[GB] Granite Set ~ Sublimated Full PBT (spacebar included)

[taylordcraig]

I mean this,

Was JUST about to post that.
I imagine for egdx? Not sure where it would go in that layout.

[Grendel]

That enter key is from the mono-legend international set. Guess he decided to put it there ?

[Eszett]

@Grendel Non-alphas should be homogenously dark grey, don’t you agree? There are exceptions, spacebar for example, I can live with that. And there is this weird exception with the keys f5 f6 f7 f8 in light grey due to some historic reasons, however, you can replace them by dark grey ones available in the lost and found. A light grey 1u enter doesn’t fit in this color logic, too.

[LechnerDE]

I've been contacted by massdrop... curious to see where this is heading us

So how do you feel about this? Are you considering selling your design?

I thought you labeled this as a one time set? I think this exclusivity was one of the draws that led to the major success of thiss GB.

It would have a bitter aftertaste if the Geekhack community got these sets with little flaws and now random guys could buy the fixed sets via Massdrop...

But it's your decision of course 

[taylordcraig]

@Grendel Non-alphas should be homogenously dark grey, don’t you agree? There are exceptions, spacebar for example, I can live with that. And there is this weird exception with the keys f5 f6 f7 f8 in light grey due to some historic reasons, however, you can replace them by dark grey ones available in the lost and found. A light grey 1u enter doesn’t fit in this color logic, too.

Personally I've always hated the two tone function row and love buys that offer alternate colors for them.

[Grendel]

@Grendel Non-alphas should be homogenously dark grey, don’t you agree? There are exceptions, spacebar for example, I can live with that. And there is this weird exception with the keys f5 f6 f7 f8 in light grey due to some historic reasons, however, you can replace them by dark grey ones available in the lost and found. A light grey 1u enter doesn’t fit in this color logic, too.

It's whatever floats your boat -- there is not objective color logic, it's totally subjective. Personally I like the lighter Enter. If you don't, don't use it.

It would have a bitter aftertaste if the Geekhack community got these sets with little flaws and now random guys could buy the fixed sets via Massdrop...

I wouldn't mind if R2 happens on MD, would still buy some more. We most likely paid less than what these would go for on MD and we can get fixed sets from SP for free. You can too. 

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Mann, erinnert mich and die Gründe warum ich in ausgewandert bin. 

[Matt3o]

Re Massdrop: it turned out that they can actually have nice pricing. They will let me know their tiers for Granite and see if this is feasible.

Re exclusivity: I don't like round 2s. I don't want people to think that there will be a round 2 for every GB I organize. That being said there's such a huge demand for Granite that I might make an exception, at the end it's a service for the community and if the community wants it, I can't deny it.

Round 2 will be slightly different so who got round 1 will still have some exclusive keys and also get a chance to get more keys. Also there won't be Cyrillic but maybe Japanese or Korean instead.

Re 1u enter key: It should have been dark gray. I don't remember why it ended up light gray sincerely. Probably because I replaced a key that previously was light gray.

[pasph]

In R2 there will be international kits?

[Matt3o]

In R2 there will be international kits?

yes, but probably some language will be dropped.

[cjhard]

3u PBT "spacebar", 2u+1u shift?

[ideus]

Re Massdrop: it turned out that they can actually have nice pricing. They will let me know their tiers for Granite and see if this is feasible.

Re exclusivity: I don't like round 2s. I don't want people to think that there will be a round 2 for every GB I organize. That being said there's such a huge demand for Granite that I might make an exception, at the end it's a service for the community and if the community wants it, I can't deny it.

Round 2 will be slightly different so who got round 1 will still have some exclusive keys and also get a chance to get more keys. Also there won't be Cyrillic but maybe Japanese or Korean instead.

Re 1u enter key: It should have been dark gray. I don't remember why it ended up light gray sincerely. Probably because I replaced a key that previously was light gray.

Based on the more recent comments it seems that this thread is turning into an IC one. Time for a new IC thread? Maybe not yet...

[Mercury7]

Not a fan of another middle man being introduced into this whole process. If 400 people on Massdrop want to buy granite why can't they do so via PMK like everyone else? It keeps control in Matt and Melissa's hands rather than possible power struggle with a 3rd party. Their money goes right to the manufacturer rather than having a middle man skim profits and increase even more lag time into the process. Can't imagine the introduced hassle for people who had issues with their order as well. The process works as is, I think it does a disservice to this community, Signature Plastics, and even you Matt to have the next run go through Massdrop.

[Eszett]

Re 1u enter key: It should have been dark gray. I don't remember why it ended up light gray sincerely. Probably because I replaced a key that previously was light gray.

Thanks, matt3o! Maybe I can mcguyver it bye dying it reddish.

[tbc]

@Grendel Non-alphas should be homogenously dark grey, don’t you agree? There are exceptions, spacebar for example, I can live with that. And there is this weird exception with the keys f5 f6 f7 f8 in light grey due to some historic reasons, however, you can replace them by dark grey ones available in the lost and found. A light grey 1u enter doesn’t fit in this color logic, too.

Personally I've always hated the two tone function row and love buys that offer alternate colors for them.

yes!!!!

you are back on my keyboard will

[tbc]

Not a fan of another middle man being introduced into this whole process. If 400 people on Massdrop want to buy granite why can't they do so via PMK like everyone else? It keeps control in Matt and Melissa's hands rather than possible power struggle with a 3rd party. Their money goes right to the manufacturer rather than having a middle man skim profits and increase even more lag time into the process. Can't imagine the introduced hassle for people who had issues with their order as well. The process works as is, I think it does a disservice to this community, Signature Plastics, and even you Matt to have the next run go through Massdrop.

it would give SP an out, as in, they're technically not required to offer customer support and neither is massdrop.

it makes sense AFTER doing this test run with the first buy.

[Vibex]

Posted a short review of this set on my website. Here it is if anyone is interested.

[Vitaly]

Round 2 will be slightly different so who got round 1 will still have some exclusive keys and also get a chance to get more keys. Also there won't be Cyrillic but maybe Japanese or Korean instead.

Why cyrillic? I was hoping to buy granite full set and cyrillic for my next diy40% keyboard   

[Matt3o]

Not a fan of another middle man being introduced into this whole process. If 400 people on Massdrop want to buy granite why can't they do so via PMK like everyone else? It keeps control in Matt and Melissa's hands rather than possible power struggle with a 3rd party. Their money goes right to the manufacturer rather than having a middle man skim profits and increase even more lag time into the process. Can't imagine the introduced hassle for people who had issues with their order as well. The process works as is, I think it does a disservice to this community, Signature Plastics, and even you Matt to have the next run go through Massdrop.

Massdrop GB system is way better than SP's. If the price is the same, I don't see it as a disservice, actually I see it as a bonus.

Posted a short review of this set on my website. Here it is if anyone is interested.

nice review! thanks for sharing.

[tyvar1]

In R2 there will be international kits?

yes, but probably some language will be dropped.

Will it have iso layout and åäö keys?

[Matt3o]

In R2 there will be international kits?

yes, but probably some language will be dropped.

Will it have iso layout and åäö keys?

it will have ISO. I will probably drop PT, DK, ES, RU, UA (unless I get some requests). FR and IT are also endangered, I have to check how the kits come out.

[drrtyrokka]

As long as you keep the German layouts, we're fine 😉

[tyvar1]

As long as you keep the German layouts, we're fine 😉

Qwertz? Üäö? Seems to be the best for me(Sweden, qwerty åäö) just switch Z and y i will do that when my poker II iso de comes

[madik]

+1 for another round. Will be perfect for my upcoming Ergodox build and I unfortunatelly missed the first GB.

[Smasher816]

+1 for another round. Will be perfect for my upcoming Ergodox build and I unfortunatelly missed the first GB.

+100. I need this in my life.

[taylordcraig]

+1 for another round. Will be perfect for my upcoming Ergodox build and I unfortunatelly missed the first GB.

+100. I need this in my life.

+10 Can't get enough granite.

[eMps]

Re Massdrop: it turned out that they can actually have nice pricing. They will let me know their tiers for Granite and see if this is feasible.

Re exclusivity: I don't like round 2s. I don't want people to think that there will be a round 2 for every GB I organize. That being said there's such a huge demand for Granite that I might make an exception, at the end it's a service for the community and if the community wants it, I can't deny it.

Round 2 will be slightly different so who got round 1 will still have some exclusive keys and also get a chance to get more keys. Also there won't be Cyrillic but maybe Japanese or Korean instead.

Re 1u enter key: It should have been dark gray. I don't remember why it ended up light gray sincerely. Probably because I replaced a key that previously was light gray.

I'm definitely getting another set if Korean is one of the options.

[Mercury7]

Anyone receive word on replacements being shipped for defective keys?

[Yslen]

Nope, nothing here yet.

[Matt3o]

Please have a look at this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61612.0 if you need more granite...

[tyvar1]

Please have a look at this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61612.0 if you need more granite...

Great news!

[CommonCurt]

Please have a look at this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61612.0 if you need more granite...

Wish I could just get the Windows, nerdom and the set with the blue arrows.

Do you think that will be possible if this goes through MassDrop?

[Matt3o]

Please have a look at this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61612.0 if you need more granite...

Wish I could just get the Windows, nerdom and the set with the blue arrows.

Do you think that will be possible if this goes through MassDrop?

I don't have a clue communication is a bit slow with massdrop. I'll let you know asap.

[Mercury7]

Received an email with tracking info, believe its the granite replacements they were planning on sending, unless galaxy class is magically done already

[Grendel]

Ditto. I should have whatever this is by the weekend, will post comparison pics if it's the replacement caps.

Edit: I do have the Galaxy Set on order, but not the DSA Dolch.

[LechnerDE]

Received an email with tracking info, believe its the granite replacements they were planning on sending, unless galaxy class is magically done already

I just got the same mail, but I haven't ordered granite replacements!

Maybe it's indeed my Galaxy Class order? Or the DSA Dolch Set is finished?

[Yslen]

Got one too, woo!

[abjr]

Received my replacement caps today and I am very happy. Thanks, Melissa! 

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[drrtyrokka]

Pictures pleeease or i don't believe ;p

[LechnerDE]

Ditto. I should have whatever this is by the weekend, will post comparison pics if it's the replacement caps.

Edit: I do have the Galaxy Set on order, but not the DSA Dolch.

Received an email with tracking info, believe its the granite replacements they were planning on sending, unless galaxy class is magically done already

So have you guys received anything yet?

I am REALLY curious what it is, because I didn't order any replacement keys for granite!

[Yslen]

Looks like a huge improvement!

[DanielT]

I have Galaxy and no tracking received, so it must be something else.

[StylinGreymon]

Got the new caps in.

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After:

[Grendel]

Ditto. I should have whatever this is by the weekend, will post comparison pics if it's the replacement caps.

Edit: I do have the Galaxy Set on order, but not the DSA Dolch.

[..]

So have you guys received anything yet?

I am REALLY curious what it is, because I didn't order any replacement keys for granite!

Looks like it's the replacement caps, still a few more hours before I get home..

[rowdy]

Received my replacement caps today and I am very happy. Thanks, Melissa! 

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That's your layout?  Wow, me too!

[Mercury7]

Yep it was replacement caps, definitely much better sublimation alignment on my numpad now

[Grendel]

I was the caps, too late for taking a pic right now, will do that tomorrow. I was supposed to get three common sets but only one was sent (packaging slip says QTY 3, argh !!) Caps look a lot more uniform mounted, although I do have a few that are printed slightly off-center, I think I will just ignore that for now

[Grendel]

Here we go, same board w/ original common set and replacement common set:

[CommonCurt]

Here we go, same board w/ original common set and replacement common set:

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Just curious.  Did they send you new deep dish F/J caps with your replacements?

[Mercury7]

I didn't receive new deep dish

[Yslen]

I don't know if this is true for everyone, but my deep dish caps seem to be fine. I guess they're done on a separate mould (or whatever the term is) that wasn't affected by the alignment issues?