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Custom Korean A.87
« on: Tue, 29 January 2013, 17:42:32 »
So I recently bought a Korean A.87 PCB from DanGWanG, and although it may not be an easy project to get going, I've decided to give it a go.

I have the diodes and stabilizers, switches are on the way, but I'm already at a road block  :p

I'm trying to figure out a way to get diodes into my Korean A.87 PCB, except when the diode is in(either going through top or bottom) the switch cannot fit comfortably onto the PCB..

Alaric told me I could get In-Switch Diodes, but I don't really want to do this because it would be hard to switch switch types later on.

Is there any other way to do this? Maybe I'm missing something plainly obvious :/

Any help is appreciated!

PICS:http://imgur.com/iTRnQg1,2O7fw3D,2chWwng
« Last Edit: Tue, 29 January 2013, 21:58:00 by Gupgup »

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 29 January 2013, 17:47:54 »
are you plate mounting? if not it won't be hard to mod the switches later. i don't know if that PCB has 'external' diode holes, or potentially SMD pads, but if not you will need the in-switch diodes.

actually now that i think about it you MIGHT be able to just solder SMDs to the diode holes... i want to say it was litster who posted a video on how to do it. it looks really hard :(
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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 29 January 2013, 17:50:32 »
Pictures of the PCB may help. We need to know exactly what we are working with here. :)

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 29 January 2013, 17:51:12 »
Post a pic close up of where one switch needs to be soldered of both sides so i can get an idea of what your dealing with.

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 29 January 2013, 17:53:10 »
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1.3-6092864546.2.ZfysC3&id=17027924016

it looks like you're probably going to need in-switch diodes or to use SMDs on the underside.
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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 29 January 2013, 17:55:18 »
That is the A.87? I thought I always called it the AiKB. Huh.

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 29 January 2013, 17:59:44 »
You can solder through-hole diodes without actually putting the leads through the hole. Just solder it on the surface pad. It takes a little more control, but doable.

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Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 29 January 2013, 18:10:19 »
Thanks for the quick responses! Unfortunately I won't be able to post a pic until later tonight, sorry I should have thought about it!

I ordered a ANSI 125 plate just to see if it would work with this PCB, if not I can use it for my storm.

Will update thread tonight with pictures!

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 29 January 2013, 19:05:34 »
The pcb is winkeyless so an ansi125 plate wont work
« Last Edit: Tue, 29 January 2013, 19:07:37 by DanGWanG »

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 29 January 2013, 21:11:54 »
That's deceiving considering the PCB has an 87 in the name. Oh well I suppose. :)

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 29 January 2013, 21:39:46 »
I had my suspicions, what plate would work dan?

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 29 January 2013, 21:58:12 »
Pictures are up in OP!

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 29 January 2013, 22:04:01 »
That's deceiving considering the PCB has an 87 in the name. Oh well I suppose. :)

Exactly my thought process :D

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 29 January 2013, 22:32:49 »
You'd need an ANSI 150 plate.

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Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 29 January 2013, 22:36:04 »
You'd need an ANSI 150 plate.

And you are 100% sure? :)

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 29 January 2013, 22:43:52 »
I believe so, wait for Dan if you don't trust me.
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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 30 January 2013, 05:13:43 »
Base on the pic, the pcb is design with DW(switches with diode) switches in mind except for 3 keys having LEDs. Its probably easier for you to place those through hole diodes into the switches. Its still possible to transplant other switch type stems and springs after soldering switches on.
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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 30 January 2013, 05:20:25 »
Btw, winkeyless is case-dependent (not PCB), assuming the PCB has 1.5x modifiers. If you have a PCB that has modifiers in configurations 1.5x - 1x - 1.5x , then you still have a choice of going winkey or winkeyless.

Anyways Gupgup, the pic you sent me in PM has 1.5x - 1x - 1.5x modifiers, so you'll need the ANS150 plate to fit.

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 30 January 2013, 06:31:13 »
I have a spare ANSI150 plate for a phantom that _should_ work with that PCB, if anyone can confirm, I can hook you up :)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ccyxk8t9gxso9ec/2013-01-30%2006.28.55.jpg

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 30 January 2013, 07:02:28 »
That would be awesome K!

Ill PM you!

And WFD you can make my order just one ANSI150 now please :)

Thanks for help guys!

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Re: Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 30 January 2013, 07:22:11 »
I have a spare ANSI150 plate for a phantom that _should_ work with that PCB, if anyone can confirm, I can hook you up :)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ccyxk8t9gxso9ec/2013-01-30%2006.28.55.jpg

Don't think it would work since the function row is higher then the a87 PCB
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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 30 January 2013, 16:59:33 »
KMiller measured the Plate for the ANSI150, space from number row to F row = 28mm

When I measured the same space on the PCB it was roughly 25mm..

Not sure what to do :/

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 30 January 2013, 17:19:33 »
Can you PCB mount it?

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 30 January 2013, 17:23:56 »
You may want to measure again, 3mm is not a very large difference.

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« Reply #24 on: Wed, 30 January 2013, 17:23:59 »
The diodes and switches kind of make it so the switch can't lay flat, so with the normal diodes no I can't.

But with SMDs the prof tells me it can be done, except I don't really understand what an SMD does..

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« Reply #25 on: Wed, 30 January 2013, 17:25:33 »
You may want to measure again, 3mm is not a very large difference.

I don't really have a specific measuring device I can use, but I'll try it again!

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 30 January 2013, 17:28:54 »
SMD is surface mount components.

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #27 on: Wed, 30 January 2013, 17:30:32 »
yo ushould be able to PCb mount everything and smd diodes would go on the back of the board

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 30 January 2013, 17:32:06 »
It appears I was off my first measurement, it looks almost perfect!

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 30 January 2013, 17:38:32 »
yo ushould be able to PCb mount everything and smd diodes would go on the back of the board

Would this still need to be done even with a plate?

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 30 January 2013, 17:44:55 »
yo ushould be able to PCb mount everything and smd diodes would go on the back of the board

Would this still need to be done even with a plate?
would what need to be done if you use a plate?

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 30 January 2013, 17:50:45 »
yo ushould be able to PCb mount everything and smd diodes would go on the back of the board

Would this still need to be done even with a plate?
would what need to be done if you use a plate?

SMD's, I assume it would still be needed, but maybe the plate makes a difference with the switch and diode, IDK honestly haha

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 30 January 2013, 17:56:41 »
Pictures Sorry, I needed that for when I'm on my tablet. Glad it's about the right fit, you may have to hit up Kmiller8 for his plate. :)

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Re: Custom Korean A.87
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 30 January 2013, 18:00:24 »
yo ucould do in switch diodes, SMD or do through hole on the backside but cut flush on the top

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« Reply #34 on: Wed, 30 January 2013, 18:07:31 »
Which would be easiest, and where do I get, and I'll decide right now!