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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #600 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 18:14:19 »
deskhtority wiki which says that MX black are 60cN at actuation point

This is why I have a hard time understanding wlhlm's test that measured MX black at 65g bottom out. It really only takes 5g more force to bottom out the switch from actuation? It should be more like 15g.
Just to make it clear, I just compared the feeling. The measurements took someone else (wscarlton), who happened to post it at almost the same time.

Ah okay, good to know. The format of reddit makes my head hurt.
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #601 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 19:34:56 »
Ah okay, good to know. The format of reddit makes my head hurt.

I wonder if it's because we're just used to forums?...(I too can't make sense of it)...when does a new post arrive, where does it end up, top or bottom...what if it gets filtered...etc...it really is confusing. I wonder if it's because I'm 31, and a younger generation makes better sense of it? I dunno....anyhow, back to topic.

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #602 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 21:15:02 »
Ah okay, good to know. The format of reddit makes my head hurt.

I wonder if it's because we're just used to forums?...(I too can't make sense of it)...when does a new post arrive, where does it end up, top or bottom...what if it gets filtered...etc...it really is confusing. I wonder if it's because I'm 31, and a younger generation makes better sense of it? I dunno....anyhow, back to topic.

Treat it like a news feed. If you sort by "new" the latest posts will always be on top. If you are on the default "hot" tab you will see posts that are popular. If they are not relevant anymore (which is usually after a day) they disappear from the first Hot page and are getting pushed further back.

Same with the comments. You can sort by "Best", "new" etc. Where you can choose if you want the most upvoted comments on top or the latest ones.

Since each post will only get an exposure of a day or two it is very hard to keep a longer discussion running.

I am also bad at explaining things sorry.


edit: I am still not sure what I should buy oh god  :confused:
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #603 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 21:35:48 »
Ah okay, good to know. The format of reddit makes my head hurt.

I wonder if it's because we're just used to forums?...(I too can't make sense of it)...when does a new post arrive, where does it end up, top or bottom...what if it gets filtered...etc...it really is confusing. I wonder if it's because I'm 31, and a younger generation makes better sense of it? I dunno....anyhow, back to topic.

Treat it like a news feed. If you sort by "new" the latest posts will always be on top. If you are on the default "hot" tab you will see posts that are popular. If they are not relevant anymore (which is usually after a day) they disappear from the first Hot page and are getting pushed further back.

Same with the comments. You can sort by "Best", "new" etc. Where you can choose if you want the most upvoted comments on top or the latest ones.

Since each post will only get an exposure of a day or two it is very hard to keep a longer discussion running.

I am also bad at explaining things sorry.


edit: I am still not sure what I should buy oh god  :confused:

DUDE!...that was a great help. I didn't even know you can do all that...There's just so many things going on, on the screen that it's over whelming sometimes...I guess I just have to give it a solid chance. Thanks for the explanation...that in itself helped a lot.

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #604 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 22:17:27 »
DUDE!...that was a great help. I didn't even know you can do all that...There's just so many things going on, on the screen that it's over whelming sometimes...I guess I just have to give it a solid chance. Thanks for the explanation...that in itself helped a lot.

Glad it helped :thumb:

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #605 on: Fri, 27 February 2015, 23:10:11 »
deskhtority wiki which says that MX black are 60cN at actuation point

This is why I have a hard time understanding wlhlm's test that measured MX black at 65g bottom out. It really only takes 5g more force to bottom out the switch from actuation? It should be more like 15g.
Just to make it clear, I just compared the feeling. The measurements took someone else (wscarlton), who happened to post it at almost the same time.

Ah okay, good to know. The format of reddit makes my head hurt.

treat it like twitter.

you're supposed to ignore other people.
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #606 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 03:31:29 »
Can someone try something for me and tell me how strong the tops are as I just hulked my clear tops open just now after just finishing to solder all the leds in :X

So can you tell me if they break easily or are they pretty solid? more like cherry tops :x

I'm sad now :c
They're more flexible and less brittle than the Abostudio ones


Somewhere it is stated they are made of different plastics, being Abo's the one with less tensile strength that makes them more fragile therefore they may brake under pressure while being removed.
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #607 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 03:47:43 »
Reddit has the advantage over forums in that topics don't hang around for very long. It has the disadvantage that topics don't hang around for very long.

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #608 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 04:54:55 »
Reddit has the advantage over forums in that topics don't hang around for very long. It has the disadvantage that topics don't hang around for very long.
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #609 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 10:54:10 »
If any more interested vendors would like to hop on, we could blast through the 0.16 MOQ for blues and browns :thumb:
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #610 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 10:56:01 »
If any more interested vendors would like to hop on, we could blast through the 0.16 MOQ for blues and browns :thumb:


Of course. The original price is not bad by any means though. But paying even less for these switches is great.

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #611 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 11:14:11 »
TheKeyboardCompany said that they would look into stocking gaterons in their reddit ama, and someone linked to this thread.

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #612 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 11:36:11 »
TheKeyboardCompany said that they would look into stocking gaterons in their reddit ama, and someone linked to this thread.
Yeah, saw that. Does anyone have a way I could get in contact with them other than by phone?
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #613 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 11:43:02 »
TheKeyboardCompany said that they would look into stocking gaterons in their reddit ama, and someone linked to this thread.
Yeah, saw that. Does anyone have a way I could get in contact with them other than by phone?

Bruce is the M.D. You can contact him at bruce@keyboardco.com.

Alternatively, maybe the vendor subforum?

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #614 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 11:45:45 »
TheKeyboardCompany said that they would look into stocking gaterons in their reddit ama, and someone linked to this thread.
Yeah, saw that. Does anyone have a way I could get in contact with them other than by phone?

Bruce is the M.D. You can contact him at bruce@keyboardco.com.

Alternatively, maybe the vendor subforum?
alright, just sent them an email
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #615 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 11:58:44 »
TheKeyboardCompany said that they would look into stocking gaterons in their reddit ama, and someone linked to this thread.
Yeah, saw that. Does anyone have a way I could get in contact with them other than by phone?

Bruce is the M.D. You can contact him at bruce@keyboardco.com.

Alternatively, maybe the vendor subforum?
alright, just sent them an email


Could this contact make take all the colors over 20k? Let see.

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #616 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 14:06:30 »
If any more interested vendors would like to hop on, we could blast through the 0.16 MOQ for blues and browns :thumb:

Wow we blew these MOQs out of the water! The Gatorade train is coming!

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #617 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 14:47:04 »
In for some switches and grabbed some clear covers too. Thanks! :)
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #618 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 16:28:22 »
Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/

Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...

According to this comparison the gateron browns are less tactile than the mx browns.   I really want tactile and it is looking like I should probably hold out until I can get the MX clears at a reasonable price.  End game board and all that.  There was/is a Massdrop vote on keys that included a GB for cherry switches.  I hope it comes to pass. 

thanks for the link!

Well, Now I don't want any brown gaterons... Maybe modify my order to more blues and a few clears + blacks?
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #619 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 21:53:05 »
Ordered some.  I've heard some good and bad things about Gaterons but prices are too good to resist.  Thanks for running this!

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #620 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 21:55:33 »
Ordered some.  I've heard some good and bad things about Gaterons but prices are too good to resist.  Thanks for running this!


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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #621 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 21:55:46 »
Ordered some.  I've heard some good and bad things about Gaterons but prices are too good to resist.  Thanks for running this!

Bad...things? What bad things?! COME ON, START A PANIC!!

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #622 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 22:08:51 »
Ordered some.  I've heard some good and bad things about Gaterons but prices are too good to resist.  Thanks for running this!
Is like sex, everybody has an opinion, but: The bad thing is you not trying it, the good thing is that you will enjoy it. :))

I have no clue what you're saying.  I don't really have an opinion on these because I haven't had a chance to try one yet

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #623 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 22:37:22 »
Ordered some.  I've heard some good and bad things about Gaterons but prices are too good to resist.  Thanks for running this!
Is like sex, everybody has an opinion, but: The bad thing is you not trying it, the good thing is that you will enjoy it. :))

I have no clue what you're saying.  I don't really have an opinion on these because I haven't had a chance to try one yet


Precisely.

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #624 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 22:45:12 »
I also would like to thank all the people that have added this buy to their sigs, I really appreciate all the exposure and help :-*
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #625 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 22:47:52 »

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #626 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 23:56:24 »
Doubling my order, as it turns out my current desoldering project gives me 4 pcbs to solder instead of my initial estimates as 2.

This switch is making me think about planning out a 4 pole multicolor LED setup with a hand wired matrix

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #627 on: Sun, 01 March 2015, 03:47:56 »
How close to 20k?

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #628 on: Sun, 01 March 2015, 08:33:54 »
How close to 20k?

Current Numbers:
Clears: 24,200
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #629 on: Sun, 01 March 2015, 13:22:25 »
Is it 20k overall or 20k for each type of switch?

Also I entered for 300, 150 blues and 150 browns. Might have to get a Phantom board and maybe an ErgoDox board set...



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and it'll give me a switch to replace the faulty space switch in my Das, which will be nice.

Also, if it's at all possible, I'd prefer to be contacted on Reddit since that will automatically notify my phone, versus on here where I pretty much just lurk as of yet.
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« Reply #630 on: Sun, 01 March 2015, 13:26:53 »
Also, if it's at all possible, I'd prefer to be contacted on Reddit since that will automatically notify my phone, versus on here where I pretty much just lurk as of yet.
Try out the Tapatalk app, which should notify you for this forum as well.

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #631 on: Sun, 01 March 2015, 13:29:15 »
Is it 20k overall or 20k for each type of switch?

Also I entered for 300, 150 blues and 150 browns. Might have to get a Phantom board and maybe an ErgoDox board set...



edit\\

and it'll give me a switch to replace the faulty space switch in my Das, which will be nice.

Also, if it's at all possible, I'd prefer to be contacted on Reddit since that will automatically notify my phone, versus on here where I pretty much just lurk as of yet.
20k for each switch type.
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #632 on: Sun, 01 March 2015, 13:54:01 »
can I up my blacks from 10 to 80?

also if possible I'd like to get just one of all the others, but since you said to put it in 10's I put it down as such. If it's not possible then just 10 for all and 80 blacks.
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #633 on: Sun, 01 March 2015, 13:55:33 »
can I up my blacks from 10 to 80?

also if possible I'd like to get just one of all the others, but since you said to put it in 10's I put it down as such. If it's not possible then just 10 for all and 80 blacks.
if it's under ten, any number is fine :thumb: done.
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #634 on: Sun, 01 March 2015, 13:56:38 »
can I up my blacks from 10 to 80?

also if possible I'd like to get just one of all the others, but since you said to put it in 10's I put it down as such. If it's not possible then just 10 for all and 80 blacks.
if it's under ten, any number is fine :thumb: done.
great, thanks!
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #635 on: Sun, 01 March 2015, 23:57:28 »
I'm in for 200 black and 100 blues.  Looking forward to building a new ergodox and more with gaterons :)

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #636 on: Mon, 02 March 2015, 00:23:52 »
I want to... I shouldn't... UGH I'm gonna order a few hundred. I want to build a board with clears and blacks. Thanks for setting this up!

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #637 on: Mon, 02 March 2015, 11:49:50 »
So, I noticed that the shipping charges have changed. Are there rough estimates as to what we can expect at certain quantities? This could potentially change a lot of minds if it's a substantial difference.

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #638 on: Mon, 02 March 2015, 12:25:36 »
Down for 100 Blacks + 30 Clears. This should look nice with some different coloured backlights on the modifiers. :)
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #639 on: Mon, 02 March 2015, 13:26:53 »
OK I got some money and will hop onto this in the next couple of days. Only need to figure out what to buy :/

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #640 on: Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:06:37 »
So, I noticed that the shipping charges have changed. Are there rough estimates as to what we can expect at certain quantities? This could potentially change a lot of minds if it's a substantial difference.
Nope, it's been 7-8 for a set since the beginning, I just made sure to specify that it would go up with bigger orders since people sometimes seem to lack common sense. And the prices really shouldn't drastically change between something like a 100 switch order and a 300 switch order, a few dollars at the most. But obviously people who are ordering like 1500 switches will pay a good bit more. But I don't think that'll come as a shock to anyone. I'll get some more exact estimates tonight though.
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #641 on: Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:07:27 »
#buggerorders FTW

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #642 on: Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:08:01 »
So, I noticed that the shipping charges have changed. Are there rough estimates as to what we can expect at certain quantities? This could potentially change a lot of minds if it's a substantial difference.
Nope, it's been 7-8 for a set since the beginning, I just made sure to specify that it would go up with bugger orders since people sometimes seem to lack common sense. And the prices really shouldn't drastically change between something like a 100 switch order and a 300 switch order, a few dollars at the most. But obviously people who are ordering like 1500 switches will pay a good bit more. But I don't think that'll come as a shock to anyone. I'll get some more exact estimates tonight though.

Ah, gotcha. Lack of common sense is certainly an issue. Thanks for clarifying.

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #643 on: Mon, 02 March 2015, 18:35:51 »
Actually if at all possible I'd like to switch out (har har) my 150 Blues for 150 Clears. Keep the Browns though.

Realized I really am not that much of a fan of the clicky switches.
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #644 on: Mon, 02 March 2015, 18:37:08 »
Actually if at all possible I'd like to switch out (har har) my 150 Blues for 150 Clears. Keep the Browns though.

Realized I really am not that much of a fan of the clicky switches.


PM hwood with your updated quantities, he will take care of it right away.

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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #645 on: Mon, 02 March 2015, 18:56:00 »
Actually if at all possible I'd like to switch out (har har) my 150 Blues for 150 Clears. Keep the Browns though.

Realized I really am not that much of a fan of the clicky switches.
done :thumb: but yeah, in the future PMs are best, luckily I saw this though
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #646 on: Tue, 03 March 2015, 00:57:37 »
Actually if at all possible I'd like to switch out (har har) my 150 Blues for 150 Clears. Keep the Browns though.

Realized I really am not that much of a fan of the clicky switches.
done :thumb: but yeah, in the future PMs are best, luckily I saw this though

Right, didn't even cross my mind. Thanks though! Excited for this, and I can't wait to build a board!
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #647 on: Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:07:11 »
I read somewhere that the black, red, and clear gaterons have the same stem. Only difference is the spring in it.
Anyone care to clarify that ? :D
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #648 on: Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:33:02 »
I read somewhere that the black, red, and clear gaterons have the same stem. Only difference is the spring in it.
Anyone care to clarify that ? :D
Well, yeah, since they're all linears, only difference in stem is the color. Though I'm not actually 100% that the plastic in clear stems is exactly the same
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Re: [GB] Gateron Switches
« Reply #649 on: Tue, 03 March 2015, 07:41:01 »
Invoices will selectively start to go out now, the bulk will start happening Friday. Orders will still be open til the 12th and you stilll have til the 16th to pay invoices.
« Last Edit: Tue, 03 March 2015, 08:24:35 by hwood34 »
IV KWK Info Thread & KBK Info Thread IV (out of date)

Old GBs: Gateron Switches (2015) | CF-LX R1 (2015) | CF-LX R2 (2017) | CF-LXXX (2017) | Gen.s Gem Caps (2015)

"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary"