[IC] Mech27-TKLv2 | Made in Canada

[27]

I also don't understand the hard limit of 50 Keyboards with a MOQ of 50 or the need to have them manufactured locally at a higher price with lower quality then the first group buy.

27 covered this in his post, but how is this "lower quality?" If anything it's better. The price break to get the lowest price is at 50 units, and 27 thinks that doing any more would make it hard for him to handle the logistics of it. This was the main issue in round 1, and if I were 27, this is how I would do it as well.

but perhaps it would have been better to try and give the design over to another and let them run a proper group buy

And lose control over his own buy? This is just rude.

While time looks to be extremely quality almost Rolls Royce levels and its price is understandable.

So gaudy and overpriced (No offense to Senter, he's clearly put a lot of work into TIME TKL)? Comparing keyboards to cars is pretty lame, IMO. This isn't trying to be the best of the best. Mech27 V2 is basically a Jane with no weight, for half the aftermarket price. That's objectively a good deal.

This comes with out the brass weight. The case is more simple color selection is toned way way down from previous buy.

Duck's boards have no weight and 2-3 colors, people seem to like those. 356CL DGE only has one, and people pay more for that than almost anything else.

I just don't see it being worth anywhere close to the 400 dollars + shipping your asking.

Without revealing too much: I've seen the cost breakdown, and you'd be surprised by the price of machine time outside of China, especially in Canada/USA. The price is justified. 27 has been looking into how to reduce it, and there isn't much left to reduce.

But if there is a round 3 perhaps handing the original designs over to someone else to produce would be better solution.

And I thought I was rude...

tbf...... comparing this to 356 dge is a bit unfair even duck...

To be fair that was just on the point of colour selection.

[Signature]

GL 27 looks real clean

[Kafka]

Whats the angle? Same as Jane/V1?


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[27]

Whats the angle? Same as Jane/V1?


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Yupp, 8 degrees.  I'm working on some more flexible CAD so I can adjust the angle easily for future designs.

[Captain Shwah]

I just want to pop in and say that I'm ridiculously excited for v2. I wasn't around for v1 but a Mech27 has become one of my dream boards and the fact that this version is made in Canada makes it even more interesting.

Sure, a raffle is not as ideal as an unrestricted buy but 27's sanity is important too

[n0rvig]

So this ready raffle yet?  Looks so stunning.


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[bluesclera]

$400? its no wonder manufacturing is dead in north america. good luck.

[zekkin]

Hey 27, v2 looks great!

I have a v1 but was not part of the original GB. Any chance of a PCB and plate being offered separately? I've been itching to get a brass plate I'm this thing.

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[airs]

$400? its no wonder manufacturing is dead in north america. good luck.

Wut? Try comparing that cost with Korean customs.

[Puddsy]

$400? its no wonder manufacturing is dead in north america. good luck.

Wut? Try comparing that cost with Korean customs.

spoiler alert: it's the same

400 is about right for most TKLs

[Kafka]

I though GH was supposed to be more aware of prices and keyboards than reddit lol...

[Puddsy]

I though GH was supposed to be more aware of prices and keyboards than reddit lol...

lotta new people on here lately is all

the custom kit community is fairly small

[Sifo]

lol

[braidn]

I though GH was supposed to be more aware of prices and keyboards than reddit lol...

lotta new people on here lately is all

the custom kit community is fairly small

Couldn’t agree more with this.

[techfresh]

If not offering a weight, maybe design an insert on the inside so someone could run a custom weight GB like it’s done for Ducks?


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[whentheclouds]

a lot of things went wrong in v1 and a large part of that was allowing it to be overly complicated with colour combinations and a higher quantity

no surprise there. too many customization options is asking for trouble, case in point the E8-V1 GB

[Puddsy]

If not offering a weight, maybe design an insert on the inside so someone could run a custom weight GB like it’s done for Ducks?


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I'll talk to 27 about it, but don't hold your breath.

a lot of things went wrong in v1 and a large part of that was allowing it to be overly complicated with colour combinations and a higher quantity

no surprise there. too many customization options is asking for trouble, case in point the E8-V1 GB

Different issues.

[whentheclouds]

Different issues.

you seem to have an opinion on everything. good for you!

[skaloola]

No chance for Winkey layout?  Don't understand why the WKL layout is so popular, is it just aesthetics?  The look of the blockers + big spacebar?

I mainly use Linux/OSX and work in terminals/editors/IDEs all day, can't imagine life w/o command key (or function key on the other side).

Can't fathom why a Windows user would prefer not having a Winkey either.

Anyways, like this board and hoping there will be a Winkey option.

[Puddsy]

No chance for Winkey layout?

As far as I've talked to 27, correct.

Don't understand why the WKL layout is so popular, is it just aesthetics?  The look of the blockers + big spacebar?

Yes.

I mainly use Linux/OSX and work in terminals/editors/IDEs all day, can't imagine life w/o command key (or function key on the other side).

It's fully programmable. You can remap it and program in macros with Jigon, should this go forward with TX87 PCB.

Can't fathom why a Windows user would prefer not having a Winkey either.

I remap it to right control, since I don't use it very often. I map FN to pause if I don't need it. If I don't, I map it to right alt.

Sometimes I remap things into the nav cluster, since I don't use it very much, either.

[lshlsh1995]

$400? its no wonder manufacturing is dead in north america. good luck.

It is about the same for all the TKL keyboard. Take a look at those expensive keycaps, they are expensive! Even keycaps from Vietnam like JellyKey is pricey too. (People used to think Made in China stuff were cheap, but now people are thinking that at least Made in China is better than Made in Vietnam, though Made in Italy stuff is still the luxury. BTW, I am just saying what I hear and I don't think I am discriminating against Vietnam, and I do think some keycaps from Vietnam look soooo good........)

Titanium Keyboard kits are much much more expensive. They are like about $1000-2000 even from Asian countries. The good thing about them is you can always get unique design with your own taste. I mean you can ask the designer to even make it shinier than a Corsair.... But titanum is a good metal and pricey than silver anyway, so many Koreans are buying them. They are mainly from China and Koreans start to buy them from China.

[shower_king]

Appreciate and understand raffle

[afrokobe]

$400? its no wonder manufacturing is dead in north america. good luck.

It is about the same for all the TKL keyboard. Take a look at those expensive keycaps, they are expensive! Even keycaps from Vietnam like JellyKey is pricey too. (People used to think Made in China stuff were cheap, but now people are thinking that at least Made in China is better than Made in Vietnam, though Made in Italy stuff is still the luxury. BTW, I am just saying what I hear and I don't think I am discriminating against Vietnam, and I do think some keycaps from Vietnam look soooo good........)

Titanium Keyboard kits are much much more expensive. They are like about $1000-2000 even from Asian countries. The good thing about them is you can always get unique design with your own taste. I mean you can ask the designer to even make it shinier than a Corsair.... But titanum is a good metal and pricey than silver anyway, so many Koreans are buying them. They are mainly from China and Koreans start to buy them from China.

wat

where are these titanium keyboards lol

[dblack]

$400? its no wonder manufacturing is dead in north america. good luck.

It is about the same for all the TKL keyboard. Take a look at those expensive keycaps, they are expensive! Even keycaps from Vietnam like JellyKey is pricey too. (People used to think Made in China stuff were cheap, but now people are thinking that at least Made in China is better than Made in Vietnam, though Made in Italy stuff is still the luxury. BTW, I am just saying what I hear and I don't think I am discriminating against Vietnam, and I do think some keycaps from Vietnam look soooo good........)

Titanium Keyboard kits are much much more expensive. They are like about $1000-2000 even from Asian countries. The good thing about them is you can always get unique design with your own taste. I mean you can ask the designer to even make it shinier than a Corsair.... But titanum is a good metal and pricey than silver anyway, so many Koreans are buying them. They are mainly from China and Koreans start to buy them from China.

wat

where are these titanium keyboards lol

on ur spaceship

[27]

Hey everyone!

I've received quotes for the PCB. I will be using the TX87 PCB, which uses Jigon as a mapping tool/firmware.

I'm also waiting to hear back from my local manufacturer to see if they can produce the brass plates, but if they can not they will refer me to another local manufacturer that can.

In the coming week I'll be building the prototype with a V1 plate and will make sure to take plenty of pictures of the process.

Thanks for the support.

[clappingcactus]

Excited to see pics!

[OfTheWild]

Is there no other option for TKL PCB's besides the Jigon based ones? I would love for some QMK

[Puddsy]

Is there no other option for TKL PCB's besides the Jigon based ones? I would love for some QMK

At current, not anything easily available.

Snowpro exists, but it virtually impossible to get outside of Korea. I'm pretty sure that it's not QMK, either.

I've heard rumors that there is a QMK A.87 PCB in the works, but it's still a ways off.

[27]

Is there no other option for TKL PCB's besides the Jigon based ones? I would love for some QMK

At current, not anything easily available.

Snowpro exists, but it virtually impossible to get outside of Korea. I'm pretty sure that it's not QMK, either.

I've heard rumors that there is a QMK A.87 PCB in the works, but it's still a ways off.

Basically I'm not in a position to have my own pcbs manufactured, so QMK is off the table unless someone is willing to port QMK to the TX87 pcb.

[DreLLin]

Is there no other option for TKL PCB's besides the Jigon based ones? I would love for some QMK

There is a TMK fork for L3 PCBs https://github.com/xauser/tmk_keyboard/tree/xauser

[poolside]

Will the V1 plates be compatible with the V2 ones?

[27]

Will the V1 plates be compatible with the V2 ones?

Yes, they will.

[zekkin]

Hey 27, v2 looks great!

I have a v1 but was not part of the original GB. Any chance of a PCB and plate being offered separately? I've been itching to get a brass plate I'm this thing.

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Just quoting myself as I don't think my question was seen...

[27]

Hey 27, v2 looks great!

I have a v1 but was not part of the original GB. Any chance of a PCB and plate being offered separately? I've been itching to get a brass plate I'm this thing.

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Just quoting myself as I don't think my question was seen...

I'm not sure if I'll be able to offer individual parts due to that increasing the amount of sorting, packaging, and shipping that would be required.  I'll have a better idea at GB launch.

[27]

Better pictures will come in the next couple of days!

[idlemao]

Better pictures will come in the next couple of days!

Now I want this even more. But now I'm conflicted between the blue or the silver here, which looks so great with the GMK 9009 I'm getting soon.

[Puddsy]

Better pictures will come in the next couple of days!

Now I want this even more. But now I'm conflicted between the blue or the silver here, which looks so great with the GMK 9009 I'm getting soon.

9009 goes with everything

[Photekq]

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[bbmathlvr]

This looks really good. Fingers crossed that this can be my first quality custom MX board 

[clappingcactus]

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[Slopes]

You had piqued my interest until I saw the price and then the raffle completely killed any interest I did have.

you're telling me you don't want to spend 400USD on a keyboard case? you're crazy.

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[27]

Bringing it back on topic.




I'm just putting together the final details, GB thread should be up tonight, tomorrow at latest.

[avid]

Wow, love that color. Is that silver or grey?

[27]

Wow, love that color. Is that silver or grey?

That's silver, grey won't be offered for this run.

[Koobaczech]

GL with your buy sir! I'm still in for a V1 btw ;]

[27]

GB thread is awaiting approval 

[27]

GB is live!
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92451