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Title: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 15 April 2018, 12:50:53
Dame you corrupt capitalist Government.. !!

This is tyranny,  They're stealing from us..

Slavery w/ xtra steps !!!




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Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: chyros on Sun, 15 April 2018, 13:52:33
>location: US


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: emenelopee on Sun, 15 April 2018, 14:57:49
Thems wars don'ts pays for themselves. If only you were taking in more unearned income, less taxy tax than actually working.
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: emenelopee on Sun, 15 April 2018, 15:02:26
PS if Amazon and the like don't pay any taxes, someone has to. God Bless any entity that has God Mode cheat codes, makin' America Great etc.
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 15 April 2018, 15:20:59
PS if Amazon and the like don't pay any taxes, someone has to. God Bless any entity that has God Mode cheat codes, makin' America Great etc.

I'm going to start smoking ...

2 packs a day.. here we go

I'm gonna do it... . 


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Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: chyros on Sun, 15 April 2018, 16:06:20
Sorry, I just can't take comments about high taxes or expensive petrol from Americans :p .
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: fanpeople on Sun, 15 April 2018, 19:05:41
Sorry, I just can't take comments about high taxes or expensive petrol from Americans :p .

VAT OF DEATH
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 15 April 2018, 19:07:22
http://fortune.com/2017/03/05/income-tax-audits-irs-agents/ (http://fortune.com/2017/03/05/income-tax-audits-irs-agents/)
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 15 April 2018, 19:07:42
Sorry, I just can't take comments about high taxes or expensive petrol from Americans :p .

VAT OF DEATH

are taxes high in english country ?


Also, I just did the math,  There's no way I could afford to smoke 2 packs a day..

NOT EVEN CLOSE..

WHY are cigarettes so xpensive.. wth happened...

Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: fanpeople on Sun, 15 April 2018, 19:26:59
Sorry, I just can't take comments about high taxes or expensive petrol from Americans :p .

VAT OF DEATH

are taxes high in english country ?


Also, I just did the math,  There's no way I could afford to smoke 2 packs a day..

NOT EVEN CLOSE..

WHY are cigarettes so xpensive.. wth happened...



How much are US cigs? Australia us up to like 30 AUD a pack if you get them at the tobacconist?
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: emenelopee on Sun, 15 April 2018, 19:56:59
US cigs are stupid cheap, except for NY. The most they get is $15/pack, most of the flyover country has them for around $5. CA is around $10, at least Bay Area. Half that further inland.

This article seems about right. http://fairreporters.net/health/prices-of-cigarettes-by-state/

RE: Taxes: In my experience, taxes are not much lower in the US vs. UK, but you get way less for your money as health insurance is excluded, so actually cost of living is higher/it's much harder to save. The Americans also spend waaay less on actual public services, roads, parks, schools, etc., and much more on war machines, "subsidies" for energy industries, and other enrichments of private entities.
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: fanpeople on Sun, 15 April 2018, 20:24:08
US cigs are stupid cheap, except for NY. The most they get is $15/pack, most of the flyover country has them for around $5. CA is around $10, at least Bay Area. Half that further inland.

This article seems about right. http://fairreporters.net/health/prices-of-cigarettes-by-state/

RE: Taxes: In my experience, taxes are not much lower in the US vs. UK, but you get way less for your money as health insurance is excluded, so actually cost of living is higher/it's much harder to save. The Americans also spend waaay less on actual public services, roads, parks, schools, etc., and much more on war machines, "subsidies" for energy industries, and other enrichments of private entities.

Thats pretty cheap, but i guess they get you with the medical bills when u get cancer.
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 15 April 2018, 20:31:30
US cigs are stupid cheap, except for NY. The most they get is $15/pack, most of the flyover country has them for around $5. CA is around $10, at least Bay Area. Half that further inland.

This article seems about right. http://fairreporters.net/health/prices-of-cigarettes-by-state/

RE: Taxes: In my experience, taxes are not much lower in the US vs. UK, but you get way less for your money as health insurance is excluded, so actually cost of living is higher/it's much harder to save. The Americans also spend waaay less on actual public services, roads, parks, schools, etc., and much more on war machines, "subsidies" for energy industries, and other enrichments of private entities.

Thats pretty cheap, but i guess they get you with the medical bills when u get cancer.


They use public land for grazing and resources to subsidize Meat-Farming.

Then you get the diabetes and heart disease and cancer and stroke and alzheimer and erectile dysfunction.


Then they get you with the Lipitor, Prozac, Viagra, Chemo, Donepezil, Alteplase, Statins
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 15 April 2018, 20:32:31
US cigs are stupid cheap, except for NY. The most they get is $15/pack, most of the flyover country has them for around $5. CA is around $10, at least Bay Area. Half that further inland.

This article seems about right. http://fairreporters.net/health/prices-of-cigarettes-by-state/

RE: Taxes: In my experience, taxes are not much lower in the US vs. UK, but you get way less for your money as health insurance is excluded, so actually cost of living is higher/it's much harder to save. The Americans also spend waaay less on actual public services, roads, parks, schools, etc., and much more on war machines, "subsidies" for energy industries, and other enrichments of private entities.

I just saw on utube, DIY cigarettes.. wow $1 a pack..

That's more like it..


Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: emenelopee on Sun, 15 April 2018, 21:06:10
DIY? You mean roll-ups?

PS: a quick heads-up: Cigarettes cause and/or cause complications with:


...the diabetes and heart disease and cancer and stroke and alzheimer and erectile dysfunction.

Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 15 April 2018, 21:10:12
DIY? You mean roll-ups?

PS: a quick heads-up: Cigarettes cause and/or cause complications with:


...the diabetes and heart disease and cancer and stroke and alzheimer and erectile dysfunction.



Yea, but my 100% Veggie will negate most of those effects.


For example,  In Tibet, they smoke this very hardcore tobacco, unfiltered..

Every member in those tribes have lung problems down the road.

HOWEVER,   miraculously no one has lung cancer..


The difference,  these guys eat almost no meat/ animal products..

Smoking influences lung cancer for sure..   But it would seem meat consumption is absolutely the catalyst..


Without fuel, a fire may spark but will not endure..
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: chyros on Mon, 16 April 2018, 10:19:48
Sorry, I just can't take comments about high taxes or expensive petrol from Americans :p .

VAT OF DEATH

are taxes high in english country ?


Also, I just did the math,  There's no way I could afford to smoke 2 packs a day..

NOT EVEN CLOSE..

WHY are cigarettes so xpensive.. wth happened...


Apart from maybe legacy taxes, US taxes on EVERYTHING are easily among the lowest of all first-world countries.

Income tax here is up to 52% as I recall. I earn a very middling wage and am taxed at around a third. Our fuel taxes are the highest in the world; a litre of petrol goes for €1.72 right now (that's $2.13 per litre or $8.06 per US gallon). Cigarettes are about €7.50 a pack or $9.28. VAT is at 21%. Import taxes start at $30, from what I understood it starts at $800 in the USA. Etc. etc. etc.

Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: Signature on Mon, 16 April 2018, 10:49:53
Dont get me started on taxes...  :))
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: emenelopee on Mon, 16 April 2018, 11:35:56
If you saw the extent of poverty in much of the US, you would gain a better acceptance of taxation, at least fair taxation. It's supposed to be, at least in part, an equalizer to control for blind luck in your born-into circumstances. Instead it's a tool to concentrate and increase the rate of wealth extraction by those who are already in a cushy position at the top.

Quote
My visit coincides with a dramatic change of direction in US policies relating to inequality and extreme poverty. The proposed tax reform package stakes out America’s bid to become the most unequal society in the world, and will greatly increase the already high levels of wealth and income inequality between the richest 1% and the poorest 50% of Americans. The dramatic cuts in welfare, foreshadowed by Donald Trump and speaker Ryan, and already beginning to be implemented by the administration, will essentially shred crucial dimensions of a safety net that is already full of holes. It is against this background that my report is presented.

The United States is one of the world’s richest and most powerful and technologically innovative countries; but neither its wealth nor its power nor its technology is being harnessed to address the situation in which 40 million people continue to live in poverty.

...

American exceptionalism was a constant theme in my conversations. But instead of realizing its founders’ admirable commitments, today’s United States has proved itself to be exceptional in far more problematic ways that are shockingly at odds with its immense wealth and its founding commitment to human rights. As a result, contrasts between private wealth and public squalor abound.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/15/extreme-poverty-america-un-special-monitor-report
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 16 April 2018, 11:55:30

Apart from maybe legacy taxes, US taxes on EVERYTHING are easily among the lowest of all first-world countries.


Most egregious, the Republican Dream would remove taxes altogether from capital gains, Wall Street trading, and inheritance, the 3 areas that should be taxed at the highest rates, not the lowest.
 
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 16 April 2018, 13:14:21

Apart from maybe legacy taxes, US taxes on EVERYTHING are easily among the lowest of all first-world countries.


Most egregious, the Republican Dream would remove taxes altogether from capital gains, Wall Street trading, and inheritance, the 3 areas that should be taxed at the highest rates, not the lowest.
 

That is silly ..

Why even HAVE CAPITALISM, if you're going to cut it up in an ineffective convoluted way..

Let the Rich , Be Rich..   That's fine..


As long as everyone eats 100% veggies.. 
The world will run Perfectly !!


Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: clasicks on Mon, 16 April 2018, 13:23:08
veggies for president 2020
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 16 April 2018, 14:20:11
veggies for president 2020

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Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 16 April 2018, 14:38:16
literally took me 24 mins to do taxes this year, easiest year ever :))
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 16 April 2018, 15:22:47
literally took me 24 mins to do taxes this year, easiest year ever :))

We really need a Skyler from Breaking Bad on Gekhak..

To clean up our keeb-slush-funds..

Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: JP on Mon, 16 April 2018, 15:32:52
literally took me 24 mins to do taxes this year, easiest year ever :))

Not fair. I have two states, federal, and local taxes.
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 16 April 2018, 16:24:29
literally took me 24 mins to do taxes this year, easiest year ever :))

Not fair. I have two states, federal, and local taxes.

If only your brothel visits were tax deductible, you'd get all dat refund.. !!
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: JP on Mon, 16 April 2018, 17:00:55
literally took me 24 mins to do taxes this year, easiest year ever :))

Not fair. I have two states, federal, and local taxes.

If only your brothel visits were tax deductible, you'd get all dat refund.. !!

Quiet you :rolleyes:
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 16 April 2018, 17:33:54

If only your brothel visits were tax deductible,


At least some of the various governments are starting to realize some tax rewards from weed.
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: chyros on Mon, 16 April 2018, 17:39:56

If only your brothel visits were tax deductible,


At least some of the various governments are starting to realize some tax rewards from weed.
Excellent. Legalise it, control it, tax it.
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 16 April 2018, 17:42:06

If only your brothel visits were tax deductible,


At least some of the various governments are starting to realize some tax rewards from weed.

Weed, similar to tobacco ensures that a segment of users will be low/lower income.

This will continuously provide a source of labor for non-attractive occupations..


For example , food service,  it's a tough and harsh job , and it's not too strict on drug testing.



So broadly, people who do drugs, inhibit their minds in certain ways, will be shackled to these forms of labor.


This is necessary for a capitalist society, because of ever rising wage and inflation.




Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 16 April 2018, 17:52:46

If only your brothel visits were tax deductible,


At least some of the various governments are starting to realize some tax rewards from weed.
Excellent. Legalise it, control it, tax it.


Marijuana should not be taxed..

Over the long term, people who do not do marijuana will certainly out-compete those who do.


Taxing it would just slow this process of realization..


Let smokers run fast and burn out..


Insulate young people,   let learned adults do whatever they want..



The tax is not critical,  the government simply prints money and sell rifles.. There is no reason for a special tax.



Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 17 April 2018, 09:16:14
I'm not sure how the UK works, but we also have state tax in addition to federal taxes. I earn within the top 25% of the US and I am taxed at about 31%. This means I earn much less than my actual salary implies. What's hilarious about US greed/corruption is that those who make over $500,000/year just had their taxes cut by 2%! Yet it barely changes at all for the lower earners (i.e. the people who actually need tax cuts).
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: emenelopee on Tue, 17 April 2018, 12:04:38
Have you tried "contributing" to your "representative"'s "campaign"? It's pretty much an auction, and a surprisingly cheap one at that.

Example: Top NRA "contribution" is $9.9k, and about 85% of the rest are below $2k.

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?cycle=2018&id=D000000082

It doesn't take much to go against the position of 97% of Americans.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/374692-poll-97-percent-support-background-checks-for-all-gun-buyers
Title: Re: So Much Tax, KILL Meee...
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 17 April 2018, 16:11:10

It's pretty much an auction, and a surprisingly cheap one at that.


The best article that I have read on the subject:

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf (https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf)