Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 08 March 2018, 16:32:54
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Hello, and welcome to MEME.
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Now, I've never made or run a keyboard group buy before, but I do have limited experience in running group buys, having run a couple in preparation for something bigger, like this. I currently operate switchmod.net.
MEME is a gasket-mounted 65% that pulled quite a bit of aesthetic inspiration largely from the look of Topre Realforce boards. The board was originally meant as a one-or two-off, but due to the financial unfeasibility of the entire circumstance, I decided to run it as a group buy. However, I have mostly maintained the design choices that were made, and will not change the board any further than I have up until now, bar some small improvements along the way.
The board features:
6061 anodized aluminumA QMK-Compatible PCBAn anodized 6061 aluminum badge that is able to be screwed out and replaced as accent pieces. The badge will feature the word "meme," but a blank variant will also be available.Two replaceable daughterboard pcbs, one USB-mini and one USB-C, which can be interchanged.An anodized aluminum plate that supports switchtop removal8 Custom made Silicone GasketsM65-A rubber feet
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The MEME will be machined and anodized in the United States. I think it's important to be able to maintain constant contact with my machinist and have them understand me 100%. I believe that this will also vastly expedite the wait times and any issues can be addressed much faster.
I am currently working on having a prototype made, so I will just put my to-do list here:
Finish Board DesignFinish PCB DesignContact Elastomer Company regarding gaskets- 3/13/2018
Put in order for prototype PCBS - 3/23/2018
Receiveand test prototype pcbs Start machining the prototype caseAssemble the prototype boardRun the group buy.
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More Renders: https://www.flickr.com/photos/102874444@N07/sets/72157691556531834
Thank you for your continued interest in my project.
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Update 4 - 4/4/2018:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94467.msg2588080#msg2588080 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94467.msg2588080#msg2588080)
We've rectified our issues but will need new prototype pcbs. +1 1/2 week to project time while those arrive.
Thanks to Wilba for helping us out with our troubles, and for a hookup.
Gasket Status: In production.
PCB color will be picked from the strawpoll at the end of the IC.
Update 4/30/2018: oof
I'm going back to the drawing board a bit to see if I can make any changes that lower the price at all.
I am also now considering overseas manufacturing, but as a complete newbie in the field, I don't know where to go and what to use. As a student with finals week approaching, I don't even really have the time to look into it at the moment.
What do you guys think of this change in plans?
PS: If you've got another source I could look into for machining, let me know.
PPS: Also considering running 2 cases and ending the project.
5/10/2018: Project Death
I've moved manufacture of this project to the East, and thus, the original intent of getting a very low quantity buy can be re-fulfilled. 2-5 MEMEs will be made, and none will be available publicly.
This post marks the death of the project for the public.
This has certainly been a learning experience and I will take everything into my next project, which will also be not only gasket mounted, but also cheaper.
Thank you for your continued interest in the project.
Apologies for those of you who I accidentally hyped.
Krelbit, Switchmod.net.
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 08 March 2018, 16:36:08
I'd love to hear more about the usage of gasket mount as this progresses.
Will the PCB be easily replaceable despite being custom?
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Post by: Cavemann6 on Thu, 08 March 2018, 16:36:11
Post by: anthorix on Thu, 08 March 2018, 16:37:05
Post by: dyrdevil on Thu, 08 March 2018, 16:37:30
Price seems a little on the high side for me
Will different colors be possible?
Post by: Zambumon on Thu, 08 March 2018, 16:37:43
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 08 March 2018, 16:38:17
Lovely rendering and detailed IC opening post. I will be interested depending on financial ability.
I'd love to hear more about the usage of gasket mount as this progresses.
Will the PCB be easily replaceable despite being custom?
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Sadly, it is a fairly nonstandard pcb, as it uses JST connectors to branch onto the daughterboard. Extras will be offered at group buy.
:thumb: nice byron
Thanks, chravez.
Post by: Remsky on Thu, 08 March 2018, 16:38:50
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 08 March 2018, 16:42:01
hell ye, more gasket mount keebs pls
hell ye
Really like the option between mini and C. Definitely interested. :thumb:
Thank you!
I really like the look of this.
Price seems a little on the high side for me
Will different colors be possible?
Sorry it's a bit too expensive! The gasket mounting and the badge, which I consider to be the two main features of the board, are kind of a pain to machine and therefore cost quite a bit more.
Different colors will be available.
Post by: mgsickler on Thu, 08 March 2018, 16:44:20
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Post by: bluesclera on Thu, 08 March 2018, 16:50:14
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 08 March 2018, 16:54:22
Guess i'm the only one that doesn't know what a gasket mount is?
the plate is held in place by rubber gaskets as opposed to screws
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Thu, 08 March 2018, 17:17:27
disappointed you did not keep the original name of penisboardHoney pls. Ghetto gasket mount is the way to go.. rubber o-rings on the screw mounts (think, same way as a washer on a screw)Guess i'm the only one that doesn't know what a gasket mount is?
the plate is held in place by rubber gaskets as opposed to screws
Works like a charm on an acrylic board.. probably not so well trying to fit inside a sandwich style alu case
Edit: this board well inspired. Will be good :thumb:
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 08 March 2018, 17:19:26
Count me in man. Good work and I really like the gasket mounts. Pretty nice.
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Thanks, Mike! Love ya.
Guess i'm the only one that doesn't know what a gasket mount is?
The plate will be held in place with silicone gaskets, rather than screws. This results in a really tight and secure friction fit for the plate.
disappointed you did not keep the original name of penisboard
Pls, that wasn't even the real name.
disappointed you did not keep the original name of penisboardHoney pls. Ghetto gasket mount is the way to go.. rubber o-rings on the screw mounts (think, same way as a washer on a screw)Guess i'm the only one that doesn't know what a gasket mount is?
the plate is held in place by rubber gaskets as opposed to screws
Works like a charm on an acrylic board.. probably not so well trying to fit inside a sandwich style alu case
Edit: this board well inspired. Will be good :thumb:
Cheers!
Post by: xondat on Thu, 08 March 2018, 17:25:06
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 08 March 2018, 17:32:02
Post by: YisSerL on Thu, 08 March 2018, 17:44:28
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 08 March 2018, 17:47:35
this upsets me greatly and I will get one
xoxo
I'm super excited to be a part of this project!
I'm super excited to be a part of this project too.
This looks great. Hopefully can be lucky enough when the raffle time comes.
Thanks!
Post by: olivia on Thu, 08 March 2018, 17:58:35
Post by: mago on Thu, 08 March 2018, 18:23:51
Post by: Kevadu on Thu, 08 March 2018, 19:06:57
...wish it had costar support though :(
Post by: xondat on Thu, 08 March 2018, 19:16:49
Clean but attractive. I like it.
...wish it had costar support though :(
Get on it hiney/krel, this is true meme status
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 08 March 2018, 19:20:01
I love it more than love itself <2
<2
Really nice looking board :cool:
Thank you!
Clean but attractive. I like it.
...wish it had costar support though :(
costar is a sin and you should feel bad
Clean but attractive. I like it.
...wish it had costar support though :(
Get on it hiney/krel, this is true meme status
no pls
Post by: xondat on Thu, 08 March 2018, 19:22:53
Clean but attractive. I like it.
...wish it had costar support though :(
Get on it hiney/krel, this is true meme status
no pls
don't be a cat
Post by: nguyenhimself on Thu, 08 March 2018, 19:31:13
But please OP, please consider changing the name :confused:
There's no way in hell am I going to tolerate seeing the word "meme" whenever I look down on my keyboard :-X
Laugh if you want, but yeah, serious deal-breaker for me :[
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 08 March 2018, 19:48:33
I like it. This is in fact what I thought the Norbaforce would end up looking like.
But please OP, please consider changing the name :confused:
There's no way in hell am I going to tolerate seeing the word "meme" whenever I look down on my keyboard :-X
Laugh if you want, but yeah, serious deal-breaker for me :[
Blank badges will be available. :p
You'll still have to call it your MEME, though.
Post by: Manticzeus on Thu, 08 March 2018, 19:59:19
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 08 March 2018, 20:06:44
Any possibility of an option for blocked corners?
I don't see it as an improvement.
So no.
Post by: Sshimosawa on Thu, 08 March 2018, 20:29:20
Post by: Kevadu on Thu, 08 March 2018, 20:52:29
Clean but attractive. I like it.
...wish it had costar support though :(
costar is a sin and you should feel bad
I do feel bad. I feel bad for all the poor souls out there who can't experience the glory that is costar and are suffering under the oppression of awful cherry stabs.
Post by: afrokobe on Thu, 08 March 2018, 21:14:47
I'm super excited you're super excited to be a part of your own projectthis upsets me greatly and I will get one
xoxoI'm super excited to be a part of this project!
I'm super excited to be a part of this project too.This looks great. Hopefully can be lucky enough when the raffle time comes.
Thanks!
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 08 March 2018, 21:26:32
So down
Thanks!
I'm super excited you're super excited to be a part of your own projectthis upsets me greatly and I will get one
xoxoI'm super excited to be a part of this project!
I'm super excited to be a part of this project too.This looks great. Hopefully can be lucky enough when the raffle time comes.
Thanks!
I'm super excited that you're super excited for me to be super excited to be part of my own project
Post by: yuppie on Thu, 08 March 2018, 21:59:18
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 08 March 2018, 22:11:22
Post by: Harms on Fri, 09 March 2018, 01:30:01
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Fri, 09 March 2018, 02:12:33
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 09 March 2018, 05:21:34
Post by: amnesia0287 on Fri, 09 March 2018, 05:27:12
Very najs. Why gaskets on the top as opposed to the bottom of the plate? I've wondered if it would change how it feels, potentially a little softer? Though that might depend a bit on how tight if a fit it is.
If the gasket is on the bottom then it can be compressed which could produce some awful sounds since the plate could start tapping on the top case.
Post by: typischt on Fri, 09 March 2018, 06:03:01
There is no ISO support, correct?
Post by: Krelbit on Fri, 09 March 2018, 09:00:32
You have my support.
You have my love.
Oh man, this looks too good to pass up. That black with the blue badge... right when Blue on Black is shipping. You nasty, nasty man.
Honestly I have no idea that set existed until now.
All you need is to make this TKL and the world will be a better place.
Half the inspiration came from the KeyCult No. 1, which is a gasket mounted tkl. The creator, riotonthebay, even helped out with giving me a source to get gaskets from! Check it out if you haven't yet seen it. I'll probably only ever make 65%s, because it's the only layout I use.
Very najs. Why gaskets on the top as opposed to the bottom of the plate? I've wondered if it would change how it feels, potentially a little softer? Though that might depend a bit on how tight if a fit it is.
If the tolerances aren't 100% on point we'd probably have rattle issues when putting the gaskets on the bottom.
This looks super nice!Thank you!
There is no ISO support, correct?
I believe ISO and ANSI should have seperate pcbs and plates. A combined PCB/plate, in my opinion, compromises switch feel and overall stability for the appeasement of a smaller audience. If I were more confident in myself, I would expand the group buy to a possible 60 units with another group buy (and MOQ of 30) for the ISO version, but only if the ISO variant could hit MOQ, which I don't believe it can on its own. Therefore, there is no, and will never be, ISO support on my boards.
Post by: Rob27shred on Fri, 09 March 2018, 09:21:29
Post by: Krelbit on Fri, 09 March 2018, 10:18:29
Hex or Phillips?
Post by: xondat on Fri, 09 March 2018, 10:23:28
Well, I've happened upon a first crossroad. Having never run a keyboard group buy before, I honestly don't know which type of screw is more popular in the community!
Hex or Phillips?
Aesthetic: hex, slot, phillips
Function: slot, phillips, hex
If it strips, good luck getting a hex out easily :'( :'(
Post by: Krelbit on Fri, 09 March 2018, 10:34:08
Well, I've happened upon a first crossroad. Having never run a keyboard group buy before, I honestly don't know which type of screw is more popular in the community!
Hex or Phillips?
Aesthetic: hex, slot, phillips
Function: slot, phillips, hex
If it strips, good luck getting a hex out easily :'( :'(
I've certainly been there...
Would using different screw heads for different places (like, slot for the badge and hex/phillips for the main body) be a good idea?
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Fri, 09 March 2018, 10:43:59
Well, I've happened upon a first crossroad. Having never run a keyboard group buy before, I honestly don't know which type of screw is more popular in the community!
Hex or Phillips?
Aesthetic: hex, slot, phillips
Function: slot, phillips, hex
If it strips, good luck getting a hex out easily :'( :'(
I've certainly been there...
Would using different screw heads for different places (like, slot for the badge and hex/phillips for the main body) be a good idea?
Personally I prefer hex. However i like having matching sizes throughout which can be tricky using hex. I think Phillips is possibly the best in that regard, especially since you don’t really need to crank down on them in this sort of application.
Post by: yookwh on Fri, 09 March 2018, 11:06:15
Post by: sony on Fri, 09 March 2018, 11:10:39
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 09 March 2018, 14:16:05
Well, I've happened upon a first crossroad. Having never run a keyboard group buy before, I honestly don't know which type of screw is more popular in the community!
Hex or Phillips?
Aesthetic: hex, slot, phillips
Function: slot, phillips, hex
If it strips, good luck getting a hex out easily :'( :'(
I've certainly been there...
Would using different screw heads for different places (like, slot for the badge and hex/phillips for the main body) be a good idea?
hex > all
Post by: Krelbit on Fri, 09 March 2018, 14:44:45
Well, I've happened upon a first crossroad. Having never run a keyboard group buy before, I honestly don't know which type of screw is more popular in the community!
Hex or Phillips?
Aesthetic: hex, slot, phillips
Function: slot, phillips, hex
If it strips, good luck getting a hex out easily :'( :'(
I've certainly been there...
Would using different screw heads for different places (like, slot for the badge and hex/phillips for the main body) be a good idea?
Personally I prefer hex. However i like having matching sizes throughout which can be tricky using hex. I think Phillips is possibly the best in that regard, especially since you don’t really need to crank down on them in this sort of application.
Well, I've happened upon a first crossroad. Having never run a keyboard group buy before, I honestly don't know which type of screw is more popular in the community!
Hex or Phillips?
Aesthetic: hex, slot, phillips
Function: slot, phillips, hex
If it strips, good luck getting a hex out easily :'( :'(
I've certainly been there...
Would using different screw heads for different places (like, slot for the badge and hex/phillips for the main body) be a good idea?
hex > all
I think I'll use a slot for the badge, as that'll be removed much more often and has a higher chance of stripping. Plus, you'll never see it anyways. Hex for the rest, though.
I already have a spot right??? 🤔
🤔 There are no spots in this raffle.
Would the board come with both a blank and a MEME badge? Or would we have to purchase both (If that's an option)?
You will receive both, but alternative colors will have to be purchased.
Post by: frostbyte-gaming on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:55:16
Post by: p_blaze on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:57:49
+1 I've seen too many hex bolts strippedWell, I've happened upon a first crossroad. Having never run a keyboard group buy before, I honestly don't know which type of screw is more popular in the community!
Hex or Phillips?
Aesthetic: hex, slot, phillips
Function: slot, phillips, hex
If it strips, good luck getting a hex out easily :'( :'(
I've certainly been there...
Would using different screw heads for different places (like, slot for the badge and hex/phillips for the main body) be a good idea?
Personally I prefer hex. However i like having matching sizes throughout which can be tricky using hex. I think Phillips is possibly the best in that regard, especially since you don’t really need to crank down on them in this sort of application.Well, I've happened upon a first crossroad. Having never run a keyboard group buy before, I honestly don't know which type of screw is more popular in the community!
Hex or Phillips?
Aesthetic: hex, slot, phillips
Function: slot, phillips, hex
If it strips, good luck getting a hex out easily :'( :'(
I've certainly been there...
Would using different screw heads for different places (like, slot for the badge and hex/phillips for the main body) be a good idea?
hex > all
I think I'll use a slot for the badge, as that'll be removed much more often and has a higher chance of stripping. Plus, you'll never see it anyways. Hex for the rest, though.I already have a spot right??? 🤔
🤔 There are no spots in this raffle.Would the board come with both a blank and a MEME badge? Or would we have to purchase both (If that's an option)?
You will receive both, but alternative colors will have to be purchased.
Post by: Purp on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:59:25
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 09 March 2018, 17:30:22
Very najs. Why gaskets on the top as opposed to the bottom of the plate? I've wondered if it would change how it feels, potentially a little softer? Though that might depend a bit on how tight if a fit it is.
If the gasket is on the bottom then it can be compressed which could produce some awful sounds since the plate could start tapping on the top case.
While that would make sense for a very soft gasket, I don't think im practice it would be very likely. The gaskets on the Keycult are quite compressed already, and the gasket on the 356mini (which is under the plate) is much thicker and softer yet it does not chatter at all.
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 10 March 2018, 11:31:27
+1 I've seen too many hex bolts strippedWell, I've happened upon a first crossroad. Having never run a keyboard group buy before, I honestly don't know which type of screw is more popular in the community!
Hex or Phillips?
Aesthetic: hex, slot, phillips
Function: slot, phillips, hex
If it strips, good luck getting a hex out easily :'( :'(
I've certainly been there...
Would using different screw heads for different places (like, slot for the badge and hex/phillips for the main body) be a good idea?
Personally I prefer hex. However i like having matching sizes throughout which can be tricky using hex. I think Phillips is possibly the best in that regard, especially since you don’t really need to crank down on them in this sort of application.Well, I've happened upon a first crossroad. Having never run a keyboard group buy before, I honestly don't know which type of screw is more popular in the community!
Hex or Phillips?
Aesthetic: hex, slot, phillips
Function: slot, phillips, hex
If it strips, good luck getting a hex out easily :'( :'(
I've certainly been there...
Would using different screw heads for different places (like, slot for the badge and hex/phillips for the main body) be a good idea?
hex > all
I think I'll use a slot for the badge, as that'll be removed much more often and has a higher chance of stripping. Plus, you'll never see it anyways. Hex for the rest, though.I already have a spot right??? 🤔
🤔 There are no spots in this raffle.Would the board come with both a blank and a MEME badge? Or would we have to purchase both (If that's an option)?
You will receive both, but alternative colors will have to be purchased.
I've been there, man.
Super hyped for this board that top bezel tickles my fancy, I love it. :thumb:
Thanks!
Not sure if it was asked previously, but will we be able to get the blank plaques engraved from you instead of blanks?
Sadly not. Text is cnc'd.
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 10 March 2018, 13:18:46
Not sure if it was asked previously, but will we be able to get the blank plaques engraved from you instead of blanks?
You could have them engraved somewhere local, but of course it would be raw aluminum where it was engraved, since it would go through the anodized color. Still could look cool though, if you're really wanting it personalized.
Post by: Kafka on Sat, 10 March 2018, 18:22:33
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 10 March 2018, 19:41:03
I've stripped too many hex screws to trust them.
If enough interest is there, I could possibly offer a seperate set of screws with a different heads.
Post by: ramnes on Sat, 10 March 2018, 20:47:59
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sat, 10 March 2018, 22:47:37
I've stripped too many hex screws to trust them.
Stop using the wrong key.
Post by: Krelbit on Sun, 11 March 2018, 00:20:06
Nice. Want 60%. Not sure about having "meme" written on the top of my board tho.
Unless this goes absolutely perfectly and I come out of the buy 100% wanting to do more keyboards another board is out of the option.
There are blank badges for those who aren't a fan of the meme badge.
Post by: blacksimon on Sun, 11 March 2018, 00:21:50
Post by: Krelbit on Sun, 11 March 2018, 09:19:00
Update 1: Currently working with the elastomer company, and will have gaskets finalized by 3/12/18 or 3/13/18. Color choices came in, and I have asked for anodization color chips. The choices for color are:
- Silver
- Violet
- Red
- Brown
- Green
- Black
- Orange
- Gold
- Blue
- Olive Drab
- Yellow
There are 11 Colors here, and I'd like to chop it down to 7. After I get the color chips, I will hold a vote for colors.
I've added a couple items to the to-do list pertaining to these matters.
Thank you for your continued interest in my project.
Post by: xondat on Sun, 11 March 2018, 09:59:15
(https://i.imgur.com/7dlOD8Q.png)
Post by: Marutks on Sun, 11 March 2018, 11:27:17
Post by: xondat on Sun, 11 March 2018, 11:55:40
what is gasket mount? is it better than top mount?
The top and bottom piece clamp the plate in between, and where the plate touches them, there is Silicone. Not better, just different.
Post by: Rob27shred on Sun, 11 March 2018, 13:01:36
I've stripped too many hex screws to trust them.
Stop using the wrong key.
Truth, LOL! Hex screws can be frustrating when you don't have the proper size key, but considering they are so common with kits I'd recommend investing in a decent set of hex keys that has all the common metric & SAE sizes. Something like this, https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-SAE-Metric-Long-Arm-Hex-Key-Set-26-Piece-HLAHKSM26PC/202934869
Post by: Krelbit on Sun, 11 March 2018, 16:02:39
I've stripped too many hex screws to trust them.
Stop using the wrong key.
Truth, LOL! Hex screws can be frustrating when you don't have the proper size key, but considering they are so common with kits I'd recommend investing in a decent set of hex keys that has all the common metric & SAE sizes. Something like this, https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-SAE-Metric-Long-Arm-Hex-Key-Set-26-Piece-HLAHKSM26PC/202934869
Do boards usually include their own hex screw? If so I'd like to hop on that as well.
Pink please :'(Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7dlOD8Q.png)
no thnx xoxo
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 11 March 2018, 16:04:57
I've stripped too many hex screws to trust them.
Stop using the wrong key.
Truth, LOL! Hex screws can be frustrating when you don't have the proper size key, but considering they are so common with kits I'd recommend investing in a decent set of hex keys that has all the common metric & SAE sizes. Something like this, https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-SAE-Metric-Long-Arm-Hex-Key-Set-26-Piece-HLAHKSM26PC/202934869
Do boards usually include their own hex screw? If so I'd like to hop on that as well.Pink please :'(Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7dlOD8Q.png)
no thnx xoxo
my weaven had a hex tool, my mira didn't
Post by: HardcoreDesk on Sun, 11 March 2018, 19:46:11
Post by: Krelbit on Sun, 11 March 2018, 21:59:00
Not sure if this has been asked already, but what's the chance of getting customized? If not, then do you have any estimate of what it might cost for an individual to get the blank tag engraved?
Very low chance of customized badges. The text is cnc'd on.
No idea about engraving costs.
Post by: MajorclaM on Mon, 12 March 2018, 00:10:53
Not sure if this has been asked already, but what's the chance of getting customized nametags? If not, then do you have any estimate of what it might cost for an individual to get the blank tag engraved?
Very low chance of customized badges. The text is cnc'd on.
No idea about engraving costs.
Would you be opposed to releasing a template for the badge in case people wanted to make custom badges by 3d printing or otherwise?
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Mon, 12 March 2018, 02:26:37
Post by: Krelbit on Mon, 12 March 2018, 08:47:52
Not sure if this has been asked already, but what's the chance of getting customized nametags? If not, then do you have any estimate of what it might cost for an individual to get the blank tag engraved?
Very low chance of customized badges. The text is cnc'd on.
No idea about engraving costs.
Would you be opposed to releasing a template for the badge in case people wanted to make custom badges by 3d printing or otherwise?
I hadn't actually thought of that. Sure, I'll release the files after the buy is done.
Post by: dubious on Mon, 12 March 2018, 12:35:07
Post by: Krelbit on Tue, 13 March 2018, 14:14:39
Post by: Cavemann6 on Wed, 14 March 2018, 21:30:24
Update 2 - 3/13/2018: Prototype PCBs have been ordered! They will be in my hands hopefully by the month's end.
:thumb:
Post by: Krelbit on Fri, 23 March 2018, 14:15:54
Prototype PCBs have arrived! They'll be by the beginning of April. After we see that everything works, especially regarding the daughterboards, I'll move on to getting the prototype case made.
EDIT: Production PCBs will be matte black with a white silkscreen. The pcbs pictured are not final.
Post by: xondat on Fri, 23 March 2018, 14:17:21
Prototype PCBs have arrived! They'll be by the beginning of April. After we see that everything works, especially regarding the daughterboards, I'll move on to getting the prototype case made.
They're terrible, I love it.
Post by: Krelbit on Fri, 23 March 2018, 14:51:55
Prototype PCBs have arrived! They'll be by the beginning of April. After we see that everything works, especially regarding the daughterboards, I'll move on to getting the prototype case made.
They're terrible, I love it.
Sadly, no one in the GB will get these in yellow. (unless you want to assemble some pcbs yourself)
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Fri, 23 March 2018, 14:54:13
Prototype PCBs have arrived! They'll be by the beginning of April. After we see that everything works, especially regarding the daughterboards, I'll move on to getting the prototype case made.
They're terrible, I love it.
Sadly, no one in the GB will get these in yellow. (unless you want to assemble some pcbs yourself)
I would 100% get this in yellow if offered. Tired of green and black pcbs.
Post by: Krelbit on Tue, 27 March 2018, 21:36:57
Post by: lac29 on Tue, 27 March 2018, 22:27:31
Post by: xondat on Wed, 28 March 2018, 05:22:14
I personally could care less about pcb color. As long as their is a plain ol black case version, I think I'm in. 65% + QMK + USB-C + split backspace makes this a winner for me.
So you care a little bit? :p
Neon pink PCB pls.
Post by: Krelbit on Wed, 04 April 2018, 23:21:50
A purchase order has been sent in for the gaskets. They're cheaper than I expected, so now I'll make $27 from each board instead of $11. Go me.
It turns out that my anodization contact has told me that their anodization shifts from metal to metal and batch to batch, so they won't be able to get me consistent color chips at all. Nevertheless, I have been assured that the quality is quite high and I will see for myself when I order the prototype.
Speaking of the prototype, I have quotes coming in this weekend and expect to place an order for the prototype after the prototype pcbs have been tested and confirmed working. The parts are on their way to be assembled and tested as of today.
Also, here's a handful of renders using JTK Yolch (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94926.0) and JTK Red Riot (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92983.0), because I gotta cross-promote to hit MOQ these days.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/806/26335018787_8903bcfd86_o.png)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/811/26335018437_c8f57bf73b_o.png)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/875/27333875618_cfe96442ba_o.png)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/817/26335017377_0a7b3d795e_o.png)
Post by: peggisan on Thu, 05 April 2018, 01:35:24
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 05 April 2018, 01:39:44
will there be an option for just the PCB? been looking for a 65% uses micro/typeC
It uses a daughter board for the usb connection so it probably won’t work for your board.
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 05 April 2018, 08:39:27
will there be an option for just the PCB? been looking for a 65% uses micro/typeC
If you can somehow find a case and plate with daughterboard cutouts and no screw mounts, sure, I can sell you a set of pcbs. Otherwise you're out of luck.
Post by: lac29 on Thu, 05 April 2018, 08:59:12
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 05 April 2018, 09:21:42
Would you be willing to sell the prototypes if they work?
The case, or the PCB? Only a couple PCBs will be assembled to see if the whole Jst connector mechanism works.
If you (or anyone) want(s) to buy the prototype case let me know. :D Just know that it'll probably be in the neighborhood of $700 for the prototype kit. (You're guaranteed a spot, I guess) I just need it to take pictures and test if everything is working alright.
Post by: lac29 on Thu, 05 April 2018, 09:27:15
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 05 April 2018, 09:38:51
So no chance of the prototype (everything) for whatever the production models will cost?
No.
I'll end up fronting the $600 cost on the prototype myself. I've already bought PCBs and gaskets and that's where the extra 100 comes from. If anyone really wants in on the board they can buy the prototype, but they have to keep in mind that they probably won't get it until the gb is running.
Prototypes naturally cost more than their production counterparts so having the prototype set significantly higher if someone wants to buy it seems alright with me.
Post by: floristfran on Thu, 05 April 2018, 12:45:20
(also gmk watster pls)
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 05 April 2018, 13:50:16
have been hype since you first posted the first renders, going to buy this so hard
(also gmk watster pls)
Thanks for the support! Hopefully, I can move to group buy by the end of this month or the beginning of next month.
GMK Watsters were run and have shipped, try and get some off mechmarket or something lol
Post by: Koobaczech on Thu, 05 April 2018, 14:00:20
(also gmk watster pls)I've got some watsers for you bro, just gonna have to dig through my trash can
Post by: floristfran on Thu, 05 April 2018, 14:46:16
:'((also gmk watster pls)I've got some watsers for you bro, just gonna have to dig through my trash can
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Post by: Koobaczech on Thu, 05 April 2018, 19:40:54
Post by: Krelbit on Tue, 10 April 2018, 23:43:50
Snag hit, we've got some small problems with the daughterboard, JST connector cables, and the PCB.
We've rectified our issues but will need new prototype pcbs. +1 1/2 week to project time while those arrive.
Thanks to Wilba for helping us out with our troubles, and for a hookup.
Prototype Case Status: Waiting for a quote, and ready to place an order.
Gasket Status: In production.
Removed colors Brown, Orange, Yellow, and Olive Drab from color table. Orange will be available as a badge color, but not as a case color. Gold is close enough to yellow to not need both.
Want to vote the on final PCB Color? Cast your vote here: https://www.strawpoll.me/15478962 (https://www.strawpoll.me/15478962)
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 11 April 2018, 00:16:39
Removed colors ... Yellow ... from color table.
angery
Post by: Krelbit on Wed, 11 April 2018, 00:28:48
Removed colors ... Yellow ... from color table.
angery
no eyebleed banana boards on my watch
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 11 April 2018, 00:46:48
Removed colors ... Yellow ... from color table.
angery
no eyebleed banana boards on my watch
i'm gonna reano my alice yellow because of this
Post by: Krelbit on Wed, 11 April 2018, 00:57:02
Removed colors ... Yellow ... from color table.
angery
no eyebleed banana boards on my watch
i'm gonna reano my alice yellow because of this
not like this
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 11 April 2018, 01:53:35
Thanks to Wilba for helping us out with our troubles, and for a hookup.
I'm always free to hookup when u r bby :-* :-* :-*
Post by: sleepybrett on Wed, 11 April 2018, 09:35:14
Post by: Krelbit on Wed, 11 April 2018, 10:52:54
No split spacebar, no sale.
No split spacebar, no Swiss cheese bottom row.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 11 April 2018, 11:29:58
No split spacebar, no sale.
No split spacebar, no Swiss cheese bottom row.
swiss cheese bottom row is the worst
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 11 April 2018, 12:04:34
Post by: futurecrime on Wed, 11 April 2018, 12:49:02
Post by: Cavemann6 on Wed, 11 April 2018, 13:11:24
Post by: emenelopee on Wed, 11 April 2018, 13:51:38
No split spacebar, no sale.
No split spacebar, no Swiss cheese bottom row.
swiss cheese bottom row is the worst
Swiss cheese bottom row? I don't know this term.
Post by: Krelbit on Wed, 11 April 2018, 18:01:04
No split spacebar, no sale.
No split spacebar, no Swiss cheese bottom row.
swiss cheese bottom row is the worst
Swiss cheese bottom row? I don't know this term.
Swiss cheese bottom row is when the bottom row is absolutely teeming with holes.
Like a good hunk of swiss.
(https://boygeniusreport.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/swiss_cheese.jpg?quality=98&strip=all)
Post by: emenelopee on Wed, 11 April 2018, 18:17:59
I found this little lol from last year.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/62svvs/interest_check_sa_swiss_cheese/
(http://i.imgur.com/U4hebBD.jpg)
/derail
Post by: futurecrime on Wed, 11 April 2018, 19:14:25
You mean with blockers and such? Or a bunch of smaller keys with their associated key edges?
I found this little lol from last year.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/62svvs/interest_check_sa_swiss_cheese/Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/U4hebBD.jpg)
/derail
On the pcb. To accommodate all the various switches and stabs combos.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 11 April 2018, 19:14:59
You mean with blockers and such? Or a bunch of smaller keys with their associated key edges?
I found this little lol from last year.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/62svvs/interest_check_sa_swiss_cheese/Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/U4hebBD.jpg)
/derail
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1473/3902/files/2_2aa63fd4-8997-4067-8796-2d23f608b0f3.jpg?v=1501657088)
like this
Post by: emenelopee on Wed, 11 April 2018, 19:52:08
Post by: Jhors2 on Wed, 11 April 2018, 20:21:35
On the PCB! Alles klar.
You can also end up with this as a plate:
(http://imgur.com/5v6zhtb.jpg)
Post by: Krelbit on Wed, 11 April 2018, 21:54:34
On the PCB! Alles klar.
You can also end up with this as a plate:Show Image(http://imgur.com/5v6zhtb.jpg)
What monstrous black magick this be?
Post by: floristfran on Wed, 11 April 2018, 22:06:39
15u spacebar whenOn the PCB! Alles klar.
You can also end up with this as a plate:Show Image(http://imgur.com/5v6zhtb.jpg)
What monstrous black magick this be?
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Post by: dc_in_sf on Mon, 16 April 2018, 23:10:37
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 17 April 2018, 16:47:32
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 17 April 2018, 16:49:30
Post by: Krelbit on Tue, 17 April 2018, 19:10:19
any projection on when the raffle will start?
I'd be inclined to say mid-May, but it could go a bit later.
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 17 April 2018, 19:55:25
any projection on when the raffle will start?
I'd be inclined to say mid-May, but it could go a bit later.
Thank you very much for the reply.
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 18 April 2018, 12:33:20
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 19 April 2018, 01:12:50
Would it be possible to have a MAO version for Meme? Thank you very much
For this buy, no. The less variation, the better.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 21 April 2018, 14:17:54
Would it be possible to have a MAO version for Meme? Thank you very much
For this buy, no. The less variation, the better.
Thanks
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 25 April 2018, 14:38:57
Post by: Krelbit on Mon, 30 April 2018, 17:51:55
Final quotes have just arrived, and they're actually a lot higher than I expected them to be. I am considering running this at a lower volume because I do not believe I can reach MOQ otherwise with this increased price. The new case would cost near $550, and the PCB, plate, gaskets, and screws would end up costing more. The revised kit pricing would be around $675, which is unacceptably high to me.
I'm going back to the drawing board a bit to see if I can make any changes that lower the price at all.
I am also now considering overseas manufacturing, but as a complete newbie in the field, I don't know where to go and what to use. As a student with finals week approaching, I don't even really have the time to look into it at the moment.
What do you guys think of this change in plans?
PS: If you've got another source I could look into for machining, let me know.
PPS: Also considering running 2 cases and ending the project.
Post by: friglesnart on Mon, 30 April 2018, 18:33:23
Post by: Krelbit on Mon, 30 April 2018, 19:01:10
I think taking your time to get this project done at an affordable price and in the hands of more people would be a worth while endeavor.
This project would be done at an affordable price for fewer people. Now that I'm looking at more affordable low quantity options, I can get as few units of this board made as possible, as was the original intent.
I'm currently looking at quantities of 2, 5, and 10 boards made from a few different recommended manufacturers.
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 30 April 2018, 20:28:29
If you'd like to pursue overseas manufacturing, there are plenty of other designers around here who I'm sure could connect you.
Post by: Theswetiyeti on Mon, 07 May 2018, 03:02:10
Post by: Krelbit on Mon, 07 May 2018, 17:33:49
I love this board :thumb: looks great seems unique :thumb: just have a few questions will we be able to get replacement gaskets? what is the estimated lifespan of a gasket ?
A spare set of gaskets would be sent out with every plate, but now that we're moving away from mass production into small scale private production I'm not sure.
Gaskets are silicone so they won't degrade like rubber.
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 10 May 2018, 20:19:55
Post by: packman86 on Thu, 10 May 2018, 20:22:59
Post by: xondat on Thu, 10 May 2018, 20:23:55
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 10 May 2018, 20:24:10
Post by: Midori on Thu, 10 May 2018, 20:25:44
Post by: frostbyte-gaming on Thu, 10 May 2018, 20:26:44
Post by: DJ Shoko on Thu, 10 May 2018, 20:26:57
Post by: Taeha Types on Thu, 10 May 2018, 20:43:53
Post by: tomu on Thu, 10 May 2018, 20:44:02
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 10 May 2018, 20:44:17
weak
Post by: Shenpai on Thu, 10 May 2018, 20:45:49
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Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 10 May 2018, 20:46:52
F
good lad
Post by: duckboi on Thu, 10 May 2018, 20:50:29
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 10 May 2018, 20:56:28
:p
Post by: Allo on Thu, 10 May 2018, 21:07:32
F
Post by: Cavemann6 on Thu, 10 May 2018, 21:28:59
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Thu, 10 May 2018, 22:54:20
F
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 11 May 2018, 00:38:07
F
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Post by: Remsky on Fri, 11 May 2018, 01:28:41
Rip lube daddy. He lubed me up when nobody else would :pepehands:
Post by: floristfran on Sat, 12 May 2018, 09:43:55
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Post by: p_blaze on Sun, 13 May 2018, 11:20:18
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Sun, 13 May 2018, 12:49:39
Post by: Rob27shred on Sun, 13 May 2018, 12:50:33
I was pretty interested in this board, sorry to hear it went south Krelbit.
Post by: superhot on Sun, 13 May 2018, 13:33:10
Post by: oatmicro on Sun, 13 May 2018, 13:49:42
Post by: superhot on Sun, 13 May 2018, 17:08:21
MEME: I don't feel so good
mr. krelbit i don't wanna go
Post by: Krelbit on Mon, 14 May 2018, 23:55:31
Post by: Tonkatonk on Tue, 15 May 2018, 22:43:11
Post by: gnunin on Wed, 16 May 2018, 00:04:22
Post by: Aerizu on Wed, 16 May 2018, 00:13:07
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 16 May 2018, 01:50:19
Post by: 2Cas on Wed, 16 May 2018, 03:23:17
Post by: Remsky on Wed, 16 May 2018, 09:39:42
You're supposed to collect the money first, then lead everyone on a wild goose chase for 2 years, you big dumbThen after 2 years is gone, print out shipping labels so people think it is shipping, but never bring the boards to the post office
Post by: Theswetiyeti on Sat, 19 May 2018, 04:02:33
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sat, 19 May 2018, 06:29:02
↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A
You forgot to start the game, so I guess we’ll do 2 player mode:
↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A Start Start
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 19 May 2018, 07:50:21
At least get that right:↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A
You forgot to start the game, so I guess we’ll do 2 player mode:
↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A Start Start
Quote
A common misconception is that the code ends with Start or Select Start. In many titles, the player must press Start after entering the code in order to start a game, or press Select to switch to two-player mode and then start the game, leading to the confusion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konami_Code#Variations
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Post by: Krelbit on Wed, 30 May 2018, 15:37:37
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446795213651050497/451476753756586004/image.jpg)
still dead
Post by: jimirolln on Mon, 11 June 2018, 14:54:19
:)) duped
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 21 June 2018, 17:02:10
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/312287977151660042/459477599161286657/IMG_20180621_165931.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446795213651050497/459302291309068308/8.jpg)
Post by: Cavemann6 on Thu, 21 June 2018, 20:00:59
Totally unrelated imagesShow Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/312287977151660042/459477599161286657/IMG_20180621_165931.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446795213651050497/459302291309068308/8.jpg)
pls
Post by: Krelbit on Mon, 25 June 2018, 17:53:34
Post by: xondat on Mon, 25 June 2018, 18:07:50
The most unrelated image that I have ever postedShow Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446795213651050497/460626988248465408/IMG_5613.JPG)
can't believe I paid $420,000 for this
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 25 June 2018, 18:56:06
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 25 June 2018, 18:56:44
Can we have imaginary typing impressions when these pretend to ship? Interested in how they would have turned out.
+1 about this as well. Would love to hear how it turns out.
Post by: Aerizu on Fri, 13 July 2018, 21:37:10
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 14 July 2018, 13:40:07
where can i buy it
Post by: xondat on Sat, 14 July 2018, 15:13:53
What is that
where can i buy it
some idiot gave me the files
gb soon
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 14 July 2018, 16:20:22
What is that
where can i buy it
some idiot gave me the files
gb soon
can i get a custom badge that says "jimirollin" on it
Post by: Dotsandlines on Sun, 29 March 2020, 19:15:10