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Title: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 March 2015, 00:08:23
The significance of this is that the potential "happiness" derived from Heroin is cheaper than that of "FOOD"

In Afghanistan, Milk = ~$1.00 USD 


A liter of milk isn't even close to the "reward-feels" of 1gram of heroin..


It illustrates that our fleshy emotions and pursuit of happiness has been completely subverted by human technological prowess




Happiness is a physical condition.. it's our only tangible evidence for having "done the right action"

But now that we can essentially fabricate this "evidence" cheaply in many forms, How then are we suppose to trust any and all motivation..


The opposite end of this is vulcanism,  yet, while their outward demeanor is clearly defined,  their base motivation is an impossibility and at best a paradox.



This really puts first world problems into perspective.. I am thoroughly ashamed of myself complaining that my microwave popcorn didn't fully pop today..


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Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: bueller on Wed, 25 March 2015, 00:12:39
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 March 2015, 00:17:57

You work for money..

You trade your time for "happiness" derived from that work.

be it in trade for,     -- sexy ladies, pizza, keyboards.. --



In the USA,  it's $110 per gram of heroin,  You can buy over 100 slices of pizza..

1 gram of heroin vs 100 slices of pizza..

In Afghanistan, it's $1.5 per gram of heroin,

1 gram of heroin vs 1 slice of pizza..


YOUR CHOICE..

If I was a "rational" person living in Afghanistan, I'd pick the heroin.
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 25 March 2015, 00:20:52

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Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: bueller on Wed, 25 March 2015, 00:26:34

You work for money..

You trade your time for "happiness" derived from that work.

be it in trade for,     -- sexy ladies, pizza, keyboards.. --



In the USA,  it's $110 per gram of heroin,  You can buy over 100 slices of pizza..

1 gram of heroin vs 100 slices of pizza..

In Afghanistan, it's $1.5 per gram of heroin,

1 gram of heroin vs 1 slice of pizza..


YOUR CHOICE..

If I was a "rational" person living in Afghanistan, I'd pick the heroin.

And?
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 March 2015, 00:29:07

You work for money..

You trade your time for "happiness" derived from that work.

be it in trade for,     -- sexy ladies, pizza, keyboards.. --



In the USA,  it's $110 per gram of heroin,  You can buy over 100 slices of pizza..

1 gram of heroin vs 100 slices of pizza..

In Afghanistan, it's $1.5 per gram of heroin,

1 gram of heroin vs 1 slice of pizza..


YOUR CHOICE..

If I was a "rational" person living in Afghanistan, I'd pick the heroin.

And?

and you should re-read the first post.
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 March 2015, 00:33:36
so.. 1000usd per capita

converted to potatoes, that's 1333.33kg worth..

or rather.. 1 million calories..  or 500 days worth of calories @ 2000 calories diet..


This makes it impossibly hard to decide between food or heroin.

Which would account for their now drug epidemic..

Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: Novus on Wed, 25 March 2015, 00:36:32
It's hard to tell potatoes from bunkers
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 March 2015, 00:37:23
It's hard to tell potatoes from bunkers

bunkers?  we won the war on terror, didn't you hear.
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: Novus on Wed, 25 March 2015, 00:43:38
More like the war on potatoes.
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: Novus on Wed, 25 March 2015, 00:45:24
Also obligatory post

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Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 25 March 2015, 00:50:50

You work for money..

You trade your time for "happiness" derived from that work.

be it in trade for,     -- sexy ladies, pizza, keyboards.. --



In the USA,  it's $110 per gram of heroin,  You can buy over 100 slices of pizza..

1 gram of heroin vs 100 slices of pizza..

In Afghanistan, it's $1.5 per gram of heroin,

1 gram of heroin vs 1 slice of pizza..


YOUR CHOICE..

If I was a "rational" person living in Afghanistan, I'd pick the heroin.

And?

literally this
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 March 2015, 00:59:53

You work for money..

You trade your time for "happiness" derived from that work.

be it in trade for,     -- sexy ladies, pizza, keyboards.. --



In the USA,  it's $110 per gram of heroin,  You can buy over 100 slices of pizza..

1 gram of heroin vs 100 slices of pizza..

In Afghanistan, it's $1.5 per gram of heroin,

1 gram of heroin vs 1 slice of pizza..


YOUR CHOICE..

If I was a "rational" person living in Afghanistan, I'd pick the heroin.

And?

literally this

literally, read the op
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 25 March 2015, 01:05:42

You work for money..

You trade your time for "happiness" derived from that work.

be it in trade for,     -- sexy ladies, pizza, keyboards.. --



In the USA,  it's $110 per gram of heroin,  You can buy over 100 slices of pizza..

1 gram of heroin vs 100 slices of pizza..

In Afghanistan, it's $1.5 per gram of heroin,

1 gram of heroin vs 1 slice of pizza..


YOUR CHOICE..

If I was a "rational" person living in Afghanistan, I'd pick the heroin.

And?

literally this

literally, read the op

(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljdhhoVIkt1qd1g7zo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 March 2015, 01:07:04
Cat Aids, probably cost more than heroin in Afghanistan.
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 25 March 2015, 01:09:09
Cat Aids, probably cost more than heroin in Afghanistan.

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Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 25 March 2015, 01:46:13
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Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 25 March 2015, 01:59:51
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Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: Novus on Wed, 25 March 2015, 02:05:16
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Well I quite like this one hahaha  :))
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: katushkin on Wed, 25 March 2015, 04:05:56
You realise it's that cheap there because it's grown there right? Everybody in Afghanistan grows Opium Poppy because it's the most profitable thing to grow. The government will pay you money to grow wheat, that's before you even sell it. So farmers grow wheat on the outside of their fields and poppy in the middle to get the money from the government and the money from the Taliban for the poppy.

Then we wonder why they don't like ISAF when we set fire to their poppy fields.

The point you are making, is like wondering why oil is cheaper in the USA, Saudi Arabia and Iraq than in the UK or France. It's made there, by the lowest bidder, and there is no transportation cost and limited production costs. It's the definition of supply and demand.
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: tbc on Wed, 25 March 2015, 04:24:07
You realise it's that cheap there because it's grown there right? Everybody in Afghanistan grows Opium Poppy because it's the most profitable thing to grow. The government will pay you money to grow wheat, that's before you even sell it. So farmers grow wheat on the outside of their fields and poppy in the middle to get the money from the government and the money from the Taliban for the poppy.

Then we wonder why they don't like ISAF when we set fire to their poppy fields.

The point you are making, is like wondering why oil is cheaper in the USA, Saudi Arabia and Iraq than in the UK or France. It's made there, by the lowest bidder, and there is no transportation cost and limited production costs. It's the definition of supply and demand.


so....where do they grow pizzas?

:p
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: paicrai on Wed, 25 March 2015, 04:34:33
check this cool car i found
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Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 25 March 2015, 08:53:30
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Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 March 2015, 11:31:46
You realise it's that cheap there because it's grown there right? Everybody in Afghanistan grows Opium Poppy because it's the most profitable thing to grow. The government will pay you money to grow wheat, that's before you even sell it. So farmers grow wheat on the outside of their fields and poppy in the middle to get the money from the government and the money from the Taliban for the poppy.

Then we wonder why they don't like ISAF when we set fire to their poppy fields.

The point you are making, is like wondering why oil is cheaper in the USA, Saudi Arabia and Iraq than in the UK or France. It's made there, by the lowest bidder, and there is no transportation cost and limited production costs. It's the definition of supply and demand.

Of course I realize that..  LOL..

I think the issue isn't the fact of growing heroin there, it's the lack of legislation and the subsequent power vacuum left when the American military pulled out.

If we look at Africa, the same thing happened when British imperialism collapsed..
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: JPG on Wed, 25 March 2015, 12:01:57
So at 1.50$ a gram in Afganistan and more than 100$ per gram in the U.S., the part that hits me the most is that there's definitely some abuse in the transportation industry. I mean, why charge like 50+$ to transport a single gram of stuff that is not a toxic dangerous chemical or nuclear?
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 March 2015, 12:07:32
So at 1.50$ a gram in Afganistan and more than 100$ per gram in the U.S., the part that hits me the most is that there's definitely some abuse in the transportation industry. I mean, why charge like 50+$ to transport a single gram of stuff that is not a toxic dangerous chemical or nuclear?

um... well having to bribe everyone along the way is probably the bulk of the cost..

The actual "shipping weight" is very low..  probably within 20 metric tons per year..

which is next to nothing vs total imports.
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: JPG on Wed, 25 March 2015, 12:30:59
So at 1.50$ a gram in Afganistan and more than 100$ per gram in the U.S., the part that hits me the most is that there's definitely some abuse in the transportation industry. I mean, why charge like 50+$ to transport a single gram of stuff that is not a toxic dangerous chemical or nuclear?

um... well having to bribe everyone along the way is probably the bulk of the cost..

The actual "shipping weight" is very low..  probably within 20 metric tons per year..

which is next to nothing vs total imports.


Well, I know that, it was just a joke while looking at this. It's obvious that the main cost comes form the fact that it's illegal...
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 March 2015, 12:39:36
So at 1.50$ a gram in Afganistan and more than 100$ per gram in the U.S., the part that hits me the most is that there's definitely some abuse in the transportation industry. I mean, why charge like 50+$ to transport a single gram of stuff that is not a toxic dangerous chemical or nuclear?

um... well having to bribe everyone along the way is probably the bulk of the cost..

The actual "shipping weight" is very low..  probably within 20 metric tons per year..

which is next to nothing vs total imports.


Well, I know that, it was just a joke while looking at this. It's obvious that the main cost comes form the fact that it's illegal...

The economics in these stricken countries is what's all wrong, FORCING them to choose heroin instead of food..


Hopefully this is just transitional and not endemic.. 


The current entire 5% of the population who are addicts in that country is pretty much doomed.. because they have no resources to save them in time.

relapse rate is 25% for users who've quit for 50 years...

Heroin is game breakingly addictive.

Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 March 2015, 12:52:40
So tp4...group buy?
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 March 2015, 12:59:28
So tp4...group buy?

....Cough.... Cough.........

I actually coughed when I read that.... hahahaha

because in the back of my mind.. I was evaluating,,, Dang, how much is a ticket to Afghanistan.
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: katushkin on Wed, 25 March 2015, 16:18:02
So what you're saying is... The pro-western government should have put legislation in place to control the flow and production of heroin?

Like, seriously? That's what you're saying?

So tp4...group buy?

....Cough.... Cough.........

I actually coughed when I read that.... hahahaha

because in the back of my mind.. I was evaluating,,, Dang, how much is a ticket to Afghanistan.

More than it's worth.
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 25 March 2015, 17:01:33
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Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: Novus on Wed, 25 March 2015, 17:17:45
So tp4...group buy?

....Cough.... Cough.........

I actually coughed when I read that.... hahahaha

because in the back of my mind.. I was evaluating,,, Dang, how much is a ticket to Afghanistan.

I know a guy that knows a guy that knows a gal that works in customs.
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 March 2015, 17:43:33
So what you're saying is... The pro-western government should have put legislation in place to control the flow and production of heroin?

Like, seriously? That's what you're saying?

So tp4...group buy?

....Cough.... Cough.........

I actually coughed when I read that.... hahahaha

because in the back of my mind.. I was evaluating,,, Dang, how much is a ticket to Afghanistan.

More than it's worth.

Not at all. I'm saying we can not entrust the direction of humanity to the " pursuit of happiness "
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: R1N3 on Wed, 25 March 2015, 18:11:44
Who here has abused opiates?
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: Touch_It on Wed, 25 March 2015, 18:14:21
@ op Oh ****, that's cheap milk
Title: Re: 1 Gram of Heroin is $1.50 usd in Afghanistan?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 March 2015, 18:23:56
Who here has abused opiates?


It's really hard to use the term abuse here.. because if we really look at it..  we were DESIGNED to chase as much of this "high" as possible, BY ANY MEANS..

it just happens that Opioid substance is SO GOOD, that it breaks homeostasis.