BTW IIRC this is the actual Pingsaver; it's basically the Alps version of the Kishsaver:I don't know when that board was branded but JDcarpe called it the pingsaver back in 2014 https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62628.msg1468025#msg1468025 I called them pingmaster in early 2014, but the name never stuck :( The important part is that most of these alps-made tee mount KBs all use the same plate, and that plate makes the noise. I noticed a similar thing when HaaTa visited me with his box of NIB alps keyboards for his kiibohd project in 2012 or 2013 sometime, but we didn't know that this would be a common theme amongst these keyboards and the pingsaver name didn't come out yet. I wonder why the Apple M0110 isn't like this. My guess is that it's too short.Show Image(https://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/0/00/Alps_AKB-3420_-_complete.jpg/800px-Alps_AKB-3420_-_complete.jpg)
I don't know when that board was branded but JDcarpe called it the pingsaver back in 2014 https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62628.msg1468025#msg1468025 I called them pingmaster in early 2014, but the name never stuck :(The thing is, pingsaver is a **** name for this board because it doesn't save anything, and pingmaster is a great name :p . We might need a retcon here :p .
Dang it! Now I wish I had bought three. One for the Wall o' Keyboards plus two to slice for expansion for the GH-120, including the leftmost two columns.
Nice job, DV.
- Ron | samwisekoi
I don't know when that board was branded but JDcarpe called it the pingsaver back in 2014 https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62628.msg1468025#msg1468025 I called them pingmaster in early 2014, but the name never stuck :(The thing is, pingsaver is a **** name for this board because it doesn't save anything, and pingmaster is a great name :p . We might need a retcon here :p .
Show Image(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5578/22791889688_8fa07d976d_o.jpg)
This picture is actually taken right after I finished the case, so it's not even working in the photo :p
This ping has been preserved in this iteration which is good 'cause I love it.
I called them pingmaster in early 2014, but the name never stuck :(
The thing is, pingsaver is a **** name for this board because it doesn't save anything, and pingmaster is a great name :p .
BTW IIRC this is the actual Pingsaver; it's basically the Alps version of the Kishsaver:Show Image(https://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/0/00/Alps_AKB-3420_-_complete.jpg/800px-Alps_AKB-3420_-_complete.jpg)
I meant the fullsize one, actually. Pingsaver is fine for this cut-down version, because it actually saves something xD .The thing is, pingsaver is a **** name for this board because it doesn't save anything, and pingmaster is a great name :p .
How about Pingmaster Mini then?
Ha, that keyboard is quite high on some people's lists xD . I agree though, centred lettering just has something really nice and retro about it :D .BTW IIRC this is the actual Pingsaver; it's basically the Alps version of the Kishsaver:Show Image(https://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/0/00/Alps_AKB-3420_-_complete.jpg/800px-Alps_AKB-3420_-_complete.jpg)
Why aren't more double-shots made this way? I've always assumed that smaller, off-centre legends became the norm so they wouldn't wear off of pad-printed keys as quickly. Obviously that's not necessary with DS, and it looks so much cooler—but all the centred, big-legend DS keysets that appear these days are quite expensive and limited-edition. :?(
BTW IIRC this is the actual Pingsaver; it's basically the Alps version of the Kishsaver:Show Image(https://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/0/00/Alps_AKB-3420_-_complete.jpg/800px-Alps_AKB-3420_-_complete.jpg)
beautiful keyboard and great pics, but I wasn't expecting the pics to hit my internet that hard! Took me about 10 minutes to load the whole page, on 5 down!Yeah I got a little carried away and posted the full resolution. This thread has 17 full resolution photos which are certainly a few MB each.
They were a lot more common on older boards. The old ALPS tee mount standard caps are centered like this, and I think they made one of the TRS80 boards. Other notable examples are first gen fujtisu leafs, pretty much all microswitch, and a bunch of keytronic boards. I'm a fan for sure. I just noticed that most of my doubleshots are centered. retro DSA, solarized, nuclear data, and the R5 Honeywell all are
Why aren't more double-shots made this way? I've always assumed that smaller, off-centre legends became the norm so they wouldn't wear off of pad-printed keys as quickly. Obviously that's not necessary with DS, and it looks so much cooler—but all the centred, big-legend DS keysets that appear these days are quite expensive and limited-edition. :?(
Dork, any practical way to show us how you mapped this? There are so many possibilities.
Wow. Such a nice mod. I'm always bummed when I see these, since they are so heavy, which makes shipping them over crazy expensive.
I can't say that I understand much of the wiring after one read through the post, but if I wrap my head around it, it might actually come with my AKB-3420 (https://deskthority.net/post336342.html#p336342).
If you want, I was able to find all the bits I cut out of mine. I'm not sure if it'll help you or not, but they are available.
Ron, did you take it apart? I think everything about these keyboards is really over the top. Even the D Backshell connector is rebuildable. I've only seen nicer ones in mil-spec eqpt.
I don't have topre hipro, but I will compare with SP spherical and also hall effect, which are similar.
To me, these are slightly tactile, I've never found them to be linear. At first I bought two, one to mod and one to keep, but I sold one after installing a converter, and then modded the other. I feel like buying a third to keep stock or at least controller modded (soarer / teensy) but I really can't justify it.
@ron, the keycaps are alps "tee" mount, and aren't compatible with anything else. "normal" alps (z axis or whatever) is different.
Correct, all SKCC, SKCL and SKCM switches have this. It's caused by the slider clearing the switchplate. It's subtle, but noticeable enough that the "feel" is not like that of other linear switches.I don't have topre hipro, but I will compare with SP spherical and also hall effect, which are similar.
To me, these are slightly tactile, I've never found them to be linear. At first I bought two, one to mod and one to keep, but I sold one after installing a converter, and then modded the other. I feel like buying a third to keep stock or at least controller modded (soarer / teensy) but I really can't justify it.
@ron, the keycaps are alps "tee" mount, and aren't compatible with anything else. "normal" alps (z axis or whatever) is different.
Yes, if I press slowly, I can feel something that can be described at non-linear/slightly tactile. However compared to even MX Browns, it is very subtle. Even with this being the case, these switches are nice, and the key caps are nice too!
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