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z192/Def_Fit/GIF/fhfjgh_zps2ed9b6c7.gif) (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/Def_Fit/media/GIF/fhfjgh_zps2ed9b6c7.gif.html)
Blues suck. Said it.
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:52:55
Really? I'm the only one interested in blues?!
Cherry Blues already suck, I can't see how a switch with even greater hysteresis would be fun.
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z192/Def_Fit/GIF/fhfjgh_zps2ed9b6c7.gif) (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/Def_Fit/media/GIF/fhfjgh_zps2ed9b6c7.gif.html)
(https://aqu52.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/gif-dont-fight-it.gif)
Of course, if you want to insist Blues are awesome and fight about it, it will end up going like this
(http://sivers.org/images/fightclub.gif)
Post by: TDub on Thu, 19 February 2015, 15:06:19
Post by: mecano on Thu, 19 February 2015, 16:23:06
nubbinator, i didn't imagine you with such claws :eek: this is quiet an amazing gif, reminds me the movie about this famous chimp which had his own cat.
Post by: mecano on Thu, 19 February 2015, 16:24:48
Post by: strict on Thu, 19 February 2015, 16:30:21
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 19 February 2015, 16:38:48
Decided to go in for 110 Browns. After feeling how awesome the linear clears are I'm anxious to see what their tactile switches are like.
What I hope my reaction will be after feeling the bump:
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrsxuhkbO31qk9furo1_250.gif)
What I expect my reaction to be like after feeling the bump:
(http://bubblear.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/boca.gif)
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 19 February 2015, 16:41:37
Decided to go in for 110 Browns. After feeling how awesome the linear clears are I'm anxious to see what their tactile switches are like.gaterons Browns aren't that great, maybe slightly better than their mx equivalent but not quite the tactility of a mx clear.
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 19 February 2015, 16:42:26
Post by: samsonite727 on Thu, 19 February 2015, 16:52:04
This looks awesome, I am planning on building a ergodox was wondering will this switches work with the ergodox? Sorry might be a noob question but just want to make sure.
Thanks
Post by: hking0036 on Thu, 19 February 2015, 17:01:51
Hey hwood34They're MX compatible so they will. I think the ergo is plate mounted though if I'm not mistaken, you you'll have to clip the pins on the bottom of the switches, as I think they only come PCB-mount.
This looks awesome, I am planning on building a ergodox was wondering will this switches work with the ergodox? Sorry might be a noob question but just want to make sure.
Thanks
Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 19 February 2015, 17:03:52
Hey hwood34They will in fact work with an ergodox, they have the same pin layout as MX switches.
This looks awesome, I am planning on building a ergodox was wondering will this switches work with the ergodox? Sorry might be a noob question but just want to make sure.
Thanks
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 19 February 2015, 17:04:38
Post by: samsonite727 on Thu, 19 February 2015, 17:49:05
Again im new to all this so I'm just hoping that I do not do any modifications to the gateron switches.
Post by: Bandit on Thu, 19 February 2015, 19:17:12
Post by: Ouro on Thu, 19 February 2015, 19:30:10
Post by: melkenshawn on Thu, 19 February 2015, 19:47:35
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 19 February 2015, 20:11:22
Post by: Willyc277 on Thu, 19 February 2015, 20:21:15
Post by: ImBZppl on Thu, 19 February 2015, 20:46:26
Well, thanks to help from the combined efforts GH, r/MK, and DT, the buy is more than halfway to the combined MOQ of 40,000 switches!
Awesome. But which ones have reached the 0.16 level? I really hope blues get there.
200 blues and 200 browns, That I am conflicted about since I do not know if I will like them more than clears.
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 19 February 2015, 20:49:30
Awesome news!! Still trying to decide which ones I'd like. Leaning towards blacks!
(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130312013032/random-ness/images/f/f0/Why_not_both.jpg)Well, thanks to help from the combined efforts GH, r/MK, and DT, the buy is more than halfway to the combined MOQ of 40,000 switches!
Awesome. But which ones have reached the 0.16 level? I really hope blues get there.
200 blues and 200 browns, That I am conflicted about since I do not know if I will like them more than clears.
Post by: ImBZppl on Thu, 19 February 2015, 20:57:38
Awesome news!! Still trying to decide which ones I'd like. Leaning towards blacks!Well, thanks to help from the combined efforts GH, r/MK, and DT, the buy is more than halfway to the combined MOQ of 40,000 switches!
Awesome. But which ones have reached the 0.16 level? I really hope blues get there.
200 blues and 200 browns, That I am conflicted about since I do not know if I will like them more than clears.Show Image(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130312013032/random-ness/images/f/f0/Why_not_both.jpg)
Post by: samsonite727 on Thu, 19 February 2015, 20:59:49
I am leaning towards the black switches but is there anyway we can get a number on the amount of buys for each switches? I guess whichever is closer to the 20,000 units for the reduced price would make my decision easier.
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 19 February 2015, 21:17:18
Post by: phearboner on Thu, 19 February 2015, 21:21:55
Post by: samsonite727 on Thu, 19 February 2015, 22:13:32
Alright, current numbers have been posted
Cool thanks, only concern I have with clears is that it is even lighter than reds (currently have cherry reds).
Post by: Willyc277 on Thu, 19 February 2015, 22:20:34
Post by: Razor Lotus on Thu, 19 February 2015, 22:30:04
Post by: ideus on Thu, 19 February 2015, 22:41:49
Post by: drakezorcon on Fri, 20 February 2015, 00:03:32
Post by: ccc24 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 01:54:59
Post by: Phinominal on Fri, 20 February 2015, 02:00:54
Edit: God dammit- I just saw the edit in the OP. Go GO GO BLACKS!
Edit#2: **** it- just ordered 70 of each.
Post by: kakakowie on Fri, 20 February 2015, 04:40:03
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 06:33:26
Not a lot of love for the blacks.. :( thought it be at least 3rd. Don't the gateron blues have a "worse" hysteresis than mx blue?in fact they do
Post by: jacobolus on Fri, 20 February 2015, 06:57:00
Hope you’re not too upset about MassDrop also putting up a Gateron buy. I’ve been repeatedly telling them to do one for several months (also telling them to do Kaihua, Gaote, etc. buys), and urging them to offer Gateron/Kaihua options on their keyboard kits (Ergodox, etc.).
I don’t think their buy is at all related to this one, except insofar as the handful of recent reviews of Gateron switches on geekhack probably increased the number of people requesting that they offer some.
Anyway, mad props for everything you’re doing here. Organizing GBs is a massive amount of work, you guys are saints.
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 08:21:35
Hey hwood,Nah, it's fine. With the kind of numbers we're getting, it doesn't seem like theirs is really hurting this or anything. It would have been nice if they had let me know they were going to do something like this in advance, but, whatever.
Hope you’re not too upset about MassDrop also putting up a Gateron buy. I’ve been repeatedly telling them to do one for several months (also telling them to do Kaihua, Gaote, etc. buys), and urging them to offer Gateron/Kaihua options on their keyboard kits (Ergodox, etc.).
I don’t think their buy is at all related to this one, except insofar as the handful of recent reviews of Gateron switches on geekhack probably increased the number of people requesting that they offer some.
Anyway, mad props for everything you’re doing here. Organizing GBs is a massive amount of work, you guys are saints.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 20 February 2015, 08:23:45
Hey hwood,Nah, it's fine. With the kind of numbers we're getting, it doesn't seem like theirs is really hurting this or anything. It would have been nice if they had let me know they were going to do something like this in advance, but, whatever.
Hope you’re not too upset about MassDrop also putting up a Gateron buy. I’ve been repeatedly telling them to do one for several months (also telling them to do Kaihua, Gaote, etc. buys), and urging them to offer Gateron/Kaihua options on their keyboard kits (Ergodox, etc.).
I don’t think their buy is at all related to this one, except insofar as the handful of recent reviews of Gateron switches on geekhack probably increased the number of people requesting that they offer some.
Anyway, mad props for everything you’re doing here. Organizing GBs is a massive amount of work, you guys are saints.
The guys at MD do not appear to care much about GH, maybe they do about other keyboard communities.
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 20 February 2015, 08:28:05
Otherwise, I think sellers should order springs because we will need about 20k soon apparently.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 20 February 2015, 08:42:50
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 20 February 2015, 08:53:45
Post by: ideus on Fri, 20 February 2015, 08:55:42
Can confirm gateron clears are crazy smooth and cray light linears.
Already salivating. :))
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 20 February 2015, 09:03:46
Damn I really hope people are not getting confused and think that gateron clears are tactile.I was thinking about going for the blacks but as it is I might join the Clear train to get cheaper switches.
Otherwise, I think sellers should order springs because we will need about 20k soon apparently.
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 February 2015, 09:06:52
Damn I really hope people are not getting confused and think that gateron clears are tactile.I was thinking about going for the blacks but as it is I might join the Clear train to get cheaper switches.
Otherwise, I think sellers should order springs because we will need about 20k soon apparently.
But you will have to change the springs in the clear switches. The black ones you can use stock! :D
Post by: patrain on Fri, 20 February 2015, 09:16:09
Not a lot of love for the blacks.. :( thought it be at least 3rd. Don't the gateron blues have a "worse" hysteresis than mx blue?in fact they do
what do yo mean by worse? I have been seeing people say the blues are inconsistent, but clicky is what I want. are these up to snuff or better than MX blues with the higher activation point?
what about their reset point?
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 09:22:24
Well, the reset point is higher on the Gblues than MX bluesNot a lot of love for the blacks.. :( thought it be at least 3rd. Don't the gateron blues have a "worse" hysteresis than mx blue?in fact they do
what do yo mean by worse? I have been seeing people say the blues are inconsistent, but clicky is what I want. are these up to snuff or better than MX blues with the higher activation point?
what about their reset point?
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 20 February 2015, 09:25:55
God bless stock gateron blacks.Damn I really hope people are not getting confused and think that gateron clears are tactile.I was thinking about going for the blacks but as it is I might join the Clear train to get cheaper switches.
Otherwise, I think sellers should order springs because we will need about 20k soon apparently.
But you will have to change the springs in the clear switches. The black ones you can use stock! :D
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 February 2015, 09:26:50
God bless stock gateron blacks.Damn I really hope people are not getting confused and think that gateron clears are tactile.I was thinking about going for the blacks but as it is I might join the Clear train to get cheaper switches.
Otherwise, I think sellers should order springs because we will need about 20k soon apparently.
But you will have to change the springs in the clear switches. The black ones you can use stock! :D
That's what I'm saying! Blacks that I don't have to swap springs and lube?!?! Yes, please!!!!
Post by: Keyzus on Fri, 20 February 2015, 10:17:37
God bless stock gateron blacks.Damn I really hope people are not getting confused and think that gateron clears are tactile.I was thinking about going for the blacks but as it is I might join the Clear train to get cheaper switches.
Otherwise, I think sellers should order springs because we will need about 20k soon apparently.
But you will have to change the springs in the clear switches. The black ones you can use stock! :D
That's what I'm saying! Blacks that I don't have to swap springs and lube?!?! Yes, please!!!!
The Clears look better though with the matching stem and casing!
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 February 2015, 10:21:35
The Clears look better though with the matching stem and casing!
I don't think so, personally. I have some Gateron Clears on hand that I bought from Zeal, and I don't really like the lack of contrast between the stem and switch housing.
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Fri, 20 February 2015, 10:27:53
I just put in for both Clears & Blacks so I can decide later... thinking I want to use them in a Simply 60 so I'd want gold springs anyway (I'm gonna need a second job now to make it all happen :eek: :p)The Clears look better though with the matching stem and casing!
I don't think so, personally. I have some Gateron Clears on hand that I bought from Zeal, and I don't really like the lack of contrast between the stem and switch housing.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 20 February 2015, 10:29:15
The Clears look better though with the matching stem and casing!
I don't think so, personally. I have some Gateron Clears on hand that I bought from Zeal, and I don't really like the lack of contrast between the stem and switch housing.
I wish the switch housing tops and bottoms were the same color.
Post by: samsonite727 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 10:30:04
Post by: mashby on Fri, 20 February 2015, 10:44:52
That's what I'm saying! Blacks that I don't have to swap springs and lube?!?! Yes, please!!!!
What springs do you usually switch to with MX-Blacks JD?
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 February 2015, 10:59:30
That's what I'm saying! Blacks that I don't have to swap springs and lube?!?! Yes, please!!!!
What springs do you usually switch to with MX-Blacks JD?
Sprit's 65g gold springs. :)
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 11:24:50
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Fri, 20 February 2015, 11:33:57
Just a heads up for people, if you ordered reds, you might want to switch to something else. it's unlikely Gateron would take such a small order, and not many vendors are stocking them anymore. I'll check around vendor-wise though, and see if we can get something going that routeShould we just fill out the form again to overwrite a previous order?
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 11:37:00
Yeah, just make sure to pm me and let me know you didJust a heads up for people, if you ordered reds, you might want to switch to something else. it's unlikely Gateron would take such a small order, and not many vendors are stocking them anymore. I'll check around vendor-wise though, and see if we can get something going that routeShould we just fill out the form again to overwrite a previous order?
Post by: mashby on Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:28:26
That's what I'm saying! Blacks that I don't have to swap springs and lube?!?! Yes, please!!!!
What springs do you usually switch to with MX-Blacks JD?
Sprit's 65g gold springs. :)
Cherry MX-Black are 60g and the Gateron are 50g, seems like you're still going to have to swap springs -- unless I'm missing something (which I probably am).
Post by: Moralless on Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:37:19
That's what I'm saying! Blacks that I don't have to swap springs and lube?!?! Yes, please!!!!
What springs do you usually switch to with MX-Blacks JD?
Sprit's 65g gold springs. :)
Cherry MX-Black are 60g and the Gateron are 50g, seems like you're still going to have to swap springs -- unless I'm missing something (which I probably am).
I'm not entirely sure about this but IIRC sprit measured the weight of the springs at a different point such that 62g gold springs ~= mx red springs (which are weighted for 45g) and assuming that gateron used the same weighting system as cherry does, 65g gold springs would be close to the 50g springs used in stock gateron blacks.
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:49:26
Damn I really hope people are not getting confused and think that gateron clears are tactile.I was thinking about going for the blacks but as it is I might join the Clear train to get cheaper switches.
Otherwise, I think sellers should order springs because we will need about 20k soon apparently.
But you will have to change the springs in the clear switches. The black ones you can use stock! :D
Yeah that's right. But if you think of the money you win with the 20k markup. It is pretty the price you pay for the spring (excluding shipping fees) hence for the same price you get the stock spring + another set of spring ;). I hope I didn't get my calculation wrong.
I was thinking of doing some kind of variant weigh board like the Topre one. Putting Ergo Clears (or JailHouse blues) on the alpha and some low-weigh linears on the mods. Or full linear but still low weight on the mods.
Post by: phx on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:19:55
Gateron Clear: super light 30g linear
Gateron Red: slightly lighter and smoother version of MX red
Gateron Black: lighter version of MX black
Gateron Brown: slightly lighter and smoother version of MX brown
Gateron Blue: clickier version of MX blue
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:20:58
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:24:18
So I'm trying to summarize to myself about these switches, please correct me if I'm wrong.Gateron Black : Slightly lighter and Smoother version of MX Black
Gateron Clear: super light 30g linear
Gateron Red: slightly lighter and smoother version of MX red
Gateron Black: lighter version of MX black
Gateron Brown: slightly lighter and smoother version of MX brown
Gateron Blue: clickier version of MX blue
Post by: melkenshawn on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:27:12
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:28:24
Just wondering, why are there suddenly so many more people going for clears when its stated that its a little too light? Is everyone just going to change the springs in it? :confused:That and aesthetics or they are little b*tches with baby fingers ^-^
Post by: qwack on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:36:36
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:37:21
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:41:46
Clears started the hype.Not for me. ;)
Post by: strict on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:52:06
Just wondering, why are there suddenly so many more people going for clears when its stated that its a little too light? Is everyone just going to change the springs in it? :confused:That and aesthetics or they are little b*tches with baby fingers ^-^
Aesthetics was my reason. I have bags and bags of springs so the only deciding factor for me was appearance.
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:52:45
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 20 February 2015, 16:06:00
Post by: samsonite727 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 16:36:31
Damn I hesitate know. I think I'll just wait a bit and see which one comes on top.
20 days left for those blacks to hit 20k, might be a stretch but it can happen. I am gonna order 90 soon.
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 February 2015, 16:37:21
Damn I hesitate know. I think I'll just wait a bit and see which one comes on top.
20 days left for those blacks to hit 20k, might be a stretch but it can happen. I am gonna order 90 soon.
After I test the blacks I just got from taobao, I may be ordering 800 myself.
Post by: samsonite727 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 16:45:00
Damn I hesitate know. I think I'll just wait a bit and see which one comes on top.
20 days left for those blacks to hit 20k, might be a stretch but it can happen. I am gonna order 90 soon.
After I test the blacks I just got from taobao, I may be ordering 800 myself.
Nice! They that good? Was thinking of browns too but I am not hearing much about them other than they are similar to the mx browns. Surprised they are ahead of blacks in units ordered, since black switches are getting rave reviews.
Post by: mashby on Fri, 20 February 2015, 16:50:31
Damn I hesitate know. I think I'll just wait a bit and see which one comes on top.
20 days left for those blacks to hit 20k, might be a stretch but it can happen. I am gonna order 90 soon.
After I test the blacks I just got from taobao, I may be ordering 800 myself.
Dang it JD. I didn't need to read that. *begins tapping foot while waiting for results*
Post by: Glod on Fri, 20 February 2015, 17:03:30
i'll likely be putting in a order, i am still debating if i should or not, i already have a few hundred switches and hundreds of springs stockpiled for some of my un-built keyboards, if i bought a few hundred gateron switches that would pretty much imply i will be building even more keyboards than originally planned.
btw LOL your ****ing avatar hwood, so classy ;D
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 20 February 2015, 18:56:02
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 19:05:01
Oh yes you need. You gotta by some now ;)Damn I hesitate know. I think I'll just wait a bit and see which one comes on top.
20 days left for those blacks to hit 20k, might be a stretch but it can happen. I am gonna order 90 soon.
After I test the blacks I just got from taobao, I may be ordering 800 myself.
Dang it JD. I didn't need to read that. *begins tapping foot while waiting for results*
sounds like a good number to me ;DDamn I hesitate know. I think I'll just wait a bit and see which one comes on top.
20 days left for those blacks to hit 20k, might be a stretch but it can happen. I am gonna order 90 soon.
After I test the blacks I just got from taobao, I may be ordering 800 myself.
if i bought a few hundred gateron switches that would pretty much imply i will be building even more keyboards than originally planned.But who doesn't want more boards :p?
btw LOL your ****ing avatar hwood, so classy ;D
and I respect a man who gets it ^-^
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 19:08:05
I have some worn mx blacks from a broken G80-1000. If lubed, would they compare to Gateron blacks in terms of smoothness?yep, they'd be pretty much on par
Post by: Asininity on Fri, 20 February 2015, 22:05:42
If I increase my order is the best way just to edit my previous entry?
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 20 February 2015, 22:27:05
I started with 100 clears and 100 blues! If there's price drops I'll probably add more to the total.
If I increase my order is the best way just to edit my previous entry?
Yes, you can just edit it.
Post by: ImBZppl on Fri, 20 February 2015, 22:59:32
I started with 100 clears and 100 blues! If there's price drops I'll probably add more to the total.
If I increase my order is the best way just to edit my previous entry?
Yes, you can just edit it.
where can I edit the form?
Post by: Keyzus on Fri, 20 February 2015, 23:13:46
So can we use the springs commonly available, that were I believe intended for Cherry MX switches? Or should I order black switches as well to swap the springs from them?
Post by: evera on Sat, 21 February 2015, 00:13:32
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 21 February 2015, 00:25:27
In for a bunch! (~300 misc) I wonder if I'll like them over cherry switches -- at that price I kinda hope I do!There wouldn't be a reason not to AFAIK. They come smoother stock, so hopefully no scratchiness.
Post by: VanGhost on Sat, 21 February 2015, 00:30:54
Isn't that because they use softer plastic though? Could make it less durable?In for a bunch! (~300 misc) I wonder if I'll like them over cherry switches -- at that price I kinda hope I do!There wouldn't be a reason not to AFAIK. They come smoother stock, so hopefully no scratchiness.
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 21 February 2015, 00:34:51
I couldn't tell you, but what would make them less durable? I guess the amount of times they could slide up and down? And most of us probably don't use the same board enough times to hit at least 5 million strokes per each key.Isn't that because they use softer plastic though? Could make it less durable?In for a bunch! (~300 misc) I wonder if I'll like them over cherry switches -- at that price I kinda hope I do!There wouldn't be a reason not to AFAIK. They come smoother stock, so hopefully no scratchiness.
Post by: mic) on Sat, 21 February 2015, 04:24:38
Will the shipments be trackable all along the route?
I'm asking because the shipping method in the destination country depends on this, i.e. whether the receipient needs to sign off the arrival of the package, or if the mailman can just put it somewhere if it doesn't fit in the mailbox. The latter doesn't work well in a city flat with many tenants and often strangers having access to the mailboxes. I recently had problems with shippings from China, that's why I'm worried.
Post by: YongJK on Sat, 21 February 2015, 04:44:05
Post by: azhdar on Sat, 21 February 2015, 05:06:01
u will love emMan if you know where to source those lime green stickers, pls pm me.
Post by: hj-s on Sat, 21 February 2015, 05:28:42
Post by: phishy on Sat, 21 February 2015, 05:58:06
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 21 February 2015, 06:04:27
u will love em
Hey what is the board and plate you use for the board? It looks very nice and I wonder what it is.
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 21 February 2015, 06:06:36
Post by: Evo_Spec on Sat, 21 February 2015, 08:33:24
u will love emMan if you know where to source those lime green stickers, pls pm me.
+1 i are need dis!
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 21 February 2015, 09:02:52
Post by: samsonite727 on Sat, 21 February 2015, 10:28:21
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 21 February 2015, 10:38:09
Placing my order for 90 blacks, Also I am assuming CONUS is checked for those living in the USA?
Yes, CONtinental US. :D
Post by: billnye on Sat, 21 February 2015, 12:42:33
Post by: samsonite727 on Sat, 21 February 2015, 13:25:16
Post by: melkenshawn on Sat, 21 February 2015, 13:27:36
Post by: honoka on Sat, 21 February 2015, 14:52:03
do you guys understand that this gb can become a monster?!
I'll gladly order several hundres of these switches, but I'm torn. I get a bad feeling in my stomach for the amount of work you will have to put in to send these out.
Especially you Shadovved.
I salute your efforts and hope you will get into the GH hall of fame after this has completed.
At the very least you will be in mine.
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 21 February 2015, 14:55:20
Hwood, Shadovved,Appreciate it man ;D We'll find a way ;) Just as long as you order those hundreds of switches ;)
do you guys understand that this gb can become a monster?!
I'll gladly order several hundres of these switches, but I'm torn. I get a bad feeling in my stomach for the amount of work you will have to put in to send these out.
Especially you Shadovved.
I salute your efforts and hope you will get into the GH hall of fame after this has completed.
At the very least you will be in mine.
Post by: mashby on Sat, 21 February 2015, 16:55:31
Hwood, Shadovved,
do you guys understand that this gb can become a monster?!
I'll gladly order several hundres of these switches, but I'm torn. I get a bad feeling in my stomach for the amount of work you will have to put in to send these out.
Especially you Shadovved.
I salute your efforts and hope you will get into the GH hall of fame after this has completed.
At the very least you will be in mine.
For what it's worth, I worked with Shadovved on the GeekHack/Phantom Sticker group buy and I can vouch for his shipping ability. This GB might test his limits, but I think he's up to the challenge. :thumb:
Post by: Vintage on Sat, 21 February 2015, 17:14:12
Post by: ideus on Sat, 21 February 2015, 17:15:02
This is looking pretty awesome. Thanks Hwood and Shadovved!
They will won the GH Heroes medal.
Post by: Moralless on Sat, 21 February 2015, 17:20:37
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 21 February 2015, 19:13:19
u will love emMan if you know where to source those lime green stickers, pls pm me.
Yes, I need those switch stickers.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 21 February 2015, 19:17:25
Post by: azhdar on Sat, 21 February 2015, 19:18:10
Gateron's do not need stickers, based on early testers reports.
Stickers are mainly aestethic anyway.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 21 February 2015, 19:22:26
Taylor agrees.
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Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 21 February 2015, 19:23:48
Gateron's do not need stickers, based on early testers reports.
I needs them for the sexiness.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 21 February 2015, 19:28:40
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 21 February 2015, 21:33:02
Post by: azhdar on Sat, 21 February 2015, 21:34:11
So, based on feedback, we need to do a buy with switches, springs, tops, lube, and stickers. kAnd Candies !!
ps: I only spoke about stickers because I dig lime green.
Post by: Asininity on Sat, 21 February 2015, 22:07:40
So, based on feedback, we need to do a buy with switches, springs, tops, lube, and stickers. k
Yes, yes, yes. All of those would be great.
Are there 20,000 orders for any of the switches yet?
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 21 February 2015, 23:11:46
No, but clears, blues, and blacks are closeSo, based on feedback, we need to do a buy with switches, springs, tops, lube, and stickers. k
Yes, yes, yes. All of those would be great.
Are there 20,000 orders for any of the switches yet?
Post by: melkenshawn on Sun, 22 February 2015, 00:02:26
Post by: Hak Foo on Sun, 22 February 2015, 01:39:11
20,000 switches at 16 cents each = $3200 per colour.
At 24 cents per switch, we'll be spending the same amount at 13,333.33333.... switches.
Therefore, assuming equivalent shipping costs, and no intermediate price breaks, it makes sense to scale up any colours at 13,333 or more switches up to 20,000, even if it means giving everyone more switches than they ordered, or using the extras for a giveaway or raffle, or just dropping them from a great height and filming it for YouTube.
The media response would be hilarious: Traffic ground to a halt downtown today, as pranksters tossed thousands of tiny mechanical switches into a busy thoroughfare. Homeland Security has adjusted the Terror Alert Level to Gateron Black in response to the situation.
Post by: foopod on Sun, 22 February 2015, 02:56:09
Math time:
20,000 switches at 16 cents each = $3200 per colour.
At 24 cents per switch, we'll be spending the same amount at 13,333.33333.... switches.
Therefore, assuming equivalent shipping costs, and no intermediate price breaks, it makes sense to scale up any colours at 13,333 or more switches up to 20,000, even if it means giving everyone more switches than they ordered, or using the extras for a giveaway or raffle, or just dropping them from a great height and filming it for YouTube.
The media response would be hilarious: Traffic ground to a halt downtown today, as pranksters tossed thousands of tiny mechanical switches into a busy thoroughfare. Homeland Security has adjusted the Terror Alert Level to Gateron Black in response to the situation.
This is a good point, that we should probably be taking advantage of.
Post by: eosph on Sun, 22 February 2015, 08:29:13
Post by: ideus on Sun, 22 February 2015, 08:34:06
No, but clears, blues, and blacks are closeSo, based on feedback, we need to do a buy with switches, springs, tops, lube, and stickers. k
Yes, yes, yes. All of those would be great.
Are there 20,000 orders for any of the switches yet?
My colors.
Post by: Fire Brand on Sun, 22 February 2015, 08:45:54
Post by: awhitedev on Sun, 22 February 2015, 09:01:03
Post by: RavenII on Sun, 22 February 2015, 09:22:08
Post by: ideus on Sun, 22 February 2015, 09:33:53
Buy them with the assumption that you're paying .24 (which is still half the price of MX)...if they hit lowest, modify your order. But don't wait until that 20k threshold before ordering...you might miss out.
+1: At 24 cents you cannot get a better deal, getting them even cheaper would be a bonus.
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 22 February 2015, 09:38:39
ORDER MORE BLACK SWITCHES, PEOPLE!!
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 22 February 2015, 09:46:11
Yeah i think if we had a lube GB, that would be the icing on the cake for an already awesome GB.I'll have to think about that one, seems like there's some serious interest, but right now it seems like vendors can fulfill all the need right now
Math time:I like that math ;)
20,000 switches at 16 cents each = $3200 per colour.
At 24 cents per switch, we'll be spending the same amount at 13,333.33333.... switches.
Therefore, assuming equivalent shipping costs, and no intermediate price breaks, it makes sense to scale up any colours at 13,333 or more switches up to 20,000, even if it means giving everyone more switches than they ordered, or using the extras for a giveaway or raffle, or just dropping them from a great height and filming it for YouTube.
The media response would be hilarious: Traffic ground to a halt downtown today, as pranksters tossed thousands of tiny mechanical switches into a busy thoroughfare. Homeland Security has adjusted the Terror Alert Level to Gateron Black in response to the situation.
If browns don't make it will I be able to switch my order to clears? I need something for Nerd60 ;)They will, already past the 10k mark, but you always can change your order, just be sure to let me know
Out of interest is there a way I can increase my order say once clears have hit the target of 20k and add say Blacks, or should I just PM you :xYep, but like it's been said before, if you order the switches now you might be able to help hit the 20k quicker
What're the current numbers looking like for this GB. :cool:I'll update the OP
Buy them with the assumption that you're paying .24 (which is still half the price of MX)...if they hit lowest, modify your order. But don't wait until that 20k threshold before ordering...you might miss out.This cannot be said enough
We need to pump up the orders for blacks. If I'm going to be ordering 800 switches, it's a difference between $192 and $128.Everybody needs a little black in their life ;)
ORDER MORE BLACK SWITCHES, PEOPLE!!
Post by: ideus on Sun, 22 February 2015, 09:50:35
Drop brown and reds, and ask people to join blues, blacks and clears instead. This may take the three colors over 20k.
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 22 February 2015, 09:52:29
Proposal:Well, browns I couldn't really justify dropping. Reds on the other hand is always a possibility since those would have to end up being vendor bought anyway for around $0.30-0.35
Drop brown and reds, and ask people to join blues, blacks and clears instead. This may take the three colors over 20k.
Post by: RavenII on Sun, 22 February 2015, 09:56:12
Post by: Fire Brand on Sun, 22 February 2015, 09:58:35
Out of interest is there a way I can increase my order say once clears have hit the target of 20k and add say Blacks, or should I just PM you :xYep, but like it's been said before, if you order the switches now you might be able to help hit the 20k quicker
Thats what I shall do then, mostly use blacks anyway I'll pop an order in for 120 blacks then :)
Post by: inanis on Sun, 22 February 2015, 10:09:38
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 22 February 2015, 10:37:01
Also bumping up to 20K makes total sense to get the price down.
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 22 February 2015, 10:39:34
Didn't read everything but for what its worth everyone asking to expand the buy to include modding supplies etc take a long hard look at other group buys that kept growing and either failed completely or are stuck in limbo.Yeah, that's the one thing I'm afraid of. I'd rather get each thing done individually rather than try and juggle a bunch of things at once
Also bumping up to 20K makes total sense to get the price down.
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 22 February 2015, 10:44:24
Yeah it's probably a better idea, I think a lot of people already have their modding parts, and It's totally doable at the moment to source it elsewhere.Didn't read everything but for what its worth everyone asking to expand the buy to include modding supplies etc take a long hard look at other group buys that kept growing and either failed completely or are stuck in limbo.Yeah, that's the one thing I'm afraid of. I'd rather get each thing done individually rather than try and juggle a bunch of things at once
Also bumping up to 20K makes total sense to get the price down.
I just think vendors should stock them because a lot of peoples will be looking for lube and spring in a close future.
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 22 February 2015, 10:47:15
Yeah, that's the thing. I can see the need maybe for another spring buy, but vendors seem to be able to keep lube stocked for the most partYeah it's probably a better idea, I think a lot of people already have their modding parts, and It's totally doable at the moment to source it elsewhere.Didn't read everything but for what its worth everyone asking to expand the buy to include modding supplies etc take a long hard look at other group buys that kept growing and either failed completely or are stuck in limbo.Yeah, that's the one thing I'm afraid of. I'd rather get each thing done individually rather than try and juggle a bunch of things at once
Also bumping up to 20K makes total sense to get the price down.
I just think vendors should stock them because a lot of peoples will be looking for lube and spring in a close future.
Post by: snipars on Sun, 22 February 2015, 11:33:39
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 22 February 2015, 11:44:37
Is there any way for me to change my order? I think i'd rather swap my 100 clears and 100 reds for 200 blacksDone
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 22 February 2015, 12:00:43
Post by: ccc24 on Sun, 22 February 2015, 12:27:35
Post by: hermith on Sun, 22 February 2015, 12:28:54
Post by: snipars on Sun, 22 February 2015, 14:06:05
Is there any way for me to change my order? I think i'd rather swap my 100 clears and 100 reds for 200 blacksDone
thanks, sorry for the trouble
Post by: Findecanor on Sun, 22 February 2015, 14:06:49
Post by: ideus on Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:13:38
Proposal:Well, browns I couldn't really justify dropping. Reds on the other hand is always a possibility since those would have to end up being vendor bought anyway for around $0.30-0.35
Drop brown and reds, and ask people to join blues, blacks and clears instead. This may take the three colors over 20k.
To drop one color at least may help the other four to reach 20k easily, but I think that should be done soon.
Post by: XzisT on Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:51:48
Gots me 200 on blues. ;D
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sun, 22 February 2015, 16:27:03
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 22 February 2015, 16:36:13
So why is everyone ordering clears? They're basically unusable without a spring swap. And if you have to swap springs, why not just get Browns??
I like them for the aesthetics. My current setup is Clears for alphas and linears for modifiers. With Gateron clears I can use this setup and have both switch types in the same color, just have to put mx clears in the Gateron switch housing. ;D
Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 22 February 2015, 16:45:30
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 22 February 2015, 16:57:22
can you delete my first one? sorry for the trouble!
Post by: melkenshawn on Sun, 22 February 2015, 17:32:51
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 22 February 2015, 17:34:27
hold up hold up hold up. Why isn't there more interest in Browns? Isn't it essentially smoother ergo clears? Unless i'm reading the reviews wrongly.Hardly more tactile than mx browns.
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:04:27
no trouble :thumb:Is there any way for me to change my order? I think i'd rather swap my 100 clears and 100 reds for 200 blacksDone
thanks, sorry for the trouble
So the price point changes at 20k? And they are on a switch quota?Yep. I'm not sure what you mean by switch quota
The blacks with a comeback :cool:...I might have to order some moreYou certainly should ;)
this, pretty muchSo why is everyone ordering clears? They're basically unusable without a spring swap. And if you have to swap springs, why not just get Browns??
I like them for the aesthetics. My current setup is Clears for alphas and linears for modifiers. With Gateron clears I can use this setup and have both switch types in the same color, just have to put mx clears in the Gateron switch housing. ;D
Okay, just changed my order to 800 blacks, seeing as they will most likely hit the 0.16 price point. :Dmore people should follow this man's lead. The more switches the better!
assuming both switches are lubed and have the same spring weight, would there be much difference between black and clear?nope, they should be essentially the same
I updated my order!sure thing :thumb:
can you delete my first one? sorry for the trouble!
hold up hold up hold up. Why isn't there more interest in Browns? Isn't it essentially smoother ergo clears? Unless i'm reading the reviews wrongly.Very similar, yep
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:26:02
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:43:33
Post by: Vintage on Sun, 22 February 2015, 23:05:58
btw, the Clears are completely linear 30g switches, right?
Post by: ideus on Sun, 22 February 2015, 23:11:46
Red switches have been removed. Please adjust your order accordingly
and if everyone could upvote the r/mk post to get it visible: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2wtog3/buyinggateron_gb_red_switches_have_been_removed/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2wtog3/buyinggateron_gb_red_switches_have_been_removed/)
This GB is going to be an historic success. Discrete MX switches rock, and their Gatorade clones too. Prepare your irons pals.
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 22 February 2015, 23:13:06
wow! Doing great on the orders and my order is not even in yet! Sweet.35g
btw, the Clears are completely linear 30g switches, right?
Post by: hermith on Sun, 22 February 2015, 23:50:44
Quote
So the price point changes at 20k? And they are on a switch quota?Yep. I'm not sure what you mean by switch quota
Was supposed to write "on a per switch quota", as in if Clears hit 20k thef drop to 0.16, but if Browns don't they stay at 0.26?
Anyway I have changed my order, you can delete the first one I put in. :)
Post by: hj-s on Mon, 23 February 2015, 01:26:13
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 23 February 2015, 01:43:58
So i want to change my 30 reds to 40 blacks. Should i submit new order or just pm?
Both :)
Quote from: hwood34
For order changes, just submit another order and pm me to let me know.
Post by: TDub on Mon, 23 February 2015, 02:13:01
Post by: primered6 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 04:16:49
Now with 200 Blacks and 200 Browns.
Really want these :D
Post by: SpikeBolt on Mon, 23 February 2015, 04:51:04
Post by: db268 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 06:36:13
thank you
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 23 February 2015, 06:38:16
I'm new to this GB thing and I have a doubt: I don't really understand what order in 10s mean so, if I want to order 140 switches, should I fill the form with 14 or with 140?you enter 140 , easier for him to work with "decades" (is it correct english wording?) rather than deal with random numbers.
thank you
Post by: db268 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 06:53:46
you enter 140 , easier for him to work with "decades" (is it correct english wording?) rather than deal with random numbers.
Thank you.
Is it possible to cancel my order so I can make a new one?
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 23 February 2015, 07:06:12
you enter 140 , easier for him to work with "decades" (is it correct english wording?) rather than deal with random numbers.
Thank you.
Is it possible to cancel my order so I can make a new one?
Both :)
Quote from: hwood34
For order changes, just submit another order and pm me to let me know.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 23 February 2015, 07:09:18
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 23 February 2015, 07:14:35
19 hundred clears more to reach the first 20k mark, only.And we've done only 5/23 days of the opening of this group buy.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 23 February 2015, 07:17:50
19 hundred clears more to reach the first 20k mark, only.And we've done only 5/23 days of the opening of this group buy.
Now the democratization of MX switches has just begun. GH members will enjoy the freedom to try as many switch types as they want, all they need is a hot iron.
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 07:48:53
Post by: ideus on Mon, 23 February 2015, 07:54:01
Just a heads up, the fee has been adjusted to include freight shipping from Gateron to Shadovved which I somehow forgot about
It is perfectly fine, thank you for the heads up.
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 23 February 2015, 08:21:34
Just a heads up, the fee has been adjusted to include freight shipping from Gateron to Shadovved which I somehow forgot about
I don't remember how the OP was before but are you referring to the 3.5$ handling fees?
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 08:22:10
Yep, it was upped from $2 to $3.5Just a heads up, the fee has been adjusted to include freight shipping from Gateron to Shadovved which I somehow forgot about
I don't remember how the OP was before but are you referring to the 3.5$ handling fees?
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 08:22:31
Post by: Permeability on Mon, 23 February 2015, 08:22:38
Yep, it was $2 before, so $1.5 for freight costsJust a heads up, the fee has been adjusted to include freight shipping from Gateron to Shadovved which I somehow forgot about
I don't remember how the OP was before but are you referring to the 3.5$ handling fees?
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 23 February 2015, 08:26:15
Yep, it was upped from $2 to $3.5Just a heads up, the fee has been adjusted to include freight shipping from Gateron to Shadovved which I somehow forgot about
I don't remember how the OP was before but are you referring to the 3.5$ handling fees?
Yep, it was $2 before, so $1.5 for freight costsJust a heads up, the fee has been adjusted to include freight shipping from Gateron to Shadovved which I somehow forgot about
I don't remember how the OP was before but are you referring to the 3.5$ handling fees?
Alright thanks. It is perfectly fine anyway.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 23 February 2015, 08:26:33
Only 400 away from the 20k mark for clears!
I might double my order soon, the budget was there already so no reason for "savings".
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 08:31:11
Post by: VanGhost on Mon, 23 February 2015, 08:54:11
Yeah, we don't need no stinking savings!Only 400 away from the 20k mark for clears!
no reason for "savings".
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:15:55
I built my JD45 prototype with Gateron blacks this weekend. Sorry, no pics yet. The Gateron blacks are very smooth, with no gritty feeling like MX switches have when new and stock. The stiffness of the springs in the blacks feels like a 67-68g Korean spring. If you like linears, but want just a touch lighter than stock MX blacks, these are a great option to use stock, with NO LUBING OR SPRING SWAPPING REQUIRED.
Also, the PCB mount pins on the underside of the switch housing DO NOT REQUIRE MODIFICATION TO USE WITH PCB MOUNT HOLES IN A PCB. They require just a bit more force to install into the holes than a standard MX switch, but once you push them in, they are VERY SECURE. If you pull the switch out and re-seat it, it feels just like a stock MX switch with regard to tightness of the PCB mount pins. There are little "micro fins" on the PCB mount pins of the Gaterons which help secure the switch even more tightly than an MX switch the first time it is installed in a PCB. Once these are compressed and pulled out, they are basically at Cherry spec, so they should be the same as new stock MX switches.
I was skeptical at first, of using a "clone" switch in place of my trusty MX switches. But I am buying these with no hesitation to use in all my future builds. If I could afford to buy 5,000 of them at once, that's how many I would buy.
BUY THESE SWITCHES.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:20:47
Just a heads up for everyone. I don't know if this affects anyone's decision on whether or not to buy these switches.
I built my JD45 prototype with Gateron blacks this weekend. Sorry, no pics yet. The Gateron blacks are very smooth, with no gritty feeling like MX switches have when new and stock. The stiffness of the springs in the blacks feels like a 67-68g Korean spring. If you like linears, but want just a touch lighter than stock MX blacks, these are a great option to use stock, with NO LUBING OR SPRING SWAPPING REQUIRED.
Also, the PCB mount pins on the underside of the switch housing DO NOT REQUIRE MODIFICATION TO USE WITH PCB MOUNT HOLES IN A PCB. They require just a bit more force to install into the holes than a standard MX switch, but once you push them in, they are VERY SECURE. If you pull the switch out and re-seat it, it feels just like a stock MX switch with regard to tightness of the PCB mount pins. There are little "micro fins" on the PCB mount pins of the Gaterons which help secure the switch even more tightly than an MX switch the first time it is installed in a PCB. Once these are compressed and pulled out, they are basically at Cherry spec, so they should be the same as new stock MX switches.
I was skeptical at first, of using a "clone" switch in place of my trusty MX switches. But I am buying these with no hesitation to use in all my future builds. If I could afford to buy 5,000 of them at once, that's how many I would buy.
BUY THESE SWITCHES.
This is good to know.
Now I need to put cherry mx clear stems in my the gateron housings I have and see how they feel.
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:20:58
Just a heads up for everyone. I don't know if this affects anyone's decision on whether or not to buy these switches.Nice review! Added it to the OP :thumb:
I built my JD45 prototype with Gateron blacks this weekend. Sorry, no pics yet. The Gateron blacks are very smooth, with no gritty feeling like MX switches have when new and stock. The stiffness of the springs in the blacks feels like a 67-68g Korean spring. If you like linears, but want just a touch lighter than stock MX blacks, these are a great option to use stock, with NO LUBING OR SPRING SWAPPING REQUIRED.
Also, the PCB mount pins on the underside of the switch housing DO NOT REQUIRE MODIFICATION TO USE WITH PCB MOUNT HOLES IN A PCB. They require just a bit more force to install into the holes than a standard MX switch, but once you push them in, they are VERY SECURE. If you pull the switch out and re-seat it, it feels just like a stock MX switch with regard to tightness of the PCB mount pins. There are little "micro fins" on the PCB mount pins of the Gaterons which help secure the switch even more tightly than an MX switch the first time it is installed in a PCB. Once these are compressed and pulled out, they are basically at Cherry spec, so they should be the same as new stock MX switches.
I was skeptical at first, of using a "clone" switch in place of my trusty MX switches. But I am buying these with no hesitation to use in all my future builds. If I could afford to buy 5,000 of them at once, that's how many I would buy.
BUY THESE SWITCHES.
Post by: Fire Brand on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:33:48
Just a heads up for everyone. I don't know if this affects anyone's decision on whether or not to buy these switches.
I built my JD45 prototype with Gateron blacks this weekend. Sorry, no pics yet. The Gateron blacks are very smooth, with no gritty feeling like MX switches have when new and stock. The stiffness of the springs in the blacks feels like a 67-68g Korean spring. If you like linears, but want just a touch lighter than stock MX blacks, these are a great option to use stock, with NO LUBING OR SPRING SWAPPING REQUIRED.
Also, the PCB mount pins on the underside of the switch housing DO NOT REQUIRE MODIFICATION TO USE WITH PCB MOUNT HOLES IN A PCB. They require just a bit more force to install into the holes than a standard MX switch, but once you push them in, they are VERY SECURE. If you pull the switch out and re-seat it, it feels just like a stock MX switch with regard to tightness of the PCB mount pins. There are little "micro fins" on the PCB mount pins of the Gaterons which help secure the switch even more tightly than an MX switch the first time it is installed in a PCB. Once these are compressed and pulled out, they are basically at Cherry spec, so they should be the same as new stock MX switches.
I was skeptical at first, of using a "clone" switch in place of my trusty MX switches. But I am buying these with no hesitation to use in all my future builds. If I could afford to buy 5,000 of them at once, that's how many I would buy.
BUY THESE SWITCHES.
Can someone make a stick thing that says JD approved? c:
Post by: ideus on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:35:36
Just a heads up for everyone. I don't know if this affects anyone's decision on whether or not to buy these switches.
I built my JD45 prototype with Gateron blacks this weekend. Sorry, no pics yet. The Gateron blacks are very smooth, with no gritty feeling like MX switches have when new and stock. The stiffness of the springs in the blacks feels like a 67-68g Korean spring. If you like linears, but want just a touch lighter than stock MX blacks, these are a great option to use stock, with NO LUBING OR SPRING SWAPPING REQUIRED.
Also, the PCB mount pins on the underside of the switch housing DO NOT REQUIRE MODIFICATION TO USE WITH PCB MOUNT HOLES IN A PCB. They require just a bit more force to install into the holes than a standard MX switch, but once you push them in, they are VERY SECURE. If you pull the switch out and re-seat it, it feels just like a stock MX switch with regard to tightness of the PCB mount pins. There are little "micro fins" on the PCB mount pins of the Gaterons which help secure the switch even more tightly than an MX switch the first time it is installed in a PCB. Once these are compressed and pulled out, they are basically at Cherry spec, so they should be the same as new stock MX switches.
I was skeptical at first, of using a "clone" switch in place of my trusty MX switches. But I am buying these with no hesitation to use in all my future builds. If I could afford to buy 5,000 of them at once, that's how many I would buy.
BUY THESE SWITCHES.
This sounds like sourcing "old blacks".
Post by: billnye on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:35:42
Post by: Fire Brand on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:46:48
hwood do you offer any kind of warranty on these switches?
.-. Bill please, no trolling now
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:54:04
hwood do you offer any kind of warranty on these switches?Don't you trust based Tyrone?
Post by: billnye on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:55:18
I was honestly wondering if Gateron had any kind of warranty service in place.hwood do you offer any kind of warranty on these switches?
.-. Bill please, no trolling now
Post by: billnye on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:55:39
I don't trust Europeanshwood do you offer any kind of warranty on these switches?Don't you trust based Tyrone?
Post by: ideus on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:59:20
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:59:57
Cherry, GMK cough coughI don't trust Europeanshwood do you offer any kind of warranty on these switches?Don't you trust based Tyrone?
Post by: Fire Brand on Mon, 23 February 2015, 11:07:33
Cherry, GMK cough coughI don't trust Europeanshwood do you offer any kind of warranty on these switches?Don't you trust based Tyrone?
Ohhhhhh Snaaaaaaaaaap
Post by: jacobolus on Mon, 23 February 2015, 11:26:27
Warranty for a 24 cents per part discrete switch? Come on. Take some perspective pal.MX switches cost less than that when sold in bulk to keyboard OEMs. Unfortunately they have 12+ month lead times on new purchases at the moment.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 23 February 2015, 11:30:33
Warranty for a 24 cents per part discrete switch? Come on. Take some perspective pal.MX switches cost less than that when sold in bulk to keyboard OEMs. Unfortunately they have 12+ month lead times on new purchases at the moment.
Does that imply we can set a GB for them? or that applies to OEMs only? Even considering the one year lead time. Does them have warranty?
Post by: samsonite727 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 11:33:38
Just a heads up for everyone. I don't know if this affects anyone's decision on whether or not to buy these switches.
I built my JD45 prototype with Gateron blacks this weekend. Sorry, no pics yet. The Gateron blacks are very smooth, with no gritty feeling like MX switches have when new and stock. The stiffness of the springs in the blacks feels like a 67-68g Korean spring. If you like linears, but want just a touch lighter than stock MX blacks, these are a great option to use stock, with NO LUBING OR SPRING SWAPPING REQUIRED.
Also, the PCB mount pins on the underside of the switch housing DO NOT REQUIRE MODIFICATION TO USE WITH PCB MOUNT HOLES IN A PCB. They require just a bit more force to install into the holes than a standard MX switch, but once you push them in, they are VERY SECURE. If you pull the switch out and re-seat it, it feels just like a stock MX switch with regard to tightness of the PCB mount pins. There are little "micro fins" on the PCB mount pins of the Gaterons which help secure the switch even more tightly than an MX switch the first time it is installed in a PCB. Once these are compressed and pulled out, they are basically at Cherry spec, so they should be the same as new stock MX switches.
I was skeptical at first, of using a "clone" switch in place of my trusty MX switches. But I am buying these with no hesitation to use in all my future builds. If I could afford to buy 5,000 of them at once, that's how many I would buy.
BUY THESE SWITCHES.
thanks for the review, I was under the impression that blacks had default 50g springs. Am I to assume that Korean springs are measured differently?
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 23 February 2015, 11:37:29
thanks for the review, I was under the impression that blacks had default 50g springs. Am I to assume that Korean springs are measured differently?
You're welcome. :)
Korean springs are measured by the force required to bottom out the switch, not at the actuation point.
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 23 February 2015, 11:38:11
Just a heads up for everyone. I don't know if this affects anyone's decision on whether or not to buy these switches.
I built my JD45 prototype with Gateron blacks this weekend. Sorry, no pics yet. The Gateron blacks are very smooth, with no gritty feeling like MX switches have when new and stock. The stiffness of the springs in the blacks feels like a 67-68g Korean spring. If you like linears, but want just a touch lighter than stock MX blacks, these are a great option to use stock, with NO LUBING OR SPRING SWAPPING REQUIRED.
Also, the PCB mount pins on the underside of the switch housing DO NOT REQUIRE MODIFICATION TO USE WITH PCB MOUNT HOLES IN A PCB. They require just a bit more force to install into the holes than a standard MX switch, but once you push them in, they are VERY SECURE. If you pull the switch out and re-seat it, it feels just like a stock MX switch with regard to tightness of the PCB mount pins. There are little "micro fins" on the PCB mount pins of the Gaterons which help secure the switch even more tightly than an MX switch the first time it is installed in a PCB. Once these are compressed and pulled out, they are basically at Cherry spec, so they should be the same as new stock MX switches.
I was skeptical at first, of using a "clone" switch in place of my trusty MX switches. But I am buying these with no hesitation to use in all my future builds. If I could afford to buy 5,000 of them at once, that's how many I would buy.
BUY THESE SWITCHES.
Ah yes, that's the word I'm looking for -- "Micro fins". I guess it really depends on your PCB's PCB mount hole tolerances. Some may be wider than others. On the few I tested, it was possible to force in, but would require lots of effort so I was clipping one micro fin (there are 3 fins per PCB pin about as thin as a hair) on each outside to make it a snug fit.
Post by: whentheclouds on Mon, 23 February 2015, 11:39:37
thanks for the review, I was under the impression that blacks had default 50g springs. Am I to assume that Korean springs are measured differently?stock blue/brown/red MX springs are 60g on the Korean scale, and black MX springs are 80
Post by: samsonite727 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 11:53:05
Post by: RavenII on Mon, 23 February 2015, 11:54:07
Post by: VanGhost on Mon, 23 February 2015, 11:56:59
thanks for the replies, you guys are quick. How does a mixture of blacks and clears sound for my ergodox build? Blacks for the main alphabet keys and clears surrounding those key including the thump cluster keys. But enough black keys to cover the keyboard since clears seem to be bought for aesthetics. Decisions, decisions....I think typically people choose to use heavier keys for modifiers and their spacebar because usually when you go for those keys it is more deliberate and also having heavier keys would make pressing them on accident less likely. So for you I might switch it around so that you have clears for alphabet and blacks for spacebar/modifiers. Just my .02
Post by: samsonite727 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 12:07:27
thanks
Post by: RavenII on Mon, 23 February 2015, 12:11:02
thanks for the replies, you guys are quick. How does a mixture of blacks and clears sound for my ergodox build? Blacks for the main alphabet keys and clears surrounding those key including the thump cluster keys. But enough black keys to cover the keyboard since clears seem to be bought for aesthetics. Decisions, decisions....I think typically people choose to use heavier keys for modifiers and their spacebar because usually when you go for those keys it is more deliberate and also having heavier keys would make pressing them on accident less likely. So for you I might switch it around so that you have clears for alphabet and blacks for spacebar/modifiers. Just my .02
You know, I agree with you VG, but I've read alot of people have that opinion on layout. Heavier in the middle, lighter outsides. I personally swapped my mods for Clears, and kept my Red alphas, and love it...but I could see how some might want lighter mods because those fingers are usually pinky/ring...not as...strong? I dunno, all I know is that I'd do the heavier on the outside, lighter on the in.
Post by: qwack on Mon, 23 February 2015, 12:15:43
BUY THESE SWITCHES.(https://38.media.tumblr.com/90602955dec91944b053773da83e15cc/tumblr_mr8h27oUwu1stovwyo1_500.gif)
Will do.
Post by: johndavis730 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 12:16:42
come on people!
Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 23 February 2015, 13:06:42
I'm still trying to figure out if the Gat Browns are more like MX browns, or MX clears as far as tactility goes.
I am interested, too. Maybe they're an alternative to Ergo Clears. I've heard that Greetech Brown switches are more tactile than MX Browns. Can someone explain how the Gateron Browns feel?
Post by: swill on Mon, 23 February 2015, 13:15:32
Also interested.I'm still trying to figure out if the Gat Browns are more like MX browns, or MX clears as far as tactility goes.
I am interested, too. Maybe they're an alternative to Ergo Clears. I've heard that Greetech Brown switches are more tactile than MX Browns. Can someone explain how the Gateron Browns feel?
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 23 February 2015, 13:18:18
Post by: ROFLmonstar on Mon, 23 February 2015, 13:46:34
So even though I haven't replied to a few of the PMs I got recently, rest assured that every order has been updated
Great! I was worried for a second you were overwhelmed by the PMs and mine got lost or something.
Too bad the reds were dropped.
Post by: Vintage on Mon, 23 February 2015, 14:58:37
In my opinions Gaterons browns are almost equivalent to Cherries, but I didn't spend time on them, just a few clicks and I was like "yeah similar to cherry mx poop let's not waste time here"
LOL
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 23 February 2015, 15:01:15
Check the OP, some have written comparison (including me)Also interested.I'm still trying to figure out if the Gat Browns are more like MX browns, or MX clears as far as tactility goes.
I am interested, too. Maybe they're an alternative to Ergo Clears. I've heard that Greetech Brown switches are more tactile than MX Browns. Can someone explain how the Gateron Browns feel?
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Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 23 February 2015, 15:18:36
Check the OP, some have written comparison (including me)Also interested.I'm still trying to figure out if the Gat Browns are more like MX browns, or MX clears as far as tactility goes.
I am interested, too. Maybe they're an alternative to Ergo Clears. I've heard that Greetech Brown switches are more tactile than MX Browns. Can someone explain how the Gateron Browns feel?
I've read through your review but focused on Blacks and Clears, my mistake.
Quote from: Ngt
- MX Brown vs Gateron Brown: as the other comparison I made about gateron vs MX, it seems that the gateron has a bit more smoothness in them. This the time where I wish I had some clears on hand so I could compare with the Brown. I don't remember them. I tried clears a long time ago and my taste in keyboard wasn't so developed (it was new to me). I think I might like them again but I'm not sure. I feel that their tactility is about the same between this two browns and it is inferior to my Topre board. If I had to take an equivalent in MX for Topre, it wouldn't be Browns for sure.
Doesn't sound like they're particularly more tactile.
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 23 February 2015, 16:14:30
They seem a bit more tactile but still felt like they have some kind of sand in it that the plastic scratches against. Nonetheless keep in mind that it is purely subjective. I don't particularly enjoy them but you may.Check the OP, some have written comparison (including me)Also interested.I'm still trying to figure out if the Gat Browns are more like MX browns, or MX clears as far as tactility goes.
I am interested, too. Maybe they're an alternative to Ergo Clears. I've heard that Greetech Brown switches are more tactile than MX Browns. Can someone explain how the Gateron Browns feel?
I've read through your review but focused on Blacks and Clears, my mistake.Quote from: Ngt
- MX Brown vs Gateron Brown: as the other comparison I made about gateron vs MX, it seems that the gateron has a bit more smoothness in them. This the time where I wish I had some clears on hand so I could compare with the Brown. I don't remember them. I tried clears a long time ago and my taste in keyboard wasn't so developed (it was new to me). I think I might like them again but I'm not sure. I feel that their tactility is about the same between this two browns and it is inferior to my Topre board. If I had to take an equivalent in MX for Topre, it wouldn't be Browns for sure.
Doesn't sound like they're particularly more tactile.
Post by: abjr on Mon, 23 February 2015, 16:45:08
They require just a bit more force to install into the holes than a standard MX switch, but once you push them in, they are VERY SECURE.
That must be due to the maximum girth, eh? :)
Post by: Ripudio on Mon, 23 February 2015, 17:04:50
1) Was it 20k as in dollars for the total order? Or 20k switches, because apparently 20k switches was too easy :P
2) Is it cool to amend our orders once we get to the better price tier? I'd be find with spending the same $50 and get 50% more switches...
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 23 February 2015, 17:08:56
It's gotten to the point where there is too much for me to read through to make sure I'm not asking a question that's already been answered:
1) Was it 20k as in dollars for the total order? Or 20k switches, because apparently 20k switches was too easy :P
2) Is it cool to amend our orders once we get to the better price tier? I'd be find with spending the same $50 and get 50% more switches...
1) 20k switches for each color of switch
2) well no one can stop you from doing that, but if everyone does , we won't reach the numbers for sure. And if you look at the number in the OP we already almost reached it for 2/4 colors for only 5/23 days of sale.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 23 February 2015, 17:10:07
It's gotten to the point where there is too much for me to read through to make sure I'm not asking a question that's already been answered:
1) Was it 20k as in dollars for the total order? Or 20k switches, because apparently 20k switches was too easy :p
2) Is it cool to amend our orders once we get to the better price tier? I'd be find with spending the same $50 and get 50% more switches...
20k units will make the price per unit to drop to 16 cents per switch.
Post by: SpikeBolt on Mon, 23 February 2015, 17:14:28
So, a couple questions for someone who enjoys reds and has tried gateron clears/blacks:
1) Do you feel clears are too light?
2) Do you gateron blacks are significantly lighter than mx blacks? Would you say they are close to mx reds?
3) Which would you prefer: gateron clears or black?
Thanks in advance :P
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 23 February 2015, 17:19:08
I real all reviews but none of them satisfied my curiosity and I didn't find the answers I was looking for in this thread. I'm a MX reds user and wanted some gateron reds which unfortunately were dropped.1) yeah unusable stock
So, a couple questions for someone who enjoys reds and has tried gateron clears/blacks:
1) Do you feel clears are too light?
2) Do you gateron blacks are significantly lighter than mx blacks? Would you say they are close to mx reds?
3) Which would you prefer: gateron clears or black?
Thanks in advance :P
2) only slightly, stiffer than mx red. mx red are 45g gateron blacks 60g , mx black 65g .
3) blacks because almost perfect stock, clears if you will mod anyway and prefer the look.
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 17:27:19
:cool:
Post by: ideus on Mon, 23 February 2015, 17:28:22
Post by: awhitedev on Mon, 23 February 2015, 18:36:56
Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 23 February 2015, 18:44:11
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 23 February 2015, 18:45:49
I see a lot of people saying that clears are unusably light so why are the numbers so high for them? aesthetics?Yep!
Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 23 February 2015, 18:47:07
I see a lot of people saying that clears are unusably light so why are the numbers so high for them? aesthetics?Yep!
I suppose it makes sense as most of us would be opening them to lube them anyways so a spring swap isn't any more work.
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 23 February 2015, 18:48:45
I don't plan on lubing mine when I get them, I plan on swapping the springs in the blacks to the clears, that way they are blacks with a clear stem.I see a lot of people saying that clears are unusably light so why are the numbers so high for them? aesthetics?Yep!
I suppose it makes sense as most of us would be opening them to lube them anyways so a spring swap isn't any more work.
Post by: johndavis730 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 18:50:53
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AUNG2wy.png)
:cool:
NICE! Now we just need to get the blacks to 20k and I can put in my order! :thumb:
I wish I wasn't so low on funds so I can commit now...
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 18:52:33
we're close enough to blacks now that I'd just buy em up to 20k if need be, so order without fear :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AUNG2wy.png)
:cool:
NICE! Now we just need to get the blacks to 20k and I can put in my order! :thumb:
I wish I wasn't so low on funds so I can commit now...
Post by: johndavis730 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 19:02:00
we're close enough to blacks now that I'd just buy em up to 20k if need be, so order without fear :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AUNG2wy.png)
:cool:
NICE! Now we just need to get the blacks to 20k and I can put in my order! :thumb:
I wish I wasn't so low on funds so I can commit now...
STOP TWISTING MY ARM!! :p
Ohh okay fine you convinced me
edit: order placed :) 90 clears/90 blacks
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 23 February 2015, 19:20:01
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 19:20:34
:-*we're close enough to blacks now that I'd just buy em up to 20k if need be, so order without fear :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AUNG2wy.png)
:cool:
NICE! Now we just need to get the blacks to 20k and I can put in my order! :thumb:
I wish I wasn't so low on funds so I can commit now...
STOP TWISTING MY ARM!! :p
Ohh okay fine you convinced me
edit: order placed :) 90 clears/90 blacks
Post by: samsonite727 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 19:22:40
we're close enough to blacks now that I'd just buy em up to 20k if need be, so order without fear :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AUNG2wy.png)
:cool:
NICE! Now we just need to get the blacks to 20k and I can put in my order! :thumb:
I wish I wasn't so low on funds so I can commit now...
Awesome! Patiently waiting to get my hands on them. Now all that is left is to find a cheap set of ergodox keycaps.
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Mon, 23 February 2015, 20:12:30
we're close enough to blacks now that I'd just buy em up to 20k if need be, so order without fear :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AUNG2wy.png)
:cool:
NICE! Now we just need to get the blacks to 20k and I can put in my order! :thumb:
I wish I wasn't so low on funds so I can commit now...
Awesome! Patiently waiting to get my hands on them. Now all that is left is to find a cheap set of ergodox keycaps.
If you don't mind DSA blank keycaps, you can buy an Ergodox Base set + Modifier set at Pimp My Keyboard (http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/dsa-blank-sets-1). It'll cost you $47.
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Mon, 23 February 2015, 20:18:23
40k? 100k? Hahahahaha...
Post by: samsonite727 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 20:19:02
we're close enough to blacks now that I'd just buy em up to 20k if need be, so order without fear :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AUNG2wy.png)
:cool:
NICE! Now we just need to get the blacks to 20k and I can put in my order! :thumb:
I wish I wasn't so low on funds so I can commit now...
Awesome! Patiently waiting to get my hands on them. Now all that is left is to find a cheap set of ergodox keycaps.
If you don't mind DSA blank keycaps, you can buy an Ergodox Base set + Modifier set at Pimp My Keyboard (http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/dsa-blank-sets-1). It'll cost you $47.
Ya i looked into it; however, I live in Canada so with the Canadian dollar in a slump and shipping it comes to $71. Which I think is the cheapest I can find.
Post by: swill on Mon, 23 February 2015, 20:51:17
Post by: ideus on Mon, 23 February 2015, 21:29:29
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 21:31:05
Browns should double their orders to reach the 20k mark, doubtful.ya never now, I might have something up my sleeve ;)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 23 February 2015, 21:32:20
Browns should double their orders to reach the 20k mark, doubtful.ya never now, I might have something up my sleeve ;)
Ah! well, hidden cards are not suppose to be discovered.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 23 February 2015, 21:40:19
Browns should double their orders to reach the 20k mark, doubtful.
Still VERY early in this GB.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 23 February 2015, 21:42:18
Post by: swill on Mon, 23 February 2015, 21:51:39
Browns should double their orders to reach the 20k mark, doubtful.
Don't make me buy 1000 of them. :)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 23 February 2015, 21:53:19
Browns should double their orders to reach the 20k mark, doubtful.
Don't make me buy 1000 of them. :)
That's the spirit brother swill.
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 24 February 2015, 03:09:59
Do you the clear would be too light for mods? To make something like the Topre variant weight but for MX.
Post by: tbc on Tue, 24 February 2015, 03:17:42
Damn clear or black? Black or clear? The hesitation is high!
Do you the clear would be too light for mods? To make something like the Topre variant weight but for MX.
the topre variable has 45g mods.
clears are MUCH lighter
Post by: db268 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 04:22:00
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 24 February 2015, 04:28:11
Where will you guys be buying the PCB's for your builds? Any good shop in Europe?no european option that I'm aware of.
Here are a few option that doesn't need to go through a group buy :
http://winkeyless.kr/en/
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/
http://zealpc.net/collections/custom-keyboards/products/gb
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 24 February 2015, 04:40:42
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 24 February 2015, 04:46:09
Here are a few option that doesn't need to go through a group buy :
http://winkeyless.kr/en/
Wasn't aware of that. Looks interesting!
Post by: alex952 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 05:28:32
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 24 February 2015, 06:31:05
Welcome to GH as well.
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 06:48:37
Alright, so I finally decided to jump in. This will be my step to my first handmade board (also my first GB), so pretty excited about it.Certainly a good way to start :thumb:
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 24 February 2015, 07:30:47
Someone said that the actuation point of the blues is higher thant the cherry blues, so, will this mod still be possible?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45992.msg1648060#msg1648060
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 24 February 2015, 07:39:11
Are the clears really too light to be usable? How do they compare to cherry reds?clears: 35g compared to 45g mx red
Someone said that the actuation point of the blues is higher thant the cherry blues, so, will this mod still be possible?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45992.msg1648060#msg1648060
jailhouse gateron blues : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68943.120
Post by: ideus on Tue, 24 February 2015, 07:41:23
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 24 February 2015, 07:47:23
Are the clears really too light to be usable? How do they compare to cherry reds?clears: 35g compared to 45g mx red
Someone said that the actuation point of the blues is higher thant the cherry blues, so, will this mod still be possible?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45992.msg1648060#msg1648060
jailhouse gateron blues : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68943.120
I saw that they are 35g, I was just wondering if someone used them and they are really too light for intensive typing.
About the blues, thanks for pointing me to the post, they seem to work fine, and to be pretty silent on the upstroke too.
Post by: strict on Tue, 24 February 2015, 07:49:24
How do these feel with MX Clear springs? As in ghost blacks?
I tried Cherry clear springs in my Gateron clears and they felt incredible. If I'm honest they actually felt almost slightly too heavy, at least for linear switches. I ended up dropping down to the 78g sprit springs and now I'm confident that I've got my end-game linear switches.
Yes, Gateron clears are unusable with the stock springs in them. They are the lightest switches I've ever felt. A mouse fart or a stray butterfly could accidently activate one of those switches with the stock springs. I have a whole baggie of the stock springs that I'm pretty sure is going to go into the garbage because they are that light.
Post by: alex952 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 07:54:05
Pretty big step forward! :thumb:
Welcome to GH as well.
Cheers!
Alright, so I finally decided to jump in. This will be my step to my first handmade board (also my first GB), so pretty excited about it.Certainly a good way to start :thumb:
Really looking forward to it :)
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 24 February 2015, 08:43:12
Thanks for that mini-review. :thumb:How do these feel with MX Clear springs? As in ghost blacks?I tried Cherry clear springs in my Gateron clears and they felt incredible. If I'm honest they actually felt almost slightly too heavy, at least for linear switches. I ended up dropping down to the 78g sprit springs and now I'm confident that I've got my end-game linear switches.
Yes, Gateron clears are unusable with the stock springs in them. They are the lightest switches I've ever felt. A mouse fart or a stray butterfly could accidently activate one of those switches with the stock springs. I have a whole baggie of the stock springs that I'm pretty sure is going to go into the garbage because they are that light.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 24 February 2015, 08:58:47
How do these feel with MX Clear springs? As in ghost blacks?
I tried Cherry clear springs in my Gateron clears and they felt incredible. If I'm honest they actually felt almost slightly too heavy, at least for linear switches. I ended up dropping down to the 78g sprit springs and now I'm confident that I've got my end-game linear switches.
Yes, Gateron clears are unusable with the stock springs in them. They are the lightest switches I've ever felt. A mouse fart or a stray butterfly could accidently activate one of those switches with the stock springs. I have a whole baggie of the stock springs that I'm pretty sure is going to go into the garbage because they are that light.
The "mouse fart" remark is particularly informative, it gives a clear "feeling" of how light the switches are...:))
Post by: LXXXIX on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:15:45
Can anyone spit some knowledge on me? :)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:25:21
Is there a chance to source springs along with the switches? It would allow the brothers to mix and match them to their preferences. The lack of experience on actual performance of Gaterons turns this GB into an experiment, and having the springs may allow precise customization. Potentially making everybody happy, instead of frustrated.
:))
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:26:40
I'm thinking about making a purchase for about 100 Black switches to replace my MX Reds. Would this be a wiser move than to maybe just get some replacements springs? I have another board with MX Blacks and I may want to get something a littler heaver/smoother to mimic the feeling.
Can anyone spit some knowledge on me? :)
Gateron blacks are smoother than MX blacks or reds. They are heavier than reds, which is a good thing, IMO. They are slightly lighter than MX blacks, which again is a good thing. No spring swap or lubing required, which is a VERY good thing. :D
I RECOMMEND YOU BUY LOTS AND LOTS OF GATERON BLACKS.
I'm personally ordering 1000 of them, and no other Gateron switch (I've tried Gateron clears), if that tells you anything.
Post by: LXXXIX on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:34:18
Proposal: Add springs to the GB in modules ranging from 50 to 80.
Is there a chance to source springs along with the switches? It would allow the brothers to mix and match them to their preferences. The lack of experience on actual performance of Gaterons turns this GB into an experiment, and having the springs may allow precise customization. Potentially making everybody happy.
:))
This would be so legit. It would be a nice touch to be able to further modify certain modifiers and whatnot! :)
I'm thinking about making a purchase for about 100 Black switches to replace my MX Reds. Would this be a wiser move than to maybe just get some replacements springs? I have another board with MX Blacks and I may want to get something a littler heaver/smoother to mimic the feeling.
Can anyone spit some knowledge on me? :)
Gateron blacks are smoother than MX blacks or reds. They are heavier than reds, which is a good thing, IMO. They are slightly lighter than MX blacks, which again is a good thing. No spring swap or lubing required, which is a VERY good thing. :D
I RECOMMEND YOU BUY LOTS AND LOTS OF GATERON BLACKS.
I'm personally ordering 1000 of them, and no other Gateron switch (I've tried Gateron clears), if that tells you anything.
Thanks! I'll join this at the end of the week when I get paid. I'm looking forward to swapping them out. :D
Post by: swill on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:41:11
Proposal: Add springs to the GB in modules ranging from 50 to 80.
Is there a chance to source springs along with the switches? It would allow the brothers to mix and match them to their preferences. The lack of experience on actual performance of Gaterons turns this GB into an experiment, and having the springs may allow precise customization. Potentially making everybody happy, instead of frustrated.
:))
Lets not make this GB harder than it has to be. We don't want to get into issues with different delivery times and people wanting their orders because they don't want to wait for the other items to arrive, etc... It makes the logistics a lot more complicated. These guys are going to have enough work cut out for them just delivering the switches and the covers. Lets not let our excitement lead to scope creep which will make everything harder for everyone. Lets keep it as simple as possible because the scale we are working with here is getting pretty massive.
Post by: swill on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:44:34
I'm thinking about making a purchase for about 100 Black switches to replace my MX Reds. Would this be a wiser move than to maybe just get some replacements springs? I have another board with MX Blacks and I may want to get something a littler heaver/smoother to mimic the feeling.
Can anyone spit some knowledge on me? :)
Gateron blacks are smoother than MX blacks or reds. They are heavier than reds, which is a good thing, IMO. They are slightly lighter than MX blacks, which again is a good thing. No spring swap or lubing required, which is a VERY good thing. :D
I RECOMMEND YOU BUY LOTS AND LOTS OF GATERON BLACKS.
I'm personally ordering 1000 of them, and no other Gateron switch (I've tried Gateron clears), if that tells you anything.
Alright, I will bite. I just added 200 blacks to my order.
I am not sure I need 700 switches, but here goes nothing. :)
200x clears
200x blacks
300x browns (come on people, I need help on this one)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:45:27
Proposal: Add springs to the GB in modules ranging from 50 to 80.
Is there a chance to source springs along with the switches? It would allow the brothers to mix and match them to their preferences. The lack of experience on actual performance of Gaterons turns this GB into an experiment, and having the springs may allow precise customization. Potentially making everybody happy, instead of frustrated.
:))
Lets not make this GB harder than it has to be. We don't want to get into issues with different delivery times and people wanting their orders because they don't want to wait for the other items to arrive, etc... It makes the logistics a lot more complicated. These guys are going to have enough work cut out for them just delivering the switches and the covers. Lets not let our excitement lead to scope creep which will make everything harder for everyone. Lets keep it as simple as possible because the scale we are working with here is getting pretty massive.
^^ this, more group buys need to embrace k.i.s.s.
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:45:41
A Gatorade that I have has a faulty linear stem whereby there is a tiny bump on it.
I can feel a tiny change in resistance which is just big enough to be noticeable during normal use.
Although I can vouch that the switch is still smooth as **** aside from that.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:48:02
Proposal: Add springs to the GB in modules ranging from 50 to 80.
Is there a chance to source springs along with the switches? It would allow the brothers to mix and match them to their preferences. The lack of experience on actual performance of Gaterons turns this GB into an experiment, and having the springs may allow precise customization. Potentially making everybody happy, instead of frustrated.
:))
Lets not make this GB harder than it has to be. We don't want to get into issues with different delivery times and people wanting their orders because they don't want to wait for the other items to arrive, etc... It makes the logistics a lot more complicated. These guys are going to have enough work cut out for them just delivering the switches and the covers. Lets not let our excitement lead to scope creep which will make everything harder for everyone. Lets keep it as simple as possible because the scale we are working with here is getting pretty massive.
^^ this, more group buys need to embrace k.i.s.s.
Good point Sir Ray, another group for switches. Maybe the brothers with previous experience in springs.
Post by: johndavis730 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:52:48
Post by: ideus on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:55:58
Guys guys guys please stop! Stop convincing me to buy more switches!! I don't even know how to solder yet :D
It's your chance to learn bro.
This would be the group buy of the year, for dedicated keyboard aficionados only; those customizing their MX switches to the limit. :))
Post by: johndavis730 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:13:20
I know which is why it's making it difficult.Guys guys guys please stop! Stop convincing me to buy more switches!! I don't even know how to solder yet :D
It's your chance to learn bro.
This would be the group buy of the year, for dedicated keyboard aficionados only; those customizing their MX switches to the limit. :))
Now I am debating whether or not to cancel my 100 clears and get 200 blacks instead
or 200 black and 100 clears!?
AND I'm trying to save money :( sorry wallet
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:19:23
I know which is why it's making it difficult.Guys guys guys please stop! Stop convincing me to buy more switches!! I don't even know how to solder yet :D
It's your chance to learn bro.
This would be the group buy of the year, for dedicated keyboard aficionados only; those customizing their MX switches to the limit. :))
Now I am debating whether or not to cancel my 100 clears and get 200 blacks instead
or 200 black and 100 clears!?
AND I'm trying to save money :( sorry wallet
If you care about smooth feeling switches, order blacks.
If you don't mind swapping springs; AND if you leave the keycaps off your keyboards often, so that you can admire the switches, order a few clears. ;)
Post by: johndavis730 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:25:29
I know which is why it's making it difficult.Guys guys guys please stop! Stop convincing me to buy more switches!! I don't even know how to solder yet :D
It's your chance to learn bro.
This would be the group buy of the year, for dedicated keyboard aficionados only; those customizing their MX switches to the limit. :))
Now I am debating whether or not to cancel my 100 clears and get 200 blacks instead
or 200 black and 100 clears!?
AND I'm trying to save money :( sorry wallet
If you care about smooth feeling switches, order blacks.
If you don't mind swapping springs; AND if you leave the keycaps off your keyboards often, so that you can admire the switches, order a few clears. ;)
yeah that's what I may end up doing. I don't think I'm ready to do the whole spring swapping thing yet so I may order like 20 clears but mostly blacks and maybe blues if it reaches 20k
Post by: samsonite727 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:47:28
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:56:35
All this talk of clears being unusable with stock springs is dis-concerning, it sounds like they are ALOT lighter than the cherry reds.
They are. You don't want clears unless you are prepared to spring swap.
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:58:43
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:59:32
jd, if lubed blacks score 100/100 points in the smooth department, how much does unlubed blacks get?
Unlubed MX blacks? Like 65/100. Unlubed Gateron blacks are 90/100. :)
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:03:29
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:05:51
90/100 sounds amazing.. not sure if i should shell out the extra cash to go the distance
I'll tell you one thing for sure. Once you go Gateron, you'll never go back (to MX linears).
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:06:33
90/100 sounds amazing.. not sure if i should shell out the extra cash to go the distance
I'll tell you one thing for sure. Once you go Gateron, you'll never go back (to MX linears).
^ Truth
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:18:29
Post by: swill on Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:20:40
oh i'm 100% on board with Gaterons. was just thinking aloud whether i should spend $30-$45 on lube to squeeze out that last 10% performance increase. law of diminishing returns and all that
If you don't we will be coming by to relieve you of your "keyboard enthusiast" card. :) Isn't the whole point of this community to go big or go home? Oh, and don't forget your wallet. :P
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:20:46
oh i'm 100% on board with Gaterons. was just thinking aloud whether i should spend $30-$45 on lube to squeeze out that last 10% performance increase. law of diminishing returns and all that
At first, I was just going to spring swap my gaterons. But after switching out 20ish, I thought why the hell not, and just opened them all and lubed the sliders & springs. Lubed Gaterons are a whole 'nother world of smoothness if done right.
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:25:31
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:30:09
Post by: ideus on Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:32:37
In other words, you can use the Gateron blacks stock, and they will feel almost like 68g (Korean) lubed MX blacks. Or you can lube them, and they will feel like lubed vintage blacks. :)
Wow! Go blacks!
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:55:27
Post by: joey on Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:56:21
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:59:59
Will the OP be updated with numbers soon? :)
I hope so because black will be up to 20K or over!
Post by: samsonite727 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 13:02:46
Just 100 blacks please.
I already pm'd hdwood do I have to refill the order form again?
EDIT: Read the first page, PM is all that is needed.
Post by: strict on Tue, 24 February 2015, 13:05:24
All this talk of clears being unusable with stock springs is dis-concerning, it sounds like they are ALOT lighter than the cherry reds.
They are. You don't want clears unless you are prepared to spring swap.
+1 ... I like Cherry Reds and typed on them for 7 months straight, but the springs in Gateron Clears are noticeably lighter than Reds. Basically to the point of being unusably light.
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 24 February 2015, 13:08:57
Will the OP be updated with numbers soon? :)
I hope so because black will be up to 20K or over!
You upped it past 20k.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 24 February 2015, 13:09:36
Will the OP be updated with numbers soon? :)
I hope so because black will be up to 20K or over!
You upped it to 20k.
I tried!
Post by: VanGhost on Tue, 24 February 2015, 15:14:09
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 24 February 2015, 15:27:51
I'm going to be using 78g Korean springs on Stricts recommendation. What would be a good lube to complete the ultimate linear?
Krytox.
If you buy it premixed, you want thin.
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 24 February 2015, 15:33:59
I'm going to be using 78g Korean springs on Stricts recommendation. What would be a good lube to complete the ultimate linear?
Krytox.
If you buy it premixed, you want thin.
What about the red lube sold by EK? I'm asking because I have it so I wonder what it is worth.
EDIT: https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2 (https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 24 February 2015, 15:40:40
I'm going to be using 78g Korean springs on Stricts recommendation. What would be a good lube to complete the ultimate linear?
Krytox.
If you buy it premixed, you want thin.
What about the red lube sold by EK? I'm asking because I have it so I wonder what it is worth.
EDIT: https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2 (https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2)
NOTHING BUT KRYTOX.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 24 February 2015, 15:42:11
I'm going to be using 78g Korean springs on Stricts recommendation. What would be a good lube to complete the ultimate linear?
Krytox.
If you buy it premixed, you want thin.
What about the red lube sold by EK? I'm asking because I have it so I wonder what it is worth.
EDIT: https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2 (https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2)
NOTHING BUT KRYTOX.
But superlube is ok right jd?
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 24 February 2015, 15:42:40
I'm going to be using 78g Korean springs on Stricts recommendation. What would be a good lube to complete the ultimate linear?
Krytox.
If you buy it premixed, you want thin.
What about the red lube sold by EK? I'm asking because I have it so I wonder what it is worth.
EDIT: https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2 (https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2)
NOTHING BUT KRYTOX.
But superlube is ok right jd?
:llama:
Post by: VanGhost on Tue, 24 February 2015, 15:49:21
Is there a specific one that you could recommend? I thought that they evaporated after some time and left behind residue making the switch even stickier - any truth to that? Also could I use the same lube for the springs? I'm trying to protect my wallet!I'm going to be using 78g Korean springs on Stricts recommendation. What would be a good lube to complete the ultimate linear?
Krytox.
If you buy it premixed, you want thin.
What about the red lube sold by EK? I'm asking because I have it so I wonder what it is worth.
EDIT: https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2 (https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2)
NOTHING BUT KRYTOX.
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 24 February 2015, 15:53:37
Is there a specific one that you could recommend? I thought that they evaporated after some time and left behind residue making the switch even stickier - any truth to that? Also could I use the same lube for the springs? I'm trying to protect my wallet!
http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant
Sold out on geekhackers.org, and [CTRL]ALT store is down. But you can always PM BunnyLake to order, too.
Krytox doesn't evaporate, so you never need to reapply. You COULD use Krytox for springs, but it is expensive for that purpose. I recommend Victorinox Multi Tool Oil.
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 24 February 2015, 15:55:41
I'm going to be using 78g Korean springs on Stricts recommendation. What would be a good lube to complete the ultimate linear?
Krytox.
If you buy it premixed, you want thin.
What about the red lube sold by EK? I'm asking because I have it so I wonder what it is worth.
I tried it for Ergo Clears and it resulted in making the switch mushier, it is pretty thick. Maybe I used too much , but I feel like it's more for stabilizers than switches.
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 24 February 2015, 15:58:45
Is there a specific one that you could recommend? I thought that they evaporated after some time and left behind residue making the switch even stickier - any truth to that? Also could I use the same lube for the springs? I'm trying to protect my wallet!
http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant (http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant)
Sold out on geekhackers.org, and [CTRL]ALT store is down. But you can always PM BunnyLake to order, too.
Krytox doesn't evaporate, so you never need to reapply. You COULD use Krytox for springs, but it is expensive for that purpose. I recommend Victorinox Multi Tool Oil.
Damn I tried to find some Krytox lube when I was looking for some. I wasn't able to put my hands on some. I guess I didn't look well enough.
Considering the Mecklube 2, have you ever tried it and can speak from experience that it is not good enough? Or have you only tried Krytox, as you know it works well you recommend it?
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:05:41
Is there a specific one that you could recommend? I thought that they evaporated after some time and left behind residue making the switch even stickier - any truth to that? Also could I use the same lube for the springs? I'm trying to protect my wallet!
http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant (http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant)
Sold out on geekhackers.org, and [CTRL]ALT store is down. But you can always PM BunnyLake to order, too.
Krytox doesn't evaporate, so you never need to reapply. You COULD use Krytox for springs, but it is expensive for that purpose. I recommend Victorinox Multi Tool Oil.
Damn I tried to find some Krytox lube when I was looking for some. I wasn't able to put my hands on some. I guess I didn't look well enough.
Considering the Mecklube 2, have you ever tried it and can speak from experience that it is not good enough? Or have you only tried Krytox, as you know it works well you recommend it?
I haven't tried Mechlube 2, but I don't think anything can come close to Krytox. There was a post by mkawa that explains its properties. I'll see if I can find it.
Edit: here it is https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58312.0
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:08:35
updatedWill the OP be updated with numbers soon? :)
I hope so because black will be up to 20K or over!
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:15:20
Is there a specific one that you could recommend? I thought that they evaporated after some time and left behind residue making the switch even stickier - any truth to that? Also could I use the same lube for the springs? I'm trying to protect my wallet!
http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant (http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant)
Sold out on geekhackers.org, and [CTRL]ALT store is down. But you can always PM BunnyLake to order, too.
Krytox doesn't evaporate, so you never need to reapply. You COULD use Krytox for springs, but it is expensive for that purpose. I recommend Victorinox Multi Tool Oil.
Damn I tried to find some Krytox lube when I was looking for some. I wasn't able to put my hands on some. I guess I didn't look well enough.
Considering the Mecklube 2, have you ever tried it and can speak from experience that it is not good enough? Or have you only tried Krytox, as you know it works well you recommend it?
I haven't tried Mechlube 2, but I don't think anything can come close to Krytox. There was a post by mkawa that explains its properties. I'll see if I can find it.
Edit: here it is https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58312.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58312.0)
Damn that was informative but it was not the kind of explanation I thought it would be. Thanks for the link.
I feel like you cannot find Krytox in Europe. Last time I checked the only offer were from the US.
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:16:24
I feel like you cannot find Krytox in Europe. Last time I checked the only offer were from the US.
Send BunnyLake a PM. I believe he has some stock, even though his store is offline.
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:17:06
I feel like you cannot find Krytox in Europe. Last time I checked the only offer were from the US.
Send BunnyLake a PM. I believe he has some stock, even though his store is offline.
Alright I'll check that out. Thanks.
Post by: i3oilermaker on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:28:07
http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:32:15
TechKeys Ships to Europe and with free shipping on orders over $50
http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant (http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant)
Yeah JD posted it a few posts ago. I'm not sure I'll be ordering more than $50 so I'll be paying $9 for the delivery. I'll just go for the cheapest one I can find considering it is the same product.
Post by: VanGhost on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:45:36
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:46:55
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:48:05
I prefer using the yellow brush tip to place an even coating on the friction points.
Yellow brush tip?
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:49:16
http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/geekhackers-v2-lube-kitI prefer using the yellow brush tip to place an even coating on the friction points.
Yellow brush tip?
first time lubing, and I gotta say it's a great tool to manage a consitent lubing
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:51:26
http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/geekhackers-v2-lube-kit (http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/geekhackers-v2-lube-kit)I prefer using the yellow brush tip to place an even coating on the friction points.
Yellow brush tip?
first time lubing, and I gotta say it's a great tool to manage a consitent lubing
Thank you. Wouldn't a thin paint brush do the trick too?
(https://www.valmour.com/upload/redim/prezoom_a3a4d0e0939c7c285d08e0dcdcefd4c61163346083.jpg)
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:53:39
ofc why wouldn't it.http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/geekhackers-v2-lube-kit (http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/geekhackers-v2-lube-kit)I prefer using the yellow brush tip to place an even coating on the friction points.
Yellow brush tip?
first time lubing, and I gotta say it's a great tool to manage a consitent lubing
Thank you. Wouldn't a thin paint brush do the trick too?Show Image(https://www.valmour.com/upload/redim/prezoom_a3a4d0e0939c7c285d08e0dcdcefd4c61163346083.jpg)
Post by: swill on Tue, 24 February 2015, 17:11:58
http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/geekhackers-v2-lube-kit (http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/geekhackers-v2-lube-kit)I prefer using the yellow brush tip to place an even coating on the friction points.
Yellow brush tip?
first time lubing, and I gotta say it's a great tool to manage a consitent lubing
Thank you. Wouldn't a thin paint brush do the trick too?Show Image(https://www.valmour.com/upload/redim/prezoom_a3a4d0e0939c7c285d08e0dcdcefd4c61163346083.jpg)
Yes, I use a small nylon brush. Keep in mind that is actually pretty easy to over lube. If you put too much lube the switches will feel mushy for about a month or so. I use a paint brush and I paint on a SUPER thin layer. I am mixing my own Krytox lube (I have both oil and grease), so I had to play with it a bit before I got a mixture that I liked.
Post by: meow a cat on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:14:00
It is a REALLY smooth switch, as everyone has been saying. I'm definitely glad I joined this GB now that I've had a chance to sample one switch. :thumb:
It's like.. plastic butter.
Post by: TheCultOfKaos on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:14:33
Thanks a ton! Building my first keyboard for my birthday next month and was looking for a good deal. Got my waterjet class next friday so Im hoping to cut the plates these will go in soon too!
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:15:36
Just ordered 100 blues, 100 browns.If you haven't already, you should check out builder.swillkb.com for building your plate w/ a case.
Thanks a ton! Building my first keyboard for my birthday next month and was looking for a good deal. Got my waterjet class next friday so Im hoping to cut the plates these will go in soon too!
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:17:17
Just ordered 100 blues, 100 browns.If you haven't already, you should check out builder.swillkb.com for building your plate w/ a case.
Thanks a ton! Building my first keyboard for my birthday next month and was looking for a good deal. Got my waterjet class next friday so Im hoping to cut the plates these will go in soon too!
Wow, awesome tool! Didn't know it existed.
Post by: VanGhost on Tue, 24 February 2015, 19:09:25
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 24 February 2015, 19:15:57
Can anyone who is already using the switches comment on whether or not they ping the same way as MX?
Switches are not what causes ping. The case and plate materials and construction are what causes ping. MX switches can be used in a quality keyboard with zero ping. And I have an IBM keyboard with tee Alps that pings like crazy. Topre don't really ping, due to the nature of the slider mechanism in the plate. That's why they thock. :)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 24 February 2015, 19:39:41
So, today a package from Zeal arrived, and inside of it he included a lubed Gateron clear with a 62g spring. I de-soldered the Cherry escape switch off of my Phantom, and replaced it with the Gateron.
It is a REALLY smooth switch, as everyone has been saying. I'm definitely glad I joined this GB now that I've had a chance to sample one switch. :thumb:
It's like.. plastic butter.
:)
Post by: LXXXIX on Tue, 24 February 2015, 19:41:08
Can anyone who is already using the switches comment on whether or not they ping the same way as MX?
Switches are not what causes ping. The case and plate materials and construction are what causes ping. MX switches can be used in a quality keyboard with zero ping. And I have an IBM keyboard with tee Alps that pings like crazy. Topre don't really ping, due to the nature of the slider mechanism in the plate. That's why they thock. :)
In addition, I believe the material and thickness of keycaps also minimally contributes to "pinging." Correct me if I'm wrong please.
Post by: awhitedev on Tue, 24 February 2015, 20:44:44
Have you guys spoken to Gateron about these quantities? I'm sure they are more than happy to sell you this many switches... but how's their stock? Do they envision their being supply issues?
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 20:48:53
Looks like clears and blacks are now above 20k! Awesome! Sounds like this is a done deal then.The amounts we're getting right now are on the lower end of the spectrum of order size for Gateron. They can crank out a hell of a lot more than this is not a lot of time
Have you guys spoken to Gateron about these quantities? I'm sure they are more than happy to sell you this many switches... but how's their stock? Do they envision their being supply issues?
Post by: vindaon on Tue, 24 February 2015, 22:10:55
Post by: ideus on Tue, 24 February 2015, 22:14:13
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 22:14:13
Down for a 100 each clears and blacks. I was curious if it was possible that I could submit payment now, as they both seem to have hit the 20k mark and I like to have my affairs sorted ASAP.All invoices will be going out at the same time, sorry.
Post by: awhitedev on Tue, 24 February 2015, 22:15:52
Looks like clears and blacks are now above 20k! Awesome! Sounds like this is a done deal then.The amounts we're getting right now are on the lower end of the spectrum of order size for Gateron. They can crank out a hell of a lot more than this is not a lot of time
Have you guys spoken to Gateron about these quantities? I'm sure they are more than happy to sell you this many switches... but how's their stock? Do they envision their being supply issues?
Good to know! Thanks for clarifying.
Post by: vindaon on Tue, 24 February 2015, 22:16:29
Post by: alex952 on Wed, 25 February 2015, 02:42:00
Post by: Moralless on Wed, 25 February 2015, 02:48:14
Could someone advise on a place to get some springs for the clears? Also, what would be your choice of spring for these switches?
Here you go mate: http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/18k-gold-plated-springs-100pcs
Post by: Ngt on Wed, 25 February 2015, 03:10:27
http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/geekhackers-v2-lube-kit (http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/geekhackers-v2-lube-kit)I prefer using the yellow brush tip to place an even coating on the friction points.
Yellow brush tip?
first time lubing, and I gotta say it's a great tool to manage a consitent lubing
Thank you. Wouldn't a thin paint brush do the trick too?Show Image(https://www.valmour.com/upload/redim/prezoom_a3a4d0e0939c7c285d08e0dcdcefd4c61163346083.jpg)
Yes, I use a small nylon brush. Keep in mind that is actually pretty easy to over lube. If you put too much lube the switches will feel mushy for about a month or so. I use a paint brush and I paint on a SUPER thin layer. I am mixing my own Krytox lube (I have both oil and grease), so I had to play with it a bit before I got a mixture that I liked.
If you put too much of it, is it possible to wash it away? It seems that the Krytox doesn't evaporate so it means that if you put too much, it will still have to much of it no matter what. Or perhaps I'm missing something.
Can anyone who is already using the switches comment on whether or not they ping the same way as MX?
Switches are not what causes ping. The case and plate materials and construction are what causes ping. MX switches can be used in a quality keyboard with zero ping. And I have an IBM keyboard with tee Alps that pings like crazy. Topre don't really ping, due to the nature of the slider mechanism in the plate. That's why they thock. :)
What does "pinging" mean for a keyboard? Sorry for the stupid question but that's the first time I'm seeing this word used about keyboards.
Post by: jacobolus on Wed, 25 February 2015, 05:30:41
What does "pinging" mean for a keyboard? Sorry for the stupid question but that's the first time I'm seeing this word used about keyboards.Some keyboards are constructed in such a way that when you press a key down relatively hard (or just normally in the case of Model Fs), a metal plate somewhere ends up vibrating, resulting in a high-frequency sound. Most people don’t like this, but it’s usually possible to dampen the vibration of any metal plates by stuffing the case full of shelf liner, or on Model F keyboards putting a piece of “super floss” down the center of each spring.
Post by: alex952 on Wed, 25 February 2015, 05:47:29
Could someone advise on a place to get some springs for the clears? Also, what would be your choice of spring for these switches?
Here you go mate: http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/18k-gold-plated-springs-100pcs
Cheers dude! Just ordered some :cool:
Post by: Findecanor on Wed, 25 February 2015, 07:03:29
What does "pinging" mean for a keyboard?Ping = a residual ringing sound after a key has been struck. What causes it and how important it is has been almost continuously debated in several threads over several years.
All mechanical contact and movement in metal springs cause vibrations that are dampened and/or amplified in various ways by the different parts of the keyboard, depending on the materials and constructions. I think that keyboard feet/rubber pads on the underside and the desk surface can also be significant factors.
It is not just metal plates that ping. I have a keyboard with PCB-mounted vintage Cherry MX Black switches that pings very much but is otherwise very silent.
Ping can also vary with different users' typing styles and different keys could cause different amounts of ping.
Post by: Ngt on Wed, 25 February 2015, 07:26:55
What does "pinging" mean for a keyboard? Sorry for the stupid question but that's the first time I'm seeing this word used about keyboards.Some keyboards are constructed in such a way that when you press a key down relatively hard (or just normally in the case of Model Fs), a metal plate somewhere ends up vibrating, resulting in a high-frequency sound. Most people don’t like this, but it’s usually possible to dampen the vibration of any metal plates by stuffing the case full of shelf liner, or on Model F keyboards putting a piece of “super floss” down the center of each spring.
Edit: I'm sorry, I should have reloaded the page before posting...What does "pinging" mean for a keyboard?Ping = a residual ringing sound after a key has been struck. What causes it and how important it is has been almost continuously debated in several threads over several years.
All mechanical contact and movement in metal springs cause vibrations that are dampened and/or amplified in various ways by the different parts of the keyboard, depending on the materials and constructions. I think that keyboard feet/rubber pads on the underside and the desk surface can also be significant factors.
It is not just metal plates that ping. I have a keyboard with PCB-mounted vintage Cherry MX Black switches that pings very much but is otherwise very silent.
Ping can also vary with different users' typing styles and different keys could cause different amounts of ping.
Ok thanks guys for the explanation.
Post by: radish on Wed, 25 February 2015, 11:29:17
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 25 February 2015, 11:39:21
didnt expect this to go live for at least another month.neither did I...
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 25 February 2015, 11:54:49
Post by: RavenII on Wed, 25 February 2015, 11:57:36
Grr no reds now? :mad: That ruining my plans to make a variable force linear Gaterons.
Heavier in the middle, lighter as you go outside?...yeah, me too..it's unfortunate, but what can you do...no demand, no supply.
Post by: superbia on Wed, 25 February 2015, 13:51:59
I am also interested how many switches can we bring in the EU without paying the taxes for the switches?
Im only consirned i will be taxed much more then i paid the switches :eek:
Post by: BakaPhoenix on Wed, 25 February 2015, 13:56:51
Waiting till the 12th with my order (need to see the final handling fee :p )
I am also interested how many switches can we bring in the EU without paying the taxes for the switches?
Im only consirned i will be taxed much more then i paid the switches :eek:
Check what is the highest value you can import in your country without being taxed.
For example for me is 23 € that is around 160 with the 0,16 cent price
BTW buy more blues :D
Post by: superbia on Wed, 25 February 2015, 14:05:28
Waiting till the 12th with my order (need to see the final handling fee :p )
I am also interested how many switches can we bring in the EU without paying the taxes for the switches?
Im only consirned i will be taxed much more then i paid the switches :eek:
Check what is the highest value you can import in your country without being taxed.
For example for me is 23 € that is around 160 with the 0,16 cent price
BTW buy more blues :D
Still personel that works in the costums will xray the package, see a ton of switches (here the max value of import package would be like 45eur worth of switches - if sent as a gift(otherwise23eur)), and then they open the package, and if they dont think the price indicated on the label matches the content, they browse the web to find similar content...
And since that might happen i might get taxed for cherry mx individual price which would be turbo insane...
That said.. im thinking about ordering either just 100 blacks or going totally ham and getting a 1k or switches (asking the person that packs it to write on the label these are salvaged parts, writing 45eur price and highlighting its a gift.. and playing a risk game)
Post by: RavenII on Wed, 25 February 2015, 14:38:21
Post by: snipars on Wed, 25 February 2015, 14:46:28
Post by: superbia on Wed, 25 February 2015, 14:47:50
are these plate-mounted?
iirc pcb, but you can clip them to make them plate mounted
Post by: ccc24 on Wed, 25 February 2015, 14:51:16
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 25 February 2015, 14:51:38
are these plate-mounted?↓
Gaterons are PCB mount only, but they can be made into plate mount by clipping them!
Post by: superbia on Wed, 25 February 2015, 15:22:01
It's not really a risk, he's actually telling the truth, he's rewarding you with a gift for helping reach the 20K mark...you contributed to the group buy to help us in the US out, the outcome is that he gets to send a few out to those in the EU who helped as a reward.
Say what you want... but the .16 per switch pricetag is Sick
Also is there a limit how many switches can be shiped in one package?? And does handling fee multiply per package?
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 25 February 2015, 15:35:07
Grr no reds now? :mad: That ruining my plans to make a variable force linear Gaterons.Damn, that would be really cool. I'll see if I can round up some 45g switches and send em your way, I'd love to see a variable gate board ;D
Post by: Asininity on Wed, 25 February 2015, 16:32:06
Post by: ideus on Wed, 25 February 2015, 16:37:15
I wonder if Blues and Browns are going to hit the 20k mark.
Blues may, browns doubtful, but hwood has wrote something about a hidden card under his sleeve. Who knows.
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 25 February 2015, 16:40:20
I wonder if Blues and Browns are going to hit the 20k mark.
I don't know if the organizers want to handle it, but someone earlier calculated, that if you want more than 13,333 switches, it's cheaper to at least order 20k and both switches almost hit that target (also the group buy still has some time to run).
EDIT: typo
Post by: whentheclouds on Wed, 25 February 2015, 16:43:34
The amounts we're getting right now are on the lower end of the spectrum of order size for Gateroni'm curious as to who are ordering Gaterons en masse. probably the Chinese community, but it would be cool if some manufacturers plan on outfitting their next boards with gaterons
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 February 2015, 16:45:38
I wonder if Blues and Browns are going to hit the 20k mark.
I don't know if the organizers want to handle it, but someone earlier calculated, that I you want more than 13,333 switches, it's cheaper to at least order 20k and both switches almost hit that target (also the group buy still has some time to run).
Right. Any number between 13,333 and 20,000 the organizer would simply order 20,000, because it would cost the same, but people would still pay the higher price tier cost per switch, because the organizer still has to collect the money to pay for those 20,000 switches from the buyers. It doesn't affect the buyer until the 20k mark is reached with actual orders.
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 25 February 2015, 16:49:36
The amounts we're getting right now are on the lower end of the spectrum of order size for Gateroni'm curious as to who are ordering Gaterons en masse. probably the Chinese community, but it would be cool if some manufacturers plan on outfitting their next boards with gaterons
With 20k switches you could only make ~200 full-sized keyboards.
I also think many manufacturers will consider using other switches then Cherry MXs. It seems like they have trouble keeping up with the demand (I've heard 12 months lead time). Also, many of the competitor's switches are actually cheaper.
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 25 February 2015, 16:53:52
But it would be cheaper in the end if the excess switches are distributed between the buyers, wouldn't it. Though, it would be quite some organizational work.I wonder if Blues and Browns are going to hit the 20k mark.
I don't know if the organizers want to handle it, but someone earlier calculated, that I you want more than 13,333 switches, it's cheaper to at least order 20k and both switches almost hit that target (also the group buy still has some time to run).
Right. Any number between 13,333 and 20,000 the organizer would simply order 20,000, because it would cost the same, but people would still pay the higher price tier cost per switch, because the organizer still has to collect the money to pay for those 20,000 switches from the buyers. It doesn't affect the buyer until the 20k mark is reached with actual orders.
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 February 2015, 17:18:56
Yes, in theory you could get a few extra switches with your order. But in reality, I would never expect the GB organizer to fulfill orders that way.But it would be cheaper in the end if the excess switches are distributed between the buyers, wouldn't it. Though, it would be quite some organizational work.I wonder if Blues and Browns are going to hit the 20k mark.
I don't know if the organizers want to handle it, but someone earlier calculated, that I you want more than 13,333 switches, it's cheaper to at least order 20k and both switches almost hit that target (also the group buy still has some time to run).
Right. Any number between 13,333 and 20,000 the organizer would simply order 20,000, because it would cost the same, but people would still pay the higher price tier cost per switch, because the organizer still has to collect the money to pay for those 20,000 switches from the buyers. It doesn't affect the buyer until the 20k mark is reached with actual orders.
Post by: Asininity on Wed, 25 February 2015, 17:53:12
I wonder if Blues and Browns are going to hit the 20k mark.
Blues may, browns doubtful, but hwood has wrote something about a hidden card under his sleeve. Who knows.
I'll have to look back for his post.
Yes, in theory you could get a few extra switches with your order. But in reality, I would never expect the GB organizer to fulfill orders that way.But it would be cheaper in the end if the excess switches are distributed between the buyers, wouldn't it. Though, it would be quite some organizational work.I wonder if Blues and Browns are going to hit the 20k mark.
I don't know if the organizers want to handle it, but someone earlier calculated, that I you want more than 13,333 switches, it's cheaper to at least order 20k and both switches almost hit that target (also the group buy still has some time to run).
Right. Any number between 13,333 and 20,000 the organizer would simply order 20,000, because it would cost the same, but people would still pay the higher price tier cost per switch, because the organizer still has to collect the money to pay for those 20,000 switches from the buyers. It doesn't affect the buyer until the 20k mark is reached with actual orders.
There's a lot of potential switches that could be lost if it isn't taken advantage of. If for example browns have 13,333 orders hwood could either buy the 13,333 switches for 0.24c or buy 20,000 for 0.16c. Either way, the cost is the same. If he goes for option a. that's a loss of 6,667 switches. If blues and browns both remain between 13,333-20,000 orders that's a loss of at least 13,334 "free" switches.
I don't know what should be done with all those potential switches but it seems a shame to pass by on that opportunity. For example, the spare keys could be re-sold for .20c for those who missed out on the group buy. The profits could be used to help cover server costs for GH and a steak dinner for those running the group buy. Or a switch giveaway could be run. Who knows, but it is a opportunity that seems silly to let pass on by.
Post by: axlroach on Wed, 25 February 2015, 18:43:37
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 25 February 2015, 18:44:26
I like the idea of selling the excess "free" switches for .20 each and using the proceeds to help GH. And I fully support a nice dinner for the GB organizers :thumb:If browns don't hit 20k, that's probably what'll end up happening
Post by: Asininity on Wed, 25 February 2015, 18:54:25
I like the idea of selling the excess "free" switches for .20 each and using the proceeds to help GH. And I fully support a nice dinner for the GB organizers :thumb:If browns don't hit 20k, that's probably what'll end up happening
You have to take pictures of your steak dinner.
Post by: Fire Brand on Wed, 25 February 2015, 18:55:39
Now I just need a pcb for these >_> (Joke I'll just desolder my poker II again :c )
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 25 February 2015, 18:57:02
(http://media.tumblr.com/4f91863cef40f19b7ac6c192d46667dc/tumblr_mnge0aKDRd1s3rh4zo1_500.gif)I like the idea of selling the excess "free" switches for .20 each and using the proceeds to help GH. And I fully support a nice dinner for the GB organizers :thumb:If browns don't hit 20k, that's probably what'll end up happening
You have to take pictures of your steak dinner.
Post by: Asininity on Wed, 25 February 2015, 19:11:45
I like the idea of selling the excess "free" switches for .20 each and using the proceeds to help GH. And I fully support a nice dinner for the GB organizers :thumb:If browns don't hit 20k, that's probably what'll end up happening
You have to take pictures of your steak dinner.Show Image(http://media.tumblr.com/4f91863cef40f19b7ac6c192d46667dc/tumblr_mnge0aKDRd1s3rh4zo1_500.gif)
Oh my.
While we're at it if browns hit 13,333+ would the cost per switch go down to .16c?
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 February 2015, 19:28:51
Oh my.
While we're at it if browns hit 13,333+ would the cost per switch go down to .16c?
No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not how it works at all. Let me try to explain it more clearly.
Let's say hypothetically Blues were at 13,333 switches ordered. That's $3,200 collected for 13,333 switches at $0.24/ea.
For $3,200, hwood can order 20,000 switches (20,000 * $0.16). So hwood gets 20,000 switches - more than enough to fulfill the orders for 13,333.
But he can't SELL the 13,333 switches for $0.16/ea. That's only $2133.28. Not enough to order the 20,000 switches.
So, everyone saying he should sell the "extras" above 13,333 but less than 20,000 for $0.20/ea...are you okay with paying $0.24/ea, while the extras get sold for $0.20?
The only time the price drops to $0.16/ea FOR THE GB PARTICIPANTS is if, and only if, the switch orders total 20,000 for each type.
Post by: Asininity on Wed, 25 February 2015, 19:41:08
Oh my.
While we're at it if browns hit 13,333+ would the cost per switch go down to .16c?
No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not how it works at all. Let me try to explain it more clearly.
Let's say hypothetically Blues were at 13,333 switches ordered. That's $3,200 collected for 13,333 switches at $0.24/ea.
For $3,200, hwood can order 20,000 switches (20,000 * $0.16). So hwood gets 20,000 switches - more than enough to fulfill the orders for 13,333.
But he can't SELL the 13,333 switches for $0.16/ea. That's only $2133.28. Not enough to order the 20,000 switches.
So, everyone saying he should sell the "extras" above 13,333 but less than 20,000 for $0.20/ea...are you okay with paying $0.24/ea, while the extras get sold for $0.20?
The only time the price drops to $0.16/ea FOR THE GB PARTICIPANTS is if, and only if, the switch orders total 20,000 for each type.
Oops, you're right. I made a (obvious) mathematical error in my head.
Instead of charging .20c the charge could be 0.30c.
Post by: Ngt on Wed, 25 February 2015, 21:15:38
Grr no reds now? >:( That ruining my plans to make a variable force linear Gaterons.
Why not just buy enough linear gateron and then swap the spring with the force you want. You'll be able to make it, unless you want different stem color to know which one are which.
Post by: Paranoid on Thu, 26 February 2015, 02:42:13
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 26 February 2015, 03:02:23
220 clears and blacks! Too many good GBs going on lately!Haha, yeah... RIP wallet!
Post by: superbia on Thu, 26 February 2015, 04:12:24
I also think that after this GB there will be more feedback about the gaterons,
and i hope there will be a next GB soon enough :p :thumb:
Post by: ideus on Thu, 26 February 2015, 04:59:07
Ordered 150, just under the 22euros to avoid taxing (or atleast i hope i wont get taxed)...
I also think that after this GB there will be more feedback about the gaterons,
and i hope there will be a next GB soon enough :p :thumb:
People will get their stocks full, I do not see them needing more any time soon, no matter how good they are. Get what what it is needed now, otherwise, the chinese site that sell them would be the only non accessible from ConUS source, or maybe ZealPc but at difference price.
Post by: Ngt on Thu, 26 February 2015, 04:59:39
Ordered 150, just under the 22euros to avoid taxing (or atleast i hope i wont get taxed)...Where so you guys live? My import limit for not being taxed is 150€.
I also think that after this GB there will be more feedback about the gaterons,
and i hope there will be a next GB soon enough:thumb:
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Thu, 26 February 2015, 09:24:03
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 26 February 2015, 09:43:12
I'm sure that Shadovved can declare a lower value for the shipping. Every single keyboard related package I've gotten had lower values declared.Ordered 150, just under the 22euros to avoid taxing (or atleast i hope i wont get taxed)...Where so you guys live? My import limit for not being taxed is 150€.
I also think that after this GB there will be more feedback about the gaterons,
and i hope there will be a next GB soon enough
Post by: LXXXIX on Thu, 26 February 2015, 10:19:27
Post by: Ngt on Thu, 26 February 2015, 11:26:17
I'm sure that Shadovved can declare a lower value for the shipping. Every single keyboard related package I've gotten had lower values declared.Ordered 150, just under the 22euros to avoid taxing (or atleast i hope i wont get taxed)...Where so you guys live? My import limit for not being taxed is 150€.
I also think that after this GB there will be more feedback about the gaterons,
and i hope there will be a next GB soon enoughShow Image(https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji14.png):thumb:
So do I. But it also means that if you package get lost, you will be able to claim only the amount declared for that particular parcel hence I wouldn't do it if it is something really important for you or really expensive.
Post by: swill on Thu, 26 February 2015, 11:55:01
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 26 February 2015, 11:55:55
Grr no reds now? :mad: That ruining my plans to make a variable force linear Gaterons.Damn, that would be really cool. I'll see if I can round up some 45g switches and send em your way, I'd love to see a variable gate board ;D
That would be fantastic. I tried it before with Cherry MX but the force steps are not as ideal using grey, clear spring in black, black and red.
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 12:29:50
Come on people. We need some brown orders. Keep the dream alive...Trust me, we'll get there, one way or another ;)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 26 February 2015, 14:15:50
Post by: awhitedev on Thu, 26 February 2015, 14:16:31
Post by: inanis on Thu, 26 February 2015, 14:18:55
still fighting myself on putting in a order. i don't need more keyboards. but if these are now down to 16 cents a switch. somebody please give me a reason not to buy these.I tried, but I can not think of one. Everyone always needs more keyboards.
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 26 February 2015, 14:25:00
still fighting myself on putting in a order. i don't need more keyboards. but if these are now down to 16 cents a switch. somebody please give me a reason not to buy these.
You definitely need to order like 1000 blacks. You'll be swapping out the switches in all your current builds. :D
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 14:25:18
In for 300 blacks :) Canceling Massdrop order. :thumb:good man :thumb:
+1still fighting myself on putting in a order. i don't need more keyboards. but if these are now down to 16 cents a switch. somebody please give me a reason not to buy these.I tried, but I can not think of one. Everyone always needs more keyboards.
Post by: VanGhost on Thu, 26 February 2015, 14:30:18
Post by: Glod on Thu, 26 February 2015, 14:36:24
still fighting myself on putting in a order. i don't need more keyboards. but if these are now down to 16 cents a switch. somebody please give me a reason not to buy these.
You definitely need to order like 1000 blacks. You'll be swapping out the switches in all your current builds. :D
:P, im less of a linear fan these days, i was thinking actually of putting in a large order of gaterade blues :)
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 14:43:10
that would do as well, need to hit dat 20kstill fighting myself on putting in a order. i don't need more keyboards. but if these are now down to 16 cents a switch. somebody please give me a reason not to buy these.
You definitely need to order like 1000 blacks. You'll be swapping out the switches in all your current builds. :D
:P, im less of a linear fan these days, i was thinking actually of putting in a large order of gaterade blues :)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 26 February 2015, 15:03:25
still fighting myself on putting in a order. i don't need more keyboards. but if these are now down to 16 cents a switch. somebody please give me a reason not to buy these.
You definitely need to order like 1000 blacks. You'll be swapping out the switches in all your current builds. :D
:p , im less of a linear fan these days, i was thinking actually of putting in a large order of gaterade blues :)
Go for it!
Post by: superbia on Fri, 27 February 2015, 03:40:06
Ordered 150, just under the 22euros to avoid taxing (or atleast i hope i wont get taxed)...Where so you guys live? My import limit for not being taxed is 150€.
I also think that after this GB there will be more feedback about the gaterons,
and i hope there will be a next GB soon enough
Im from Croatia, and the other guy is from Italy.
We both seem to have 23 eur limit for non-gift packages and 45 eur limit for gift packages.
But imagine the guy at the costums opening the package, and seeing individiual cherry mx switch price on the digikey/mouser, and taxing my package based on that price... :eek: That is why im still condsidering about ordering more... But I dont know how the package labelling will look like, will it be labeled as a gift and will the true price be indicated. :rolleyes:
Also we are still allowed to change our orders (its not 12th yet)... :rolleyes:
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 27 February 2015, 03:46:33
You can change, send a new order and pm Hwood34 to cancel the first one.Ordered 150, just under the 22euros to avoid taxing (or atleast i hope i wont get taxed)...Where so you guys live? My import limit for not being taxed is 150€.
I also think that after this GB there will be more feedback about the gaterons,
and i hope there will be a next GB soon enough
Im from Croatia, and the other guy is from Italy.
We both seem to have 23 eur limit for non-gift packages and 45 eur limit for gift packages.
But imagine the guy at the costums opening the package, and seeing individiual cherry mx switch price on the digikey/mouser, and taxing my package based on that price... :eek: That is why im still condsidering about ordering more... But I dont know how the package labelling will look like, will it be labeled as a gift and will the true price be indicated. :rolleyes:
Also we are still allowed to change our orders (its not 12th yet)... :rolleyes:
Will probably be declared with false value.
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Fri, 27 February 2015, 03:49:47
I realized I never found out for a fact.
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 27 February 2015, 04:01:55
Do blues use gateron's 60g or 45g spring?60g
I realized I never found out for a fact.
Check the links in the Op guys.
Post by: superbia on Fri, 27 February 2015, 04:19:51
You can change, send a new order and pm Hwood34 to cancel the first one.Ordered 150, just under the 22euros to avoid taxing (or atleast i hope i wont get taxed)...Where so you guys live? My import limit for not being taxed is 150€.
I also think that after this GB there will be more feedback about the gaterons,
and i hope there will be a next GB soon enough
Im from Croatia, and the other guy is from Italy.
We both seem to have 23 eur limit for non-gift packages and 45 eur limit for gift packages.
But imagine the guy at the costums opening the package, and seeing individiual cherry mx switch price on the digikey/mouser, and taxing my package based on that price... :eek: That is why im still condsidering about ordering more... But I dont know how the package labelling will look like, will it be labeled as a gift and will the true price be indicated. :rolleyes:
Also we are still allowed to change our orders (its not 12th yet)... :rolleyes:
Will probably be declared with false value.
I am still waiting for more info/details/talk before i opt for more switches :rolleyes:
But it is nice to be able to change the order :thumb:
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 27 February 2015, 07:21:33
Huh? The form says 55g. hwood34?Do blues use gateron's 60g or 45g spring?60g
I realized I never found out for a fact.
Check the links in the Op guys.
You need to keep the concepts separate also. Cherry MX has pressure point 60g, actuation point 50g and bottoms out at 60g ... using the same spring as Cherry MX Red which has actuation point at 45g.
Cherry MX switches are usually measured by force at pressure point. Cherry MX springs measured by force at actuation point as if in a linear switch, and korean springs measured by bottom-out force.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 27 February 2015, 07:37:07
Post by: cmadrid on Fri, 27 February 2015, 09:27:52
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 27 February 2015, 09:32:12
Post by: cmadrid on Fri, 27 February 2015, 09:34:29
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 27 February 2015, 09:36:31
So what do I need to order to approximate MX clears? I guess combine parts from two types, but which ones?no gaterons replicate mx clears, gateron browns are barely different from their cherry counterpart.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 27 February 2015, 09:36:47
So what do I need to order to approximate MX clears? I guess combine parts from two types, but which ones?
I don't think your going to get an MX Clear experience from any gateron switch without putting an MX Clear stem into one, which is exactly what I plan to do. I've got some old/used/vintage/aged/whatever MX clear stem that need a new home anyway.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 27 February 2015, 09:42:58
Post by: ideus on Fri, 27 February 2015, 09:46:45
So what do I need to order to approximate MX clears? I guess combine parts from two types, but which ones?
I don't think your going to get an MX Clear experience from any gateron switch without putting an MX Clear stem into one, which is exactly what I plan to do. I've got some old/used/vintage/aged/whatever MX clear stem that need a new home anyway.
Do you have some of those stems you may want to part with?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 27 February 2015, 09:47:26
So what do I need to order to approximate MX clears? I guess combine parts from two types, but which ones?
I don't think your going to get an MX Clear experience from any gateron switch without putting an MX Clear stem into one, which is exactly what I plan to do. I've got some old/used/vintage/aged/whatever MX clear stem that need a new home anyway.
Do you have some of those stems you may want to part with?
Nope
Post by: ideus on Fri, 27 February 2015, 09:52:24
So what do I need to order to approximate MX clears? I guess combine parts from two types, but which ones?
I don't think your going to get an MX Clear experience from any gateron switch without putting an MX Clear stem into one, which is exactly what I plan to do. I've got some old/used/vintage/aged/whatever MX clear stem that need a new home anyway.
Do you have some of those stems you may want to part with?
Nope
Well, I had to ask, just in case. 8)
Post by: RavenII on Fri, 27 February 2015, 12:02:15
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 27 February 2015, 12:24:56
Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/)
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
That's not what I read on your link:
Quote
- Kailh Black is a bit smoother than MX Black
- Gateron Black is even smoother than the Kailh
- Noppoo Black is even "scratchier" than MX Black
Btw what aspects are you comparing the spring force or the feel?
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 27 February 2015, 12:27:45
Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/You misread that, The Gateron Blacks feel really smooth. Definitely better than MX Blacks.
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 27 February 2015, 12:28:52
I'm comparing feeling. Nickels can be found here (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xd0e0/keyboard_science_35_switches_tested/).Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/)
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
That's not what I read on your link:Quote
- Kailh Black is a bit smoother than MX Black
- Gateron Black is even smoother than the Kailh
- Noppoo Black is even "scratchier" than MX Black
Btw what aspects are you comparing the spring force or the feel?
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 27 February 2015, 12:35:11
I'm comparing feeling. Nickels can be found here (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xd0e0/keyboard_science_35_switches_tested/).Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/)
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
not what I read on your link:Quote
- Kailh Black is a bit smoother than MX Black
- Gateron Black is even smoother than the Kailh
- Noppoo Black is even "scratchier" than MX Black
Btw what aspects are you comparing the spring force or the feel?
I know you where comparing the feeling. My question was towards RavenII because he said they are the same but he didn't say based on what.
I'll look the nickels comparison. I have gateron switch tester with their MX counterparts and my gblack seems heavier than the mx black I have on it.
EDIT: are you using the korean method to weight down your switches? I guess raven was talking about the force of the gblack. Indeed they seem similar considering the force required to use them. I thought they were lighter in fact. I'll have to buy some more springs in that case.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 27 February 2015, 12:42:21
Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/You misread that, The Gateron Blacks feel really smooth. Definitely better than MX Blacks.
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
What are those little trays you have the switches in??
Post by: ideus on Fri, 27 February 2015, 13:01:15
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 27 February 2015, 13:10:28
Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/"First impressions: Gateron Blacks and Reds as well as Greetech Reds are super smooth."
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
Post by: RavenII on Fri, 27 February 2015, 13:17:39
I'm comparing feeling. Nickels can be found here (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xd0e0/keyboard_science_35_switches_tested/).Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/)
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
That's not what I read on your link:Quote
- Kailh Black is a bit smoother than MX Black
- Gateron Black is even smoother than the Kailh
- Noppoo Black is even "scratchier" than MX Black
Btw what aspects are you comparing the spring force or the feel?
Sorry, I should have clarified that...I meant that the...weight? see, that's where things take a turn for me...is it actuation weight? or bottom out? anyhow, I meant the weight, I've been looking for something a bit lighter than MX Blacks, but heavier than MX Reds...as it turns out, it seems as if I should have opted for the Gateron Reds...which now I wish were still a part of the GB...
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 27 February 2015, 13:20:17
FWIW, I put 65g Korean springs in MX blacks with lube, and they definitely feel lighter than stock MX blacks. I don't have nickels to prove it, but they sure FEEL lighter. And the Gateron blacks feel very similar to that.
Post by: MichaelBrock on Fri, 27 February 2015, 13:27:44
Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
According to this comparison the gateron browns are less tactile than the mx browns. I really want tactile and it is looking like I should probably hold out until I can get the MX clears at a reasonable price. End game board and all that. There was/is a Massdrop vote on keys that included a GB for cherry switches. I hope it comes to pass.
thanks for the link!
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 27 February 2015, 13:36:01
The trays came with the set.Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/You misread that, The Gateron Blacks feel really smooth. Definitely better than MX Blacks.
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
What are those little trays you have the switches in??
Post by: ideus on Fri, 27 February 2015, 13:37:19
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 27 February 2015, 13:37:55
Nickels on one single switch is not science. A better measurement would be the force curve, not simply the bottom out force.Yeah, I wish I had the tools to record some force graphs.
FWIW, I put 65g Korean springs in MX blacks with lube, and they definitely feel lighter than stock MX blacks. I don't have nickels to prove it, but they sure FEEL lighter. And the Gateron blacks feel very similar to that.
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 27 February 2015, 13:55:01
Nickels on one single switch is not science. A better measurement would be the force curve, not simply the bottom out force.
FWIW, I put 65g Korean springs in MX blacks with lube, and they definitely feel lighter than stock MX blacks. I don't have nickels to prove it, but they sure FEEL lighter. And the Gateron blacks feel very similar to that.
Well a 65g korean springs is lighter than a stock MX black spring, isn't it? Based on that thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0) and deskhtority wiki which says that MX black are 60cN at actuation point. So it would make sense that they feel lighter than the stock one.
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 27 February 2015, 13:57:01
deskhtority wiki which says that MX black are 60cN at actuation point
This is why I have a hard time understanding wlhlm's test that measured MX black at 65g bottom out. It really only takes 5g more force to bottom out the switch from actuation? It should be more like 15g.
Post by: RavenII on Fri, 27 February 2015, 14:14:55
Nickels on one single switch is not science. A better measurement would be the force curve, not simply the bottom out force.
FWIW, I put 65g Korean springs in MX blacks with lube, and they definitely feel lighter than stock MX blacks. I don't have nickels to prove it, but they sure FEEL lighter. And the Gateron blacks feel very similar to that.
Right, after thinking about it a bit longer, I realized that the "nickel test" doesn't mean much, if you really think about it, stock MX Clears don't take much to actuate, but RIGHT after the bump, they stiffen up...so yeah, Force Curve would be the more definitive approach....
deskhtority wiki which says that MX black are 60cN at actuation point
This is why I have a hard time understanding wlhlm's test that measured MX black at 65g bottom out. It really only takes 5g more force to bottom out the switch from actuation? It should be more like 15g.
More to the point...Massdrop has them listed at 50g...which would concur with your guess...
Yeah, I wish I had the tools to record some force graphs.
I was trying to come up with something using an arduino...so many ideas so little time...
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 27 February 2015, 14:15:35
Just to make it clear, I just compared the feeling. The measurements took someone else (wscarlton), who happened to post it at almost the same time.deskhtority wiki which says that MX black are 60cN at actuation point
This is why I have a hard time understanding wlhlm's test that measured MX black at 65g bottom out. It really only takes 5g more force to bottom out the switch from actuation? It should be more like 15g.
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Fri, 27 February 2015, 16:49:15
I have seen some say 55g.Huh? The form says 55g. hwood34?Do blues use gateron's 60g or 45g spring?60g
I realized I never found out for a fact.
Check the links in the Op guys.
You need to keep the concepts separate also. Cherry MX has pressure point 60g, actuation point 50g and bottoms out at 60g ... using the same spring as Cherry MX Red which has actuation point at 45g.
Cherry MX switches are usually measured by force at pressure point. Cherry MX springs measured by force at actuation point as if in a linear switch, and korean springs measured by bottom-out force.
I've also seen one review that says 75g bottom out, and 70g actuation.
These numbers don't even match the listed force of the individual springs that are on offer...
I still don't know how Gateron measures their springs either.
What are supposedly Gateron springs are listed like this: 35g, 40g, 45g, 60g, 62g, 67g, 80g, 150g.
I assume they actually use all of these springs in actual switches, so none of these are just made to be sold individually.
I'm probably wrong, but if that's the case, which ones actually go into which of their switches?
All I know for sure is 35g belongs to the clears.
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 27 February 2015, 16:53:26
Post by: ideus on Fri, 27 February 2015, 16:55:05
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 27 February 2015, 16:58:11
Does that mean that the statements about Ch. Clears not having a similar between Gs. is inaccurate?You mean similar weights? And yes, Gclears are substantially lighter than MX clears
Post by: crazystu on Fri, 27 February 2015, 17:12:12
Post by: strict on Fri, 27 February 2015, 17:19:27
Does that mean that the statements about Ch. Clears not having a similar between Gs. is inaccurate?You mean similar weights? And yes, Gclears are substantially lighter than MX clears
Emphasis on substantially
Post by: Fire Brand on Fri, 27 February 2015, 17:23:46
So can you tell me if they break easily or are they pretty solid? more like cherry tops :x
I'm sad now :c
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 27 February 2015, 18:03:11
Can someone try something for me and tell me how strong the tops are as I just hulked my clear tops open just now after just finishing to solder all the leds in :XThey're more flexible and less brittle than the Abostudio ones
So can you tell me if they break easily or are they pretty solid? more like cherry tops :x
I'm sad now :c
Post by: ideus on Fri, 27 February 2015, 18:13:47
Can someone try something for me and tell me how strong the tops are as I just hulked my clear tops open just now after just finishing to solder all the leds in :XThey're more flexible and less brittle than the Abostudio ones
So can you tell me if they break easily or are they pretty solid? more like cherry tops :x
I'm sad now :c
Somewhere it is stated they are made of different plastics, being Abo's the one with less tensile strength that makes them more fragile therefore they may brake under pressure while being removed.
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 27 February 2015, 18:14:19
Just to make it clear, I just compared the feeling. The measurements took someone else (wscarlton), who happened to post it at almost the same time.deskhtority wiki which says that MX black are 60cN at actuation point
This is why I have a hard time understanding wlhlm's test that measured MX black at 65g bottom out. It really only takes 5g more force to bottom out the switch from actuation? It should be more like 15g.
Ah okay, good to know. The format of reddit makes my head hurt.
Post by: RavenII on Fri, 27 February 2015, 19:34:56
Ah okay, good to know. The format of reddit makes my head hurt.
I wonder if it's because we're just used to forums?...(I too can't make sense of it)...when does a new post arrive, where does it end up, top or bottom...what if it gets filtered...etc...it really is confusing. I wonder if it's because I'm 31, and a younger generation makes better sense of it? I dunno....anyhow, back to topic.
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 27 February 2015, 21:15:02
Ah okay, good to know. The format of reddit makes my head hurt.
I wonder if it's because we're just used to forums?...(I too can't make sense of it)...when does a new post arrive, where does it end up, top or bottom...what if it gets filtered...etc...it really is confusing. I wonder if it's because I'm 31, and a younger generation makes better sense of it? I dunno....anyhow, back to topic.
Treat it like a news feed. If you sort by "new" the latest posts will always be on top. If you are on the default "hot" tab you will see posts that are popular. If they are not relevant anymore (which is usually after a day) they disappear from the first Hot page and are getting pushed further back.
Same with the comments. You can sort by "Best", "new" etc. Where you can choose if you want the most upvoted comments on top or the latest ones.
Since each post will only get an exposure of a day or two it is very hard to keep a longer discussion running.
I am also bad at explaining things sorry.
edit: I am still not sure what I should buy oh god :confused:
Post by: RavenII on Fri, 27 February 2015, 21:35:48
Ah okay, good to know. The format of reddit makes my head hurt.
I wonder if it's because we're just used to forums?...(I too can't make sense of it)...when does a new post arrive, where does it end up, top or bottom...what if it gets filtered...etc...it really is confusing. I wonder if it's because I'm 31, and a younger generation makes better sense of it? I dunno....anyhow, back to topic.
Treat it like a news feed. If you sort by "new" the latest posts will always be on top. If you are on the default "hot" tab you will see posts that are popular. If they are not relevant anymore (which is usually after a day) they disappear from the first Hot page and are getting pushed further back.
Same with the comments. You can sort by "Best", "new" etc. Where you can choose if you want the most upvoted comments on top or the latest ones.
Since each post will only get an exposure of a day or two it is very hard to keep a longer discussion running.
I am also bad at explaining things sorry.
edit: I am still not sure what I should buy oh god :confused:
DUDE!...that was a great help. I didn't even know you can do all that...There's just so many things going on, on the screen that it's over whelming sometimes...I guess I just have to give it a solid chance. Thanks for the explanation...that in itself helped a lot.
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 27 February 2015, 22:17:27
DUDE!...that was a great help. I didn't even know you can do all that...There's just so many things going on, on the screen that it's over whelming sometimes...I guess I just have to give it a solid chance. Thanks for the explanation...that in itself helped a lot.
Glad it helped :thumb:
Post by: tbc on Fri, 27 February 2015, 23:10:11
Just to make it clear, I just compared the feeling. The measurements took someone else (wscarlton), who happened to post it at almost the same time.deskhtority wiki which says that MX black are 60cN at actuation point
This is why I have a hard time understanding wlhlm's test that measured MX black at 65g bottom out. It really only takes 5g more force to bottom out the switch from actuation? It should be more like 15g.
Ah okay, good to know. The format of reddit makes my head hurt.
treat it like twitter.
you're supposed to ignore other people.
Post by: Fire Brand on Sat, 28 February 2015, 03:31:29
Awesome thank you both for answering this, might have to put another order in later tonight then :X just switch them all so I don't hulk them all out :cCan someone try something for me and tell me how strong the tops are as I just hulked my clear tops open just now after just finishing to solder all the leds in :XThey're more flexible and less brittle than the Abostudio ones
So can you tell me if they break easily or are they pretty solid? more like cherry tops :x
I'm sad now :c
Somewhere it is stated they are made of different plastics, being Abo's the one with less tensile strength that makes them more fragile therefore they may brake under pressure while being removed.
Post by: Dihedral on Sat, 28 February 2015, 03:47:43
Post by: wlhlm on Sat, 28 February 2015, 04:54:55
Reddit has the advantage over forums in that topics don't hang around for very long. It has the disadvantage that topics don't hang around for very long.Exactly.
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 28 February 2015, 10:54:10
Post by: ideus on Sat, 28 February 2015, 10:56:01
If any more interested vendors would like to hop on, we could blast through the 0.16 MOQ for blues and browns :thumb:
Of course. The original price is not bad by any means though. But paying even less for these switches is great.
Post by: Dihedral on Sat, 28 February 2015, 11:14:11
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 28 February 2015, 11:36:11
TheKeyboardCompany said that they would look into stocking gaterons in their reddit ama, and someone linked to this thread.Yeah, saw that. Does anyone have a way I could get in contact with them other than by phone?
Post by: Dihedral on Sat, 28 February 2015, 11:43:02
TheKeyboardCompany said that they would look into stocking gaterons in their reddit ama, and someone linked to this thread.Yeah, saw that. Does anyone have a way I could get in contact with them other than by phone?
Bruce is the M.D. You can contact him at bruce@keyboardco.com.
Alternatively, maybe the vendor subforum?
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 28 February 2015, 11:45:45
alright, just sent them an emailTheKeyboardCompany said that they would look into stocking gaterons in their reddit ama, and someone linked to this thread.Yeah, saw that. Does anyone have a way I could get in contact with them other than by phone?
Bruce is the M.D. You can contact him at bruce@keyboardco.com.
Alternatively, maybe the vendor subforum?
Post by: ideus on Sat, 28 February 2015, 11:58:44
alright, just sent them an emailTheKeyboardCompany said that they would look into stocking gaterons in their reddit ama, and someone linked to this thread.Yeah, saw that. Does anyone have a way I could get in contact with them other than by phone?
Bruce is the M.D. You can contact him at bruce@keyboardco.com.
Alternatively, maybe the vendor subforum?
Could this contact make take all the colors over 20k? Let see.
Post by: monotagary on Sat, 28 February 2015, 14:06:30
If any more interested vendors would like to hop on, we could blast through the 0.16 MOQ for blues and browns :thumb:
Wow we blew these MOQs out of the water! The Gatorade train is coming!
Post by: Booper on Sat, 28 February 2015, 14:47:04
Post by: ImBZppl on Sat, 28 February 2015, 16:28:22
Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
According to this comparison the gateron browns are less tactile than the mx browns. I really want tactile and it is looking like I should probably hold out until I can get the MX clears at a reasonable price. End game board and all that. There was/is a Massdrop vote on keys that included a GB for cherry switches. I hope it comes to pass.
thanks for the link!
Well, Now I don't want any brown gaterons... Maybe modify my order to more blues and a few clears + blacks?
Post by: yuiop on Sat, 28 February 2015, 21:53:05
Post by: ideus on Sat, 28 February 2015, 21:55:33
Ordered some. I've heard some good and bad things about Gaterons but prices are too good to resist. Thanks for running this!
Is like sex, everybody has an opinion, but: The bad thing is you not trying it, the good thing is that you will enjoy it. :))
Post by: RavenII on Sat, 28 February 2015, 21:55:46
Ordered some. I've heard some good and bad things about Gaterons but prices are too good to resist. Thanks for running this!
Bad...things? What bad things?! COME ON, START A PANIC!!
Post by: yuiop on Sat, 28 February 2015, 22:08:51
Ordered some. I've heard some good and bad things about Gaterons but prices are too good to resist. Thanks for running this!Is like sex, everybody has an opinion, but: The bad thing is you not trying it, the good thing is that you will enjoy it. :))
I have no clue what you're saying. I don't really have an opinion on these because I haven't had a chance to try one yet
Post by: ideus on Sat, 28 February 2015, 22:37:22
Ordered some. I've heard some good and bad things about Gaterons but prices are too good to resist. Thanks for running this!Is like sex, everybody has an opinion, but: The bad thing is you not trying it, the good thing is that you will enjoy it. :))
I have no clue what you're saying. I don't really have an opinion on these because I haven't had a chance to try one yet
Precisely.
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 28 February 2015, 22:45:12
Post by: ideus on Sat, 28 February 2015, 22:47:52
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Post by: quaxar on Sat, 28 February 2015, 23:56:24
This switch is making me think about planning out a 4 pole multicolor LED setup with a hand wired matrix
Post by: Dihedral on Sun, 01 March 2015, 03:47:56
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 01 March 2015, 08:33:54
How close to 20k?
Current Numbers:
Clears: 24,200
Blues: 17,000
Blacks: 25,000
Browns: 14,000
Post by: thebornotaku on Sun, 01 March 2015, 13:22:25
Also I entered for 300, 150 blues and 150 browns. Might have to get a Phantom board and maybe an ErgoDox board set...
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and it'll give me a switch to replace the faulty space switch in my Das, which will be nice.
Also, if it's at all possible, I'd prefer to be contacted on Reddit since that will automatically notify my phone, versus on here where I pretty much just lurk as of yet.
Post by: wlhlm on Sun, 01 March 2015, 13:26:53
Also, if it's at all possible, I'd prefer to be contacted on Reddit since that will automatically notify my phone, versus on here where I pretty much just lurk as of yet.Try out the Tapatalk app, which should notify you for this forum as well.
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 01 March 2015, 13:29:15
Is it 20k overall or 20k for each type of switch?20k for each switch type.
Also I entered for 300, 150 blues and 150 browns. Might have to get a Phantom board and maybe an ErgoDox board set...
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and it'll give me a switch to replace the faulty space switch in my Das, which will be nice.
Also, if it's at all possible, I'd prefer to be contacted on Reddit since that will automatically notify my phone, versus on here where I pretty much just lurk as of yet.
Made a note of your preference in the doc
Post by: hking0036 on Sun, 01 March 2015, 13:54:01
also if possible I'd like to get just one of all the others, but since you said to put it in 10's I put it down as such. If it's not possible then just 10 for all and 80 blacks.
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 01 March 2015, 13:55:33
can I up my blacks from 10 to 80?if it's under ten, any number is fine :thumb: done.
also if possible I'd like to get just one of all the others, but since you said to put it in 10's I put it down as such. If it's not possible then just 10 for all and 80 blacks.
Post by: hking0036 on Sun, 01 March 2015, 13:56:38
great, thanks!can I up my blacks from 10 to 80?if it's under ten, any number is fine :thumb: done.
also if possible I'd like to get just one of all the others, but since you said to put it in 10's I put it down as such. If it's not possible then just 10 for all and 80 blacks.
Post by: rand77 on Sun, 01 March 2015, 23:57:28
Post by: NexVestrum on Mon, 02 March 2015, 00:23:52
Post by: RavenII on Mon, 02 March 2015, 11:49:50
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 02 March 2015, 12:25:36
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 02 March 2015, 13:26:53
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:06:37
So, I noticed that the shipping charges have changed. Are there rough estimates as to what we can expect at certain quantities? This could potentially change a lot of minds if it's a substantial difference.Nope, it's been 7-8 for a set since the beginning, I just made sure to specify that it would go up with bigger orders since people sometimes seem to lack common sense. And the prices really shouldn't drastically change between something like a 100 switch order and a 300 switch order, a few dollars at the most. But obviously people who are ordering like 1500 switches will pay a good bit more. But I don't think that'll come as a shock to anyone. I'll get some more exact estimates tonight though.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:07:27
Post by: RavenII on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:08:01
So, I noticed that the shipping charges have changed. Are there rough estimates as to what we can expect at certain quantities? This could potentially change a lot of minds if it's a substantial difference.Nope, it's been 7-8 for a set since the beginning, I just made sure to specify that it would go up with bugger orders since people sometimes seem to lack common sense. And the prices really shouldn't drastically change between something like a 100 switch order and a 300 switch order, a few dollars at the most. But obviously people who are ordering like 1500 switches will pay a good bit more. But I don't think that'll come as a shock to anyone. I'll get some more exact estimates tonight though.
Ah, gotcha. Lack of common sense is certainly an issue. Thanks for clarifying.
Post by: thebornotaku on Mon, 02 March 2015, 18:35:51
Realized I really am not that much of a fan of the clicky switches.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 02 March 2015, 18:37:08
Actually if at all possible I'd like to switch out (har har) my 150 Blues for 150 Clears. Keep the Browns though.
Realized I really am not that much of a fan of the clicky switches.
PM hwood with your updated quantities, he will take care of it right away.
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 02 March 2015, 18:56:00
Actually if at all possible I'd like to switch out (har har) my 150 Blues for 150 Clears. Keep the Browns though.done :thumb: but yeah, in the future PMs are best, luckily I saw this though
Realized I really am not that much of a fan of the clicky switches.
Post by: thebornotaku on Tue, 03 March 2015, 00:57:37
Actually if at all possible I'd like to switch out (har har) my 150 Blues for 150 Clears. Keep the Browns though.done :thumb: but yeah, in the future PMs are best, luckily I saw this though
Realized I really am not that much of a fan of the clicky switches.
Right, didn't even cross my mind. Thanks though! Excited for this, and I can't wait to build a board!
Post by: pichu23 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:07:11
Anyone care to clarify that ? :D
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:33:02
I read somewhere that the black, red, and clear gaterons have the same stem. Only difference is the spring in it.Well, yeah, since they're all linears, only difference in stem is the color. Though I'm not actually 100% that the plastic in clear stems is exactly the same
Anyone care to clarify that ? :D
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 07:41:01
Post by: ideus on Tue, 03 March 2015, 07:42:49
Post by: LBartley on Tue, 03 March 2015, 11:19:12
I was ready to jump in for some reds, but since they're not longer available, I'm thinking clears. But I'd really like to see the stems if anyone has done, or knows of a teardown of various colours.
Post by: Dihedral on Tue, 03 March 2015, 11:23:32
So, Clears are 35g linear? I've seen mention that they are tactile, and have a bump like browns, but never actually seen the stem outside of the housing.
I was ready to jump in for some reds, but since they're not longer available, I'm thinking clears. But I'd really like to see the stems if anyone has done, or knows of a teardown of various colours.
They are just very light linears. Same stem as other linear switches.
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 March 2015, 11:30:57
:D
Post by: inanis on Tue, 03 March 2015, 12:01:31
I kid, I kid.
I did order 200 Clears, but it is because I have some 62g springs kicking about, 35g is way to light for me. In the Gaterons that I have for samples the Clears are smoother than Red and Black, even when I swapped it out with heavier springs. I can't wait to try them out on a whole board.
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 03 March 2015, 12:06:36
In the Gaterons that I have for samples the Clears are smoother than Red and Black, even when I swapped it out with heavier springs.Even smoother than Gateron Reds/Blacks? I have Reds/Blacks and they are already super smooth. Why would they be different? Wouldn't it be cheaper to make Clear/Red/Black using the same mold and material and just change the color?
Post by: inanis on Tue, 03 March 2015, 12:12:01
In the Gaterons that I have for samples the Clears are smoother than Red and Black, even when I swapped it out with heavier springs.Even smoother than Gateron Reds/Blacks? I have Reds/Blacks and they are already super smooth. Why would they be different? Wouldn't it be cheaper to make Clear/Red/Black using the same mold and material and just change the color?
Honestly, I don't know why it feels smoother to me. I've taken them apart several times to spring swap and in my (limited) experience I know that when I take the Black switch and move that spring with the Clear, the Clear is smoother. To be fair, I've messed with the Clear a bit more, or it could just be that the two Blacks I have are abnormal. I only have 2 of each switch type so it is a very small sample group. I also haven't taken the stem and swapped that.
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 03 March 2015, 12:23:03
I have some 62g springs kicking about, 35g is way to light for me.35g should be ~48g on the Korean scale. just so nobody confuses Korean spring weight vs Cherry spring weight
Post by: dante on Tue, 03 March 2015, 12:33:27
Maybe they would be better on a plateless board?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 03 March 2015, 12:34:53
I would imagine the 35g Clear Gaterons would be terrible on a board without O-Rings/Soft landing pads.
Maybe they would be better on a plateless board?
I think the general consensus is most people are buying them because they like the look and will swap a different spring into them. I'm not sure anyone plans on actually using them stock.
OR people need to learn to read and there will be many pissed off customers
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 03 March 2015, 12:47:36
Post by: ideus on Tue, 03 March 2015, 12:49:16
That and it's just as expensive to get a full switch as the clear switch tops.
The tops are made of a transparent plastic, while the switch's tops are translucent, so there are a little bit different in between them.
Post by: Dihedral on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:01:17
I would imagine the 35g Clear Gaterons would be terrible on a board without O-Rings/Soft landing pads.
Maybe they would be better on a plateless board?
I think the general consensus is most people are buying them because they like the look and will swap a different spring into them. I'm not sure anyone plans on actually using them stock.
OR people need to learn to read and there will be many pissed off customers
I can't understand buying such light switches.
Post by: monotagary on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:13:07
I would imagine the 35g Clear Gaterons would be terrible on a board without O-Rings/Soft landing pads.
Maybe they would be better on a plateless board?
I think the general consensus is most people are buying them because they like the look and will swap a different spring into them. I'm not sure anyone plans on actually using them stock.
OR people need to learn to read and there will be many pissed off customers
I can't understand buying such light switches.
It's a new experience that some people might want to try out. They are also very aesthetically pleasing.
Post by: RavenII on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:38:17
Post by: Dihedral on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:44:09
I guess it MIGHT have something to do with the (lack of) dyes used in the stem? that could MAYBE make them softer/smoother?
Matias originally intended to use orange dye in the quiet click but removed it as it affected the plastic's properties. however gaterons have dyed stems, just they have transparent casing.
Post by: RavenII on Tue, 03 March 2015, 15:50:36
I guess it MIGHT have something to do with the (lack of) dyes used in the stem? that could MAYBE make them softer/smoother?
Matias originally intended to use orange dye in the quiet click but removed it as it affected the plastic's properties. however gaterons have dyed stems, just they have transparent casing.
I don't the clears are dyed...
Post by: ccc24 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 21:40:38
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 22:01:43
about to pay the invoice. Anyway I can confirm my address before these get shipped out?pm'd
Post by: ccc24 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 22:05:00
about to pay the invoice. Anyway I can confirm my address before these get shipped out?pm'd
perfect thanks
Post by: b7ad on Wed, 04 March 2015, 07:28:54
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 04 March 2015, 09:06:25
Post by: Razor Lotus on Wed, 04 March 2015, 10:41:51
I would imagine the 35g Clear Gaterons would be terrible on a board without O-Rings/Soft landing pads.
Maybe they would be better on a plateless board?
I think the general consensus is most people are buying them because they like the look and will swap a different spring into them. I'm not sure anyone plans on actually using them stock.
OR people need to learn to read and there will be many pissed off customers
I can't understand buying such light switches.
Personally I'm getting them just to try them out
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 04 March 2015, 11:35:51
Does anyone have experience with using the top housing and stem of a gateron clear with the bottom housing of an mx switch compared to using the whole gateron switch? I am planning on putting some of these into my LZ and would potentially be able to avoid re-soldering.well, since the added smoothness is entirely from the stem and top housing, it should feel and work the same
Post by: inanis on Wed, 04 March 2015, 12:21:14
Does anyone have experience with using the top housing and stem of a gateron clear with the bottom housing of an mx switch compared to using the whole gateron switch? I am planning on putting some of these into my LZ and would potentially be able to avoid re-soldering.well, since the added smoothness is entirely from the stem and top housing, it should feel and work the same
I just swapped out the stem and switch top between a Cherry Red and a Gateron Clear. In doing so, the switch with the Cherry bottom and original Red spring felt smoother than a typical Cherry Red.
Post by: b7ad on Wed, 04 March 2015, 12:45:32
I just swapped out the stem and switch top between a Cherry Red and a Gateron Clear. In doing so, the switch with the Cherry bottom and original Red spring felt smoother than a typical Cherry Red.
thanks for giving it a go :-*
well, since the added smoothness is entirely from the stem and top housing, it should feel and work the same
yeah that's what I'm thinking. I think someone on the livestream said something about the contacts being bare on the gaterons, so maybe using a cherry bottom for the sake of longevity may even be beneficial, although of course it's hard to tell for sure at this point in time if that is true.
Post by: samsonite727 on Wed, 04 March 2015, 16:57:58
The declared amount for customs will default at either $20, or the actual amount if your order is less. PM Shadovved if you'd like to change the amount
Sorry for the confusion, but am I right to assume this message is for those individuals that have placed HUGE orders?
Edit. nvm, pm'd hwood and got a quick response. thanks
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 04 March 2015, 17:00:07
about to pay the invoice. Anyway I can confirm my address before these get shipped out?
Never received an invoice...did I miss something?
Post by: whentheclouds on Wed, 04 March 2015, 17:17:34
Post by: Fire Brand on Wed, 04 March 2015, 17:18:07
about to pay the invoice. Anyway I can confirm my address before these get shipped out?
Never received an invoice...did I miss something?
Invoices will selectively start to go out now, the bulk will start happening Friday. Orders will still be open til the 12th and you stilll have til the 16th to pay invoices.^
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 04 March 2015, 17:27:25
Post by: ccc24 on Wed, 04 March 2015, 17:56:06
Also, a select few of you might be seeing shipping corrections around shipping time. We don't expect to have very many of these and are pretty confident with our current pricing, and the change shouldn't be more than $1 or so
I got an an increase of 3.5, for a total of 13.5 for shipping and processing and I only ordered 150 switches. Just to make sure is that what the average rate is for shipping to California?
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 04 March 2015, 17:57:32
Yeah, sorry, the whole mass invoicing thing is new to me, I missed some things the first time around. I forgot to add the GB fee the first time around, so most people should be seeing that changeAlso, a select few of you might be seeing shipping corrections around shipping time. We don't expect to have very many of these and are pretty confident with our current pricing, and the change shouldn't be more than $1 or so
I got an an increase of 3.5, for a total of 13.5 for shipping and processing and I only ordered 150 switches. Just to make sure is that what the average rate is for shipping to California?
Post by: ccc24 on Wed, 04 March 2015, 18:04:19
Yeah, sorry, the whole mass invoicing thing is new to me, I missed some things the first time around. I forgot to add the GB fee the first time around, so most people should be seeing that changeAlso, a select few of you might be seeing shipping corrections around shipping time. We don't expect to have very many of these and are pretty confident with our current pricing, and the change shouldn't be more than $1 or so
I got an an increase of 3.5, for a total of 13.5 for shipping and processing and I only ordered 150 switches. Just to make sure is that what the average rate is for shipping to California?
sounds good, no problem
Post by: Lpwl on Wed, 04 March 2015, 21:27:29
:eek:
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 04 March 2015, 21:29:21
about to pay the invoice. Anyway I can confirm my address before these get shipped out?
Never received an invoice...did I miss something?Invoices will selectively start to go out now, the bulk will start happening Friday. Orders will still be open til the 12th and you stilll have til the 16th to pay invoices.^
Thank you for helping my selective eyes XD
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 04 March 2015, 21:31:50
That's not strictly related to this GB but PayPal exchange rate is kinda "wow" : 1 EUR = 1,07269 USDHoly crap the eur is low
:eek:
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Wed, 04 March 2015, 21:48:33
That's not strictly related to this GB but PayPal exchange rate is kinda "wow" : 1 EUR = 1,07269 USDHoly crap the eur is low
:eek:
Or you can also say that the US dollar exchange is high.
PS: 1 BRL = 0.34 USD but I don't even care, this GB is too good to let it pass.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 04 March 2015, 22:40:36
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 04 March 2015, 23:06:30
Post by: Hak Foo on Wed, 04 March 2015, 23:12:35
Post by: cmadrid on Wed, 04 March 2015, 23:43:39
Done. Blacks are about to hit 30k :eek:. Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...
No problem! Just convert everyone's order to blacks ;)
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 04 March 2015, 23:45:01
If only we were even at 100k total switches :pDone. Blacks are about to hit 30k :eek:. Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...
No problem! Just convert everyone's order to blacks ;)
Post by: cmadrid on Wed, 04 March 2015, 23:47:10
If only we were even at 100k total switches :pDone. Blacks are about to hit 30k :eek:. Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...
No problem! Just convert everyone's order to blacks ;)
We are getting close to 100k total! =)
Post by: cmadrid on Wed, 04 March 2015, 23:47:34
If only we were even at 100k total switches :pDone. Blacks are about to hit 30k :eek:. Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...
No problem! Just convert everyone's order to blacks ;)
We are getting close to 100k total! =)
Out of curiosity, what is the price break at 100k?
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 04 March 2015, 23:50:04
it drops from 0.99 yuan to 0.98, sooo a fraction of a cent :pIf only we were even at 100k total switches :pDone. Blacks are about to hit 30k :eek:. Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...
No problem! Just convert everyone's order to blacks ;)
We are getting close to 100k total! =)
Out of curiosity, what is the price break at 100k?
Post by: leandre.north on Thu, 05 March 2015, 00:13:01
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 05 March 2015, 00:19:47
How long will this go on?
It's in the OP.
Post by: leandre.north on Thu, 05 March 2015, 00:36:25
ThanksHow long will this go on?
It's in the OP.
Post by: tbc on Thu, 05 March 2015, 01:08:50
I would imagine the 35g Clear Gaterons would be terrible on a board without O-Rings/Soft landing pads.
Maybe they would be better on a plateless board?
I think the general consensus is most people are buying them because they like the look and will swap a different spring into them. I'm not sure anyone plans on actually using them stock.
OR people need to learn to read and there will be many pissed off customers
I can't understand buying such light switches.
it's eerily similiar to a 30g topre. definitely different, but as close as 'mx' and topre are ever going to get.
Post by: honoka on Thu, 05 March 2015, 01:24:42
Post by: Ngt on Thu, 05 March 2015, 06:22:04
it drops from 0.99 yuan to 0.98, sooo a fraction of a cent :pIf only we were even at 100k total switches :pDone. Blacks are about to hit 30k :o . Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...
No problem! Just convert everyone's order to blacks ;)
We are getting close to 100k total! =)
Out of curiosity, what is the price break at 100k?
Haha not even worth. Could you imagine 100k switches delivered in your house/flat? Damn I hope you have some space left.
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Thu, 05 March 2015, 06:27:43
it drops from 0.99 yuan to 0.98, sooo a fraction of a cent :pIf only we were even at 100k total switches :pDone. Blacks are about to hit 30k :o . Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...
No problem! Just convert everyone's order to blacks ;)
We are getting close to 100k total! =)
Out of curiosity, what is the price break at 100k?
Haha not even worth. Could you imagine 100k switches delivered in your house/flat? Damn I hope you have some space left.
Cubic root of 100k is ≈ 47. A big square box of 4' sides would be enough to hold all those switches. At least theoretically. ;D
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 05 March 2015, 06:48:51
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 05 March 2015, 06:59:15
it drops from 0.99 yuan to 0.98, sooo a fraction of a cent :pIf only we were even at 100k total switches :pDone. Blacks are about to hit 30k :o . Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...
No problem! Just convert everyone's order to blacks ;)
We are getting close to 100k total! =)
Out of curiosity, what is the price break at 100k?
Haha not even worth. Could you imagine 100k switches delivered in your house/flat? Damn I hope you have some space left.
Cubic root of 100k is ≈ 47. A big square box of 4' sides would be enough to hold all those switches. At least theoretically. ;D
Well, good news for you that I dont live in a four foot home :p
Post by: ideus on Thu, 05 March 2015, 07:15:42
People have not realized these blues are the cheapest, noisy, typing-friendly switches we could ever buy. Even if someone does not want a full blues board, these will always be handy for modifiers; where a nice click will feedback you that the mod has been activated.
Give them more love and get these blues for half the price for all of us.
Post by: atectatifern on Thu, 05 March 2015, 08:16:48
Post by: vindaon on Thu, 05 March 2015, 08:20:06
Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 05 March 2015, 08:22:49
Post by: eosph on Thu, 05 March 2015, 08:25:10
Do we have 4 days from receiving invoice, or can I wait until the actual end date?
fwiw my invoice said it had to be paid today.
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 05 March 2015, 08:28:09
Invoice received and paid.Do we have 4 days from receiving invoice, or can I wait until the actual end date?
fwiw my invoice said it had to be paid today.
You can pay a few days later, it's just that the default setting is to be paid on receipt.
I was just too lazy to change the setting :p
Post by: Bandit on Thu, 05 March 2015, 08:35:24
Post by: tuantruong on Thu, 05 March 2015, 08:47:12
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 05 March 2015, 08:54:37
got my invoice, but didn't see clear top covers listed, are those top covers supposed to be invoiced separately?
OH ****. PM me your invoice number. My matching must have had holes.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 05 March 2015, 09:09:51
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Post by: eosph on Thu, 05 March 2015, 09:10:25
Invoice received and paid.Do we have 4 days from receiving invoice, or can I wait until the actual end date?
fwiw my invoice said it had to be paid today.
You can pay a few days later, it's just that the default setting is to be paid on receipt.
I was just too lazy to change the setting :p
Ha fair enough, either way I've paid and looking forward to finishing my NERD60
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 05 March 2015, 09:16:27
Invoice received and paid.Do we have 4 days from receiving invoice, or can I wait until the actual end date?
fwiw my invoice said it had to be paid today.
You can pay a few days later, it's just that the default setting is to be paid on receipt.
I was just too lazy to change the setting :p
Ha fair enough, either way I've paid and looking forward to finishing my NERD60
Yeap people, PM me for anything, I can change whatever invoice or thing before you pay for it.
I wont be monitoring the thread and invoicing at the same time :))
Post by: alex952 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 09:25:15
Post by: gergo2007 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 09:52:03
Unfortunately i had to change my order (just sent the PM), could you update my invoice?
Thank you
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 09:58:05
Are we really gonna leave the blues hanging!?Even if it doesn't hit MOQ, I'll buy it up to 20k
Do we have 4 days from receiving invoice, or can I wait until the actual end date?You can wait til the actual end date of the 16th
HiShould be changed shortly
Unfortunately i had to change my order (just sent the PM), could you update my invoice?
Thank you
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 09:59:46
And if need be, I will buy the Blues up to the 20k mark so buy without worry!
Post by: gergo2007 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 10:03:55
Are we really gonna leave the blues hanging!?Even if it doesn't hit MOQ, I'll buy it up to 20kDo we have 4 days from receiving invoice, or can I wait until the actual end date?You can wait til the actual end date of the 16thHiShould be changed shortly
Unfortunately i had to change my order (just sent the PM), could you update my invoice?
Thank you
Paid, thank you!!
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 05 March 2015, 10:06:30
For all questions about invoicing, PM Shadovved, unless you got one of the invoices from me. Also, you have until the 16th to pay your invoice regardless of what the invoice says
And if need be, I will buy the Blues up to the 20k mark so buy without worry!
I will continue the rest in awhile........gonna rest my fingers and eyes for a little while. I'm seeing all the numbers floating around HAHAHAH :p
But, please still PM me for any problems, I'll reply when I get back :thumb:
Post by: hj-s on Thu, 05 March 2015, 10:32:34
And if need be, I will buy the Blues up to the 20k mark so buy without worry!Same for browns or not?
Nevertheless, just paid my invoice. Now just waiting!
Post by: Olson.dev on Thu, 05 March 2015, 10:36:05
Post by: swornxin on Thu, 05 March 2015, 11:16:50
Post by: Ngt on Thu, 05 March 2015, 11:20:05
For all questions about invoicing, PM Shadovved, unless you got one of the invoices from me. Also, you have until the 16th to pay your invoice regardless of what the invoice says
And if need be, I will buy the Blues up to the 20k mark so buy without worry!
Nice of you Hwood!
Post by: rand77 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 11:53:47
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 11:54:10
I don't think I could manage to buy the 5k needed to bump itAnd if need be, I will buy the Blues up to the 20k mark so buy without worry!Same for browns or not?
Nevertheless, just paid my invoice. Now just waiting!
Post by: Willyc277 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 12:10:02
Post by: hermith on Thu, 05 March 2015, 12:19:46
Just got my invoice and shipping is more than double what was posted in the OP???
How many did you buy? I noticed the same but then I realized I had bought 300 switches. :D
Post by: omen7288 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 12:23:28
Just got my invoice and shipping is more than double what was posted in the OP???
Same, but i ordered 340 switches and 220 clear housing tops. Shipping was just under $40.00. I guess that's reasonable given that shipping was 7-8* for about 100 switches. I was not expecting to different to be so high but I'm ok with it.
Post by: Willyc277 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 12:26:07
Just got my invoice and shipping is more than double what was posted in the OP???
Same, but i ordered 340 switches and 220 clear housing tops. Shipping was just under $40.00. I guess that's reasonable given that shipping was 7-8* for about 100 switches. I was not expecting to different to be so high but I'm ok with it.
Ah I've got 140 switches and 140 covers. Seems like the op in the clear switch thread states that they will be shipped together, which I figured would cut down on shipping costs. Apparently not.
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 12:28:41
well, the shipping price is reduced, but it will still cost a decent amount to ship all of thatJust got my invoice and shipping is more than double what was posted in the OP???
Same, but i ordered 340 switches and 220 clear housing tops. Shipping was just under $40.00. I guess that's reasonable given that shipping was 7-8* for about 100 switches. I was not expecting to different to be so high but I'm ok with it.
Ah I've got 140 switches and 140 covers. Seems like the op in the clear switch thread states that they will be shipped together, which I figured would cut down on shipping costs. Apparently not.
Post by: hermith on Thu, 05 March 2015, 12:46:38
Post by: RavenII on Thu, 05 March 2015, 12:55:12
Post by: Willyc277 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 13:00:03
Post by: RavenII on Thu, 05 March 2015, 13:11:29
Came out to $.25 a switch for me, not bad.
Yeah, but that makes it not THAT much cheaper than MD...they were fairly reasonable too...
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 13:13:33
Well, the 0.25 obviously includes shipping. For MD, it was 0.33 without shipping, and remember that their international shipping prices are absolutely horrendous. Even for someone conus, their price would come out to $0.4/switchCame out to $.25 a switch for me, not bad.
Yeah, but that makes it not THAT much cheaper than MD...they were fairly reasonable too...
Post by: RavenII on Thu, 05 March 2015, 13:21:24
Well, the 0.25 obviously includes shipping. For MD, it was 0.33 without shipping, and remember that their international shipping prices are absolutely horrendous. Even for someone conus, their price would come out to $0.4/switchCame out to $.25 a switch for me, not bad.
Yeah, but that makes it not THAT much cheaper than MD...they were fairly reasonable too...
I'll just wait to see what my invoice says to decide for sure, I was going to add a few more...but...who knows.
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 05 March 2015, 13:25:43
1000 switches + a few tops = $$ shipping
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 13:26:44
On my invoice, Shadovved just said **** it, I'll bill you the shipping later. ;Douch, have fun with that :p
1000 switches + a few tops = $$ shipping
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 13:27:04
Post by: argcargv on Thu, 05 March 2015, 13:30:52
I should have ordered 200 clear switch tops, 100 clears, 100 blues, 100 blacks.
But I was only invoiced 20, 10, 10 and 10
Now do I open a new order? Or can you change my current order?
Thanks!
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 13:36:14
Hi my invoice number is SS-0128pm shadovved for questions about invoice :thumb: And when it said order in 10s, it meant try to order amounts like 100/80/20, not literally the multiple of ten you'd like, though it seems that was a common mistake
I should have ordered 200 clear switch tops, 100 clears, 100 blues, 100 blacks.
But I was only invoiced 20, 10, 10 and 10
Now do I open a new order? Or can you change my current order?
Thanks!
Post by: Johan on Thu, 05 March 2015, 13:37:32
Post by: swill on Thu, 05 March 2015, 14:05:42
Post by: Alastoris on Thu, 05 March 2015, 14:43:42
So if people are getting invoiced, I guess we need to go into crazy mode to get the browns to 20k? I can another couple hundred to my order, but I am going to need some help on this.
I got billed 70 black and 70 brown for 0.16 each. I guess we went over?
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 14:46:47
We got over for blacks and blues, not for browns. We're really close on bluesSo if people are getting invoiced, I guess we need to go into crazy mode to get the browns to 20k? I can another couple hundred to my order, but I am going to need some help on this.
I got billed 70 black and 70 brown for 0.16 each. I guess we went over?
Post by: argcargv on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:13:30
Hi my invoice number is SS-0128pm shadovved for questions about invoice :thumb: And when it said order in 10s, it meant try to order amounts like 100/80/20, not literally the multiple of ten you'd like, though it seems that was a common mistake
I should have ordered 200 clear switch tops, 100 clears, 100 blues, 100 blacks.
But I was only invoiced 20, 10, 10 and 10
Now do I open a new order? Or can you change my current order?
Thanks!
Oh I see. :p
Thanks I'm waiting to hear back from shadovved.
Post by: swill on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:17:14
We got over for blacks and blues, not for browns. We're really close on bluesSo if people are getting invoiced, I guess we need to go into crazy mode to get the browns to 20k? I can another couple hundred to my order, but I am going to need some help on this.
I got billed 70 black and 70 brown for 0.16 each. I guess we went over?
Can you give me a current count on browns? I am considering buying the difference to get it to $0.16 as well. Maybe someone is willing to split buying the difference with me? If it is actually 4000 needed and I get it to the $0.16 price point, that will cost me $640. Seems like a pretty big investment considering I don't need that many browns and I have never tried them. Haha... Better than buying switches at $0.60/each shipped.
Post by: Naed on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:18:19
So if people are getting invoiced, I guess we need to go into crazy mode to get the browns to 20k? I can another couple hundred to my order, but I am going to need some help on this.
I will put in a order for 200ish browns tomorrow. So that is a bit more. But yes. need help :)
Post by: omen7288 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:19:06
We got over for blacks and blues, not for browns. We're really close on bluesSo if people are getting invoiced, I guess we need to go into crazy mode to get the browns to 20k? I can another couple hundred to my order, but I am going to need some help on this.
I got billed 70 black and 70 brown for 0.16 each. I guess we went over?
Do you mean "got over for blacks and clears, not for browns. We're really close on blues?"
You mentioned above to order more blues. I already paid my invoice and I imagine I could request more. I wouldn't mind adding more blues if need be but, if I had another 110 blues and my shipping goes up for another $8, then I'm not sure. Will be deciding soon if I should buy more to push up over the 20k
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:20:07
Post by: Naed on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:22:35
@swill, order the 4000 switches, and once they hit $0.16, more people will buy them. Then adjust down at the invoice due date. :D
Risky ;) I like it!
in all seriousness. If we wait a day or two, the weekend will be in full swing and people will be checking back on the status of the thread, because it will be getting "close" to the end. So hopefully that does a bit too :)
Post by: swill on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:22:37
@swill, order the 4000 switches, and once they hit $0.16, more people will buy them. Then adjust down at the invoice due date. :D
Ya, if hwood34 doesn't mind invoicing me last and making the adjustment to reduce my order down to what is needed to get us to $0.16, that could work pretty well...
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:26:55
I'll be sure to talk to shadovved about it, but that is a great idea@swill, order the 4000 switches, and once they hit $0.16, more people will buy them. Then adjust down at the invoice due date. :D
Ya, if hwood34 doesn't mind invoicing me last and making the adjustment to reduce my order down to what is needed to get us to $0.16, that could work pretty well...
Post by: joey on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:29:37
Post by: swill on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:30:06
I'll be sure to talk to shadovved about it, but that is a great idea@swill, order the 4000 switches, and once they hit $0.16, more people will buy them. Then adjust down at the invoice due date. :D
Ya, if hwood34 doesn't mind invoicing me last and making the adjustment to reduce my order down to what is needed to get us to $0.16, that could work pretty well...
Alright, talk to shadovved and make sure that is something we can do. Also, if you can give me an updated count and I will add that amount to my order and then we can go from there. Make sense?
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:37:19
The count in the OP is accurate as of today. I'll get him to update the count :thumb:I'll be sure to talk to shadovved about it, but that is a great idea@swill, order the 4000 switches, and once they hit $0.16, more people will buy them. Then adjust down at the invoice due date. :D
Ya, if hwood34 doesn't mind invoicing me last and making the adjustment to reduce my order down to what is needed to get us to $0.16, that could work pretty well...
Alright, talk to shadovved and make sure that is something we can do. Also, if you can give me an updated count and I will add that amount to my order and then we can go from there. Make sense?
Post by: cmadrid on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:37:34
I'll be sure to talk to shadovved about it, but that is a great idea@swill, order the 4000 switches, and once they hit $0.16, more people will buy them. Then adjust down at the invoice due date. :D
Ya, if hwood34 doesn't mind invoicing me last and making the adjustment to reduce my order down to what is needed to get us to $0.16, that could work pretty well...
Alright, talk to shadovved and make sure that is something we can do. Also, if you can give me an updated count and I will add that amount to my order and then we can go from there. Make sense?
Makes cents to me... ;)
Post by: swill on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:39:46
Post by: Zapheo on Thu, 05 March 2015, 16:27:00
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 19:16:59
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 05 March 2015, 19:53:22
Post by: awhitedev on Thu, 05 March 2015, 20:29:16
Edit: Ohh just realized this was my 100th post. Woo :)
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 20:31:18
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 05 March 2015, 20:32:24
@elton registered airmail, aka USPS Priority
Post by: swill on Thu, 05 March 2015, 21:43:14
Please feel free to add more browns to your order now that you know they will be at the lower price point. I have sorted out with Shadovved that I will reduce my order at the end to keep us at this price point, but reduce the amount of extra switches I am ordering. I have ordered almost 5,000 switches right now, so if I can get that down by 1k or 2k, my wallet would appreciate it. :)
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 22:22:38
I have just edited my order and added another 4000 browns to make sure that we get the $0.16 price point for that switch.Awesome! Thanks a bunch man, really helps :thumb: PM'd
Please feel free to add more browns to your order now that you know they will be at the lower price point. I have sorted out with Shadovved that I will reduce my order at the end to keep us at this price point, but reduce the amount of extra switches I am ordering. I have ordered almost 5,000 switches right now, so if I can get that down by 1k or 2k, my wallet would appreciate it. :)
Post by: engicoder on Thu, 05 March 2015, 22:25:45
I have just edited my order and added another 4000 browns to make sure that we get the $0.16 price point for that switch.Awesome! Thanks a bunch man, really helps :thumb: PM'd
Please feel free to add more browns to your order now that you know they will be at the lower price point. I have sorted out with Shadovved that I will reduce my order at the end to keep us at this price point, but reduce the amount of extra switches I am ordering. I have ordered almost 5,000 switches right now, so if I can get that down by 1k or 2k, my wallet would appreciate it. :)
I've already been invoiced...any chance I can add to my order?
Post by: engicoder on Thu, 05 March 2015, 22:28:06
I have just edited my order and added another 4000 browns to make sure that we get the $0.16 price point for that switch.Awesome! Thanks a bunch man, really helps :thumb: PM'd
Please feel free to add more browns to your order now that you know they will be at the lower price point. I have sorted out with Shadovved that I will reduce my order at the end to keep us at this price point, but reduce the amount of extra switches I am ordering. I have ordered almost 5,000 switches right now, so if I can get that down by 1k or 2k, my wallet would appreciate it. :)
I've already been invoiced...any chance I can add to my order? Not a problem if not...just thought I would try to help swill out.
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 23:11:18
yup, just PM shadovvedI have just edited my order and added another 4000 browns to make sure that we get the $0.16 price point for that switch.Awesome! Thanks a bunch man, really helps :thumb: PM'd
Please feel free to add more browns to your order now that you know they will be at the lower price point. I have sorted out with Shadovved that I will reduce my order at the end to keep us at this price point, but reduce the amount of extra switches I am ordering. I have ordered almost 5,000 switches right now, so if I can get that down by 1k or 2k, my wallet would appreciate it. :)
I've already been invoiced...any chance I can add to my order?
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 23:22:24
For problems or questions regarding invoices, please PM Shadovved
Post by: pryedthirdeye on Fri, 06 March 2015, 00:03:41
Post by: woodmech on Fri, 06 March 2015, 00:53:15
For all questions about invoicing, PM Shadovved, unless you got one of the invoices from me. Also, you have until the 16th to pay your invoice regardless of what the invoice says
And if need be, I will buy the Blues up to the 20k mark so buy without worry!
Thanks for running this GB. In for 100 Blues. :thumb:
I joined GH just for this. :D
Post by: leandre.north on Fri, 06 March 2015, 00:58:06
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 06 March 2015, 01:00:46
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 01:03:43
I can't remember if I changed my order or not... and then I payed the invoice... anyway to see what I've ordered?shoot shadovved a PM :thumb:
Post by: thebornotaku on Fri, 06 March 2015, 01:37:15
Regardless, ~$79 is a good price for 3+ keyboards worth of switches and should keep me well occupied. Hell, maybe I'll turn this MX blue Das in to a Gateron Clear Das...
Can't wait to get busy with the iron!
Post by: joey on Fri, 06 March 2015, 01:41:45
Post by: jujubii on Fri, 06 March 2015, 01:48:15
Just as an aside, $24 is a lot for shipping! I don't know how much space 300 switches occupies in loose form but I would imagine it could fit quite nicely in a USPS Flat Rate box.
Regardless, ~$79 is a good price for 3+ keyboards worth of switches and should keep me well occupied. Hell, maybe I'll turn this MX blue Das in to a Gateron Clear Das...
Can't wait to get busy with the iron!
so it seems the $7-8/100 switches in the OP holds true
If I were to send in a request for 200 gateron blacks will I be looking at: $0.16*200 + $8*2 + $3.50 (handling) = $51.50?
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 02:20:00
well, it's not exactly $7-8/100. 200 switches is $Just as an aside, $24 is a lot for shipping! I don't know how much space 300 switches occupies in loose form but I would imagine it could fit quite nicely in a USPS Flat Rate box.
Regardless, ~$79 is a good price for 3+ keyboards worth of switches and should keep me well occupied. Hell, maybe I'll turn this MX blue Das in to a Gateron Clear Das...
Can't wait to get busy with the iron!
so it seems the $7-8/100 switches in the OP holds true
If I were to send in an invoice for 200 gateron blacks will I be looking at: $0.16*200 + $8*2 + $3.50 (handling) = $51.50?
edit: sry typo
Post by: evangs on Fri, 06 March 2015, 02:40:44
Post by: alex952 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 03:24:02
Post by: leandre.north on Fri, 06 March 2015, 03:57:55
Just received some springs to swap those clears with ;D What are your plans with the clears?Where did you buy springs?
Post by: alex952 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 04:00:49
Just received some springs to swap those clears with ;D What are your plans with the clears?Where did you buy springs?
I got them from ZealPC store. He seems a nice guy and the shipping was truly fast (considering I'm in Europe).
Post by: leandre.north on Fri, 06 March 2015, 04:02:53
Thanks, will check out.Just received some springs to swap those clears with ;D What are your plans with the clears?Where did you buy springs?
I got them from ZealPC store. He seems a nice guy and the shipping was truly fast (considering I'm in Europe).
Post by: toonoobtobereal on Fri, 06 March 2015, 04:15:21
I put in an order for 200 Blacks and 50 Blues!
Post by: totalkrill on Fri, 06 March 2015, 04:24:24
Post by: Hzza on Fri, 06 March 2015, 04:27:43
Post by: awhitedev on Fri, 06 March 2015, 05:15:44
well, it's not exactly $7-8/100. 200 switches is $12 shippingJust as an aside, $24 is a lot for shipping! I don't know how much space 300 switches occupies in loose form but I would imagine it could fit quite nicely in a USPS Flat Rate box.
Regardless, ~$79 is a good price for 3+ keyboards worth of switches and should keep me well occupied. Hell, maybe I'll turn this MX blue Das in to a Gateron Clear Das...
Can't wait to get busy with the iron!
so it seems the $7-8/100 switches in the OP holds true
If I were to send in an invoice for 200 gateron blacks will I be looking at: $0.16*200 + $8*2 + $3.50 (handling) = $51.50?
NVM. I think I answered my own question. Delete me.
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 06 March 2015, 05:56:14
Well done Hwood and Shadovved on organizing this. I might not own an MX board ever again but I may take some switches just in case!
Post by: RavenII on Fri, 06 March 2015, 07:45:33
Just as an aside, $24 is a lot for shipping! I don't know how much space 300 switches occupies in loose form but I would imagine it could fit quite nicely in a USPS Flat Rate box.
Regardless, ~$79 is a good price for 3+ keyboards worth of switches and should keep me well occupied. Hell, maybe I'll turn this MX blue Das in to a Gateron Clear Das...
Can't wait to get busy with the iron!
so it seems the $7-8/100 switches in the OP holds true
If I were to send in a request for 200 gateron blacks will I be looking at: $0.16*200 + $8*2 + $3.50 (handling) = $51.50?
At first I was kinda upset that all the extra fees and such came out towards the end of the GB. But hey, ultimately you've got to realize that it's hwood's first time. At the end of the day, you still can't find a better price. The difference in my order was ~22 usd....
Post by: ideus on Fri, 06 March 2015, 07:48:03
Damn this GB brought a lot of new people to GH! :D
Well done Hwood and Shadovved on organizing this. I might not own an MX board ever again but I may take some switches just in case!
I have noticed that as well, many newcomers that joined for the GB. Well done guys.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 06 March 2015, 07:59:53
Post by: Moderate on Fri, 06 March 2015, 08:09:16
Also thanks hwood34 and Shadovved for running this! :D
Post by: ideus on Fri, 06 March 2015, 08:12:14
Woo, first post! Just making a note that I just put in a form for 100 blacks. It's really quite interesting seeing how the interest in Gaterons has exploded over the last few months.
Also thanks hwood34 and Shadovved for running this! :D
And welcome to geekhack!
Post by: toonoobtobereal on Fri, 06 March 2015, 08:15:03
At first I was kinda upset that all the extra fees and such came out towards the end of the GB. But hey, ultimately you've got to realize that it's hwood's first time. At the end of the day, you still can't find a better price. The difference in my order was ~22 usd....
Haven't seen a lot of extra fees get piled up.
I've been eyeballing this GB from when it started and I've only seen a mention of the handling fee getting bumped a tad (from USD$2.00 to USD$3.50) which is normal, I mean, that's a ^&% load of switches Shadovved will have to go through and mail out to us.
well, it's not exactly $7-8/100. 200 switches is $12 shipping
Postage was always stated as being variable, so if you order tons of them, postage is going to be much, much more of course then ordering 100 or 200 switches.
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 06 March 2015, 09:05:00
...again.
EDIT: PAID!
Post by: Olson.dev on Fri, 06 March 2015, 09:06:33
well, it's not exactly $7-8/100. 200 switches is $12 shippingJust as an aside, $24 is a lot for shipping! I don't know how much space 300 switches occupies in loose form but I would imagine it could fit quite nicely in a USPS Flat Rate box.
Regardless, ~$79 is a good price for 3+ keyboards worth of switches and should keep me well occupied. Hell, maybe I'll turn this MX blue Das in to a Gateron Clear Das...
Can't wait to get busy with the iron!
so it seems the $7-8/100 switches in the OP holds true
If I were to send in an invoice for 200 gateron blacks will I be looking at: $0.16*200 + $8*2 + $3.50 (handling) = $51.50?
Wait, then why am I being charged $23.00 shipping for 280?
Post by: RavenII on Fri, 06 March 2015, 09:16:34
well, it's not exactly $7-8/100. 200 switches is $12 shippingJust as an aside, $24 is a lot for shipping! I don't know how much space 300 switches occupies in loose form but I would imagine it could fit quite nicely in a USPS Flat Rate box.
Regardless, ~$79 is a good price for 3+ keyboards worth of switches and should keep me well occupied. Hell, maybe I'll turn this MX blue Das in to a Gateron Clear Das...
Can't wait to get busy with the iron!
so it seems the $7-8/100 switches in the OP holds true
If I were to send in an invoice for 200 gateron blacks will I be looking at: $0.16*200 + $8*2 + $3.50 (handling) = $51.50?
Wait, then why am I being charged $23.00 shipping for 280?
Because it's Hwood's first GB, it was thrown together just to spite MD and because of that, a LOT of things were over looked. For example, he hadn't taken into account the shipping fee from Gateron TO Shadovved. But, it's all a part of the GB. To be honest, I was expecting to lose my money on this, if I get my switches, I'll be VERY happy.
Edit: Want another oversight? What happens when people don't actually commit? I mean I could have put in an order for 1300 switches, but if I get my invoice and think...."Screw that, I'm not paying that much in shipping" or if I had a specific budget in mind (which I actually did) and back out...and we hit below the 20k mark...what happens then? Does HWood pick up the slack?
Post by: inanis on Fri, 06 March 2015, 09:23:19
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Because it's Hwood's first GB, it was thrown together just to spite MD and because of that, a LOT of things were over looked.
Whoa, whoa, whoa....That statement is not true at all. Hwood had been working on this for a while. This was not something that just was thrown together to spite MD. It might have gone live sooner that originally scheduled, but it was not something that happened overnight.
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 06 March 2015, 09:24:00
Post by: strict on Fri, 06 March 2015, 09:28:05
Because it's Hwood's first GB, it was thrown together just to spite MD and because of that, a LOT of things were over looked. For example, he hadn't taken into account the shipping fee from Gateron TO Shadovved. But, it's all a part of the GB. To be honest, I was expecting to lose my money on this, if I get my switches, I'll be VERY happy.
Edit: Want another oversight? What happens when people don't actually commit? I mean I could have put in an order for 1300 switches, but if I get my invoice and think...."Screw that, I'm not paying that much in shipping" or if I had a specific budget in mind (which I actually did) and back out...and we hit below the 20k mark...what happens then? Does HWood pick up the slack?
So much wrong in this comment. hwood has been working on this for a while now, you need to get your **** straight before you start posting non-sense like this.
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 06 March 2015, 09:40:10
Because it's Hwood's first GB, it was thrown together just to spite MD and because of that, a LOT of things were over looked. For example, he hadn't taken into account the shipping fee from Gateron TO Shadovved. But, it's all a part of the GB. To be honest, I was expecting to lose my money on this, if I get my switches, I'll be VERY happy.
Edit: Want another oversight? What happens when people don't actually commit? I mean I could have put in an order for 1300 switches, but if I get my invoice and think...."Screw that, I'm not paying that much in shipping" or if I had a specific budget in mind (which I actually did) and back out...and we hit below the 20k mark...what happens then? Does HWood pick up the slack?
So much wrong in this comment. hwood has been working on this for a while now, you need to get your **** straight before you start posting non-sense like this.
Hwood put much effort into this, this aint a last minute slip-shod event you looking at here.
We roughly agreed on the shipping rates, but it's not $12 for 200 odd switches
Post by: Paranoid on Fri, 06 March 2015, 09:40:23
Post by: RavenII on Fri, 06 March 2015, 09:43:40
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 06 March 2015, 09:44:14
I PM'd both Shadovved and Hwood to cancel my order and invoice. You guys suck and I don't want to be associated with this any more. Just kidding, I will resubmit a new much larger order, try to help out Swill with the browns especially.Same here! I ordered another 300 Browns!!! LEGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :p
Post by: Olson.dev on Fri, 06 March 2015, 09:46:23
well, it's not exactly $7-8/100. 200 switches is $12 shipping
Wait, then why am I being charged $23.00 shipping for 280?
Because it's Hwood's first GB, it was thrown together just to spite MD and because of that, a LOT of things were over looked. For example, he hadn't taken into account the shipping fee from Gateron TO Shadovved. But, it's all a part of the GB. To be honest, I was expecting to lose my money on this, if I get my switches, I'll be VERY happy.
Edit: Want another oversight? What happens when people don't actually commit? I mean I could have put in an order for 1300 switches, but if I get my invoice and think...."Screw that, I'm not paying that much in shipping" or if I had a specific budget in mind (which I actually did) and back out...and we hit below the 20k mark...what happens then? Does HWood pick up the slack?
Sure, things get overlooked but that still doesn't explain why 40% more switches results in 92% more shipping. Usually shipping costs go down the more you order. I've had several back-and-forth PMs with Shadovved now and I can't wrap my head around how this shipping works. Shadovved has given me very little in way of response and what info he actually did give me conflicts with what Hwood34 just said. I'd like to see more transparency: what are the breakpoints for shipping? Are you only using one box size or doing it on a per-order basis? Providing this information would allow me to optimize my order better for my budget.
Regarding your point about expecting to lose your money... why not just pay the extra $$ for the MD if you had so little confidence?
Right @ oversight example. This expensive/unclear shipping has me calling my own commitment level into question...
Hwood put much effort into this, this aint a last minute slip-shod event you looking at here.
We roughly agreed on the shipping rates, but it's not $12 for 200 odd switches
If so much effort was put in, why aren't you two on the same page?
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 06 March 2015, 09:47:13
I PM'd both Shadovved and Hwood to cancel my order and invoice. You guys suck and I don't want to be associated with this any more. Just kidding, I will resubmit a new much larger order, try to help out Swill with the browns especially.Same here! I ordered another 300 Browns!!! LEGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :p
Love you guys!
Post by: ideus on Fri, 06 March 2015, 09:47:15
For those of us complaining for a few small details, I suggest you to give this a second thought, before writing without enough arguments, facts, and data; and some times even out of context.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 06 March 2015, 09:57:57
Post by: swill on Fri, 06 March 2015, 10:07:00
I PM'd both Shadovved and Hwood to cancel my order and invoice. You guys suck and I don't want to be associated with this any more. Just kidding, I will resubmit a new much larger order, try to help out Swill with the browns especially.Same here! I ordered another 300 Browns!!! LEGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :p
Love you guys!
Me too! :P
Post by: joey on Fri, 06 March 2015, 10:25:56
Doesn't that sound excessive?
Post by: Want on Fri, 06 March 2015, 10:29:27
Post by: evangs on Fri, 06 March 2015, 10:30:39
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 06 March 2015, 10:35:07
Post by: swill on Fri, 06 March 2015, 10:35:57
Apparently my shipping would be 60$.. that's for 100$ of switches.
Doesn't that sound excessive?
Hmmm, wonder what mine will be with over $700 of switches. :P I hope its less than $200. We will see...
Post by: swill on Fri, 06 March 2015, 10:37:23
my shipping was half the cost of my order - $64 for 400 switches (100 of each) and $32 for shipping. that being said 100 bucks for 400 switches seems reasonable
When the switches are really cheap, this is bound to happen. Shipping is never cheap, thats just part of buying stuff online...
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 06 March 2015, 10:37:42
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 06 March 2015, 10:44:32
Apparently my shipping would be 60$.. that's for 100$ of switches.
Doesn't that sound excessive?
$100 worth of switches is 625 switches. Even at $160 for all of them, that's $0.25 a switch, still a damn good price.
As for the shipping cost, that's completely reasonable for the weight of the package. Assuming a similar weight to MX, it should be somewhere between 1400g and 2000g, depending on packaging and switch weight variance. If I remember correctly, Shadovved is shipping out of Singapore. The cheapest shipping via Singapore post works out to $51USD, that's before packaging costs and PayPal fees, which can easily make up most of the difference. There's maybe $1-2 for him sorting everything out for you.
Did it hurt a little when I got hit with a $23 (or something around there) shipping charge on 200 switches and 80 switch tops? It sure did, especially since I'm used to US shipping, but it's a more than reasonable shipping price for the weight and given that it's international.
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 06 March 2015, 10:49:30
ITT: People who have never shipped internationally and who don't understand that there are weight and size limits on different kinds of shipping.Apparently my shipping would be 60$.. that's for 100$ of switches.
Doesn't that sound excessive?
$100 worth of switches is 625 switches. Even at $160 for all of them, that's $0.25 a switch, still a damn good price.
As for the shipping cost, that's completely reasonable for the weight of the package. Assuming a similar weight to MX, it should be somewhere between 1400g and 2000g, depending on packaging and switch weight variance. If I remember correctly, Shadovved is shipping out of Singapore. The cheapest shipping via Singapore post works out to $51USD, that's before packaging costs and PayPal fees, which can easily make up most of the difference. There's maybe $1-2 for him sorting everything out for you.
Did it hurt a little when I got hit with a $23 (or something around there) shipping charge on 200 switches and 80 switch tops? It sure did, especially since I'm used to US shipping, but it's a more than reasonable shipping price for the weight and given that it's international.
When I bought the 300 black Gaterons from Taobao, my proxy charged me ~$35 for shipping (EMS) to me.
Post by: toonoobtobereal on Fri, 06 March 2015, 10:55:13
Shipping was on par with the $8/100 switches, so $20 for shipping for 250 switches. Comes down to €0,248 per switch, so much cheaper than any other option available.
Can't wait for them to get here :)
Post by: Xenocidal on Fri, 06 March 2015, 11:13:42
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 11:16:29
Hwood put much effort into this, this aint a last minute slip-shod event you looking at here.
We roughly agreed on the shipping rates, but it's not $12 for 200 odd switches
If so much effort was put in, why aren't you two on the same page?
I PM'd both Shadovved and Hwood to cancel my order and invoice. You guys suck and I don't want to be associated with this any more. Just kidding, I will resubmit a new much larger order, try to help out Swill with the browns especially.
well, it's not exactly $7-8/100. 200 switches is $Just as an aside, $24 is a lot for shipping! I don't know how much space 300 switches occupies in loose form but I would imagine it could fit quite nicely in a USPS Flat Rate box.
Regardless, ~$79 is a good price for 3+ keyboards worth of switches and should keep me well occupied. Hell, maybe I'll turn this MX blue Das in to a Gateron Clear Das...
Can't wait to get busy with the iron!
so it seems the $7-8/100 switches in the OP holds true
If I were to send in an invoice for 200 gateron blacks will I be looking at: $0.16*200 + $8*2 + $3.50 (handling) = $51.50?1216 shipping
edit: sry typo
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 11:18:27
ITT: People who have never shipped internationally and who don't understand that there are weight and size limits on different kinds of shipping.thisApparently my shipping would be 60$.. that's for 100$ of switches.
Doesn't that sound excessive?
$100 worth of switches is 625 switches. Even at $160 for all of them, that's $0.25 a switch, still a damn good price.
As for the shipping cost, that's completely reasonable for the weight of the package. Assuming a similar weight to MX, it should be somewhere between 1400g and 2000g, depending on packaging and switch weight variance. If I remember correctly, Shadovved is shipping out of Singapore. The cheapest shipping via Singapore post works out to $51USD, that's before packaging costs and PayPal fees, which can easily make up most of the difference. There's maybe $1-2 for him sorting everything out for you.
Did it hurt a little when I got hit with a $23 (or something around there) shipping charge on 200 switches and 80 switch tops? It sure did, especially since I'm used to US shipping, but it's a more than reasonable shipping price for the weight and given that it's international.
Post by: monotagary on Fri, 06 March 2015, 11:35:01
I can't express how thankful I am, and I'm sure all who participated are just as thankful, for the hard work put into this GB.
Post by: Zapheo on Fri, 06 March 2015, 12:02:29
Post by: RavenII on Fri, 06 March 2015, 12:14:05
This doesn't mean that there wasn't planning or effort involved but come on...
1. March 16th payment deadline, transferring the money to Gateron, getting the shipment FROM Gateron to Shadovved, sorting and packaging, and still quote an April 1/2 ship date? Does that actually sound realistic to you guys?
2. 7-8 shipping at first (without stating that it would be more for higher quantities in the first place)? Some people budgeted a certain amount, so now that could potentially lead to a hell of a lot of people changing their orders to stay within their budget...and if you're going to give me that crap about "dude, it's only a few dollars...", sure, I agree, I'll just send you my paypal email and you can pay the difference for me, I mean it's only a couple of dollars, right? Again, what happens if the quantities drop below 20k because of this...?
I love that people keep saying "dude, it's still $.25"...Ok, say you ordered 1300 switches of 1 kind...that's .16 x 1300 = $208+($8*13)(that's the $8 per 100 switches) = 312+3.5 GB fee = 315.5 + 3.9% PP Fee = $327.80/1300 is...YOU GUESSED IT! $.25 but...it's still $228.58 vs $327.80 ($99.22 difference)...even in nubbinator's example of $100 dollars worth of switches, that's $108 vs $160...$52 is $52 either way.
There're a lot of people (like nubbinator) here that know the different customs/methods for shipping in another country. A lot of us are new to group buys (including me), and in the US for example..."if it fits, it ships" :) ...how am I supposed to know what the shipping options are in another country, I honestly thought they had the same thing there...but it turns out they don't.
3. The reason the GB fee went from $2 to $3.5 was because I pointed out (in a PM to hwood) that he might not have considered the cost of shipping TO Shadovved in the .16 price. You're welcome btw...because that would have lead to another adjustment much later down the road than when I pointed it out.
I definitely hope this GB goes through without further bumps, if for no other reason, for swill's sake haha...but seriously? I'd rather all this be worked out now before I submit my money rather than have another GH60 happen.
Post by: swill on Fri, 06 March 2015, 12:16:46
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 12:21:40
1. March 16th payment deadline, transferring the money to Gateron, getting the shipment FROM Gateron to Shadovved, sorting and packaging, and still quote an April 1/2 ship date? Does that actually sound realistic to you guys?That was the quote I was given
2. 7-8 shipping at first (without stating that it would be more for higher quantities in the first place)?
sorry, misread this. It's being discussed
I definitely hope this GB goes through without further bumps, if for no other reason, for swill's sake haha...but seriously? I'd rather all this be worked out now before I submit my money rather than have another GH60 happen.I physically don't see how we could mess up enough to turn this into another GH60 :p
Post by: evangs on Fri, 06 March 2015, 12:23:12
Post by: ideus on Fri, 06 March 2015, 12:24:46
what happened with the GH60?
Nothing that actually could be related with this GB.
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 12:26:44
Can we get an update of the order counts for the different switches? ;)
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Browns: 20,300;)
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Fri, 06 March 2015, 12:29:12
what happened with the GH60?
Better read the GH60 GB topic, it has all the drama involved.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 06 March 2015, 12:32:19
what happened with the GH60?
Better read the GH60 GB topic, it has all the drama involved.
There is no reason to referred that here, it may confuse people not aware of that drama.
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Fri, 06 March 2015, 12:34:54
There is no reason to referred that here, it may confuse people not aware of that drama.
Agreed. And I won't say anything more about it here.
Post by: Willyc277 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 12:37:14
1. March 16th payment deadline, transferring the money to Gateron, getting the shipment FROM Gateron to Shadovved, sorting and packaging, and still quote an April 1/2 ship date? Does that actually sound realistic to you guys?That was the quote I was given2. 7-8 shipping at first (without stating that it would be more for higher quantities in the first place)?The fact that it costs more to ship more stuff just kinda seemed like a common sense thing to me, but just to make sure:anything more will be calculatedI definitely hope this GB goes through without further bumps, if for no other reason, for swill's sake haha...but seriously? I'd rather all this be worked out now before I submit my money rather than have another GH60 happen.I physically don't see how we could mess up enough to turn this into another GH60 :p
You can keep saying that we should have known that shipping would be more expensive for more switches, but originally it was "$7-8 worldwide" with no mention of price hikes for larger quantities. I guess you'll figure it out when you notice how many invoices go unpaid. I know I was pretty shocked to see that my $44 worth of switches cost me $70.
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 12:44:42
well, I edited my post to reflect my confusal of what he was talking about, but I guess my original sentiment stands here. I'm not sure how many people thought that they would still be paying $8 to ship 400 switches from Singapore to Brazil, but, as evidenced by the number of unpaid invoices, it's a very small number1. March 16th payment deadline, transferring the money to Gateron, getting the shipment FROM Gateron to Shadovved, sorting and packaging, and still quote an April 1/2 ship date? Does that actually sound realistic to you guys?That was the quote I was given2. 7-8 shipping at first (without stating that it would be more for higher quantities in the first place)?The fact that it costs more to ship more stuff just kinda seemed like a common sense thing to me, but just to make sure:anything more will be calculatedI definitely hope this GB goes through without further bumps, if for no other reason, for swill's sake haha...but seriously? I'd rather all this be worked out now before I submit my money rather than have another GH60 happen.I physically don't see how we could mess up enough to turn this into another GH60 :p
You can keep saying that we should have known that shipping would be more expensive for more switches, but originally it was "$7-8 worldwide" with no mention of price hikes for larger quantities. I guess you'll figure it out when you notice how many invoices go unpaid. I know I was pretty shocked to see that my $44 worth of switches cost me $70.
Post by: Olson.dev on Fri, 06 March 2015, 12:49:34
2. 7-8 shipping at first (without stating that it would be more for higher quantities in the first place)?The fact that it costs more to ship more stuff just kinda seemed like a common sense thing to me, but just to make sure:anything more will be calculated
I'm not sure that was RavenII's point. Like I said, generally the more you order, the cheaper shipping is per unit.
well, it's not exactly $7-8/100. 200 switches is $1216 shipping
edit: sry typo
Obviously you thought the same. If you had meant to type 16 originally, that statement would've been nonsensical: "well, it's not exactly $7-8/100. 2*(100) switches is 2*($7-8) shipping". Your edit wasn't to fix a typo, it was to make a correction... because you and Shadovved miscommunicated/changed your minds/whatever.
I still think this has the potential to be a great deal for everyone. I just don't like that I'm not making any savings for ordering more than 100 switches. This flat shipping rate hurts people who place larger orders. Every multiple of 100 switches has the exact same $$/switch ratio and it shouldn't.
Post by: toonoobtobereal on Fri, 06 March 2015, 12:56:03
I'm not sure how many people thought that they would still be paying $8 to ship 400 switches from Singapore to Brazil, but, as evidenced by the number of unpaid invoices, it's a very small number
^ that. I took the original statement of $7~8 / 100 switches as "okay, so 200 is ~`$16, 300 is ~$24 etc... seemed utterly logical to me when it concerns shipping internationally, which is all weight-based.
I guess it's the same as when microwave manufacturers 'forget' to specify in the manual "to not put live animals in the unit" they are liable to get sued by people who've microwaved their cats...
So what happens now the Browns have broken the 20k limit? People who already paid their invoices are compensated with the 0.24 vs 0.16 p/switch price difference? *I didn't get any browns, but just curious
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 13:01:50
We have been marking browns as 0.16 for all invoices, so there shouldn't be any need for correctionI'm not sure how many people thought that they would still be paying $8 to ship 400 switches from Singapore to Brazil, but, as evidenced by the number of unpaid invoices, it's a very small numberSo what happens now the Browns have broken the 20k limit? People who already paid their invoices are compensated with the 0.24 vs 0.16 p/switch price difference? *I didn't get any browns, but just curious
Post by: Naed on Fri, 06 March 2015, 13:02:07
200 Clear
200 Brown
50 Black
Post by: mashby on Fri, 06 March 2015, 13:03:07
That being said, I think that the numbers may be throwing people off if you're just looking at the invoice. Seeing that shipping is about one-third of the total cost can be a bit alarming, but if you do the math, I still think this is a good deal.
Assuming shipping is $8 per 100 switches, then that means that it's $0.08 per switch to ship. If the switches are $0.16 each, then with shipping it means we're paying $0.24 per switch. I don't know about you, but that's still a great deal in my book.
Just my two cents. :))
Post by: RavenII on Fri, 06 March 2015, 13:38:16
I'm not sure how many people thought that they would still be paying $8 to ship 400 switches from Singapore to Brazil, but, as evidenced by the number of unpaid invoices, it's a very small number
^ that. I took the original statement of $7~8 / 100 switches as "okay, so 200 is ~`$16, 300 is ~$24 etc... seemed utterly logical to me when it concerns shipping internationally, which is all weight-based.
I guess it's the same as when microwave manufacturers 'forget' to specify in the manual "to not put live animals in the unit" they are liable to get sued by people who've microwaved their cats...
So what happens now the Browns have broken the 20k limit? People who already paid their invoices are compensated with the 0.24 vs 0.16 p/switch price difference? *I didn't get any browns, but just curious
If only we were all as logical as you were. I mean, it's not like there are almost 200 countries in the world...we should all know the standards of shipping just like you do, right? I'd help you get off of your high horse, but...I'm sure your utter logic will help you down.
/s
Not everyone knows these things. It's not common knowledge. Just like if I were to ask you what SWR means...you wouldn't know, but a person into antenna design would.
Another example is the following...
1. March 16th payment deadline, transferring the money to Gateron, getting the shipment FROM Gateron to Shadovved, sorting and packaging, and still quote an April 1/2 ship date? Does that actually sound realistic to you guys?That was the quote I was given
So were we...we were told shipping would be $7-8, right? How is someone supposed to deduce any more details from that? Use all the logic in the world, but the fact of the matter is...it's not so logical when so many people have the same sentiment I do. That's it.
You want to see the lack of communication?
(http://i.imgur.com/zcHEDAN.png)
Tell me again about your logic? I mean, April 1st clearly means 16th, right? It's utterly logical...give me a break. Has your horse gotten a bit shorter yet?
Post by: mecano on Fri, 06 March 2015, 14:03:37
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 14:58:41
I'm not sure how many people thought that they would still be paying $8 to ship 400 switches from Singapore to Brazil, but, as evidenced by the number of unpaid invoices, it's a very small number
^ that. I took the original statement of $7~8 / 100 switches as "okay, so 200 is ~`$16, 300 is ~$24 etc... seemed utterly logical to me when it concerns shipping internationally, which is all weight-based.
I guess it's the same as when microwave manufacturers 'forget' to specify in the manual "to not put live animals in the unit" they are liable to get sued by people who've microwaved their cats...
So what happens now the Browns have broken the 20k limit? People who already paid their invoices are compensated with the 0.24 vs 0.16 p/switch price difference? *I didn't get any browns, but just curious
If only we were all as logical as you were. I mean, it's not like there are almost 200 countries in the world...we should all know the standards of shipping just like you do, right? I'd help you get off of your high horse, but...I'm sure your utter logic will help you down.
/s
Not everyone knows these things. It's not common knowledge. Just like if I were to ask you what SWR means...you wouldn't know, but a person into antenna design would.
Another example is the following...1. March 16th payment deadline, transferring the money to Gateron, getting the shipment FROM Gateron to Shadovved, sorting and packaging, and still quote an April 1/2 ship date? Does that actually sound realistic to you guys?That was the quote I was given
So were we...we were told shipping would be $7-8, right? How is someone supposed to deduce any more details from that? Use all the logic in the world, but the fact of the matter is...it's not so logical when so many people have the same sentiment I do. That's it.
You want to see the lack of communication?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zcHEDAN.png)
Tell me again about your logic? I mean, April 1st clearly means 16th, right? It's utterly logical...give me a break. Has your horse gotten a bit shorter yet?
First off, I'm very sick and on mobile so I'm sorry if this doesn't make any sense. Will do my best to word this correctly.
I understand when you seem to get defensive or have a bit of an attitude when you want to get answers to something that seems unreasonable like the shipping cost.
I don't understand is why you choose to instigate and pick fights with people by giving them an attitude and being rude.
Yea, I'm still debating ordering because of the shipping, and yes, I don't know everything about shipping.
If I have a problem with shipping, I'll inform myself however I can, and if I still feel uncomfortable, I just won't buy.
"Not everyone knows these things. It's not common knowledge. Just like if I were to ask you what SWR means...you wouldn't know, but a person into antenna design would."
If you were to ask what SWR meant and I was BUYING AN ANTENNA, then sure, maybe your example would make sense. No point in brining that up in this case.
Just stop trying to start fights.
Shipping is something not everyone knows everything about, so if you want to know because you are confused on why the cost is what it is, then ask or do some research.
If there is some differences on what is on the form and the OP in terms of shipping dates, so what? Are you in a rush to get these? Are you moving on the 4th and will need to change your address?
If that is the case or not, I understand your concern if it is one.
I'd like to know when this is going to ship, but you can't just come and be like "look at all these 'errors' in this GB. Look! The dates don't match either! They're so bad!"
Again, if it a concern because you have an issue, I understand and you should try and find out if there is a more accurate date. If it isn't, then what is the deal with making a bigger issue than it is.
Just stop trying to start something. If you want to get to the bottom of things and make things clear, do it in a civil manner.
Post by: Natemiester on Fri, 06 March 2015, 15:04:21
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 06 March 2015, 15:09:46
This may have been asked before, but can anyone speak as to how the Gateron browns compare to Cherry Clears? Thanks a bunch for doing this GB.Have you checked the links in the OP regarding the gateron impressions? You might fond your answer there.
Post by: RavenII on Fri, 06 March 2015, 15:14:15
I guess it's the same as when microwave manufacturers 'forget' to specify in the manual "to not put live animals in the unit" they are liable to get sued by people who've microwaved their cats...
If you were to ask what SWR meant and I was BUYING AN ANTENNA, then sure, maybe your example would make sense. No point in brining that up in this case.
Right, so, how many watts is the microwave that you plan on buying?
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 15:16:25
I guess it's the same as when microwave manufacturers 'forget' to specify in the manual "to not put live animals in the unit" they are liable to get sued by people who've microwaved their cats...If you were to ask what SWR meant and I was BUYING AN ANTENNA, then sure, maybe your example would make sense. No point in brining that up in this case.
Right, so, how many watts is the microwave that you plan on buying?
1200 watts. Not buying a new one though.
Now if you have a question that does not pertain to the GB, take it to PMs
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 15:18:01
:confused:I guess it's the same as when microwave manufacturers 'forget' to specify in the manual "to not put live animals in the unit" they are liable to get sued by people who've microwaved their cats...If you were to ask what SWR meant and I was BUYING AN ANTENNA, then sure, maybe your example would make sense. No point in brining that up in this case.
Right, so, how many watts is the microwave that you plan on buying?
Post by: RavenII on Fri, 06 March 2015, 15:18:42
This may have been asked before, but can anyone speak as to how the Gateron browns compare to Cherry Clears? Thanks a bunch for doing this GB.
From what I've gathered from all that I read about them...they're more equal to MX browns than MX Clears. They're definitely not a substitute.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 06 March 2015, 15:35:55
Blah blah blah
Back in the 90's Motley Crüe had a great song that said "Girl, don't go away mad; girl, just go away." I think the same applies here.
You're not doing yourself any favors here. You've said your piece. People get that you think it's unreasonable for you to be expected to know where Singapore is and to be flexible because this is a Group Buy and not a transaction with some store somewhere. That's fine for you to think thus, and also fine for most people to not agree with you.
What's not fine is to come here and be rude and berate people who are serving the community.
If you don't want to pay the shipping fee, cancel your order and don't post here anymore.
Post by: QuiGonJinn on Fri, 06 March 2015, 15:56:55
Post by: awhitedev on Fri, 06 March 2015, 17:10:08
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 06 March 2015, 17:11:03
Juts paid the invoice, thanks for this great GB! Do we know yet which delivery service will be used to post from Singpost? (Just want to estimate how long my wait will be :) )Wouldn't a surprise be nice?
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Fri, 06 March 2015, 17:16:45
Post by: Glod on Fri, 06 March 2015, 17:21:53
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 17:23:54
Juts paid the invoice, thanks for this great GB! Do we know yet which delivery service will be used to post from Singpost? (Just want to estimate how long my wait will be :) )registered airmail
Post by: strict on Fri, 06 March 2015, 17:26:43
Blah blah blah
Back in the 90's Motley Crüe had a great song that said "Girl, don't go away mad; girl, just go away." I think the same applies here.
You're not doing yourself any favors here. You've said your piece. People get that you think it's unreasonable for you to be expected to know where Singapore is and to be flexible because this is a Group Buy and not a transaction with some store somewhere. That's fine for you to think thus, and also fine for most people to not agree with you.
What's not fine is to come here and be rude and berate people who are serving the community.
If you don't want to pay the shipping fee, cancel your order and don't post here anymore.
Well said :thumb:
Post by: toonoobtobereal on Fri, 06 March 2015, 17:31:04
If only we were all as logical as you were. I mean, it's not like there are almost 200 countries in the world...we should all know the standards of shipping just like you do, right? I'd help you get off of your high horse, but...I'm sure your utter logic will help you down.
Sjeez... Angry at the world much?
Not everyone knows these things. It's not common knowledge. Just like if I were to ask you what SWR means...you wouldn't know, but a person into antenna design would.
Shipping is something not everyone knows everything about, so if you want to know because you are confused on why the cost is what it is, then ask or do some research.
Yes there are 200+ countries in the world, each with their own procedures, costs and quirks when it comes to shipping goods. Hell, I live in the south of the Netherlands and if I want to ship something across the border to Belgium (which is a 20 minute car ride away), costs rise exponentially compared to national shipping... Even nationally, if I have a package that weighs even a few grams over 10 kg shipping costs triples compared to something up to 10kg.
It may not be common knowledge, but we live a world where we can communicate without delay across the world, where most of human knowledge is freely available and any form of smut one could ever wish for (and sometimes wish they could unsee) is available. All that is a simple query away. Like asdfjkl36 said, do some research.
we were told shipping would be $7-8, right? How is someone supposed to deduce any more details from that? Use all the logic in the world, but the fact of the matter is...it's not so logical when so many people have the same sentiment I do. That's it.
Expecting that any order would have that shipping is not a lack of knowledge, it's a lack of reading, since the the opening post states it would be $7~$8 per 100 switches.
You want to see the lack of communication?
[ image in original post ]
Tell me again about your logic? I mean, April 1st clearly means 16th, right? It's utterly logical...give me a break. Has your horse gotten a bit shorter yet?
Not particularly fond of horses, I find donkeys to be much more fun, source of endless fun those stubborn f*ckers are.
If hwood34 was told that date by Gateron, then he was told that date by Gateron. If they calculate an extra margin for handling and shipping it out to us, which means it'll ship later, so be it. Rather have them take a little bit longer and do it right instead of rushed to meet some, apparently, "it's-a-dealbreaker-if-you-guys-don't-make-this-promise".
I'd like to know when this is going to ship, but you can't just come and be like "look at all these 'errors' in this GB. Look! The dates don't match either! They're so bad!"
Look at Massdrop, a company which does nothing else but act as proxies for group buys, they can't clearly communicate shipping dates and or corrections on shipping dates. So a couple of guys doing this in their spare time, to help out like-minded people (for which I am very grateful) can't be expected to be flawless at this sh*t either, it ain't easy, you're dealing with companies on the other end of the world, completely different cultures, that **** is hard, like mind-boggingly, "why-the-f-did-I-start-doing-this-again" hard at times.
Just stop trying to start something. If you want to get to the bottom of things and make things clear, do it in a civil manner.
^ that.
1200 watts. Not buying a new one though.
1200 watts will nuke those
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Again, can't wait to greet the postman at my door with a package of clicky goodness that will annoy the girlfriend for years to come :)
Post by: whentheclouds on Fri, 06 March 2015, 17:46:27
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 06 March 2015, 17:49:09
Expecting that any order would have that shipping is not a lack of knowledge, it's a lack of reading, since the the opening post states it would be $7~$8 per 100 switches.I believe that a few days ago it said "Shipping for 0-around 200 switches will be around $7-8 worldwide no matter where since it's being shipped out of Singapore; anything more will be calculated." (emphasis mine)
I ordered 168 switches and got $13 in shipping costs which is $5 more than I expected but because blue switches got subsidized at the same time the total is about what I expected anyway, so I'm good.
Price fluctuations happen sometimes in group buys, and as long as it is not too much and it is stated OK, then that is something that we could live with.
Post by: raginhomosapien on Fri, 06 March 2015, 17:56:43
Got 100 Blues and 100 Browns. :)
Hopefully the blues break 20K before the deadline so we get the discount on them as well.
Post by: whentheclouds on Fri, 06 March 2015, 18:02:37
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 18:07:46
hardwood said he'll buy the rest of Blues required to hit 20k, don't worry about ityessir, though with almost a week left, I'm confident we can hit it.
and p.s. just one "d" ;)
Post by: whentheclouds on Fri, 06 March 2015, 18:20:22
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 18:23:46
whoops sry, i totally meant softwoodcoincidentally, my name for pretty much all of 9th grade
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 06 March 2015, 20:24:26
AKA F**k Off :))Blah blah blah
Back in the 90's Motley Crüe had a great song that said "Girl, don't go away mad; girl, just go away." I think the same applies here.
You're not doing yourself any favors here. You've said your piece. People get that you think it's unreasonable for you to be expected to know where Singapore is and to be flexible because this is a Group Buy and not a transaction with some store somewhere. That's fine for you to think thus, and also fine for most people to not agree with you.
What's not fine is to come here and be rude and berate people who are serving the community.
If you don't want to pay the shipping fee, cancel your order and don't post here anymore.
Post by: XzisT on Fri, 06 March 2015, 21:14:41
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 21:21:40
Post by: dashing_girlboy on Fri, 06 March 2015, 21:24:01
Anyhow, just a question, how is the shipping estimate going to be like if it's local? Same as that of international?
Post by: cmadrid on Fri, 06 March 2015, 21:28:45
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 21:31:51
Haven't joined this GB. Still thinking what switches to get for my upcoming Smallfry JD40(till whoever wants to buy it from me...).If it's very local, he's allowing people to do local pickups. Other than that, I'm not sure about shipping costs within Singapore
Anyhow, just a question, how is the shipping estimate going to be like if it's local? Same as that of international?
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 06 March 2015, 21:35:02
For anyone interested or concerned, I put the shipping pricing guidelines in the OP
Ok thanks. So it's S$70 for up to 300? Did I read that right?
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 21:44:25
sorry, just noticed that. for some reason one of the more expensive ones is highlighted, but I made a note of the service we're usingFor anyone interested or concerned, I put the shipping pricing guidelines in the OP
Ok thanks. So it's S$70 for up to 300? Did I read that right?
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 21:48:30
For anyone interested or concerned, I put the shipping pricing guidelines in the OP
Ok thanks. So it's S$70 for up to 300? Did I read that right?
I think it's the $21.60 from the middle option under "Standard Regular Mail [...] (AIR)"
Edit: Hwood got to you before me :P
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 06 March 2015, 21:54:04
Haven't joined this GB. Still thinking what switches to get for my upcoming Smallfry JD40(till whoever wants to buy it from me...).If it's very local, he's allowing people to do local pickups. Other than that, I'm not sure about shipping costs within Singapore
Anyhow, just a question, how is the shipping estimate going to be like if it's local? Same as that of international?
When you're in Singapore, everything is local. It's 277 sq mi, which mean's it's approximately a 16.75mi x16.75mi area.
Post by: samsonite727 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 21:54:48
I ordered the ergodox from falbatech way to early, oh well. Now just waiting for the invoice, can't wait to get my hands on these switches :p
Post by: dashing_girlboy on Fri, 06 March 2015, 22:15:07
Haven't joined this GB. Still thinking what switches to get for my upcoming Smallfry JD40(till whoever wants to buy it from me...).If it's very local, he's allowing people to do local pickups. Other than that, I'm not sure about shipping costs within Singapore
Anyhow, just a question, how is the shipping estimate going to be like if it's local? Same as that of international?
When you're in Singapore, everything is local. It's 277 sq mi, which mean's it's approximately a 16.75mi x16.75mi area.
hahahahaha! yes indeed. xD although I dont mind local postage.
Post by: Moderate on Sat, 07 March 2015, 00:39:04
And welcome to geekhack!
Thanks ideus! Also, invoice paid. Prices were as expected for 100 switches. :)
Post by: Olson.dev on Sat, 07 March 2015, 01:08:21
sorry, just noticed that. for some reason one of the more expensive ones is highlighted, but I made a note of the service we're usingFor anyone interested or concerned, I put the shipping pricing guidelines in the OP
Ok thanks. So it's S$70 for up to 300? Did I read that right?
Thank you for the guidelines/pointing me in the right direction to answer my questions.
All the prices on singpost.com are in SGD. Shipping 280 keycaps (560g per OP calculation) to the United States costs 20.20 SGD + plus 2.50 SGD for tracking, 22.70 SGD total. Shadovved is charging me for 23.00 for shipping. Okay, rounding up, fine. But, wait, he's charging me 23.00 USD not SGD. What's the conversion rate for SGD to USD? ... Asking Google, 22.70 SGD is 16.47 USD.
Did you guys overlook conversion rates? It makes a pretty big difference.
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 07 March 2015, 01:29:49
TThank you for the guidelines/pointing me in the right direction to answer my questions.
All the prices on singpost.com are in SGD. Shipping 280 keycaps (560g per OP calculation) to the United States costs 20.20 SGD + plus 2.50 SGD for tracking, 22.70 SGD total. Shadovved is charging me for 23.00 for shipping. Okay, rounding up, fine. But, wait, he's charging me 23.00 USD not SGD. What's the conversion rate for SGD to USD? ... Asking Google, 22.70 SGD is 16.47 USD.
Did you guys overlook conversion rates? It makes a pretty big difference.
Alright, since people still don't get shipping, let's work this out.
- Straight shipping cost ~$16.47. Of course, Paypal often lowballs the conversion rate, so it may be closer to $19
- Packaging cost - ~$3. Everyone seems to think that packaging is free. Shadovved has to buy boxes, bubble wrap, tape, labels, and other associated shipping materials. This easily hits $3 a package.
- Paypal fees. Since we're now at ~$20 in shipping cost, we now have to calculate Paypal fees. Paypal is adding a currency conversion fee and their own fee on top of this cost. That works out to ~$1.50-2.
- The total is now at ~$21-22 with materials cost and paypal fees. The additional $1-2 is a sorting fee.
TL;DR: Shipping costs are beyond fair, stop being a ***** and just ****ing pay the man already. Grow the **** up people and realize that shipping international is never going to be $10 unless you get something that's under 4oz.
Edit: Sorry if this offends someone, but I'm just fed up with the bull**** with people *****ing about shipping costs. Just deal with it and move on. Even with the international shipping you're getting a great price on these.
Post by: ImBZppl on Sat, 07 March 2015, 01:38:41
Darn, looks like interest in the blues plateaued and now browns are at 20k. Darn me changing my order to only blues. I don't wanna bug hwood to change my order anymore though. :(
Post by: Willyc277 on Sat, 07 March 2015, 01:51:10
TThank you for the guidelines/pointing me in the right direction to answer my questions.
All the prices on singpost.com are in SGD. Shipping 280 keycaps (560g per OP calculation) to the United States costs 20.20 SGD + plus 2.50 SGD for tracking, 22.70 SGD total. Shadovved is charging me for 23.00 for shipping. Okay, rounding up, fine. But, wait, he's charging me 23.00 USD not SGD. What's the conversion rate for SGD to USD? ... Asking Google, 22.70 SGD is 16.47 USD.
Did you guys overlook conversion rates? It makes a pretty big difference.
Alright, since people still don't get shipping, let's work this out.
- Straight shipping cost ~$16.47. Of course, Paypal often lowballs the conversion rate, so it may be closer to $19
- Packaging cost - ~$3. Everyone seems to think that packaging is free. Shadovved has to buy boxes, bubble wrap, tape, labels, and other associated shipping materials. This easily hits $3 a package.
- Paypal fees. Since we're now at ~$20 in shipping cost, we now have to calculate Paypal fees. Paypal is adding a currency conversion fee and their own fee on top of this cost. That works out to ~$1.50-2.
- The total is now at ~$21-22 with materials cost and paypal fees. The additional $1-2 is a sorting fee.
TL;DR: Shipping costs are beyond fair, stop being a ***** and just ****ing pay the man already. Grow the **** up people and realize that shipping international is never going to be $10 unless you get something that's under 4oz.
Edit: Sorry if this offends someone, but I'm just fed up with the bull**** with people *****ing about shipping costs. Just deal with it and move on. Even with the international shipping you're getting a great price on these.
That's nice and all, but the op said $7-8 shipping worldwide with no mention of variable rates or tracking fees. We were also charged the paypal fee so you can edit that bit out.
When you buy your tampons at wally-world they don't double the advertised price and tell you to get f***ed when you ask about it.
Post by: whentheclouds on Sat, 07 March 2015, 01:51:46
Around 20 for international shipping looks pretty normal.
Darn, looks like interest in the blues plateaued and now browns are at 20k. Darn me changing my order to only blues. I don't wanna bug hwood to change my order anymore though. :(
might be reading your post wrong, but it's been mentioned before that blues WILL be $0.16/switch, so don't worry about what the current count is. also if you have a valid reason for changing your order, just go ahead and ask him. i'm sure he'll accommodate
Post by: Olson.dev on Sat, 07 March 2015, 01:55:34
Thank you for the guidelines/pointing me in the right direction to answer my questions.
All the prices on singpost.com are in SGD. Shipping 280 keycaps (560g per OP calculation) to the United States costs 20.20 SGD + plus 2.50 SGD for tracking, 22.70 SGD total. Shadovved is charging me for 23.00 for shipping. Okay, rounding up, fine. But, wait, he's charging me 23.00 USD not SGD. What's the conversion rate for SGD to USD? ... Asking Google, 22.70 SGD is 16.47 USD.
Did you guys overlook conversion rates? It makes a pretty big difference.
Alright, since people still don't get shipping, let's work this out.
- Straight shipping cost ~$16.47. Of course, Paypal often lowballs the conversion rate, so it may be closer to $19
- Packaging cost - ~$3. Everyone seems to think that packaging is free. Shadovved has to buy boxes, bubble wrap, tape, labels, and other associated shipping materials. This easily hits $3 a package.
- Paypal fees. Since we're now at ~$20 in shipping cost, we now have to calculate Paypal fees. Paypal is adding a currency conversion fee and their own fee on top of this cost. That works out to ~$1.50-2.
- The total is now at ~$21-22 with materials cost and paypal fees. The additional $1-2 is a sorting fee.
TL;DR: Shipping costs are beyond fair, stop being a ***** and just ****ing pay the man already. Grow the **** up people and realize that shipping international is never going to be $10 unless you get something that's under 4oz.
Packaging cost, fair - put it in the guideline then. However, your assertion it easily hits $3.00/package is bull****. They're going with "Standard Regular Mail - Letters/Printed Papers/Small Packets (AIR)" which limits them to padded envelopes. USPS provides those for free as part of the cost. SingPost may not provide the same service but Amazon tells me I can get 100 of them for $10. No tape necessary. No paper. No scissors, even. Labels are a convenience, sure, but they're hardly $3.00/package.
PayPal fees are listed in a separate line item on my invoice. They're a flat 3.9%. They're not applied to the shipping/handling. Do the math:
Quote
Subtotal $48.30
Shipping/handling $23.00
PayPal Fee (3.9%) $2.79
Total $74.09 USD
The additional $1-2 is a sorting fee? Also bull****; increase the GB Fee if that's the case. Don't pad the shipping cost.
You don't seem to be the expert you claim to be so your assertion shipping costs are beyond fair is moot.
Irony: calling people a ***** and telling them to grow the **** up. I'm just asking questions, man. We'll get this **** resolved before the deadline. Calm your tits, you'll get your switches.
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 07 March 2015, 02:00:50
That's nice and all, but the op said $7-8 shipping worldwide with no mention of variable rates or tracking fees. We were also charged the paypal fee so you can edit that bit out.
When you buy your tampons at wally-world they don't double the advertised price and tell you to get f***ed when you ask about it.
It originally said $7-8 per 100 switches. Let's see, 2.8*$7 = $19.60 + $2.50 tracking = $22.10. 2.8*$8 = $22.40 +$2.50 tracking = $25.90. Average them and it's $24. That's more than the $23 being charged.
If you thought it would be $7-8 to ship more than 200 switches, two things happened. First, you had poor reading comprehension. Second, you had to think you were getting the deal of the century. I have never in my life had something that weighed more than 2oz cost more $8 or less to ship internationally. Anything over 2oz is a minimum of $15.
Post by: Willyc277 on Sat, 07 March 2015, 02:09:42
That's nice and all, but the op said $7-8 shipping worldwide with no mention of variable rates or tracking fees. We were also charged the paypal fee so you can edit that bit out.
When you buy your tampons at wally-world they don't double the advertised price and tell you to get f***ed when you ask about it.
It originally said $7-8 per 100 switches. Let's see, 2.8*$7 = $19.60 + $2.50 tracking = $22.10. 2.8*$8 = $22.40 +$2.50 tracking = $25.90. Average them and it's $24. That's more than the $23 being charged.
If you thought it would be $7-8 to ship more than 200 switches, two things happened. First, you had poor reading comprehension. Second, you had to think you were getting the deal of the century. I have never in my life had something that weighed more than 2oz cost more $8 or less to ship internationally. Anything over 2oz is a minimum of $15.
Too tired to upload images right now. Search for shipping and go to the second to last page. The original post said "shipping will be around $7-8 worldwide"
Idgaf if you think it's silly to assume that shipping would be that cheap. When I read that shipping will be "$7-8 worldwide" I expect it to be $7-8. OP dropped the ball on pricing. There was ZERO mention of variable rates and tracking fees in the original post. Kind of like how he didn't think of the cost of getting them shipped to him. This has been a complete s***show for the last few days. There's a reason why so many members have voiced negative opinions.
At this point the GH band of brothers always comes out and says "lol you only have 12 posts, f*** your opinion and go back to r/mk." This is the BS everyone was talking about in the live chat last weekend.
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 07 March 2015, 02:11:07
Packaging cost, fair - put it in the guideline then. However, your assertion it easily hits $3.00/package is bull****. They're going with "Standard Regular Mail - Letters/Printed Papers/Small Packets (AIR)" which limits them to padded envelopes.
If you think more than 200 switches will fit in a small padded envelope, I have some bad news for you. They're shipping with the cheapest available option with tracking.
USPS provides those for free as part of the cost. SingPost may not provide the same service but Amazon tells me I can get 100 of them for $10. No tape necessary. No paper. No scissors, even. Labels are a convenience, sure, but they're hardly $3.00/package.
There will need to be many sizes of envelopes and boxes, whatever they're shipped in. Envelopes are $0.50-1 and boxes are the same. Packaging is another $1-2. Labels are $0.50. If you say bugger that, just use paper and tape, well, the price is about the same.
PayPal fees are listed in a separate line item on my invoice. They're a flat 3.9%.
Fair enough.
The additional $1-2 is a sorting fee? Also bull****; increase the GB Fee if that's the case. Don't pad the shipping cost.
You've obviously never taken part in a group buy. A vast majority have a handling fee. You honestly cannot expect someone to sort 60,000 switches and take them to the post office for free. Even if they make $2 a package, that's a pittance for the amount of work.
You don't seem to be the expert you claim to be so your assertion shipping costs are beyond fair is moot.
Considering that I've run my own successful GB and regularly ship stuff to people, I think I have a good idea.
Irony: calling people a ***** and telling them to grow the **** up. I'm just asking questions, man. We'll get this **** resolved before the deadline. Calm your tits, you'll get your switches.
You're not asking questions, you're throwing a fit that the prices are more than you expected. Questions take this form:
"Hey, shipping was a bit more than I expected, could you lay out why it costs x?"
Instead you immediately went on the warpath.
Post by: Willyc277 on Sat, 07 March 2015, 02:12:57
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Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 07 March 2015, 02:16:40
There's a reason why so many members have voiced negative opinions.
The only ones who have voiced negative opinions are those who thought they were going to get shipping for a song and want the GB runner to eat the cost so they can get it even cheaper. Anyone who has been here for any amount of time understands the shipping cost.
At this point the GH band of brothers always comes out and says "lol you only have 12 posts, f*** your opinion and go back to r/mk." This is the BS everyone was talking about in the live chat last weekend.
I never do that, but, boy, your post is making me want to. There have been way too many posts lately of people being way too eager to rip people off.
I'm sorry you misunderstood the OP, but if you honestly thought you would get 500 switches shipped for $8, you are delusional. You'd have a hard time shipping it for that price within the US, so why would you be able to get a cheaper international shipping rate?
Please show me where it says anything about "per 100 switches" or a tracking fee for that matter. Time to bow out, Nubs.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FUCTnYI.png)
Edited OP post is edited. You can't show anything from an edited quote.
I'm done with this argument though. It's counterproductive. I'm sorry some people thought shipping would be less. International shipping for packages over 2-4oz is expensive, deal with it. It's still cheaper than most MX switches and I'm pretty sure it's cheaper than MD still. Shadovved is a great guy and will get everything out quickly and hwood is not raping your wallets.
Post by: Cottonsox on Sat, 07 March 2015, 02:40:05
There's a reason why so many members have voiced negative opinions.
The only ones who have voiced negative opinions are those who thought they were going to get shipping for a song and want the GB runner to eat the cost so they can get it even cheaper. Anyone who has been here for any amount of time understands the shipping cost.
Not Entirely true, i voiced my concern in the switch tops thread because i have been charged 2 vastly different shipping costs between the GB's.
For this i was charge ruoghly $17 USD + Fees for 300 Switches
For 250 Clear Switch Tops $18 + Fees USD
I am not sure where the cost of packaging are being weighted into, but Hwood from my knowledge was not cross referencing with the other GB when he put out invoices so i assume he was accounting for some packaging costs.
Regardless. I am not sure how 250 Switch tops can come out close to 300 Switches in Mailing costs. They are less then half the weight and bulk. i was hazard a guess without doing any actual checking of weights they would be close to a third of the weight.
Now I am not concerned over the price of my invoices, but the difference in the two invoices I received is something that doesn't seem right to me, and i feel that some people might be wondering the same..
Post by: Olson.dev on Sat, 07 March 2015, 02:44:45
If you think more than 200 switches will fit in a small padded envelope, I have some bad news for you. They're shipping with the cheapest available option with tracking.
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There will need to be many sizes of envelopes and boxes, whatever they're shipped in. Envelopes are $0.50-1 and boxes are the same. Packaging is another $1-2. Labels are $0.50. If you say bugger that, just use paper and tape, well, the price is about the same.
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Fair enough.
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You've obviously never taken part in a group buy. A vast majority have a handling fee. You honestly cannot expect someone to sort 60,000 switches and take them to the post office for free. Even if they make $2 a package, that's a pittance for the amount of work.
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Considering that I've run my own successful GB and regularly ship stuff to people, I think I have a good idea.
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You're not asking questions, you're throwing a fit that the prices are more than you expected. Questions take this form:
"Hey, shipping was a bit more than I expected, could you lay out why it costs x?"
Instead you immediately went on the warpath.
I didn't say anything about a small padded envelope. However, hwood34 did state they'd be using a specific shipping method... one that does not permit boxes: "Standard Regular Mail - Letters/Printed Papers/Small Packets (AIR)"
Don't tell me envelopes cost $0.50-1.00... I just told you I could get 100 of them for $10. Not the small kind. "Packaging is another $1-2" -- I'm assuming you're talking about using tape for boxes. Are you planning on using a roll of tape per box or what? ... I can get 200 labels on Amazon for $10: $0.05/package, not $0.50. There wouldn't even be a need for paper and tape; here's an idea: write directly on the envelope.
How do you figure I didn't consider the handling fee? As I suggested, increase the "GB Fee" ... don't inflate the Shipping cost. I didn't say anything about Shadovved's work being free; yes, he should be compensated for his time and effort. Just itemize it properly.
You THINK you have a good idea but you don't considering you got the shipping method, packaging supplies, and how PayPal fees are calculated wrong. "Sorry, I don't mean to offend" you, just stating facts.
I didn't go on a warpath. I asked questions of Shadovved via PM. He didn't answer me very well / at all. So, I brought them to the forum, simply stating my questions were unsatisfactorily answered. Suggesting they neglected conversion rates isn't going on the warpath either. Being rude to you, yeah, sure, maybe... but it was in retaliation for you calling me a *****.
I'm done with this argument though. It's counterproductive. I'm sorry some people thought shipping would be less. International shipping for packages over 2-4oz is expensive, deal with it. It's still cheaper than most MX switches and I'm pretty sure it's cheaper than MD still. Shadovved is a great guy and will get everything out quickly and hwood is not raping your wallets.
I still think it should be less. But for different reasons now: now I can calculate their cost so I don't have to wonder. The last question I have is about the conversion rates.
I'm not trying to rip off hwood34 or Shadovved from their hard work. I just want transparent, itemized pricing. For their work, they get payment in the form of "GB Fee". If they wanted to charge more for the GB Fee, fine, just tell us about it. Don't try to bundle it in shipping costs.
Post by: tbc on Sat, 07 March 2015, 02:48:51
The only ones who have voiced negative opinions are those who thought they were going to get shipping for a song and want the GB runner to eat the cost so they can get it even cheaper. Anyone who has been here for any amount of time understands the shipping cost.
ding ding ding
if you're not willing to put up with surprises...just don't join GBs.
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 07 March 2015, 02:54:38
nobody here owes you anything. kick rocks
with love
"GH band of brothers"
Post by: Olson.dev on Sat, 07 March 2015, 03:02:51
don't pay the invoice! problem solved!
nobody here owes you anything. kick rocks
If it comes down to it, I won't. I never suggested anyone here owes me anything. I asked questions.
I didn't realize the GB community was so adverse to the concept of asking questions. Sorry.
EDIT: I'd like to pay the invoice. Well, I'd like to pay an invoice I understand rather. Just curious about conversion rates is all.
Post by: tbc on Sat, 07 March 2015, 03:04:40
don't pay the invoice! problem solved!
nobody here owes you anything. kick rocks
with love
"GH band of brothers"
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Post by: asdfjkl36 on Sat, 07 March 2015, 03:10:18
Too tired to upload images right now. Search for shipping and go to the second to last page. The original post said "shipping will be around $7-8 worldwide"
Idgaf if you think it's silly to assume that shipping would be that cheap. When I read that shipping will be "$7-8 worldwide" I expect it to be $7-8. OP dropped the ball on pricing. There was ZERO mention of variable rates and tracking fees in the original post. Kind of like how he didn't think of the cost of getting them shipped to him. This has been a complete s***show for the last few days. There's a reason why so many members have voiced negative opinions.
At this point the GH band of brothers always comes out and says "lol you only have 12 posts, f*** your opinion and go back to r/mk." This is the BS everyone was talking about in the live chat last weekend.
Okay. Sure this could have been a bit more thought out when wording everything and taking to account everything, but it wasn't, sorry.
Even if the ball was dropped on shipping in terms of mentioning there may be an increase in pricing when ordering more, no reason to make a HUGE deal of it and continue to fight about it with other members of GH.
Yea, it sucks to kind of be hit with all of the "additional" costs with shipping, but these are things that should have already been added to the original price of shipping/GB fees/whatever.
As for the "band of brothers" I have no real position here on GH. No "friends" / "buddies" / "brothers" so I have no ties to backing up anyone on whatever they say.
You have a valid point in the fact that things didnt go smooth and should have been more thought out. But we cant change that.
What we can do is ask questions, in a civil manner, and find out how the cost breaks down into and what YOUR money is going to. You have the right to know.
No reason to just fight over these questions with someone who is trying to help make sense of it all.
It's getting a bit tense with all the shipping confusion, so yea, i understand the attitude toward it right now but cmon guys.
I'm not trying to rip off hwood34 or Shadovved from their hard work. I just want transparent, itemized pricing. For their work, they get payment in the form of "GB Fee". If they wanted to charge more for the GB Fee, fine, just tell us about it. Don't try to bundle it in shipping costs.
And i' agree with you. None of us want to rip anyone off from their hard work. We should get CLEAR explanation of how the costs are being calculated and what it actually breaks down to.
I think this will solve the confusion and put to rest the unease people have when committing to the GB.
Once cleared up, people will feel better about paying all the additional costs since they'll know where their money is going to.
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 07 March 2015, 03:27:58
It's not the questions, it's the "I didn't get an answer right away so let me get my pitch fork" tone you have.don't pay the invoice! problem solved!
nobody here owes you anything. kick rocks
If it comes down to it, I won't. I never suggested anyone here owes me anything. I asked questions.
I didn't realize the GB community was so adverse to the concept of asking questions. Sorry.
EDIT: I'd like to pay the invoice. Well, I'd like to pay an invoice I understand rather. Just curious about conversion rates is all.
And try to remember that GB organizers get x100 PMs most people get... it's not easy to juggle all of that.
sit back, take a deep breath and see what they have to say.
Post by: Olson.dev on Sat, 07 March 2015, 03:52:35
It's not the questions, it's the "I didn't get an answer right away so let me get my pitch fork" tone you have.
And try to remember that GB organizers get x100 PMs most people get... it's not easy to juggle all of that.
sit back, take a deep breath and see what they have to say.
You misconstrue my tone; sorry you think I'm wielding a pitchfork. I asked Shadovved for clarification a few times via PM and was basically ignored each time. That is, he replied to my messages but neglected to address certain parts or didn't give concrete information. I understand Shadovved is busy with all kinds of PMs and can't reply in detail to every PM he gets, so I went to the forums to read up. I was about to pay till what information Shadovved gave me conflicted with what hwood34 posted: that it costs $12 for 200 switches (which he later corrected to $16... which is still possibly not right).
The deadline is a ways out; I'm not impatient for the answers. Never once did I imply I need them ASAP. Quite the opposite:
...
I'm just asking questions, man. We'll get this **** resolved before the deadline.
...
I don't have a pitchfork. I'm sitting back, calm, waiting patiently.
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 07 March 2015, 04:04:31
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 07 March 2015, 04:10:47
Post by: Dihedral on Sat, 07 March 2015, 04:31:45
Can someone pass me some popcorn? :))
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Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 07 March 2015, 07:09:09
1) Miscommunication between hwood and myself, he charged shipping that's slightly lower for those people that he invoiced, resulting in the differences between both our invoices. He will be rectifying that soon, by asking people to top up the difference. You can reduce your order if you desire, he should be able to handle it for you.
2) I am shipping via Intl Air Packets (airmail, contary to what you read, they allow boxes) + registered mail (aka tracking & signature required on receipt, which costs +2.5/package), and they do not allow packages larger than 2kg, hence many of those who ordered larger quantities have been billed WITHOUT shipping, because the price estimates go haywire after 2kg, and I'll need to go get the exact prices for the best way to send them their items.
3) Shipping costs include costs of materials as well, bubble wrap, ziplock bags, boxes (I'm getting the thick walled ones so they don't dent/crush during shipping, and NO I'M NOT USING BUBBLE MAILERS), tape, shipping labels etc etc, and any additional costs to travel and source for the stuffs and ship them (it is insignificant, but since people wanted to be clear, I had to mention. Or people will think that petrol comes free from wells in Singapore). The small difference will also buffer in case the packaging jacks up the cost of shipping, they weigh quite a bit together as well.
4) GB fee includes a $2 tip for us per order for sorting and packaging services, and the other 1.5 is for consolidated shipping from Gateron to Singapore for the switches and the 7% customs charges I'll get for importing the switches.
5) Please also bear in mind the 4% PayPal fee and currency conversion, banks don't use the Google rates.
6) The price you pay on your invoice includes everything above, I used to do GBs and ship stuff frequently, so I know most of the things that I need to include in my bills from the start, so they might look abit more than expected. BUT you do not have to worry about me slapping on additional charges when it's time to ship the packages, which you might have seen on other GBs.
EDIT: Before you think that the price is outrageous for such a cheap item, go quantify it by looking at a baggie of your own switches lying around. The percentage of the shipping might be really large in the invoice, but when you divide it out the cost becomes more realistic.
Any other burning questions?
Post by: Fire Brand on Sat, 07 March 2015, 07:29:16
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 07 March 2015, 07:35:36
Ohh ohh I have one question what will the packages be marked at as you know the UK has some crazy customs fees sometime should will they be marked lower? Not hugely fussed if you can't as I understand doing that would be illegal in some places :x
Because I'm a nice and friendly person :D Every package I send to people are gifts to them......usually worth around $20, unless the package contains too much stuff that I might have to increase the value slightly.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 07 March 2015, 07:50:52
Okay. Civil people. Here's listing down some answers I've summarised from pages of posts.......
1) Miscommunication between hwood and myself, he charged shipping that's slightly lower for those people that he invoiced, resulting in the differences between both our invoices. He will be rectifying that soon, by asking people to top up the difference. You can reduce your order if you desire, he should be able to handle it for you.
2) I am shipping via Intl Air Packets (airmail, contary to what you read, they allow boxes) + registered mail (aka tracking & signature required on receipt, which costs +2.5/package), and they do not allow packages larger than 2kg, hence many of those who ordered larger quantities have been billed WITHOUT shipping, because the price estimates go haywire after 2kg, and I'll need to go get the exact prices for the best way to send them their items.
3) Shipping costs include costs of materials as well, bubble wrap, ziplock bags, boxes (I'm getting the thick walled ones so they don't dent/crush during shipping, and NO I'M NOT USING BUBBLE MAILERS), tape, shipping labels etc etc, and any additional costs to travel and source for the stuffs and ship them (it is insignificant, but since people wanted to be clear, I had to mention. Or people will think that petrol comes free from wells in Singapore). The small difference will also buffer in case the packaging jacks up the cost of shipping, they weigh quite a bit together as well.
4) GB fee includes a $2 tip for us per order for sorting and packaging services, and the other 1.5 is for consolidated shipping from Gateron to Singapore for the switches and the 7% customs charges I'll get for importing the switches.
5) Please also bear in mind the 4% PayPal fee and currency conversion, banks don't use the Google rates.
6) The price you pay on your invoice includes everything above, I used to do GBs and ship stuff frequently, so I know most of the things that I need to include in my bills from the start, so they might look abit more than expected. BUT you do not have to worry about me slapping on additional charges when it's time to ship the packages, which you might have seen on other GBs.
Any other burning questions?
Thanks for posting this.
Post by: vindaon on Sat, 07 March 2015, 07:53:04
So if you're complaining about shipping being higher than expected and don't wanna pay the invoice that's your choice. You wanna go buy somewhere else only to find it's more expensive to buy the same amount of switches that's your choice. But I think you're shooting yourself in the foot. My $.02 (+ .01 posting cost)
Post by: awhitedev on Sat, 07 March 2015, 08:05:50
Okay. Civil people. Here's listing down some answers I've summarised from pages of posts.......
1) Miscommunication between hwood and myself, he charged shipping that's slightly lower for those people that he invoiced, resulting in the differences between both our invoices. He will be rectifying that soon, by asking people to top up the difference. You can reduce your order if you desire, he should be able to handle it for you.
2) I am shipping via Intl Air Packets (airmail, contary to what you read, they allow boxes) + registered mail (aka tracking & signature required on receipt, which costs +2.5/package), and they do not allow packages larger than 2kg, hence many of those who ordered larger quantities have been billed WITHOUT shipping, because the price estimates go haywire after 2kg, and I'll need to go get the exact prices for the best way to send them their items.
3) Shipping costs include costs of materials as well, bubble wrap, ziplock bags, boxes (I'm getting the thick walled ones so they don't dent/crush during shipping, and NO I'M NOT USING BUBBLE MAILERS), tape, shipping labels etc etc, and any additional costs to travel and source for the stuffs and ship them (it is insignificant, but since people wanted to be clear, I had to mention. Or people will think that petrol comes free from wells in Singapore). The small difference will also buffer in case the packaging jacks up the cost of shipping, they weigh quite a bit together as well.
4) GB fee includes a $2 tip for us per order for sorting and packaging services, and the other 1.5 is for consolidated shipping from Gateron to Singapore for the switches and the 7% customs charges I'll get for importing the switches.
5) Please also bear in mind the 4% PayPal fee and currency conversion, banks don't use the Google rates.
6) The price you pay on your invoice includes everything above, I used to do GBs and ship stuff frequently, so I know most of the things that I need to include in my bills from the start, so they might look abit more than expected. BUT you do not have to worry about me slapping on additional charges when it's time to ship the packages, which you might have seen on other GBs.
Any other burning questions?
I always appreciate the details. Thank you for posting this. I think this will help people understand the shipping cost.
Also - I'm not sure if everyone gets this... but even with the higher shipping charges you're still getting these switches for less than Massdrop.
For a total of 370 switches / clear tops my invoice broke down like this:
$62.70 goods + $3.50 GB Fee + $26.00 Shipping + $3.46 PP = $92.16
$92.16 / 370 = $.25 per switch to your door
At MD it was something like this for 360 switches:
$104.97 goods + $10 (maybe it was 11?) Shipping = $114.97
$114.97 / 360 = $.32 per switch to your door
EDIT: As Shadovved just pointed out... the $10 or $11 I would've paid for shipping is only US. It would have most likely been much higher for Intl folks.
Plus... with this GB you have the flexibility of getting the exact number of switches you want and getting clear switch tops. You're not limited to getting 120 of each switch type minimum.
Just my two cents...
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 07 March 2015, 08:05:59
Lotta drama over shipping prices. Looks like shadovved addressed most of it. Gotta admit, when I first saw shipping cost I was surprised. But the thing is, even factoring in shipping costs, this is still one of the cheapest option you have to buy Gaterons.
So if you're complaining about shipping being higher than expected and don't wanna pay the invoice that's your choice. You wanna go buy somewhere else only to find it's more expensive to buy the same amount of switches that's your choice. But I think you're shooting yourself in the foot. My $.02 (+ .01 posting cost)
Thanks for reminding me, I edited that in as well.
This percentage thingy was a great concern as well.
And yes, please remember than MD shipping is for CONUS, not Intl.
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 07 March 2015, 08:13:21
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Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 07 March 2015, 08:17:55
At least everything get sorted out for the better.I lold for realShow Image(http://ragefaces.memesoftware.com/faces/large/fap-now-kiss-l.png)
Post by: slickmamba on Sat, 07 March 2015, 08:34:09
Hold me nubbs
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 07 March 2015, 08:38:52
At least everything get sorted out for the better.Show Image(http://ragefaces.memesoftware.com/faces/large/fap-now-kiss-l.png)
I'm in the bathroom and lol'd.
Post by: LXXXIX on Sat, 07 March 2015, 08:40:16
Good luck guys!
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 07 March 2015, 09:34:43
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 07 March 2015, 09:39:53
Around 20 for international shipping looks pretty normal.bug me as much as you want ;)
Darn, looks like interest in the blues plateaued and now browns are at 20k. Darn me changing my order to only blues. I don't wanna bug hwood to change my order anymore though. :(
Post by: Olson.dev on Sat, 07 March 2015, 11:13:45
Okay. Civil people. Here's listing down some answers I've summarised from pages of posts.......
1) Miscommunication between hwood and myself, he charged shipping that's slightly lower for those people that he invoiced, resulting in the differences between both our invoices. He will be rectifying that soon, by asking people to top up the difference. You can reduce your order if you desire, he should be able to handle it for you.
2) I am shipping via Intl Air Packets (airmail, contary to what you read, they allow boxes) + registered mail (aka tracking & signature required on receipt, which costs +2.5/package), and they do not allow packages larger than 2kg, hence many of those who ordered larger quantities have been billed WITHOUT shipping, because the price estimates go haywire after 2kg, and I'll need to go get the exact prices for the best way to send them their items.
3) Shipping costs include costs of materials as well, bubble wrap, ziplock bags, boxes (I'm getting the thick walled ones so they don't dent/crush during shipping, and NO I'M NOT USING BUBBLE MAILERS), tape, shipping labels etc etc, and any additional costs to travel and source for the stuffs and ship them (it is insignificant, but since people wanted to be clear, I had to mention. Or people will think that petrol comes free from wells in Singapore). The small difference will also buffer in case the packaging jacks up the cost of shipping, they weigh quite a bit together as well.
4) GB fee includes a $2 tip for us per order for sorting and packaging services, and the other 1.5 is for consolidated shipping from Gateron to Singapore for the switches and the 7% customs charges I'll get for importing the switches.
5) Please also bear in mind the 4% PayPal fee and currency conversion, banks don't use the Google rates.
6) The price you pay on your invoice includes everything above, I used to do GBs and ship stuff frequently, so I know most of the things that I need to include in my bills from the start, so they might look abit more than expected. BUT you do not have to worry about me slapping on additional charges when it's time to ship the packages, which you might have seen on other GBs.
EDIT: Before you think that the price is outrageous for such a cheap item, go quantify it by looking at a baggie of your own switches lying around. The percentage of the shipping might be really large in the invoice, but when you divide it out the cost becomes more realistic.
Any other burning questions?
Thanks for answering my burning questions. I'm supposed to kiss you now, I guess. :-*
Just one comment: Banks might not use Google rates but PayPal and Google are reasonably close:
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So, PayPal is 1 SGD : 1.34490066632 USD. Or 1 USD : 0.74354933791 SGD.
Whereas Google suggested 1 SGD : 1.37809911926 USD. Or 1 USD : 0.725637210 SGD.
Post by: joey on Sat, 07 March 2015, 11:15:03
Invoice paid, thanks hwood and Shadovved.
Post by: Fire Brand on Sat, 07 March 2015, 11:27:04
^_^ thank youOhh ohh I have one question what will the packages be marked at as you know the UK has some crazy customs fees sometime should will they be marked lower? Not hugely fussed if you can't as I understand doing that would be illegal in some places :x
Because I'm a nice and friendly person :D Every package I send to people are gifts to them......usually worth around $20, unless the package contains too much stuff that I might have to increase the value slightly.
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Sat, 07 March 2015, 14:19:02
Thanks for taking the time to clear everything up :)
Post by: samsonite727 on Sat, 07 March 2015, 14:22:23
Okay. Civil people. Here's listing down some answers I've summarised from pages of posts.......
1) Miscommunication between hwood and myself, he charged shipping that's slightly lower for those people that he invoiced, resulting in the differences between both our invoices. He will be rectifying that soon, by asking people to top up the difference. You can reduce your order if you desire, he should be able to handle it for you.
2) I am shipping via Intl Air Packets (airmail, contary to what you read, they allow boxes) + registered mail (aka tracking & signature required on receipt, which costs +2.5/package), and they do not allow packages larger than 2kg, hence many of those who ordered larger quantities have been billed WITHOUT shipping, because the price estimates go haywire after 2kg, and I'll need to go get the exact prices for the best way to send them their items.
3) Shipping costs include costs of materials as well, bubble wrap, ziplock bags, boxes (I'm getting the thick walled ones so they don't dent/crush during shipping, and NO I'M NOT USING BUBBLE MAILERS), tape, shipping labels etc etc, and any additional costs to travel and source for the stuffs and ship them (it is insignificant, but since people wanted to be clear, I had to mention. Or people will think that petrol comes free from wells in Singapore). The small difference will also buffer in case the packaging jacks up the cost of shipping, they weigh quite a bit together as well.
4) GB fee includes a $2 tip for us per order for sorting and packaging services, and the other 1.5 is for consolidated shipping from Gateron to Singapore for the switches and the 7% customs charges I'll get for importing the switches.
5) Please also bear in mind the 4% PayPal fee and currency conversion, banks don't use the Google rates.
6) The price you pay on your invoice includes everything above, I used to do GBs and ship stuff frequently, so I know most of the things that I need to include in my bills from the start, so they might look abit more than expected. BUT you do not have to worry about me slapping on additional charges when it's time to ship the packages, which you might have seen on other GBs.
EDIT: Before you think that the price is outrageous for such a cheap item, go quantify it by looking at a baggie of your own switches lying around. The percentage of the shipping might be really large in the invoice, but when you divide it out the cost becomes more realistic.
Any other burning questions?
Just a heads up, if you have credit card linked to your paypal account you can change the conversion option so that card issuer will determine the foreign exchange rate instead of paypal.
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 07 March 2015, 15:28:17
Holy crap the drama here is real.im going back to the clear tops thread.
Hold me nubbs
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Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 07 March 2015, 15:39:06
(https://d3166080e56a2684d1460a5a4c5071610cb8b8f3-www.googledrive.com/host/0B9akdDF7HcZ0b19YS1h5a0p6dXc/yura150.gif)Holy crap the drama here is real.im going back to the clear tops thread.
Hold me nubbsShow Image(https://31.media.tumblr.com/29d9aba4354295ad94b309c5ca42479b/tumblr_inline_nf4r78j0x01sbgh76.gif)
Post by: slickmamba on Sat, 07 March 2015, 16:02:56
Holy crap the drama here is real.im going back to the clear tops thread.
Hold me nubbsShow Image(https://31.media.tumblr.com/29d9aba4354295ad94b309c5ca42479b/tumblr_inline_nf4r78j0x01sbgh76.gif)Show Image(https://d3166080e56a2684d1460a5a4c5071610cb8b8f3-www.googledrive.com/host/0B9akdDF7HcZ0b19YS1h5a0p6dXc/yura150.gif)
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Post by: swill on Sat, 07 March 2015, 16:03:19
That is probably a good idea.Okay. Civil people. Here's listing down some answers I've summarised from pages of posts.......
1) Miscommunication between hwood and myself, he charged shipping that's slightly lower for those people that he invoiced, resulting in the differences between both our invoices. He will be rectifying that soon, by asking people to top up the difference. You can reduce your order if you desire, he should be able to handle it for you.
2) I am shipping via Intl Air Packets (airmail, contary to what you read, they allow boxes) + registered mail (aka tracking & signature required on receipt, which costs +2.5/package), and they do not allow packages larger than 2kg, hence many of those who ordered larger quantities have been billed WITHOUT shipping, because the price estimates go haywire after 2kg, and I'll need to go get the exact prices for the best way to send them their items.
3) Shipping costs include costs of materials as well, bubble wrap, ziplock bags, boxes (I'm getting the thick walled ones so they don't dent/crush during shipping, and NO I'M NOT USING BUBBLE MAILERS), tape, shipping labels etc etc, and any additional costs to travel and source for the stuffs and ship them (it is insignificant, but since people wanted to be clear, I had to mention. Or people will think that petrol comes free from wells in Singapore). The small difference will also buffer in case the packaging jacks up the cost of shipping, they weigh quite a bit together as well.
4) GB fee includes a $2 tip for us per order for sorting and packaging services, and the other 1.5 is for consolidated shipping from Gateron to Singapore for the switches and the 7% customs charges I'll get for importing the switches.
5) Please also bear in mind the 4% PayPal fee and currency conversion, banks don't use the Google rates.
6) The price you pay on your invoice includes everything above, I used to do GBs and ship stuff frequently, so I know most of the things that I need to include in my bills from the start, so they might look abit more than expected. BUT you do not have to worry about me slapping on additional charges when it's time to ship the packages, which you might have seen on other GBs.
EDIT: Before you think that the price is outrageous for such a cheap item, go quantify it by looking at a baggie of your own switches lying around. The percentage of the shipping might be really large in the invoice, but when you divide it out the cost becomes more realistic.
Any other burning questions?
Just a heads up, if you have credit card linked to your paypal account you can change the conversion option so that card issuer will determine the foreign exchange rate instead of paypal.
Post by: leandre.north on Sat, 07 March 2015, 16:08:13
Post by: samsonite727 on Sat, 07 March 2015, 16:47:52
Eyy shadovved. When do I get my mail about the switches?
Since orders close on March 12, I would assume all invoice will be sent by then.
Post by: leandre.north on Sat, 07 March 2015, 16:51:04
OK I'll waitEyy shadovved. When do I get my mail about the switches?
Since orders close on March 12, I would assume all invoice will be sent by then.
Post by: Glod on Sat, 07 March 2015, 21:09:51
shipping was....a lot but the switches still came out really cheap.
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 07 March 2015, 22:30:55
Eyy shadovved. When do I get my mail about the switches?
I should have invoiced everyone by now, if you still have not gotten your invoice, please PM me.
It might be due to that you didn't fill out some details correctly.
Post by: Natemiester on Sat, 07 March 2015, 22:50:12
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sat, 07 March 2015, 22:51:45
Thanks for running this, I hope everything goes smoothly :cool:
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 08 March 2015, 00:05:20
Post by: swill on Sun, 08 March 2015, 00:09:49
Post by: leandre.north on Sun, 08 March 2015, 00:10:58
Nope haven't got anything. Gonna pm you
Eyy shadovved. When do I get my mail about the switches?
I should have invoiced everyone by now, if you still have not gotten your invoice, please PM me.
It might be due to that you didn't fill out some details correctly.
Post by: Sirakain on Sun, 08 March 2015, 09:13:16
100 browns, 100 blacks for me :)
Thanks hwood and Shadovved!
Edit: Invoice paid!
Post by: leandre.north on Sun, 08 March 2015, 09:19:31
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 08 March 2015, 11:41:54
Still waiting for invoiceNot seeing an order from you, could you resubmit?
Post by: leandre.north on Sun, 08 March 2015, 12:48:06
Shadovved fixed itStill waiting for invoiceNot seeing an order from you, could you resubmit?
Post by: ideus on Sun, 08 March 2015, 14:38:24
Shadovved fixed itStill waiting for invoiceNot seeing an order from you, could you resubmit?
I am really impressed by how fast and well Shadovved is handling communications.
Post by: leandre.north on Sun, 08 March 2015, 14:39:40
Almost as fast as Sanic.Shadovved fixed itStill waiting for invoiceNot seeing an order from you, could you resubmit?
I am really impressed by how fast and well Shadovved is handling communications.
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 08 March 2015, 14:49:05
blessed be he our ogre lord and onion king shrekAlmost as fast as Sanic.Shadovved fixed itStill waiting for invoiceNot seeing an order from you, could you resubmit?
I am really impressed by how fast and well Shadovved is handling communications.
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 08 March 2015, 14:49:19
Almost as fast as Sanic.I am really impressed by how fast and well Shadovved is handling communications.Shadovved fixed itStill waiting for invoiceNot seeing an order from you, could you resubmit?
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Post by: leandre.north on Sun, 08 March 2015, 15:02:16
I ordered 70 blues for my custom 60% and 30 clears for god knows what :)
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 08 March 2015, 15:04:52
Hwood: what is you favourite Gateron switches?Hmm, tough one. I'm always partial to clicky switches, so it would probably have to be blues
I ordered 70 blues for my custom 60% and 30 clears for god knows what :)
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 08 March 2015, 15:06:26
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 08 March 2015, 15:40:15
Finally put my order in.Damn I forgot. I'll have to do it when I'll come home.
Post by: trizkut on Sun, 08 March 2015, 15:54:24
Show Image(http://www.ripten.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/sonic.jpg)
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Paid!
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 08 March 2015, 18:54:48
anyway, what will be the declared value declared for customs? Will it be lower that the real value?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 08 March 2015, 18:56:15
Sorry I can't reply to any PMs right now, hit my hourly limit. I'll get back to everyone once it resets
Since when is there a PM limit? I had no idea.
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 08 March 2015, 18:58:04
I never actually hit it before that, so I'm not sure when it started. But yeah, 50 PMs in an hourSorry I can't reply to any PMs right now, hit my hourly limit. I'll get back to everyone once it resets
Since when is there a PM limit? I had no idea.
too bad that the delivery cost has increased :-!
anyway, what will be the declared value declared for customs? Will it be lower that the real value?
The declared amount for customs will default at either $20, or the actual amount if your order is less. PM Shadovved if you'd like to change the amount
Post by: dj027x on Sun, 08 March 2015, 22:07:51
PM sent, THANKS!
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 09 March 2015, 04:12:06
Thanks Shadovved and Hwood for all the hard work and dedication.
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 09 March 2015, 06:02:03
PS: Does someone know how to tell to paypal that you don't want to make the currency change with them but to let it to your bank? Is there an option in your PayPal account? They are putting some more fees for that exchange ...
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 09 March 2015, 06:49:42
Invoice received and paid. Thanks.
PS: Does someone know how to tell to paypal that you don't want to make the currency change with them but to let it to your bank? Is there an option in your PayPal account? They are putting some more fees for that exchange ...
You dont have a choice apparently.
Hello! I got an invoice, but I would like to change it to 50 clears and 50 blues (I thought thats what i ordered in the first place, but I may have messed it up)
PM sent, THANKS!
Edited!
Post by: samsonite727 on Mon, 09 March 2015, 07:04:28
Eyy shadovved. When do I get my mail about the switches?
I should have invoiced everyone by now, if you still have not gotten your invoice, please PM me.
It might be due to that you didn't fill out some details correctly.
Can I please change my order to 80 browns and 10 blacks and I have not received my invoice yet
username is samsonite727
Post by: Lpwl on Mon, 09 March 2015, 07:34:57
PS: Does someone know how to tell to paypal that you don't want to make the currency change with them but to let it to your bank? Is there an option in your PayPal account? They are putting some more fees for that exchange ...
The answer is :
Quote
If you use your credit card to send a payment, you can usually opt to use your credit card provider’s conversion rate instead of PayPal's.
source (https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/helpcenter/helphub/article/?solutionId=FAQ1733)
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 09 March 2015, 07:45:20
I still can invoice and edit while on limitation, so fire away with edits.
Will update you guys when I resolve it. :thumb:
Thanks!
@samsonite I have sent an invoice to you, have you still not received it?
Post by: samsonite727 on Mon, 09 March 2015, 08:01:04
Anyway. Payments and order changes are on hold.PayPal just limited my account for inquiry, so I'll appreciate if you guys hold off the order edits and changes atm.
I still can invoice and edit while on limitation, so fire away with edits.
Will update you guys when I resolve it. :thumb:
Thanks!
@samsonite I have sent an invoice to you, have you still not received it?
Opps. my bad, was checking the wrong email. Paying it today, btw did you change my order to 80 browns and 10 blacks?
sorry for the inconvenience
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 09 March 2015, 08:14:26
Anyway. Payments and order changes are on hold.PayPal just limited my account for inquiry, so I'll appreciate if you guys hold off the order edits and changes atm.
I still can invoice and edit while on limitation, so fire away with edits.
Will update you guys when I resolve it. :thumb:
Thanks!
@samsonite I have sent an invoice to you, have you still not received it?
Opps. my bad, was checking the wrong email. Paying it today, btw did you change my order to 80 browns and 10 blacks?
sorry for the inconvenience
Yeap.
Post by: samsonite727 on Mon, 09 March 2015, 08:31:48
Anyway. Payments and order changes are on hold.PayPal just limited my account for inquiry, so I'll appreciate if you guys hold off the order edits and changes atm.
I still can invoice and edit while on limitation, so fire away with edits.
Will update you guys when I resolve it. :thumb:
Thanks!
@samsonite I have sent an invoice to you, have you still not received it?
Opps. my bad, was checking the wrong email. Paying it today, btw did you change my order to 80 browns and 10 blacks?
sorry for the inconvenience
Yeap.
Alright paid the invoice.
thanks
Post by: swill on Mon, 09 March 2015, 08:42:45
Post by: snipars on Mon, 09 March 2015, 08:55:41
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 09 March 2015, 08:56:02
don't be shy to order more browns. :P
Lol you're going to be bathing your kids in them. Using them to plug random holes. Replacing every light switch in your house with them. Grinding them in your disposal to clean it. Haha.
Post by: swill on Mon, 09 March 2015, 09:23:37
Haha. Ya. I will have to setup a shop on swillkb.com just to get rid of them all. What did I get myself into? Hahadon't be shy to order more browns.
Lol you're going to be bathing your kids in them. Using them to plug random holes. Replacing every light switch in your house with them. Grinding them in your disposal to clean it. Haha.
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 09 March 2015, 09:23:45
Not sure if someone's already asked, but when will the buyers be receiving these switches? if it's more than a month or two then i'll buy a few to build my custom keyboard while i wait :D
I'm expecting to ship them all out by April 16......that's hoping. Do expect small delays here and there.
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 09 March 2015, 09:36:34
PS: Does someone know how to tell to paypal that you don't want to make the currency change with them but to let it to your bank? Is there an option in your PayPal account? They are putting some more fees for that exchange ...
The answer is :QuoteIf you use your credit card to send a payment, you can usually opt to use your credit card provider’s conversion rate instead of PayPal's.
source (https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/helpcenter/helphub/article/?solutionId=FAQ1733)
Thanks I'll modify my account settings.
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 09 March 2015, 10:53:11
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 09 March 2015, 11:36:15
Just want to verify my order was received, I'm not getting the invoice.I see it marked that an invoice was already sent. PM incoming
Post by: Zapheo on Mon, 09 March 2015, 15:56:13
Post by: mecano on Mon, 09 March 2015, 17:32:02
Post by: Zeroo on Mon, 09 March 2015, 18:30:06
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 09 March 2015, 19:30:09
Just ordered some Browns and Blacks for a future build :) Been lurking for ages here, but thanks a lot for doing this GB.It's never too late to start :thumb:
Post by: jujubii on Mon, 09 March 2015, 19:39:15
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 09 March 2015, 19:51:46
Just ordered some Browns and Blacks for a future build :) Been lurking for ages here, but thanks a lot for doing this GB.It's never too late to start :thumb:
I just joined in as well! =)
Couldn't really decide on numbers and didn't realise you can edit the form... xD
Post by: battletux on Tue, 10 March 2015, 00:05:15
Post by: swill on Tue, 10 March 2015, 00:06:30
What's the current price point on this GB?
$0.16/switch on all variants. Make sure to buy some browns when you buy. :P
Post by: Touch_It on Tue, 10 March 2015, 00:23:02
Post by: Asininity on Tue, 10 March 2015, 02:03:44
At least I have two days to decide!
Post by: Zeroo on Tue, 10 March 2015, 02:49:20
With Blues and Browns at $0.16 I really, really want to get 110 Browns and 110 Blues. What would I do with 110 of each switch though?
At least I have two days to decide!
I wanted to get browns, but after hearing the blacks are really good I just ordered 120. No idea what I'm gonna do with those, but just couldn't bare the thought of not taking the chance of buying them now.
Post by: greath on Tue, 10 March 2015, 08:11:46
This is a GB for Gateron Switches, those magical MX-compatible switches you've been hearing all about. Pricing will start at $0.24/switch, and will go down depending on the pricing tiers we can hit. If we can hit 20k (a large order, I know) price will drop to $0.16/switch. I'd like to ask just to make things a little easier that everyone order in 10s. Orders will close March 12th. Orders should be shipped out by April 1/2. Invoices will go out as soon as the buy ends, and you will have 4 days to pay it. We are ordering from Gateron directly, and Shadovved will be sorting and shipping them. There will be a $3.5 handling fee. For order changes, pm me.
I just had a mini heart attack rereading the top post. Hwood you might want to change the "Invoices will go out as soon as the buy ends" text a bit, since you have been sending them out periodically. For a second I thought I have sent my payment to some other jabroni :P
Post by: SigLogical on Tue, 10 March 2015, 08:31:51
Post by: phx on Tue, 10 March 2015, 09:38:38
what do you all plan on doing with these switches? I really want to try them on a board but I honestly have no places to put them, I would need to buy a new board and replace the switches, then im left with a bunch of useless switches :\
now only if they sell switches-less boards, that would be great...
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Tue, 10 March 2015, 09:43:45
question...
what do you all plan on doing with these switches? I really want to try them on a board but I honestly have no places to put them, I would need to buy a new board and replace the switches, then im left with a bunch of useless switches :\
now only if they sell switches-less boards, that would be great...
2 60% keyboards, a full one and some 20% prototypes I've made.
Post by: inanis on Tue, 10 March 2015, 09:48:35
question...
what do you all plan on doing with these switches? I really want to try them on a board but I honestly have no places to put them, I would need to buy a new board and replace the switches, then im left with a bunch of useless switches :\
now only if they sell switches-less boards, that would be great...
I am planning on building an Infinity, a GON Nerd60 (most probably), and a number pad of some sort. Also, I plan on doing a fun little project of turning my switch tester into something to experiment with - like an home/arrow cluster, similar to this https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67338 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67338), an idea by Grendel. Basically, I can't not think of things to do with my switches.
Post by: brucee10 on Tue, 10 March 2015, 09:54:39
Post by: pryedthirdeye on Tue, 10 March 2015, 10:02:38
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 10 March 2015, 11:00:39
I got my invoice and it's not correct. It has me down for 130 Black and 130 Blue. I wanted 100 Clear and 100 Blue. Can it be resent, or adjusted?Yep, just pm Shadovved as stated in the OP
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 10 March 2015, 11:02:47
Alright, done :thumb:This is a GB for Gateron Switches, those magical MX-compatible switches you've been hearing all about. Pricing will start at $0.24/switch, and will go down depending on the pricing tiers we can hit. If we can hit 20k (a large order, I know) price will drop to $0.16/switch. I'd like to ask just to make things a little easier that everyone order in 10s. Orders will close March 12th. Orders should be shipped out by April 1/2. Invoices will go out as soon as the buy ends, and you will have 4 days to pay it. We are ordering from Gateron directly, and Shadovved will be sorting and shipping them. There will be a $3.5 handling fee. For order changes, pm me.
I just had a mini heart attack rereading the top post. Hwood you might want to change the "Invoices will go out as soon as the buy ends" text a bit, since you have been sending them out periodically. For a second I thought I have sent my payment to some other jabroni
Post by: SigLogical on Tue, 10 March 2015, 13:05:38
question...
what do you all plan on doing with these switches? I really want to try them on a board but I honestly have no places to put them, I would need to buy a new board and replace the switches, then im left with a bunch of useless switches :\
now only if they sell switches-less boards, that would be great...
No idea, Maybe a NerD TKL or a GON HHKB PCB to make up for the loss of Sprit's PCB
Post by: rand on Tue, 10 March 2015, 13:16:21
question...
what do you all plan on doing with these switches? I really want to try them on a board but I honestly have no places to put them, I would need to buy a new board and replace the switches, then im left with a bunch of useless switches :\
now only if they sell switches-less boards, that would be great...
Planning on building an ergo clear GON 60. Maybe throw in a few numpads in there.
Post by: Zapheo on Tue, 10 March 2015, 13:18:43
question...
what do you all plan on doing with these switches? I really want to try them on a board but I honestly have no places to put them, I would need to buy a new board and replace the switches, then im left with a bunch of useless switches :\
now only if they sell switches-less boards, that would be great...
I'm planning on building my first ever Planck! :D
Post by: inanis on Tue, 10 March 2015, 13:21:19
Planning on building an ergo clear GON 60. Maybe throw in a few numpads in there.
Just to make sure you know, Gateron Clears are not tactile like Cherry switches. The are completely linear.
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Tue, 10 March 2015, 13:26:10
Post by: geo462rge on Tue, 10 March 2015, 14:33:29
Dont *need* this...but have always considered buliding some things, this just pushed me over the edge to try it.
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 10 March 2015, 15:37:35
Just sent in for an order of 200...
Dont *need* this...but have always considered buliding some things, this just pushed me over the edge to try it.
I did the same. Ordered 200 even though I don't need them. I'll just keep them at hand in case I finally decided to own an MX board again.
Post by: n7 on Tue, 10 March 2015, 15:55:29
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 10 March 2015, 15:58:13
Post by: geo462rge on Tue, 10 March 2015, 16:06:00
edit - just realized its likely not automated...sorry if i am being impatient
Post by: leandre.north on Tue, 10 March 2015, 16:09:21
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 March 2015, 16:12:53
Is it price change on 30K?
100K
Post by: leandre.north on Tue, 10 March 2015, 16:18:58
For one type?Is it price change on 30K?
100K
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 March 2015, 16:20:18
For one type?Is it price change on 30K?
100K
yes, for each switch type
Post by: leandre.north on Tue, 10 March 2015, 16:25:20
Do you know what the price would be then?For one type?Is it price change on 30K?
100K
yes, for each switch type
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 March 2015, 16:29:38
Do you know what the price would be then?For one type?Is it price change on 30K?
100K
yes, for each switch type
I think hwood and Shadovved said it would go down to like $0.15/ea. :D
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 10 March 2015, 16:29:56
^Do you know what the price would be then?For one type?Is it price change on 30K?
100K
yes, for each switch type
I think hwood and Shadovved said it would go down to like $0.15/ea. :D
Post by: leandre.north on Tue, 10 March 2015, 16:32:35
Ohh. Okay thanks^Do you know what the price would be then?For one type?Is it price change on 30K?
100K
yes, for each switch type
I think hwood and Shadovved said it would go down to like $0.15/ea. :D
Post by: superbia on Tue, 10 March 2015, 16:33:14
(http://media.giphy.com/media/2Fazf3IFiTw2CO7MQ/giphy.gif)Do you know what the price would be then?For one type?Is it price change on 30K?
100K
yes, for each switch type
I think hwood and Shadovved said it would go down to like $0.15/ea. :D
Post by: vindaon on Tue, 10 March 2015, 16:35:18
Post by: slot demon on Tue, 10 March 2015, 16:42:46
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 March 2015, 16:43:56
but you can never have enough keyboard stuff.
Truer words were never spoken.
And Welcome to Geekhack! (Your wallet hates you.)
Post by: swill on Tue, 10 March 2015, 17:33:51
but you can never have enough keyboard stuff.
Truer words were never spoken.
And Welcome to Geekhack! (Your wallet hates you.)
Maybe you should have a conversation with my wife. :P
I may have to hide the fact that I am ordering $1000 worth of switches. About $900 worth of switches more than I need. Haha...
Post by: swill on Tue, 10 March 2015, 17:36:11
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 10 March 2015, 17:38:18
@hwood34: did the number of browns ordered actually go down or are you just assuming that it will stay at 20k and I will be reducing my order by whatever I can to keep it at 20k?I'm just putting up the 20k number so people on the fence will buy if they now it'll be at $0.16. It's actually at 18,700 though, so we'll get pretty close
Post by: swill on Tue, 10 March 2015, 17:47:08
Is the 18,700 number before or after my order of 4300? If its before that will make my day because then I can order a more reasonable number.@hwood34: did the number of browns ordered actually go down or are you just assuming that it will stay at 20k and I will be reducing my order by whatever I can to keep it at 20k?I'm just putting up the 20k number so people on the fence will buy if they now it'll be at $0.16. It's actually at 18,700 though, so we'll get pretty close
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 10 March 2015, 17:53:20
the 18,700 is before your order :thumb:Is the 18,700 number before or after my order of 4300? If its before that will make my day because then I can order a more reasonable number.@hwood34: did the number of browns ordered actually go down or are you just assuming that it will stay at 20k and I will be reducing my order by whatever I can to keep it at 20k?I'm just putting up the 20k number so people on the fence will buy if they now it'll be at $0.16. It's actually at 18,700 though, so we'll get pretty close
Post by: swill on Tue, 10 March 2015, 17:55:12
NICE!!! Thanks for that glorious little update.the 18,700 is before your order :thumb:Is the 18,700 number before or after my order of 4300? If its before that will make my day because then I can order a more reasonable number.@hwood34: did the number of browns ordered actually go down or are you just assuming that it will stay at 20k and I will be reducing my order by whatever I can to keep it at 20k?I'm just putting up the 20k number so people on the fence will buy if they now it'll be at $0.16. It's actually at 18,700 though, so we'll get pretty close
Post by: phx on Tue, 10 March 2015, 19:26:17
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 10 March 2015, 19:30:50
shipping is 10 dollars? :eek:
How many did you order, it's $8/100pcs
Post by: phx on Tue, 10 March 2015, 19:34:35
shipping is 10 dollars? :eek:
How many did you order, it's $8/100pcs
yeah I just didn't expect it to be so much, not that surprising now that I think about it, since its coming from Singapore
Post by: swill on Tue, 10 March 2015, 19:46:09
Thats cheap IMO. It costs me $9 to ship untracked air to the US from Canada. US residents are just spoiled re:shipping. :)shipping is 10 dollars? :eek:
How many did you order, it's $8/100pcs
yeah I just didn't expect it to be so much, not that surprising now that I think about it, since its coming from Singapore
Post by: geo462rge on Tue, 10 March 2015, 20:03:54
Thats cheap IMO. It costs me $9 to ship untracked air to the US from Canada. US residents are just spoiled re:shipping. :)shipping is 10 dollars? :eek:
How many did you order, it's $8/100pcs
yeah I just didn't expect it to be so much, not that surprising now that I think about it, since its coming from Singapore
yeah we really are,. i just paid 6.55 to ship TWO KEYCAPS to canada....
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 10 March 2015, 20:20:03
Post by: geo462rge on Tue, 10 March 2015, 20:38:40
Post by: samsonite727 on Tue, 10 March 2015, 21:15:01
Thats cheap IMO. It costs me $9 to ship untracked air to the US from Canada. US residents are just spoiled re:shipping. :)shipping is 10 dollars? :eek:
How many did you order, it's $8/100pcs
yeah I just didn't expect it to be so much, not that surprising now that I think about it, since its coming from Singapore
True. Lets not forget the conversion rates these days in Canada. Example, a $199 ergodox from massdrop become $252 Canadian :(
Post by: Willyc277 on Tue, 10 March 2015, 21:17:54
Thats cheap IMO. It costs me $9 to ship untracked air to the US from Canada. US residents are just spoiled re:shipping. :)shipping is 10 dollars? :eek:
How many did you order, it's $8/100pcs
yeah I just didn't expect it to be so much, not that surprising now that I think about it, since its coming from Singapore
Shipping a cap via USPS first class mail costs less than $2. That includes tracking and it usually arrives within 3-4 days. We certainly are spoiled!
Post by: swill on Tue, 10 March 2015, 21:18:06
Yes. Sad days. It definitely hurts now.Thats cheap IMO. It costs me $9 to ship untracked air to the US from Canada. US residents are just spoiled re:shipping. :)shipping is 10 dollars? :eek:
How many did you order, it's $8/100pcs
yeah I just didn't expect it to be so much, not that surprising now that I think about it, since its coming from Singapore
True. Lets not forget the conversion rates these days in Canada. Example, a $199 ergodox from massdrop become $252 Canadian :(
Post by: thelectronicnub on Tue, 10 March 2015, 21:56:41
Thanks again for doing to GB!
Post by: jonlorusso on Tue, 10 March 2015, 22:30:51
Post by: swill on Tue, 10 March 2015, 22:55:12
Is there still time to get in on this GB?
Yep, get your orders in today. Orders are closing very soon...
Post by: ideus on Tue, 10 March 2015, 23:10:31
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Tue, 10 March 2015, 23:28:46
Really deciding on what to get.
I'm somehow wanting something that feels like Topre so i'm trying to figure out in my mind what would be most like it.
But either way. I'm iffy on the linear-ness of the blacks since i was never a fan of linear switches when i first tried them so i havent tried them since.
Should I end up getting the blacks like everyone suggest or should i get browns/blues
Also, should i get clears just for aesthetics and use the clear stem with the black springs? or maybe use some Sprit (too soon?) springs to make different switches, as to not mess up the perfectness of the stock Gateron Blacks.
Just rambling since i'm waiting for my girlfriend.
But if someone could help me decide, that would be greeeeeeeeeeeeat-ly appreciated :)
Edit: NOT TO MENTION should i toss in 1 set of clear tops, or 2 sets? SO MUCH TO BUY
Post by: swill on Tue, 10 March 2015, 23:49:22
Still wondering if i should join / what i should get.
Really deciding on what to get.
I'm somehow wanting something that feels like Topre so i'm trying to figure out in my mind what would be most like it.
But either way. I'm iffy on the linear-ness of the blacks since i was never a fan of linear switches when i first tried them so i havent tried them since.
Should I end up getting the blacks like everyone suggest or should i get browns/blues
Also, should i get clears just for aesthetics and use the clear stem with the black springs? or maybe use some Sprit (too soon?) springs to make different switches, as to not mess up the perfectness of the stock Gateron Blacks.
Just rambling since i'm waiting for my girlfriend.
But if someone could help me decide, that would be greeeeeeeeeeeeat-ly appreciated :)
Edit: NOT TO MENTION should i toss in 1 set of clear tops, or 2 sets? SO MUCH TO BUY
put it this way. you will never have the chance to buy switches at this price again. I would recommend you buy about 100 of each of black or clear, brown and blue. This way you will have all of the options and you can experiment as much as you want. You can always sell the extras if you find you don't like something. At this price you can't really go wrong with buying more than you 'need'. Also, the more you buy the more likely you will be paying less per switch for shipping... All good reasons to jump in with both feet... :)
Post by: rsac on Wed, 11 March 2015, 01:21:02
Post by: Eiji on Wed, 11 March 2015, 02:01:17
Post by: thehijjt on Wed, 11 March 2015, 08:23:06
120 Blues
120 Blacks
Post by: rand on Wed, 11 March 2015, 10:26:36
Planning on building an ergo clear GON 60. Maybe throw in a few numpads in there.
Just to make sure you know, Gateron Clears are not tactile like Cherry switches. The are completely linear.
I have a bunch of Cherry MX Clears. I just want the housings from the Gaterons and the clear switch tops from the other group buy. :thumb:
Post by: tjweir on Wed, 11 March 2015, 10:54:17
Post by: Gloomy Moonie on Wed, 11 March 2015, 11:14:48
Also, would an addition of 150 clear tops tip the shipping cost over to the 201-300 switches' range, if I'm in for only 200?
Post by: swill on Wed, 11 March 2015, 11:22:35
Before I submit my form, is there a difference in smoothness between the clears and blacks?It is my understanding that the clears and blacks are done with the same mold, so they should be pretty consistent.
Also, would an addition of 150 clear tops tip the shipping cost over to the 201-300 switches' range, if I'm in for only 200?
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 11 March 2015, 11:38:33
Before I submit my form, is there a difference in smoothness between the clears and blacks?They'd be essentially the same smoothness, can't really see the difference some dye would make. As for the switch tops, yes, it would bump you up. You'll want to PM Shadovved for a more exact estimate though
Also, would an addition of 150 clear tops tip the shipping cost over to the 201-300 switches' range, if I'm in for only 200?
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Wed, 11 March 2015, 12:58:37
Still wondering if i should join / what i should get.
Really deciding on what to get.
I'm somehow wanting something that feels like Topre so i'm trying to figure out in my mind what would be most like it.
But either way. I'm iffy on the linear-ness of the blacks since i was never a fan of linear switches when i first tried them so i havent tried them since.
Should I end up getting the blacks like everyone suggest or should i get browns/blues
Also, should i get clears just for aesthetics and use the clear stem with the black springs? or maybe use some Sprit (too soon?) springs to make different switches, as to not mess up the perfectness of the stock Gateron Blacks.
Just rambling since i'm waiting for my girlfriend.
But if someone could help me decide, that would be greeeeeeeeeeeeat-ly appreciated :)
Edit: NOT TO MENTION should i toss in 1 set of clear tops, or 2 sets? SO MUCH TO BUY
put it this way. you will never have the chance to buy switches at this price again. I would recommend you buy about 100 of each of black or clear, brown and blue. This way you will have all of the options and you can experiment as much as you want. You can always sell the extras if you find you don't like something. At this price you can't really go wrong with buying more than you 'need'. Also, the more you buy the more likely you will be paying less per switch for shipping... All good reasons to jump in with both feet... :)
This only makes me want to spend more >.>
Shipping costs per switch won't convince me
But I think I'm pretty much sticking to blacks and clears :P
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 11 March 2015, 13:02:46
Post by: jonlorusso on Wed, 11 March 2015, 20:13:07
Post by: DelKey on Wed, 11 March 2015, 21:24:12
Post by: Sulianjeo on Wed, 11 March 2015, 21:54:17
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Wed, 11 March 2015, 22:22:02
TBH I still haven't finalized my decision...
How long to we have to change our minds?
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 11 March 2015, 22:23:01
How long after completing the form should I expect an invoice?
I haven't received an invoice yet. Should I be concerned?PM Shadovved if the invoice doesn't get out to you by the end of tomorrow (should though)
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 11 March 2015, 22:23:06
Just made an order. Hope its not too late because of timezones.Orders close tomorrow, so not too much longer! :thumb:
TBH I still haven't finalized my decision...
How long to we have to change our minds?
Post by: ThatRusty on Wed, 11 March 2015, 22:24:04
Also I'm new here, just curious how often GBs like this happen? Not sure if I'm going to want to buy Gateron browns, or even MX clears if some show up on here.
Post by: Willyc277 on Wed, 11 March 2015, 22:29:28
Just paid my invoice for 100 blues!! Hopefully I like them, currently using MX browns and wanted to go with MX greens or MX clears for my custom I want to build. But you can't beat the price on this GB! Thinking of getting some MX green springs and swapping them out, any advice on this?
Also I'm new here, just curious how often GBs like this happen? Not sure if I'm going to want to buy Gateron browns, or even MX clears if some show up on here.
Been here a year and I've never seen one of these. Get em while you can! When this gb ends, the next cheapest option will be double the price! I have no plans for the ones I ordered, this was just way too good to pass up!
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 11 March 2015, 23:17:54
Post by: Jason_IRL on Wed, 11 March 2015, 23:18:36
Post by: AKmalamute on Wed, 11 March 2015, 23:26:35
Post by: hammelgammler on Wed, 11 March 2015, 23:31:13
I clicked through the sites... So shipping is in 100`s? Say 400 switches would be 4*$8 for shipping?
Not sure wether or not i should buy some, im normally not really the kind of linear person, I dont liked Blacks but after using the Blacks in a G80-1851 i kind of like them, but not as much as Blues, Topre or Buckling Springs.
I would say i would prefer the following order: Topre = Buckling Springs > Blues >= (Clears) > Blacks > Reds > Browns
Maybe someone could help me very quick, if its not too late already. :)
Post by: AKmalamute on Wed, 11 March 2015, 23:34:55
Just found this thread and its very early in the morning here in germany, is it still possible to buy some?
[...]
Maybe someone could help me very quick, if its not too late already. :)
I *think* they're still taking orders ... it's not the 12th here.
There are blues (nearly the same as MX's blues) and browns (again, nearly the same) available if you wanted clicky or tactile (both with the lighter spring).
It also looks like you can order by tens, so just get 40 blacks for the letters, and you can swap out the sliders for something else if linear isn't to your liking ... all the switch types have reached the cheapest tier.
Just a fellow buyer, so one of the two organizers may step in to correct me but I think that's all right.
Post by: exoizzy on Wed, 11 March 2015, 23:36:57
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 11 March 2015, 23:38:00
Yep, all correct info. Sorry, made a note that orders end at 11:59 pm ESTJust found this thread and its very early in the morning here in germany, is it still possible to buy some?
[...]
Maybe someone could help me very quick, if its not too late already. :)
I *think* they're still taking orders ... it's not the 12th here.
There are blues (nearly the same as SMX blues) and browns (again, nearly the same) available if you wanted clicky or tactile (both with the lighter spring).
It also looks like you can order by tens, so just get 40 blacks for the letters, and you can swap out the sliders for something else if linear isn't to your liking ... all the switch types have reached the cheapest tier.
Just a fellow buyer, so one of the two organizers may step in to correct me but I think that's all right.
Post by: hjc1710 on Wed, 11 March 2015, 23:45:04
In for some browns and some clears!
Post by: Zwi on Wed, 11 March 2015, 23:46:27
Post by: hammelgammler on Wed, 11 March 2015, 23:53:49
That means i have plenty of time left (~11h, should be 00:45 pm EST)
If blues and browns are nearly the same, then definitly not Browns. :)
So the blacks are smooth as lubed mx-blacks, are the blues smooth as mx-blues or really only a little lighter because of the spring?
I dont really care about the look of the switch housing as i dont like LEDs either, so clears are really not to consider for the spring?
My friend really likes light switches, so would any other switch, lets say mx-blues or mx-clears would be to consider with the spring of a clear gateron? :)
Sorry if I ask redundant questions. :/
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 00:13:49
Well thank you very much for the quick answers! :)Yes, since the smoothness comes from the plastic used, Gblues would be smoother feeling than MX blues. If aesthetics aren't your thing, Gclears are probably too light for many too use with the stock spring. The lightest MX switches are browns and reds, both 45g
That means i have plenty of time left (~11h, should be 00:45 pm EST)
If blues and browns are nearly the same, then definitly not Browns. :)
So the blacks are smooth as lubed mx-blacks, are the blues smooth as mx-blues or really only a little lighter because of the spring?
I dont really care about the look of the switch housing as i dont like LEDs either, so clears are really not to consider for the spring?
My friend really likes light switches, so would any other switch, lets say mx-blues or mx-clears would be to consider with the spring of a clear gateron? :)
Sorry if I ask redundant questions. :/
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 12 March 2015, 03:46:34
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 12 March 2015, 06:16:30
Post by: awhitedev on Thu, 12 March 2015, 07:18:21
Post by: hammelgammler on Thu, 12 March 2015, 07:28:46
Shipping would be to Germany, anything possible to avoid taxes?
If the "Zollamt" opens the package and they thinks the gaterons are Cherry-Switches i could be charged for very much. :D
Or will be a bill in the package and on the package so i have to pay the normal taxes for the value i paid?
Post by: qwack on Thu, 12 March 2015, 07:47:51
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 12 March 2015, 07:49:09
Order placed 12 hours ago, have not received my invoice yet, I guess it's safe to wait a few more hours before bugging Shadovved about it?
Yeah I'm sure he's swamped with all the last day orders. Also it's nighttime in Singapore.
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 12 March 2015, 08:15:37
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 12 March 2015, 08:23:31
I will be in for 200 blacks and 200 blues in a few minutes. :)
Shipping would be to Germany, anything possible to avoid taxes?
If the "Zollamt" opens the package and they thinks the gaterons are Cherry-Switches i could be charged for very much. :D
Or will be a bill in the package and on the package so i have to pay the normal taxes for the value i paid?
If they tax you, print out the invoice you paid via paypal and go explain to the customs.
And I just invoiced everyone up till now. So if you havent received your invoice, check your junk and PM me
Post by: Tyrosh22 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 08:27:21
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 12 March 2015, 08:30:57
Will there be a round 2? I'm still undecided and ... yeah ... time's running out. :O
You will probably never get a chance to buy switches at such a low per unit price.
I would recommend getting a bunch.
Post by: swill on Thu, 12 March 2015, 08:44:54
Will there be a round 2? I'm still undecided and ... yeah ... time's running out. :OBuy now. This will not happen again in the next few years for sure.
Post by: Tyrosh22 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 09:29:49
Post by: slot demon on Thu, 12 March 2015, 09:30:42
Post by: hammelgammler on Thu, 12 March 2015, 09:37:38
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 12 March 2015, 09:38:30
Just a quick question which i forgot to ask: Are they PCB or Plate mounted?... Hopefully PCB... :/
They are PCB mount, but they can be converted to plate mount by snipping off the plastic stab.
Post by: hammelgammler on Thu, 12 March 2015, 09:40:58
Post by: leandre.north on Thu, 12 March 2015, 09:54:37
Just a quick question which i forgot to ask: Are they PCB or Plate mounted?... Hopefully PCB... :/PCB
Post by: ThatRusty on Thu, 12 March 2015, 11:45:03
Post by: Dihedral on Thu, 12 March 2015, 11:48:23
You guys are such bad influences and a barely know you! Just placed another order for 60 browns! I was waffling on whether or not to, and I just kept reading that there may never be another GB for this cheap, DAMN YOU!
wallethack'd
Post by: geo462rge on Thu, 12 March 2015, 11:59:42
Post by: animated on Thu, 12 March 2015, 12:19:12
You guys are such bad influences and a barely know you! Just placed another order for 60 browns! I was waffling on whether or not to, and I just kept reading that there may never be another GB for this cheap, DAMN YOU!
I also felt this way, didn't know if a future GB will ever happen. So now I have enough switches for my future unborn keyboards.... :thumb:
Post by: tokkystyle on Thu, 12 March 2015, 13:03:45
Post by: SavvyBird on Thu, 12 March 2015, 13:36:50
Also I plan on using these on the future Orion V2 or should I just get original cherry switches
Post by: swill on Thu, 12 March 2015, 13:54:49
I like clear for typing and brown for playing games, which gateron switch do you guys recommend?
Also I plan on using these on the future Orion V2 or should I just get original cherry switches
Brown is going to be the best option. There is no equivalent to MX clear in this GB. The browns will be pretty consistent with MX browns...
Post by: ideus on Thu, 12 March 2015, 13:56:22
I like clear for typing and brown for playing games, which gateron switch do you guys recommend?
Also I plan on using these on the future Orion V2 or should I just get original cherry switches
It appears that they are no Gateron that matches the Cherry clear switch, according with comments of people that have tried them already.
Post by: SavvyBird on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:25:57
I like clear for typing and brown for playing games, which gateron switch do you guys recommend?
Also I plan on using these on the future Orion V2 or should I just get original cherry switches
Brown is going to be the best option. There is no equivalent to MX clear in this GB. The browns will be pretty consistent with MX browns...
I like clear for typing and brown for playing games, which gateron switch do you guys recommend?
Also I plan on using these on the future Orion V2 or should I just get original cherry switches
It appears that they are no Gateron that matches the Cherry clear switch, according with comments of people that have tried them already.
I wish I knew how the black switches feel
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:31:41
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:38:06
Gateron blacks feel like lubed MX blacks, with a very slightly lighter spring.Are the springs confirmed to be lighter or is it because of less friction of the slider?
Post by: jacobolus on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:38:33
Post by: RoastPotatoes on Thu, 12 March 2015, 16:08:12
Post by: Blackehart on Thu, 12 March 2015, 16:53:26
thx!
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 12 March 2015, 16:57:27
200 browns ordered.
thx!
Swill will thank you!
Post by: Dee1 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 17:09:01
Post by: Stabilized on Thu, 12 March 2015, 17:14:48
Post by: swill on Thu, 12 March 2015, 17:40:25
200 browns ordered.
thx!
Swill will thank you!
I appreciate everyone who pitched in on the browns. I believe my initiative to pay to get the browns to the 20k mark worked. I think it has tipped without even needing my order, so I was able to reduce my order to a more reasonable 500 browns. :)
Thanks everyone...
Post by: samsonite727 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 17:42:03
200 browns ordered.
thx!
Swill will thank you!
I appreciate everyone who pitched in on the browns. I believe my initiative to pay to get the browns to the 20k mark worked. I think it has tipped without even needing my order, so I was able to reduce my order to a more reasonable 500 browns. :)
Thanks everyone...
Ya, I changed from blacks cause of you.
Thanks
Post by: mecano on Thu, 12 March 2015, 18:38:40
Somewhere in the folds of my brain there should be a geekhack monster made up of multiple avatars.
Ssshhhh don't wake him up yet because he likes to eat blacks.
Meanwhile the brown eating monster has a clear image, he has a beard, wear glasses, is holding a smiling kid with a red bandana and goes like this "We need more browns, get your browns, browns are the thing, have the browns, get more browns, browns, browns, browns, everybody browns now!, you don't have browns? Get some browns, 100 browns, 300 browns, browns, browns, browns".
It is not known in the land of the switches monsters if browns have a better taste than blacks but all hope they will be fed soon :)
Aren't orders closed by now?
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 12 March 2015, 18:44:48
I too choose black because of someone but couldn't remember who precisely.
Somewhere in the folds of my brain there should be a geekhack monster made up of multiple avatars.
Ssshhhh don't wake him up yet because he likes to eat blacks.
Meanwhile the brown eating monster has a clear image, he has a beard, wear glasses, is holding a smiling kid with a red bandana and goes like this "We need more browns, get your browns, browns are the thing, have the browns, get more browns, browns, browns, browns, everybody browns now!, you don't have browns? Get some browns, 100 browns, 300 browns, browns, browns, browns".
It is not known in the land of the switches monsters if browns have a better taste than blacks but all hope they will be fed soon :)
Aren't orders closed by now?
Lol
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 18:57:43
Do i need these? Will i like them? should i set aside the money for something else?
hmmm..
Few hours to decide.
Post by: melkenshawn on Thu, 12 March 2015, 19:14:26
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 12 March 2015, 19:20:31
Still on the fence about this...
Do i need these? Will i like them? should i set aside the money for something else?
hmmm..
Few hours to decide.
3 hours, 40 minutes. Get on it bro!
Post by: nomaded on Thu, 12 March 2015, 21:08:43
I'm going to swap in some clears for the outer modifiers on my ErgoDoxen, and probably most of the thumb cluster. And I want to build a Atreus at some point in the near future.
Post by: abjr on Thu, 12 March 2015, 22:12:55
Still on the fence about this...
Do i need these? Will i like them? should i set aside the money for something else?
hmmm..
Few hours to decide.
Likewise I was suffering from analysis paralysis .. i.e. Am I actually going to use them? Am I kidding myself that I can build my own keyboard(s), etc. Pulled the trigger anyway.
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 22:23:04
Still on the fence about this...
Do i need these? Will i like them? should i set aside the money for something else?
hmmm..
Few hours to decide.
Likewise I was suffering from analysis paralysis .. i.e. Am I actually going to use them? Am I kidding myself that I can build my own keyboard(s), etc. Pulled the trigger anyway.
Less than an hour left and i still have no idea. Trying to do classwork but still distracted on this since time will run out...
I can always use these switches, or like suggested, sell them at a later point if i dont, but it's money i can use RIGHT NOW for something else.
Limited funding and all that, and wouldnt want to try and borrow from somewhere else or antyhing like that.
Either these switches/switch tops, 2nd Hyperfuse, HHKB (possibly have the chance to get one if i can visit EK tomorrow). Just a lot to think about lol
I will probably end up pulling the trigger on at least 100 switches though.
Post by: slickmamba on Thu, 12 March 2015, 22:26:27
Post by: swill on Thu, 12 March 2015, 22:31:01
Still on the fence about this...
Do i need these? Will i like them? should i set aside the money for something else?
hmmm..
Few hours to decide.
Likewise I was suffering from analysis paralysis .. i.e. Am I actually going to use them? Am I kidding myself that I can build my own keyboard(s), etc. Pulled the trigger anyway.
Less than an hour left and i still have no idea. Trying to do classwork but still distracted on this since time will run out...
I can always use these switches, or like suggested, sell them at a later point if i dont, but it's money i can use RIGHT NOW for something else.
Limited funding and all that, and wouldnt want to try and borrow from somewhere else or antyhing like that.
Either these switches/switch tops, 2nd Hyperfuse, HHKB (possibly have the chance to get one if i can visit EK tomorrow). Just a lot to think about lol
I will probably end up pulling the trigger on at least 100 switches though.
Put it this way. If you are going to do any build projects in the next year or so, buy these. Any build project will require switches and you won't find them for less than $.50/each (usually) for MX switches. These switches cost nothing compared to MX right now. I will have enough switches for like 8-10 projects. Yes, that is excessive, but this is a really good deal for what you get...
Edit: As for amounts. If you don't know what switch type to buy, get enough of each of your first two choices and you should be good...
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 22:47:22
Still on the fence about this...
Do i need these? Will i like them? should i set aside the money for something else?
hmmm..
Few hours to decide.
Likewise I was suffering from analysis paralysis .. i.e. Am I actually going to use them? Am I kidding myself that I can build my own keyboard(s), etc. Pulled the trigger anyway.
Less than an hour left and i still have no idea. Trying to do classwork but still distracted on this since time will run out...
I can always use these switches, or like suggested, sell them at a later point if i dont, but it's money i can use RIGHT NOW for something else.
Limited funding and all that, and wouldnt want to try and borrow from somewhere else or antyhing like that.
Either these switches/switch tops, 2nd Hyperfuse, HHKB (possibly have the chance to get one if i can visit EK tomorrow). Just a lot to think about lol
I will probably end up pulling the trigger on at least 100 switches though.
Put it this way. If you are going to do any build projects in the next year or so, buy these. Any build project will require switches and you won't find them for less than $.50/each (usually) for MX switches. These switches cost nothing compared to MX right now. I will have enough switches for like 8-10 projects. Yes, that is excessive, but this is a really good deal for what you get...
Edit: As for amounts. If you don't know what switch type to buy, get enough of each of your first two choices and you should be good...
The only other problem I have is already having bags of switches I can use for future builds
So I can't use that for reasoning
I'll just go ahead and go with my original order of 100 blacks (possibly 100 clears as well) and call it a day :)
Edit: ordered blacks and clears :P
Post by: Art of Payce on Thu, 12 March 2015, 22:55:53
Just placed an order for 80 black, 15 clear, 5 blue.
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 23:37:05
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 13 March 2015, 00:27:44
Alright, orders officially closed. The rest of invoices will be going out
I have completed invoicing. For anyone who has not received an invoice, PM me the username you submitted your form via and your PayPal email.
Thanks!
Post by: Moderate on Fri, 13 March 2015, 03:19:03
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Fri, 13 March 2015, 03:47:08
Paid invoice :)
Post by: leandre.north on Fri, 13 March 2015, 03:58:39
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 13 March 2015, 04:00:43
Invoice needs to be paid before 16th march right?You should have a date of payment on your paypal invoice.
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 13 March 2015, 04:02:24
Invoice needs to be paid before 16th march right?
Invoice are due from whenever you receive them. But do inform me if you have excruciating circumstances that would prevent you from paying on time.
Post by: qwack on Fri, 13 March 2015, 05:24:58
Post by: ThatRusty on Fri, 13 March 2015, 09:42:52
Post by: thebornotaku on Fri, 13 March 2015, 14:06:31
300 switches should last me a while, right? Especially if I build tiny boards? ;D
Post by: Willyc277 on Fri, 13 March 2015, 14:16:14
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 13 March 2015, 14:21:06
Wondering how many people got in on this buy? Must have been several hundred!!447 to be exact :thumb:
Post by: razenos on Fri, 13 March 2015, 16:36:50
sorry for delay , thank you!
Post by: samsonite727 on Fri, 13 March 2015, 16:54:34
Wondering how many people got in on this buy? Must have been several hundred!!447 to be exact :thumb:
Wow! that many people for over 100,000 switches, some of you guys went super saiyan.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 13 March 2015, 16:55:23
Wondering how many people got in on this buy? Must have been several hundred!!447 to be exact :thumb:
Wow! that many people for over 100,000 switches, some of you guys went super saiyan.
Absolutely impressive.
Post by: Willyc277 on Fri, 13 March 2015, 17:10:02
Wondering how many people got in on this buy? Must have been several hundred!!447 to be exact :thumb:
That's nuts!!! Seeing this and the success of the Hyperfuse GMK buy (almost 500 sets sold) tells me that we are living in the golden age of mechs!
Post by: swill on Fri, 13 March 2015, 17:14:17
Wondering how many people got in on this buy? Must have been several hundred!!447 to be exact :thumb:
That's nuts!!! Seeing this and the success of the Hyperfuse GMK buy (almost 500 sets sold) tells me that we are living in the golden age of mechs!
Ya, pretty good days for keyboard enthusiasts. :)
Post by: awhitedev on Fri, 13 March 2015, 17:29:35
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 13 March 2015, 22:04:50
I know I said this before in this thread... but I'd really like to see what 100K+ switches looks like sitting in a room. Shadovved should share a pic with us when they come in ;D
I think I cant fit them in a room. Probably in my living room (I know it's still a room but.....) :p
Along with bubble wrap, ziplocks, and 500 boxes to send them out :eek:
Post by: swill on Fri, 13 March 2015, 22:19:55
I know I said this before in this thread... but I'd really like to see what 100K+ switches looks like sitting in a room. Shadovved should share a pic with us when they come in ;D
I think I cant fit them in a room. Probably in my living room (I know it's still a room but.....) :p
Along with bubble wrap, ziplocks, and 500 boxes to send them out :eek:
Ya, I hope you have a warehouse. :eek: Ya, its going to take a lot of space...
Post by: Art of Payce on Fri, 13 March 2015, 22:26:54
All I ask is...
May I have the switches that aren't stored in the bathtub?
Thanks.
:))
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 13 March 2015, 22:28:55
My payment was prompt, Shadovved.
All I ask is...
May I have the switches that aren't stored in the bathtub?
Thanks.
:))
Ask and you shall receive. You will get those that I put in the sink, or the toilet bowl :p
Post by: leandre.north on Sat, 14 March 2015, 01:56:57
Pics when you get them please. :)I know I said this before in this thread... but I'd really like to see what 100K+ switches looks like sitting in a room. Shadovved should share a pic with us when they come in ;D
I think I cant fit them in a room. Probably in my living room (I know it's still a room but.....)
Along with bubble wrap, ziplocks, and 500 boxes to send them out :eek:
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Sat, 14 March 2015, 02:22:01
Was too lazy to pay right away. Hope it's ok since it's still within payment deadline.
First time joining a GB.
Still don't really have a clue what I'm doing or have gotten myself into. :p
Post by: Lengradde on Sun, 15 March 2015, 10:58:43
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 15 March 2015, 11:50:12
I missed out on the GB, does anyone know what stores will be selling gaterons (even if they currently don't have stock)?PM zeal. He might have ordered quite a bit to sell in his shop (zealpc).
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 15 March 2015, 12:41:24
I missed out on the GB, does anyone know what stores will be selling gaterons (even if they currently don't have stock)?PM'd
Post by: Asininity on Sun, 15 March 2015, 16:31:10
Who knows, I might just hate Gaterons.
Post by: nanook_the_great on Mon, 16 March 2015, 09:08:04
Oh well, I don't even know what I'm going to do with all of these switches!
I was feeling the same way until I had this crazy idea to replace every singe button and switch in my house with gateron switches. Everything. Microwave buttons, roku remote, car key fob, telephone buttons, computer I/O switches. The possibilities are endless :p
Plus it would give me an excuse to buy more keycaps ;)
Post by: Zeroo on Mon, 16 March 2015, 09:33:31
That'd be great, every button you press will have optimal girth!Oh well, I don't even know what I'm going to do with all of these switches!
I was feeling the same way until I had this crazy idea to replace every singe button and switch in my house with gateron switches. Everything. Microwave buttons, roku remote, car key fob, telephone buttons, computer I/O switches. The possibilities are endless :p
Plus it would give me an excuse to buy more keycaps ;)
I'm also not sure what to do with all of the switches, but I'm sure I'll find some use :)
Post by: ThatRusty on Mon, 16 March 2015, 10:10:28
Oh well, I don't even know what I'm going to do with all of these switches!
I was feeling the same way until I had this crazy idea to replace every singe button and switch in my house with gateron switches. Everything. Microwave buttons, roku remote, car key fob, telephone buttons, computer I/O switches. The possibilities are endless :p
Plus it would give me an excuse to buy more keycaps ;)
I'm with you here, I'm thinking of making couple toys for my daughter with blues, LEDs and sounds. What better toy is there than one with clicky switches!
On that note, is there "keycaps" out there that are more of a button? Preferably ones I wouldn't have to 3D print.
Post by: Animalex on Mon, 16 March 2015, 14:02:34
Oh well, I don't even know what I'm going to do with all of these switches!
I was feeling the same way until I had this crazy idea to replace every singe button and switch in my house with gateron switches. Everything. Microwave buttons, roku remote, car key fob, telephone buttons, computer I/O switches. The possibilities are endless :p
Plus it would give me an excuse to buy more keycaps ;)
I'm with you here, I'm thinking of making couple toys for my daughter with blues, LEDs and sounds. What better toy is there than one with clicky switches!
On that note, is there "keycaps" out there that are more of a button? Preferably ones I wouldn't have to 3D print.
You probably want to check out the Arcade gaming community for stuff like this: http://www.focusattack.com/hbfs-g2-30mm-mechanical-switch-pushbutton-black/
Post by: Naed on Mon, 16 March 2015, 17:46:38
Post by: ThatRusty on Mon, 16 March 2015, 17:49:43
Oh well, I don't even know what I'm going to do with all of these switches!
I was feeling the same way until I had this crazy idea to replace every singe button and switch in my house with gateron switches. Everything. Microwave buttons, roku remote, car key fob, telephone buttons, computer I/O switches. The possibilities are endless :p
Plus it would give me an excuse to buy more keycaps ;)
I'm with you here, I'm thinking of making couple toys for my daughter with blues, LEDs and sounds. What better toy is there than one with clicky switches!
On that note, is there "keycaps" out there that are more of a button? Preferably ones I wouldn't have to 3D print.
You probably want to check out the Arcade gaming community for stuff like this: http://www.focusattack.com/hbfs-g2-30mm-mechanical-switch-pushbutton-black/
Very cool! Thanks, that's pretty neat how the switch just plugs in there, no soldering.
Post by: awhitedev on Mon, 16 March 2015, 19:44:03
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 16 March 2015, 19:47:23
Are there any anticipated delays at this point? I know it's nearing the end of 3/16, the date where everyone should have paid their invoice. The next step is to make the actual order with Gateron yes? ;)
This is a group buy. Plan on it taking 3x as long as the original timeframe, no matter what the organizers said.
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 17 March 2015, 05:44:24
Are there any anticipated delays at this point? I know it's nearing the end of 3/16, the date where everyone should have paid their invoice. The next step is to make the actual order with Gateron yes? ;)
This is a group buy. Plan on it taking 3x as long as the original timeframe, no matter what the organizers said.
Order has already been made, update you guys when Gateron readies the items for shipping to me :thumb:
Post by: joey on Tue, 17 March 2015, 09:00:02
Post by: frivolutionary on Tue, 17 March 2015, 09:17:59
What was the final count?
The final count was included on the first post of this topic ... it was a big one :D
Final Numbers:
Clears: 31,643
Blues: 25,816
Blacks: 34,152
Browns: 22,344
Post by: monotagary on Tue, 17 March 2015, 11:16:19
Are there any anticipated delays at this point? I know it's nearing the end of 3/16, the date where everyone should have paid their invoice. The next step is to make the actual order with Gateron yes? ;)
This is a group buy. Plan on it taking 3x as long as the original timeframe, no matter what the organizers said.
Order has already been made, update you guys when Gateron readies the items for shipping to me :thumb:
YEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH. I can't wait for these.
Post by: jorgenslee on Thu, 19 March 2015, 00:33:08
What was the final count?
The final count was included on the first post of this topic ... it was a big one :DFinal Numbers:
Clears: 31,643
Blues: 25,816
Blacks: 34,152
Browns: 22,344
Sorting that much switches would suck the hell out of Shadovved's social life. Your dedication is highly appreciated. On another note though , you can swim on a pool of switches which is a chance of a lifetime. :)) :))
Post by: minh278 on Thu, 19 March 2015, 01:21:09
What was the final count?
The final count was included on the first post of this topic ... it was a big one :DFinal Numbers:
Clears: 31,643
Blues: 25,816
Blacks: 34,152
Browns: 22,344
Sorting that much switches would suck the hell out of Shadovved's social life. Your dedication is highly appreciated. On another note though , you can swim on a pool of switches which is a chance of a lifetime. :)) :))
R.I.P. Shadovved-He died doing what he loved... drowning in a pool of switches
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 19 March 2015, 03:13:44
What was the final count?
The final count was included on the first post of this topic ... it was a big one :DFinal Numbers:
Clears: 31,643
Blues: 25,816
Blacks: 34,152
Browns: 22,344
Sorting that much switches would suck the hell out of Shadovved's social life. Your dedication is highly appreciated. On another note though , you can swim on a pool of switches which is a chance of a lifetime. :)) :))
R.I.P. Shadovved-He died doing what he loved... drowning in a pool of switches
HAHAHA. I can swim :p
The switches should be ready soon. Gateron told me by next week they'll be ready to ship out.
Post by: Willyc277 on Thu, 19 March 2015, 04:27:39
What was the final count?
The final count was included on the first post of this topic ... it was a big one :DFinal Numbers:
Clears: 31,643
Blues: 25,816
Blacks: 34,152
Browns: 22,344
Sorting that much switches would suck the hell out of Shadovved's social life. Your dedication is highly appreciated. On another note though , you can swim on a pool of switches which is a chance of a lifetime. :)) :))
R.I.P. Shadovved-He died doing what he loved... drowning in a pool of switches
HAHAHA. I can swim :p
The switches should be ready soon. Gateron told me by next week they'll be ready to ship out.
Moving right along!!! Super pumped for these! Thanks guys!!!
Post by: awhitedev on Thu, 19 March 2015, 05:41:37
What was the final count?
The final count was included on the first post of this topic ... it was a big one :DFinal Numbers:
Clears: 31,643
Blues: 25,816
Blacks: 34,152
Browns: 22,344
Sorting that much switches would suck the hell out of Shadovved's social life. Your dedication is highly appreciated. On another note though , you can swim on a pool of switches which is a chance of a lifetime. :)) :))
R.I.P. Shadovved-He died doing what he loved... drowning in a pool of switches
HAHAHA. I can swim :p
The switches should be ready soon. Gateron told me by next week they'll be ready to ship out.
That's awesome! I've not been part of many group buys around here... but this is going very well so far :) Kudos to Shadovved and hwood34 for all your hard work and diligence.
Post by: TDub on Thu, 19 March 2015, 06:50:50
Post by: mecano on Thu, 19 March 2015, 11:02:07
Post by: monotagary on Thu, 19 March 2015, 11:25:47
What was the final count?
The final count was included on the first post of this topic ... it was a big one :DFinal Numbers:
Clears: 31,643
Blues: 25,816
Blacks: 34,152
Browns: 22,344
Sorting that much switches would suck the hell out of Shadovved's social life. Your dedication is highly appreciated. On another note though , you can swim on a pool of switches which is a chance of a lifetime. :)) :))
R.I.P. Shadovved-He died doing what he loved... drowning in a pool of switches
HAHAHA. I can swim :p
The switches should be ready soon. Gateron told me by next week they'll be ready to ship out.
Woah! Very timely on Gateron's part.
Post by: duckness on Thu, 19 March 2015, 11:41:50
Post by: swill on Thu, 19 March 2015, 13:34:54
I missed out the GB, are there any extra sets available?
I am pretty sure a few vendors got involved, so I expect there will be some after-gb switches available. :)
Just keep your eyes open or ask once everyone has received theirs.
Post by: Fire Brand on Thu, 19 March 2015, 13:40:57
It may also be worth contacting Hwood as didn't he buy quite a few to make numbers up too?I missed out the GB, are there any extra sets available?
I am pretty sure a few vendors got involved, so I expect there will be some after-gb switches available. :)
Just keep your eyes open or ask once everyone has received theirs.
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 19 March 2015, 13:45:08
I missed out the GB, are there any extra sets available?Massdrop is also running a group buy (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gateron-switches) at the moment.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 19 March 2015, 14:52:18
Post by: ideus on Thu, 19 March 2015, 16:01:57
I missed out the GB, are there any extra sets available?Massdrop is also running a group buy (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gateron-switches) at the moment.
The pricing is a bit different though.
Post by: qwack on Thu, 19 March 2015, 16:16:27
Post by: ideus on Thu, 19 March 2015, 16:29:23
The question is, will vendors who got Gateron switches from this GB sell them at a lower price than MD's? hwood's GB was definitely the way to go but now that it is closed MD's deal looks like an acceptable alternative (if you can cope with their delays of course).
This is an open market, where vendors are free to set their prices as they wish, or market rules, MD, Zeal and any other. That is one of the main reasons why GB are so important for our community. Thus, hwood and the other nice guys involved in this GB, help our passion for keyboards even further with low cost keyboard components.
Post by: qwack on Thu, 19 March 2015, 16:41:18
This is an open market, where vendors are free to set their prices as they wish, or market rules, MD, Zeal and any other.
Of course, there is nothing wrong with them selling switches, I hope my previous post did not come across as a criticism towards small vendors. I was just weighing the remaining choices now that hwood's GB is over.
Post by: Ngt on Thu, 19 March 2015, 16:43:23
Thanks again Shadovved and Hwood for making this happen.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 19 March 2015, 17:41:11
This is an open market, where vendors are free to set their prices as they wish, or market rules, MD, Zeal and any other.
Of course, there is nothing wrong with them selling switches, I hope my previous post did not come across as a criticism towards small vendors. I was just weighing the remaining choices now that hwood's GB is over.
Your comment has not hurt anyone, only that there is no reason for vendors to follow GB prices.
Post by: qwack on Thu, 19 March 2015, 17:44:55
Post by: shrapneL on Thu, 19 March 2015, 19:38:29
The question is, will vendors who got Gateron switches from this GB sell them at a lower price than MD's? hwood's GB was definitely the way to go but now that it is closed MD's deal looks like an acceptable alternative (if you can cope with their delays of course).
actually, I ordered some yellows on MD's group buy and I got them earlier this week!
Post by: melkenshawn on Thu, 19 March 2015, 19:52:47
The question is, will vendors who got Gateron switches from this GB sell them at a lower price than MD's? hwood's GB was definitely the way to go but now that it is closed MD's deal looks like an acceptable alternative (if you can cope with their delays of course).
actually, I ordered some yellows on MD's group buy and I got them earlier this week!
Whoa how were the yellows? There aren't too many reviews on them yet.
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 20 March 2015, 10:09:03
IIRC they are ranked ~170g so I'd say they are just unusable.The question is, will vendors who got Gateron switches from this GB sell them at a lower price than MD's? hwood's GB was definitely the way to go but now that it is closed MD's deal looks like an acceptable alternative (if you can cope with their delays of course).
actually, I ordered some yellows on MD's group buy and I got them earlier this week!
Whoa how were the yellows? There aren't too many reviews on them yet.
Post by: SigLogical on Fri, 20 March 2015, 10:17:22
IIRC they are ranked ~170g so I'd say they are just unusable.The question is, will vendors who got Gateron switches from this GB sell them at a lower price than MD's? hwood's GB was definitely the way to go but now that it is closed MD's deal looks like an acceptable alternative (if you can cope with their delays of course).
actually, I ordered some yellows on MD's group buy and I got them earlier this week!
Whoa how were the yellows? There aren't too many reviews on them yet.
or maybe you have weak fingers :)) :)) :))
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 20 March 2015, 10:18:50
IIRC they are ranked ~170g so I'd say they are just unusable.The question is, will vendors who got Gateron switches from this GB sell them at a lower price than MD's? hwood's GB was definitely the way to go but now that it is closed MD's deal looks like an acceptable alternative (if you can cope with their delays of course).
actually, I ordered some yellows on MD's group buy and I got them earlier this week!
Whoa how were the yellows? There aren't too many reviews on them yet.Show Image(https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji1.png)
or maybe you have weak fingers :)) :)) :))
Yeah that could be a reason as well! But I don't see a lot of people bragging about using such heavy switches. :P
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Fri, 20 March 2015, 10:19:51
Post by: tbc on Fri, 20 March 2015, 15:38:45
IIRC they are ranked ~170g so I'd say they are just unusable.The question is, will vendors who got Gateron switches from this GB sell them at a lower price than MD's? hwood's GB was definitely the way to go but now that it is closed MD's deal looks like an acceptable alternative (if you can cope with their delays of course).
actually, I ordered some yellows on MD's group buy and I got them earlier this week!
Whoa how were the yellows? There aren't too many reviews on them yet.Show Image(https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji1.png)
or maybe you have weak fingers :)) :)) :))
Yeah that could be a reason as well! But I don't see a lot of people bragging about using such heavy switches. :P
that's because they don't have hands anymore
(http://images.cryhavok.org/d/1291-1/Computer+Rage.gif)
not even actuated once
Post by: frivolutionary on Fri, 20 March 2015, 17:20:16
that's because they don't have hands anymoreShow Image(http://images.cryhavok.org/d/1291-1/Computer+Rage.gif)
not even actuated once
LOL :))
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 21 March 2015, 07:20:48
The GIF is pretty accurate haha!IIRC they are ranked ~170g so I'd say they are just unusable.The question is, will vendors who got Gateron switches from this GB sell them at a lower price than MD's? hwood's GB was definitely the way to go but now that it is closed MD's deal looks like an acceptable alternative (if you can cope with their delays of course).
actually, I ordered some yellows on MD's group buy and I got them earlier this week!
Whoa how were the yellows? There aren't too many reviews on them yet.Show Image(https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji1.png)
or maybe you have weak fingers :)) :)) :))
Yeah that could be a reason as well! But I don't see a lot of people bragging about using such heavy switches.
that's because they don't have hands anymoreShow Image(http://images.cryhavok.org/d/1291-1/Computer+Rage.gif)
not even actuated once
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 21 March 2015, 11:02:59
Post by: leandre.north on Sat, 21 March 2015, 11:04:08
Pay your invoices pleaseSo we can still do it and receive switches, its not to late?
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 21 March 2015, 11:08:41
Yep, the order has already been placed to Gateron, but in a day or so we'll start canceling orders probablyPay your invoices pleaseSo we can still do it and receive switches, its not to late?
Post by: slickmamba on Sat, 21 March 2015, 11:53:42
Post by: awhitedev on Sat, 21 March 2015, 13:10:37
Pay your invoices please
Just out of curiosity... Have enough switches already been paid for to get the .16 a piece price?
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 21 March 2015, 13:28:35
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 21 March 2015, 13:30:19
Since we paid $0.16/ea, I would say yes. What happens behind the scenes of a group buy is not really our concern.Pay your invoices please
Just out of curiosity... Have enough switches already been paid for to get the .16 a piece price?
And come on people, pay those invoices if you haven't already. They were due no later than a week ago. If you can't pay, at least have the courtesy to inform the group buy organizers so they can cancel your order and sell those switches to someone else. Don't be a douchebag.
Post by: awhitedev on Sat, 21 March 2015, 14:43:13
Since we paid $0.16/ea, I would say yes. What happens behind the scenes of a group buy is not really our concern.Pay your invoices please
Just out of curiosity... Have enough switches already been paid for to get the .16 a piece price?
And come on people, pay those invoices if you haven't already. They were due no later than a week ago. If you can't pay, at least have the courtesy to inform the group buy organizers so they can cancel your order and sell those switches to someone else. Don't be a douchebag.
Hey it's cool. I know I've already paid my invoice. Maybe I read hwood's last post wrong. I thought maybe he was reducing / canceling orders with Gateron? That was the only reason I was asking.
Also, I'm a newb when it comes to group buys around here... so sorry if I ask stupid questions. :)
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 21 March 2015, 15:04:03
everyone will be paying the $0.16, regardless of cancellations and the like :thumb:Since we paid $0.16/ea, I would say yes. What happens behind the scenes of a group buy is not really our concern.Pay your invoices please
Just out of curiosity... Have enough switches already been paid for to get the .16 a piece price?
And come on people, pay those invoices if you haven't already. They were due no later than a week ago. If you can't pay, at least have the courtesy to inform the group buy organizers so they can cancel your order and sell those switches to someone else. Don't be a douchebag.
Hey it's cool. I know I've already paid my invoice. Maybe I read hwood's last post wrong. I thought maybe he was reducing / canceling orders with Gateron? That was the only reason I was asking.
Also, I'm a newb when it comes to group buys around here... so sorry if I ask stupid questions. :)
Post by: drojf on Sat, 21 March 2015, 18:55:40
Yep, the order has already been placed to Gateron, but in a day or so we'll start canceling orders probablyPay your invoices pleaseSo we can still do it and receive switches, its not to late?
I wasn't part of the original group buy, but I'd be happy to order 100 brown switches if there are cancelled orders.
Post by: minh278 on Sat, 21 March 2015, 19:04:04
Post by: rand77 on Sat, 21 March 2015, 20:16:31
if need to be i can increase my order size.
I would also be willing to do this to compensate for unpaid invoices. Within reason of course :)
Post by: duckness on Sat, 21 March 2015, 21:09:54
Same here! 100 browns for me too!Yep, the order has already been placed to Gateron, but in a day or so we'll start canceling orders probablyPay your invoices pleaseSo we can still do it and receive switches, its not to late?
I wasn't part of the original group buy, but I'd be happy to order 100 brown switches if there are cancelled orders.
Post by: AKmalamute on Sat, 21 March 2015, 21:47:38
Fortunately that all happened after I paid stuff like this, so at least I'm not part of the problem.
Post by: leandre.north on Sat, 21 March 2015, 23:47:02
Post by: Shadovved on Sun, 22 March 2015, 00:11:23
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 22 March 2015, 00:21:46
All those who want to add switches, PM me with your PayPal email and no. of switches & colour.PM'd
Post by: The feel is of the keys! on Sun, 22 March 2015, 01:35:01
All those who want to add switches, PM me with your PayPal email and no. of switches & colour.
If we increase our quantity will we be charged again for shipping or will it simply be added to our order?
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 22 March 2015, 02:01:07
it depends if the new quantity is in a new shipping pricing tierAll those who want to add switches, PM me with your PayPal email and no. of switches & colour.
If we increase our quantity will we be charged again for shipping or will it simply be added to our order?
Post by: Shadovved on Sun, 22 March 2015, 08:29:10
it depends if the new quantity is in a new shipping pricing tierAll those who want to add switches, PM me with your PayPal email and no. of switches & colour.
If we increase our quantity will we be charged again for shipping or will it simply be added to our order?
If you add less than 10 then probably no change. If >10 then yes.
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 22 March 2015, 09:54:38
Post by: ccc24 on Sun, 22 March 2015, 14:04:05
Post by: nomaded on Sun, 22 March 2015, 14:04:10
How about some yellow switches? Can you still add some of these in even at a higher cost?
This isn't adding to the order. The order has been made, in the quantities listed in the OP. This is for those who have already paid, to pay a bit more to cover and receive more switches from people who ordered but didn't pay.
Post by: wlhlm on Sun, 22 March 2015, 15:32:00
anyone have more info about the gateron yellows massdrop just shipped out? People are reporting that it's not much heavier than a gateron black.Source (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2zvroz/massdrop_gateron_yellows_weaker_than_expected/). It looks like they totally changed the characteristics. I myself wondered where you would use 170g switches.
Post by: PunksDead on Mon, 23 March 2015, 03:26:49
anyone have more info about the gateron yellows massdrop just shipped out? People are reporting that it's not much heavier than a gateron black.Source (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2zvroz/massdrop_gateron_yellows_weaker_than_expected/). It looks like they totally changed the characteristics. I myself wondered where you would use 170g switches.
Iputoneonmyspacebarlastnight.Theyfeelamazing!
Post by: lolpes on Mon, 23 March 2015, 06:18:38
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 23 March 2015, 06:24:18
Haha, nice one.anyone have more info about the gateron yellows massdrop just shipped out? People are reporting that it's not much heavier than a gateron black.Source (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2zvroz/massdrop_gateron_yellows_weaker_than_expected/). It looks like they totally changed the characteristics. I myself wondered where you would use 170g switches.
Iputoneonmyspacebarlastnight.Theyfeelamazing!
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 23 March 2015, 06:40:06
hey, i ordered some browns from here, but completely forgot to pay the invoice :-[ I have it still, but it says payment was due 16th March, can i still pay it to have the switches? sorry :/
Yes, just pay and your order will be fulfilled.
To everyone else, I'll appreciate either you pay for your invoice ASAP, PM me about certain reasons you need to delay payment, or inform me that you want to cancel your order.
I cannot stand open orders just lingering in space with no resolution. One day I might just cancel all outstanding orders.........
Post by: mecano on Tue, 24 March 2015, 07:00:13
(I was part of the list that got less charged than expected for shipping, I had to issue a complementary payment).
Are you sending reminders to birdbrains?
Post by: impreziv on Tue, 24 March 2015, 12:57:11
Post by: vindaon on Tue, 24 March 2015, 13:03:05
Will the orders that are already paid be held up from shipping because there are still outstanding payments?
I don't think so, they already made the payment to Gateron.
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 24 March 2015, 13:06:46
Will the orders that are already paid be held up from shipping because there are still outstanding payments?
I don't think so, they already made the payment to Gateron.
They might have used the total funds collected (including shipping funds) to make that payment, who knows? So it might.
If unpaid orders do hold up shipping, I volunteer to bust heads. :mad:
PAY THOSE INVOICES, SLACKERS!!
Post by: ideus on Tue, 24 March 2015, 13:45:08
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Post by: Dihedral on Tue, 24 March 2015, 13:47:10
I cannot believe people commit to pay, and then, they just do not do it.
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This is a massive GB. It was sadly inevitable.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 24 March 2015, 14:18:28
Post by: mecano on Tue, 24 March 2015, 16:48:41
(I was part of the list that got less charged than expected for shipping, I had to issue a complementary payment).
Which I did as soon as I got the message of course ;D
They might have used the total funds collected (including shipping funds) to make that payment, who knows? So it might.
If unpaid orders do hold up shipping, I volunteer to bust heads. :mad:
PAY THOSE INVOICES, SLACKERS!!
YEAH!
And if you do give out names, we'll hang'em by the feet, paint'em with honey, scorch'em, boil'em, fry'em, have goats lick their toes, then giv'em to the fire ants! (not necessarily in that order).
Post by: mecano on Tue, 24 March 2015, 16:55:33
I cannot believe people commit to pay, and then, they just do not do it.
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That's interesting what is this amp she is slapping?
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 24 March 2015, 18:06:53
Will the orders that are already paid be held up from shipping because there are still outstanding payments?
I don't think so, they already made the payment to Gateron.
They might have used the total funds collected (including shipping funds) to make that payment, who knows? So it might.
If unpaid orders do hold up shipping, I volunteer to bust heads. :mad:
PAY THOSE INVOICES, SLACKERS!!
And my PayPal just got unlocked. Whee.
I paid using my own money to Gateron, now I'll withdraw the money from PayPal slowly before they go crazy and lock my account again.......
And no, it will not hold up shipping, I will just save those leftovers for a post GB sale at a slightly more expensive price maybe?
Post by: mecano on Tue, 24 March 2015, 18:16:32
Will the orders that are already paid be held up from shipping because there are still outstanding payments?
I don't think so, they already made the payment to Gateron.
They might have used the total funds collected (including shipping funds) to make that payment, who knows? So it might.
If unpaid orders do hold up shipping, I volunteer to bust heads. :mad:
PAY THOSE INVOICES, SLACKERS!!
And my PayPal just got unlocked. Whee.
I paid using my own money to Gateron, now I'll withdraw the money from PayPal slowly before they go crazy and lock my account again.......
And no, it will not hold up shipping, I will just save those leftovers for a post GB sale at a slightly more expensive price maybe?
That's really great of you Shadovved.
I'm sure the leftovers will get acquired pretty fast ;)
Now in he meantime if you could give out the names, so we'll hang'em by the feet, paint'em with honey, scorch'em, boil'em, fry'em, have goats lick their toes, then giv'em to the fire ants! (not necessarily in that order).
Post by: ideus on Tue, 24 March 2015, 19:20:53
Post by: qwack on Tue, 24 March 2015, 19:48:55
And no, it will not hold up shipping, I will just save those leftovers for a post GB sale at a slightly more expensive price maybe?
That would seem fair.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 24 March 2015, 19:58:51
Post by: ImBZppl on Tue, 24 March 2015, 20:40:44
Post by: ThatRusty on Tue, 24 March 2015, 21:04:16
And no, it will not hold up shipping, I will just save those leftovers for a post GB sale at a slightly more expensive price maybe?
That would seem fair.
Sounds like a good plan to me! :thumb:
Post by: mecano on Wed, 25 March 2015, 05:35:04
I paid right? I was sent an incorrect invoice and then a corrected one I am hoping that the incorrect one is still not lingering. :-[
I'm in the same situation, hence my previous questions.
Ordered, ask to change order to add more switches, received confirmation, received invoice, ask to correct invoice to reflect changed quantities at step 2, received second invoice, paid, received shipping correction message, wonder if I should get more switches decided not to, paid, wonder if everything is ok, heard about people being fried and whipped, start to be afraid
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 25 March 2015, 05:40:50
I paid right? I was sent an incorrect invoice and then a corrected one I am hoping that the incorrect one is still not lingering. :-[
I'm in the same situation, hence my previous questions.
Ordered, ask to change order to add more switches, received confirmation, received invoice, ask to correct invoice to reflect changed quantities at step 2, received second invoice, paid, received shipping correction message, wonder if I should get more switches decided not to, paid, wonder if everything is ok, heard about people being fried and whipped, start to be afraid
Yes people, when I correct your invoice, it's an edit, NOT A NEW INVOICE.
So you should receive a notification that your invoice has been EDITED.
Unless you already paid for your invoice, then I'll send you a new invoice for the add-ons or partial/full refunds for reductions/cancellations.
THAT DOES NOT SUGGEST I ENCOURAGE CANCELLATIONS. >(
Post by: jorgenslee on Wed, 25 March 2015, 11:06:31
How long are we able to add switches/tops to our orders? I'm contemplating on adding some switches but don't have the funds right now.
Post by: QuiGonJinn on Wed, 25 March 2015, 12:38:54
Post by: Willyc277 on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:57:04
Is this whole process with new invoices and cancellations going to delay the order for everyone?
Will the orders that are already paid be held up from shipping because there are still outstanding payments?
I don't think so, they already made the payment to Gateron.
They might have used the total funds collected (including shipping funds) to make that payment, who knows? So it might.
If unpaid orders do hold up shipping, I volunteer to bust heads. :mad:
PAY THOSE INVOICES, SLACKERS!!
And my PayPal just got unlocked. Whee.
I paid using my own money to Gateron, now I'll withdraw the money from PayPal slowly before they go crazy and lock my account again.......
And no, it will not hold up shipping, I will just save those leftovers for a post GB sale at a slightly more expensive price maybe?
Reading is hard.
Post by: swill on Wed, 25 March 2015, 21:07:29
Is this whole process with new invoices and cancellations going to delay the order for everyone?No. He just said that...
Post by: swill on Wed, 25 March 2015, 21:10:21
And no, it will not hold up shipping, I will just save those leftovers for a post GB sale at a slightly more expensive price maybe?
I think that is a good idea. Recoup the interest on your money. :). Thanks for putting your own money up, that was very kind if you and not required. It will make everything go quicker, so that is awesome.
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 26 March 2015, 04:55:02
And no, it will not hold up shipping, I will just save those leftovers for a post GB sale at a slightly more expensive price maybe?
I think that is a good idea. Recoup the interest on your money. :). Thanks for putting your own money up, that was very kind if you and not required. It will make everything go quicker, so that is awesome.
I'll probably open up ordering for those who want to buy now to PM me ASAP. If I can clear, then no need for post-GB sale?
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 26 March 2015, 08:11:52
Post by: domoe on Thu, 26 March 2015, 18:40:50
And no, it will not hold up shipping, I will just save those leftovers for a post GB sale at a slightly more expensive price maybe?
I think that is a good idea. Recoup the interest on your money. :). Thanks for putting your own money up, that was very kind if you and not required. It will make everything go quicker, so that is awesome.
I'll probably open up ordering for those who want to buy now to PM me ASAP. If I can clear, then no need for post-GB sale?
PM'd
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 26 March 2015, 19:39:39
Post by: ideus on Thu, 26 March 2015, 19:46:01
Post by: Lpwl on Thu, 26 March 2015, 20:43:28
My GON Nerd60 arrived, I just need these switches to get it to life.
Same thing ! :p
Post by: ccc24 on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:16:06
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:34:47
Post by: Willyc277 on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:38:34
Post by: ideus on Sat, 28 March 2015, 00:16:59
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sat, 28 March 2015, 00:37:24
they're coming boys..prepare your irons!
In Transit??
(http://i.giphy.com/8tOIo4awj9pxS.gif)
Better make an order at GONs website quick, brb... xD
Post by: justify on Sat, 28 March 2015, 09:00:17
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 28 March 2015, 09:00:57
Who makes gateron switches?
Gateron, of course :p
Post by: justify on Sat, 28 March 2015, 09:14:12
I tried googling them but all I got was taobao links, do you have a website? :PWho makes gateron switches?
Gateron, of course :p
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 28 March 2015, 09:14:16
Do they have website or contact persons? I haven't seen anything online.Who makes gateron switches?
Gateron, of course
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 28 March 2015, 09:16:58
Do they have website or contact persons? I haven't seen anything online.Who makes gateron switches?
Gateron, of course
They have an entry in kinda the yellow pages of China......that's about it.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 28 March 2015, 09:26:49
Lel sketchyDo they have website or contact persons? I haven't seen anything online.Who makes gateron switches?
Gateron, of course
They have an entry in kinda the yellow pages of China......that's about it.
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 28 March 2015, 09:30:57
Lel sketchyDo they have website or contact persons? I haven't seen anything online.Who makes gateron switches?
Gateron, of course
They have an entry in kinda the yellow pages of China......that's about it.
They are a small factory to begin with.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 28 March 2015, 10:19:44
Lel sketchyDo they have website or contact persons? I haven't seen anything online.Who makes gateron switches?
Gateron, of course
They have an entry in kinda the yellow pages of China......that's about it.
They are a small factory to begin with.
Yeah, i understand :)
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 29 March 2015, 09:27:55
Post by: qwack on Sun, 29 March 2015, 09:35:28
Post by: Bigpock on Sun, 29 March 2015, 11:00:22
100 Switches (black) ordered!
Post by: Dihedral on Sun, 29 March 2015, 11:09:41
Attempting to build my own keyboard for the first time!
100 Switches (black) ordered!
What board are you making - keep us posted!
Post by: Sygaldry on Sun, 29 March 2015, 11:12:49
Me want in!
Post by: Bigpock on Sun, 29 March 2015, 12:43:44
Attempting to build my own keyboard for the first time!
100 Switches (black) ordered!
What board are you making - keep us posted!
I'm not final on what exactly I want, I think I'm looking for a 70% layout. Not sure how ill design the bottom case but I plan on buying one of those top plates from ortholinearkeyboards.com/
Post by: retrochick on Sun, 29 March 2015, 12:52:34
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 29 March 2015, 16:50:16
Do you have a rough estimate of how many switch of each type have been cancelled? Just to give us an idea of what we should get to help.Well, we had around 30 cancelations, and a handful have been taken over so far
Post by: ideus on Sun, 29 March 2015, 16:52:41
Do you have a rough estimate of how many switch of each type have been cancelled? Just to give us an idea of what we should get to help.Well, we had around 30 cancelations, and a handful have been taken over so far
If you publish the list of the remaining cancelled orders with quantities, some people may get them as they are; well, unless you do not care about exact quantities.
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 29 March 2015, 16:53:53
I mean, since the switches are being delivered in bulk, it doesn't really matter how the orders are split up at this pointDo you have a rough estimate of how many switch of each type have been cancelled? Just to give us an idea of what we should get to help.Well, we had around 30 cancelations, and a handful have been taken over so far
If you publish the list of the remaining cancelled orders with quantities, some people may get them as they are; well, unless you do not care about exact quantities.
Post by: ideus on Sun, 29 March 2015, 16:56:33
I mean, since the switches are being delivered in bulk, it doesn't really matter how the orders are split up at this pointDo you have a rough estimate of how many switch of each type have been cancelled? Just to give us an idea of what we should get to help.Well, we had around 30 cancelations, and a handful have been taken over so far
If you publish the list of the remaining cancelled orders with quantities, some people may get them as they are; well, unless you do not care about exact quantities.
Of course sir.
Post by: Hoaryhag on Mon, 30 March 2015, 11:40:01
Post by: snipars on Mon, 30 March 2015, 11:51:32
Post by: Slaine777 on Mon, 30 March 2015, 12:42:02
Post by: Dihedral on Mon, 30 March 2015, 13:38:52
is there any ETA on when everyone will be getting these switches?
When you do another montage parody :)
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 30 March 2015, 13:50:17
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 30 March 2015, 14:07:06
Post by: macmakkara on Mon, 30 March 2015, 14:10:15
Post by: Mooksie on Mon, 30 March 2015, 17:10:26
Post by: retrochick on Mon, 30 March 2015, 17:50:57
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 30 March 2015, 17:52:39
Invoice paid! Totally going to give my QFR a makeover with Gateron Blacks :DI did that this past weekend with my Filco 104. :)
Post by: retrochick on Mon, 30 March 2015, 18:33:58
Very very cool! Are you planning on doing a write up? Would love to read about how you accomplished it and if there are any gotchas you encountered. This will be my first time desoldering/soldering. Nervous but ready.Invoice paid! Totally going to give my QFR a makeover with Gateron Blacks :DI did that this past weekend with my Filco 104. :)
Post by: Mooksie on Tue, 31 March 2015, 10:32:57
Post by: snipars on Tue, 31 March 2015, 12:36:35
is there any ETA on when everyone will be getting these switches?
When you do another montage parody :)
oh so never k
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 02 April 2015, 14:11:55
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 02 April 2015, 14:13:33
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 02 April 2015, 14:33:15
Is there any ETA for shipping?
I'm also curious about this, I've got a hot new project board that needs switches! :)
Post by: Mooksie on Thu, 02 April 2015, 17:01:03
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Thu, 02 April 2015, 17:09:46
Is there any ETA for shipping?
I'm also curious about this, I've got a hot new project board that needs switches! :)
Just one project? I have 3! :))
Post by: FunkMasterJ on Thu, 02 April 2015, 20:18:36
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 02 April 2015, 22:09:32
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 02 April 2015, 23:48:16
Is there any ETA for shipping?
The switches are sitting within some warehouse waiting for the next available pallet to Singapore.
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 03 April 2015, 00:06:28
Just 3, I have 20 steel mountplates ordered to my house...Is there any ETA for shipping?
I'm also curious about this, I've got a hot new project board that needs switches! :)
Just one project? I have 3! :))
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 03 April 2015, 01:11:51
Is there any ETA for shipping?
The switches are sitting within some warehouse waiting for the next available pallet to Singapore.
Thanks for the update.
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 03 April 2015, 02:16:45
Is there any ETA for shipping?
The switches are sitting within some warehouse waiting for the next available pallet to Singapore.
Thanks for the update Shadovved.
Post by: Want on Fri, 03 April 2015, 08:08:05
Is there any ETA for shipping?
The switches are sitting within some warehouse waiting for the next available pallet to Singapore.
This is great, Gateron is pretty fast, thanks for the update :)
I PM'd you about an addition to my order btw, are extra orders coming along okay?
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 03 April 2015, 08:11:01
Is there any ETA for shipping?
The switches are sitting within some warehouse waiting for the next available pallet to Singapore.
This is great, Gateron is pretty fast, thanks for the update :)
I PM'd you about an addition to my order btw, are extra orders coming along okay?
I must have missed it out. PM me again.
Post by: Magna224 on Fri, 03 April 2015, 08:16:47
Invoice paid! Totally going to give my QFR a makeover with Gateron Blacks :D
Haha that's what I'm doing. I got some Vortex PBT too for it from massdrop as well not too long ago and if sprits case happens to fit it I might throw the QRF in there.
Post by: Want on Fri, 03 April 2015, 09:16:34
I must have missed it out. PM me again.
PM'd! Thanks again :D
Post by: ideus on Fri, 03 April 2015, 10:26:04
Is there any ETA for shipping?
The switches are sitting within some warehouse waiting for the next available pallet to Singapore.
Thanks for the update Shadovved.
My GON is ready for its Gateron goodness.
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 03 April 2015, 16:05:52
I guess I'll have to buy myself a GON to put the switches on it as well!Is there any ETA for shipping?
The switches are sitting within some warehouse waiting for the next available pallet to Singapore.
Thanks for the update Shadovved.
My GON is ready for its Gateron goodness.
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 03 April 2015, 16:50:07
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 03 April 2015, 21:37:52
Shadovved have you recieved my PM about the extra order?
Check your PM
Post by: thebornotaku on Sat, 04 April 2015, 02:13:19
Or find some boards on eBay with bad switches and convert them... anybody got a Poker or something with bad switches? :p
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 04 April 2015, 02:52:03
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Sat, 04 April 2015, 08:43:57
I did order 20 steel mounting plates from China, 60% ISO, Definetality has something to use the Gaterons on!
Where did you find them? Alibaba? Could you please send me a link? Thank you.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 04 April 2015, 08:46:48
Custom made by a Chinese company.I did order 20 steel mounting plates from China, 60% ISO, Definetality has something to use the Gaterons on!
Where did you find them? Alibaba? Could you please send me a link? Thank you.
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Sat, 04 April 2015, 08:52:31
Custom made by a Chinese company.I did order 20 steel mounting plates from China, 60% ISO, Definetality has something to use the Gaterons on!
Where did you find them? Alibaba? Could you please send me a link? Thank you.
I should have been more clear: I was talking about the company, not the plates.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 04 April 2015, 08:53:55
I think everyone who makes steel or aluminium plates will do it for you. Search on AliBaba. I cant find the manufacturer I used right now, but will post it when I find out.Custom made by a Chinese company.I did order 20 steel mounting plates from China, 60% ISO, Definetality has something to use the Gaterons on!
Where did you find them? Alibaba? Could you please send me a link? Thank you.
I should have been more clear: I was talking about the company, not the plates.
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 04 April 2015, 09:04:10
Shadovved have you recieved my PM about the extra order?
Check your PM
I haven't gotten anything from you :-0
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 04 April 2015, 13:30:46
Shadovved have you recieved my PM about the extra order?
Check your PM
I haven't gotten anything from you :-0
Then PM me again.
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 04 April 2015, 15:18:07
Shadovved have you recieved my PM about the extra order?
Check your PM
I haven't gotten anything from you :-0
Then PM me again.
Done.
Post by: LXXXIX on Sun, 05 April 2015, 12:27:43
Post by: retrochick on Sun, 05 April 2015, 13:58:28
Invoice paid! Totally going to give my QFR a makeover with Gateron Blacks :D
Haha that's what I'm doing. I got some Vortex PBT too for it from massdrop as well not too long ago and if sprits case happens to fit it I might throw the QRF in there.
That's going to be so awesome-looking. Please post pics when you're done!
Post by: ideus on Sun, 05 April 2015, 17:35:42
Post by: FreeCopy on Sun, 05 April 2015, 18:37:46
Post by: Naed on Sun, 05 April 2015, 20:41:19
Are these extra orders going to delay the overall group buy's timing?
I very much doubt it.
We would have heard something from either hwood34 or shadovved by now if it did (i hope) :)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 05 April 2015, 20:49:28
Post by: johndavis730 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 21:06:36
Post by: cmadrid on Sun, 05 April 2015, 21:22:41
I'm sorry but who would I contact for more orders?
Shadovved
Post by: dashing_girlboy on Sun, 05 April 2015, 21:38:05
Post by: retrochick on Sun, 05 April 2015, 22:00:44
Just got a call from PayPal regarding this group buy. Just a heads up for everyone here.
Care to elaborate?
Post by: Shadovved on Sun, 05 April 2015, 22:13:04
The switches were ordered based on the original order list and are apparently in transit or about to be shipped. The extras are being sold to get rid of the switches that were ordered for non-paying participants. So it shouldn't be a problem, although the GB could be delayed for other reasons.
Well it's slightly delayed because of the Good Friday weekend but because China celebrates it entirely different.
So I would receive my stuff by next week instead, they still have not shipped it yet.
Just got a call from PayPal regarding this group buy. Just a heads up for everyone here.
Care to elaborate?
Well. PayPal limited my account again.........I really would appreciate those people who cancel their own invoice to inform me and let me do it for them instead.
You do not tell me you want to join in the on the extras then cancel the invoice when it's sent to you without informing me at all........
-rage-
EDIT: and no, it will not become everyone's problem. GB still proceeds as planned.
EDIT2: and no, it's more likely they contacted you to investigate the terms of the GB etc, make sure it's not a scam.
Post by: Shadovved on Sun, 05 April 2015, 22:30:27
Post by: metafour on Sun, 05 April 2015, 22:54:36
Post by: dashing_girlboy on Mon, 06 April 2015, 02:29:41
Just got a call from PayPal regarding this group buy. Just a heads up for everyone here.
Care to elaborate?
Exactly what shadovved said. People have to stop canceling their order without informing him. The PayPal dude made extra effort to ensure I know what the hell I'm paying for and what information did shadovved conveyed to me. Obviously I know what I'm doing with the transactions and assured him about mine to shadovved. It is probably due to some people canceling or reporting this to get their refunds and all.
Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 06 April 2015, 03:41:37
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 06 April 2015, 07:56:13
Post by: derzemel on Mon, 06 April 2015, 09:28:40
Is the price still at of $0.16 per switch?
I missed the original GB and I need 2 more days to sort some expenses out. After that I would like to place an order for 120 Blacks.
Post by: joey on Mon, 06 April 2015, 14:22:01
How long will the "Taking extra orders" will last?
Is the price still at of $0.16 per switch?
I missed the original GB and I need 2 more days to sort some expenses out. After that I would like to place an order for 120 Blacks.
The price is the same, but this is not for extra orders, it's for people buying from cancelled orders.
Post by: qwack on Mon, 06 April 2015, 16:16:46
Btw, we need to stop accepting orders for everything except clear switches & transparent switch tops. The rest are near the quota (Y)
Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 06 April 2015, 16:23:53
Not sure buying Blacks is still an option at this point :Btw, we need to stop accepting orders for everything except clear switches & transparent switch tops. The rest are near the quota (Y)
I just got 60 Blacks:
PM'd for some extra Blacks :D
It's worth a try :thumb:
EDIT: 100 posts! :cool:
Post by: cmadrid on Mon, 06 April 2015, 18:25:46
Not sure buying Blacks is still an option at this point :Btw, we need to stop accepting orders for everything except clear switches & transparent switch tops. The rest are near the quota (Y)
I just got 60 Blacks:PM'd for some extra Blacks :D
It's worth a try :thumb:
EDIT: 100 posts! :cool:
Gratz, and yeah.. just send Shadovved a pm and he will let you know
Post by: qwack on Mon, 06 April 2015, 18:37:45
Post by: Gloomy Moonie on Mon, 06 April 2015, 20:04:51
Btw, do you guys have any idea whether the clear tops are as smooth as the stock tops?
Post by: Altis on Mon, 06 April 2015, 20:18:23
I wonder how 35g Clears and 45g Reds compare with MX Reds in terms of weight.
Post by: tjweir on Mon, 06 April 2015, 20:39:33
Any Gateron Clears or Reds available?
I wonder how 35g Clears and 45g Reds compare with MX Reds in terms of weight.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68145.msg1639775#msg1639775
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Mon, 06 April 2015, 21:57:15
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 07 April 2015, 02:06:34
I'm going through my second round of "I can't decide if I should order." lol
Then just order a little amount like 100 or 200, so you have a least some to build a TKL or a 60%. If you don't use them, just sell them afterwards.
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Tue, 07 April 2015, 04:46:34
Knowing reasons like that could infinitely spin out of control is what's keeping me hesitant. lmao XD
Post by: pryedthirdeye on Tue, 07 April 2015, 14:11:57
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 07 April 2015, 14:19:34
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 07 April 2015, 17:06:09
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 07 April 2015, 17:48:33
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 08 April 2015, 05:42:42
updated the OP, sorry about that
We are outta clears as well, I need to maintain a small buffer for accidents.
Just an FYI: Shadovved told me, that there are still 2000-3000 clear switch tops left - so you still can happily order some of those ;)
And yes, we still have switch tops.....only switch tops left.
Post by: Zeroo on Wed, 08 April 2015, 06:10:33
Post by: derzemel on Wed, 08 April 2015, 07:39:27
I was just about to ask for 120 blacks :(
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 08 April 2015, 11:38:22
Post by: agbockus on Wed, 08 April 2015, 13:40:07
Or I guess I can just try and order some from Zeal? I don't know.
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 08 April 2015, 13:55:43
I just changed the layout of the custom I want to build last night....and now I need 11 more clear switches...so if anyone ordered way over what they need (in the US) and ends up wanting to sell them or something, then please let me know!That's calculated very tightly. I would always order some overhead in case something goes wrong, especially when only $.16 per switch.
Or I guess I can just try and order some from Zeal? I don't know.
Post by: Ngt on Wed, 08 April 2015, 13:58:35
I just changed the layout of the custom I want to build last night....and now I need 11 more clear switches...so if anyone ordered way over what they need (in the US) and ends up wanting to sell them or something, then please let me know!That's calculated very tightly. I would always order some overhead in case something goes wrong, especially when only $.16 per switch.
Or I guess I can just try and order some from Zeal? I don't know.
Didn't Shadovved say there weren't anymore switches left as he wanted to keep some stock in case a problem happens?
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 08 April 2015, 15:31:49
YepI just changed the layout of the custom I want to build last night....and now I need 11 more clear switches...so if anyone ordered way over what they need (in the US) and ends up wanting to sell them or something, then please let me know!That's calculated very tightly. I would always order some overhead in case something goes wrong, especially when only $.16 per switch.
Or I guess I can just try and order some from Zeal? I don't know.
Didn't Shadovved say there weren't anymore switches left as he wanted to keep some stock in case a problem happens?
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 08 April 2015, 17:18:10
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Wed, 08 April 2015, 19:16:03
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 08 April 2015, 21:01:50
Would it be possible to add like just four blue switches to my order or is it really sold out?
PM me after the GB, when I'm sending the packages out.
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 08 April 2015, 21:16:10
Post by: LXXXIX on Wed, 08 April 2015, 22:21:39
Would it be possible to add like just four blue switches to my order or is it really sold out?
PM me after the GB, when I'm sending the packages out.
How soon is that? :p
Post by: Thechemist on Wed, 08 April 2015, 23:40:39
I can give up my blues in exchange for blacks, if anyone's interested.
Btw, do you guys have any idea whether the clear tops are as smooth as the stock tops?
I can't tell if the clear tops are smoother but they sure fit more snug than the stock clear tops. The stock tops feel like cherry tops while the clear tops have a tighter fit to the bottom of the switch. The actual movement of the stem in the top I haven't tested but I prefer the clear switch tops to the stock Gateron tops.
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 09 April 2015, 00:58:59
Post by: Magna224 on Thu, 09 April 2015, 04:18:29
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 09 April 2015, 04:26:03
I might be interested in like 80 of the 35g linears if you have some left to add to my order.
updated the OP, sorry about that
We are outta clears as well, I need to maintain a small buffer for accidents.Just an FYI: Shadovved told me, that there are still 2000-3000 clear switch tops left - so you still can happily order some of those ;)
And yes, we still have switch tops.....only switch tops left.
Post by: Mooksie on Thu, 09 April 2015, 11:45:11
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 09 April 2015, 11:48:10
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 09 April 2015, 17:43:34
Shaddoved: you got the switches in your house now?
Any update on the ETA?
They just shipped out from China......slight delay expected, but should be able to send everything out by end of this month.
Post by: Gloomy Moonie on Thu, 09 April 2015, 17:47:27
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 09 April 2015, 17:49:13
Where are you sending them from? US?Singapore
Post by: ideus on Thu, 09 April 2015, 22:17:21
Gotta fill em with Gaterons :)
What plates are these? You made them?
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 09 April 2015, 22:31:57
ISO 60%. I got them cut in China.Gotta fill em with Gaterons :)
What plates are these? You made them?
Post by: daviswalkers on Sun, 12 April 2015, 01:21:00
Post by: wlhlm on Sun, 12 April 2015, 01:56:06
Am I missing something, the whole "clear vs stock tops" I was under the impression if I ordered say, 100xClear Switches that I would be getting 100xGateron Clear Switches with the Clear top? Or do I need to order the switches and the tops?Yes, you have to order them separately. The switches sold in this group buy are translucent, but milky. The extra switch tops are more clear.
Post by: daviswalkers on Sun, 12 April 2015, 02:33:31
Good to know -_- glad I caught this nowAm I missing something, the whole "clear vs stock tops" I was under the impression if I ordered say, 100xClear Switches that I would be getting 100xGateron Clear Switches with the Clear top? Or do I need to order the switches and the tops?Yes, you have to order them separately. The switches sold in this group buy are translucent, but milky. The extra switch tops are more clear.
Post by: awhitedev on Sun, 12 April 2015, 12:00:16
Shaddoved: you got the switches in your house now?Any update on the ETA?
They just shipped out from China......slight delay expected, but should be able to send everything out by end of this month.
Sounds great Shadovved! Keep us posted :D
Post by: Bromono on Sun, 12 April 2015, 12:31:53
Post by: duckness on Sun, 12 April 2015, 12:34:10
I forgot what I ordered o.o anyway to see what I did order?
check your Paypal invoice?
Post by: Bromono on Sun, 12 April 2015, 12:43:41
I forgot what I ordered o.o anyway to see what I did order?
check your Paypal invoice?
nvm found it. 70 black :)
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 13 April 2015, 06:50:21
imsto, SP, GMK, new PBT set.
(http://i.imgur.com/tffJ9AZ.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/5eisVzM.jpg)
Imsto vs new PBT & GMK
(http://i.imgur.com/b4h5Gas.jpg)
Grey comparison to GH gold pack set
(http://i.imgur.com/g0aSNWS.jpg)
Full set & spacebar
(http://i.imgur.com/VTYKBn0.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/3KYKn7V.jpg)
Colours (dark grey, light grey, beige, cool white, blinded by white.......dont use a full set of this)
(http://i.imgur.com/upcESMe.jpg)
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 13 April 2015, 07:12:40
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 13 April 2015, 07:16:20
Those look very good. I must have missed that ICSame here
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 13 April 2015, 07:20:27
Those look very good. I must have missed that IC
Those look very good. I must have missed that ICSame here
It was together with my switch top GB, but due to lacking interest the GB fell through.
I'm intending to run it again after I settle the Gateron, probably June?
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 13 April 2015, 07:21:07
Interested :)Those look very good. I must have missed that ICThose look very good. I must have missed that ICSame here
It was together with my switch top GB, but due to lacking interest the GB fell through.
I'm intending to run it again after I settle the Gateron, probably June?
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 13 April 2015, 17:56:47
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 13 April 2015, 18:31:58
Post by: rsac on Tue, 14 April 2015, 09:27:00
It's rather amusing to me that black stems are the least valued of the MX switches and yet apparently the most valued of the gateron switches. MX black has typically been the slowest seller, and that Pok3r GB only offered red, blue, brown, and clear, for example. I wonder if the glowing reviews from linear switch lovers have kicked up a little #hype storm.Those Gateron blacks are quite unique, not being as stiff as MX Blacks, but stiffer than MX Reds. They are supposedly smoother than MX ones too.
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 14 April 2015, 11:50:25
It's rather amusing to me that black stems are the least valued of the MX switches and yet apparently the most valued of the gateron switches. MX black has typically been the slowest seller, and that Pok3r GB only offered red, blue, brown, and clear, for example. I wonder if the glowing reviews from linear switch lovers have kicked up a little #hype storm.Those Gateron blacks are quite unique, not being as stiff as MX Blacks, but stiffer than MX Reds. They are supposedly smoother than MX ones too.
They definitely are smoother.
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 14 April 2015, 13:35:12
Post by: ideus on Tue, 14 April 2015, 13:58:43
I finally got my PBT set samples......from my IC thread.
imsto, SP, GMK, new PBT set.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tffJ9AZ.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5eisVzM.jpg)
Imsto vs new PBT & GMKShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/b4h5Gas.jpg)
Grey comparison to GH gold pack setShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/g0aSNWS.jpg)
Full set & spacebarShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/VTYKBn0.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3KYKn7V.jpg)
Colours (dark grey, light grey, beige, cool white, blinded by white.......dont use a full set of this)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/upcESMe.jpg)
That space bar with multiple stems looks nice.
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 14 April 2015, 16:56:59
This calls for a double-blind study
I have a switch tester with a stock MX black and a gBlack side by side. I'll try to make a blind test when I'll find someone to help with it. :)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Tue, 14 April 2015, 19:35:56
Colours (dark grey, light grey, beige, cool white, blinded by white.......dont use a full set of this)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/upcESMe.jpg)
Woah, seems like I missed out on this IC as well! Ö_Ö
That far right 'blinded by white' looks super interesting!
It somehow looks very smooth or soft, almost Jelly POM like!
Is it slightly translucent or just very glossy? Why not use a full set of these, will you go blind? xD
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 14 April 2015, 22:03:58
Colours (dark grey, light grey, beige, cool white, blinded by white.......dont use a full set of this)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/upcESMe.jpg)
Woah, seems like I missed out on this IC as well! �_�
That far right 'blinded by white' looks super interesting!
It somehow looks very smooth or soft, almost Jelly POM like!
Is it slightly translucent or just very glossy? Why not use a full set of these, will you go blind? xD
It's the same PBT material, but it's just super glaring when I look at a ziplock bag of it.
I'll probably only run the GB in the first all 5 colours if the glaring white receives enough attention, or else I'll just combine both whites to the normal one and run 4 colours.
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 14 April 2015, 22:09:13
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 15 April 2015, 01:56:32
Blanks only?
Blanks first. To build up the relationship before I go into dye-subs.
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 15 April 2015, 02:06:08
Should be able to pickup by Friday :))
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 15 April 2015, 02:16:36
Oh, and I just received news the Gateron stuff will be arriving tomorrow.
Should be able to pickup by Friday :))
yeeeee
You know we will need pictures of this massive batch of switches right?!
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 15 April 2015, 02:21:45
Oh, and I just received news the Gateron stuff will be arriving tomorrow.
Should be able to pickup by Friday :))
yeeeee
You know we will need pictures of this massive batch of switches right?!
I'll take pictures when I visit the warehouse building, and when I get back :D
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 15 April 2015, 02:25:45
Also a though I had the other day, if you're in direct contact with gateron, you should suggest them to do ergo-clear like switches :)
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Wed, 15 April 2015, 02:32:07
Oh, and I just received news the Gateron stuff will be arriving tomorrow.
Should be able to pickup by Friday :))
Sweeeet
Can't want for the next update
Thanks for keeping us in the loop :)
Post by: Ngt on Wed, 15 April 2015, 02:45:22
Oh, and I just received news the Gateron stuff will be arriving tomorrow.
Should be able to pickup by Friday :))
yeeeee
You know we will need pictures of this massive batch of switches right?!
I'll take pictures when I visit the warehouse building, and when I get back :D
Hehe looking forward to these funny pictures!
Post by: joey on Wed, 15 April 2015, 03:29:49
Fantastic.yeaaaaa!
Also a though I had the other day, if you're in direct contact with gateron, you should suggest them to do ergo-clear like switches :)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 15 April 2015, 07:34:36
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 15 April 2015, 07:39:01
We want to see a bunch of boxes, a pile of switches, and small packages arriving at our doors.
Soon
Post by: Mooksie on Wed, 15 April 2015, 07:48:47
Post by: Red_dino on Wed, 15 April 2015, 15:55:01
Just out of curiosity, roughly how long does it take to ship from Singapore to the U.S.?
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 15 April 2015, 16:52:49
Can't wait to get my blacks! ;DYes, i can't seem to find it online.
Just out of curiosity, roughly how long does it take to ship from Singapore to the U.S.?
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 15 April 2015, 16:57:31
But I've had packages taking less than a week to do ASIA=>Europe, so should be about the same shipping time for murica.
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 15 April 2015, 16:58:46
murica.
Murica
Post by: Red_dino on Wed, 15 April 2015, 17:06:28
The shipping time is probably not really revelant here since most of the waiting time will be because of the time it will take to shadovved to sort out, and package more than 100.000 switches.That's a good point, we definitely owe Shadovved a big thanks for dealing with all of those switches for us! :thumb: I guess I'll just have to be patient.
But I've had packages taking less than a week to do ASIA=>Europe, so should be about the same shipping time for murica.
Post by: retrochick on Wed, 15 April 2015, 17:47:47
Post by: awhitedev on Wed, 15 April 2015, 19:44:22
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 15 April 2015, 21:56:56
So for us murica buyers.... these are being shipped to Shadovved in Singapore then out to hwood in the US to distribute? Do I have that right?
Not only Murica buyers. Everyone. Russia to UK to Brazil to Australia.
Shipping time is estimated to be 7-10 days. And if your country is known to have inefficient customs.....then expect delays.
And I shall attempt to clear the switches in record time. Do I get a prize? :p
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 15 April 2015, 22:04:39
So for us murica buyers.... these are being shipped to Shadovved in Singapore then out to hwood in the US to distribute? Do I have that right?
Not only Murica buyers. Everyone. Russia to UK to Brazil to Australia.
Shipping time is estimated to be 7-10 days. And if your country is known to have inefficient customs.....then expect delays.
And I shall attempt to clear the switches in record time. Do I get a prize? :p
Copious high-fives :cool:
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 16 April 2015, 00:05:06
Post by: infiniti on Thu, 16 April 2015, 07:41:51
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P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
Post by: LXXXIX on Thu, 16 April 2015, 07:49:57
GATERON HAS LANDED!
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P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
Nice! Glad everything came in. Be careful though Shadovved. :'(
Post by: CyriusG on Thu, 16 April 2015, 07:54:37
Post by: ideus on Thu, 16 April 2015, 08:21:54
Post by: leesofi on Thu, 16 April 2015, 08:23:48
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 16 April 2015, 08:35:31
Post by: ideus on Thu, 16 April 2015, 08:37:37
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 16 April 2015, 08:54:33
GATERON HAS LANDED!
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
HEY HEY. I had to carry it up FOUR FLOORS OF STAIRS.
My arms and legs are jelly now.......I shall rest for now.
I folded some boxes already. Any more and I'll be visiting the ER.
(http://i.imgur.com/ARNQaF5.jpg)
Post by: greath on Thu, 16 April 2015, 08:57:07
(http://i.imgur.com/1HP2GV8.gif)
Post by: infiniti on Thu, 16 April 2015, 09:18:01
GATERON HAS LANDED!
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
HEY HEY. I had to carry it up FOUR FLOORS OF STAIRS.
My arms and legs are jelly now.......I shall rest for now.
I folded some boxes already. Any more and I'll be visiting the ER.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ARNQaF5.jpg)
HE LIVES! :thumb:
WHAT GOES UP MUST COME DOWN *weep*
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 16 April 2015, 09:20:46
GATERON HAS LANDED!
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
HEY HEY. I had to carry it up FOUR FLOORS OF STAIRS.
My arms and legs are jelly now.......I shall rest for now.
I folded some boxes already. Any more and I'll be visiting the ER.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ARNQaF5.jpg)
HE LIVES! :thumb:
WHAT GOES UP MUST COME DOWN *weep*
Dont you remind me on that now.
CROWDFUNDING FOR MY NEW LANDED PROPERTY :p
Post by: awhitedev on Thu, 16 April 2015, 09:44:36
So for us murica buyers.... these are being shipped to Shadovved in Singapore then out to hwood in the US to distribute? Do I have that right?
Not only Murica buyers. Everyone. Russia to UK to Brazil to Australia.
Shipping time is estimated to be 7-10 days. And if your country is known to have inefficient customs.....then expect delays.
And I shall attempt to clear the switches in record time. Do I get a prize? :p
You sir get a prize for being awesome and coordinating a great GB for us. hwood too - he's going to have a lot to sort through when he receives them in the US. :)
GATERON HAS LANDED!
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
HEY HEY. I had to carry it up FOUR FLOORS OF STAIRS.
My arms and legs are jelly now.......I shall rest for now.
I folded some boxes already. Any more and I'll be visiting the ER.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ARNQaF5.jpg)
HE LIVES! :thumb:
WHAT GOES UP MUST COME DOWN *weep*
Dont you remind me on that now.
CROWDFUNDING FOR MY NEW LANDED PROPERTY :p
Those boxes! wow! That's a lot to carry up 4 flights of stairs :)) That must've taken quite a few trips huh?
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 16 April 2015, 09:50:00
So for us murica buyers.... these are being shipped to Shadovved in Singapore then out to hwood in the US to distribute? Do I have that right?
Not only Murica buyers. Everyone. Russia to UK to Brazil to Australia.
Shipping time is estimated to be 7-10 days. And if your country is known to have inefficient customs.....then expect delays.
And I shall attempt to clear the switches in record time. Do I get a prize? :p
You sir get a prize for being awesome and coordinating a great GB for us. hwood too - he's going to have a lot to sort through when he receives them in the US. :)GATERON HAS LANDED!
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
HEY HEY. I had to carry it up FOUR FLOORS OF STAIRS.
My arms and legs are jelly now.......I shall rest for now.
I folded some boxes already. Any more and I'll be visiting the ER.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ARNQaF5.jpg)
HE LIVES! :thumb:
WHAT GOES UP MUST COME DOWN *weep*
Dont you remind me on that now.
CROWDFUNDING FOR MY NEW LANDED PROPERTY :p
Those boxes! wow! That's a lot to carry up 4 flights of stairs :)) That must've taken quite a few trips huh?
I'm sorting everything and posting directly. You get your stuff from me, not hwood.
And it took me nearly 30 trips because one box is more than 5kg (3200 switches).....I can only carry two at a time.
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 16 April 2015, 09:52:37
And it took me nearly 30 trips because one box is more than 5kg (3200 switches).....I can only carry two at a time.
Damn son!
Post by: Dee1 on Thu, 16 April 2015, 09:58:39
Post by: ideus on Thu, 16 April 2015, 09:59:19
Post by: retrochick on Thu, 16 April 2015, 10:06:44
Post by: SigLogical on Thu, 16 April 2015, 10:09:54
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 16 April 2015, 10:10:12
Shadovved right now:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1HP2GV8.gif)
Swimming in Gaterons...
(http://i.giphy.com/NCRTtvV85apoc.gif)
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 16 April 2015, 10:19:04
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 16 April 2015, 10:31:37
Post by: Lpwl on Thu, 16 April 2015, 10:49:14
Impressive !
Post by: cmadrid on Thu, 16 April 2015, 11:30:42
Post by: awhitedev on Thu, 16 April 2015, 11:40:32
So for us murica buyers.... these are being shipped to Shadovved in Singapore then out to hwood in the US to distribute? Do I have that right?
Not only Murica buyers. Everyone. Russia to UK to Brazil to Australia.
Shipping time is estimated to be 7-10 days. And if your country is known to have inefficient customs.....then expect delays.
And I shall attempt to clear the switches in record time. Do I get a prize? :p
You sir get a prize for being awesome and coordinating a great GB for us. hwood too - he's going to have a lot to sort through when he receives them in the US. :)GATERON HAS LANDED!
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
HEY HEY. I had to carry it up FOUR FLOORS OF STAIRS.
My arms and legs are jelly now.......I shall rest for now.
I folded some boxes already. Any more and I'll be visiting the ER.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ARNQaF5.jpg)
HE LIVES! :thumb:
WHAT GOES UP MUST COME DOWN *weep*
Dont you remind me on that now.
CROWDFUNDING FOR MY NEW LANDED PROPERTY :p
Those boxes! wow! That's a lot to carry up 4 flights of stairs :)) That must've taken quite a few trips huh?
I'm sorting everything and posting directly. You get your stuff from me, not hwood.
And it took me nearly 30 trips because one box is more than 5kg (3200 switches).....I can only carry two at a time.
Oh wow. That's a lot!
Post by: joey on Thu, 16 April 2015, 12:22:42
Post by: jonlorusso on Thu, 16 April 2015, 12:41:23
Post by: admiralvorian on Thu, 16 April 2015, 14:30:05
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 16 April 2015, 15:38:35
Post by: limster on Thu, 16 April 2015, 19:45:04
GATERON HAS LANDED!
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
shadovved, You. Are. The Man.
-Ho-leeee sh…
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 16 April 2015, 20:04:25
GATERON HAS LANDED!
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
A few switches I see.
Shadovved:
Says he's in the army but can't carry boxes upstairs?? How can we trust this man?! ;)
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Thu, 16 April 2015, 22:11:12
WowGATERON HAS LANDED!
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
HEY HEY. I had to carry it up FOUR FLOORS OF STAIRS.
My arms and legs are jelly now.......I shall rest for now.
I folded some boxes already. Any more and I'll be visiting the ER.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ARNQaF5.jpg)
Take it easy. Don't put yourself out of commission before you ship them out.
Post by: jorgenslee on Thu, 16 April 2015, 22:26:04
GATERON HAS LANDED!
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
Hey infiniti,
when will you be back to manila? Is there any chance you could hand carry some of the philippine orders? lol
Post by: ccc24 on Fri, 17 April 2015, 00:24:31
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 17 April 2015, 06:28:58
GATERON HAS LANDED!
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
A few switches I see.
Shadovved:
Says he's in the army but can't carry boxes upstairs?? How can we trust this man?! ;)
I am in clerical work. The heaviest thing I lift on a daily basis is the damn hole puncher. :p
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 17 April 2015, 09:58:59
Can we get more pictures when you are done resting? :)GATERON HAS LANDED!
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
A few switches I see.
Shadovved:
Says he's in the army but can't carry boxes upstairs?? How can we trust this man?! ;)
I am in clerical work. The heaviest thing I lift on a daily basis is the damn hole puncher.
Post by: justify on Fri, 17 April 2015, 10:10:33
Post by: infiniti on Fri, 17 April 2015, 10:30:45
GATERON HAS LANDED!
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
Hey infiniti,
when will you be back to manila? Is there any chance you could hand carry some of the philippine orders? lol
Haha I'm still in Manila...but I'll be in Singapore next week on a business trip and I don't think I can bring much back with me with all the work stuff I need to lug around. :( Sorry bro...
== == == == ==
GATERON HAS LANDED!
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
A few switches I see.
Shadovved:
Says he's in the army but can't carry boxes upstairs?? How can we trust this man?! ;)
I am in clerical work. The heaviest thing I lift on a daily basis is the damn hole puncher. :p
*cough* drone pilot *cough*
Post by: jorgenslee on Fri, 17 April 2015, 10:32:38
GATERON HAS LANDED!
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
Hey infiniti,
when will you be back to manila? Is there any chance you could hand carry some of the philippine orders? lol
Haha I'm still in Manila...but I'll be in Singapore next week on a business trip and I don't think I can bring much back with me with all the work stuff I need to lug around. :( Sorry bro...
No worries. :thumb: Just getting overexcited. lol
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 17 April 2015, 15:57:42
Post by: maximusprimate on Fri, 17 April 2015, 16:28:15
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 17 April 2015, 16:29:46
This is so awesome! Just in time for my new ortholinearkeyboards.com purchase!!Welcome to Geekhack! :thumb:
Post by: Mooksie on Fri, 17 April 2015, 21:36:42
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 18 April 2015, 05:53:03
Halfway through sorting, 200+ orders, should be able to ship by Tuesday latest, except for those who are pending shipping fees.
Thanks!
(http://i.imgur.com/c95Qljn.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/YDJCiVI.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/qcVXaMc.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/ghU2AMM.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/KcJhdQr.jpg)
Post by: Want on Sat, 18 April 2015, 06:24:42
Pics as requested. I will not be entertaining anymore order edits/address edits.
Halfway through sorting, 200+ orders, should be able to ship by Tuesday latest, except for those who are pending shipping fees.
Thanks!MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/c95Qljn.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YDJCiVI.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qcVXaMc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ghU2AMM.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KcJhdQr.jpg)
I want to bathe in them.
This doesn't make me weird right?
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 18 April 2015, 06:59:14
Post by: CyriusG on Sat, 18 April 2015, 07:19:29
Post by: Hzza on Sat, 18 April 2015, 07:34:40
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 18 April 2015, 07:40:36
Pics as requested. I will not be entertaining anymore order edits/address edits.
Halfway through sorting, 200+ orders, should be able to ship by Tuesday latest, except for those who are pending shipping fees.
Thanks!MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/c95Qljn.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YDJCiVI.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qcVXaMc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ghU2AMM.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KcJhdQr.jpg)
I want to bathe in them.
This doesn't make me weird right?
Me too. Separately from you of course. Bathing together in them would make us weird.
Post by: sprit on Sat, 18 April 2015, 07:41:37
I want to bathe in them.
This doesn't make me weird right?
I wish it's my pool too! The Gaterons I sampled feel great with minimal lube. :thumb:
Post by: HendyZone on Sat, 18 April 2015, 07:41:58
Pics as requested. I will not be entertaining anymore order edits/address edits.
Halfway through sorting, 200+ orders, should be able to ship by Tuesday latest, except for those who are pending shipping fees.
Thanks!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/c95Qljn.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YDJCiVI.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qcVXaMc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ghU2AMM.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KcJhdQr.jpg)
Gateron Swimming Pool :p
Good luck on sorting man :thumb:
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 18 April 2015, 07:42:56
Pics as requested. I will not be entertaining anymore order edits/address edits.
Halfway through sorting, 200+ orders, should be able to ship by Tuesday latest, except for those who are pending shipping fees.
Thanks!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/c95Qljn.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YDJCiVI.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qcVXaMc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ghU2AMM.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KcJhdQr.jpg)
You will ship directly from Singapore to everyone or will hwood to the handling?
Post by: azhdar on Sat, 18 April 2015, 07:46:46
Quote
Shipping Guidelines (we'll be using Singapore Post standard regular mail w/ added tracking)
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Sat, 18 April 2015, 08:01:26
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)I want to bathe in them.
This doesn't make me weird right?
I wish it's my pool too! The Gaterons I sampled feel great with minimal lube. :thumb:
Post by: awhitedev on Sat, 18 April 2015, 08:07:01
Pics as requested. I will not be entertaining anymore order edits/address edits.
Halfway through sorting, 200+ orders, should be able to ship by Tuesday latest, except for those who are pending shipping fees.
Thanks!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/c95Qljn.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YDJCiVI.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qcVXaMc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ghU2AMM.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KcJhdQr.jpg)
You will ship directly from Singapore to everyone or will hwood to the handling?
He said he would be shipping directly from Singapore to everyone.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 18 April 2015, 08:09:03
Pics as requested. I will not be entertaining anymore order edits/address edits.
Halfway through sorting, 200+ orders, should be able to ship by Tuesday latest, except for those who are pending shipping fees.
Thanks!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/c95Qljn.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YDJCiVI.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qcVXaMc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ghU2AMM.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KcJhdQr.jpg)
You will ship directly from Singapore to everyone or will hwood to the handling?
He said he would be shipping directly from Singapore to everyone.
Thanks!
Post by: Want on Sat, 18 April 2015, 08:15:27
Pics as requested. I will not be entertaining anymore order edits/address edits.
Halfway through sorting, 200+ orders, should be able to ship by Tuesday latest, except for those who are pending shipping fees.
Thanks!MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/c95Qljn.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YDJCiVI.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qcVXaMc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ghU2AMM.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KcJhdQr.jpg)
I want to bathe in them.
This doesn't make me weird right?
Me too. Separately from you of course. Bathing together in them would make us weird.
Yeah dude. Totally separately.
But, y'know, I mean, I'm okay if you wanna bathe together..
But only if you want to, cause it would be weird otherwise.
Post by: wlhlm on Sat, 18 April 2015, 09:25:40
Awesome, Gateron switches for dinner!Mhhmmmm, yummy! :p
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 18 April 2015, 10:35:41
Pics as requested. I will not be entertaining anymore order edits/address edits.
Halfway through sorting, 200+ orders, should be able to ship by Tuesday latest, except for those who are pending shipping fees.
Thanks!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/c95Qljn.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YDJCiVI.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qcVXaMc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ghU2AMM.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KcJhdQr.jpg)
Wow so many switches! Good luck sorting that out and thanks again for all the hard work Shadovved! :-*
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 18 April 2015, 12:35:07
Pics as requested. I will not be entertaining anymore order edits/address edits.
Halfway through sorting, 200+ orders, should be able to ship by Tuesday latest, except for those who are pending shipping fees.
Thanks!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/c95Qljn.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YDJCiVI.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qcVXaMc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ghU2AMM.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KcJhdQr.jpg)
damn sir good luck
Post by: ImBZppl on Sat, 18 April 2015, 13:43:27
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 18 April 2015, 16:54:45
Oh yay, is there still a need to fill in any of the misisng orders? I sent a message to hwood but I never got a response.Never got a message from you sir
YepI just changed the layout of the custom I want to build last night....and now I need 11 more clear switches...so if anyone ordered way over what they need (in the US) and ends up wanting to sell them or something, then please let me know!That's calculated very tightly. I would always order some overhead in case something goes wrong, especially when only $.16 per switch.
Or I guess I can just try and order some from Zeal? I don't know.
Didn't Shadovved say there weren't anymore switches left as he wanted to keep some stock in case a problem happens?
Post by: Vintage on Sat, 18 April 2015, 19:20:47
Thx Shadovved! :p
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 18 April 2015, 21:32:24
200 more orders to complete sorting.
Post by: TLExile on Sun, 19 April 2015, 01:31:33
Pics as requested. I will not be entertaining anymore order edits/address edits.
Halfway through sorting, 200+ orders, should be able to ship by Tuesday latest, except for those who are pending shipping fees.
Thanks!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/c95Qljn.jpg)
So when does the PBT GB start? :P
Post by: wlhlm on Sun, 19 April 2015, 02:22:33
Pics as requested. I will not be entertaining anymore order edits/address edits.
Halfway through sorting, 200+ orders, should be able to ship by Tuesday latest, except for those who are pending shipping fees.
Thanks!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/c95Qljn.jpg)
So when does the PBT GB start?
Those look very good. I must have missed that ICThose look very good. I must have missed that ICSame here
It was together with my switch top GB, but due to lacking interest the GB fell through.
I'm intending to run it again after I settle the Gateron, probably June?
Post by: joey on Sun, 19 April 2015, 03:16:33
Status update.Super impressed! Keep up the good work!
200 more orders to complete sorting.
Post by: sprit on Sun, 19 April 2015, 07:41:29
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Post by: leesofi on Sun, 19 April 2015, 08:01:03
with Gateron Switches, I can put LEDs inside, Yes?
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Oh, wonder how lights burn. ! I will try that to one of A.87 !
Post by: duckness on Sun, 19 April 2015, 08:02:25
with Gateron Switches, I can put LEDs inside, Yes?
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Based on his photos, I would think so.
(http://i.imgur.com/eUBuPzX.jpg)
Post by: tjweir on Sun, 19 April 2015, 08:38:26
with Gateron Switches, I can put LEDs inside, Yes?
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I'm going to try this on my next build, cool idea.
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 19 April 2015, 12:02:04
Status update.
200 more orders to complete sorting.
Good job! You're almost done!
Post by: ideus on Sun, 19 April 2015, 16:39:22
Status update.
200 more orders to complete sorting.
You are the man.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 19 April 2015, 17:32:16
(http://www.sweclockers.com/image/red/2014/01/09/Corsair-1.jpg?t=original&k=c25f1a91)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 April 2015, 18:01:03
Pics as requested. I will not be entertaining anymore order edits/address edits.
Halfway through sorting, 200+ orders, should be able to ship by Tuesday latest, except for those who are pending shipping fees.
Thanks!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/c95Qljn.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YDJCiVI.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qcVXaMc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ghU2AMM.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KcJhdQr.jpg)
I thought you were sorting them, not trying to eat them like cereal.
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 19 April 2015, 18:08:19
Dude, one serving of gateron switches provides 40% of your daily suggested amount of fiber. Don't hate.Pics as requested. I will not be entertaining anymore order edits/address edits.
Halfway through sorting, 200+ orders, should be able to ship by Tuesday latest, except for those who are pending shipping fees.
Thanks!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/c95Qljn.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YDJCiVI.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qcVXaMc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ghU2AMM.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KcJhdQr.jpg)
I thought you were sorting them, not trying to eat them like cereal.
Post by: dashing_girlboy on Mon, 20 April 2015, 06:58:52
with Gateron Switches, I can put LEDs inside, Yes?
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Do you have any example with the housing closed? :eek:
Post by: sprit on Mon, 20 April 2015, 07:04:41
with Gateron Switches, I can put LEDs inside, Yes?Do you have any example with the housing closed? :o
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Originally the chamber at the Electronic Switch bottoms are generally meant to be used for Diodes, LEDs, Resistors, etc
Alps switches have the same chamber too.
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Post by: dashing_girlboy on Mon, 20 April 2015, 07:11:18
Originally the chamber at the Electronic Switch bottoms are generally meant to be used for Diodes, LEDs, Resistors, etc
Alps switches have the same chamber too.
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:cool: Cool~ So it will probably look like that in the Cosair RGB, like the image IvanIvanovich attached?
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 20 April 2015, 07:23:33
Sure can put LED. It's one of the things I liked about it as I am guessing the translucent should help carry the light all around similar to Cherry MX RGBShow Image(http://www.sweclockers.com/image/red/2014/01/09/Corsair-1.jpg?t=original&k=c25f1a91)
Wow that's cool. Feels like the car tuning. haha
Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 20 April 2015, 07:39:17
The Cherry MX RGB switches have a lens in them. Not sure what difference it makes...Originally the chamber at the Electronic Switch bottoms are generally meant to be used for Diodes, LEDs, Resistors, etc
Alps switches have the same chamber too.
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:cool: Cool~ So it will probably look like that in the Cosair RGB, like the image IvanIvanovich attached?
Post by: Jason_IRL on Mon, 20 April 2015, 07:49:06
The Cherry MX RGB switches have a lens in them. Not sure what difference it makes...Originally the chamber at the Electronic Switch bottoms are generally meant to be used for Diodes, LEDs, Resistors, etc
Alps switches have the same chamber too.
(Attachment Link)
:cool: Cool~ So it will probably look like that in the Cosair RGB, like the image IvanIvanovich attached?
It was my impression that the Cherry RGB switches used SMD leds underneath the switch. that's kinda how its shown off in this video:
Regardless, I'm really excited to try these gaterons out!
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 20 April 2015, 08:36:22
The remainder will go out probably by next Monday, since I'll be super busy on weekdays.
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 20 April 2015, 08:45:58
The first 200 orders have been shipped out.
The remainder will go out probably by next Monday, since I'll be super busy on weekdays.
All shipped by Next Monday, what kind of magic are you using Shadovved ?!
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 20 April 2015, 08:48:45
The first 200 orders have been shipped out.
The remainder will go out probably by next Monday, since I'll be super busy on weekdays.
All shipped by Next Monday, what kind of magic are you using Shadovved ?!
Well. That's my efficiency. I dont like to wait and waste time, and they take up space as well.
I should probably start running GBs for people :D
Post by: awhitedev on Mon, 20 April 2015, 08:49:48
The first 200 orders have been shipped out.
The remainder will go out probably by next Monday, since I'll be super busy on weekdays.
All shipped by Next Monday, what kind of magic are you using Shadovved ?!
Well. That's my efficiency. I dont like to wait and waste time, and they take up space as well.
I should probably start running GBs for people :D
Wow that's quick!
How do we know if we are part of the first 200?
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 20 April 2015, 08:59:36
The first 200 orders have been shipped out.
The remainder will go out probably by next Monday, since I'll be super busy on weekdays.
All shipped by Next Monday, what kind of magic are you using Shadovved ?!
Well. That's my efficiency. I dont like to wait and waste time, and they take up space as well.
I should probably start running GBs for people :D
Wow that's quick!
How do we know if we are part of the first 200?
If you ordered less than 250 pcs total, you are probably in.
200 or less is definitely in.
Post by: duckness on Mon, 20 April 2015, 09:04:57
Wow that's quick!
How do we know if we are part of the first 200?
If you ordered less than 250 pcs total, you are probably in.
200 or less is definitely in.
Yay! Thanks Shadovved :D
Post by: retrochick on Mon, 20 April 2015, 10:25:51
Damn. That's super fast! This GB may be one of the fastest GBs to have ever taken place, ha. Thanks so much Shadovved!The first 200 orders have been shipped out.
The remainder will go out probably by next Monday, since I'll be super busy on weekdays.
All shipped by Next Monday, what kind of magic are you using Shadovved ?!
Well. That's my efficiency. I dont like to wait and waste time, and they take up space as well.
I should probably start running GBs for people :D
Wow that's quick!
How do we know if we are part of the first 200?
If you ordered less than 250 pcs total, you are probably in.
200 or less is definitely in.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 20 April 2015, 10:29:48
Yay! Ordered 200 in total.The first 200 orders have been shipped out.
The remainder will go out probably by next Monday, since I'll be super busy on weekdays.
All shipped by Next Monday, what kind of magic are you using Shadovved ?!
Well. That's my efficiency. I dont like to wait and waste time, and they take up space as well.
I should probably start running GBs for people :D
Wow that's quick!
How do we know if we are part of the first 200?
If you ordered less than 250 pcs total, you are probably in.
200 or less is definitely in.
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Mon, 20 April 2015, 11:31:43
I ordered almost 400, guess I'll have to wait a little longer.The first 200 orders have been shipped out.
The remainder will go out probably by next Monday, since I'll be super busy on weekdays.
All shipped by Next Monday, what kind of magic are you using Shadovved ?!
Well. That's my efficiency. I dont like to wait and waste time, and they take up space as well.
I should probably start running GBs for people :D
Wow that's quick!
How do we know if we are part of the first 200?
If you ordered less than 250 pcs total, you are probably in.
200 or less is definitely in.
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 20 April 2015, 11:36:15
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 20 April 2015, 11:47:31
Wow wp! So much efficiency indeed.The first 200 orders have been shipped out.
The remainder will go out probably by next Monday, since I'll be super busy on weekdays.
All shipped by Next Monday, what kind of magic are you using Shadovved ?!
Well. That's my efficiency. I dont like to wait and waste time, and they take up space as well.
I should probably start running GBs for people :D
Wow that's quick!
How do we know if we are part of the first 200?
If you ordered less than 250 pcs total, you are probably in.
200 or less is definitely in.
Post by: lolpes on Mon, 20 April 2015, 11:53:19
Post by: Mooksie on Mon, 20 April 2015, 12:00:45
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 20 April 2015, 12:14:30
Post by: impreziv on Mon, 20 April 2015, 14:19:45
The first 200 orders have been shipped out.
The remainder will go out probably by next Monday, since I'll be super busy on weekdays.
All shipped by Next Monday, what kind of magic are you using Shadovved ?!
Well. That's my efficiency. I dont like to wait and waste time, and they take up space as well.
I should probably start running GBs for people :D
Wow that's quick!
How do we know if we are part of the first 200?
If you ordered less than 250 pcs total, you are probably in.
200 or less is definitely in.
What about combined orders of switches and switch covers? I assume those ship together? Does 200 pcs refer to just the switches?
Post by: awhitedev on Mon, 20 April 2015, 17:05:19
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 20 April 2015, 18:24:44
Do we get any confimartion email? I ordered 70 so possibly I'm one of those that shipped
I am withholding that confirmation email till I have tracking numbers for everyone
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 20 April 2015, 18:24:58
Post by: Red_dino on Mon, 20 April 2015, 19:26:12
Came here to ask about that!Do we get any confimartion email? I ordered 70 so possibly I'm one of those that shipped
I am withholding that confirmation email till I have tracking numbers for everyone
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Post by: asdfjkl36 on Mon, 20 April 2015, 19:35:26
The efficiency!
It feels...
It feeeeels...
So good
Post by: ROFLmonstar on Tue, 21 April 2015, 00:53:04
Do we get any confimartion email? I ordered 70 so possibly I'm one of those that shipped
I am withholding that confirmation email till I have tracking numbers for everyone
You missed a question, what about the clear tops orders? Same deal? More then 200 total will be shipped next week?
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 21 April 2015, 01:28:52
Do we get any confimartion email? I ordered 70 so possibly I'm one of those that shipped
I am withholding that confirmation email till I have tracking numbers for everyone
You missed a question, what about the clear tops orders? Same deal? More then 200 total will be shipped next week?
200 pcs combined for tops & switches. I ship both together.
Post by: ROFLmonstar on Tue, 21 April 2015, 02:11:05
Do we get any confimartion email? I ordered 70 so possibly I'm one of those that shipped
I am withholding that confirmation email till I have tracking numbers for everyone
You missed a question, what about the clear tops orders? Same deal? More then 200 total will be shipped next week?
200 pcs combined for tops & switches. I ship both together.
Great, I have about 250 total so I guess I'll have to wait until next week.
Also thanks and great work with this GB!
Post by: phx on Tue, 21 April 2015, 13:41:44
someone hold me, I'm not used to this kind of neck breaking turnaround time. shouldnt this take like a year or something?
Post by: awhitedev on Tue, 21 April 2015, 15:14:02
wtf there are orders already shipped?
someone hold me, I'm not used to this kind of neck breaking turnaround time. shouldnt this take like a year or something?
Shhhh don't jinx it :))
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 21 April 2015, 17:44:42
wtf there are orders already shipped?
someone hold me, I'm not used to this kind of neck breaking turnaround time. shouldnt this take like a year or something?
I packed another 100 orders so far.
Probably can ship out by Friday!
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 21 April 2015, 17:47:36
wtf there are orders already shipped?
someone hold me, I'm not used to this kind of neck breaking turnaround time. shouldnt this take like a year or something?
I packed another 100 orders so far.
Probably can ship out by Friday!
(http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/101-are-you-a-wizard.jpg)
Post by: awhitedev on Tue, 21 April 2015, 17:57:23
wtf there are orders already shipped?
someone hold me, I'm not used to this kind of neck breaking turnaround time. shouldnt this take like a year or something?
I packed another 100 orders so far.
Probably can ship out by Friday!Show Image(http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/101-are-you-a-wizard.jpg)
Lmao! Yes... this...
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 21 April 2015, 18:40:43
wtf there are orders already shipped?
someone hold me, I'm not used to this kind of neck breaking turnaround time. shouldnt this take like a year or something?
I packed another 100 orders so far.
Probably can ship out by Friday!
Killing it.
Show pics of the counting scale loaded up with switches. Group buy p0rn shot. Go on, do it. ;D
Post by: IonutZ on Tue, 21 April 2015, 21:18:00
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 21 April 2015, 21:36:03
These switches are ****ing terrible though :< are people only using them for the transparent tops? The construction is much worse than a Cherry MX...
What makes you say that? Have you used them for a while? Most of the reviews I've read were pretty positive
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Tue, 21 April 2015, 21:42:12
These switches are ****ing terrible though :< are people only using them for the transparent tops? The construction is much worse than a Cherry MX...I'm not sure what you're basing this off of, but I've had the pleasure of using gateron blacks for about a month, and found them to be absolutely lovely.
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 21 April 2015, 21:42:50
These switches are ****ing terrible though :< are people only using them for the transparent tops? The construction is much worse than a Cherry MX...So what problems are you having exactly?
Post by: ideus on Tue, 21 April 2015, 23:19:50
Post by: Spopepro on Tue, 21 April 2015, 23:20:01
These switches are ****ing terrible though :< are people only using them for the transparent tops? The construction is much worse than a Cherry MX...So what problems are you having exactly?
Problems of not being able to sell Topre parts maybe?
Post by: dashing_girlboy on Wed, 22 April 2015, 01:07:44
These switches are ****ing terrible though :< are people only using them for the transparent tops? The construction is much worse than a Cherry MX...So what problems are you having exactly?
Problems of not being able to sell Topre parts maybe?
meh, like more Gaterons --> less people to be interested in his Topre because market forces? IDK how this guy thinks but unless he is giving some concrete proof on why Gaterons are terrible, im calling him out for bs.
Post by: toonoobtobereal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 02:55:29
Can't wait untill they arrive, all that clicky goodness :)
Post by: Ngt on Wed, 22 April 2015, 04:51:09
These switches are ****ing terrible though :< are people only using them for the transparent tops? The construction is much worse than a Cherry MX...I think I saw a troll ...
(http://cdn.meme.li/instances/300x300/61513162.jpg)
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 06:39:38
These switches are ****ing terrible though :< are people only using them for the transparent tops? The construction is much worse than a Cherry MX...I think I saw a troll ...Show Image(http://cdn.meme.li/instances/300x300/61513162.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ylz6aqb.gif)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 22 April 2015, 07:03:38
Do Gaterons take round leds, or only rectangular ones?
Anyone that can answer this; or, should I have to wait until my samples arrived?
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 22 April 2015, 07:06:34
Do Gaterons take round leds, or only rectangular ones?
Anyone that can answer this; or, should I have to wait until my samples arrived?
not sure if that's helping but I had not problem putting 1.8mm led on the gaterons:
(http://www.ledsales.com.au/shop/images/1.8mmleds.jpg)
Are you worried about the bottom not fitting or the top part getting in the way ?
Post by: ideus on Wed, 22 April 2015, 07:12:03
Do Gaterons take round leds, or only rectangular ones?
Anyone that can answer this; or, should I have to wait until my samples arrived?
not sure if that's helping but I had not problem putting 1.8mm led on the gaterons:Show Image(http://www.ledsales.com.au/shop/images/1.8mmleds.jpg)
Are you worried about the bottom not fitting or the top part getting in the way ?
Thank you very much for the answer. In particular, I would like to know if the bottom and wall of the LED holder notch in the switch housing has the cylindrical shape, as the Cherry switches do. If you check a Cherry switch they have a round cut in the main body of the switch, in the LED holder notch, that allow the installation of both squared or round shaped LEDs.
Post by: Thechemist on Wed, 22 April 2015, 07:13:11
Do Gaterons take round leds, or only rectangular ones?
Anyone that can answer this; or, should I have to wait until my samples arrived?
not sure if that's helping but I had not problem putting 1.8mm led on the gaterons:Show Image(http://www.ledsales.com.au/shop/images/1.8mmleds.jpg)
Are you worried about the bottom not fitting or the top part getting in the way ?
Thank you very much for the answer. In particular, I would like to know if the bottom and wall of the LED holder notch in the switch housing has the cylindrical shape, as the Cherry switches do. If you check a Cherry switch they have a round cut in the main body of the switch, in the LED holder notch, that allow the installation of both squared or round shaped LEDs.
Just like Cherry switch top.
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 22 April 2015, 07:18:13
(http://i.imgur.com/KGIMcRK.jpg)
This is today's progress.
(http://i.imgur.com/HBDrVpX.jpg)
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 22 April 2015, 07:22:14
I'm not home but I'll verify tonight.Do Gaterons take round leds, or only rectangular ones?
Anyone that can answer this; or, should I have to wait until my samples arrived?
not sure if that's helping but I had not problem putting 1.8mm led on the gaterons:Show Image(http://www.ledsales.com.au/shop/images/1.8mmleds.jpg)
Are you worried about the bottom not fitting or the top part getting in the way ?
Thank you very much for the answer. In particular, I would like to know if the bottom and wall of the LED holder notch in the switch housing has the cylindrical shape, as the Cherry switches do. If you check a Cherry switch they have a round cut in the main body of the switch, in the LED holder notch, that allow the installation of both squared or round shaped LEDs.
But I'm pretty sure that this particular part of the switch is designed the same way than the cherries.
This was the other day, the first batch sent out.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KGIMcRK.jpg)
This is today's progress.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HBDrVpX.jpg)
Get fit with gatorades :)
Post by: Thechemist on Wed, 22 April 2015, 07:25:59
(http://i.imgur.com/jvRU301.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mEopen5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7Qe16rQ.jpg)
Post by: tjweir on Wed, 22 April 2015, 07:49:00
This was the other day, the first batch sent out.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KGIMcRK.jpg)
This is today's progress.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HBDrVpX.jpg)
You're a beast!
Post by: strict on Wed, 22 April 2015, 07:55:57
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jvRU301.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mEopen5.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7Qe16rQ.jpg)
Damn that looks good! Makes me wish I had ordered some of those clear tops!
Post by: tanker666 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 08:05:45
This was the other day, the first batch sent out.Me reading the updatesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/KGIMcRK.jpg)
This is today's progress.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HBDrVpX.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cngSm1W.gif)
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 22 April 2015, 12:21:53
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bmPQHUf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jvRU301.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mEopen5.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7Qe16rQ.jpg)
This must be what heaven looks like :-*
Post by: Zeroo on Wed, 22 April 2015, 13:48:25
Same here actually..Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jvRU301.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mEopen5.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7Qe16rQ.jpg)
Damn that looks good! Makes me wish I had ordered some of those clear tops!
Post by: cmadrid on Wed, 22 April 2015, 14:34:22
These switches are ****ing terrible though :< are people only using them for the transparent tops? The construction is much worse than a Cherry MX...
I was all excited about getting my switches soon, but now that you've proven to me that they are terrible, I am instead sad :(
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 22 April 2015, 14:37:29
I'm down to about 20 Gateron black switches left, so I need my GB switches to come soon. :)
Post by: cmadrid on Wed, 22 April 2015, 14:40:37
FWIW, I currently use two 60% (a GH60revB and a FaceW) and a full size (Filco Majestouch-2) with stock Gateron blacks. No complaints from me.
I'm down to about 20 Gateron black switches left, so I need my GB switches to come soon. :)
Okay.. he may not actually have proven to me that they are terrible ;0 I did enjoy your small review of the Gateron blacks a while back tho.. I plan on using them whenever I attempt my first keyboard build.. Hoping one of the rare TKL projects comes in at an affordable price range that won't make my wife lose her **** ;)
Post by: rand77 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 14:50:05
http://imgur.com/a/AW8A7
At first I used stock 35 springs, but this resulted in too many accidental key presses.
Post by: Vintage on Wed, 22 April 2015, 15:10:55
Those clear tops look fantastic!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bmPQHUf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jvRU301.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mEopen5.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7Qe16rQ.jpg)
Happy I ordered some :D
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 16:22:49
oh damn, nice build! these are what switch stickers were always made for ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bmPQHUf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jvRU301.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mEopen5.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7Qe16rQ.jpg)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Wed, 22 April 2015, 18:31:12
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bmPQHUf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jvRU301.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mEopen5.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7Qe16rQ.jpg)
Awesome build and sweet shots man! :)
Is the last picture a lubing station?
Really love the last shot! It makes stock Gateron with stickers almost look better then clear tops to me! :thumb:
For the frosted case clear was probably the way to go, but snap would those look smexy on a dark plate... Ö_Ö
Post by: Thechemist on Wed, 22 April 2015, 18:40:46
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bmPQHUf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jvRU301.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mEopen5.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7Qe16rQ.jpg)
Awesome build and sweet shots man! :)
Is the last picture a lubing station?
Really love the last shot! It makes stock Gateron with stickers almost look better then clear tops to me! :thumb:
For the frosted case clear was probably the way to go, but snap would those look smexy on a dark plate... Ö_Ö
The last picture is of someone's keyboard that was being sold recently in the classifieds, it was the only picture I could find quickly with Gaterons that didn't have leds installed. The other pictures are mine.
Post by: VanGhost on Wed, 22 April 2015, 22:28:46
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 22 April 2015, 23:43:29
Will we receive confirmation once our orders have shipped?
I will send out the tracking numbers via email after all the orders are shipped.
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 23 April 2015, 06:57:42
Will we receive confirmation once our orders have shipped?
I will send out the tracking numbers via email after all the orders are shipped.
Great news, thanks!
Post by: VanGhost on Thu, 23 April 2015, 14:32:20
Awesome, thanks dude!Will we receive confirmation once our orders have shipped?
I will send out the tracking numbers via email after all the orders are shipped.
Post by: Want on Thu, 23 April 2015, 16:04:21
Post by: awhitedev on Thu, 23 April 2015, 17:37:36
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bmPQHUf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jvRU301.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mEopen5.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7Qe16rQ.jpg)
What keyboard is that?
Post by: sprit on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:15:29
Gateron Electronics www.gateron.com (http://www.gateron.com) company shop on Alibaba http://gateron.1688.com
- est. Dec. 2013 Location : Guandong, Huizhou city, China - next to Hongkong and Shenzhen
- Gateron MX Stabilizer clones https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71330.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71330.0) Plate mount Type Only, No Wires - 25 April
http://www.baidu.com (http://www.baidu.com/) > Gateron
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3118495285 (http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3118495285)
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3120448793 (http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3120448793)
http://weistang.com/thread-816-1-1.html (http://weistang.com/thread-816-1-1.html)
http://mouse.zol.com.cn/503/5037494.html (http://mouse.zol.com.cn/503/5037494.html)
http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-566627-1-1.html (http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-566627-1-1.html)
http://youtu.be/Nq03qDaX960 (http://youtu.be/Nq03qDaX960) - Typing Gateron switches, Aug 2014
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:17:48
Some pages on GateronsThanks for compiling these resources.
http://www.baidu.com (http://www.baidu.com) > Gateron
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3118495285 (http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3118495285)
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3120448793 (http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3120448793)
http://weistang.com/thread-816-1-1.html (http://weistang.com/thread-816-1-1.html)
http://mouse.zol.com.cn/503/5037494.html (http://mouse.zol.com.cn/503/5037494.html)
http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-566627-1-1.html (http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-566627-1-1.html)
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 23 April 2015, 20:05:52
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bmPQHUf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jvRU301.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mEopen5.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7Qe16rQ.jpg)
What keyboard is that?
Looks like a Crystal GON, maybe
Post by: JonasDK on Fri, 24 April 2015, 06:59:04
Post by: ideus on Fri, 24 April 2015, 07:08:06
My switches just arrived :thumb: ! Thumbs up, this GB was really fast and smooth!
Denmark? wow, that was fast. Post some pictures.
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 24 April 2015, 07:10:26
Impressive indeed, I guess he was part off the first batch of the 250- orders.My switches just arrived :thumb: ! Thumbs up, this GB was really fast and smooth!
Denmark? wow, that was fast. Post some pictures.
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 24 April 2015, 07:12:50
Post by: duckness on Fri, 24 April 2015, 07:30:23
My switches just arrived :thumb: ! Thumbs up, this GB was really fast and smooth!
wow that was fast!
Post by: CyriusG on Fri, 24 April 2015, 08:15:09
(http://i.imgur.com/ah0tBah.jpg)
Post by: patchythepirate2 on Fri, 24 April 2015, 08:22:01
Post by: Johan on Fri, 24 April 2015, 09:13:34
Post by: CyriusG on Fri, 24 April 2015, 09:20:32
Post by: r0mIe_Ng on Fri, 24 April 2015, 09:24:23
Just got my 100 black switches. :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ah0tBah.jpg)
Damn that's great! Gonna have to check mail box immediately!
Post by: FreeCopy on Fri, 24 April 2015, 09:34:19
Post by: ideus on Fri, 24 April 2015, 09:46:16
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 24 April 2015, 09:51:50
Another 127 will go out on Monday & Tuesday.
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Fri, 24 April 2015, 09:55:05
Just sent out email w/ tracking for everyone's stuff who has shipped.Just got my notice Shadovved! Thanks so much for the quick turnaround, I hope you give yourself a nice break when this GB is complete! :thumb:
Another 127 will go out on Monday & Tuesday.
Post by: inanis on Fri, 24 April 2015, 09:57:24
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 April 2015, 09:57:56
Post by: phx on Fri, 24 April 2015, 09:58:33
(http://i.imgur.com/qLzLK3Y.gif)
Post by: angerthosenear on Fri, 24 April 2015, 10:00:56
250 clears and the clear tops
Thanks for all your work! Looking forward to more Gaterons!
I have tried every Gateron but the heavy yellows and I quite like them.
Post by: awhitedev on Fri, 24 April 2015, 10:05:15
Post by: ideus on Fri, 24 April 2015, 10:21:57
I ordered 300 blacks and 70 clear tops. Haven't received a shipping notice but getting excited to get these! Hopefully I'm in the 127 going out on Monday or Tuesday :) is there any way to know which batch I'm in?
Why not just wait? These guys are very busy shipping many orders already; that, there is no reason to bother them more just to know an ETA.
Post by: awhitedev on Fri, 24 April 2015, 10:26:46
I ordered 300 blacks and 70 clear tops. Haven't received a shipping notice but getting excited to get these! Hopefully I'm in the 127 going out on Monday or Tuesday :) is there any way to know which batch I'm in?
Why not just wait? These guys are very busy shipping many orders already; that, there is no reason to bother them more just to know an ETA.
Oh yeah I get it.. My hat is off to them for taking on this effort... It is definitely appreciated. I wasn't going to PM him or anything. I was just wondering if there was an easy way to tell.
Post by: cwils0n on Fri, 24 April 2015, 10:30:00
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Fri, 24 April 2015, 10:50:27
I need the tracking code because otherwise Brazilian post will mess the delivery. :(I ordered 300 blacks and 70 clear tops. Haven't received a shipping notice but getting excited to get these! Hopefully I'm in the 127 going out on Monday or Tuesday :) is there any way to know which batch I'm in?
Why not just wait? These guys are very busy shipping many orders already; that, there is no reason to bother them more just to know an ETA.
Post by: Lpwl on Fri, 24 April 2015, 10:51:45
:cool:
Thank you.
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 24 April 2015, 10:54:13
Post by: ThatRusty on Fri, 24 April 2015, 10:56:14
Post by: Fire Brand on Fri, 24 April 2015, 11:01:24
Post by: lolpes on Fri, 24 April 2015, 11:03:56
Post by: awhitedev on Fri, 24 April 2015, 11:06:06
Shadovved, you the man ;D
I haven't received an email yet :(
You may still get yours. Mine was delayed a few hours.
Post by: Zeroo on Fri, 24 April 2015, 11:15:02
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 24 April 2015, 11:17:19
I need the tracking code because otherwise Brazilian post will mess the delivery. :(I ordered 300 blacks and 70 clear tops. Haven't received a shipping notice but getting excited to get these! Hopefully I'm in the 127 going out on Monday or Tuesday :) is there any way to know which batch I'm in?
Why not just wait? These guys are very busy shipping many orders already; that, there is no reason to bother them more just to know an ETA.
You'll get the email when the things are actually out.
I don't send the emails in advance. Email goes out when items are no longer at my place.
Post by: lolpes on Fri, 24 April 2015, 11:25:34
Post by: alex952 on Fri, 24 April 2015, 11:42:38
Post by: animated on Fri, 24 April 2015, 12:00:14
Post by: hj-s on Fri, 24 April 2015, 12:47:24
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 24 April 2015, 13:16:00
Post by: Johan on Fri, 24 April 2015, 13:32:11
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 24 April 2015, 13:39:55
Post by: Mooksie on Fri, 24 April 2015, 15:25:44
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 24 April 2015, 15:33:38
(https://thelibdotcom1.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/post-8744-wiping-tears-with-money-gif-hd-lkhv.gif)
Post by: Willyc277 on Fri, 24 April 2015, 15:46:31
Shadovved, you've outdone yourself!!!
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 24 April 2015, 16:54:56
Am I the only on who has ordered too much and has to wait a day longer for it to ship!?! :'(no I can't even remember my precise number 500+ iircShow Image(https://thelibdotcom1.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/post-8744-wiping-tears-with-money-gif-hd-lkhv.gif)
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 24 April 2015, 17:36:24
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 24 April 2015, 18:36:45
Post by: Asininity on Sat, 25 April 2015, 01:33:46
I hope there's some individuals who wind up with a few extra switches. I think I'm going to need a few more blues and browns.
Post by: Slaine777 on Sat, 25 April 2015, 04:00:58
Post by: SigLogical on Sat, 25 April 2015, 06:04:31
Now to figure out what to do with them all... :))
(http://i.imgur.com/KiIWY6C.jpg)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 25 April 2015, 08:08:52
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Good seeing you again Shadovved and Thanks for the switches!
Now to figure out what to do with them all... :))Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KiIWY6C.jpg)
How come? You have not prepared well in advance a nice PCB to get them? LOL
Post by: billnye on Sat, 25 April 2015, 08:19:10
Post by: SigLogical on Sat, 25 April 2015, 08:41:54
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Good seeing you again Shadovved and Thanks for the switches!
Now to figure out what to do with them all... :))Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KiIWY6C.jpg)
How come? You have not prepared well in advance a nice PCB to get them? LOL
Ordered a PCB 1 year in advance... yeah... it'll ship soon :-\
Post by: lolpes on Sat, 25 April 2015, 08:43:22
Post by: Zeroo on Sat, 25 April 2015, 09:09:58
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Good seeing you again Shadovved and Thanks for the switches!
Now to figure out what to do with them all... :))Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KiIWY6C.jpg)
How come? You have not prepared well in advance a nice PCB to get them? LOL
I didn't, probably don't get another chance to get them this cheap anytime soon, so I just bought a load ^^
Post by: ideus on Sat, 25 April 2015, 11:10:16
Post by: cmadrid on Sat, 25 April 2015, 13:49:26
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 25 April 2015, 13:59:40
Post by: Hzza on Sat, 25 April 2015, 14:07:15
Agreed cmadrid. If anyone could spare me a handful of brown Gaterons I'd be very interested and gratefulI've got browns on the way, if you can't find any closer to you I'm happy to send a few over.
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 25 April 2015, 14:07:19
I may join the MD buy for more, though, and then I'll have a bunch extra, because they only come in packs of 120
Post by: cmadrid on Sat, 25 April 2015, 14:43:04
Post by: awhitedev on Sat, 25 April 2015, 15:38:07
Post by: Mooksie on Sat, 25 April 2015, 17:09:59
Post by: mecano on Sat, 25 April 2015, 18:01:58
Post by: mecano on Sat, 25 April 2015, 18:17:34
Am I the only on who has ordered too much and has to wait a day longer for it to ship!?! :'(no I can't even remember my precise number 500+ iircShow Image(https://thelibdotcom1.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/post-8744-wiping-tears-with-money-gif-hd-lkhv.gif)
Ahaha you guys are lucky, only 105 here and no news yet < trying to not join the whining gang but given up as always ;D
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 25 April 2015, 18:19:30
520 ;)Am I the only on who has ordered too much and has to wait a day longer for it to ship!?! :'(no I can't even remember my precise number 500+ iircShow Image(https://thelibdotcom1.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/post-8744-wiping-tears-with-money-gif-hd-lkhv.gif)
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 25 April 2015, 21:41:20
Am I the only on who has ordered too much and has to wait a day longer for it to ship!?! :'(no I can't even remember my precise number 500+ iircShow Image(https://thelibdotcom1.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/post-8744-wiping-tears-with-money-gif-hd-lkhv.gif)
Ahaha you guys are lucky, only 105 here and no news yet < trying to not join the whining gang but given up as always ;D
Impossible. If you ordered 105 it should be posted already.
PM me your PayPal email
Post by: metafour on Sat, 25 April 2015, 22:41:28
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 25 April 2015, 22:46:54
(http://replygif.net/i/774.gif)
But really, I'm fine, I'll be okay.
Post by: Mooksie on Sat, 25 April 2015, 23:33:45
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 26 April 2015, 06:43:01
How long should it be for my package to get to east coast?The award for most impatient comment goes to....
Seriously though, there is no way of knowing when customs is involved. Wait it out and use your tracking number
Post by: sprit on Sun, 26 April 2015, 06:54:45
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68943.msg1726319#msg1726319 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68943.msg1726319#msg1726319)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71330.msg1727541#msg1727541 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71330.msg1727541#msg1727541)
: Plate mount type Only, No Metal Wires! - 25 April.
不能拿来做透明的pc/abs
收缩率不同，模具尺寸不一样，做出来的产品尺寸不一样的
黑色的，可以报给你
但是，我们没有卫星轴的钢丝
Unable to use Transparent PC/ABS material (into the current ABS dedicated mould)
Due to the plastic shrink ratios differ, the dimensions of the moulds differ in details
Current Black ABS plastic parts are available
But, we don't have metal wires for stabilizers
[attach=1]
Post by: mecano on Sun, 26 April 2015, 08:43:11
Am I the only on who has ordered too much and has to wait a day longer for it to ship!?! :'(no I can't even remember my precise number 500+ iircShow Image(https://thelibdotcom1.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/post-8744-wiping-tears-with-money-gif-hd-lkhv.gif)
Ahaha you guys are lucky, only 105 here and no news yet < trying to not join the whining gang but given up as always ;D
Impossible. If you ordered 105 it should be posted already.
PM me your PayPal email
Indeed it is (impossible), I was pming you and received the tracking while at it (sent it anyway for the records).
Looks like the shipment has landed yesterday, only a matter of days for it to reach my place now. :thumb:
You just can't be that fast I was only starting to feel the chills of the anguish!
Post by: Shadovved on Sun, 26 April 2015, 08:56:48
I've been receiving PMs regarding shipping status of your orders.
Just to repeat, if you have gotten an email regarding your tracking number then your item has shipped.
Please do check your junk/spam folder for the email as well.
Post by: tjweir on Sun, 26 April 2015, 09:01:43
Hello.
I've been receiving PMs regarding shipping status of your orders.
Just to repeat, if you have gotten an email regarding your tracking number then your item has shipped.
Please do check your junk/spam folder for the email as well.
Thanks again shadovved and hwood, this is a big group buy and was executed basically perfectly.
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 27 April 2015, 03:57:57
Post by: Cottonsox on Mon, 27 April 2015, 03:59:31
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 27 April 2015, 05:14:58
Is Shadovved human? He has some insane turn around with the qty of pieces going out!
With practice comes perfection :p
I should volunteer to run more GBs HAHAHA
Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 27 April 2015, 05:18:16
Wouldn't have a problem with that. :))Is Shadovved human? He has some insane turn around with the qty of pieces going out!
With practice comes perfection :p
I should volunteer to run more GBs HAHAHA
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 27 April 2015, 05:25:14
Wouldn't have a problem with that. :))Is Shadovved human? He has some insane turn around with the qty of pieces going out!
With practice comes perfection :p
I should volunteer to run more GBs HAHAHA
People should approach me........
Anyway. Status update. 70+ went out today. Left another 50 or so.
Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 27 April 2015, 05:54:49
Post by: edkolev on Mon, 27 April 2015, 06:11:47
Post by: XzisT on Mon, 27 April 2015, 06:41:37
I got mine as well in UK. Just soldered them in and testing them right now. :thumb:
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 27 April 2015, 07:36:00
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 27 April 2015, 08:05:00
Looks like they played baseball with my package in their lunchtime
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/27/5bd809d40362ad6a820c1fb64595825b.jpg)
Blues, clears and blacks
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/27/4e05011be2d5fbb51a50b802d359d8ae.jpg)
Smooth as F
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/27/dcaf7f8d1f22d136c2b42685aa67f89f.jpg)
Post by: Dee1 on Mon, 27 April 2015, 08:40:06
Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 27 April 2015, 09:32:36
Post by: ideus on Mon, 27 April 2015, 09:42:13
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 27 April 2015, 09:54:18
No shipping notice yet. :-\
Me neither, but it will come.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 27 April 2015, 10:00:00
No shipping notice yet. :-\
Me neither, but it will come.
I am sure. It is just that seeing all those nice packages makes the waiting a little bit harder, :thumb:
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 27 April 2015, 10:33:03
No shipping notice yet. :-\
Me neither, but it will come.
I am sure. It is just that seeing all those nice packages makes the waiting a little bit harder, :thumb:
Tomorrow. All will be delivered except 10 packages, which will go out on Thursday because of a lack of suitable sized boxes. :thumb:
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 27 April 2015, 10:35:30
Too big order? Would be curious to know what was the biggest order made? 2000+ switches?No shipping notice yet. :-\
Me neither, but it will come.
I am sure. It is just that seeing all those nice packages makes the waiting a little bit harder, :thumb:
Tomorrow. All will be delivered except 10 packages, which will go out on Thursday because of a lack of suitable sized boxes. :thumb:
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 27 April 2015, 10:37:36
No shipping notice yet. :-\
Me neither, but it will come.
I am sure. It is just that seeing all those nice packages makes the waiting a little bit harder, :thumb:
Tomorrow. All will be delivered except 10 packages, which will go out on Thursday because of a lack of suitable sized boxes. :thumb:
Yay! I hope mine comes with a drawing, a cookie, or a love letter.
Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 27 April 2015, 10:49:26
Bunny made a big order:Too big order? Would be curious to know what was the biggest order made? 2000+ switches?No shipping notice yet. :-\
Me neither, but it will come.
I am sure. It is just that seeing all those nice packages makes the waiting a little bit harder, :thumb:
Tomorrow. All will be delivered except 10 packages, which will go out on Thursday because of a lack of suitable sized boxes. :thumb:
ordered about 1300 to get you started
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 27 April 2015, 11:16:13
Bunny made a big order:Too big order? Would be curious to know what was the biggest order made? 2000+ switches?No shipping notice yet. :-\
Me neither, but it will come.
I am sure. It is just that seeing all those nice packages makes the waiting a little bit harder, :thumb:
Tomorrow. All will be delivered except 10 packages, which will go out on Thursday because of a lack of suitable sized boxes. :thumb:ordered about 1300 to get you started
Hint: it's not bunny.
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 27 April 2015, 11:29:04
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 27 April 2015, 11:45:27
Bunny made a big order:Too big order? Would be curious to know what was the biggest order made? 2000+ switches?No shipping notice yet. :-\
Me neither, but it will come.
I am sure. It is just that seeing all those nice packages makes the waiting a little bit harder, :thumb:
Tomorrow. All will be delivered except 10 packages, which will go out on Thursday because of a lack of suitable sized boxes. :thumb:ordered about 1300 to get you started
Hint: it's not bunny.
Swill. He wants to bathe in switches.
Post by: mecano on Mon, 27 April 2015, 12:30:29
With practice comes perfection :p
Cough cough
Why not practicing on azhdar? Why me? I mean he is typing on azerty, the layout of the beyond and me not!
Post by: Slaine777 on Mon, 27 April 2015, 14:21:18
Tomorrow. All will be delivered except 10 packages, which will go out on Thursday because of a lack of suitable sized boxes. :thumb:Is that one order split into 10 packages? If they are different orders then how many switch orders does this involve (I.e. orders with X to Y switches will go out Thursday).
Post by: ccc24 on Mon, 27 April 2015, 14:27:57
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 27 April 2015, 14:29:31
ordered 100 blacks. Got dispatched oversees on 4-21 and is out for delivery today. Took about a week to reach me here on the west coast U.S.
Wait, they allow that on the West Coast? I thought that was just a Southern thing a hundred plus years ago.
Post by: Want on Mon, 27 April 2015, 14:37:00
Post by: ccc24 on Mon, 27 April 2015, 14:40:49
ordered 100 blacks. Got dispatched oversees on 4-21 and is out for delivery today. Took about a week to reach me here on the west coast U.S.
Wait, they allow that on the West Coast? I thought that was just a Southern thing a hundred plus years ago.
HA :)) I see what you did there. Edited to sound less racist.
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 27 April 2015, 17:23:53
Post by: awhitedev on Mon, 27 April 2015, 17:25:35
I've noticed it a hundred times on the forum. We're always describing the switches as "blacks", "browns", "reds", "whites'", etc. It looks even worse when people declare how much they hate on or the other. I actually correct my language as much as I can. Thankfully there don't seem to be any SJWs here to blow it out of proportion.
Once you go black you don't go back :cool:
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 27 April 2015, 17:26:23
I've noticed it a hundred times on the forum. We're always describing the switches as "blacks", "browns", "reds", "whites'", etc. It looks even worse when people declare how much they hate on or the other. I actually correct my language as much as I can. Thankfully there don't seem to be any SJWs here to blow it out of proportion.
Once you go black you don't go back :cool:
They're so smooth.
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 27 April 2015, 17:27:14
Smooth, but heavy. I need to swap springs with mine because I am so used to lighter switchesI've noticed it a hundred times on the forum. We're always describing the switches as "blacks", "browns", "reds", "whites'", etc. It looks even worse when people declare how much they hate on or the other. I actually correct my language as much as I can. Thankfully there don't seem to be any SJWs here to blow it out of proportion.
Once you go black you don't go back 8)
They're so smooth.
Post by: retrochick on Mon, 27 April 2015, 19:14:14
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 27 April 2015, 19:43:29
Post by: billnye on Mon, 27 April 2015, 19:45:15
Anyone else had theirs stuck at "Origin Post is Preparing Shipment"?From my experience, that just means it's processing in the country it was shipped from.
Sometimes it says that all the way up until it's delivered at my house. USPS seems to be pretty lackadaisical about scanning international packages sometimes.
Post by: thelectronicnub on Mon, 27 April 2015, 21:49:18
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 28 April 2015, 01:48:21
Got mine today, and Clears are too light for me. Anyone want to trade some Browns or Blacks for my Clears? PM me if you're interested!
Just order some separate springs ;)
Post by: mecano on Tue, 28 April 2015, 02:11:23
I can see in the tracking that it is at the wrong city dispatch centre.
[edit] followed the french postal offices procedure in such case, they will re route it if possible. Will keep you tuned if I have any news.
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 28 April 2015, 03:42:52
Sent to a wrong city :-\ you got the street name right though.
I can see in the tracking that it is at the wrong city dispatch centre.
[edit] followed the french postal offices procedure in such case, they will re route it if possible. Will keep you tuned if I have any news.
Alright, I'll keep you posted if it gets returned.
Post by: Zeroo on Tue, 28 April 2015, 07:03:39
(http://imgur.com/UhqUiYg.jpg)
Post by: DuckMyDucky on Tue, 28 April 2015, 07:04:16
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 28 April 2015, 07:25:13
Got mine yesterday, black ones! Very fast shipping indeed! Haven't installed them yet, but they appear to be super smooth, much more so than my cherry mx reds. They're also a tad heavier than cherry mx red, but not by much. Has anyone tried lubing black gaterons? Thinking about trying it before installing these, even though they seem very smooth already, so not sure if it will really make much of a difference.https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70676.0
Post by: rpeterclark on Tue, 28 April 2015, 07:27:03
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Tue, 28 April 2015, 07:39:37
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 28 April 2015, 07:40:49
Tracking code received, now it's time for the waiting game. If I'm lucky it'll be delivered in June.
In May probably.
Post by: Cottonsox on Tue, 28 April 2015, 07:40:55
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Tue, 28 April 2015, 07:49:44
Do not underestimate the incompetence of the Brazilian post. :( At least with a tracking code I can complain if it takes too long.Tracking code received, now it's time for the waiting game. If I'm lucky it'll be delivered in June.
In May probably.
Post by: omen7288 on Tue, 28 April 2015, 08:28:38
Post by: StarWarsAs on Tue, 28 April 2015, 09:32:56
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 28 April 2015, 09:35:08
Can anyone help me out? On the singapost website it says that my package got dispached to overseas but the tracking is not registered with the italian post service. Where is my package?It got the same thing, I think it means it's on his way to your country but hasn't arrived or been scanned yet in Italy.
Post by: Willyc277 on Tue, 28 April 2015, 11:49:00
Can anyone help me out? On the singapost website it says that my package got dispached to overseas but the tracking is not registered with the italian post service. Where is my package?
It means that it's been dispatched overseas.
WiFi on the boat must be down.
Post by: rand77 on Tue, 28 April 2015, 12:30:34
Post by: Lpwl on Tue, 28 April 2015, 12:31:37
That little box containing all these little preciiiiiious things only took 4 days to find my home...
... and I live in the middle of nowhere !
Too fast, too furious.
Thanks again.
Post by: swill on Tue, 28 April 2015, 12:36:43
Post by: ROFLmonstar on Tue, 28 April 2015, 12:48:21
Switches, check.
Stabilizers, check.
LEDs, check.
Keycaps, thinking about ordering a colored transparent from PMK.
Now waiting for the Atomic PCB...
Post by: joey on Tue, 28 April 2015, 13:38:30
got my shipping notification today. thats exciting... :)
How many switches are you ending up with?
Post by: vindaon on Tue, 28 April 2015, 13:46:46
Post by: swill on Tue, 28 April 2015, 13:47:32
Got my shipment e-mail today!Only about 1000, so totally within reason. :)got my shipping notification today. thats exciting... :)
How many switches are you ending up with?
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 28 April 2015, 13:50:16
Wasn't it more like 4000 at some point to get the Browns over the 20k mark?Got my shipment e-mail today!Only about 1000, so totally within reason. :)got my shipping notification today. thats exciting... :)
How many switches are you ending up with?
Post by: swill on Tue, 28 April 2015, 13:53:27
Yes. I initially ordered over 4500 to make sure the browns hit moq for the price break. Luckily that act encouraged others to buy some browns and it hit moq without my order. I still purchased 500 browns, but not because I had to. :)Wasn't it more like 4000 at some point to get the Browns over the 20k mark?Got my shipment e-mail today!Only about 1000, so totally within reason. :)got my shipping notification today. thats exciting... :)
How many switches are you ending up with?
Big shout out to everyone for helping me stay out of the doghouse with my wife. ;)
Post by: evera on Tue, 28 April 2015, 15:21:38
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 28 April 2015, 15:32:45
Post by: jonlorusso on Tue, 28 April 2015, 16:18:55
Post by: ideus on Tue, 28 April 2015, 16:45:54
Post by: daviswalkers on Tue, 28 April 2015, 17:04:29
I got my shipping notice today, finally.Finally!? This has to be the fastest gb in GH history!
Mine's sadly stuck in:
"Origin Post is Preparing Shipment"
for the past 5 days or so :(
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 28 April 2015, 17:44:20
I got my shipping notice today,finallydamn that was fast.
Post by: FreeCopy on Tue, 28 April 2015, 18:09:47
Post by: ideus on Tue, 28 April 2015, 18:33:41
I got my shipping notice today,finallydamn that was fast.
Hehe, that is right, it was fast.
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 28 April 2015, 19:25:14
I got my shipping notice today,finallydamn that was fast.
Hehe, that is right, it was fast.
Probably the fastest of this size I have ever seen.
Post by: rsac on Tue, 28 April 2015, 20:35:07
Post by: FoC_Tow on Tue, 28 April 2015, 22:53:08
Much Thankies Shadovved! :-* <33
Now just to wait for my GON to finally arrive... ;)
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 28 April 2015, 22:58:03
Post by: patchythepirate2 on Tue, 28 April 2015, 23:00:37
Looks like mine just emerged from customs in NYC.
Mine too! Can't wait to get my hands on these beauties.
Post by: daviswalkers on Wed, 29 April 2015, 00:36:50
Same here, got everything for my keyboard minus the switches I'm so anxious to start my first custom build!Looks like mine just emerged from customs in NYC.
Mine too! Can't wait to get my hands on these beauties.
Post by: Ngt on Wed, 29 April 2015, 01:16:11
Good luck on your project! Have fun.Same here, got everything for my keyboard minus the switches I'm so anxious to start my first custom build!Looks like mine just emerged from customs in NYC.
Mine too! Can't wait to get my hands on these beauties.
Post by: Ngt on Wed, 29 April 2015, 02:59:16
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 29 April 2015, 03:00:42
Shaddovved, did some not go out today? I ask only since you said they'd all be out today and I didn't get a tracking number yet.I got my shipping notice today,finallydamn that was fast.
Hehe, that is right, it was fast.
Probably the fastest of this size I have ever seen.
Check your junk/spam folder.
It's to the contrastprint email.
Post by: awhitedev on Wed, 29 April 2015, 05:42:43
Post by: Mooksie on Wed, 29 April 2015, 06:52:46
Post by: jonlorusso on Wed, 29 April 2015, 08:58:05
Quote
Check your junk/spam folder.
It's to the contrastprint email.
Thanks! Got it!
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 29 April 2015, 12:28:21
(http://i.imgur.com/bhWWB3gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/bhWWB3g)
(http://i.imgur.com/YSHXuSJl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/YSHXuSJ)
Threw in some MX Clear switches to make Ghost Gateron Blacks ® :P
(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)
And a quick comparison between 2nd round AboStudio (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46446.0) clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
Post by: geo462rge on Wed, 29 April 2015, 12:57:34
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 29 April 2015, 13:44:27
Show Image
Show Image
Got mine today!
(http://i.imgur.com/bhWWB3gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/bhWWB3g)
(http://i.imgur.com/YSHXuSJl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/YSHXuSJ)
Threw in some MX Clear switches to make Ghost Gateron Blacks ® :P
(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)
And a quick comparison between 2nd round Arbostudio clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
Good photos, thanks!
Post by: toonoobtobereal on Wed, 29 April 2015, 13:56:46
Shadovved 2016! cuz you'd sure as hell get my vote ;)
Post by: Dee1 on Wed, 29 April 2015, 14:03:28
(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)
And a quick comparison between 2nd round Arbostudio clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
Thanks for the comparison pic! This has convinced me to get some switch stickers. :)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 29 April 2015, 14:46:51
Check your junk/spam folder.
It's to the contrastprint email.
If it came in there, it's gone. I deleted a fair bit due to too much aliexpress spam.
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 29 April 2015, 14:56:30
Do it! :P It looks great though it is a pain to open these switches without the proper tools.(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)Thanks for the comparison pic! This has convinced me to get some switch stickers. :)
And a quick comparison between 2nd round Arbostudio clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
I'll try comparing led lightspread later this week.
Post by: Ngt on Wed, 29 April 2015, 15:05:58
I'll be definitely interested to see this led comparison as I wonder whether to buy some or not for my gaterons.Do it!(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)Thanks for the comparison pic! This has convinced me to get some switch stickers. :)
And a quick comparison between 2nd round Arbostudio clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
I'll try comparing led lightspread later this week.
Post by: JonasDK on Wed, 29 April 2015, 15:49:07
(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)
And a quick comparison between 2nd round Arbostudio clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
Interesting, is it just me, or is the Arbostudio completely clear while the Gateron clear is a bit greyish?
Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 29 April 2015, 15:58:41
(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)
And a quick comparison between 2nd round Arbostudio clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
Interesting, is it just me, or is the Arbostudio completely clear while the Gateron clear is a bit greyish?
the surroundings of the Gateron clear one has a little bit of a matte finish when you zoom in a bit. I think that's why it might look a bit greyish to you. ^-^
Post by: Gloomy Moonie on Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:01:53
(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)
And a quick comparison between 2nd round Arbostudio clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
Thanks for the comparison pic! This has convinced me to get some switch stickers. :)
How would one go about getting stickers?
@Jaccow looks awesome, btw. Hoping to get something similar with the tops and clears/blacks that are currently en route to my address :)
What would have been perfect though is if the ErgoDox had an option for backlighting, giving me a good reason to SIP socket each switch, while applying stickers, lube and the clear tops. Pure OCD bliss.
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:03:13
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71380.0(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)
And a quick comparison between 2nd round Arbostudio clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
Thanks for the comparison pic! This has convinced me to get some switch stickers. :)
How would one go about getting stickers?
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:03:31
Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:03:32
(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)
And a quick comparison between 2nd round Arbostudio clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
Thanks for the comparison pic! This has convinced me to get some switch stickers. :)
How would one go about getting stickers?
@Jaccow looks awesome, btw. Hoping to get something similar with the tops and clears/blacks that are currently en route to my address :)
What would have been perfect though is if the ErgoDox had an option for backlighting, giving me a good reason to SIP socket each switch, while applying stickers, lube and the clear tops. Pure OCD bliss.
There's a current GB atm that you can join.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71380.0
:)
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:04:06
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:06:08
beat ya by 1 second, though I didn't come up with the link lolWat up bruh? :p
Post by: Gloomy Moonie on Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:09:26
Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:10:41
beat ya by 1 second, though I didn't come up with the link lolWat up bruh? :p
topkek-ed. nvm, it's the thought that counts hehehee :)
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:19:40
Mostly this. It's the finish but even without that the plastic of the Gaterons is slightly "greyer".the surroundings of the Gateron clear one has a little bit of a matte finish when you zoom in a bit. I think that's why it might look a bit greyish to you. ^-^(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)Interesting, is it just me, or is the Arbostudio completely clear while the Gateron clear is a bit greyish?
And a quick comparison between 2nd round Arbostudio clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
Thanks everyone. I enjoy making these pictures and it's good to hear people find them useful. :)
EDIT: And damn you wlhlm, metalliqaz and pichu23 for making me spend more money. :))
Post by: Red_dino on Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:47:45
Post by: daftendire on Wed, 29 April 2015, 17:19:01
Mfw I have goodies waiting for me when I get home.
Post by: Vintage on Wed, 29 April 2015, 18:34:14
Post by: koalapear on Wed, 29 April 2015, 19:34:01
Hey, Shadovved, is everything shipped? I don't think I got an email. Checked the junk folder.I'm in the same boat. I ordered 80 switch tops and haven't gotten an email.
Post by: exoizzy on Wed, 29 April 2015, 23:48:41
Post by: phx on Thu, 30 April 2015, 00:55:07
first impressions:
Gateron blue: did a blind test and picked these every time, I feel like they are more solid than MX.
Gateron brown: not much of a difference.
Gateron black: holy crap this is heavy
Gateron clear: holy crap this is light
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 30 April 2015, 06:24:17
Hey, Shadovved, is everything shipped? I don't think I got an email. Checked the junk folder.
I missed you out. I'll send it out ASAP.
Sorry man :(
Post by: Vintage on Thu, 30 April 2015, 06:46:10
Post by: mecano on Thu, 30 April 2015, 09:01:13
Sent to a wrong city :-\ you got the street name right though.
I can see in the tracking that it is at the wrong city dispatch centre.
[edit] followed the french postal offices procedure in such case, they will re route it if possible. Will keep you tuned if I have any news.
Alright, I'll keep you posted if it gets returned.
Tracking shows it's on it way to you : Back to sender.
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 30 April 2015, 09:56:17
Sent to a wrong city :-\ you got the street name right though.
I can see in the tracking that it is at the wrong city dispatch centre.
[edit] followed the french postal offices procedure in such case, they will re route it if possible. Will keep you tuned if I have any news.
Alright, I'll keep you posted if it gets returned.
Tracking shows it's on it way to you : Back to sender.
I'll get your address from you again when I receive the package.
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 30 April 2015, 11:06:12
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 30 April 2015, 11:14:10
Findecanor just created a DT wiki entry (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Gateron_KS-3_series#cite_note-massdrop-2) for Gaterons if anyone is curious
Quote from: DT wiki
"GATERON black shaft" "GATERON white shaft"
is that the official gateron names?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 30 April 2015, 12:39:22
The blacks are really good. The blues have a much more satisfying click than Cherry and a better tone. I think the clears are going to be a bit too light for practical use.
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 30 April 2015, 12:42:21
got my switches!Can anyone chime on how much a difference in weight there is between stock gateron blacks, and cherry mx black? I thought the gateron variant was quite a bit lighter, but I've seen some people also describing them as heavy. Thanks! :)
first impressions:
Gateron blue: did a blind test and picked these every time, I feel like they are more solid than MX.
Gateron brown: not much of a difference.
Gateron black: holy crap this is heavy
Gateron clear: holy crap this is light
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 30 April 2015, 12:49:04
got my switches!Can anyone chime on how much a difference in weight there is between stock gateron blacks, and cherry mx black? I thought the gateron variant was quite a bit lighter, but I've seen some people also describing them as heavy. Thanks! :)
first impressions:
Gateron blue: did a blind test and picked these every time, I feel like they are more solid than MX.
Gateron brown: not much of a difference.
Gateron black: holy crap this is heavy
Gateron clear: holy crap this is light
Rip-O-Meter science (https://imgur.com/a/VUqVE) by wscarlton:
Cherry:
(http://i.imgur.com/7omWa5I.jpg)
Gateron:
(http://i.imgur.com/TDEL4XM.jpg)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 30 April 2015, 12:50:31
Got mine today too. I didn't order much as I wasn't sure I would like them. I will need more... but I want to try red and yellow too.
The blacks are really good. The blues have a much more satisfying click than Cherry and a better tone. I think the clears are going to be a bit too light for practical use.
This is very good to know, it confirms blue and blacks are the best for practical use.
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 30 April 2015, 13:07:11
Thanks wlhlm! :thumb:got my switches!Can anyone chime on how much a difference in weight there is between stock gateron blacks, and cherry mx black? I thought the gateron variant was quite a bit lighter, but I've seen some people also describing them as heavy. Thanks! :)
first impressions:
Gateron blue: did a blind test and picked these every time, I feel like they are more solid than MX.
Gateron brown: not much of a difference.
Gateron black: holy crap this is heavy
Gateron clear: holy crap this is light
Rip-O-Meter science (https://imgur.com/a/VUqVE) by wscarlton:
Cherry:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7omWa5I.jpg)
Gateron:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TDEL4XM.jpg)
Post by: domoe on Thu, 30 April 2015, 14:30:22
Post by: mecano on Thu, 30 April 2015, 15:50:12
Sent to a wrong city :-\ you got the street name right though.
I can see in the tracking that it is at the wrong city dispatch centre.
[edit] followed the french postal offices procedure in such case, they will re route it if possible. Will keep you tuned if I have any news.
Alright, I'll keep you posted if it gets returned.
Tracking shows it's on it way to you : Back to sender.
I'll get your address from you again when I receive the package.
k, waiting for your message.
Post by: EppyKay on Thu, 30 April 2015, 16:40:02
Post by: BlindLemonLipschitz on Thu, 30 April 2015, 16:59:13
By the time I ordered, only clears were left. Much better than I expected. 62g springs, clear tops, threw some lube on them jauns... Very nice! thank you Shadovved
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 30 April 2015, 17:14:43
Now I just need my 62g's, lube, and stickers to arrive :D
Post by: Tranquilite on Thu, 30 April 2015, 18:16:22
I'm impressed by the turnaround time of this group buy.
Post by: Bigpock on Thu, 30 April 2015, 18:23:16
Now let me ask a question.. Would it be a good idea to remove the kalih switches off a Noppoo Lolita Spyder 87?
Im looking for a TKL layout, and i feel like buying a pcb + plates + case ect ect ect would cost more than just buying the Noppoo and re soldering the switches.
Post by: joey on Fri, 01 May 2015, 05:21:36
The parcel looks too small to have so many switches..
Post by: ideus on Fri, 01 May 2015, 06:20:08
Got my 100 black switches today! Thank you!!!!!
Now let me ask a question.. Would it be a good idea to remove the kalih switches off a Noppoo Lolita Spyder 87?
Im looking for a TKL layout, and i feel like buying a pcb + plates + case ect ect ect would cost more than just buying the Noppoo and re soldering the switches.
The Lolita would be cheaper; but, an actual custom keyboard is programmable, but of course, it comes with a premium cost with it. Personally I would not invest my time in a stock keyboard, just to customize the switches, unless it is programmable, or if it has my preferred layout. Otherwise, I would go for something like a Gon keyboard in my preferred size. Happy hacking.
Post by: Red_dino on Fri, 01 May 2015, 14:53:22
Post by: Natemiester on Fri, 01 May 2015, 14:56:44
Anyone know if I'm good to cut the PCB pins off these?
Post by: Olson.dev on Fri, 01 May 2015, 15:16:40
Ordered 100 Brown - check! :thumb:
Ordered 90 Clear - got 89. :-\
Ordered 90 Black - got 88. :(
I appreciate the fast turnaround time but I would have gladly waited longer for accuracy. Thanks though.
Post by: Olson.dev on Fri, 01 May 2015, 15:22:08
Anyone know if I'm good to cut the PCB pins off these?
This was talked about much earlier in the thread. Yes, you can plate mount them if you do that.
See https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68943.msg1646588#msg1646588 and the few messages immediately after.
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Fri, 01 May 2015, 15:35:12
Got my package today.Shadovved have said long ago that he would be using an electronic scale to sort the switches by weight. This method can be very inaccurate sometimes. That's why I bought more switches than I need, exactly to avoid this.
Ordered 100 Brown - check! :thumb:
Ordered 90 Clear - got 89. :-\
Ordered 90 Black - got 88. :(
I appreciate the fast turnaround time but I would have gladly waited longer for accuracy. Thanks though.
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:00:54
Clears: do these even have a spring in them? A little gritty feeling.
Blacks: heavy spring, heavier than Cherry Blacks and, from memory, Clears. Not as smooth as I was expecting. They felt a little gritty to me too. They're more stable, but not buttery smooth. Still nice.
I'll probably do more detailed impressions once I get the ones from the giveaway (were those supposed to be in the box?).
They seem pretty nice though.
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:01:46
Got my package today.Shadovved have said long ago that he would be using an electronic scale to sort the switches by weight. This method can be very inaccurate sometimes. That's why I bought more switches than I need, exactly to avoid this.
Ordered 100 Brown - check! :thumb:
Ordered 90 Clear - got 89. :-\
Ordered 90 Black - got 88. :(
I appreciate the fast turnaround time but I would have gladly waited longer for accuracy. Thanks though.
Glad I ordered 90 for my 87-key!
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:02:19
Got my switches! Everything was as ordered, many thanks to hwood and especially Shadovvod ;D
Anyone know if I'm good to cut the PCB pins off these?
They're your switches, you can do what you want with them.
Post by: mycroft on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:03:45
Switches arrived.
Post by: Natemiester on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:08:10
Got my switches! Everything was as ordered, many thanks to hwood and especially Shadovvod ;D
Anyone know if I'm good to cut the PCB pins off these?
They're your switches, you can do what you want with them.
What I meant was, will it mess up the switches to do so?
Post by: Olson.dev on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:16:01
Got my package today.Shadovved have said long ago that he would be using an electronic scale to sort the switches by weight. This method can be very inaccurate sometimes. That's why I bought more switches than I need, exactly to avoid this.
Ordered 100 Brown - check! :thumb:
Ordered 90 Clear - got 89. :-\
Ordered 90 Black - got 88. :(
I appreciate the fast turnaround time but I would have gladly waited longer for accuracy. Thanks though.
That's fair, I understand; I have more than I need, just bummed a little is all.
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:17:46
If you mount them in a plate, the two pcb pins are not needed and can be cut without any ill effect.Got my switches! Everything was as ordered, many thanks to hwood and especially Shadovvod ;D
Anyone know if I'm good to cut the PCB pins off these?
They're your switches, you can do what you want with them.
What I meant was, will it mess up the switches to do so?
I have a plate mount board but a pcb that has holes for the extra supports, so I keep them on.
Post by: Natemiester on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:45:40
sweet! thanksIf you mount them in a plate, the two pcb pins are not needed and can be cut without any ill effect.Got my switches! Everything was as ordered, many thanks to hwood and especially Shadovvod ;D
Anyone know if I'm good to cut the PCB pins off these?
They're your switches, you can do what you want with them.
What I meant was, will it mess up the switches to do so?
I have a plate mount board but a pcb that has holes for the extra supports, so I keep them on.
Post by: greath on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:50:00
Post by: awhitedev on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:57:52
I ordered 300 blacks... received 297... within expected variance...
I ordered 70 clear tops... received 63... kinda annoyed, that's 10%!
Post by: greath on Fri, 01 May 2015, 17:29:33
Decisions decisions.
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 01 May 2015, 17:56:22
Blacks: heavy spring, heavier than Cherry Blacks and, from memory, Clears. Not as smooth as I was expecting. They felt a little gritty to me too. They're more stable, but not buttery smooth. Still nice.Are you comparing against vintage or worn-in Cherry MX? When I tested, I found them to be more smooth than brand new switches but less smooth than my vintage switches.
When I placed a new Cherry MX Black switch against a Gateron Black and pressed together, the Gateron started moving first indicating that it has a lighter starting resistance.
Post by: domoe on Fri, 01 May 2015, 18:02:10
Anyone else's switches go through/get stuck in Opa Locka, FL? It is, quite possibly, the worst USPS distribution center in the entire US (http://www.yellowpages.com/opa-locka-fl/mip/us-post-office-472309766), so naturally it's the one my package got sent to.
Mine didn't go through Opa Locka, but I've had a package get stuck there in the past. They really suck. Hope your switches come soon!
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 01 May 2015, 18:02:42
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/Screen%20Shots/USPS-Gaterons-GB-Tracking.jpg)
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 01 May 2015, 18:06:16
Blacks: heavy spring, heavier than Cherry Blacks and, from memory, Clears.Is this consistent throughout multiple switches? Rip-O-Meter says same as MX Black.
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 01 May 2015, 18:10:37
Blacks: heavy spring, heavier than Cherry Blacks and, from memory, Clears. Not as smooth as I was expecting. They felt a little gritty to me too. They're more stable, but not buttery smooth. Still nice.Are you comparing against vintage or worn-in Cherry MX? When I tested, I found them to be more smooth than brand new switches but less smooth than my vintage switches.
When I placed a new Cherry MX Black switch against a Gateron Black and pressed together, the Gateron started moving first indicating that it has a lighter starting resistance.
I just did this with browns and the gaterons seem to have a slightly stiffer spring, but much more friction on the bump than vintage browns
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 01 May 2015, 18:11:38
Blacks: heavy spring, heavier than Cherry Blacks and, from memory, Clears. Not as smooth as I was expecting. They felt a little gritty to me too. They're more stable, but not buttery smooth. Still nice.Are you comparing against vintage or worn-in Cherry MX? When I tested, I found them to be more smooth than brand new switches but less smooth than my vintage switches.
When I placed a new Cherry MX Black switch against a Gateron Black and pressed together, the Gateron started moving first indicating that it has a lighter starting resistance.
I usually use used Black switches, whether you want to call them vintage or broken in. They don't seem much better than the ones in my QFR, but they are a little better. When I press them slowly, it does feel almost like there's a thin layer of dust or plastic powder or something in them, making them gritty. It's not bad (more noticeable on the Clears), but they were hyped so much that I expected them to feel like Krytox lubed Blacks. Fake Edit: I just played with them and if you hit the Gaterons head on, perfectly straight up and down, they're very smooth. If you hit them off center, they get that gritty feel.
I was going from memory in at lunch time with the Black springs, so I could be off, but they did feel heavy to me. Not in a bad way though. Fake edit: I just tried the unscientific test you tried. Maybe it's because the Blacks are used or on a plate, but the Cherry Blacks moved a little first, then the Gateron Blacks moved, then it was the Cherry Black again.
I'm interested to see how the Blues are when I get the ones from the giveaway.
Fake edits because I typed the comment, went away, came back and added impressions before posting.
Blacks: heavy spring, heavier than Cherry Blacks and, from memory, Clears.Is this consistent throughout multiple switches? Rip-O-Meter says same as MX Black.
In my unscientific testing (then again, the Rip-O-Meter is scientific), yes. That could be the result of used vs new though.
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 01 May 2015, 18:19:51
Anyone else's switches go through/get stuck in Opa Locka, FL? It is, quite possibly, the worst USPS distribution center in the entire US (http://www.yellowpages.com/opa-locka-fl/mip/us-post-office-472309766), so naturally it's the one my package got sent to.
Mine didn't go through Opa Locka, but I've had a package get stuck there in the past. They really suck. Hope your switches come soon!
Yes they are the worst. I dread any time one of my package is processed through there.
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 01 May 2015, 18:27:48
(http://i.imgur.com/Y8dIcpc.png)
If you look closely at the switch, you'll see three parts not unlike the little nibs on the wheels that turned cassette tapes (if you remember those). All you need to make them fit is take out your Xacto knife, press the blade against the nib, and scrape up once or twice. That action shaves enough off the nib to make it fit without issue. It's also much, much faster than disassembling and sanding.
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 01 May 2015, 18:35:20
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 01 May 2015, 18:38:09
I don't know what y'all talking about. Mine fit into the PCB just fine without modification.
They wouldn't fit without forcing into my unused Butterfly PCB. Can't help it if your holes are a little worn out and/or loose.
Post by: awhitedev on Fri, 01 May 2015, 18:46:41
I don't know what y'all talking about. Mine fit into the PCB just fine without modification.
They wouldn't fit without forcing into my unused Butterfly PCB. Can't help it if your holes are a little worn out and/or loose.
(http://i.imgur.com/njP8QxN.gif)
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 01 May 2015, 18:57:43
I don't know what y'all talking about. Mine fit into the PCB just fine without modification.Yep, fit well into my GH60 clone as well.
Post by: ebacho on Fri, 01 May 2015, 19:08:28
Post by: Eszett on Fri, 01 May 2015, 19:12:11
Post by: potatowire on Fri, 01 May 2015, 19:32:27
For the sake of the weight/count question, I ordered 300 blacks, and they came in two bags of 150. One bag was perfect, and the other was three short. No complaints...
As for the feel, they are suuuuuuuper smooth. I will know better tomorrow after I handwire a keyboard to properly test them.
Post by: Slaine777 on Fri, 01 May 2015, 19:39:59
Anyone else's switches go through/get stuck in Opa Locka, FL? It is, quite possibly, the worst USPS distribution center in the entire US (http://www.yellowpages.com/opa-locka-fl/mip/us-post-office-472309766), so naturally it's the one my package got sent to.I feel your pain. I'm having a problem with the post office at the moment.
(http://i.imgur.com/NF0OCE8.png) (http://imgur.com/NF0OCE8)
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 01 May 2015, 20:12:59
People, please tell me why do you buy those switches? What are the features? The named features I've read so far are: "magical". ;-)I bought them because Cherry is out of stock everywhere
Post by: awhitedev on Fri, 01 May 2015, 20:23:59
People, please tell me the reason why you want those switches? What are the features? The named features I've read so far are: "magical". ;-)
I like Gateron Blacks more than Cherry Blacks for two reasons:
1) Gateron Blacks are noticeably smoother than Cherry Blacks. There is no scratchy or rubbing feeling like there is with Cherry.
2) Gateron Blacks have consistently quiet and smooth springs whereas maybe 1 out of every 10 Cherry Blacks have a springy sound / feeling. (something I've noticed anyways)
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:14:52
I'd rather they be stuck in customs or a sorting facility, at least I would know they are on land lol.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:20:11
People, please tell me the reason why you want those switches? What are the features? The named features I've read so far are: "magical". ;-)
I like Gateron Blacks more than Cherry Blacks for two reasons:
1) Gateron Blacks are noticeably smoother than Cherry Blacks. There is no scratchy or rubbing feeling like there is with Cherry.
2) Gateron Blacks have consistently quiet and smooth springs whereas maybe 1 out of every 10 Cherry Blacks have a springy sound / feeling. (something I've noticed anyways)
Glad I got blacks and blues.
Post by: evera on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:22:28
Mine apparently has departed since 21st and is still somewhere out there. =P
I'd rather they be stuck in customs or a sorting facility, at least I would know they are on land lol.
My USPS page has looked like this all week... haha.
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:29:36
People, please tell me the reason why you want those switches? What are the features? The named features I've read so far are: "magical". ;-)The housings are white and I am building a custom keyboard that is white...
Other than that, I am interested in trying them out.
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:42:05
Mine apparently has departed since 21st and is still somewhere out there. =P
I'd rather they be stuck in customs or a sorting facility, at least I would know they are on land lol.
My USPS page has looked like this all week... haha.
that means it's still in customs. I hate when it gets stuck in customs. They sometimes inexplicably sit on it for weeks.
Post by: Willyc277 on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:47:21
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 02 May 2015, 00:47:45
Got my switches today, thanks Shadovved!
For the sake of the weight/count question, I ordered 300 blacks, and they came in two bags of 150. One bag was perfect, and the other was three short. No complaints...
As for the feel, they are suuuuuuuper smooth. I will know better tomorrow after I handwire a keyboard to properly test them.
I use an electronic balance to weigh the switches, uncertainty is around +-2. Sorry about that :(
Post by: Sirakain on Sat, 02 May 2015, 04:09:49
Thanks again Shadovved and hwood34 for the GB!
Post by: panrc on Sat, 02 May 2015, 05:24:09
Thanks for running this guys.
Post by: Olson.dev on Sat, 02 May 2015, 07:56:41
Aparantly the USPS guy didn't knock today. I know this because my 3 dogs go NUTS when someone knocks. Going to have to wait till monday. Gettin' the Gat sweats over here! It's fine though, as I still don't know which switches are going where!
My elderly mailwoman rang the doorbell once; I was in my downstairs office. By the time I made it to the front door, she was in her vehicle stuffing things into my mailbox and driving away. One of those things was a fully filled out "Sorry we just missed you!" card. By the amount of text she wrote on that card, I know damn well she filled it out before even approaching my house. I work from home so I'm used to these ****heads (USPS, UPS, FedEx; they're all the same) assuming no one's home in the middle of the day... still annoying everytime though. Packages that require signatures are usually the best packages. :)
Post by: awhitedev on Sat, 02 May 2015, 08:25:12
Aparantly the USPS guy didn't knock today. I know this because my 3 dogs go NUTS when someone knocks. Going to have to wait till monday. Gettin' the Gat sweats over here! It's fine though, as I still don't know which switches are going where!
My elderly mailwoman rang the doorbell once; I was in my downstairs office. By the time I made it to the front door, she was in her vehicle stuffing things into my mailbox and driving away. One of those things was a fully filled out "Sorry we just missed you!" card. By the amount of text she wrote on that card, I know damn well she filled it out before even approaching my house. I work from home so I'm used to these ****heads (USPS, UPS, FedEx; they're all the same) assuming no one's home in the middle of the day... still annoying everytime though. Packages that require signatures are usually the best packages. :)
My mail man did the same thing... The only shipping company I've been impressed with lately is DHL... but not many things come from them.
Post by: Willyc277 on Sat, 02 May 2015, 10:22:35
Aparantly the USPS guy didn't knock today. I know this because my 3 dogs go NUTS when someone knocks. Going to have to wait till monday. Gettin' the Gat sweats over here! It's fine though, as I still don't know which switches are going where!
My elderly mailwoman rang the doorbell once; I was in my downstairs office. By the time I made it to the front door, she was in her vehicle stuffing things into my mailbox and driving away. One of those things was a fully filled out "Sorry we just missed you!" card. By the amount of text she wrote on that card, I know damn well she filled it out before even approaching my house. I work from home so I'm used to these ****heads (USPS, UPS, FedEx; they're all the same) assuming no one's home in the middle of the day... still annoying everytime though. Packages that require signatures are usually the best packages. :)
Aw geeze, that's lame! Had to run a couple blocks in a button down and slacks to flag down my guy when the last HKP caps arrived!
Post by: Permeability on Sat, 02 May 2015, 10:50:33
Post by: samsonite727 on Sat, 02 May 2015, 11:14:33
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Sat, 02 May 2015, 11:41:29
Quick delivery :)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 02 May 2015, 12:45:54
Post by: lalien on Sat, 02 May 2015, 13:56:02
Post by: TLExile on Sat, 02 May 2015, 15:42:46
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Sat, 02 May 2015, 17:54:57
She is lazy and never want to get out of her car so packages that don't fit in the mailbox are marked as "Notice Left" but she doesn't even leave a notice!!! EVER!!!!
Now I have to wait till Monday to pick it up and I ain't got time for that -__-
Post by: Mooksie on Sat, 02 May 2015, 18:42:35
(http://i.imgur.com/ebb8tpQ.jpg)
REVIEW - These gateron linear clears are the smoothest I think cherry MX can possibly be. They are literally FRICTIONLESS. If reds feel like pencil on paper, these feel like rubbing a warm stick of butter in a hot frypan. If you press a switch down slowly, you feel no little bumps or scratches or anything. I think this is as good as cherry mx can get for me, next is to add topre and buckling springs to my collection. (X-post from reddit)
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 02 May 2015, 18:56:48
Got my clears yesterday, modded them late into the night(lube and 62g springs), and soldered them into my KUL today. Shadovved, you're the man. This is the best and fastest groupbuy I've ever been apart of. Thank you <3lookin good :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ebb8tpQ.jpg)
REVIEW - These gateron linear clears are the smoothest I think cherry MX can possibly be. They are literally FRICTIONLESS. If reds feel like pencil on paper, these feel like rubbing a warm stick of butter in a hot frypan. If you press a switch down slowly, you feel no little bumps or scratches or anything. I think this is as good as cherry mx can get for me, next is to add topre and buckling springs to my collection. (X-post from reddit)
Post by: Magna224 on Sat, 02 May 2015, 20:37:33
Post by: feizor on Sat, 02 May 2015, 20:40:09
REVIEW - These gateron linear clears are the smoothest I think cherry MX can possibly be. They are literally FRICTIONLESS. If reds feel like pencil on paper, these feel like rubbing a warm stick of butter in a hot frypan. If you press a switch down slowly, you feel no little bumps or scratches or anything. I think this is as good as cherry mx can get for me, next is to add topre and buckling springs to my collection. (X-post from reddit)
Technically these are not 'cherry MX' :p :p
Post by: shrapneL on Sun, 03 May 2015, 06:44:48
Post by: awhitedev on Sun, 03 May 2015, 08:46:26
If you have a board where your switch tops show and you don't like the translucent or clear tops provided by this group buy... a black switch top from a Cherry MX switch actually works just as well. The Cherry tops fit just as snugly as the Gateron ones do and do not cause the switch to wiggle as Cherry switches do. The "optimal girth" Gateron speaks of appears to be with the bottom portion of the housing and not the top.
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Edit: 200th post! :eek:
Post by: Mooksie on Sun, 03 May 2015, 08:50:50
Post by: awhitedev on Sun, 03 May 2015, 08:55:48
I don't know if it's just me, but I actually found the gaterons to be much more wobbly than stock cherries. Side to side and front to back.
Oh really? Hmm... What's your setup like? Are you plate or PCB mounting them?
Post by: ideus on Sun, 03 May 2015, 09:01:52
A quick observation I made...
If you have a board where your switch tops show and you don't like the translucent or clear tops provided by this group buy... a black switch top from a Cherry MX switch actually works just as well. The Cherry tops fit just as snugly as the Gateron ones do and do not cause the switch to wiggle as Cherry switches do. The "optimal girth" Gateron speaks of appears to be with the bottom portion of the housing and not the top.
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Edit: 200th post! :o
One of the reasons I got them was the translucent material, I am a little tired of the black cherry housings.
Post by: Hoaryhag on Sun, 03 May 2015, 13:44:53
Damn you post lady!
She is lazy and never want to get out of her car so packages that don't fit in the mailbox are marked as "Notice Left" but she doesn't even leave a notice!!! EVER!!!!
Now I have to wait till Monday to pick it up and I ain't got time for that -__-
I'd call the post office and let them know what she is up to. Postage paid, service nill. My post lady brought something to the door twice last week, thx Shadovved.
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 03 May 2015, 14:11:33
Post by: BlindLemonLipschitz on Sun, 03 May 2015, 14:20:39
Damn you post lady!
She is lazy and never want to get out of her car so packages that don't fit in the mailbox are marked as "Notice Left" but she doesn't even leave a notice!!! EVER!!!!
Now I have to wait till Monday to pick it up and I ain't got time for that -__-
I'd call the post office and let them know what she is up to. Postage paid, service nill. My post lady brought something to the door twice last week, thx Shadovved.
my post lady used to do that too. I asked her about it, and she said her manager said it was up to her discretion if she wanted to bring packages to my door. I filled out a complaint online( I couldn't find a link, here is a # though 1-800-ASK-USPS ). Her boss called me and apologized. He gave me a number to call if she did it again. I haven't had any problems since.
Post by: phx on Sun, 03 May 2015, 14:24:48
thanks!
Post by: potatowire on Sun, 03 May 2015, 21:07:22
Shadovved,For the sake of the weight/count question, I ordered 300 blacks, and they came in two bags of 150. One bag was perfect, and the other was three short. No complaints...
I use an electronic balance to weigh the switches, uncertainty is around +-2. Sorry about that :(
You definitely don't owe me an apology! I ordered 10% more than I thought I would need anyway, and by using a scale instead of counting, you were able to get these out to us impossibly fast. I would take that trade-off any day. Thank you for your hard work!
-potatowire
Post by: E3E on Sun, 03 May 2015, 22:17:55
Post by: VanGhost on Sun, 03 May 2015, 22:18:36
I don't know if I described what's happening very well, and if anyone has any tips or suggestions I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
Post by: Asininity on Sun, 03 May 2015, 22:34:44
Post by: Moderate on Mon, 04 May 2015, 00:34:05
Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 04 May 2015, 01:51:05
I must be getting wrecked by Aussie customs. The switches were sent last Monday, but there still hasn't been an update beyond that - not even an indication of arrival. The wait is painful :(German customs is killing me as well! :(
Post by: leesofi on Mon, 04 May 2015, 03:02:55
Post by: Shadovved on Mon, 04 May 2015, 05:20:56
I got, but omitted 300blacks and 5 clears from my order. The box was too small to filled my total order.
I probably missed out your 300 blacks
5 clears was my margin of error. I'll send it to you then.
Post by: leesofi on Mon, 04 May 2015, 05:30:02
I got, but omitted 300blacks and 5 clears from my order. The box was too small to filled my total order.
I probably missed out your 300 blacks
5 clears was my margin of error. I'll send it to you then.
Thanks.
Post by: alex952 on Mon, 04 May 2015, 05:50:18
Post by: ideus on Mon, 04 May 2015, 07:07:43
I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but I've run into some problems with my Gaterons. I haven't installed them yet, but after swapping out the springs and testing the weight I noticed that my caps (GMK) catch on the switch housing. I believe it is the bottom of the stem hitting against the lip of the rectangle that the slide descends into. This only happens on the side opposite the Gateron logo. When I push the cap even slightly in that direction (towards myself if they were installed) the cap "sticks" and won't go down without a lot of force. Other than that the switches are super smooth. This the first time I've dealt with switches of any kind outside of a keyboard, so I don't know if this is normal or if it wouldn't happen once they're installed. This isn't a problem with all of the switches, but it does effect most of them (only 4 of the 20 that I tested worked without catching).
I don't know if I described what's happening very well, and if anyone has any tips or suggestions I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
It should not happen; question, does it happen with all the row profiles - of the key caps - ?
Post by: rpeterclark on Mon, 04 May 2015, 07:14:32
I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but I've run into some problems with my Gaterons. I haven't installed them yet, but after swapping out the springs and testing the weight I noticed that my caps (GMK) catch on the switch housing. I believe it is the bottom of the stem hitting against the lip of the rectangle that the slide descends into. This only happens on the side opposite the Gateron logo. When I push the cap even slightly in that direction (towards myself if they were installed) the cap "sticks" and won't go down without a lot of force. Other than that the switches are super smooth. This the first time I've dealt with switches of any kind outside of a keyboard, so I don't know if this is normal or if it wouldn't happen once they're installed. This isn't a problem with all of the switches, but it does effect most of them (only 4 of the 20 that I tested worked without catching).
I don't know if I described what's happening very well, and if anyone has any tips or suggestions I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
It should not happen; question, does it happen with all the row profiles - of the key caps - ?
This has been reported before: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.0
The reported solution was to flatten a bit of plastic on the housing.
Post by: VanGhost on Mon, 04 May 2015, 09:14:59
I don't get it, what separates a HHKB from any other 60% keyboard?
Buy one and never look back. Ordered a second the other day and getting rid of all my other boards.
Wow, thank you man. That post is describing the same exact problem as me. My switch housings look a little different and there is no lip like the one shown on that thread, but I filed down the side that the cap was catching on and that fixed my problem. I guess this is another tedious step before spring swapping and lubing. :(I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but I've run into some problems with my Gaterons. I haven't installed them yet, but after swapping out the springs and testing the weight I noticed that my caps (GMK) catch on the switch housing. I believe it is the bottom of the stem hitting against the lip of the rectangle that the slide descends into. This only happens on the side opposite the Gateron logo. When I push the cap even slightly in that direction (towards myself if they were installed) the cap "sticks" and won't go down without a lot of force. Other than that the switches are super smooth. This the first time I've dealt with switches of any kind outside of a keyboard, so I don't know if this is normal or if it wouldn't happen once they're installed. This isn't a problem with all of the switches, but it does effect most of them (only 4 of the 20 that I tested worked without catching).
I don't know if I described what's happening very well, and if anyone has any tips or suggestions I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
It should not happen; question, does it happen with all the row profiles - of the key caps - ?
This has been reported before: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.0
The reported solution was to flatten a bit of plastic on the housing.
Post by: rpeterclark on Mon, 04 May 2015, 10:30:03
I don't get it, what separates a HHKB from any other 60% keyboard?
Buy one and never look back. Ordered a second the other day and getting rid of all my other boards.Wow, thank you man. That post is describing the same exact problem as me. My switch housings look a little different and there is no lip like the one shown on that thread, but I filed down the side that the cap was catching on and that fixed my problem. I guess this is another tedious step before spring swapping and lubing. :(I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but I've run into some problems with my Gaterons. I haven't installed them yet, but after swapping out the springs and testing the weight I noticed that my caps (GMK) catch on the switch housing. I believe it is the bottom of the stem hitting against the lip of the rectangle that the slide descends into. This only happens on the side opposite the Gateron logo. When I push the cap even slightly in that direction (towards myself if they were installed) the cap "sticks" and won't go down without a lot of force. Other than that the switches are super smooth. This the first time I've dealt with switches of any kind outside of a keyboard, so I don't know if this is normal or if it wouldn't happen once they're installed. This isn't a problem with all of the switches, but it does effect most of them (only 4 of the 20 that I tested worked without catching).
I don't know if I described what's happening very well, and if anyone has any tips or suggestions I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
It should not happen; question, does it happen with all the row profiles - of the key caps - ?
This has been reported before: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.0
The reported solution was to flatten a bit of plastic on the housing.
Yeah I find it a little worrying that there are already a number of reports of problematic housings and corroded leaves in the Gaterons, with so few people having received them yet. They seem to have tolerance and quality control issues that Cheery doesn't have. I have a batch on the way still from this GB and am looking forward to seeing how they are.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 04 May 2015, 10:40:07
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 04 May 2015, 11:24:51
Post by: VanGhost on Mon, 04 May 2015, 11:39:50
After going through and doing this to a few switches, they no longer catch, but there is a little bump that I don't think I can get rid of without filing down the entire side of the housing that the cap stem rubs against. It sort of ruins the insane smoothness of these switches.I don't get it, what separates a HHKB from any other 60% keyboard?
Buy one and never look back. Ordered a second the other day and getting rid of all my other boards.Wow, thank you man. That post is describing the same exact problem as me. My switch housings look a little different and there is no lip like the one shown on that thread, but I filed down the side that the cap was catching on and that fixed my problem. I guess this is another tedious step before spring swapping and lubing. :(I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but I've run into some problems with my Gaterons. I haven't installed them yet, but after swapping out the springs and testing the weight I noticed that my caps (GMK) catch on the switch housing. I believe it is the bottom of the stem hitting against the lip of the rectangle that the slide descends into. This only happens on the side opposite the Gateron logo. When I push the cap even slightly in that direction (towards myself if they were installed) the cap "sticks" and won't go down without a lot of force. Other than that the switches are super smooth. This the first time I've dealt with switches of any kind outside of a keyboard, so I don't know if this is normal or if it wouldn't happen once they're installed. This isn't a problem with all of the switches, but it does effect most of them (only 4 of the 20 that I tested worked without catching).
I don't know if I described what's happening very well, and if anyone has any tips or suggestions I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
It should not happen; question, does it happen with all the row profiles - of the key caps - ?
This has been reported before: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.0
The reported solution was to flatten a bit of plastic on the housing.
Yeah I find it a little worrying that there are already a number of reports of problematic housings and corroded leaves in the Gaterons, with so few people having received them yet. They seem to have tolerance and quality control issues that Cheery doesn't have. I have a batch on the way still from this GB and am looking forward to seeing how they are.
The QC is definitely an issue, they were so cheap that I'm not too upset though.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 04 May 2015, 12:02:16
Im not really as concerned about corrosion, because cherry switch leafs are mostly bare copper as well (with only the contact points being plated) and you still don't see coroded cherry seitches that often.
Going by other peoples reviews it also sounded like mainly switch top and slider are responsible for the increased smoothness over genuine mx, so if corrosion really becomes an issue there is still the option to change the bottoms for cherry ones. =)
Post by: rpeterclark on Mon, 04 May 2015, 12:10:30
My Gaterons are still on the fly, but I ordered quite a few and plan on doing some more investigating and testing once they get here.
Im not really as concerned about corrosion, because cherry switch leafs are mostly bare copper as well (with only the contact points being plated) and you still don't see coroded cherry seitches that often.
Going by other peoples reviews it also sounded like mainly switch top and slider are responsible for the increased smoothness over genuine mx, so if corrosion really becomes an issue there is still the option to change the bottoms for cherry ones. =)
I only mentioned corrosion because a couple users reported finding a number of them in new batches. Odd, but there it is.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71364.msg1728547#msg1728547 (10% of new batch was corroded)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71288.10
Post by: Asininity on Mon, 04 May 2015, 12:21:45
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 04 May 2015, 13:43:03
My Gaterons are still on the fly, but I ordered quite a few and plan on doing some more investigating and testing once they get here.
Im not really as concerned about corrosion, because cherry switch leafs are mostly bare copper as well (with only the contact points being plated) and you still don't see coroded cherry seitches that often.
Going by other peoples reviews it also sounded like mainly switch top and slider are responsible for the increased smoothness over genuine mx, so if corrosion really becomes an issue there is still the option to change the bottoms for cherry ones. =)
I only mentioned corrosion because a couple users reported finding a number of them in new batches. Odd, but there it is.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71364.msg1728547#msg1728547 (10% of new batch was corroded)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71288.10
I've seen the pictures as well rpeter and got slightly worried at first tbh.
On the other hand the same thread also shows pictures of corroded cherry switches tho and comparing them the differences seem not to be as big.
From what I understand, both Cherry and Gateron seem to have plated cross points only, so the majority of the copper leaf is actually non plated for both and could potentially have corrosion issues.
I guess there could also be a difference in the copper or gold plating used, but from what I understand Gaterons might still be just as durable as Cherry switches. And the fact there is a small amount of corroded switches might just be related to storing/shipping conditions or quality control rather then the actual durability of the switches.
So Im not as concerned for now, as none of those Gaterons has corroded in a regular use case environment inside a board. (especially if frequently used so the cross points get some friction/wear to keep them polished and stop patina from building up as much)
Post by: awhitedev on Mon, 04 May 2015, 14:13:15
My Gaterons are still on the fly, but I ordered quite a few and plan on doing some more investigating and testing once they get here.
Im not really as concerned about corrosion, because cherry switch leafs are mostly bare copper as well (with only the contact points being plated) and you still don't see coroded cherry seitches that often.
Going by other peoples reviews it also sounded like mainly switch top and slider are responsible for the increased smoothness over genuine mx, so if corrosion really becomes an issue there is still the option to change the bottoms for cherry ones. =)
I only mentioned corrosion because a couple users reported finding a number of them in new batches. Odd, but there it is.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71364.msg1728547#msg1728547 (10% of new batch was corroded)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71288.10
I've seen the pictures as well rpeter and got slightly worried at first tbh.
On the other hand the same thread also shows pictures of corroded cherry switches tho and comparing them the differences seem not to be as big.
From what I understand, both Cherry and Gateron seem to have plated cross points only, so the majority of the copper leaf is actually non plated for both and could potentially have corrosion issues.
I guess there could also be a difference in the copper or gold plating used, but from what I understand Gaterons might still be just as durable as Cherry switches. And the fact there is a small amount of corroded switches might just be related to storing/shipping conditions or quality control rather then the actual durability of the switches.
So Im not as concerned for now, as none of those Gaterons has corroded in a regular use case environment inside a board. (especially if frequently used so the cross points get some friction/wear to keep them polished and stop patina from building up as much)
Interesting. Do Gateron's have the same 50 million click life-cycle as Cherry? have they ever been tested in this manner?
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 04 May 2015, 14:32:54
Interesting. Do Gateron's have the same 50 million click life-cycle as Cherry? have they ever been tested in this manner?
I don't think anyone can really answer how durable Gateron exactly will turn out to be on the long term since no one seems to have been using them for a long enough period of time to actually report failures as far as I know.
Cherry usually does loads of durability testing, with switches being hammered (pretty hard) for 50 million and more click cycles, while comparing the 'force curves' and therefore tactility and feedback for example.
50 million click cycles I believe is not actually the estimated limit for the lifetime of the switch, but pretty much as far as they felt comfortable releasing the results showing a very consistent feedback over such a long period of time.
(They even do testing under crazy temperatures, quick temp changes, humidity etc)
So its really hard to compare since we don't have as detailed long time testing for Gaterons.
I don't know if Gaterons have ever been tested in this manner, but I don't know of any public released results so far.
Post by: Red_dino on Mon, 04 May 2015, 16:12:08
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 04 May 2015, 17:01:06
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Post by: atectatifern on Mon, 04 May 2015, 17:21:42
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 04 May 2015, 18:15:18
Now to go fill a pool with switches and roll around in them like Scrooge McDucknever let anyone tell you you can't achieve your dreams
Post by: swill on Mon, 04 May 2015, 19:12:05
A quick observation I made...Thanks for posting this, that's a good thing to know.
If you have a board where your switch tops show and you don't like the translucent or clear tops provided by this group buy... a black switch top from a Cherry MX switch actually works just as well. The Cherry tops fit just as snugly as the Gateron ones do and do not cause the switch to wiggle as Cherry switches do. The "optimal girth" Gateron speaks of appears to be with the bottom portion of the housing and not the top.
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Edit: 200th post! :eek:
Post by: VanGhost on Mon, 04 May 2015, 20:17:13
Does this effect the smoothness?A quick observation I made...Thanks for posting this, that's a good thing to know.
If you have a board where your switch tops show and you don't like the translucent or clear tops provided by this group buy... a black switch top from a Cherry MX switch actually works just as well. The Cherry tops fit just as snugly as the Gateron ones do and do not cause the switch to wiggle as Cherry switches do. The "optimal girth" Gateron speaks of appears to be with the bottom portion of the housing and not the top.
(Attachment Link)
Edit: 200th post! :eek:
Post by: mlng on Mon, 04 May 2015, 21:57:53
Many thanks to Shadovved and hwood for the smooth GB!
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 May 2015, 22:07:13
Now did anyone order extra Browns? I'd like to get my hands on 4 just to try out :).
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 04 May 2015, 22:08:53
My box just arrived but I haven't counted them yet. Regardless, thanks shadovved and hwood34.pm me your address son.
Now did anyone order extra Browns? I'd like to get my hands on 4 just to try out :).
Post by: omen7288 on Tue, 05 May 2015, 10:20:54
(http://i.imgur.com/TS9CMAL.jpg)
Left to right: Clears, blues, blacks, browns, switch tops.
So far, don't think I like the browns, or the clears. The browns feel muddy (I should caveat that I don't like cherry mx browns either) and the clears might be too light like other posts have mentioned. Blacks feel good on their own (not sure how long it would take to get used to stiffness on a full board). Blues are good.
However... The first two blues I pulled out of the bag felt inconsistent in terms of the pressure needed for the click. One needed more pressure to activate and the click was louder. This was even after I lubed it which is interesting. I grabbed a bunch out the bag and checked for consistency and they seemed pretty good, so maybe the one I happened to grab was not as good.
I'll have to upload more pictures when I have time for a build with these.
Post by: limster on Tue, 05 May 2015, 11:51:54
—Thank you hwood and Shadovved!!!
So well run, it's like Santa Claus is delivering switches to all kids around the world! (with staggered postal delivery times)
Post by: geo462rge on Tue, 05 May 2015, 12:54:20
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 05 May 2015, 13:02:59
installed some blues on my sixshooter....the only regret i have is not ordering more. If anyone in NYC area has more than they need, hit me up.
Keep your eyes peeled for a new GB either here or at MassDrop. They sell so well, a new buy is inevitable.
Post by: phx on Tue, 05 May 2015, 14:53:56
these are sure heavier than MX blues, only a bit tho.
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Tue, 05 May 2015, 16:56:51
Now we wait.
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 05 May 2015, 17:43:05
Tracking says that my package arrived in Brazil. Now it goes to Customs, a.k.a. Curitiba's postal black hole (Curitiba is the city here in Brazil who concentrates customs for packages with less than 2 kg).So every intl. package < 2kg goes through one place? That's very interesting!
Now we wait.
Post by: ph3nomzlol on Tue, 05 May 2015, 18:48:32
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Tue, 05 May 2015, 19:49:35
Yep. Problem is that there is too few employees for this job (Brazilian's postal service is government run).Tracking says that my package arrived in Brazil. Now it goes to Customs, a.k.a. Curitiba's postal black hole (Curitiba is the city here in Brazil who concentrates customs for packages with less than 2 kg).So every intl. package < 2kg goes through one place? That's very interesting!
Now we wait.
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 05 May 2015, 20:05:20
My wife retrieved my package from the USPS office today! Can't wait to make it back home to lay my eyes upon them :eek:
The switches, or your wife?
Post by: Slaine777 on Tue, 05 May 2015, 20:42:46
Post by: ph3nomzlol on Tue, 05 May 2015, 21:39:07
My wife retrieved my package from the USPS office today! Can't wait to make it back home to lay my eyes upon them :eek:
The switches, or your wife?
My wife with my switches. Double whammy :p
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 05 May 2015, 21:43:23
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Post by: Cottonsox on Wed, 06 May 2015, 04:23:30
Post by: awhitedev on Wed, 06 May 2015, 07:26:58
Just got mine too! Thanks Shadovved and hwood34! Replaced the springs with SPIRiT's 65g, and now waiting for the PCB! Very excited!
Are there any perceivable differences between Sprit's 65g springs and the stock ones?
Post by: vindaon on Wed, 06 May 2015, 09:30:36
Post by: hj-s on Wed, 06 May 2015, 09:43:37
Post by: Naed on Wed, 06 May 2015, 12:16:24
Thank you hwood34 and Shadovved for both organizing and shipping/handling this group buy but also for keeping the participants informed :)
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 06 May 2015, 12:19:40
Sprit's springs are measured by bottom out force, while Cherry(and Gateron?) are measured by actuation force, so a very big difference.Just got mine too! Thanks Shadovved and hwood34! Replaced the springs with SPIRiT's 65g, and now waiting for the PCB! Very excited!
Are there any perceivable differences between Sprit's 65g springs and the stock ones?
Post by: awhitedev on Wed, 06 May 2015, 12:30:53
Sprit's springs are measured by bottom out force, while Cherry(and Gateron?) are measured by actuation force, so a very big difference.Just got mine too! Thanks Shadovved and hwood34! Replaced the springs with SPIRiT's 65g, and now waiting for the PCB! Very excited!
Are there any perceivable differences between Sprit's 65g springs and the stock ones?
Sure, but I think Gateron's actuation force is measured at 50g and Sprit's bottom out force is around 65g. I'd imagine the two springs are very similar from everything I've heard... maybe +- 2-3g.
However, bottom out and actuation force isn't everything when it comes to springs... the coil in the spring can result in different characteristics too...
Post by: evera on Wed, 06 May 2015, 12:43:31
Post by: laden3 on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:54:40
It seems like the off-center presses are a bit scratchy to me... Problem seems to go away after I replaced the switch top with a cherry switch top. They feel like vintage blacks to me. :))
I have only tried it on the cherry abs, cherry pom, and the tall doubleshot pbt keycaps.
Post by: RavenII on Wed, 06 May 2015, 14:03:38
Have you guys tried typing on the switches with keycaps on them?
It seems like the off-center presses are a bit scratchy to me... Problem seems to go away after I replaced the switch top with a cherry switch top. They feel like vintage blacks to me. :))
I have only tried it on the cherry abs, cherry pom, and the tall doubleshot pbt keycaps.
I was going to ask the same thing, but didn't want to be the first...but yes, I have this issue also...my keycap stem hits the side of the housing when pressed from the bottom of the keycap vs center. At first I thought it was because the stem was too thick, but....well, you get what you pay for I guess....
Post by: laden3 on Wed, 06 May 2015, 14:18:28
Have you guys tried typing on the switches with keycaps on them?
It seems like the off-center presses are a bit scratchy to me... Problem seems to go away after I replaced the switch top with a cherry switch top. They feel like vintage blacks to me. :))
I have only tried it on the cherry abs, cherry pom, and the tall doubleshot pbt keycaps.
I was going to ask the same thing, but didn't want to be the first...but yes, I have this issue also...my keycap stem hits the side of the housing when pressed from the bottom of the keycap vs center. At first I thought it was because the stem was too thick, but....well, you get what you pay for I guess....
I have to disagree on that. ;D They are way better than the new cherry blacks.
I did some quick search on baidu and it seems like some chinese keyboard enthusiasts is involved in creating these switches. Maybe with enough feedback they can actually make better switches?
http://weistang.com/thread-816-1-1.html
The switches that I received from the GB is different from the ones showed in the link. Maybe someone who knows more about these switches can enlighten us.
Post by: Jason_IRL on Wed, 06 May 2015, 18:36:02
I can't wait to start building.
(https://igcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t51.2885-15/11199488_100541200281154_380766097_n.jpg)
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 06 May 2015, 19:03:20
The first pic is of the KS-1 series (the first version of Gaterons; had a circular indent at the stem base)Have you guys tried typing on the switches with keycaps on them?
It seems like the off-center presses are a bit scratchy to me... Problem seems to go away after I replaced the switch top with a cherry switch top. They feel like vintage blacks to me. :))
I have only tried it on the cherry abs, cherry pom, and the tall doubleshot pbt keycaps.
I was going to ask the same thing, but didn't want to be the first...but yes, I have this issue also...my keycap stem hits the side of the housing when pressed from the bottom of the keycap vs center. At first I thought it was because the stem was too thick, but....well, you get what you pay for I guess....
I have to disagree on that. ;D They are way better than the new cherry blacks.
I did some quick search on baidu and it seems like some chinese keyboard enthusiasts is involved in creating these switches. Maybe with enough feedback they can actually make better switches?
http://weistang.com/thread-816-1-1.html
The switches that I received from the GB is different from the ones showed in the link. Maybe someone who knows more about these switches can enlighten us.
Post by: laden3 on Wed, 06 May 2015, 21:22:27
The first pic is of the KS-1 series (the first version of Gaterons; had a circular indent at the stem base)
Did they stop making the first version?
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 06 May 2015, 21:54:37
Yep. Some are floating around, but they've moved on to the current designThe first pic is of the KS-1 series (the first version of Gaterons; had a circular indent at the stem base)
Did they stop making the first version?
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Wed, 06 May 2015, 22:03:49
Thanks for running this GB!
I'm not a linear guy, but these are so smooooth
Missing one of each switch and I have 3 extra tops.
Nothing to complain about
Thanks again :)
Post by: rand77 on Thu, 07 May 2015, 00:28:00
Thanks Canada Post! :))
Post by: daviswalkers on Thu, 07 May 2015, 02:21:21
(http://i.imgur.com/0fdzFdI.jpg)
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 07 May 2015, 08:46:25
so here is what i did with mine my first custom built keyboard sadly the caps i ordered ive been waiting on for 3 month but ive seen people wait longer, currently typing on the switches atm lol. for some reason the shift key isn't capitalizing even though in the keymapper it registers the shift key keypresses so if anyone has any insight on that please let me know (edit I figured it out I was on the Fn layer when I mapped shift!), also as im sure you can tell by the picture the leds are pretty dim compared to the lock key leds and i can seem to figure that out as well as why a few key's lights dont work at all as they're soldered in well and correctly also they worked when tested in other locations and the caps lock led worked before i mapped it to be control instead ... either way here's the picture in all of its potato gloryShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/0fdzFdI.jpg)
Solder on the LEDs the other way around for the bottom mods. If you look closely on the PCB, the polarity is facing a he other way (this is due to wkl support). Not too sure about your esc key, perhaps check polarity on that as well?
Post by: phx on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:34:27
Have you guys tried typing on the switches with keycaps on them?
It seems like the off-center presses are a bit scratchy to me... Problem seems to go away after I replaced the switch top with a cherry switch top. They feel like vintage blacks to me. :))
I have only tried it on the cherry abs, cherry pom, and the tall doubleshot pbt keycaps.
damn I have this issue too... seems like I will be resoldering my board.
on that note, anyone got spare mx switch covers?
Post by: Dee1 on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:38:40
Post by: ideus on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:51:53
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:35:00
Some have reported issues when Gateron switches are used with Cherry (GMK) caps. Has someone tested them with SP's DSA caps?
I have my Dolch DSA caps on my Gaterons. It has the same problem. If you press the key off-center, the cap will catch on the housing. This only happens on the LED side. (south for most keyboards, but sometimes north)
Post by: rand77 on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:35:18
Some have reported issues when Gateron switches are used with Cherry (GMK) caps. Has someone tested them with SP's DSA caps?
Yes briefly, I did not notice any severe issues with DSA keycaps. This was with clears.
Post by: awhitedev on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:00:15
Some have reported issues when Gateron switches are used with Cherry (GMK) caps. Has someone tested them with SP's DSA caps?
I have my Dolch DSA caps on my Gaterons. It has the same problem. If you press the key off-center, the cap will catch on the housing. This only happens on the LED side. (south for most keyboards, but sometimes north)
Is this a problem with all switches or just some of them? I wonder if it's better when you use a stock cherry or gateron clear top?
I was going to solder a bunch of these onto my new board...but now I'm a little worried.
Post by: animated on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:23:29
Some have reported issues when Gateron switches are used with Cherry (GMK) caps. Has someone tested them with SP's DSA caps?
I have my Dolch DSA caps on my Gaterons. It has the same problem. If you press the key off-center, the cap will catch on the housing. This only happens on the LED side. (south for most keyboards, but sometimes north)
Is this a problem with all switches or just some of them? I wonder if it's better when you use a stock cherry or gateron clear top?
I was going to solder a bunch of these onto my new board...but now I'm a little worried.
Now I'm worried! I already soldered half of the keyboard that is waiting on the granite dsa keycaps to come in! Oh noooooo. I hope someone with DSA keycaps can test this a little more.
Post by: evera on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:31:03
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:56:17
I just got a letter from the customs office about a package listed as 'keyboard parts' from Singapore (so Im guessing Gaterons).
They claim it wasn't labeled correctly with a bill on the outside of the package and therefore took it hostage.
So in result I will have to pick it up there, and unbox it in front of their eyes within a deadline and then most likely
pay import taxes according to what they classify it as... xD
It's not too bad tho I guess and it had to happen one day. Just have to find time to go there within their business hours and the deadline.
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 07 May 2015, 14:35:18
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 07 May 2015, 14:55:28
Oh Boy...
I just got a letter from the customs office about a package listed as 'keyboard parts' from Singapore (so Im guessing Gaterons).
They claim it wasn't labeled correctly with a bill on the outside of the package and therefore took it hostage.
So in result I will have to pick it up there, and unbox it in front of their eyes within a deadline and then most likely
pay import taxes according to what they classify it as... xD
It's not too bad tho I guess and it had to happen one day. Just have to find time to go there within their business hours and the deadline.
Someone's being paid off by Cherry...
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 07 May 2015, 15:16:43
"Bill" as in bill of sale? Strange. The switches are pretty obviously keyboard parts, so that shouldn't be a problem. Maybe bring a keycap to stick on just in case. Tell them that the switches are sold in bulk for two cents each. :)
I guess 'bill' as in specifying the value on the outside of the box, but idk honestly.
It most likely wont be that bad, but bringing a keycap might actually be an idea. =)
They probably want me to open it to check for the value specified somewhere (bill/invoice) to figure if they need to charge taxes and how much, that's all. :)
If they can't find the value specified somewhere they will most likely just google 'gateron switch' so Im already kinda looking forward to see the guy from the customs office browsing on GeekHack... xD
Oh Boy...
I just got a letter from the customs office about a package listed as 'keyboard parts' from Singapore (so Im guessing Gaterons).
They claim it wasn't labeled correctly with a bill on the outside of the package and therefore took it hostage.
So in result I will have to pick it up there, and unbox it in front of their eyes within a deadline and then most likely
pay import taxes according to what they classify it as... xD
It's not too bad tho I guess and it had to happen one day. Just have to find time to go there within their business hours and the deadline.
Someone's being paid off by Cherry...
Wait what? xD
I've never heard being paid & Cherry in the same sentence before, but sounds pretty sweet actually... :p
(not for false advertising tho obviously)
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 07 May 2015, 15:21:41
"Bill" as in bill of sale? Strange. The switches are pretty obviously keyboard parts, so that shouldn't be a problem. Maybe bring a keycap to stick on just in case. Tell them that the switches are sold in bulk for two cents each. :)
I guess 'bill' as in specifying the value on the outside of the box, but idk honestly.
It most likely wont be that bad, but bringing a keycap might actually be an idea. =)
They probably want me to open it to check for the value specified somewhere (bill/invoice) to figure if they need to charge taxes and how much, that's all. :)
If they can't find the value specified somewhere they will most likely just google 'gateron switch' so Im already kinda looking forward to see the guy from the customs office browsing on GeekHack... xD
Last time I had to go to the customs office was for the crap bag and I just had to shake the package to convince officer :p
Post by: ideus on Thu, 07 May 2015, 15:23:28
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 07 May 2015, 16:05:53
"Bill" as in bill of sale? Strange. The switches are pretty obviously keyboard parts, so that shouldn't be a problem. Maybe bring a keycap to stick on just in case. Tell them that the switches are sold in bulk for two cents each. :)
I guess 'bill' as in specifying the value on the outside of the box, but idk honestly.
It most likely wont be that bad, but bringing a keycap might actually be an idea. =)
They probably want me to open it to check for the value specified somewhere (bill/invoice) to figure if they need to charge taxes and how much, that's all. :)
If they can't find the value specified somewhere they will most likely just google 'gateron switch' so Im already kinda looking forward to see the guy from the customs office browsing on GeekHack... xD
Last time I had to go to the customs office was for the crap bag and I just had to shake the package to convince officer :p
Oh wow, thx wlhlm!
I've never had to pick something up from customs office personally before tbh as it always just went through so thx for the experience! :)
I'll report back next week once I've picked it up! =)
Still hoping he somehow ends up browsing geekhack tho...
Post by: leesofi on Thu, 07 May 2015, 17:08:20
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 07 May 2015, 17:31:44
Post by: leesofi on Thu, 07 May 2015, 19:24:38
Post by: ideus on Thu, 07 May 2015, 19:44:14
Post by: drojf on Thu, 07 May 2015, 20:15:35
I want to swap my BLACKS for your BROWNS - I don't care whether they're Gateron, Cherry, any type of browns are fine. I'd be willing to swap 50-100 of them. Please note I'm located in Australia, so shipping may be long/short depending on where you live.
Never mind, worked something out.
Post by: StarWarsAs on Fri, 08 May 2015, 00:23:23
Post by: CG on Fri, 08 May 2015, 01:23:38
Post by: Sirakain on Fri, 08 May 2015, 01:29:23
Anyone knows what value he declared on the customs bill?
Mine was 25$ for 200 switches labeled as 'keyboard parts', and he ticked the 'gift' box :)
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Fri, 08 May 2015, 03:07:00
Then the mailman came yesterday for a failed delivery and left a pickup notice yesterday. That is according to the online tracking, but said notice didn't arrive until today... I think some lazy mailman is trolling.
Anyway, it seems I ended up with a couple extra blues and clear covers =)
I played around with the switches for a bit and made some observations (as someone that has never handled switches in this detail before):
The springs from clear switches are not strong enough to work in blues after adding the weight of a keycap. =P
The scratchy feeling comes from the top cover. It looks to me that the sliders stems don't even make contact with the slider rails from the bottom casing. The parts that the stems rub against are all from the top cover. There's a hood on the top cover that envelops around the slider rails. Those hoods on either sides actually jut out more than the walls of the rails. There are also the two ribs that go down from the logo side and the opposing two on the led side that run down the top cover. The ribs and the hood together are what the slider stem touches and make the switch feel scratchy. It may not be the same for cherrys, but it almost seems to me that people have been lubing the wrong places?!?!?
Clear top covers are a harder and smoother plastic. They make the switches smooth - almost like they are on ice.
Observing blue switches through the translucent housing and playing around with them with the top cover off made me realize it was the copper leafs that were making the click and not the white slider part as people have been saying.
Also, trampoline gateron is awesome =)
Now I just gotta find some parts to make some jailhouses. =D
EDIT: Maybe I was wrong about the blues clicky mechanism. It seems that both do the clicking, but the slider does far more of it
Post by: RavenII on Fri, 08 May 2015, 13:08:24
It's not the keycaps, it's the switches. If you examine the tops, and compare the two sides against a Cherry MX, the issue becomes clear.
With imsto pbt is fine(gateron clear) but have same issue with gmk keycaps.(gateron brown)
Some have reported issues when Gateron switches are used with Cherry (GMK) caps. Has someone tested them with SP's DSA caps?
I have my Dolch DSA caps on my Gaterons. It has the same problem. If you press the key off-center, the cap will catch on the housing. This only happens on the LED side. (south for most keyboards, but sometimes north)
Is this a problem with all switches or just some of them? I wonder if it's better when you use a stock cherry or gateron clear top?
I was going to solder a bunch of these onto my new board...but now I'm a little worried.
Some have reported issues when Gateron switches are used with Cherry (GMK) caps. Has someone tested them with SP's DSA caps?
I have my Dolch DSA caps on my Gaterons. It has the same problem. If you press the key off-center, the cap will catch on the housing. This only happens on the LED side. (south for most keyboards, but sometimes north)
Is this a problem with all switches or just some of them? I wonder if it's better when you use a stock cherry or gateron clear top?
I was going to solder a bunch of these onto my new board...but now I'm a little worried.
Now I'm worried! I already soldered half of the keyboard that is waiting on the granite dsa keycaps to come in! Oh noooooo. I hope someone with DSA keycaps can test this a little more.
I've got https://www.massdrop.com/buy/two-tone-doubleshot-abs-keycaps/ and some caps cause this issues, some don't. For instance, the N keycap causes this issues BAD where as Y doesn't. I've tried it on a bunch out of my 330 black switches...and they all yielded the same result.
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 08 May 2015, 13:50:45
With imsto pbt is fine(gateron clear) but have same issue with gmk keycaps.(gateron brown)
Yep, my GMK catch on some of my Blacks (about half. not all of them) when pressed from the front at certain angles, but my Imsto caps work just fine on those same switches.
Post by: awhitedev on Fri, 08 May 2015, 13:55:48
Post by: RavenII on Fri, 08 May 2015, 14:00:22
Could someone put together a quick video on the switch sticking? I've not had this experience yet with cherry or dsa profile caps.
Here you go...
Post by: rpeterclark on Fri, 08 May 2015, 17:04:02
Could someone put together a quick video on the switch sticking? I've not had this experience yet with cherry or dsa profile caps.If no one has posted it yet, I'll do one when I get home from work in about 2 hours.
Here you go...
Yikes, that's pretty gnarly! I'm quite surprised that the issue seems involves the cap too, figured it would be mostly dependent on the switch top. I pity the guy that solders these onto a plate without switch top removal only to discover the issue afterwards.
Post by: awhitedev on Fri, 08 May 2015, 17:07:19
Could someone put together a quick video on the switch sticking? I've not had this experience yet with cherry or dsa profile caps.If no one has posted it yet, I'll do one when I get home from work in about 2 hours.
Here you go...
Thanks for sharing... that's pretty bad! I'll have to go test mine now...
Edit: I wonder what it's getting caught on?? I tested a couple Cherry profile N keys and none of mine are doing that... That row seems to get closest to the inner part of the keycap... perhaps between GMK's thickness and Gateron's girth it's just too much
Edit Edit: What keycaps are those that you are testing with?
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 08 May 2015, 19:07:46
Post by: Grrizz on Fri, 08 May 2015, 19:11:53
480 browns and 240 blacks:
(http://i.imgur.com/y0hl5TJl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/y0hl5TJ)
+ 120 reds from Massdrop, cherry PCB stabs and stickers from Gons and keycaps from Max:
(http://i.imgur.com/D3LlBxnl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/D3LlBxn)
(http://i.imgur.com/iVvtpmPl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/iVvtpmP)
:thumb:
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 08 May 2015, 19:30:42
It's not that bad, guys. For it to happen, you have to press the keys in a way you won't normally do.
Some are worse then others. Just weird that it does it on almost half of mine, and not all of them.
I have plenty of Imsto sets I can use with them since they don't seem to have the issue.
Post by: dashing_girlboy on Fri, 08 May 2015, 20:44:04
Post by: ideus on Fri, 08 May 2015, 21:16:46
Post by: crazystu on Fri, 08 May 2015, 21:41:32
For everyone having issues with the switches catching, they are reparable. I had a Cherry MX Red that had this issue, see:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.msg1696546#msg1696546
Post by: RavenII on Fri, 08 May 2015, 22:12:32
It's not that bad, guys. For it to happen, you have to press the keys in a way you won't normally do.
Not true, I initially put those switches in to type on them so I could decide whether or not I want lighter springs, then I noticed the issue. I was typing on the plate as I normally would...what ever normal is anymore...that's a different story.
Post by: VanGhost on Fri, 08 May 2015, 23:53:32
It's not that bad, guys. For it to happen, you have to press the keys in a way you won't normally do.It happens for me just with normal typing. About half of mine are pretty much unusable, a quarter are just unpleasant, and the rest are OK.
Post by: azhdar on Sat, 09 May 2015, 02:30:43
Post by: jorgenslee on Sat, 09 May 2015, 04:39:29
A quick observation: seems like the bottom of the switch is from an old batch and only the top is new.
About the issue, does the bottom or the top cause this?
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 09 May 2015, 04:50:34
Oh Boy...
I just got a letter from the customs office about a package listed as 'keyboard parts' from Singapore (so Im guessing Gaterons).
They claim it wasn't labeled correctly with a bill on the outside of the package and therefore took it hostage.
So in result I will have to pick it up there, and unbox it in front of their eyes within a deadline and then most likely
pay import taxes according to what they classify it as... xD
It's not too bad tho I guess and it had to happen one day. Just have to find time to go there within their business hours and the deadline.
Tell him the CN22 custom's declaration is on the sticker together with the address.
The declared amount and qty are on it. You should be able to use it to pass.........
Post by: tjweir on Sat, 09 May 2015, 07:56:39
Thanks hwood and shadovv!
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sat, 09 May 2015, 14:55:42
Oh Boy...
I just got a letter from the customs office about a package listed as 'keyboard parts' from Singapore (so Im guessing Gaterons).
They claim it wasn't labeled correctly with a bill on the outside of the package and therefore took it hostage.
So in result I will have to pick it up there, and unbox it in front of their eyes within a deadline and then most likely
pay import taxes according to what they classify it as... xD
It's not too bad tho I guess and it had to happen one day. Just have to find time to go there within their business hours and the deadline.
Tell him the CN22 custom's declaration is on the sticker together with the address.
The declared amount and qty are on it. You should be able to use it to pass.........
Thx Shadovved! :)
I'm trying to catch some time to go and pick them up tomorrow! :thumb:
Edit: Wait... Two days whoops! Monday xD
Post by: "Edgar Allen Pho is Dead." on Sun, 10 May 2015, 00:45:30
Post by: Moderate on Sun, 10 May 2015, 03:40:49
Thanks again to hwood34 and Shadovved for organising this and handling it so well! 10/10 would groupbuy again :)
Post by: rpeterclark on Sun, 10 May 2015, 08:04:07
Post by: ideus on Sun, 10 May 2015, 08:05:30
Switches arrived yesterday! It looks like there was a mistake in my favor, received an extra 100 blacks and 100 clears. PM me if that's an issue, otherwise I will put them to good use!
wow, 200 extras, that is very cool, I hope you can keep them.
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 10 May 2015, 10:27:59
Switches arrived yesterday! It looks like there was a mistake in my favor, received an extra 100 blacks and 100 clears. PM me if that's an issue, otherwise I will put them to good use!PM'd
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sun, 10 May 2015, 11:10:30
Post by: CyriusG on Sun, 10 May 2015, 12:40:30
Got mine today, thanks for the GB.
A quick observation: seems like the bottom of the switch is from an old batch and only the top is new.
About the issue, does the bottom or the top cause this?
It seems to be the top that's causing it because I've tried switching tops with original Cherry switches and also sanded the Gateron top and both fixed the issue.
Post by: animated on Sun, 10 May 2015, 13:49:48
Got mine today, thanks for the GB.
A quick observation: seems like the bottom of the switch is from an old batch and only the top is new.
About the issue, does the bottom or the top cause this?
It seems to be the top that's causing it because I've tried switching tops with original Cherry switches and also sanded the Gateron top and both fixed the issue.
Where did you sand on the gateron switch? I'm using desko RGB's and they 're slightly catching. My IMSTO keycaps work fine though.
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 10 May 2015, 15:13:22
Post by: CyriusG on Sun, 10 May 2015, 15:47:22
Got mine today, thanks for the GB.
A quick observation: seems like the bottom of the switch is from an old batch and only the top is new.
About the issue, does the bottom or the top cause this?
It seems to be the top that's causing it because I've tried switching tops with original Cherry switches and also sanded the Gateron top and both fixed the issue.
Where did you sand on the gateron switch? I'm using desko RGB's and they 're slightly catching. My IMSTO keycaps work fine though.
I sanded the bottom part of the housing.
Post by: Eszett on Sun, 10 May 2015, 20:17:57
1) the leg is abit to thick for most PCB holes
2) the housing top (at the point where LEDs are mounted) touches and rubs against the keycap
correct?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 May 2015, 20:21:25
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 10 May 2015, 20:25:47
I'm confused where this thing about Gateron's not fitting PCBs came from. Tested it on a TechKeys business card and a Leeku 3000 PCB that I have. Both are fitting fine. I have to put a little more force on them versus MX but it's not that bad.I think that was pretty much the extent of the problem most people were having, it they just fit a little more snuggly
Post by: Eszett on Sun, 10 May 2015, 20:38:49
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 May 2015, 20:45:35
I'm confused where this thing about Gateron's not fitting PCBs came from. Tested it on a TechKeys business card and a Leeku 3000 PCB that I have. Both are fitting fine. I have to put a little more force on them versus MX but it's not that bad.I think that was pretty much the extent of the problem most people were having, it they just fit a little more snuggly
Exitfire's build log included sandpaper so I was super confused...
Post by: ideus on Sun, 10 May 2015, 20:46:47
When I understood this thread right, there are two issues with Gateron switches
1) the leg is abit to thick for most PCB holes
2) the housing top (at the point where LEDs are mounted) touches and rubs against the keycap
correct?
That is right:
Gateron's legs are thicker and stem clearance is smaller than Cherry's causing interference with PCB holes, the first, and with cap stems the last. A small jewelry file tool may be handy to fix both, another additional step before soldering them.
Post by: Eszett on Sun, 10 May 2015, 20:57:42
Post by: CyriusG on Mon, 11 May 2015, 13:52:56
Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 11 May 2015, 14:38:17
Has anyone experienced the issues with the clear tops? I was planning to later purchase some for my Orion but I'm now wary about Gateron tops after the issues with regular Gateron tops.The Clear tops appear to be the same mould, so the issue applies there as well.
Post by: CyriusG on Mon, 11 May 2015, 15:25:29
Has anyone experienced the issues with the clear tops? I was planning to later purchase some for my Orion but I'm now wary about Gateron tops after the issues with regular Gateron tops.The Clear tops appear to be the same mould, so the issue applies there as well.
That's unfortunate. Might have to skip those or get some from another make in that case.
Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 11 May 2015, 15:30:39
I don't think this issue is that prevalent as it might sound. People have been trying Gateron switches and tops before this group buy with a diverse set of keycaps and I haven't seen any reports before.Has anyone experienced the issues with the clear tops? I was planning to later purchase some for my Orion but I'm now wary about Gateron tops after the issues with regular Gateron tops.The Clear tops appear to be the same mould, so the issue applies there as well.
That's unfortunate. Might have to skip those or get some from another make in that case.
Post by: whentheclouds on Mon, 11 May 2015, 15:33:34
Post by: CyriusG on Mon, 11 May 2015, 15:44:36
I don't think this issue is that prevalent as it might sound. People have been trying Gateron switches and tops before this group buy with a diverse set of keycaps and I haven't seen any reports before.Has anyone experienced the issues with the clear tops? I was planning to later purchase some for my Orion but I'm now wary about Gateron tops after the issues with regular Gateron tops.The Clear tops appear to be the same mould, so the issue applies there as well.
That's unfortunate. Might have to skip those or get some from another make in that case.
I guess we just hit a bad batch.
Post by: awhitedev on Mon, 11 May 2015, 16:48:34
the Clear tops are less wobbly than the originals, or did i misremember something?
I didn't notice any difference with my clear tops. They're just a rigid as the stock ones.
I'm thinking that between the rigidity and the lack of spacing on the LED side (as metal pointed out) is what is causing the issue.
I wonder if it's more prevalent with a specific slider?
Post by: ThatRusty on Mon, 11 May 2015, 16:50:53
Thinking about trading my browns for cherry MX Clears, think someone would go for that?
Post by: ideus on Mon, 11 May 2015, 17:14:01
the Clear tops are less wobbly than the originals, or did i misremember something?
I didn't notice any difference with my clear tops. They're just a rigid as the stock ones.
I'm thinking that between the rigidity and the lack of spacing on the LED side (as metal pointed out) is what is causing the issue.
I wonder if it's more prevalent with a specific slider?
The interference is between the top of the switch and the stem of the caps.
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 12 May 2015, 05:59:46
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 12 May 2015, 06:25:38
My switches seem to be stuck in customs, it has been over 3 weeks since shipping and I haven't heard anything yet :( I hope they hurry.I collected my switches from the post office yesterday, shouldn't be that long until you get them. ;)
Post by: sprit on Tue, 12 May 2015, 08:32:36
The interference is between the top of the switch and the stem of the caps.
If I read right, and still hope it's Not true...
The sticking problem seems from the person(s) at Gateron who assigned to copy Cherry MX switches. He seems do not understood the role of both notches on top.
Or he does not have Cherry 1800 or 3000 boards to verify his work.
Thick caps as Cherry original, GMK double shots and some others seem have some interferences with a bit narrow Gateron stem holes?? :(
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.msg1695644#msg1695644 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.msg1695644#msg1695644)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Gsf38Veoo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Gsf38Veoo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2a5ZZyQ-t0&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2a5ZZyQ-t0&feature=youtu.be)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq6MPmEn-Rs&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq6MPmEn-Rs&feature=youtu.be)
[attach=1] [attach=2] [attach=3] [attach=4] pics : Stabilized
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 12 May 2015, 08:35:02
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 12 May 2015, 08:36:31
Isn't the problem only on the clear top, all videos and pictures I've seen about it were with clear top, not the milky one.The interference is between the top of the switch and the stem of the caps.If I read right, and still hope it's Not true...
The sticking problem seems from the person(s) at Gateron who assigned to copy Cherry MX switches. He seems do not understood the role of both notches on top.
Or he does not have Cherry 1800 or 3000 boards to verify his work.
Thick caps as Cherry original, GMK double shots and some others seem have some interferences with a bit narrow Gateron stem holes?? :(
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.msg1695644#msg1695644 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.msg1695644#msg1695644)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Gsf38Veoo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Gsf38Veoo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2a5ZZyQ-t0&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2a5ZZyQ-t0&feature=youtu.be)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq6MPmEn-Rs&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq6MPmEn-Rs&feature=youtu.be)
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
I have a gateron boards with cherry dyesubs on it. And I have no problem at all.
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 12 May 2015, 08:37:25
The clear and the milky tops are identical AFAICT.Isn't the problem only on the clear top, all videos and pictures I've seen about it were with clear top, not the milky one.The interference is between the top of the switch and the stem of the caps.If I read right, and still hope it's Not true...
The sticking problem seems from the person(s) at Gateron who assigned to copy Cherry MX switches. He seems do not understood the role of both notches on top.
Or he does not have Cherry 1800 or 3000 boards to verify his work.
Thick caps as Cherry original, GMK double shots and some others seem have some interferences with a bit narrow Gateron stem holes?? :(
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.msg1695644#msg1695644 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.msg1695644#msg1695644)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Gsf38Veoo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Gsf38Veoo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2a5ZZyQ-t0&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2a5ZZyQ-t0&feature=youtu.be)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq6MPmEn-Rs&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq6MPmEn-Rs&feature=youtu.be)
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
I have a gateron boards with cherry dyesubs on it. And I have no problem at all.
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 May 2015, 08:37:46
When I understood this thread right, there are two issues with Gateron switches
1) the leg is abit to thick for most PCB holes
2) the housing top (at the point where LEDs are mounted) touches and rubs against the keycap
correct?
That is right:
Gateron's legs are thicker and stem clearance is smaller than Cherry's causing interference with PCB holes, the first, and with cap stems the last. A small jewelry file tool may be handy to fix both, another additional step before soldering them.
Again...I think you're mistaken. Do you have Gaterons in hand and tried them out? They fit perfectly fine in the PCBs I've tried and caps fit on them just fine. I haven't had any jamming problems.
Just because you have to use a little extra force doesn't mean they don't fit into PCBs
Stop blowing things out of proportion.
Isn't the problem only on the clear top, all videos and pictures I've seen about it were with clear top, not the milky one.
I have a gateron boards with cherry dyesubs on it. And I have no problem at all.
I think this might be the case. I'm using the milky housing Gateron Blacks. I don't have any of the Clear housings.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 12 May 2015, 08:37:49
Isn't the problem only on the clear top, all videos and pictures I've seen about it were with clear top, not the milky one.The interference is between the top of the switch and the stem of the caps.If I read right, and still hope it's Not true...
The sticking problem seems from the person(s) at Gateron who assigned to copy Cherry MX switches. He seems do not understood the role of both notches on top.
Or he does not have Cherry 1800 or 3000 boards to verify his work.
Thick caps as Cherry original, GMK double shots and some others seem have some interferences with a bit narrow Gateron stem holes?? :(
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.msg1695644#msg1695644 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.msg1695644#msg1695644)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Gsf38Veoo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Gsf38Veoo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2a5ZZyQ-t0&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2a5ZZyQ-t0&feature=youtu.be)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq6MPmEn-Rs&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq6MPmEn-Rs&feature=youtu.be)
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
I have a gateron boards with cherry dyesubs on it. And I have no problem at all.
It is very likely that both tops share the same mold.
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 12 May 2015, 08:40:59
Still my gateron board has: cherry dyesubs, brocaps, krytone caps, and even GMK caps.
None of those caps is sticking at all.
Just like the same way that people say gaterons don't fit in pcb holes I don't get it, they fit nicely.
I don't get it.
Post by: sprit on Tue, 12 May 2015, 08:43:38
I wonder how easy it would be to talk to them and work out some of the kinks... ::)Email or Message to them ?
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 12 May 2015, 10:22:12
Again...I think you're mistaken. Do you have Gaterons in hand and tried them out? They fit perfectly fine in the PCBs I've tried and caps fit on them just fine. I haven't had any jamming problems.
I had to shave the legs a hair to get them to fit comfortably in my Butterfly Lightpad PCB. Otherwise they were very difficult to push in and I'm not sure they sat all the way in.
Post by: Spopepro on Tue, 12 May 2015, 11:13:07
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 May 2015, 11:16:23
I think if there's any story here it's how poorly defined the tolerances are for the various parts we work with. I've not yet encountered any issues with keycap interference. The switches dropped right into my RSIII PCB, but are a very, very tight fit on my winkeyless.kr board. I've never seen a datasheet for the gaterons so I can't say for sure if they are made with exactly the same drill guide as their cherry counterparts.
Here's a discussion with a datasheet from both Gateron and Cherry: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71368.msg1728555#msg1728555
Cherry is the top image, Gateron is below.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 12 May 2015, 11:17:37
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 May 2015, 11:20:17
Keyboard switches are standard components; thus, they should meet the same design and manufacturing tolerances.
Definitely not true. They do *not* have the same tolerances (see the post just above yours). But even with the differences in tolerances, I didn't have any issues with the Gaterons.
Post by: Spopepro on Tue, 12 May 2015, 11:20:53
I think if there's any story here it's how poorly defined the tolerances are for the various parts we work with. I've not yet encountered any issues with keycap interference. The switches dropped right into my RSIII PCB, but are a very, very tight fit on my winkeyless.kr board. I've never seen a datasheet for the gaterons so I can't say for sure if they are made with exactly the same drill guide as their cherry counterparts.
Here's a discussion with a datasheet from both Gateron and Cherry: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71368.msg1728555#msg1728555
Cherry is the top image, Gateron is below.
Thanks for that! I'll pull out the calipers soon and see how the PCBs and the switches hold up to that. I find it hard to believe that .05mm is the cause of this... something seems slightly out of spec.
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 May 2015, 11:24:09
That's all I'm trying to say. Don't be so quick to say ALL X ARE BAD or ALL Y ARE GOOD and then jump on that hype train. Do a little research and some testing on your own. (Not directing this at anyone in general, just this debate).
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 12 May 2015, 11:25:46
Keyboard switches are standard components; thus, they should meet the same design and manufacturing tolerances. In the other hand, there is now group thinking that motivates people to "look for the issues as reported by others", instead of objectively try the parts.
Looser tolerances mean lower cost. It seems that leg holes are looser on consumer mass produced PCBs as well, so those tolerances don't matter as much.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 12 May 2015, 11:26:37
Keyboard switches are standard components; thus, they should meet the same design and manufacturing tolerances.
Definitely not true. They do *not* have the same tolerances (see the post just above yours). But even with the differences in tolerances, I didn't have any issues with the Gaterons.
I know Gateron approaches the diameter and true position tolerances for pins differently, what I said is that the final product should fit a standard PCB in the same way than Cherry, what we have in fact is that Gateron's design approach is producing some parts that do not fit a standard PCB as well as Cherry. That means Cherry has a better design approach, as reported by some, reports that I should not dismiss, just because other of us do not experience.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Tue, 12 May 2015, 16:32:02
From briefly testing a couple of loose switches with Krytone Caps on them tho I noticed I could cause them to get stuck by purposely tilting the cap slightly before pressing, but even off center pushing of the Caps would NOT cause them to tilt enough to get stuck. So it looked like no issue on regular typing.
On the other hand, the room for error seems to be very small, so I can definitely imagine that even thicker stems (or the same thickness but with slight imperfections/marks from molding left on them) could cause this to be noticeable even on regular typing.
I will probably do some tests with filing ever so slightly on a few switches like CPTBadAss mentioned as it feels like just a tiny bit of additional play/wiggle-room would totally eliminate the issue even covering possible tolerances.
Also I was testing with the milky switch tops btw, but from the looks both seem to be using the same mold.
I guess due to potential differences in flex/hardness and maybe shrinkage of the material there might still be slight differences, but it looks like both will be affected about the same.
Post by: TLExile on Tue, 12 May 2015, 20:58:27
But i do love that the tops on the gateron actually allows 3mm led's with flanges to fit flush with the top as opposed to the cherry ones that require sanding. nice touch
Post by: Grrizz on Wed, 13 May 2015, 02:34:30
The cap catching problem is tough to say what part is the issue because I've never seen a spec on that part of the switch but again it could possibly be the cap makers tolerance instead of the switch, the reason I tend to think this is I have seen a post where one cap would work fine on any switch but another from the same set would catch on any switch suggesting a variance in the caps not the switches. Gaterons have a visibly smaller, if only slightly (~0.3mm), clearance on the LED side of the switch but the above example tends to suggest their tolerances are fairly consistent even though they seem to have tighter nominal fits all round. I would be interested to hear from others with catching caps if they catch on all switches or if they catch on some but not others as that would help narrow down if its a cap tolerance issue paired with tighter fitting switch dimensions or if it is in fact looser tolerances on the switches themselves.
So far all the caps I've tried (granted not a lot) don't catch and the PCBs I've designed with measurements taken directly from the Cherry/Gateron (they are the same) metric spec fit tightly. I'm still very happy with the switches and if I do run into these issues I'm glad its a fairly simple fix but if they are actually issues with the switches tolerances it would be a shame as it would be a good reason for mass producers to overlook using them.
My 2c :)
Edit: After digging a bit more it looks like the PCB pins on the Gaterons have a ~1.5mm core with three ~0.15mm "wings", the hole specs are 1.7-0.05mm (Cherry) 1.7+/-0.05mm (Gateron) which would suggest the Gaterons "wings" are in fact designed to be press fit onto the PCB being the pins have a maximum cross-section of 1.65mm and a interference circumference of 1.8mm requiring a 0.025-0.075mm compression on the wings. I don't have any PCB mount Cherrys to compare.
For reference the stem clearance on Cherrys are ~6.65mm while on Gaterons it's ~6.35mm so with what I regard as a standard stem (5.5mm) there shouldn't be any issues but thicker ones at 6mm or larger might have issues depending on how much wobble comes into play.
I would say my measurements are reasonably accurate but there may be some error due to the sharp edges of my callipers cutting into the softer plastic and in the case of the stem clearance the thin walls may have flexed a small amount (I was as careful as I could be and took measurements from several switches for comparison).
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 13 May 2015, 03:42:47
But i do love that the tops on the gateron actually allows 3mm led's with flanges to fit flush with the top as opposed to the cherry ones that require sanding. nice touchI haven't even realised this, but yes my 3mm LEDs with flange fit as well. That's pretty awesome! :cool:
Post by: Fire Brand on Wed, 13 May 2015, 08:13:27
Just also chiming in had my gaterons for a couple of weeks now and I would like to say the one I have are very tight when pushing into the pcb test on a leopold 210 keypad and a pure pcb both needed quite a bit of froce to seat them correctly but I will say for the pure or any pcb mount it makes them a lot sturdier and seem to be better aligned and not wobbly like I had with cherry switches anyway that's my musing on themAgain...I think you're mistaken. Do you have Gaterons in hand and tried them out? They fit perfectly fine in the PCBs I've tried and caps fit on them just fine. I haven't had any jamming problems.
I had to shave the legs a hair to get them to fit comfortably in my Butterfly Lightpad PCB. Otherwise they were very difficult to push in and I'm not sure they sat all the way in.
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 13 May 2015, 09:43:50
Post by: Spopepro on Wed, 13 May 2015, 12:33:51
Edit: After digging a bit more it looks like the PCB pins on the Gaterons have a ~1.5mm core with three ~0.15mm "wings", the hole specs are 1.7-0.05mm (Cherry) 1.7+/-0.05mm (Gateron) which would suggest the Gaterons "wings" are in fact designed to be press fit onto the PCB being the pins have a maximum cross-section of 1.65mm and a interference circumference of 1.8mm requiring a 0.025-0.075mm compression on the wings. I don't have any PCB mount Cherrys to compare.
Measuring a few cherry switches I got readings between 1.6 and 1.7mm as I moved around the pin (due to the aforementioned "wings" to create the interference fit). I get exactly the same results with a handful of Gaterons using the same method. So the diameter wouldn't have an effect. But I don't have fine enough equipment to measure the width and length of the "wings" which could create more or less interference.
Interestingly, the drill holes for the pins on the RSIII measure right around 1.7mm... right on spec. The winkeyless.kr holes measure all around 1.52mm... which is out of spec regardless of switch.
So what I think (think...) is going on is that the designers are placing a 1.7mm drill hole, and then the fancy soldermask that is used is closing up the hole a little bit.
Based on what I can measure, it's not the switches, it's the PCBs that are out of spec.
Post by: sprit on Wed, 13 May 2015, 19:31:59
My W series PCBs have exactly 1.7mm pin holes. People say it's very snug and comfy for Cherry MX, and bit tight for Gaterons.
I guess it's same with the winkeyless.kr PCBs.
If A winkeyless.kr PCB was measured as 1.52mm by you, there seems a problem. Need to confirm. ;)
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Post by: Spopepro on Wed, 13 May 2015, 19:45:14
I went back and measured more holes to be sure, and found many larger, but all at or under 1.6mm on my winkeyless board. To be sure: it's not really a problem, just requires a touch more focus.
Post by: sprit on Wed, 13 May 2015, 19:50:50
Spirit, have you measured what you actually get after masking is applied? To the eye, it looks like the holes were drilled at 1.7mm but were occluded by soldermasking. I'm just curious.Oh! Thanks So Much!! Spopepro! :thumb:
I went back and measured more holes to be sure, and found many larger, but all at or under 1.6mm on my winkeyless board. To be sure: it's not really a problem, just requires a touch more focus.
Covered by soldermask : I will write back in 30 min after a break.
Post by: sprit on Wed, 13 May 2015, 20:09:36
Spirit, have you measured what you actually get after masking is applied? To the eye, it looks like the holes were drilled at 1.7mm but were occluded by soldermasking. I'm just curious.
I went back and measured more holes to be sure, and found many larger, but all at or under 1.6mm on my winkeyless board. To be sure: it's not really a problem, just requires a touch more focus.
No problem at all with my W (Worldwide) versions of PCBs. No that report yet. ;)
It seems Your PCB from winkeyless.kr is a bad batch. As you know it should Not covered by soldermask, according to PCB production process.
Thanks for the info! ;)
Post by: Grrizz on Wed, 13 May 2015, 21:05:16
Edit: After digging a bit more it looks like the PCB pins on the Gaterons have a ~1.5mm core with three ~0.15mm "wings", the hole specs are 1.7-0.05mm (Cherry) 1.7+/-0.05mm (Gateron) which would suggest the Gaterons "wings" are in fact designed to be press fit onto the PCB being the pins have a maximum cross-section of 1.65mm and a interference circumference of 1.8mm requiring a 0.025-0.075mm compression on the wings. I don't have any PCB mount Cherrys to compare.
Measuring a few cherry switches I got readings between 1.6 and 1.7mm as I moved around the pin (due to the aforementioned "wings" to create the interference fit). I get exactly the same results with a handful of Gaterons using the same method. So the diameter wouldn't have an effect. But I don't have fine enough equipment to measure the width and length of the "wings" which could create more or less interference.
Interestingly, the drill holes for the pins on the RSIII measure right around 1.7mm... right on spec. The winkeyless.kr holes measure all around 1.52mm... which is out of spec regardless of switch.
So what I think (think...) is going on is that the designers are placing a 1.7mm drill hole, and then the fancy soldermask that is used is closing up the hole a little bit.
Based on what I can measure, it's not the switches, it's the PCBs that are out of spec.
It sounds like the Cherry and Gateron pins are much the same then. The way I got the wing size was to measure the width of the core of the pin (1.5mm) with the tips of the callipers slightly overhanging the half way mark so as to prevent them resting on any of the wings then measure from the edge of a wing to the opposite side of the core of the pin (1.65mm) and subtract one measurement from the other to get the wing alone (0.15mm), the interference circumference is then the core + 2 times the wings (1.5 + 2 x 0.15 = 1.8mm). Running the callipers around the pin would mean you are always in contact with at least one wing so measurements of 1.6-1.7mm would be pretty much the same as the Gaterons.
With the holes being so far out of spec on the Winkeyless PCB its interesting no-ones had fitting problems with the Cherrys. Then again from what I've seen most people seem to have plate mount Cherrys, a lot of custom builds use clones and if it only affects a portion of the boards it might have been an issue but it just wasn't talked about due to it being such a small portion of the market (*speculation*).
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 13 May 2015, 21:24:38
Here's the numbers:
- Right Leg:
- Average: 1.61633...mm
- Min & Max: 1.56mm, 1.68mm
- Left Leg:
- Average: 1.638mm
- Min & Max: 1.57mm, 1.70mm
- Total Average: 1.6271mm
There's a fair degree of variation in the leg sizes and I get the feeling that some of the legs may actually be wider at points due to the three offshoots I identified earlier, but it's difficult to properly and accurately measure. When I was twisting the calipers around, they were getting diameters larger than 1.75mm at times, but I couldn't tell if it was due to torsion or something else. That and I was afraid it might bite into the stem and give inaccurate readings, so I stuck with spot measures.
Post by: Spopepro on Wed, 13 May 2015, 22:52:26
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 14 May 2015, 04:20:31
Alright, since the plural of anecdote is data, and data only becomes relevant at an n of 30, I took measurement of 60 legs, 15 Black right legs, 15 Black left legs, 15 Clear right legs, 15 Clear left legs.Thanks a lot for the measurements! Can you compare them to Cherry PCB switches?
Here's the numbers:
- Right Leg:
- Average: 1.61633...mm
- Min & Max: 1.56mm, 1.68mm
- Left Leg:
- Average: 1.638mm
- Min & Max: 1.57mm, 1.70mm
- Total Average: 1.6271mm
There's a fair degree of variation in the leg sizes and I get the feeling that some of the legs may actually be wider at points due to the three offshoots I identified earlier, but it's difficult to properly and accurately measure. When I was twisting the calipers around, they were getting diameters larger than 1.75mm at times, but I couldn't tell if it was due to torsion or something else. That and I was afraid it might bite into the stem and give inaccurate readings, so I stuck with spot measures.
Post by: okwchin on Thu, 14 May 2015, 06:22:49
Its mostly un-plated copper, with the tiniest hint of gold on the bit that matters.
I would say that for as long as the gold doesn't wear off, it should be fine.
Here are some iPhone photos :) (clickable thumbnails to enjoy 100% crops of high ISO photos)
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Post by: ROFLmonstar on Thu, 14 May 2015, 10:14:49
Thanks for running this GB and great work Shadovved and hwood34!
Post by: swill on Thu, 14 May 2015, 11:36:05
Just got my switches from the post office.
Its mostly un-plated copper, with the tiniest hint of gold on the bit that matters.
I would say that for as long as the gold doesn't wear off, it should be fine.
Here are some iPhone photos :) (clickable thumbnails to enjoy 100% crops of high ISO photos)
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Thanks for the pic. That is a great shot to show that there is some gold on the contacts. Thx...
Post by: Art of Payce on Thu, 14 May 2015, 18:52:27
Post by: daviswalkers on Fri, 15 May 2015, 02:08:17
so here is what i did with mine my first custom built keyboard sadly the caps i ordered ive been waiting on for 3 month but ive seen people wait longer, currently typing on the switches atm lol. for some reason the shift key isn't capitalizing even though in the keymapper it registers the shift key keypresses so if anyone has any insight on that please let me know (edit I figured it out I was on the Fn layer when I mapped shift!), also as im sure you can tell by the picture the leds are pretty dim compared to the lock key leds and i can seem to figure that out as well as why a few key's lights dont work at all as they're soldered in well and correctly also they worked when tested in other locations and the caps lock led worked before i mapped it to be control instead ... either way here's the picture in all of its potato gloryShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/0fdzFdI.jpg)
Solder on the LEDs the other way around for the bottom mods. If you look closely on the PCB, the polarity is facing a he other way (this is due to wkl support). Not too sure about your esc key, perhaps check polarity on that as well?
Thanks sorry for the late reply for some reason tapatalk never notified me of this reply got everything working now, just waiting on caps and it's complete!
Post by: greath on Fri, 15 May 2015, 22:57:20
Post by: sprit on Fri, 15 May 2015, 23:31:55
Just installed my blacks with 62g gold springs from sprit. No catching. Smooth as hell. Almost oddly smooth. It feels weird... verging on mushy. I think I might need to try a different spring weight.
Any pings or squeaks? added lube? Do You mean feel like Zero-gravitational?
I guess almost No lube will be OK ;)
My 55g will remind of Topre 45g, IMO.
Post by: greath on Fri, 15 May 2015, 23:42:03
A couple squeeks that I'm sure I can fix with lube, but that's not what is weird.
I was using mx reds and bottoming out. These Gateron switches are a lot smoother. Combined with your springs, I'm no longer bottoming out easily, so my fingers are confused to if I have activated the switch or not. My fingers are weirded out but a lack of any type of tactile feedback... scratchiness, bottoming out, etc. It's making it feel mushy for lack of a better word. I think I'm going to need 60g springs :P
I will have to try them for a couple more days before I decide anything.
Thank you for the concern.
Post by: sprit on Fri, 15 May 2015, 23:48:49
As you know, springs have cutting directions at both ends. It affects it's movement, afaic
Gateron may feel frictionless compare to current Reds or Blacks, thou Not as much as the good Vintage Blacks.
If you are a MX Red user, my 55g (actuation 45g) is a counterpart ;)
Post by: mic) on Sat, 16 May 2015, 06:27:45
With the DSA keycaps from Signature Plastics I have absolutely no problem with sticking keys.
The clear switches feel very smooth and I really like the low actuation force, though I yet have to feel them in real typing action.
What's perfect for me is that these Gateron switches fit perfectly in the Falbatech ErgoDox PCB. One has to firmly press them into the PCB but then they sit very tight. This is great because I want a simple version of the ErgoDox without a mounting plate and without a case and the switches seem perfect for that.
For comparison I only have a couple of plate-mount Cherry MX switches (since the PCB-mount MX switches are like impossible to source) and the two plastic legs make a huge difference! Much more stable and it's impossible to slightly twist the switch before soldering, so the mounting position is very precise.
For me that's great because I didn't want to go through the hassle with a mounting plate and with the two plastic legs it feels very sturdy, also since the PCBs are quite stiff.
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Sat, 16 May 2015, 09:14:24
Post by: RavenII on Sat, 16 May 2015, 10:32:00
Some Squeaks may fixed with re-positioning of springs,
As you know, springs have directions at both ends. It affects it's movement, afaic
Gateron may feel frictionless compare to current Reds or Blacks, thou Not as much as the good Vintage Blacks.
If you are a MX Red user, my 55g (actuation 45g) is a counterpart ;)
So 55g springs are better? I'm thinking about swapping my Gateron Black springs to something a slight bit lighter....but I want a little heavier than MX Reds....
Post by: awhitedev on Sat, 16 May 2015, 11:04:12
Some Squeaks may fixed with re-positioning of springs,
As you know, springs have directions at both ends. It affects it's movement, afaic
Gateron may feel frictionless compare to current Reds or Blacks, thou Not as much as the good Vintage Blacks.
If you are a MX Red user, my 55g (actuation 45g) is a counterpart ;)
So 55g springs are better? I'm thinking about swapping my Gateron Black springs to something a slight bit lighter....but I want a little heavier than MX Reds....
I've tried a few different springs in my Gateron Blacks and I keep going back to the stock springs. They're really nice springs... not too heavy, not too light... and they have a nice cushiony bottom-out.
Post by: sprit on Sat, 16 May 2015, 11:45:51
A bit heavier than MX reds will be my 60g (actuation 50g)Some Squeaks may fixed with re-positioning of springs,
As you know, springs have directions at both ends. It affects it's movement, afaic
Gateron may feel frictionless compare to current Reds or Blacks, thou Not as much as the good Vintage Blacks.
If you are a MX Red user, my 55g (actuation 45g) is a counterpart ;)
So 55g springs are better? I'm thinking about swapping my Gateron Black springs to something a slight bit lighter....but I want a little heavier than MX Reds....
My 55g (actuation 45g) is similar to MX Reds, with more stability and quick responces.
Stock Gateron springs are nice, but a bit narrow choices in my opinion :)
Post by: RavenII on Sat, 16 May 2015, 12:08:05
A bit heavier than MX reds will be my 60g (actuation 50g)Some Squeaks may fixed with re-positioning of springs,
As you know, springs have directions at both ends. It affects it's movement, afaic
Gateron may feel frictionless compare to current Reds or Blacks, thou Not as much as the good Vintage Blacks.
If you are a MX Red user, my 55g (actuation 45g) is a counterpart ;)
So 55g springs are better? I'm thinking about swapping my Gateron Black springs to something a slight bit lighter....but I want a little heavier than MX Reds....
My 55g (actuation 45g) is similar to MX Reds, with more stability and quick responces.
Stock Gateron springs are nice, but a bit narrow choices in my opinion :)
Gotcha.
Post by: rsac on Sat, 16 May 2015, 16:12:26
The switches seems to feel exactly as I hopped, especially the browns. Well, the blacks might be a bit heavier than I like (luckily only bought a few to sample), but I still have to test it in an actual keyboard.
Thank you Shadovved! Looking forward for other group buys organized by you with cheap keyboard parts. :D
Post by: Glod on Sat, 16 May 2015, 16:50:40
kind of want to try out the brown switches now, maybe if massdrop does another drop...
Post by: cupr on Sun, 17 May 2015, 06:08:13
But now.. who can give an advice how to mix cherry browns and gateron clears?
Post by: Findecanor on Sun, 17 May 2015, 17:55:06
The unmodified Gateron Brown is more tactile than the vintage MX brown but the vintage MX switch is smoother.
However, when I had swapped just the sliders then both switches felt about equal in both tactility and smoothness.
I also tested swapping the brass parts: the leaf spring and "stationary contact" that have the "gold cross point".
I found that Cherry's brass parts do fit inside the Gateron housing, but not the opposite: Gateron's "stationary contact" part is apparently too thick to fit into the slot at the bottom of the Cherry MX housing.
Post by: ideus on Sun, 17 May 2015, 20:30:04
I opened up a vintage Cherry MX Brown and a Gateron brown and tested interchanging parts.
The unmodified Gateron Brown is more tactile than the vintage MX brown but the vintage MX switch is smoother.
However, when I had swapped just the sliders then both switches felt about equal in both tactility and smoothness.
I also tested swapping the brass parts: the leaf spring and "stationary contact" that have the "gold cross point".
I found that Cherry's brass parts do fit inside the Gateron housing, but not the opposite: Gateron's "stationary contact" part is apparently too thick to fit into the slot at the bottom of the Cherry MX housing.
Interesting report.
Post by: mecano on Mon, 18 May 2015, 06:06:31
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Post by: greath on Mon, 18 May 2015, 06:16:54
Post by: MrRooks on Mon, 18 May 2015, 08:23:52
So what's the group consensus on the gateron browns compared to cherry browns/clears?
I doubt this is specific to browns but I have gateron browns in my most recent build and OG Dolch caps catch on the switch tops. Trying to look through this thread for a solution.
Post by: greath on Mon, 18 May 2015, 09:11:17
So what's the group consensus on the gateron browns compared to cherry browns/clears?
I doubt this is specific to browns but I have gateron browns in my most recent build and OG Dolch caps catch on the switch tops. Trying to look through this thread for a solution.
Check this thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.msg1696546#msg1696546
Beyond the catch, what do you think of the switch?
Post by: MrRooks on Mon, 18 May 2015, 09:21:14
So what's the group consensus on the gateron browns compared to cherry browns/clears?
I doubt this is specific to browns but I have gateron browns in my most recent build and OG Dolch caps catch on the switch tops. Trying to look through this thread for a solution.
Check this thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.msg1696546#msg1696546
Beyond the catch, what do you think of the switch?
Thanks! That looks good, unfortunately I thin that means I need to pull my whole keyboard apart to fix it which sucks as I also put LEDs in it >_>
When I use caps that don't catch they feel great! I prefer them to my cherry browns, they are also lubed with Krytox GPL103.
Post by: greath on Mon, 18 May 2015, 09:26:25
When I use caps that don't catch they feel great! I prefer them to my cherry browns, they are also lubed with Krytox GPL103.
Because of smoothness, impact of tactility, or other?
Are you using the stock springs?
Post by: MrRooks on Mon, 18 May 2015, 09:41:02
When I use caps that don't catch they feel great! I prefer them to my cherry browns, they are also lubed with Krytox GPL103.
Because of smoothness, impact of tactility, or other?
Are you using the stock springs?
Stock springs, I like them because of the smoothness. Tactility feels similar to me, other than it being smoother on the Gaterons. That said they are pretty close and blind folded at normal typing speed I'm not sure I'd be able to tell the difference.
*edit*
I took apart some of my extra Gaterons and none of them have the lip in the thread that was linked. Hmm
Another edit... I tried filing the bottom edge of a keycap on the ones that catch and it fixes the issue. That might be my solution, just a pain to file down 82 keycaps. Doing a side by side I can see the switch tops from Cherry have a TINY gap on the switch top, between the stem. Seems that allows caps to not catch. Filing that edge of thick cap stems makes it go away.
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 18 May 2015, 10:54:06
When I use caps that don't catch they feel great! I prefer them to my cherry browns, they are also lubed with Krytox GPL103.
Because of smoothness, impact of tactility, or other?
Are you using the stock springs?
Stock springs, I like them because of the smoothness. Tactility feels similar to me, other than it being smoother on the Gaterons. That said they are pretty close and blind folded at normal typing speed I'm not sure I'd be able to tell the difference.
*edit*
I took apart some of my extra Gaterons and none of them have the lip in the thread that was linked. Hmm
Another edit... I tried filing the bottom edge of a keycap on the ones that catch and it fixes the issue. That might be my solution, just a pain to file down 82 keycaps. Doing a side by side I can see the switch tops from Cherry have a TINY gap on the switch top, between the stem. Seems that allows caps to not catch. Filing that edge of thick stems makes it go away.
What do you fill it with?
Post by: MrRooks on Mon, 18 May 2015, 14:31:24
When I use caps that don't catch they feel great! I prefer them to my cherry browns, they are also lubed with Krytox GPL103.
Because of smoothness, impact of tactility, or other?
Are you using the stock springs?
Stock springs, I like them because of the smoothness. Tactility feels similar to me, other than it being smoother on the Gaterons. That said they are pretty close and blind folded at normal typing speed I'm not sure I'd be able to tell the difference.
*edit*
I took apart some of my extra Gaterons and none of them have the lip in the thread that was linked. Hmm
Another edit... I tried filing the bottom edge of a keycap on the ones that catch and it fixes the issue. That might be my solution, just a pain to file down 82 keycaps. Doing a side by side I can see the switch tops from Cherry have a TINY gap on the switch top, between the stem. Seems that allows caps to not catch. Filing that edge of thick stems makes it go away.
What do you fill it with?
filed not filled. ;)
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 18 May 2015, 15:09:25
When I use caps that don't catch they feel great! I prefer them to my cherry browns, they are also lubed with Krytox GPL103.
Because of smoothness, impact of tactility, or other?
Are you using the stock springs?
Stock springs, I like them because of the smoothness. Tactility feels similar to me, other than it being smoother on the Gaterons. That said they are pretty close and blind folded at normal typing speed I'm not sure I'd be able to tell the difference.
*edit*
I took apart some of my extra Gaterons and none of them have the lip in the thread that was linked. Hmm
Another edit... I tried filing the bottom edge of a keycap on the ones that catch and it fixes the issue. That might be my solution, just a pain to file down 82 keycaps. Doing a side by side I can see the switch tops from Cherry have a TINY gap on the switch top, between the stem. Seems that allows caps to not catch. Filing that edge of thick stems makes it go away.
What do you fill it with?
filed not filled. ;)
Ohh fair enough. I feel dumb on this one ... Thanks for the clarification.
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 19 May 2015, 08:43:12
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 19 May 2015, 08:47:25
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 19 May 2015, 08:56:00
Thanks to everyone for making this such a hugely successful GB! Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly and have most everyone satisfied with the product. Certainly is strange that Gateron appeared to slightly adjust the mold or something of the like in the middle of the order, but hopefully after seeing how many people are interested they'll make themselves more accessible to international and non-commercial buyers. Maybe even a round 2 is in order...
That's thanks to Shadovved's and your hardwork that the GB went smoothly. We are the one that should be thanking you! :)
Post by: RavenII on Tue, 19 May 2015, 10:38:20
Thanks to everyone for making this such a hugely successful GB! Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly and have most everyone satisfied with the product. Certainly is strange that Gateron appeared to slightly adjust the mold or something of the like in the middle of the order, but hopefully after seeing how many people are interested they'll make themselves more accessible to international and non-commercial buyers. Maybe even a round 2 is in order...
I'm definitely happy with mine, thanks for all of your guys' hard work.
On another note, I don't think there's anything wrong with their mold...well, I guess the argument could be made that there is since this "issue" doesn't exist with Cherry MX...but I think that Gaterons are actually made with tighter clearances...they definitely feel like they're put together tighter....less wiggling, etc.
Also, it seems that only the ABS Doubleshots that I have cause this issue...and it seems to only be the zxcvbnm,./ keys...so it might be something with that also. Either way, use decent keycaps, be happy.
Post by: greath on Tue, 19 May 2015, 10:45:46
Post by: mecano on Wed, 20 May 2015, 13:16:31
Post by: ideus on Wed, 20 May 2015, 13:52:01
Post by: mecano on Wed, 20 May 2015, 13:54:27
Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Sorry to sound like that but that must be a kind of a joke isn't it?
First you made numerous errors on invoice quantities. Ok can happen. You can still call it smooth.
Then I had issued a secondary payment (I did as gift to ease things for you) because of shipment fee error on your side. A little hicup, call it smooth still.
Then again a mistake on your side on the city address and I had to wait for the switches to go back to Shadovved, ok maybe Shadovved could have proposed to send anyway a second batch if possible as the error was clearly on your side. But ok I am a patient boy, I wait.
Now the switches are said as delivered back to Singapore and I have no news except this "Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly", now I'm starting to wonder what kind of smoothness you are talking about…
Post by: JonasDK on Wed, 20 May 2015, 14:58:43
Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Sorry to sound like that but that must be a kind of a joke isn't it?
First you made numerous errors on invoice quantities. Ok can happen. You can still call it smooth.
Then I had issued a secondary payment (I did as gift to ease things for you) because of shipment fee error on your side. A little hicup, call it smooth still.
Then again a mistake on your side on the city address and I had to wait for the switches to go back to Shadovved, ok maybe Shadovved could have proposed to send anyway a second batch if possible as the error was clearly on your side. But ok I am a patient boy, I wait.
Now the switches are said as delivered back to Singapore and I have no news except this "Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly", now I'm starting to wonder what kind of smoothness you are talking about…
When a GB with over a hundred thousand switches is finished within a few months that is pretty impressive if not record breaking. I received my order one month and eight days after invoices were due, which is quite incredible as I think all of our orders were hand sorted(?). To put this in perspective the GH60 GB is still running even though invoices were paid over two years ago.
Post by: mecano on Wed, 20 May 2015, 15:16:35
Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Sorry to sound like that but that must be a kind of a joke isn't it?
First you made numerous errors on invoice quantities. Ok can happen. You can still call it smooth.
Then I had issued a secondary payment (I did as gift to ease things for you) because of shipment fee error on your side. A little hicup, call it smooth still.
Then again a mistake on your side on the city address and I had to wait for the switches to go back to Shadovved, ok maybe Shadovved could have proposed to send anyway a second batch if possible as the error was clearly on your side. But ok I am a patient boy, I wait.
Now the switches are said as delivered back to Singapore and I have no news except this "Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly", now I'm starting to wonder what kind of smoothness you are talking about…
When a GB with over a hundred thousand switches is finished within a few months that is pretty impressive if not record breaking. I received my order one month and eight days after invoices were due, which is quite incredible as I think all of our orders were hand sorted(?). To put this in perspective the GH60 GB is still running even though invoices were paid over two years ago.
Sure, still everything has not gone so smoothly and is not closed, hwood is maybe feeling awesomeness and I'm happy for her but the rest is a pretty inconsistent report.
Post by: RavenII on Wed, 20 May 2015, 16:10:38
Not that everything and everyone is happy...
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 20 May 2015, 16:32:00
well he (not even sure where you got that assumption) probably feels as though everything has gone over smoothly considering that in 441 orders, a small handful (frankly I can only remember yours but there may be one or two more) have had a substantial problem like yours. In my book a 99.77% planned fulfillment constitutes a success.Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Sorry to sound like that but that must be a kind of a joke isn't it?
First you made numerous errors on invoice quantities. Ok can happen. You can still call it smooth.
Then I had issued a secondary payment (I did as gift to ease things for you) because of shipment fee error on your side. A little hicup, call it smooth still.
Then again a mistake on your side on the city address and I had to wait for the switches to go back to Shadovved, ok maybe Shadovved could have proposed to send anyway a second batch if possible as the error was clearly on your side. But ok I am a patient boy, I wait.
Now the switches are said as delivered back to Singapore and I have no news except this "Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly", now I'm starting to wonder what kind of smoothness you are talking about…
When a GB with over a hundred thousand switches is finished within a few months that is pretty impressive if not record breaking. I received my order one month and eight days after invoices were due, which is quite incredible as I think all of our orders were hand sorted(?). To put this in perspective the GH60 GB is still running even though invoices were paid over two years ago.
Sure, still everything has not gone so smoothly and is not closed, hwood is maybe feeling awesomeness and I'm happy for her but the rest is a pretty inconsistent report.
And like RavenII said, the "closed" status is to inform people that the buy is no longer taking orders or selling extras.
Post by: mecano on Wed, 20 May 2015, 17:28:46
well he (not even sure where you got that assumption) probably feels as though everything has gone over smoothly considering that in 441 orders, a small handful (frankly I can only remember yours but there may be one or two more) have had a substantial problem like yours. In my book a 99.77% planned fulfillment constitutes a success.Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Sorry to sound like that but that must be a kind of a joke isn't it?
First you made numerous errors on invoice quantities. Ok can happen. You can still call it smooth.
Then I had issued a secondary payment (I did as gift to ease things for you) because of shipment fee error on your side. A little hicup, call it smooth still.
Then again a mistake on your side on the city address and I had to wait for the switches to go back to Shadovved, ok maybe Shadovved could have proposed to send anyway a second batch if possible as the error was clearly on your side. But ok I am a patient boy, I wait.
Now the switches are said as delivered back to Singapore and I have no news except this "Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly", now I'm starting to wonder what kind of smoothness you are talking about…
When a GB with over a hundred thousand switches is finished within a few months that is pretty impressive if not record breaking. I received my order one month and eight days after invoices were due, which is quite incredible as I think all of our orders were hand sorted(?). To put this in perspective the GH60 GB is still running even though invoices were paid over two years ago.
Sure, still everything has not gone so smoothly and is not closed, hwood is maybe feeling awesomeness and I'm happy for her but the rest is a pretty inconsistent report.
And like RavenII said, the "closed" status is to inform people that the buy is no longer taking orders or selling extras.
Well I've been invoiced by and sent money to a she paypal account, don't you remember? I assumed it was you.
Now… Can't you just be normal and stop acting like a Monkey Island Stan? (Hey Stan, if a small handful had troubles and I'm .23% of 441 how do you get the 99,77%? Huh? Planned? You mean YOU PLANNED ALL THIS?)
Really not funny to read you and I'm not even sure what is the more sad,
- the fact you took the time to calculate the .23% I am representing in this sale and by this manner reducing me to a negligible quantity in your holy book of numbers and to the good people of this board;
- the fact that you are clearly spitting out this in public (not that I care much, but you should take more care or conscience on how you are showing to the board, especially if you are needing the rest of the board trust and respect which you clearly are for GB and such);
or
- the fact you are so full of self contentment and esteem that you doesn't stand behind your failures and need to hide behind fairy dust.
Your maths are wrong 99,77% doesn't make 100% btw.
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Wed, 20 May 2015, 17:35:31
Dude... Chill out.well he (not even sure where you got that assumption) probably feels as though everything has gone over smoothly considering that in 441 orders, a small handful (frankly I can only remember yours but there may be one or two more) have had a substantial problem like yours. In my book a 99.77% planned fulfillment constitutes a success.Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Sorry to sound like that but that must be a kind of a joke isn't it?
First you made numerous errors on invoice quantities. Ok can happen. You can still call it smooth.
Then I had issued a secondary payment (I did as gift to ease things for you) because of shipment fee error on your side. A little hicup, call it smooth still.
Then again a mistake on your side on the city address and I had to wait for the switches to go back to Shadovved, ok maybe Shadovved could have proposed to send anyway a second batch if possible as the error was clearly on your side. But ok I am a patient boy, I wait.
Now the switches are said as delivered back to Singapore and I have no news except this "Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly", now I'm starting to wonder what kind of smoothness you are talking about…
When a GB with over a hundred thousand switches is finished within a few months that is pretty impressive if not record breaking. I received my order one month and eight days after invoices were due, which is quite incredible as I think all of our orders were hand sorted(?). To put this in perspective the GH60 GB is still running even though invoices were paid over two years ago.
Sure, still everything has not gone so smoothly and is not closed, hwood is maybe feeling awesomeness and I'm happy for her but the rest is a pretty inconsistent report.
And like RavenII said, the "closed" status is to inform people that the buy is no longer taking orders or selling extras.
Well I've been invoiced by and sent money to a she paypal account, don't you remember? I assumed it was you.
Now… Can't you just be normal and stop acting like a Monkey Island Stan? (Hey Stan, if a small handful had troubles and I'm .23% of 441 how do you get the 99,77%? Huh? Planned? You mean YOU PLANNED ALL THIS?)
Really not funny to read you and I'm not even sure what is the more sad,
- the fact you took the time to calculate the .23% I am representing in this sale and by this manner reducing me to a negligible quantity in your holy book of numbers and to the good people of this board;
- the fact that you are clearly spitting out this in public (not that I care much, but you should take more care or conscience on how you are showing to the board, especially if you are needing the rest of the board trust and respect which you clearly are for GB and such);
or
- the fact you are so full of self contentment and esteem that you doesn't stand behind your failures and need to hide behind fairy dust.
Your maths are wrong 99,77% doesn't make 100% btw.
Post by: JonasDK on Wed, 20 May 2015, 17:39:18
wat(Hey Stan, if a small handful had troubles and I'm .23% of 441 how do you get the 99,77%?well he (not even sure where you got that assumption) probably feels as though everything has gone over smoothly considering that in 441 orders, a small handful (frankly I can only remember yours but there may be one or two more) have had a substantial problem like yours. In my book a 99.77% planned fulfillment constitutes a success.Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Sorry to sound like that but that must be a kind of a joke isn't it?
First you made numerous errors on invoice quantities. Ok can happen. You can still call it smooth.
Then I had issued a secondary payment (I did as gift to ease things for you) because of shipment fee error on your side. A little hicup, call it smooth still.
Then again a mistake on your side on the city address and I had to wait for the switches to go back to Shadovved, ok maybe Shadovved could have proposed to send anyway a second batch if possible as the error was clearly on your side. But ok I am a patient boy, I wait.
Now the switches are said as delivered back to Singapore and I have no news except this "Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly", now I'm starting to wonder what kind of smoothness you are talking about�
When a GB with over a hundred thousand switches is finished within a few months that is pretty impressive if not record breaking. I received my order one month and eight days after invoices were due, which is quite incredible as I think all of our orders were hand sorted(?). To put this in perspective the GH60 GB is still running even though invoices were paid over two years ago.
Sure, still everything has not gone so smoothly and is not closed, hwood is maybe feeling awesomeness and I'm happy for her but the rest is a pretty inconsistent report.
And like RavenII said, the "closed" status is to inform people that the buy is no longer taking orders or selling extras.
Your maths are wrong 99,77% doesn't make 100% btw.
100% - 0,23% = 99,77%, I really can't see the problem here.
And this is pretty much getting absurd.
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 20 May 2015, 17:40:13
fair enoughwell he (not even sure where you got that assumption) probably feels as though everything has gone over smoothly considering that in 441 orders, a small handful (frankly I can only remember yours but there may be one or two more) have had a substantial problem like yours. In my book a 99.77% planned fulfillment constitutes a success.Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Sorry to sound like that but that must be a kind of a joke isn't it?
First you made numerous errors on invoice quantities. Ok can happen. You can still call it smooth.
Then I had issued a secondary payment (I did as gift to ease things for you) because of shipment fee error on your side. A little hicup, call it smooth still.
Then again a mistake on your side on the city address and I had to wait for the switches to go back to Shadovved, ok maybe Shadovved could have proposed to send anyway a second batch if possible as the error was clearly on your side. But ok I am a patient boy, I wait.
Now the switches are said as delivered back to Singapore and I have no news except this "Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly", now I'm starting to wonder what kind of smoothness you are talking about…
When a GB with over a hundred thousand switches is finished within a few months that is pretty impressive if not record breaking. I received my order one month and eight days after invoices were due, which is quite incredible as I think all of our orders were hand sorted(?). To put this in perspective the GH60 GB is still running even though invoices were paid over two years ago.
Sure, still everything has not gone so smoothly and is not closed, hwood is maybe feeling awesomeness and I'm happy for her but the rest is a pretty inconsistent report.
And like RavenII said, the "closed" status is to inform people that the buy is no longer taking orders or selling extras.
Well I've been invoiced by and sent money to a she paypal account, don't you remember? I assumed it was you.
Now… Can't you just be normal and stop acting like a Monkey Island Stan? (Hey Stan, if a small handful had troubles and I'm .23% of 441 how do you get the 99,77%? Huh? Planned? You mean YOU PLANNED ALL THIS?)wut
Really not funny to read you and I'm not even sure what is the more sad,
- the fact you took the time to calculate the .23% I am representing in this sale and by this manner reducing me to a negligible quantity in your holy book of numbers and to the good people of this board;
I said that because it outlined the fact that such a small percentage of orders improperly handled constitutes a successful GB, not to reduce the magnitude of your problem.
- the fact that you are clearly spitting out this in public (not that I care much, but you should take more care or conscience on how you are showing to the board, especially if you are needing the rest of the board trust and respect which you clearly are for GB and such);I continued where you started :thumb:
- the fact you are so full of self contentment and esteem that you doesn't stand behind your failures and need to hide behind fairy dust.Yeah, I'm pretty content with me and Shadovved (especially Shadovved) being able to organize a buy in which nearly every single person was happy. Don't really understand the second part, I admitted that your order was incorrectly handled and stood behind numbers (which I guess is fairy dust now?)
Your maths are wrong 99,77% doesn't make 100% btw.+ 0.23% it does
Post by: mecano on Wed, 20 May 2015, 17:49:41
wat(Hey Stan, if a small handful had troubles and I'm .23% of 441 how do you get the 99,77%?well he (not even sure where you got that assumption) probably feels as though everything has gone over smoothly considering that in 441 orders, a small handful (frankly I can only remember yours but there may be one or two more) have had a substantial problem like yours. In my book a 99.77% planned fulfillment constitutes a success.Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Sorry to sound like that but that must be a kind of a joke isn't it?
First you made numerous errors on invoice quantities. Ok can happen. You can still call it smooth.
Then I had issued a secondary payment (I did as gift to ease things for you) because of shipment fee error on your side. A little hicup, call it smooth still.
Then again a mistake on your side on the city address and I had to wait for the switches to go back to Shadovved, ok maybe Shadovved could have proposed to send anyway a second batch if possible as the error was clearly on your side. But ok I am a patient boy, I wait.
Now the switches are said as delivered back to Singapore and I have no news except this "Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly", now I'm starting to wonder what kind of smoothness you are talking about�
When a GB with over a hundred thousand switches is finished within a few months that is pretty impressive if not record breaking. I received my order one month and eight days after invoices were due, which is quite incredible as I think all of our orders were hand sorted(?). To put this in perspective the GH60 GB is still running even though invoices were paid over two years ago.
Sure, still everything has not gone so smoothly and is not closed, hwood is maybe feeling awesomeness and I'm happy for her but the rest is a pretty inconsistent report.
And like RavenII said, the "closed" status is to inform people that the buy is no longer taking orders or selling extras.
Your maths are wrong 99,77% doesn't make 100% btw.
100% - 0,23% = 99,77%, I really can't see the problem here.
And this is pretty much getting absurd.
He said an handfull… so an handfull can't be only one person is it? Or is he saying nothing and anything?
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 20 May 2015, 17:52:28
Do you need you switches quickly for a build?
If yes and it's gateron blacks, I wouldn't mind sending you some of mine since you're in France too.
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 20 May 2015, 17:56:49
I calculated for the only order I could think of but conceded that there might possibly be morewat(Hey Stan, if a small handful had troubles and I'm .23% of 441 how do you get the 99,77%?well he (not even sure where you got that assumption) probably feels as though everything has gone over smoothly considering that in 441 orders, a small handful (frankly I can only remember yours but there may be one or two more) have had a substantial problem like yours. In my book a 99.77% planned fulfillment constitutes a success.Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Sorry to sound like that but that must be a kind of a joke isn't it?
First you made numerous errors on invoice quantities. Ok can happen. You can still call it smooth.
Then I had issued a secondary payment (I did as gift to ease things for you) because of shipment fee error on your side. A little hicup, call it smooth still.
Then again a mistake on your side on the city address and I had to wait for the switches to go back to Shadovved, ok maybe Shadovved could have proposed to send anyway a second batch if possible as the error was clearly on your side. But ok I am a patient boy, I wait.
Now the switches are said as delivered back to Singapore and I have no news except this "Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly", now I'm starting to wonder what kind of smoothness you are talking about�
When a GB with over a hundred thousand switches is finished within a few months that is pretty impressive if not record breaking. I received my order one month and eight days after invoices were due, which is quite incredible as I think all of our orders were hand sorted(?). To put this in perspective the GH60 GB is still running even though invoices were paid over two years ago.
Sure, still everything has not gone so smoothly and is not closed, hwood is maybe feeling awesomeness and I'm happy for her but the rest is a pretty inconsistent report.
And like RavenII said, the "closed" status is to inform people that the buy is no longer taking orders or selling extras.
Your maths are wrong 99,77% doesn't make 100% btw.
100% - 0,23% = 99,77%, I really can't see the problem here.
And this is pretty much getting absurd.
He said an handfull… so an handfull can't be only one person is it? Or is he saying nothing and anything?
Post by: mecano on Wed, 20 May 2015, 18:34:51
ok so just in case you aren't actually trolling:Now… Can't you just be normal and stop acting like a Monkey Island Stan? (Hey Stan, if a small handful had troubles and I'm .23% of 441 how do you get the 99,77%? Huh? Planned? You mean YOU PLANNED ALL THIS?)wut
considering that in 441 orders, a small handful (frankly I can only remember yours but there may be one or two more) have had a substantial problem like yours. In my book a 99.77% planned fulfillment constitutes a success.
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Really not funny to read you and I'm not even sure what is the more sad,
- the fact you took the time to calculate the .23% I am representing in this sale and by this manner reducing me to a negligible quantity in your holy book of numbers and to the good people of this board;
I said that because it outlined the fact that such a small percentage of orders improperly handled constitutes a successful GB, not to reduce the magnitude of your problem.
Oh you weren't responding to me then. I thought you were.
I didn't talk about the success of the GB, I didn't even quote it.
If it makes you comfy with your mistakes, be my guest.- the fact that you are clearly spitting out this in public (not that I care much, but you should take more care or conscience on how you are showing to the board, especially if you are needing the rest of the board trust and respect which you clearly are for GB and such);I continued where you started :thumb:
I can't help you much on this one, I guess pretty everyone will nod on this one. You are not saying anymore things like 'everything' or 'everyone' now… Thank you for that ;D- the fact you are so full of self contentment and esteem that you doesn't stand behind your failures and need to hide behind fairy dust.Yeah, I'm pretty content with me and Shadovved (especially Shadovved) being able to organize a buy in which nearly every single person was happy. Don't really understand the second part, I admitted that your order was incorrectly handled and stood behind numbers (which I guess is fairy dust now?)
You mean me? Well it doesn't then or do you have as well definitions of smoothness and everything that involve quantic maths?Your maths are wrong 99,77% doesn't make 100% btw.+ 0.23% it does
Now can you please put back *SHIPPING* on the thread title? :D
Can we calm down here, problems happen in all group buy, you were unlucky mecano.
Do you need you switches quickly for a build?
If yes and it's gateron blacks, I wouldn't mind sending you some of mine since you're in France too.
Thank you for your offer azhdar.
That's very kind of you but quickly or not that's not the point.
I still miss a 29,2x8,3cm case anyway and didn't finalized the plate screw locations.
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 20 May 2015, 20:31:13
Post by: RavenII on Wed, 20 May 2015, 21:06:49
Post by: ideus on Wed, 20 May 2015, 21:24:23
These switches are great. I just regret I did not get more.
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 20 May 2015, 21:32:31
Holy ****...is that how I sounded...?eh, your complaints were mostly valid and were backed up with some semblance of logic
Post by: Grrizz on Wed, 20 May 2015, 22:07:59
Drama aside, my Gaterons are working great on my GON keyboard, no issues with stocked caps, I am using my Granite key set with no issues at all, and when I installed the switches on the PCB I had no problems at all, either.
These switches are great. I just regret I did not get more.
Same regret here, I bit the bullet and paid a little more from some Massdrop ones in the end :)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 20 May 2015, 22:18:01
Drama aside, my Gaterons are working great on my GON keyboard, no issues with stocked caps, I am using my Granite key set with no issues at all, and when I installed the switches on the PCB I had no problems at all, either.
These switches are great. I just regret I did not get more.
Same regret here, I bit the bullet and paid a little more from some Massdrop ones in the end :)
It is not that bad; but, this deal was even better than MD's though.
I am typing on my own personal mix of Gatorades: Blues for alphas and blacks for the modifiers, and my GON rocks with them.
Post by: Evo_Spec on Wed, 20 May 2015, 23:19:54
i really don't need these but everyone is talking so great about them and want to try these out, i can also trade for MX blues that i had to fix up so they're not entirely consistent but do all click.
Post by: mecano on Thu, 21 May 2015, 02:50:46
Holy ****...is that how I sounded...?
Do you have a link? I'll be glad to help there ;D
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 23 May 2015, 15:48:31
Post by: ideus on Sat, 23 May 2015, 16:30:31
Post by: RavenII on Sat, 23 May 2015, 18:48:56
I am typing with Gaterons with Cherry ABS DS caps and there is no any issue with stuck key caps. Either, people who reported the issue got some actually faulty switches, or it was a group thinking issue.
I don't know what a group thinking issue is, but I can guarantee that it's not the switches being faulty. Maybe different tolerances, but that's different from being faulty. I think if nothing else...in my case anyhow, it's the keycaps that are made like ****.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 23 May 2015, 19:08:56
I am typing with Gaterons with Cherry ABS DS caps and there is no any issue with stuck key caps. Either, people who reported the issue got some actually faulty switches, or it was a group thinking issue.
I don't know what a group thinking issue is, but I can guarantee that it's not the switches being faulty. Maybe different tolerances, but that's different from being faulty. I think if nothing else...in my case anyhow, it's the keycaps that are made like ****.
By group-thinking I meant that some individuals were biased by the issues reported by others, instead of testing their switches candidly.
Post by: Vintage on Sat, 23 May 2015, 19:12:21
Should have got some gateron blues :p oh well... next time.
Post by: Jason_IRL on Sun, 24 May 2015, 00:11:54
I am typing with Gaterons with Cherry ABS DS caps and there is no any issue with stuck key caps. Either, people who reported the issue got some actually faulty switches, or it was a group thinking issue.
I don't know what a group thinking issue is, but I can guarantee that it's not the switches being faulty. Maybe different tolerances, but that's different from being faulty. I think if nothing else...in my case anyhow, it's the keycaps that are made like ****.
By group-thinking I meant that some individuals were biased by the issues reported by others, instead of testing their switches candidly.
I feel like there are a lot of people looking for reasons not to love the gateron switches. Simply because they are so much cheaper than cherry switches, how could they possibly be the same quality. It's like when you buy the 50 cent Mac and cheese at Aldi and tell yourself it's totally different and not as good as the $1 box of Kraft dinner. It's the same thing. I think these switches are fantastic.
Post by: BakaPhoenix on Tue, 26 May 2015, 15:49:49
Post by: ideus on Tue, 26 May 2015, 16:06:41
Post by: Ngt on Wed, 27 May 2015, 08:21:23
Just for the record, I tested the Gaterons with a set of vintage Cherry caps and they work flawlessly. Again, I think there is no issues at all with them.
Perhaps like some said, it could be a matter of batch.
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 27 May 2015, 08:36:49
Just for the record, I tested the Gaterons with a set of vintage Cherry caps and they work flawlessly. Again, I think there is no issues at all with them.
Perhaps like some said, it could be a matter of batch.
That's what I'm thinking. Like I said not all of mine (about half) have the catching issue, and it doesn't make them useless.
I will just make sure that I use Imsto caps with them if the catching is that big of a problem while typing.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 27 May 2015, 08:41:38
Just for the record, I tested the Gaterons with a set of vintage Cherry caps and they work flawlessly. Again, I think there is no issues at all with them.
Perhaps like some said, it could be a matter of batch.
That's what I'm thinking. Like I said not all of mine (about half) have the catching issue, and it doesn't make them useless.
I will just make sure that I use Imsto caps with them if the catching is that big of a problem while typing.
It may be a particular production lot the one that presented the issue, of course. I just wanted to add the data to the thread to expand the information on these nice switches, that are a competitive option to Cherry. Also, I want to add that no one presented corrosion as reported previously by someone else.
Post by: greath on Wed, 27 May 2015, 08:45:42
I know it makes little sense, but figured I would add my experience.
Post by: RavenII on Wed, 27 May 2015, 11:49:08
Just for the record, I tested the Gaterons with a set of vintage Cherry caps and they work flawlessly. Again, I think there is no issues at all with them.
Perhaps like some said, it could be a matter of batch.
That's what I'm thinking. Like I said not all of mine (about half) have the catching issue, and it doesn't make them useless.
I will just make sure that I use Imsto caps with them if the catching is that big of a problem while typing.
If you take the keycap that's causing the issue, and swap it with a switch that's not...does the issue follow the keycap or stay with the switch?
Like I showed in this video I posted...
Post by: sprit on Wed, 27 May 2015, 23:17:41
Just for the record, I tested the Gaterons with a set of vintage Cherry caps and they work flawlessly. Again, I think there is no issues at all with them.
Perhaps like some said, it could be a matter of batch.
That's what I'm thinking. Like I said not all of mine (about half) have the catching issue, and it doesn't make them useless.
I will just make sure that I use Imsto caps with them if the catching is that big of a problem while typing.
If you take the keycap that's causing the issue, and swap it with a switch that's not...does the issue follow the keycap or stay with the switch?
Like I showed in this video I posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Gsf38Veoo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Gsf38Veoo)
If some do catching, some don't, It seems Quality Control issues at Gateron production line. :(
GMK caps = Cherry Original caps
Gateron = Not 100% Cherry compatible? or, just a Design or Production error?
Gateron on Alibaba http://shop1396630507718.1688.com (http://shop1396630507718.1688.com)
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Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 09 June 2015, 18:07:21
Post by: RavenII on Tue, 09 June 2015, 23:05:14
im buying extras now if anyone has em
I got 110...forrr...$109.99
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 09 June 2015, 23:18:20
see you joke but...im buying extras now if anyone has em
I got 110...forrr...$109.99
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Post by: RavenII on Tue, 09 June 2015, 23:22:42
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 09 June 2015, 23:23:17
Holy ****!...I was totally just kidding...I'll hit you up if I plan on selling some of my blacks...ty :thumb:
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 09 June 2015, 23:26:13
That's 525% markup compared to this this GB! Yikes....see you joke but...im buying extras now if anyone has em
I got 110...forrr...$109.99Show Image(http://i.gyazo.com/5059b28d750a48a3b62bb229a7db9a10.png)
A Massdrop deal just ended yesterday or so.
Post by: Ngt on Wed, 10 June 2015, 09:52:02
see you joke but...im buying extras now if anyone has em
I got 110...forrr...$109.99Show Image(http://i.gyazo.com/5059b28d750a48a3b62bb229a7db9a10.png)
Better not buy from MechanicalKeyboards Inc. The price is just so high.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 10 June 2015, 10:16:05
I am typing with Gaterons with Cherry ABS DS caps and there is no any issue with stuck key caps. Either, people who reported the issue got some actually faulty switches, or it was a group thinking issue.
I don't know what a group thinking issue is, but I can guarantee that it's not the switches being faulty. Maybe different tolerances, but that's different from being faulty. I think if nothing else...in my case anyhow, it's the keycaps that are made like ****.
By group-thinking I meant that some individuals were biased by the issues reported by others, instead of testing their switches candidly.
I feel like there are a lot of people looking for reasons not to love the gateron switches. Simply because they are so much cheaper than cherry switches, how could they possibly be the same quality. It's like when you buy the 50 cent Mac and cheese at Aldi and tell yourself it's totally different and not as good as the $1 box of Kraft dinner. It's the same thing. I think these switches are fantastic.
The Gateron switches are really awesome; unfortunately, they cost the same as the Cherry, now. Maybe, a new GB round would be as successful as the first one; or even more, now that people know how great they are.
Post by: mecano on Wed, 10 June 2015, 13:12:13
still no shipping from Shadovved despite repeated promises every week.
This nickname suits like a glove.
Shadovved, I'm pretty bored with your lame excuses, if you are missing labels use a ****ing pen dude.
Now that you had a good laugh, can you please refund me?
I would have taken apologies and excuses but all I got when I write is "Lol", "Sure", "what is your email already?" < for the fifth time and so on…
105 GBlack $16.80
shipping and handling $7.00
complementary fee for shipping and handling $9.00
TOTAL : $33.45
Congrats for the caps GB, looks like you had time for this. "LOL"
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 10 June 2015, 15:29:42
Thank you for your offer azhdar.
That's very kind of you but quickly or not that's not the point.
I still miss a 29,2x8,3cm case anyway and didn't finalized the plate screw locations.
So why are you in such a big rush then?
You're making a huge deal out of the fact that you'll be the last to receive your switches.
Either you want the switches quickly or you don't.
If you're really hung up on the semantics of the group buy being "finished"
then there's nothing anyone here can do to help you.
I'm not intentionally picking sides, but you're kicking and screaming in a otherwise calm GB thread.
Post by: mecano on Wed, 10 June 2015, 19:40:56
Thank you for your offer azhdar.
That's very kind of you but quickly or not that's not the point.
I still miss a 29,2x8,3cm case anyway and didn't finalized the plate screw locations.
So why are you in such a big rush then?
You're making a huge deal out of the fact that you'll be the last to receive your switches.
Either you want the switches quickly or you don't.
If you're really hung up on the semantics of the group buy being "finished"
then there's nothing anyone here can do to help you.
I'm not intentionally picking sides, but you're kicking and screaming in a otherwise calm GB thread.
Would you mind to consider that there is a problem here, that this thread is not your personal thread, that firing at ambulances is no better manners that the one you are trying to depict and that a more than reasonable amount of private messages have been exchanged before I had to report here to have my money back as it looks like I can dream about the switches *lol*
I appreciate the time you took to "analyze" *lol* the situation, dig a 3 weeks away post and make it sound like it was yesterday and the fact that you are not intentionally picking sides *lol* I bet you won't be the last and that'll be my last post to the pack.
I'll further report here progress for others to know what to expect when a problem arise, if needed.
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 10 June 2015, 22:06:28
Yes posting updates to the situation here publicly must be helping the situation a great dealThank you for your offer azhdar.
That's very kind of you but quickly or not that's not the point.
I still miss a 29,2x8,3cm case anyway and didn't finalized the plate screw locations.
So why are you in such a big rush then?
You're making a huge deal out of the fact that you'll be the last to receive your switches.
Either you want the switches quickly or you don't.
If you're really hung up on the semantics of the group buy being "finished"
then there's nothing anyone here can do to help you.
I'm not intentionally picking sides, but you're kicking and screaming in a otherwise calm GB thread.
Would you mind to consider that there is a problem here, that this thread is not your personal thread, that firing at ambulances is no better manners that the one you are trying to depict and that a more than reasonable amount of private messages have been exchanged before I had to report here to have my money back as it looks like I can dream about the switches *lol*
I appreciate the time you took to "analyze" *lol* the situation, dig a 3 weeks away post and make it sound like it was yesterday and the fact that you are not intentionally picking sides *lol* I bet you won't be the last and that'll be my last post to the pack.
I'll further report here progress for others to know what to expect when a problem arise, if needed.
*lol*
Post by: Shadovved on Wed, 10 June 2015, 22:40:54
Thank you for your offer azhdar.
That's very kind of you but quickly or not that's not the point.
I still miss a 29,2x8,3cm case anyway and didn't finalized the plate screw locations.
So why are you in such a big rush then?
You're making a huge deal out of the fact that you'll be the last to receive your switches.
Either you want the switches quickly or you don't.
If you're really hung up on the semantics of the group buy being "finished"
then there's nothing anyone here can do to help you.
I'm not intentionally picking sides, but you're kicking and screaming in a otherwise calm GB thread.
Would you mind to consider that there is a problem here, that this thread is not your personal thread, that firing at ambulances is no better manners that the one you are trying to depict and that a more than reasonable amount of private messages have been exchanged before I had to report here to have my money back as it looks like I can dream about the switches *lol*
I appreciate the time you took to "analyze" *lol* the situation, dig a 3 weeks away post and make it sound like it was yesterday and the fact that you are not intentionally picking sides *lol* I bet you won't be the last and that'll be my last post to the pack.
I'll further report here progress for others to know what to expect when a problem arise, if needed.
Yes, it was my fault for accidentally posting to a wrong address.
And yes, your package was sitting on my table when it was returned to me because I was consolidating shipping with other packages as well.
And yes again, I did promise you tracking number I forgot when until I had operation two weeks ago, and since then anyone who asked was told that I'll ship this Tuesday when the mailman is coming.
And I'm sorry again that I rescheduled the mailman to come today instead to accommodate my schedule, I am a selfish person.
In short, I am sorry my existence in this GB has cause you much pain. I am also sorry that I receive so many PMs that I need to be constantly reminded of your invoice number or PayPal email.
I will post your tracking number here when it's updated later today, and I will email it to you as well. Since you wanted transparency, if someone diverts your package using the tracking, please don't blame me.
And if you still want your refund, I'll send you your cash back tonight, have the switches for free on me. I don't need your money.
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 11 June 2015, 03:29:26
Thank you for your offer azhdar.
That's very kind of you but quickly or not that's not the point.
I still miss a 29,2x8,3cm case anyway and didn't finalized the plate screw locations.
So why are you in such a big rush then?
You're making a huge deal out of the fact that you'll be the last to receive your switches.
Either you want the switches quickly or you don't.
If you're really hung up on the semantics of the group buy being "finished"
then there's nothing anyone here can do to help you.
I'm not intentionally picking sides, but you're kicking and screaming in a otherwise calm GB thread.
Would you mind to consider that there is a problem here, that this thread is not your personal thread, that firing at ambulances is no better manners that the one you are trying to depict and that a more than reasonable amount of private messages have been exchanged before I had to report here to have my money back as it looks like I can dream about the switches *lol*
I appreciate the time you took to "analyze" *lol* the situation, dig a 3 weeks away post and make it sound like it was yesterday and the fact that you are not intentionally picking sides *lol* I bet you won't be the last and that'll be my last post to the pack.
I'll further report here progress for others to know what to expect when a problem arise, if needed.
Yes, it was my fault for accidentally posting to a wrong address.
And yes, your package was sitting on my table when it was returned to me because I was consolidating shipping with other packages as well.
And yes again, I did promise you tracking number I forgot when until I had operation two weeks ago, and since then anyone who asked was told that I'll ship this Tuesday when the mailman is coming.
And I'm sorry again that I rescheduled the mailman to come today instead to accommodate my schedule, I am a selfish person.
In short, I am sorry my existence in this GB has cause you much pain. I am also sorry that I receive so many PMs that I need to be constantly reminded of your invoice number or PayPal email.
I will post your tracking number here when it's updated later today, and I will email it to you as well. Since you wanted transparency, if someone diverts your package using the tracking, please don't blame me.
And if you still want your refund, I'll send you your cash back tonight, have the switches for free on me. I don't need your money.
Tracking for mecano: RYXXXXXX419SG
Post by: mecano on Thu, 11 June 2015, 03:37:20
Yes, it was my fault for accidentally posting to a wrong address.
And yes, your package was sitting on my table when it was returned to me because I was consolidating shipping with other packages as well.
And yes again, I did promise you tracking number I forgot when until I had operation two weeks ago, and since then anyone who asked was told that I'll ship this Tuesday when the mailman is coming.
And I'm sorry again that I rescheduled the mailman to come today instead to accommodate my schedule, I am a selfish person.
In short, I am sorry my existence in this GB has cause you much pain. I am also sorry that I receive so many PMs that I need to be constantly reminded of your invoice number or PayPal email.
Man, what a christic position…
You could have apologize for your mistake instead of being doubtful and suspicious until the switches landed back to you (even if you were which I perfectly understand).
You could have taken a little time to explain to me how and when you were going to send them back to the correct address if this needed time on your side i.e. no clueless answers like "I don't have labels anymore I need to print some, expect next week". I'm not in your head, all I see is someone delaying forever for stranger reasons.
You could have given feedback and not wait each and every time for me to ask you putting me every week in the uneasy position of the beggar.
Now on a personal level, and because your are talking about this, you could have answered normally when I was taking news after your operation i.e. not saying I smartly suggested to get infos on the shipping. If I had only interests in the shipping I would have ask for it only. But I'm being silly, didn't I red on this board that this operation didn't stop you from organizing another GB but giving me news yes, that's elegant.
I will post your tracking number here when it's updated later today, and I will email it to you as well. Since you wanted transparency, if someone diverts your package using the tracking, please don't blame me.
*lmao*
Trying to make things more transparent or once again more troublesome for me?
May I remind you that posting personal records is against the board rules?
And if you still want your refund, I'll send you your cash back tonight, have the switches for free on me. I don't need your money.
Does it mean the switches have been shipped at last?
Please don't bother to send anything, trust is long gone, just refund me as I already asked you, thank you.
Post by: mecano on Thu, 11 June 2015, 03:42:22
Tracking for mecano: RY*********SG
This speaks for itself...
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 11 June 2015, 03:44:21
Yes, it was my fault for accidentally posting to a wrong address.
And yes, your package was sitting on my table when it was returned to me because I was consolidating shipping with other packages as well.
And yes again, I did promise you tracking number I forgot when until I had operation two weeks ago, and since then anyone who asked was told that I'll ship this Tuesday when the mailman is coming.
And I'm sorry again that I rescheduled the mailman to come today instead to accommodate my schedule, I am a selfish person.
In short, I am sorry my existence in this GB has cause you much pain. I am also sorry that I receive so many PMs that I need to be constantly reminded of your invoice number or PayPal email.
Man, what a christic position�
You could have apologize for your mistake instead of being doubtful and suspicious until the switches landed back to you (even if you were which I perfectly understand).
You could have taken a little time to explain to me how and when you were going to send them back to the correct address if this needed time on your side i.e. no clueless answers like "I don't have labels anymore I need to print some, expect next week". I'm not in your head, all I see is someone delaying forever for stranger reasons.
You could have given feedback and not wait each and every time for me to ask you putting me every week in the uneasy position of the beggar.
Now on a personal level, and because your are talking about this, you could have answered normally when I was taking news after your operation i.e. not saying I smartly suggested to get infos on the shipping. If I had only interests in the shipping I would have ask for it only. But I'm being silly, didn't I red on this board that this operation didn't stop you from organizing another GB but giving me news yes, that's elegant.I will post your tracking number here when it's updated later today, and I will email it to you as well. Since you wanted transparency, if someone diverts your package using the tracking, please don't blame me.
*lmao*
Trying to make things more transparent or once again more troublesome for me?
May I remind you that posting personal records is against the board rules?And if you still want your refund, I'll send you your cash back tonight, have the switches for free on me. I don't need your money.
Does it mean the switches have been shipped at last?
Please don't bother to send anything, trust is long gone, just refund me as I already asked you, thank you.
I have refunded you, I suppose we are done.
Post by: mecano on Thu, 11 June 2015, 03:48:09
All about the lolz huh Shadovved.
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 11 June 2015, 03:52:31
SingPost tracking is sparse and only shows the destination country, which you've already disclosed.Tracking for mecano: RY*********SG
This speaks for itself...
Example from my Gateron order:
(http://abload.de/img/7b2654bc96ac138f9af613hk4p.jpg)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 11 June 2015, 04:23:42
Post by: mecano on Thu, 11 June 2015, 05:57:52
May a moderator remove this please?
Post by: Fire Brand on Thu, 11 June 2015, 06:16:37
You can acquire my personal address with this tracking number, the process is pretty obvious.I don't want to report the post but hit report post on the one with the tracking number list the reason you want it remove and submit a mod will then remove it.
May a moderator remove this please?
As much as I have a dislike for how you have gone about this Mecano the tracking number as you have said should not be visible as you can redirect it, come on people lets all be happy just XX out the middle part of the tracking number shadovved buddie :)
Post by: mecano on Thu, 11 June 2015, 06:30:58
Again this speaks for itself.
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 11 June 2015, 06:47:51
You can acquire my personal address with this tracking number, the process is pretty obvious.I don't want to report the post but hit report post on the one with the tracking number list the reason you want it remove and submit a mod will then remove it.
May a moderator remove this please?
As much as I have a dislike for how you have gone about this Mecano the tracking number as you have said should not be visible as you can redirect it, come on people lets all be happy just XX out the middle part of the tracking number shadovved buddie :)
Ask nicely and you shall receive.
Make sure he thanks you :D
Post by: mecano on Thu, 11 June 2015, 07:00:01
Ask nicely and you shall receive.
Make sure he thanks you :D
With responsibilities come powers and it looks you abused them miserably.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 11 June 2015, 07:08:48
Ask nicely and you shall receive.
Make sure he thanks you :D
With responsibilities come powers and it looks you abused them miserably.
Okay, dude, you've said your piece. I think it would be best if you don't post in this thread any more.
Post by: mecano on Thu, 11 June 2015, 08:17:14
I also received the refund notice, including the paypal 'donation' payment fee for the second payment.
Fee that I didn't claimed back when asking for a refund but that he honestly included.
Now that it looks that the switches are really on their way and I have no reason to doubt about it, I will use this fee (and add the remaining to the donation fee) to refund the refund as soon as I got them ; sending the switches back to Shadovved would be asking for more troubles and would be more costy (but if you want me to send these back to you, Shadovved, let me know, we'll figure out something).
So thank you Shadovved for this good move :thumb:
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Thu, 11 June 2015, 08:33:07
While all this happen, my switches arrived in Brazil in 5/5/2015 and are still being hold by customs. And no estimate of delivery. :(
Post by: mecano on Thu, 11 June 2015, 08:51:09
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Thu, 11 June 2015, 09:10:47
That's very unfortunate Vinny, more than one month in customs is not normal at all from my country perspective, more than one week shouldn't I guess. Did they give you any reason for that? Here it is possible once you have found the 'magical' phone number (which used to be widely available years ago ; times are changing, less working humans, more obfuscated automatized processes) to talk to them and they are pretty helpful if they can.Brazilian postal service has been declining in quality for about a decade, when the e-commerce fever started here. And don't think that I and other people didn't tried to change this: Brazilian post is government-run, with all bureaucracy implicit by this.
Do you want to know their official position? I know that because of previous experiences: the standard estimate for delivery of international non-express packages (the tracking code starts with R, just like the one Shadovved used) is 60 business days starting from the day the package arrives in Brazil. Complication: the packages must go through customs, which is another public service, from a distinct government department.
Truth be told: Brazilian government is using postal import taxes as a way to increase revenue. It is a flat 60% tax over package value + shipping. And I read in some news that Brazilian post receives about 2 million packages per month, without an infrastructure to support this volume of work.
I'll finish with an example that happened to me this week: last Tuesday I received a book (one of the few items that can not be import taxed by Brazilian law) that I bought on Amazon UK. I purchased it in November 2014. It took so long to be delivered that I asked for a refund on Amazon UK and bought it again on Amazon US (they use a shipping company with their own fleet called i-Parcel. Only when it arrives in Brazil they use local post service to make final delivery).
Post by: Metr0 on Sun, 21 June 2015, 16:43:38
Post by: mecano on Tue, 23 June 2015, 07:45:16
Post by: meow a cat on Wed, 24 June 2015, 12:18:23
Any help with a fix would be wonderful! Especially if you include pictures! Aside from this issue, they're amazing switches though.
Thanks for running this GB Shadovved!
Post by: swill on Fri, 03 July 2015, 22:56:23
If anyone is looking to sell extras, I'm looking for 100 brown switches :D
Ya, I can hook you up for what it cost me to my door ($.25/each). PM me...
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Sat, 04 July 2015, 09:16:27
Post by: jorgenslee on Sat, 04 July 2015, 09:27:54
Post by: ideus on Sat, 04 July 2015, 09:59:37
So, I swapped the MX blacks on my JD40 out for Gateron Clears, and about 10 are catching, oddly enough on SP DSA caps (Deep Space). I fixed one by swapping tops with another Gateron switch that didn't have the catching issue. Has anyone figured out how to fix the Gaterons that catch? Is there something I can file down on the switch top? If 1/4 Gaterons have the catching issue like the JD40 ended up with, I won't be able to avoid having switches that catch on my Phantom build.
Any help with a fix would be wonderful! Especially if you include pictures! Aside from this issue, they're amazing switches though.
Thanks for running this GB Shadovved!
Could you explain in more detail the way your switches catch? I am using Granite DSA with Gaterons Blue and Blacks on a GON's Nerd 60 with no plate and they work flawlessly; thus, I just cannot imagine what is wrong with yours.
Post by: jorgenslee on Sat, 04 July 2015, 11:42:19
So, I swapped the MX blacks on my JD40 out for Gateron Clears, and about 10 are catching, oddly enough on SP DSA caps (Deep Space). I fixed one by swapping tops with another Gateron switch that didn't have the catching issue. Has anyone figured out how to fix the Gaterons that catch? Is there something I can file down on the switch top? If 1/4 Gaterons have the catching issue like the JD40 ended up with, I won't be able to avoid having switches that catch on my Phantom build.
Any help with a fix would be wonderful! Especially if you include pictures! Aside from this issue, they're amazing switches though.
Thanks for running this GB Shadovved!
Could you explain in more detail the way your switches catch? I am using Granite DSA with Gaterons Blue and Blacks on a GON's Nerd 60 with no plate and they work flawlessly; thus, I just cannot imagine what is wrong with yours.
I also have sticking problem with my gateron tops on JD40 using stock qfr keycaps. Haven't had the time to investigate the issue but my quick observation is that if the keycap is pressed too hard, the keycap would reach the base of the top and somewhat fits snugly preventing it from returning. These happens only to some of the switch though.
Post by: RavenII on Sat, 04 July 2015, 11:51:21
I also have sticking problem with my gateron tops on JD40 using stock qfr keycaps. Haven't had the time to investigate the issue but my quick observation is that if the keycap is pressed too hard, the keycap would reach the base of the top and somewhat fits snugly preventing it from returning. These happens only to some of the switch though.
Check if it follows the switch or the keycap...my issue stayed with the keycaps.
Post by: meow a cat on Sun, 05 July 2015, 03:51:31
So, I swapped the MX blacks on my JD40 out for Gateron Clears, and about 10 are catching, oddly enough on SP DSA caps (Deep Space). I fixed one by swapping tops with another Gateron switch that didn't have the catching issue. Has anyone figured out how to fix the Gaterons that catch? Is there something I can file down on the switch top? If 1/4 Gaterons have the catching issue like the JD40 ended up with, I won't be able to avoid having switches that catch on my Phantom build.
Any help with a fix would be wonderful! Especially if you include pictures! Aside from this issue, they're amazing switches though.
Thanks for running this GB Shadovved!
Could you explain in more detail the way your switches catch? I am using Granite DSA with Gaterons Blue and Blacks on a GON's Nerd 60 with no plate and they work flawlessly; thus, I just cannot imagine what is wrong with yours.
I also have sticking problem with my gateron tops on JD40 using stock qfr keycaps. Haven't had the time to investigate the issue but my quick observation is that if the keycap is pressed too hard, the keycap would reach the base of the top and somewhat fits snugly preventing it from returning. These happens only to some of the switch though.
That's different from my issue, mine catch on the way down if I press them even a little off center (on the side towards me, the side of the switch farthest from me is fine). The key stops for a moment and makes a pretty loud ka-thunk sound.. really unpleasant. It turned out to be nearly all of my switches, out of 200 I have like 30 that don't catch. They come back up just fine though.
The fix for me was to file down the edge of the switch top with a small round file, but it takes forever to do it. I did all 40 switch tops on my JD40 and it took me like four hours to do.. and some of them are still grindy and scratchy feeling. Really unimpressed to be honest, I can't use these on my next Phantom build unless I use cheap keycaps or spend an entire day filing to end up with some switches that are way scratchier than Cherrys. It's a shame, because I was excited to use these, and I kind of feel like I wasted $50. The few that don't catch feel great.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 20 July 2015, 23:40:22
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 21 July 2015, 00:25:36
I know this is a long shot, and maybe not really appropriate to post here, but were there any extra Browns from this drop that I might be able to buy at a marked up price?Nah, if you're looking for extras from the buy this would be the right place to ask. Unfortunately, we sold all the extras a while back. It shouldn't be too hard to find some in the classifieds though.
Post by: vistination on Tue, 21 July 2015, 01:12:03
Post by: Glissant on Thu, 23 July 2015, 11:14:37
No longer looking.
Post by: mashby on Fri, 24 July 2015, 09:40:23
Thanks in advance!
Post by: Tachi on Fri, 24 July 2015, 09:48:30
Post by: swill on Mon, 27 July 2015, 05:56:13
What are the odds of there being a round 2 of this buy in the near future? Gutted to have missed it!What are you looking for? I bought more than I need and will sell some at cost to those who want some.
Post by: swill on Mon, 27 July 2015, 05:56:43
I wish I had bought more browns :(How many are you looking for?
Post by: Tachi on Mon, 27 July 2015, 07:04:52
I was looking for around 160 blacks and maybe just a few of each other to try. No idea how much shipping from Canada to the UK would cost?What are the odds of there being a round 2 of this buy in the near future? Gutted to have missed it!What are you looking for? I bought more than I need and will sell some at cost to those who want some.
Also cheers for your online tools they are what has led me towards building my first keyboard haha.
Post by: swill on Mon, 27 July 2015, 07:40:27
I always love to be the enabler. I apologize to your wallet.I was looking for around 160 blacks and maybe just a few of each other to try. No idea how much shipping from Canada to the UK would cost?What are the odds of there being a round 2 of this buy in the near future? Gutted to have missed it!What are you looking for? I bought more than I need and will sell some at cost to those who want some.
Also cheers for your online tools they are what has led me towards building my first keyboard haha.
I will check when I get home. I should have enough blacks for you. Shipping would be about $10 for Air (no tracking and ~2-3weeks for delivery). I will have to weigh and actually check the cost of the express options. Shipping costs more in Canada than in the US, so I am willing to split it with you to get it to the ballpark you are expecting.
Post by: zenless on Mon, 27 July 2015, 08:46:25
Post by: Tachi on Mon, 27 July 2015, 09:09:39
Awesome! I am used to paying lots for shipping being from the UK haha. Let me know how much the express will be when you get the chance. Or even possibly a slow but insured as 2-3 weeks is nothing to wait haha.I always love to be the enabler. I apologize to your wallet.I was looking for around 160 blacks and maybe just a few of each other to try. No idea how much shipping from Canada to the UK would cost?What are the odds of there being a round 2 of this buy in the near future? Gutted to have missed it!What are you looking for? I bought more than I need and will sell some at cost to those who want some.
Also cheers for your online tools they are what has led me towards building my first keyboard haha.
I will check when I get home. I should have enough blacks for you. Shipping would be about $10 for Air (no tracking and ~2-3weeks for delivery). I will have to weigh and actually check the cost of the express options. Shipping costs more in Canada than in the US, so I am willing to split it with you to get it to the ballpark you are expecting.
So glad I joined rather than carried on observing this is one seriously kind community.
Post by: swill on Mon, 27 July 2015, 09:11:58
Anyone have around 65 browns?I have lots of browns. PM me and we will sort out the details. :)
Post by: swill on Mon, 27 July 2015, 09:13:42
OK. I will check on this when I get home and PM you. :)Awesome! I am used to paying lots for shipping being from the UK haha. Let me know how much the express will be when you get the chance. Or even possibly a slow but insured as 2-3 weeks is nothing to wait haha.I always love to be the enabler. I apologize to your wallet.I was looking for around 160 blacks and maybe just a few of each other to try. No idea how much shipping from Canada to the UK would cost?What are the odds of there being a round 2 of this buy in the near future? Gutted to have missed it!What are you looking for? I bought more than I need and will sell some at cost to those who want some.
Also cheers for your online tools they are what has led me towards building my first keyboard haha.
I will check when I get home. I should have enough blacks for you. Shipping would be about $10 for Air (no tracking and ~2-3weeks for delivery). I will have to weigh and actually check the cost of the express options. Shipping costs more in Canada than in the US, so I am willing to split it with you to get it to the ballpark you are expecting.
So glad I joined rather than carried on observing this is one seriously kind community.
Kindness breeds kindness. Many people on here have been very generous and kind to me, its the least I can do.
Post by: tshakah on Fri, 31 July 2015, 10:36:46
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Tue, 04 August 2015, 09:03:27
Tracking code received, now it's time for the waiting game. If I'm lucky it'll be delivered in June.
Tracking code received, now it's time for the waiting game. If I'm lucky it'll be delivered in June.
In May probably.
Do not underestimate the incompetence of the Brazilian post. :( At least with a tracking code I can complain if it takes too long.Tracking code received, now it's time for the waiting game. If I'm lucky it'll be delivered in June.
In May probably.
Tracking says that my package arrived in Brazil. Now it goes to Customs, a.k.a. Curitiba's postal black hole (Curitiba is the city here in Brazil who concentrates customs for packages with less than 2 kg).
Now we wait.
mecano's switches were sent from Singapore, couldn't be delivered, returned to Singapore and were resent to him.
While all this happen, my switches arrived in Brazil in 5/5/2015 and are still being hold by customs. And no estimate of delivery. :(
All that quotes just to say that the first package of switches are still being hold by Brazilian customs. :'( The second package with 94 Blue switches came from the US in less than a month.
Post by: zenless on Tue, 04 August 2015, 10:46:10
OK. I will check on this when I get home and PM you. :)
Kindness breeds kindness. Many people on here have been very generous and kind to me, its the least I can do.
Swill was a bang up guy. Was a pleasure to buy these extras he graciously offered. Quick shipping even going from the Canada to US. Thanks again!
Post by: swill on Tue, 04 August 2015, 12:09:19
Any time. It was a pleasure working with you. :)
OK. I will check on this when I get home and PM you. :)
Kindness breeds kindness. Many people on here have been very generous and kind to me, its the least I can do.
Swill was a bang up guy. Was a pleasure to buy these extras he graciously offered. Quick shipping even going from the Canada to US. Thanks again!
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 05 August 2015, 16:03:42
Post by: pokkuhlag on Thu, 06 August 2015, 12:19:50
Post by: bigDave on Sun, 16 August 2015, 11:18:46
Also does does anyone know when the next gateron group buy is going to be, don't want to wait 5 weeks for massdrop shipping.
Post by: nmur on Sun, 16 August 2015, 11:31:00
keep in mind that I'm in aus, so mind the shipping.
Post by: Vaun on Sun, 16 August 2015, 15:26:39
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:34:09
Post by: trenzafeeds on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:35:07
Exactly 120 days after being shipped, my switches FINALLY arrived today.Victoire!
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 26 August 2015, 17:36:17
Exactly 120 days after being shipped, my switches FINALLY arrived today.holy ****
Post by: suicidal_orange on Wed, 26 August 2015, 17:49:35
Exactly 120 days after being shipped, my switches FINALLY arrived today.
:eek: this puts our packages disappearing for a week in custom into perspective - I don't think I can ever complain about postage delays again. I hope they're worth the wait!
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Wed, 26 August 2015, 18:28:25
When everybody here complains about packages being hold by customs for 1 or 2 weeks, my only thought is "you are adorable".Exactly 120 days after being shipped, my switches FINALLY arrived today.
:eek: this puts our packages disappearing for a week in custom into perspective - I don't think I can ever complain about postage delays again. I hope they're worth the wait!
Brazil ain't a country for amateurs.
Post by: suicidal_orange on Wed, 26 August 2015, 19:04:37
When everybody here complains about packages being hold by customs for 1 or 2 weeks, my only thought is "you are adorable".Exactly 120 days after being shipped, my switches FINALLY arrived today.
:eek: this puts our packages disappearing for a week in custom into perspective - I don't think I can ever complain about postage delays again. I hope they're worth the wait!
Brazil ain't a country for amateurs.
Well a week is a 700% delay - if a package arrives in the country and customs aren't interested I'll have it the next day. Even so, it's only a week...
I think I'd just pretend the rest of the world didn't exist if mail took months, you have my respect for sticking with it!
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Wed, 26 August 2015, 19:31:07
Months? One time a movie Blu-ray I bought from Amazon took 2 and a half years to be delivered. That coincided with a period where Brazilian customs agents made an special operation to curb illegal imports. Which wasn't my case, but it was affected the same way. Brazil is a mess. Period. :(When everybody here complains about packages being hold by customs for 1 or 2 weeks, my only thought is "you are adorable".Exactly 120 days after being shipped, my switches FINALLY arrived today.
:eek: this puts our packages disappearing for a week in custom into perspective - I don't think I can ever complain about postage delays again. I hope they're worth the wait!
Brazil ain't a country for amateurs.
Well a week is a 700% delay - if a package arrives in the country and customs aren't interested I'll have it the next day. Even so, it's only a week...
I think I'd just pretend the rest of the world didn't exist if mail took months, you have my respect for sticking with it!
Post by: jorgenslee on Fri, 28 August 2015, 23:16:41
Kudos to swill, awesome guy. Just got the browns and clears today. :DAny time. It was a pleasure working with you. :)
OK. I will check on this when I get home and PM you. :)
Kindness breeds kindness. Many people on here have been very generous and kind to me, its the least I can do.
Swill was a bang up guy. Was a pleasure to buy these extras he graciously offered. Quick shipping even going from the Canada to US. Thanks again!
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 28 August 2015, 23:18:28
One time a movie Blu-ray I bought from Amazon took 2 and a half years to be delivered.
One of the few times I've audibly said "what the ****" reading something on the internet.
Post by: swill on Fri, 28 August 2015, 23:28:00
Awesome. Enjoy your build... :)Kudos to swill, awesome guy. Just got the browns and clears today. :DAny time. It was a pleasure working with you. :)
OK. I will check on this when I get home and PM you. :)
Kindness breeds kindness. Many people on here have been very generous and kind to me, its the least I can do.
Swill was a bang up guy. Was a pleasure to buy these extras he graciously offered. Quick shipping even going from the Canada to US. Thanks again!
Just so everyone knows. I have sold switches to 3-4 people and I don't have extra to sell anymore. Figured I would mention that at this point. Need to keep some for my builds. :)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 29 August 2015, 08:48:26
Awesome. Enjoy your build... :)Kudos to swill, awesome guy. Just got the browns and clears today. :DAny time. It was a pleasure working with you. :)
OK. I will check on this when I get home and PM you. :)
Kindness breeds kindness. Many people on here have been very generous and kind to me, its the least I can do.
Swill was a bang up guy. Was a pleasure to buy these extras he graciously offered. Quick shipping even going from the Canada to US. Thanks again!
Just so everyone knows. I have sold switches to 3-4 people and I don't have extra to sell anymore. Figured I would mention that at this point. Need to keep some for my builds. :)
Hey swill, congrats on your 3k posts.
Post by: swill on Sat, 29 August 2015, 08:49:37
Woot. Thx. :)Awesome. Enjoy your build... :)Kudos to swill, awesome guy. Just got the browns and clears today. :DAny time. It was a pleasure working with you. :)
OK. I will check on this when I get home and PM you. :)
Kindness breeds kindness. Many people on here have been very generous and kind to me, its the least I can do.
Swill was a bang up guy. Was a pleasure to buy these extras he graciously offered. Quick shipping even going from the Canada to US. Thanks again!
Just so everyone knows. I have sold switches to 3-4 people and I don't have extra to sell anymore. Figured I would mention that at this point. Need to keep some for my builds. :)
Hey swill, congrats on your 3k posts.
Post by: Phirr on Wed, 02 September 2015, 16:01:05
Months? One time a movie Blu-ray I bought from Amazon took 2 and a half years to be delivered.
Should have shelled out for Prime ;)
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Wed, 02 September 2015, 16:36:57
Should have shelled out for Prime ;)
No Amazon Prime for me here in Brazil. :(
Post by: suicidal_orange on Wed, 02 September 2015, 17:10:25
My reaction was stunned silence and only after reading it again a week later have I managed to reply, but I still don't know what to say. It's just too crazy for words!One time a movie Blu-ray I bought from Amazon took 2 and a half years to be delivered.
One of the few times I've audibly said "what the ****" reading something on the internet.
Post by: majnu on Thu, 10 September 2015, 08:49:12
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Thu, 10 September 2015, 08:54:25
sorry to bump this. I know the gb has closed but where can I buy red, brown possibly yellow gateron switches? I would like to replace the mx blue on my noppoo choc mini for these if it is possible.https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gateron-switches
Post by: majnu on Thu, 10 September 2015, 15:28:10
sorry to bump this. I know the gb has closed but where can I buy red, brown possibly yellow gateron switches? I would like to replace the mx blue on my noppoo choc mini for these if it is possible.https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gateron-switches
Thank you. I did a bit of investigation and my keyboard is plate mounted so I would need to solder each switch. I haven't got the time for that so will just probably buy another keyboard or wait for the rgb topre
Post by: Protoype on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:22:36
Post by: rpeterclark on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:30:11
Will there be another group buy soon? if so i'll cancel my massdrop order.
Just buy them from Amazon if you don't mind the plate-mount version: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=gateron . About the same price as MD. The ones on Massdrop are PCB mount if that's what you require.
Post by: Protoype on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:44:13
So if another GB happened I'd go for 300 of Browns/ Blacks/ Possibly Clears also. :p
Post by: XMIT on Wed, 30 September 2015, 16:15:21