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Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Tue, 08 September 2009, 08:37:16
I'll try to keep a running total, since a poll wouldn't have enough options.

My favorite is the IBM Model F AT keyboard.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 08 September 2009, 08:40:30
wow, that would be a lot of work to keep a manual total. but if you're game, then one advantage is in this poll we can vote for more than 1 switch (which we cant do in the auto-poll).

So I vote for fukka and bs, both, in a tie.

oh wait a minute, you're saying favorite keyboard rather than favorite switch. Hmmmm.

endurapro, and while I'd like to say filco zero i dont know if it has controller issues yet, so i'll have to say abs m1 modded with white alps leafs and aekii sliders. Lol.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Tue, 08 September 2009, 08:45:47
Okay so:

Model F AT : 1
ABS M1 w/ White ALPS leafs and AEKII sliders : 1
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 08 September 2009, 08:48:14
So, basically ignoring switch type and concentrating on the design of the physical unit? Probably the IBM M4-1 then.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Tue, 08 September 2009, 08:49:15
Quote from: ch_123;115705
So, basically ignoring switch type and concentrating on the design of the physical unit? Probably the IBM M4-1 then.

Well, I really mean your favorite to use, but I'll add the M4-1.

IBM Model F AT : 1
IBM M4-1 : 1
ABS M1 w/ White ALPS leafs and AEKII sliders : 1
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: erricrice on Tue, 08 September 2009, 08:54:21
I'm going to reserve judgement until I get my Cherry 11900(probably tomorrow woot).  We shall see, we shall see.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: rdjack21 on Tue, 08 September 2009, 09:06:11
Well that is easy:

1: HHKB Pro 2
2: 87U/86U

Yea both use the same switch but I just love both of them. Brought my HHKB Pro to work today so I can take the 86U home for a little cleaning and a key mod then back to work it will go.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 08 September 2009, 10:04:06
Quote from: timw4mail;115706
Well, I really mean your favorite to use, but I'll add the M4-1.

IBM Model F AT : 1
IBM M4-1 : 1
ABS M1 w/ White ALPS leafs and AEKII sliders : 1


Oh wait. You mean for people whose favorite keyboard is different to their favorite switch? Take my vote for the M4-1 back then.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 08 September 2009, 10:05:54
Quote from: timw4mail;115703
Okay so:

Model F AT : 1
ABS M1 w/ White ALPS leafs and AEKII sliders : 1


well i also voted for endurapro since i think its a tie between that and the absm1 modded. :)
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 08 September 2009, 10:12:18
Quote from: wellington1869;115726
well i also voted for endurapro since i think its a tie between that and the absm1 modded. :)


Don't you really mean a Unicomp Spacesaver, considering that you modded the pseudo-Trackpoint out?
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: rdjack21 on Tue, 08 September 2009, 10:38:59
Forgot to add the keyboard that does not exist yet but would love to own:

A Topre version of lowpoly's mini keyboard. I can live without the trackpoint on it but I do what it in a Topre version.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Tue, 08 September 2009, 11:32:31
IBM Model F AT : 1
ABS M1 w/ White ALPS leafs and AEKII sliders : 1
Endurapro : 1
Realforce 86/7 U : 1
HHKB 2 : 1
Sejin Electron SKM-2001 : 1

I'm going to draw the line on keyboards that don't yet exist.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 08 September 2009, 11:36:32
Quote from: ch_123;115728
Don't you really mean a Unicomp Spacesaver, considering that you modded the pseudo-Trackpoint out?


hahahahaha true but I then modded it back in... (altho now it doesnt work, so I guess its functionally a spacesaver now ;D)

what i'd like is an m13 ("real" trackpoint) with 5g lighter keys like unicomps :) (I'm pretty sure its not my imagination that they're a touch lighter)

I suppose what that means is one day I have to buy an m13 and do a painful "spring swap" from my endurapro :)
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Tue, 08 September 2009, 11:51:50
IBM Model F AT : 1
ABS M1 w/ White ALPS leafs and AEKII sliders : 1
Endurapro : 1
Realforce 86/7 U : 1
HHKB 2 : 1
Sejin Electron SKM-2001 : 1
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 08 September 2009, 12:03:31
Quote from: ripster;115757
Aren't polls fun?

...
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Tue, 08 September 2009, 12:09:44
IBM Model F AT : 1
ABS M1 w/ White ALPS leafs and AEKII sliders : 1
Endurapro : 1
Realforce 86/7 U : 1
HHKB 2 : 1
Sejin Electron SKM-2001 : 1
Datahands : 1

(Since I know that Ripster is joshing me.)
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Tue, 08 September 2009, 12:30:04
Quote from: webwit;115787
This isn't getting anywhere, is it? 7 votes, 7 different boards.

Well, I would vote for the Model F a second time, but that wouldn't be fair, now would it?
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: Rajagra on Tue, 08 September 2009, 13:49:51
DAS III.

There, I said it!

(Though I'm really getting a taste for Cherry browns, and have a Realforce 87U on the way...)
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Tue, 08 September 2009, 13:54:28
IBM Model F AT : 1
ABS M1 w/ White ALPS leafs and AEKII sliders : 1
Endurapro : 1
Realforce 86/7 U : 1
HHKB 2 : 1
Sejin Electron SKM-2001 : 1
Datahands : 1
DAS III : 1
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: Eclairz on Tue, 08 September 2009, 14:13:26
My Raptor K-1 modified with dual molded black keycaps and blue stem keyswitches.
Has everything :

dual molded caps with concave f and j keys
cherry blue stems and springs
2 x 1.1 usb hub
more compact layout that full size
6 key rollover
usb
comes with keylocks and key remover
fairly robust and weighted
compatible with most G80-1800 if new parts are needed
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: bigpook on Tue, 08 September 2009, 14:14:25
My favorite keyboard is one that can't be purchased off the shelf.
A filco tenkeyless with black alps.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 08 September 2009, 14:16:53
Quote from: ripster;115824
He said DAS!



who!! who said das!!
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Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Tue, 08 September 2009, 14:18:56
Quote from: Rajagra;115813
DAS III.

There, I said it!

(Though I'm really getting a taste for Cherry browns, and have a Realforce 87U on the way...)


Cherry G80-3000 with blue Cherries.

Like you, I'm starting to like the brown Cherries quite a bit. I did not know how loud blue Cherries could be until I tried brown Cherries. Everything else in my collection is louder than my blue Cherries.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Tue, 08 September 2009, 14:29:46
IBM Model F AT
ABS M1 w/ White ALPS leafs and AEKII sliders
Endurapro
Realforce 86/7 U
HHKB 2
Sejin Electron SKM-2001
Datahands
DAS III
Raptor K-1
filco tenkeyless with black alps
Cherry G80-3000 with blues
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: shortround on Tue, 08 September 2009, 15:13:54
:dizzy:A simple poll gone awry.  Ha, at least there's diversity in keyboards so far.  I'll try to post a vote in a few days after I get to use my new filco that's coming in.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: rdjack21 on Tue, 08 September 2009, 15:20:08
Man you can't even declare a winner over on your switch thread so How can you come over here and declare a winner here? And to help confuse things even more you had to go and open it back up again!
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: InSanCen on Tue, 08 September 2009, 16:27:45
If you had asked me before my new toy arrived today, it would have been an unswerving "1391406" in reply.

But the feel of this keyboard, though the overall quality and design is horrible, is great.

I'll tell you in a week or so. I haven't used in in a Command Line environment yet, and the placement of the backslashes (between CTRL and ALT keys on either side, where the Windows keys would be on a 104) will make it or break it for me in that.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Tue, 08 September 2009, 17:55:55
IBM Model F AT
ABS M1 w/ White ALPS leafs and AEKII sliders
Endurapro
Realforce 86/7 U
Realforce 103UB
HHKB 2
Sejin Electron SKM-2001
Datahands
DAS III
Raptor K-1
filco tenkeyless with black alps
Cherry G80-3000 with blues

Is no keyboard going to get a second vote?
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: maxlugar on Tue, 08 September 2009, 19:19:46
Quote from: timw4mail;115901
IBM Model F AT
ABS M1 w/ White ALPS leafs and AEKII sliders
Endurapro
Realforce 86/7 U
Realforce 103UB
HHKB 2
Sejin Electron SKM-2001
Datahands
DAS III
Raptor K-1
filco tenkeyless with black alps
Cherry G80-3000 with blues

Is no keyboard going to get a second vote?


You have excellent taste in keyboards pal  :)
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Tue, 08 September 2009, 19:31:14
Quote from: maxlugar;115939
You have excellent taste in keyboards pal  :)

Is that the first duplicate vote?
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: InSanCen on Tue, 08 September 2009, 19:41:53
Quote from: ripster;115954
Hah - I know ballot stuffing when I see it.


Seen it in your polls?

Sorry... did I say that out loud ;-)
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Tue, 08 September 2009, 19:55:10
I haven't actually changed the results, so how is that ballot stuffing?
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 08 September 2009, 21:30:58
Quote from: timw4mail;115901


Is no keyboard going to get a second vote?


thats pretty funny :)

I'll vote again if that'll help :)
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: huha on Tue, 08 September 2009, 21:46:26
I'm complaining a bit on every other occasion (every occasion is reserved for Cherry's crappy cases), but in the end, the Endurapro still is my favourite keyboard. It's got a pointing device and decent switches. Also, it's blank, but that's a non-standard order, so we'll just call it an Endurapro.

-huha
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Tue, 08 September 2009, 21:59:06
IBM Model F AT
ABS M1 w/ White ALPS leafs and AEKII sliders
Endurapro : 2
Realforce 86/7 U
Realforce 103UB
HHKB 2
Sejin Electron SKM-2001
Datahands
DAS III
Raptor K-1
filco tenkeyless with black alps
Cherry G80-3000 with blues
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: wheel83 on Tue, 08 September 2009, 22:52:53
my favorite is the ibm 87 space saver.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: Hak Foo on Tue, 08 September 2009, 23:01:00
I'm really looking forward to trying the G80-3000 with blues.  For now, it's a hard call-- Focus FK-2001 (White Alps) or Unicomp Customizer 104.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: skriefal on Wed, 09 September 2009, 00:03:34
I'll add a second vote for HHKB 2.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: maxlugar on Wed, 09 September 2009, 00:15:10
Quote from: timw4mail;115989
IBM Model F AT


There's the original IBM PC AT 84-key buckling springs over capacitive contacts keyboard, then nothing, then some other excellent keyboards.

So far, I've not found any other keyboard as enjoyable to type on as the King of Keyboards.  For me, the original IBM 83-key PC/XT Model F keyboards are too clicky (key action not as smooth as the PC AT keyboards) and too pingy.  Besides being a brick, the PC/XT Model F lay out is worthless for most touch typists and the requires a dedicated XT to AT converter.

Some current keyboards, including the Filcos, are just great, but they simply feel like toys in comparison.  The PC AT keyboard sounds and feels like a machine, a piece of equipment that begs to be used and seems like it would be virtually impossible to wear out.

My faves:

1.  Original IBM PC AT 84-key keyboard - The King of Keyboards (right Sandy?)
2.  Northgate Omnikey 102 with real clicky complicated ALPS key switches
3.  Chicony KB-5181 - awesome SMK Monterey keyswitches spoiled by extremely cheap case plastics
4.  Happy Hacking Professional 2 - polar opposite from the PC AT keyboard     but extremely high build quality, an outstanding form factor, and pleasant relatively quiet fatigue-free typing - on  "special" rubber domes!
5. Topre Realforce 23UB numeric keypads
6.  Topre Realforce 87U - not sure yet I like the different key weighting
7. Model M 1390120 early Jan 1986 production model - yes there are real differences between early Model Ms vs. late Model Ms vs. Unicomp Model Ms
8. The rest of my Model Ms 1391401, 42H1292, etc
9. Filco Zero Model FKBN87Z/EB with genuine Fukka key switches - whoo hoo!
10. Filco Majestouch Tactile Click 104-key FKBN104MC/EB with the highly venerated Cherry MX Blue key switches that you geekhackers love so much
11.  Dell AT 101W in black - well made with real ALPS key switches but the tactility is way too subtle for me (same reason I personally do not care much for Cherry Browns)
12.  Filco FKB22MB Numeric Keypad with Cherry MX Brown key switches

I could go on, but what's the point?  :blabla:

Keyboards are like women.  Most red-blooded men like variety and we all have our favourite flavours.  But after trying 'em all,  we eventually come home to pound on our most favourite and reliable...keyboard that is  :evil:

Cheers Mates
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: maxlugar on Wed, 09 September 2009, 01:34:16
Quote from: ripster;116018
Now can I declare the HHKB2 the winner?

This is a weird poll.  Everybody knows the IBM Model M is the King of Keyboards! (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=5130)


I think it would be safe to declare the HHKB Pro 2 the winner in the category of keyboards currently in production.  It's a high quality awesome little keyboard that really grows on you over time.

The IBM Model M is a great cost engineered membrane keyboard but is clearly not the King of Keyboards.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: maxlugar on Wed, 09 September 2009, 02:02:21
Quote from: ripster;116024
Sounds like I should separate the Model F and the Model M in the switch poll.  They must feel quite different.


Yes, you really should separate the two.  Buckling springs over capacitive contacts do not equal buckling springs over membrane.

Most people know of buckling springs because the Model M enjoyed an unusually long product life cycle.  Vast production over many years ensured an abundant supply of used and new old stock Model Ms for years to come.

The Model F buckling spring requires approximately 10 grams less force for the key presses and has a much more precise, on-center, crisp feeling than the Model M.  The 84-key further refined the mechanism to increase the smoothness vs. the original PC/XT Model F.  I can type for longer periods on my PC AT keyboard without fatigue than my Model Ms  (but the HHKB Pro 2 surpasses even the PC AT keyboard in typing longevity without fatigue)

I am going to start a thread on "Model M Personality" becasue each one of my Model M keyboards has a unique typing feel that is probabaly caused by a variety of factors.  Not only do the Model M's feel different, the individual keys on a particular keyboard can also have unique characteristics from other keys on the same keyboard.  On the other hand, most of my IBM PC AT keyboards feel fairly consistent with relatively little variation in the feel of the individual keys.

The million dollar question is why?  If they both use buckling springs, what are the  reasons for the differences?  Many of you have tried to explain it through extensive experimentation, but I have not seen any conclusive evidence.  These things intrigue me.

As I remind my wife, there are worse things to be obsessed with...
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 09 September 2009, 03:41:20
Quote
Sounds like I should separate the Model F and the Model M in the switch poll. They must feel quite different.

Quote
Yes, you really should separate the two. Buckling springs over capacitive contacts do not equal buckling springs over membrane.

Using Ripster's and Max Lugar's logic, we should count all the different types of real, fake, complex and simple White Alps as completely different switches.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: JBert on Wed, 09 September 2009, 04:15:19
Quote from: maxlugar;116047
The Model F buckling spring requires approximately 10 grams less force for the key presses and has a much more precise, on-center, crisp feeling than the Model M.  The 84-key further refined the mechanism to increase the smoothness vs. the original PC/XT Model F.  I can type for longer periods on my PC AT keyboard without fatigue than my Model Ms  (but the HHKB Pro 2 surpasses even the PC AT keyboard in typing longevity without fatigue)
I haven't got a second model F to compare, but are you sure the XT and AT models are so different in key feel?
While they have some build differences, most of the internals appeared the same. As such, I'm wondering if the design was changed or if your XT model is simply a little bit older, more used or stored in a harsh environment.

If used model M's can seriously vary in key feel, I think this would also apply for the model F.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: SCTony on Wed, 09 September 2009, 04:47:22
The model F and model M do feel different- I noticed this before I realized that my latest board was a model F. I thought it might be the keys - one piece vs two piece - but after swapping a key, that doesn't appear to be the reason. Must be the membrane vs cap. contact.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 09 September 2009, 04:59:24
There's more coils on the spring in a Model F. That pretty much accounts for all the difference, whatever the Cult of the Hammer may tell you...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WlQN8j58XbI/R1ZuXq7JQtI/AAAAAAAAAcc/OLJd-zIJPy8/s400/hammer.bmp)
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Wed, 09 September 2009, 06:12:54
IBM Model F AT :2
IBM Spacesaver
ABS M1 w/ White ALPS leafs and AEKII sliders
Endurapro : 2
Realforce 86/7 U
Realforce 103UB
HHKB 2 : 2
Sejin Electron SKM-2001
Datahands
DAS III
Raptor K-1
filco tenkeyless with black alps
Cherry G80-3000 with blues
Northgate Omnikey 102
Compaq MX 11800

I'm going to limit to 2 favorite keyboards for the sake of brevity, and add my other favorite keyboard.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 09 September 2009, 07:08:44
I declare this keyboard to be the pinnacle of human engineering -

(http://emall.pk/addimages/misc/emall/dell.jpg)
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Wed, 09 September 2009, 07:10:42
Quote from: ch_123;116089
I declare this keyboard to be the pinnacle of human engineering -


I'm going to pretend I didn't see that.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: JBert on Wed, 09 September 2009, 08:22:57
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I declare this keyboard to be the pinnacle of human exploitation -

Show Image
(http://emall.pk/addimages/misc/emall/dell.jpg)
There, fixed the quote for you. Irony doesn't suit this thread.

(And for those wondering, see this thread: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=5291)
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: quadibloc on Wed, 09 September 2009, 09:56:55
Quote from: ch_123;116064
Using Ripster's and Max Lugar's logic, we should count all the different types of real, fake, complex and simple White Alps as completely different switches.


And what's wrong with doing that?
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 09 September 2009, 10:03:09
Quote from: ripster;116134
Yeah, that's what Welly wants to do.  What's wrong with that?


lol what i'd like is some logic and consistency to the categories - it wouldnt make sense to separate out F and M when they're so similar, and then clump together the alps which are much more different (Xm's vs fukka for instance) than F and M.  

so it just seems like the categories are being "engineered" to basically allow the blue cherries to win (by dividing and conquering alps and bs categories). And you know, the electioneers here wouldnt have any interest in that, now would they? :D  We need some UN monitors, is what we need :)
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 09 September 2009, 10:16:17
Quote from: ripster;116140
So can we vote for TWO keyboards now? I'm confused.

One for each hand, right?
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 09 September 2009, 10:34:46
Quote from: ripster;116140
So can we vote for TWO keyboards now?  I'm confused.

why not, if you have two favorites?

Quote

And do you have to own the keyboard to vote for it.

I think no, though i think it would make sense that you at least used it at some point
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Wed, 09 September 2009, 17:19:52
At the moment I'm torn between my two favorites. The Model F has a much more satisfying action, but my Compaq is a lot less fatiguing, and has improved my typing technique on my Model F.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 09 September 2009, 18:17:48
My favorite keyboard is the IBM Model M5-2 Trackball Keyboard. It was the best thing I ever found in the computer trash!
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Wed, 09 September 2009, 18:19:17
2 :: IBM Model F AT
2 :: Endurapro
2 :: HHKB 2
1 :: IBM Model M5-2
1 :: IBM Spacesaver
1 :: ABS M1 w/ White ALPS leafs and AEKII sliders
1 :: Realforce 86/7 U
1 :: Realforce 103UB
1 :: Datahands
1 :: DAS III
1 :: Raptor K-1
1 :: filco tenkeyless with black alps
1 :: Cherry G80-3000 with blues
1 :: Northgate Omnikey 102
1 :: Compaq MX 11800
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 09 September 2009, 18:28:11
My vote for the Dell Crappykey hasn't been counted! This is the most shamelessly biased thread since Ripster's switch poll!
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Wed, 09 September 2009, 19:03:01
2 :: IBM Model F AT
2 :: Endurapro
2 :: HHKB 2
2 :: IBM Spacesaver
1 :: IBM Model M5-2
1 :: ABS M1 w/ White ALPS leafs and AEKII sliders
1 :: Realforce 86/7 U
1 :: Realforce 103UB
1 :: Datahands
1 :: DAS III
1 :: Raptor K-1
1 :: filco tenkeyless with black alps
1 :: Cherry G80-3000 with blues
1 :: Northgate Omnikey 102
1 :: Compaq MX 11800
1 :: Dell Crappykey

No duplicate votes, Ripster.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: maxlugar on Wed, 09 September 2009, 20:20:01
Quote from: wellington1869;116137
lol what i'd like is some logic and consistency to the categories - it wouldnt make sense to separate out F and M when they're so similar, and then clump together the alps which are much more different (Xm's vs fukka for instance) than F and M.  



Yeah, I'm LOL right now!  It makes perfect sense to seperate the F (buckling springs over capacitive contacts) vs. the M (buckling springs over membrane) because the key action and typing feel are very different.  The difference between the F and the M is more pronounced than the difference between the different varieties of ALPS key switches.

The IBM PC AT 84-key "Model F" is my top pick, but my second favorite keyboard is the Northgate Omnikey 102 with genuine complicated clicky ALPS key switches.  The Model M is a fine keyboard but it is not even one of my top 3 picks.

Perhaps you have limited experience using a Model F keyboard.  If you ever have the opportunity to type on the F and the M side by side, I think you might tend to agree that they feel like completely different key switches.

We don't need UN monitors.  All we need is a few of those guys who watched over the recent election in Afghanistan to ensure there is no geekhack voter fraud taking place  :)
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: maxlugar on Wed, 09 September 2009, 20:23:46
Quote from: ripster;116354
I just want to make sure the Model F AT doesn't win.
.


With a little luck, your evil plot will be unsuccessful.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: quadibloc on Wed, 09 September 2009, 21:04:49
Quote from: ripster;116140
And do you have to own the keyboard to vote for it.


Then the Model M would win for sure, because lots more people, probably even in this group if you count lurkers, own those than own anything by Topre or Filco. But if you haven't tried the keyboard, or at least the keyswitch it uses, how can you vote for it?
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: rdjack21 on Wed, 09 September 2009, 22:02:23
I voted for what I have. How can it be your favourite keyboard if you are not using it. Your favourite keyboard really should be the one you are using or you need to get another one pronto.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: cmr on Thu, 10 September 2009, 12:36:40
at present my favorite keyboard is the TP2
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: quadibloc on Thu, 10 September 2009, 13:07:39
Quote from: rdjack21;116418
Your favourite keyboard really should be the one you are using or you need to get another one pronto.


I love my Model M. But until I have experience with Cherry Blue, I cannot tell other people, with confidence, that buckling springs really are better than Cherry Blue.

A keyboard - or another thing - can be better than merely adequate, it can be wonderful - and yet there might still exist one out there that's slightly better.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Thu, 10 September 2009, 14:20:04
2 :: IBM Model F AT
2 :: Endurapro
2 :: HHKB 2
2 :: IBM Spacesaver
1 :: IBM Model M5-2
1 :: ABS M1 w/ White ALPS leafs and AEKII sliders
1 :: Realforce 86/7 U
1 :: Realforce 103UB
1 :: Datahands
1 :: DAS III
1 :: Raptor K-1
1 :: filco tenkeyless with black alps
1 :: Cherry G80-3000 with blues
1 :: Northgate Omnikey 102
1 :: Compaq MX 11800
1 :: Dell Crappykey
1 :: Matias Tactile Pro 2[SIZE=-2]
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Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: spremino on Thu, 10 September 2009, 17:13:44
Quote from: quadibloc;116690
I love my Model M. But until I have experience with Cherry Blue, I cannot tell other people, with confidence, that buckling springs really are better than Cherry Blue.


Of course you couldn't. Especially when in the poll about switches, they scored about the same.

Indeed there should be a poll where people say what keyboards they have used, and which they consider the best.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Thu, 10 September 2009, 17:39:06
Quote from: spremino;116772
Of course you couldn't. Especially when in the poll about switches, they scored about the same.

Indeed there should be a poll where people say what keyboards they have used, and which they consider the best.

That's basically what this is...
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: InSanCen on Thu, 10 September 2009, 17:56:53
Overall, I think my model M wins it. I will probably go back to it, though I am loving my new toy, and the other half quite likes it too.

I am also going to have an M13 coming my way soon though.

I doubt it is *that* different to an M, but as has been said, until I try it, I can't truly know.

So until then, I am still abstaining from the vote.
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: shortround on Fri, 11 September 2009, 02:17:36
Some people are listing more than 1 keyboard.  Doesn't that take away from the meaning of "favorite?"
Title: What's your favorite keyboard?
Post by: timw4mail on Fri, 11 September 2009, 07:09:12
Quote from: shortround;116900
Some people are listing more than 1 keyboard.  Doesn't that take away from the meaning of "favorite?"

You can't have two favorite keyboards?