[GB] Gateron Switch (CLOSED)

[ideus]

Awesome. Thank you for running the group, it is a lot of hard work!

[LBartley]

So, Clears are 35g linear? I've seen mention that they are tactile, and have a bump like browns, but never actually seen the stem outside of the housing.

I was ready to jump in for some reds, but since they're not longer available, I'm thinking clears. But I'd really like to see the stems if anyone has done, or knows of a teardown of various colours.

[Dihedral]

So, Clears are 35g linear? I've seen mention that they are tactile, and have a bump like browns, but never actually seen the stem outside of the housing.

I was ready to jump in for some reds, but since they're not longer available, I'm thinking clears. But I'd really like to see the stems if anyone has done, or knows of a teardown of various colours.

They are just very light linears. Same stem as other linear switches.

[jdcarpe]

GATERON CLEARS ARE SUPER LIGHT (35g) LINEARS, NOT TACTILE!!!

[inanis]

I dunno guys, I'm still not clear on this...Clears are tactile right??

I kid, I kid.

I did order 200 Clears, but it is because I have some 62g springs kicking about, 35g is way to light for me. In the Gaterons that I have for samples the Clears are smoother than Red and Black, even when I swapped it out with heavier springs. I can't wait to try them out on a whole board.

[wlhlm]

In the Gaterons that I have for samples the Clears are smoother than Red and Black, even when I swapped it out with heavier springs.

Even smoother than Gateron Reds/Blacks? I have Reds/Blacks and they are already super smooth. Why would they be different? Wouldn't it be cheaper to make Clear/Red/Black using the same mold and material and just change the color?

[inanis]

In the Gaterons that I have for samples the Clears are smoother than Red and Black, even when I swapped it out with heavier springs.

Even smoother than Gateron Reds/Blacks? I have Reds/Blacks and they are already super smooth. Why would they be different? Wouldn't it be cheaper to make Clear/Red/Black using the same mold and material and just change the color?

Honestly, I don't know why it feels smoother to me. I've taken them apart several times to spring swap and in my (limited) experience I  know that when I take the Black switch and move that spring with the Clear, the Clear is smoother. To be fair, I've messed with the Clear a bit more, or it could just be that the two Blacks I have are abnormal. I only have 2 of each switch type so it is a very small sample group. I also haven't taken the stem and swapped that.

[whentheclouds]

I have some 62g springs kicking about, 35g is way to light for me.

35g should be ~48g on the Korean scale. just so nobody confuses Korean spring weight vs Cherry spring weight

[dante]

I would imagine the 35g Clear Gaterons would be terrible on a board without O-Rings/Soft landing pads.

Maybe they would be better on a plateless board?

[SpAmRaY]

I would imagine the 35g Clear Gaterons would be terrible on a board without O-Rings/Soft landing pads.

Maybe they would be better on a plateless board?

I think the general consensus is most people are buying them because they like the look and will swap a different spring into them. I'm not sure anyone plans on actually using them stock.

OR people need to learn to read and there will be many pissed off customers

[nubbinator]

That and it's just as expensive to get a full switch as the clear switch tops.

[ideus]

That and it's just as expensive to get a full switch as the clear switch tops.

The tops are made of a transparent plastic, while the switch's tops are translucent, so there are a little bit different in between them.

[Dihedral]

I would imagine the 35g Clear Gaterons would be terrible on a board without O-Rings/Soft landing pads.

Maybe they would be better on a plateless board?

I think the general consensus is most people are buying them because they like the look and will swap a different spring into them. I'm not sure anyone plans on actually using them stock.

OR people need to learn to read and there will be many pissed off customers

I can't understand buying such light switches.

[monotagary]

I would imagine the 35g Clear Gaterons would be terrible on a board without O-Rings/Soft landing pads.

Maybe they would be better on a plateless board?

I think the general consensus is most people are buying them because they like the look and will swap a different spring into them. I'm not sure anyone plans on actually using them stock.

OR people need to learn to read and there will be many pissed off customers

I can't understand buying such light switches.

It's a new experience that some people might want to try out. They are also very aesthetically pleasing.

[RavenII]

I guess it MIGHT have something to do with the (lack of) dyes used in the stem? that could MAYBE make them softer/smoother?

[Dihedral]

I guess it MIGHT have something to do with the (lack of) dyes used in the stem? that could MAYBE make them softer/smoother?

Matias originally intended to use orange dye in the quiet click but removed it as it affected the plastic's properties. however gaterons have dyed stems, just they have transparent casing.

[RavenII]

I guess it MIGHT have something to do with the (lack of) dyes used in the stem? that could MAYBE make them softer/smoother?

Matias originally intended to use orange dye in the quiet click but removed it as it affected the plastic's properties. however gaterons have dyed stems, just they have transparent casing.

I don't the clears are dyed...

[ccc24]

about to pay the invoice. Anyway I can confirm my address before these get shipped out?

[hwood34]

about to pay the invoice. Anyway I can confirm my address before these get shipped out?

pm'd

[ccc24]

about to pay the invoice. Anyway I can confirm my address before these get shipped out?

pm'd

perfect thanks

[b7ad]

Does anyone have experience with using the top housing and stem of a gateron clear with the bottom housing of an mx switch compared to using the whole gateron switch? I am planning on putting some of these into my LZ and would potentially be able to avoid re-soldering.

[hwood34]

The declared amount for customs will default at either $20, or the actual amount if your order is less. PM Shadovved if you'd like to change the amount

[Razor Lotus]

I would imagine the 35g Clear Gaterons would be terrible on a board without O-Rings/Soft landing pads.

Maybe they would be better on a plateless board?

I think the general consensus is most people are buying them because they like the look and will swap a different spring into them. I'm not sure anyone plans on actually using them stock.

OR people need to learn to read and there will be many pissed off customers

I can't understand buying such light switches.

Personally I'm getting them just to try them out

[hwood34]

Does anyone have experience with using the top housing and stem of a gateron clear with the bottom housing of an mx switch compared to using the whole gateron switch? I am planning on putting some of these into my LZ and would potentially be able to avoid re-soldering.

well, since the added smoothness is entirely from the stem and top housing, it should feel and work the same

[inanis]

Does anyone have experience with using the top housing and stem of a gateron clear with the bottom housing of an mx switch compared to using the whole gateron switch? I am planning on putting some of these into my LZ and would potentially be able to avoid re-soldering.

well, since the added smoothness is entirely from the stem and top housing, it should feel and work the same

I just swapped out the stem and switch top between a Cherry Red and a Gateron Clear. In doing so, the switch with the Cherry bottom and original Red spring felt smoother than a typical Cherry Red.

[b7ad]

I just swapped out the stem and switch top between a Cherry Red and a Gateron Clear. In doing so, the switch with the Cherry bottom and original Red spring felt smoother than a typical Cherry Red.

thanks for giving it a go 

well, since the added smoothness is entirely from the stem and top housing, it should feel and work the same

yeah that's what I'm thinking. I think someone on the livestream said something about the contacts being bare on the gaterons, so maybe using a cherry bottom for the sake of longevity may even be beneficial, although of course it's hard to tell for sure at this point in time if that is true.

[samsonite727]

The declared amount for customs will default at either $20, or the actual amount if your order is less. PM Shadovved if you'd like to change the amount

Sorry for the confusion, but am I right to assume this message is for those individuals that have placed HUGE orders?

Edit. nvm, pm'd hwood and got a quick response. thanks

[exitfire401]

about to pay the invoice. Anyway I can confirm my address before these get shipped out?

Never received an invoice...did I miss something?

[whentheclouds]

hasn't all gone out yet

[Fire Brand]

about to pay the invoice. Anyway I can confirm my address before these get shipped out?

Never received an invoice...did I miss something?

Invoices will selectively start to go out now, the bulk will start happening Friday. Orders will still be open til the 12th and you stilll have til the 16th to pay invoices.

^

[hwood34]

Also, a select few of you might be seeing shipping corrections around shipping time. We don't expect to have very many of these and are pretty confident with our current pricing, and the change shouldn't be more than $1 or so

[ccc24]

Also, a select few of you might be seeing shipping corrections around shipping time. We don't expect to have very many of these and are pretty confident with our current pricing, and the change shouldn't be more than $1 or so

I got an an increase of 3.5, for a total of 13.5 for shipping and processing and I only ordered 150 switches. Just to make sure is that what the average rate is for shipping to California?

[hwood34]

Also, a select few of you might be seeing shipping corrections around shipping time. We don't expect to have very many of these and are pretty confident with our current pricing, and the change shouldn't be more than $1 or so

I got an an increase of 3.5, for a total of 13.5 for shipping and processing and I only ordered 150 switches. Just to make sure is that what the average rate is for shipping to California?

Yeah, sorry, the whole mass invoicing thing is new to me, I missed some things the first time around. I forgot to add the GB fee the first time around, so most people should be seeing that change

[ccc24]

Also, a select few of you might be seeing shipping corrections around shipping time. We don't expect to have very many of these and are pretty confident with our current pricing, and the change shouldn't be more than $1 or so

I got an an increase of 3.5, for a total of 13.5 for shipping and processing and I only ordered 150 switches. Just to make sure is that what the average rate is for shipping to California?

Yeah, sorry, the whole mass invoicing thing is new to me, I missed some things the first time around. I forgot to add the GB fee the first time around, so most people should be seeing that change

sounds good, no problem

[Lpwl]

That's not strictly related to this GB but PayPal exchange rate is kinda "wow"  : 1 EUR = 1,07269 USD

[exitfire401]

about to pay the invoice. Anyway I can confirm my address before these get shipped out?

Never received an invoice...did I miss something?

Invoices will selectively start to go out now, the bulk will start happening Friday. Orders will still be open til the 12th and you stilll have til the 16th to pay invoices.

^

Thank you for helping my selective eyes XD

[hwood34]

That's not strictly related to this GB but PayPal exchange rate is kinda "wow"  : 1 EUR = 1,07269 USD

Holy crap the eur is low

[VinnyCordeiro]

That's not strictly related to this GB but PayPal exchange rate is kinda "wow"  : 1 EUR = 1,07269 USD

Holy crap the eur is low

Or you can also say that the US dollar exchange is high.

PS: 1 BRL = 0.34 USD but I don't even care, this GB is too good to let it pass.

[ideus]

An update for the quantities would be very welcome, just before the end. Last minute orders may peak though.

[hwood34]

Done. Blacks are about to hit 30k . Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...

[Hak Foo]

Payment remitted.

[cmadrid]

Done. Blacks are about to hit 30k . Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...

No problem!  Just convert everyone's order to blacks

[hwood34]

Done. Blacks are about to hit 30k . Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...

No problem!  Just convert everyone's order to blacks

If only we were even at 100k total switches

[cmadrid]

Done. Blacks are about to hit 30k . Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...

No problem!  Just convert everyone's order to blacks

If only we were even at 100k total switches

We are getting close to 100k total! =)

[cmadrid]

Done. Blacks are about to hit 30k . Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...

No problem!  Just convert everyone's order to blacks

If only we were even at 100k total switches

We are getting close to 100k total! =)

Out of curiosity, what is the price break at 100k?

[hwood34]

Done. Blacks are about to hit 30k . Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...

No problem!  Just convert everyone's order to blacks

If only we were even at 100k total switches

We are getting close to 100k total! =)

Out of curiosity, what is the price break at 100k?

it drops from 0.99 yuan to 0.98, sooo a fraction of a cent

[leandre.north]

How long will this go on?

[nubbinator]

How long will this go on?

It's in the OP.

[leandre.north]

How long will this go on?

It's in the OP.

Thanks

[tbc]

I would imagine the 35g Clear Gaterons would be terrible on a board without O-Rings/Soft landing pads.

Maybe they would be better on a plateless board?

I think the general consensus is most people are buying them because they like the look and will swap a different spring into them. I'm not sure anyone plans on actually using them stock.

OR people need to learn to read and there will be many pissed off customers

I can't understand buying such light switches.

it's eerily similiar to a 30g topre. definitely different, but as close as 'mx' and topre are ever going to get.