Author Topic: [IC] GMK sets interest check and planning (Read 259402 times)

Dianoda · « **Reply #500 on:** Fri, 08 February 2013, 22:11:55 »

I started making some mockups for the current poll options using the cherry replica legends lysol made/shared a few months ago. Still a work in progress (obviously, I'm missing arrows and some of the other legend graphics, and the character alignments could be better), but for now here's what each option might look like in 104 ANSI:

Elrick · « **Reply #501 on:** Fri, 08 February 2013, 22:40:20 »

I don't care what colours are finally selected (voted for the triumph Green on Grey), I will buy any colour that's made.

If they can guarantee quality and decent finish on the key-caps then I'm all in. Nice to see another manufacturer stepping in to feed us greedy key-nappers.

Matt3o · « **Reply #502 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 01:34:49 »

aaah that windows key hurts!

Sai · « **Reply #503 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 01:39:27 »

i don't like that window keys.

Dianoda · « **Reply #504 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 01:55:18 »

Quote from: Matt3o on Sat, 09 February 2013, 01:34:49

aaah that windows key hurts!

lol... your pain is certainly understandable (although personally I kinda like the win8 logo). Anywho, the windows 8 style logo was already there for me to use in lysol's set so that's what I went with. Find me something more you like better (and maybe some arrows and the other missing graphics while you're at it) and I'll see if I can get around to posting updated mockups.

Matt3o · « **Reply #505 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 02:51:53 »

Quote from: Dianoda on Sat, 09 February 2013, 01:55:18

Quote from: Matt3o on Sat, 09 February 2013, 01:34:49
aaah that windows key hurts!

lol... your pain is certainly understandable (although personally I kinda like the win8 logo). Anywho, the windows 8 style logo was already there for me to use in lysol's set so that's what I went with. Find me something more you like better (and maybe some arrows and the other missing graphics while you're at it) and I'll see if I can get around to posting updated mockups.

just kidding, thanks for putting together the previews, I appreciate your efforts!

I'm of the old school, to me the winkey should be either the diamond symbol or just "super"

Dianoda · « **Reply #506 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 04:29:02 »

Diamonds, eh? Sure, why not? I whipped up some graphics for the rest of the previously blank keys, too (edit: except I forgot about the arrow for backspace. there's always one). Edit: I remade each combination, I think the colors are a bit more accurate this time around (although I'm much less familiar with TA Green, it possibly should have more blue in it, idk):

Matt3o · « **Reply #507 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 04:31:15 »

much better!

Lighthouse1 · « **Reply #508 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 09:13:34 »

Knowing that a GB here would cater for 'minorities' (e.g. those of us with an ISO thing going on) are there views as to whether vendors intend to do the same?

At present it seems we know where we stand with a group buy (I am in my first one here, the whole idea seems really great to me).

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #509 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 10:44:36 »

I don't see many ISO choice likely to be offered by US based vendors. Maybe US ISO or GB as it has the less different key, but I doubt there would be much other choice if at all.
GMK have the XP style winkey, not 8 unless we go pad print for them so no need to care about that. Also will have blanks for those that do not like Windows key, don't use Windows.

Acanthophis · « **Reply #510 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 11:43:53 »

I personally strongly dislike the Skidata/Dolch Mashup. The Contrast of the lighter grey with orange is just horrible on my screen.
I don't know if this mockup remotely shows what it will look like, but...
Another mockup done by Broadmonkey at DT show the same eye-hurting low contrast of your so called "DolchSki".

Either go with Skidata or Dolch (or sack them and go TA). If you want something more original and unique, do something entirely new. Picking two existing sets and just mash it up doesn't seem to be original nor unique to me, to be honest. It rather shows the lack of ideas...

Those are new fresh ideas (besides the last one, this combo was also done by Cherry) Link to DT
More in his imgur album: http://imgur.com/a/7JSYs#0

Jmneuv · « **Reply #511 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 12:09:45 »

I think all of those mockups are highly deceiving. I cast my vote for dolchski based on some actual caps that had the skidata orange on a lighter grey and found it perfect. (havent saved the pic, i'm afraid).
I always thought skidata's charcoal was too near to black. The contrast should be just as good on a dolch grey as on the original.

keymaster · « **Reply #512 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 12:14:27 »

Quote from: Jmneuv on Sat, 09 February 2013, 12:09:45

I think all of those mockups are highly deceiving. I cast my vote for dolski based on some actual caps that had the skidata orange on a lighter grey and found it perfect. (havent saved the pic, i'm afraid).
I always thought skidata's charcoal was too near to black. The contrast should be just as good on a dolch grey as on the original.

I think you're on to something. I voted for Dolch and think its the safest choice.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #513 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 12:21:38 »

Sure there is a lot of other nice ideas, and stuff I would rather do, but I fear many of them wouldn't reach the target quantity. Many of them might be a little too loud for many, like Miami.
No matter what is picked there is going to be some that don't like the option. It's just a matter of getting something selected that can reach the target. Maybe in the future we can get GMK to be more flexible and offer smaller orders and will be able to do more adventurous colorways, but right now that is not happening.

Acanthophis · « **Reply #514 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 12:36:17 »

Well, I'm out on "DolchSki".
I would rather buy Skidata over it, although I don't like Skidata, too.
The orange kills it too much for me. Also, it resembles the geekhack colours too much (and those are, colour-combination wise, awful, imo).

keymaster · « **Reply #515 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 12:41:20 »

By the way, what is the current status of the vote? Who is winning?

Atakp · « **Reply #516 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 12:44:29 »

Quote from: keymaster on Sat, 09 February 2013, 12:41:20

By the way, what is the current status of the vote? Who is winning?

Original dolch is ahead by one vote...link to the results is at the bottom of the op

Jmneuv · « **Reply #517 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 12:46:19 »

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35642.0
there's the set i was referring to, i think that's about dolchski (the center part);

keymaster · « **Reply #518 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 12:49:01 »

Quote from: Jmneuv on Sat, 09 February 2013, 12:46:19

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35642.0
there's the set i was referring to, i think that's about dolski (the lighter grey part);

I think you're right about the light gray + orange font would not working very well.

Jmneuv · « **Reply #519 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 12:51:33 »

hm? i think leesofi's set is awesome as is contrast;
(let me check on my pure srgb ff-profile)
(edit: still awesome)

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #520 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 13:48:06 »

That's just SKIDATA with a really bright flash or something the lighter grey key in that picture are from Dolch for comparision. I voted for TA myself, so no one can blame me.

Jmneuv · « **Reply #521 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 13:54:43 »

Doh, but i still think it's close to what Dolski should look like, no?

Do you have the SP color codes for skidata and dolch?

jdcarpe · « **Reply #522 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 14:10:33 »

Skidata would be OAS on GX. Dolch is WA on GE/GX.

Denonic · « **Reply #523 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 15:07:09 »

Any chance of a separate del, end & pg dn set in the correct profile for current dolch owners? A spacebar would also be nice separate if possible.

Alessandro · « **Reply #524 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 15:15:03 »

I still want the windows 3.1 logo in other colour sets. How can we miss this chance!?

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #525 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 16:00:10 »

They only have the XP style Windows logo in doubleshot, and only on 1.25 key. Anything else would have to be pad print.

Might break the nav keys out of the main set and put them in the modifiers pack instead if it makes more sense, which I suppose it would since they are the same color on most 2tone style colorways.

Alessandro · « **Reply #526 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 16:02:23 »

Darn, I guess they don't have 'all' the tooling.

MarkPharaoh · « **Reply #527 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 16:06:02 »

Sigh...how is Dolch winning? Have had enough of those GBs in the past, how many more do we need, people?

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #528 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 16:16:59 »

All those were fake ones though...

Cherry never made a doubleshot Windows key. So actually GMK has added some of thier own.

Halverson · « **Reply #529 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 16:19:16 »

Quote from: MarkPharaoh on Sat, 09 February 2013, 16:06:02

Sigh...how is Dolch winning? Have had enough of those GBs in the past, how many more do we need, people?

Just one REAL dolch I suppose!

Go TA! We need more 'green' in all our lives!

Alessandro · « **Reply #530 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 16:35:52 »

Quote from: lysol on Sat, 09 February 2013, 16:16:59

All those were fake ones though...
Cherry never made a doubleshot Windows key. So actually GMK has added some of thier own.

Dayum, I did not know that!

Acetrak · « **Reply #531 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 17:17:15 »

Yup, Sherry's sets have doubleshot windows though

Jmneuv · « **Reply #532 on:** Sun, 10 February 2013, 18:16:14 »

Okay: that's DolSki then, right?

Caaaarrrt · « **Reply #533 on:** Sun, 10 February 2013, 18:21:22 »

Dolch grey is darker than that grey in those GH keys

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #534 on:** Sun, 10 February 2013, 19:04:53 »

The plastic colors will be a bit different but that would be the basic look of it.

Elrick · « **Reply #535 on:** Sun, 10 February 2013, 19:54:40 »

Quote from: lysol on Sun, 10 February 2013, 19:04:53

The plastic colors will be a bit different but that would be the basic look of it.

Yes, that Orange and Grey colour is quite nice. Easy to read yet not overpowering. Please arrange a GB to buy these colours lysol.

Jmneuv · « **Reply #536 on:** Mon, 11 February 2013, 06:09:09 »

..then vote the DolSki mashup

that's what we're going on about

Viz · « **Reply #537 on:** Mon, 11 February 2013, 14:47:18 »

Hello, and bump. may i vote for the dolski?

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #538 on:** Mon, 11 February 2013, 15:51:50 »

No, you can only vote for TA now... j/k vote as you wish.

vorn · « **Reply #539 on:** Tue, 12 February 2013, 07:23:43 »

Full thread read. Voted. Definitely interested in an ISO Dolch set for my impending GH60!!

FabsSpeed · « **Reply #540 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 00:37:58 »

I want a Dolch set!

vorn · « **Reply #541 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 06:17:26 »

Besides the voting to decide which is most popular, what is the target quantity to make this happen? Is there a minimum quantity, or will more people simply mean cheaper prices?

Acetrak · « **Reply #542 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 06:36:25 »

MOQ of 400

Turbo Slaab · « **Reply #543 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 07:15:21 »

400 sets?

GeorgeK · « **Reply #544 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 07:20:12 »

Across all the forums that should be possible unless the split is very even and people only want what they vote for... But 400 is still a hellovalot...

fruktstund · « **Reply #545 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 07:27:17 »

If everybody buys three sets each it'll be easypeasy. :>

Acetrak · « **Reply #546 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 07:28:16 »

Yeah I think 400 is the estimated number lysol/dan got from the GMK rep. I think the tricky thing will be to make sets available for as many layouts possible so we can reach the high MOQ, hence why lysol's proposed sets have so many keys in them.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #547 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 10:34:18 »

Exactly. Prime goal is to get as many physical and language layout include as possible for broadest appeal without costing a fortune.

First round of voting had almsot 300 vote, and with some likely to buy more than one set we could be pretty close already. I don't think MOQ is as high to be impossible clearly.

inlikeflynn · « **Reply #548 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 10:42:41 »

why u change your name?

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baldgye · « **Reply #549 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 12:58:45 »

oh, now it makes perfect sense...

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