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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #50 on: Sun, 04 January 2015, 18:47:35 »
whelp I bought it. Everything in silver. Now I need to buy some clear switches, stickers and korean springs.
Did you take a 180¥  options from this page ?
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.h25kwe&id=43315221628

All soldering is done besides switches ?

Like SuperBobKing , I'm interested in every info we can have on the programmability of this .

I did get the 180 version. I believe it it determines the thickness of the metal. as you can get 3 cheaper thinner metal tops and stack them to get the layered look.

Super excited to see your finished build  :thumb:

I am excited to! This will be my first time building a complete keyboard. I have been eye balling this layout since I have seen it on the LZ boards. I am torn between vintage blacks or ergo clears though. I have vintage blacks on my poker and love them. But heard so many great things of ergo clears.

As someone who loves both vintage blacks and ergo clears, go with vintage blacks. They're much smoother.
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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #51 on: Sun, 04 January 2015, 18:48:56 »
Is the topcase strictly speaking 'necessary'? Looks like it isn't providing any additional support to the switches or structural support to the case, just is a top layer for the case which allows for countersunk screws, etc. Makes me wonder if you couldn't just use a nut.

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #52 on: Sun, 04 January 2015, 18:55:24 »
Is the topcase strictly speaking 'necessary'? Looks like it isn't providing any additional support to the switches or structural support to the case, just is a top layer for the case which allows for countersunk screws, etc. Makes me wonder if you couldn't just use a nut.

Doesn't look necessary. There are screws that hold own the PCB. Only reason you would need the top was if you wanted it to look a little better. Otherwise, just having the bottom case on would look akin to a low profile poker case.
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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #53 on: Sun, 04 January 2015, 18:58:30 »
Doesn't look necessary. There are screws that hold own the PCB. Only reason you would need the top was if you wanted it to look a little better. Otherwise, just having the bottom case on would look akin to a low profile poker case.

Great, that is what I was hoping.

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #54 on: Sun, 04 January 2015, 21:08:21 »
So I prepared my order on taobaofocus for this :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43280250305 500¥ option
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43315221628 180¥ option
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43280594282
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43228379649 , I assume one item is a pack of 4 ?

Before I order it can a chinese speaker confirm that all the soldering job (besides switches ) is done on the PCB ?
Also is there any information on the programmability of the keyboard in the description of the item (first link) ?
all the soldering job (besides switches ) on the PCB,Manual publish later.

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #55 on: Sun, 04 January 2015, 23:02:48 »
So I prepared my order on taobaofocus for this :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43280250305 500¥ option
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43315221628 180¥ option
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43280594282
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43228379649 , I assume one item is a pack of 4 ?

Before I order it can a chinese speaker confirm that all the soldering job (besides switches ) is done on the PCB ?
Also is there any information on the programmability of the keyboard in the description of the item (first link) ?
all the soldering job (besides switches ) on the PCB,Manual publish later.

Are you the seller? :)

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #56 on: Sun, 04 January 2015, 23:49:17 »
Hope for a GH GB of those
same here, too lazy to order it all separately from taobao and also having a GH saves shipping for everyone.

Wish we could have cool keyboards like this made and sold as a community.
does no-one remember the skeldon? Other than the teensy, everything was designed here on GH by GHers. The case was even made in America! I guess everyone else was busy buying the LZGH instead :/

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #57 on: Mon, 05 January 2015, 00:59:10 »
So I prepared my order on taobaofocus for this :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43280250305 500¥ option
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43315221628 180¥ option
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43280594282
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43228379649 , I assume one item is a pack of 4 ?

Before I order it can a chinese speaker confirm that all the soldering job (besides switches ) is done on the PCB ?
Also is there any information on the programmability of the keyboard in the description of the item (first link) ?
all the soldering job (besides switches ) on the PCB,Manual publish later.
Thanks for the answer . Definitely ordering one , looking forward for the manual , in the meantime , can you give us an idea about the possibility of the PCB .
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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #58 on: Mon, 05 January 2015, 02:30:58 »
I'm looking into getting something organized, at least for US buyer. If nothing else will be able to ship all together then redistribute.

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #59 on: Mon, 05 January 2015, 02:40:12 »
I'm looking into getting something organized, at least for US buyer. If nothing else will be able to ship all together then redistribute.

That would be great if you could get something organized, thanks Ivan! :)

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #60 on: Mon, 05 January 2015, 10:40:39 »
I'm looking into getting something organized, at least for US buyer. If nothing else will be able to ship all together then redistribute.

Awesome :D

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #61 on: Mon, 05 January 2015, 12:08:06 »
Ordered through TaobaoFocus , 180$ total and i took extras , really worth .
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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #62 on: Mon, 05 January 2015, 12:30:27 »
A note on the keycaps, since Bromono asked me.

I believe Tai Hao's add on set will fit the nonstandard keys on the red scarf very well. You should only have to use a blank to substitute for the 0 key.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58110.0

Harry has lots of spare sets that he can sell for cheap.

I see a good win win solution here.

I think there's a
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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #63 on: Mon, 05 January 2015, 12:58:38 »
The board is also compatible with other layouts that are more common as well. The taobao page for the plate shows some, and IIRC it is compatible with a standard ansi layout.

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #64 on: Mon, 05 January 2015, 13:36:05 »
just noticed it's the same layout as lightsaver (awesome layout!) I was sort of hoping it'd be missing the function row like the red scarf II

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #65 on: Mon, 05 January 2015, 14:24:24 »
I particularly like support for split backspace which is not something the Lightsaver has.
« Last Edit: Mon, 05 January 2015, 14:38:20 by geniekid »

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #66 on: Mon, 05 January 2015, 20:58:31 »
Looks like will only have about a 1 week window to get in orders for me to do US proxy/mini groupbuy for the groupbuy.

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #67 on: Mon, 05 January 2015, 21:03:33 »
Looks like will only have about a 1 week window to get in orders for me to do US proxy/mini groupbuy for the groupbuy.
Please do, just showed this to my friend who is looking for a new keyboard, and he fell in love with it.

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #68 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 00:30:33 »
Yeah, just trying to clear up some detail. Hope to have a buy thread up tomorrow sometime.

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #69 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 02:38:21 »
Oh wow, this is a masterful creation.

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #70 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 12:44:38 »
US buyers, I am offering a proxy service. See here if interested.

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #71 on: Tue, 24 February 2015, 07:35:56 »
Received today it looks great, anyone figured how to program it ?
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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #72 on: Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:34:27 »
Received today it looks great, anyone figured how to program it ?


Pictures!  ;D

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #73 on: Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:46:18 »
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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #74 on: Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:34:57 »
Received today it looks great, anyone figured how to program it ?


Pictures!  ;D
you can find some potatoes here : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1655704#msg1655704

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #75 on: Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:57:28 »
Received today it looks great, anyone figured how to program it ?


Pictures!  ;D
you can find some potatoes here : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1655704#msg1655704


Nice! Looking good. :) When are you going to build it up?

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #76 on: Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:58:44 »
Received today it looks great, anyone figured how to program it ?


Pictures!  ;D
you can find some potatoes here : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1655704#msg1655704


Nice! Looking good. :) When are you going to build it up?
next week, gotta lube and spring those gateron clears first !
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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #77 on: Tue, 24 February 2015, 15:03:27 »
People are getting theirs already? Damn, Buychina still has mine listed as 'processing'... *mutters*

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #78 on: Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:23:32 »
I hate to sound stupid but how much is 550.00 ¥ to dollars or gbp?
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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #79 on: Tue, 24 February 2015, 17:51:20 »
I hate to sound stupid but how much is 550.00 ¥ to dollars or gbp?
88.04 USD and 56.98 GBP , you can google it " 550.00Y to USD or GBP"

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #80 on: Wed, 25 February 2015, 07:51:57 »
I did that but it just seemed hella cheap. I don't know how the fk to work TaoBao though. I'll have a word with JD or someone tonight. Thanks for the help.
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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #81 on: Wed, 25 February 2015, 07:55:22 »
Make sure not to mix up Japanese Yen and Chinese Yuan when getting the conversion rates.
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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #82 on: Wed, 25 February 2015, 07:56:20 »
I did that but it just seemed hella cheap. I don't know how the fk to work TaoBao though. I'll have a word with JD or someone tonight. Thanks for the help.
pm me if you need infos I ordered through a proxy and it landed safely in France yesterday (took about 6 weeks to get it there).
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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #83 on: Wed, 25 February 2015, 07:57:44 »
Received today it looks great, anyone figured how to program it ?

I am going to need to program it as well. Have you got any info on this?

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #84 on: Wed, 25 February 2015, 08:04:31 »
Received today it looks great, anyone figured how to program it ?

I am going to need to program it as well. Have you got any info on this?
I got hold on a chinese manual, I'll try to make a comprehensive english manual soon.
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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #85 on: Thu, 19 March 2015, 02:41:27 »
Damnit. Proxy cocked up, they didnt even order the bloody thing. Now out of stock :/
Any suggestions on alternatives that I can check out from Taobao? I would rather just use the money to try something similar, than muck about with refunds and such, if I can. Unless somebody has a spare from Ivan's GB that they don't mind sending to AUS?

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #86 on: Thu, 19 March 2015, 03:54:56 »
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69409.0
lightsaverII round 2 , not the same price range though.
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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #87 on: Thu, 19 March 2015, 03:58:44 »
I appreciate the heads up, but you are right, the price range is a bit high. Might just get the refund and put it towards some more tools, unless there are any more suggestions. Decisions decisions.

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #88 on: Thu, 19 March 2015, 04:12:52 »
RS84: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69064.0
Not quite the same form factor but worth a look.
Taobao links in the thread above.
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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #89 on: Thu, 19 March 2015, 04:21:35 »
Much obliged. I had thought there was another design doing the rounds, but couldn't remember what it was. I was looking forward to the version with the numpad, though, seeing as I have already got a Kaliet board with a similar layout (build log is in the workshop section).
Thanks regardless :)

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #90 on: Tue, 12 May 2015, 19:34:56 »
Does anyone know if these are still available?

I would love to get one. I added the 4 necessary items on TaoFocus, but I'm not sure if it includes the PCB.

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #91 on: Wed, 29 July 2015, 00:02:34 »
I'm curious as well if these are still available.

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #92 on: Wed, 29 July 2015, 22:16:18 »
I also want one.

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #93 on: Fri, 31 July 2015, 03:07:04 »
"Red Scarf"? Who names these things, Pierre Cardin?
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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #94 on: Mon, 10 August 2015, 19:50:47 »
I'm interested in getting the RS96 kit but I live in eastern U.S., how would I go about getting one of these from Taobao. I only know English as well so that is a huge setback for me.
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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #95 on: Mon, 10 August 2015, 20:23:03 »

I'm interested in getting the RS96 kit but I live in eastern U.S., how would I go about getting one of these from Taobao. I only know English as well so that is a huge setback for me.


My proxy still has my money from the cock-up earlier, figured the refund was a hassle.. No luck finding any listings, myself, so let me know if you find anything.

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #96 on: Fri, 21 August 2015, 22:19:09 »
Hi, I just found this on taobao  :rolleyes:
http://tw.taobao.com/item/520774665151.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a1z10.5-c.w4002-9310869294.27.9LEufc
BY 84? it's what kind pcb?
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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #97 on: Tue, 22 November 2016, 11:25:41 »
Sorry to necro thread but I see this board is on MD now, I'm concerned it has alu plate, does the plate flex?  I tried a LZRV with an alu plate and I thought it was very unsturdy and it flexed, so I switched tot steel, I'm concerned this board is like that because it has an alu plate.  Anyone have this board and can tell me?  Is it as sturdy (that is it does not flex when you type) as OEM boards with steel plates?
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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #98 on: Tue, 22 November 2016, 19:56:52 »
Sorry to necro thread but I see this board is on MD now, I'm concerned it has alu plate, does the plate flex?  I tried a LZRV with an alu plate and I thought it was very unsturdy and it flexed, so I switched tot steel, I'm concerned this board is like that because it has an alu plate.  Anyone have this board and can tell me?  Is it as sturdy (that is it does not flex when you type) as OEM boards with steel plates?

I'm not sure about the LZRV, but if it's like the LZGH this should be a lot stiffer, even with alu plate. The reason is that the PCB bolts directly to the bottom case, so the bottom part of the case acts like a "plate" underneath it. The upper plate being aluminium really just acts to stabilize the switches with respect to eachother. For keyboards that hang from the plate, plate material makes a big dufference (this is why I had a one-off steel plate made for my skeldon), but I bet you could run this without a plate at all and it'd be good. I tried my lightsaver that way when I was rebuilding it once and it was just fine.

With a PCB sandwitched between two plates it should be quite stiff. Not sure if the rest of the build is to your liking, but that aspect should be ok. Most steel plate OEM boards the pcb hands from the plate also, so this is a different construction from that even.

Now I will yield to anyone who has firsthand experience with the board, but that's how it should shake out in principle. If you want a good KB like this with a steel plate, why not get a duck lightsaver? it's the same layout, similar construction (PCB bolts to case) and has a stainless steel plate already.

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Re: red scarf III
« Reply #99 on: Wed, 23 November 2016, 03:51:26 »
What are those prices on taobao.com? Surely it's not reflecting the actual price.